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Let us hear a few words from our fellow British comrade, Thomas Scripps, on Corbyn's new party:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/08/03/duqf-a03.html

Corbyn and Sultana’s new party—In their own words

<Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana have given their first interviews on the new party they announced last week. They make clear that the organisation, with the placeholder name “Your Party”, will offer the working class no change from the political spinelessness displayed by Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party…

☝️🤓 first!

>>2416824
>The Socialist Equality Party rejects the idea that the left-wing, anti-war aspirations of millions of workers and young people can be advanced through these forces: the semi-reformist dregs of a prolonged period of political reaction. What is required is a revolutionary party built on the principles of uncompromising class struggle and socialist internationalism.
🔥🔥🔥

>>2416824
based , even the trots of the WSWS see this for the sham it is

>>2416291
religious rights trump animal rights, apparently:
>Legislation requires that animals must be stunned prior to slaughter so that they are unconscious and insensible to pain. The only exception to the requirement to stun is where animals are slaughtered in accordance with religious rites. The Government would prefer animals to be stunned before slaughter but respects the rights of Jews and Muslims to eat meat prepared in accordance with their beliefs.
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2025-01-14/23993

Keir Starmer should join Corbyn's party

>>2416917
>Keir Starmer
Literally who? some student politics type?

>>2416862
Kosher / Halal slaughter practices should be made illegal.

>>2417039
would be nice, wouldnt it?

More Palestinians have been killed in Gaza over the past 21 months than Jews were killed in the WWII Holocaust.

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>>2416862
Rules for me, not for thee.

>>2416862
An argument I've made for a long time, and never had a satisfactory answer, is, why is religion protected to begin with? Why is Islamophobia or Antisemitism or Christianophobia bad when they are just fucking ideologies?
Honestly, what the fuck is the difference between someone shitting on Islam being a "bigot" and politicians ane media spouting dogshit and bigotry about Communism? Why is one a protected category and one isn't? Communist values mean a lot to me, it's annoying as fuck and often even midly offensive the shit people say about us, so why in fuck isn't "Communism" also a protected class?

>>2417639
Politicians shit on Islam and Christianity all the time. Islam gets attacked from the right and Christianity from the left. However there is one other religion and people of which nobody is allowed to insult.

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>>2416824
Trots being wreckers. Nothing new. Corbyn maybe a labourite, but his following and movement can potentially open political opportunities for socialists. And Corbyn certainly offers much more than trot sects, who only have political dogma, and nothing much else.

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>>2417646
Dude I know this, I literally got banned from r/atheism for simply INCLUDING Judaism in my criticism of Christianity and Islam. My ban message was "Antisemitic nazi".
But my point still largely stands, why in fuck is religion protected to begin with. Judaism, Christianity and Islam, literally all were founded as political movements, so if I say "Actually Communism is the mandate of heaven" does that make it a religion and a hate crime to oppose?

>>2417639
religion is a civic ideology while communism is a political ideology. im sure fascists feel "offended" that theyre disrespected also, but its immaterial to social concerns.

>>2417659
While I agree, there really shouldn't be that real distinction at all, also in the USSR, Communism was the "civic religion" in the US, Liberalism is the "civic religion" with temples and everything all over DC.
My argument is that religion should not be considered a protected characteristic at all. That it should be completely open to criticize in every other way but actual violence. "Antisemitic" has really no meaning, nor does "islamophobic", they are no different from "Anti-Fascist" or "Anti-Communist".
This has always been the point I wanted to debate with one of these "Antisemitism" harpies or even shitlibs "Umm criticizing Muslims being misogynistic is Islamophobia", as a Communist, why should I give a shit? They hate my ideology, why should I give a shit about shitting all over theirs?

>>2417662
the issue is that when we consider politics to be a religious affair, then we create de facto theocracies, which prohibit criticism. now, you might say that this is already the case in some capacity, but i do think that in liberalism we are at least allowed to hold pluralistic views due to a separation of powers. if the communist church and the communist state are combined however, then all heretics are burned at the stake. personally, im not someone who is comfortable with presupposing my own correctness, but believe in mediated opposition.

>>2417639
if you have an irrational belief in communism, it's possible it would be protected by the equality act (but probably not, because the loophole would be "communism killed 11 gazillion and therefore is not worthy of respect in a democratic society"), that's the trick TERFs used. it has to be irrational though because the EA2010 is dogshit. (a belief that changes when the evidence does gets zero protection)

Why are the leaders of the british radical right (Reform and Advance UK) both Pakistani??

>>2416862
a belief is not a right

>>2417682
controlled opposition

>>2417682

The founder of Advance UK went to a private school, Cambridge, went straight into finance as an analyst for Lehman Brothers, entered the property business
When he went into politics, he was a candidate for the brexit party, was elected and was the wealthiest MEP at the time.
They want an anti-immigration party because they see the current level of immigration as destabilising. Still, they don't want to cede it to an actual, full-on racialist party, so, in a way, I guess it is a controlled operation of sorts, and at the same time, they can make money off retards as a grift and defend certain business interests they have.

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>>2417700
>racialist party
the only racialism i see is how british political leadership is becoming entirely BAME.
we have kami badenoch for the tories
ben habib for advance uk
zia yusuf for for reform
zarah sultana for JCP
mothin ali for the greens (shortly to be)
humza yousaf for the SNP (formerly)
the only white party left is labour, led by SStarmer

"fell for it again award" ceremony incoming?

>>2417718
why do you come here? seriously nothing better to do?

>>2417724
why do you sagepost? seriously nothing better to do?

Kami Badenoch will lead the Anglo-Saxon to victory

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>>2417727
she is the reincarnation of queen guinevere
sultana is the reincarnation of gaelic brigid

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>>2417700
>Still, they don't want to cede it to an actual, full-on racialist party
<implying
These are the real racialists.

Can anyone else just not get their head around nationalism in this country? It always just seems completely alien, expressions of it in public life vaguely repulsive.
Can't we just do something else instead this is going to get so farcical.

>>2417639
Business idea: Let's declare communism a religion.

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Can anyone tell me what's the deal with Corbyn? I always see someone attacking him or trying to blackmail the guy.

>>2416862
>article about brits dismembering cats for clout
>yeah but what about moslemz
okay

>>2416862
>>2417039

Halal food animal rights shit is the most stupid right wing talking point, it is frustratingly annoying. Like come the fuck on you do not care about animal right. Actually makes me seethe. I hope you are halal slaughtered.

>>2418524
Wrong. We're doing what about chinamen actually.

Met someone I used to go to school with earlier (I'm late 20s), we weren't best friends but we used to play video games together and "shoot the shit" as the Americans say.
Anyways we get to talking about religion and politics and he tells me he identifies as a Democratic Socialist / left of Labour, but also that he identifies as a Norse Pagan.
Honestly I'm uncertain of what to make of it tbh… Anyone else feel Paganism gives them "the ick" as the women say?
I get the impression it tends to be full of Nazis and White Supremacists and use lots of symbols that are also used by Nazis.
Why does someone with otherwise tolerable views have to be such a LARPer smh smh smh
/blog

>>2418734
I'd say it was deeply suspicious since the ukraine war kicked up in gears. It was always big with euro nazi's but kind of got mainstream view with the war, not really any excuse for them.

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>>2418734
There are two types of Pagan in the year 2025 and your friend sounds like the one on the right.

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GIVE ME MARROWS OR GIVE ME DEATH

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>>2418168
He's a Islamist and an avid Jew-hater. They call him جيزا قاتل اليهود(Jezza The Jew-Slayer.)

A No. 10 staffer has revealed that the "selling off allotments" policy was issued in revenge after Jeremy Corbyn announced his new party.
The staffer claims there was a meeting on Monday to decide how to react to Corbyn, and this decision got passed and Rayner was sent out to enforce it.

>>2417662
It's very clearly a geopolitical issue with racial problems integrated into the discourse. Nobody is truly Islamophobic, they are Antii Arab and anti poor. They just don't say it out loud for fears of losing standing socially

>>2418734
Man is a hippie. Not that deep

Corbyn is a cool guy

>Asked specifically by Owen Jones, “Do you think Labour’s dead?”, Corbyn refused to say so. Instead he described how “a lot of Labour MPs come and search me out in the library” and whisper furtively, “‘Jeremy, I think you’re doing the right thing’… Are they going to come over to my party? No. But are they going to work with us? Yes.”

>Corbyn is still so wedded to Labourism that he can talk about Tony Blair in almost wistful tones, telling Jones that his 1997 government—which Margaret Thatcher called her greatest achievement—was an “interesting conundrum”.


>>2418799
and corbun still clings onto the vague hope he can work with labour MPs.


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