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>>2441667 562 posts and 160 image replies omitted.>>2444051>The US economy is actually slowly expandingAt this point in Capitalism economists have long learned how to fudge the numbers to make it look like growth is infinite.
America's economy hasn't really "grown" since 2008 besides having a larger consumer base. The core productive industries are not growing. The middle class is shrinking. Labor is in a historically weak position. I know Liberalism has accustomed people to boom/bust cycles but shit is not getting better for anyone except the 1%, and every boom/bust cycle seems to only benefit those people. American workers are very much starting to feel the hopelessness if you talk to anyone irl.
>>2444052>America is 1880s Russia. Political violence, anarchists, black hundreds and an emerging proletariat (reindustrialization) + the yet-to-be-formed American Marxist intellectuals (American Plekhanov) which will succesfully criticize the old movement and formulate the demands of the new communist movement.Bruh.
>>2444056>1880s Russia didn’t control the world’s finances or hold the reserve currencyForget all that. The government fucking knows who all of us are. You think you can do anything before they know exactly what you're doing? If you try to do something 1 in 4 people probably will be an agent or an informant.
You guys just want to
LARP so bad. I would call you guys history nerds, but that's not fair, you guys are like fantasy nerds. You want to LARP as a bygone era that has no actual resemblance to the reality you live in.
>>24440791 - He's old
2 - 3 and a half years
3 - Because he does it himself and smells like feces so no one wants to touch him
If you ever ask these LARPers to just extrapolate the barest details of their vision it's impossible. Even the vaguest details hurts the wishful thinking.
So America deteriorates to the state of like 1917 Russia, Occupied China, 1970s Ethiopia, or some other undeveloped feudal monarchy, then…
Like lay out more details. Where is the government, where is the FBI, NSA, CPT, LGBT, and the rest of the alphabet in all of this? They're just like:
>You know what, let's let the communists have this one.
>>2444099I don't think governments are as competent as they project themselves to be. I genuinely believe you can in fact LARP yourself into overthrowing the government with nothing more than an angry mob at the right time and place.
The surveillance state apparatus is only ever used reactively, to character assassinate or manufacture pretext for harassing political dissidents. It's very ineffective(and this is proven) at stopping terrorism, much less local organizing which takes place in a country that is actually barely surveillance-capable outside of big cities. Have you ever seen those news reports on people going missing on hiking trails or in the woods/mountains? They use fucking helicopters and still can't find them for days/weeks/months. America's wilderness is vast and largely unmonitored. The surveillance state works great in big cities where most activism takes place, but once you exit the like 5 mile radius of Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, etc metro areas it's basically impossible for the government to track you without a cellphone. There's literally fugitives on the FBI most wanted list that are still living in t he US.
I'm not sure why burgers have this confidence in their government being the most advanced and sophisticated in the world when we've been electing nothing but retards for the last 60 years without fail.
>>2444110It very very much is not. Russia in the 1880's was an agrarian backwater too overextended for its own good while relying heavily on ethnic Russian chauvinism, welfare systems were nonexistent to the point they make America look like a social democracy by comparison, there was a growing industrial proletariat, etc. By contrast America today is nominally a constitutional democracy primarily focused on a service economy despite all of Trump's LARPing, mass communication allowing for decentralized networks to easily link with each other, a more robust type of patriotism that allows and other ethnicities to identify as American and defend the state, and it's also not directly conquering territory either instead relying on proxies.
This is not to say that revolution is impossible in America, but it will have to take a very VERY different form than what the Bolsheviks managed
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