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>>2444113 >>2445421There is an extent to which Israel has done a soft coup in the US by legally bribing a lot of the legislature through AIPAC and possibly also illegally blackmailing a lot of our politicians through sex trafficking networks like the one ran by Epstein. I don't like Judaism because I don't like religion in general but it's important to keep in mind that, even though a majority of Jews are zionists, they would not be able to accomplish very much without their American collaborators. These collaborators are sometimes willing bribe takers, sometimes blackmailed pedophiles. But in neither case are they innocent. Also there are willing and enthusastic Evangelical Christian Zionists, and even Catholic Zionists like Joe Biden. To an extent US views Israel as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in the middle east, and also as a sort of "Remiro D'Orco" if you've ever read your Machiavelli (pic related). The US bourgeoisie also armed and funded the nazis until they decided the nazis were no longer useful for fighting Bolsehvism.
Anticommunism and Capitalism is the main ideology and political program of the United States, and Zionism as a specific form of genocidal capitalist politics has only taken so much control through bribery and blackmail.
>>2445421Capitalism controls the world and Zionism is merely one of many hypernationalist genocidal expressions of the world capitalist system.
The government officials who take bribes from AIPAC choose to be bribed and should be seen as collaborators.
>>2445440>Christian ZionistsThere's also secular zionists. The anticommunist "New Atheists" of the 00s lilke Hitchens, Dawkins, and Harris were full throated supporters of the the US GWOT, and the zionist entity, calling it "the only democracy in the middle east". Many secular imperailists support Israel because they view it as less "theocratic" and more "democratic" than the Arab states.
>>2445452Its literally true >THOUGH
Israel is a proxy nation for the US to do its dirty work
>>2445506>to be red states= growing how can they be growing if they are under the "high risk/recession"? re-read.
And makes sense, states like SD, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, are in my head states that have sucked a lot in economic terms.
>>2445438The way I think about it is that the US has local clients to enforce its brand of imperialism, people like the Marcos regime or the samozas of Nicaragua, in these examples, the samoza didn't have a political project outside of getting rich and handing the empire its profit.
Israel is a client of the United States empire that America associated itself with to assist it in imperialism of the middle east but the zionist have a political project outside of American interest. They knew that America couldn't really be relied early in the story of Israeli American relations there were examples of American allies learning that what they needed was secondary to what America wanted. So my theory is that the Israelis cultivated influence internally in America to ensure America would never abandon it, they grew the zionist links to the Jewish diaspora in America, they encouraged the rise of Christian zionism, they influenced the cultural narratives by having the adl be involved in education, and in so many other ways. Now even when Israel and American interests diverge Israel won't get its America's friend moment. I think there will be a breaking point where this contradiction will snap
"Nobody wants to work anymore" is all I hear. Yet I constantly see videos of people doing free labor for their communities. It's so interesting—every city in America is completely caked in filth and garbage, and it's just totally normalized. But you go to China or Japan, and those cities are very clean. You know why they're so clean? Because they pay people a wage to clean the cities, and those jobs are given to people who are disenfranchised.
In America, we bulldoze the people that we would give those jobs to. But nobody wants to work. You see it time and time again: "Oh, no one wants to work. People aren't willing to put in the work. These young people don't want to work." How many volunteer opportunities are there out there? There's a lot of them. These organizations can't find enough volunteers. People volunteer their time all the time, whether you're doing mutual aid and feeding people or cleaning up the garbage like I just talked about—going to the park and cleaning up all the used meals, whatever. It's all work that needs to be done, but it's never paid for because it benefits society.
Because we live in a society, a system called capitalism, where if something benefits people but it's not explicitly hurting people and making profits, then it's not allowed. So when we talk about nobody wants to work, there are so many jobs and so many things that need to be done that do not pay, because the system does not want us to be uplifting anything. To pay marginalized people for cleaning or care would directly contradict the state’s reliance on their disposability. Far cheaper, ideologically, to treat them as waste than to allow them into circuits of stable reproduction. They will pay someone $50,000 a year to bulldoze the homeless people instead of paying the homeless people $20,000 a year to just pick up the goddamn garbage so they can have a place to stay. But no one wants to work.
When we talk about what a society needs to do, it needs to completely reorient itself towards collective purpose. And that simply cannot be done under capitalism, because any business that's focusing on building collective purpose is just not profitable. The person whose job it is—and they're getting paid $157,000 a year—to analyze spreadsheets and determine whose rent can be raised to make the Blackstone Corporation more money… is that person serving any sort of valuable position to society whatsoever? Or is he a detriment to it? He's a detriment to it, but it makes a good profit for Blackstone and it makes good money for him. So then, through our capitalist lens, we go, "Okay, well, you're making $157,000 a year. You must be pretty important. You must matter. People must give a damn about you. That must be an important job." But the garbageman? Not so important. The roofer? Not so important. But even the person who's cooking you food, who's enabling that person to go and have their office job where they just screw over the working class—none of those people are considered important. But I can assure you that cooking food and feeding people, even if it's at a McDonald's, is better for humanity than raising someone's rent in an Excel spreadsheet.
Capitalism inverts value. The metric is not necessity or humanity but profitability. Under that logic, destructive roles—landlords, rent analysts, speculative finance—are ranked as "high value" precisely because they facilitate accumulation and are anti-human. Productive roles—garbage collection, food service, construction, care—are systematically devalued because they generate use-value but cannot be easily leveraged into surplus extraction beyond bare subsistence wages. Keep the people who cannot commit the cruelty in a state of precarity, uplift those who can inflict the cruelty. This is the essence of profit over people.
We know, as young people, that climate change is going to come—it's already here. And we know that our futures are going to be dramatically different than our present unless we take radical action to mitigate and rebuild in the face of climate change. States like Florida are going to continue to be hit by stronger and stronger hurricanes, more frequently. Do we rebuild in the same cheap way, or do we find solutions that can mitigate some of the destruction? Do we build seawalls, or do we just ignore it and let the sea level rise?
Well, the capitalist class and the boomer class have all coalesced into a single faction of people who know that climate change does exist, propagandize that it doesn't to fool a few rubes and do not give a fuck about our future. When Trump says to shut down all wind and solar projects endorsed by the federal government—every single one of them must be destroyed and shut down—and when Biden signs off on the Willow Project despite global youth outrage against it, that is intentional. The reason Florida rebuilds cheap subdivisions after each hurricane, the reason pipelines are laid instead of seawalls, is not ignorance. It is the deliberate reproduction of vulnerability. Disaster becomes profitable: insurance speculation, construction booms, land clearances, rent increases. Disaster capitalism in its purest sense.
These men serve the same system, the anti-life regime. So not only do we already spend money investing in this stuff that's just being tossed away, it is a fuck you to literally our future. So if these people do not represent our future, and this entire society does not benefit us in any regard, at a certain point you've got to go, "I want a future. I want a future. So how do I get a future?" And that involves violent armed struggle against the state.
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>>2445518Very low
If he invades Chicago, the troops are just going to hang out by the bean and Michigan ave.
No way would they go to the south side.
>>2445416Idk if it's redditors saying this, but gdf (haven't watched in a year) would position Israel as having control over america, like him arguing that the Iraq war wasn't because of oil but just Israel.
Which was a red flag since it seemed like his analysis was subscribing to the zog theory, and it seemed that's the case since he'd tolerate those type of comments on his videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXOwPbQRYNE >>2445546Netanyahu was lobbying for the overthrow of Saddam in the 80s. It's a mixture of imperial interests and Israeli ruling class lobbying.
Just like the Ukraine thing is a mixture of imperial interests and Ukrainian ruling class lobbying.
Same with Taiwan and any other client regime where the US keeps the right in power and suppress the left. Even with the settler/indigenous thing it's not unique. With Bolivia we suppressed the inidgenous socialists on behalf of Jeanine Anez's hyper christian european colonizer party.
The US keeps right wing regimes in power all over the world in order to suppress socialism, but also benefits from lobbyist money, bribes, and imperialist profit/rent/usury through the IMF and World Bank.
The Israeli thing is just more intense than the other examples because of the dual citizenship, this idea of "Judeo Christian" civilization, the ties to the entertainment industry, and the blackmail and assassinations.
>>2445616Ah fair enough, yeah Hinkle is pretty much a reactionary socialist. My comment is more you'll see a bunch of people throwing shit around at each other. You say "Fascism is a kind of anticapitalism" one moment and you'll get corrected with "Actually Fascism is the White Guard of Capitalism", you say Fascism is Capitalist and you get "Actually it's reactionary Socialist." No hard feelings?
>>2445618Yeah, I suppose I jumped the gun. My apologies.
>>2445607Have you ever considered that if you're constantly being accused of being a reactionary, it's because you are?
Or do you just spend all your time daydreaming about doing the Bodo league massacre and beating up hippies for playing music at a strike?
>>2445643Soviets: Just take scientists and engineers, usually middle class
USA: Literally takes nazi leaders (like Adolf Heusinger and Reinhardt Gehlen) and put them in prominent positions in NATO or let them run amok in South America doing CIA coups (like Klaus Barbie).
Hmmmmmm…
>>2445659Nah it's just Felix. He'll say Hitler was a based Left Wing revolutionary compared to anyone on the Left that disagrees with him.
Not sure if it was him but there was also some retard on here claiming The Empire from Star Wars was "clearly based on the USSR as a form of anti-communist propaganda". That's the level of intelligence you're dealing with here.
>>2445449yeah, and right-wingers or "zogbimfied" leftist brains in here just don't want to assume the guilt or responsibility for their actions.
>me bruh? I am not zionist, I am not an Israeli, tf you talking about?>it was always the zionists, not us, the burgers who funded with weapons, and economic aid the zionist regime.they are two step closer to bernard sanders than to anything revolutionary.
>>2445675>he just hates Westoid womenliterally in the clip he keeps saying that non western societies are superior because women obey the men. how are you going to spin this as anything but reactionary?
>You must put western women back in the kitchen to save eastern women from imperialist subjugation.Not true + false choice + black and white thinking.
This is Jared's dad
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/national-guard-troops-dc-begin-carrying-firearms-rcna226890>>2445675>Hating western women is objectively a less reactionary belief than praying for the sacrifice of most of the worlds women so you can have free healthcare for the American Volk.WE DON'T EVEN GET FREE HEALTHCARE
WE DON'T EVEN RENEW OUR INFRASTRUCTURE
HOW THE FUCK IS BURGERS GIVING ZIONAZIS INFINITE MONEY CHEAT CODE TO BOMB PALESTINIAN WOMEN DOING ANYTHING FOR WESTOID WOMEN?
>>2445701>MLK and Malcolm X were basically walking race riotsOrganized struggle against white supremacy does not equal race riot
race riots = whites freaking out at what guys like MLK and Malcolm X were doing, or even just freaking out over nothing
tulsa massacre = race riot
MLK march = protest against white supremacy, not "race riot"
Malcolm X = Armed struggle against white supremacy, not "race riot"
race riot = unorganized reaction by racists to armed or unarmed struggle against racism
>>2445706I mean the whole point of MLK was creating this very visible tension and flooding the news with images of savage racists screaming at black children for going to the wrong school. It was non-violent resistance against white supremacy.
Saying the goal was to trigger race riots is unironically what the press accused MLK of.
Ah but you see, see? See how it's literally the same? Of course it is! Don't you have eyes to read?
<US and Russia ‘propose West Bank-style occupation of Ukraine’>Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff is understood to support the idea, which can be revealed before the president meets Putin in Alaska on Fridayhttps://archive.is/20250815180031/https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/us-russia-deal-west-bank-occupation-ukraine-wfvnt6v6fYou Ziggers are just the same as Zionists.
>>2445737Host: Do you think a woman's vote should count?
Hinkle: "it's umm… I don't know it's difficult in a country where they're all like brainrotted on SSRIs and medication and shit, it's like… they're not even… they're not even real people at this point. I wanna say yes, because
I've been to so many countries where, the women are traditional, they listen to the m- the man in the house says "vote this way" and then they all vote that way. So I wanna say yes because it can happen, it can make sense."
Liarl.
>>2445721I had a professor in university who told the class that western medicine was a product of imperialism because some of it used crops that Native Shamans had been using for centuries so I imagine it’s something like that.
Granted in his case it was merely that you shouldn’t credit western doctors for stuff like, I dunno, the Polio vaccine?
Host: Do you think a woman's vote should count?
Hinkle: "it's umm… I don't know it's difficult in a country where they're all like brainrotted on SSRIs and medication and shit, it's like… they're not even… they're not even real people at this point. I wanna say yes, because
I've been to so many countries where, the women are traditional, they listen to the m- the man in the house says "vote this way" and then they all vote that way. So I wanna say yes because it can happen, it can make sense."
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>>2445675Iron Felix: "Hating western women is objectively a less reactionary belief than praying for the sacrifice of most of the worlds women so you can have free healthcare for the American Volk."
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>>2445705Mass Tor Baiter: "hinkle said no such thing. hinkle said ameriKKKan pigs (not women) are brainrotted by their drugs. you are the reactionary, ameriKKKan"
look at these fucking fed wreckers… holy shit dude… imagine pushing this shit…. the most zionist president of all time was a senile irish catholic who presided impotently over the supreme court's rollback of reproductive rights but somehow I'm supposed to believe that the burger reich is bombing palestinian women to make its own women more free… like it's some kind of algebraic equation and not just the ruling class fucking people over on both sides of the ocean.
>>2445759Hinkle: "I've been to so many countries where, the women are traditional, they listen to the m- the man in the house says "vote this way" and then they all vote that way"
You: This is simply principled objection to imperialism. Nothing else to see here.
>>2445760What the fuck even is Hinkle? Is he a fed, a crypto fascist, grifter? Or is he a combination of all three?
>Mass Tor Baiter: "hinkle said no such thing. hinkle said ameriKKKan pigs (not women) are brainrotted by their drugs. you are the reactionary, ameriKKKanI wonder if anyone else here has noticed the overlap between Third Worldists and ACP freaks.
Does the Atlantic read Leftypol? what world is this?
>The Real Reason American Socialists Don’t Win
>Only part of the left’s most promising political party even wants to win elections or come to power.
>Earlier this month, the Democratic Socialists of America, of which Mamdani is a member, held its biannual convention in Chicago, attended by 1,500 members. There, the organization pledged to “build a broad left-labor coalition” and “draft a socialist candidate” to run for president in 2028.
<Why shouldn’t they? Mamdani’s primary campaign in New York showed that an appealing socialist candidate with a strong economic message could generate voter enthusiasm. Nor is Mamdani the first: Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez remain popular with the Democratic base, and just this year they brought out tens of thousands of supporters with their “Fighting Oligarchy” tour. According to a recent poll, 67 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of all Americans under 30 years old view socialism favorably. And with 85,000 members, the DSA is already the country’s biggest leftist organization, larger even than the Communist Party during its heyday in the 1940s.https://archive.ph/F5Zw3>>2445778hinkle said traditional societies are superior because the women obey the men. you ignored that, lied about the content of the video, and implied a false choice between saving western and non-western women from subjugation. It's a false dichotomy. a false dilemma. black and white thinking. reactionary apologetics. idiocy.
>>2445780>Hinkle is a reactionary but he does not want all the world's women bombed and murdered by the imperialist state forever in order to provide the American Volk with free healthcare. he said " I've been to so many countries where, the women are traditional, they listen to the m- the man in the house says "vote this way" and then they all vote that way."
You keep proposing a false dilemma between anti-imperialism in the periphery and anti-patriarchy in the imperial core. This is the same false dilemma NATO media presents when they use human rights as a veneer to justify imperialism. Your rhetoric is dishonest and doesn't work.
>>2445736Wrote this message before in the previous thread (
>>2445461 ), but since only one person replied (since the thread just about closed), I'll post it here again:
What is the feminism influence to be taken as of now?
Women have closed the gaps in many fields, hell even flipping the pay gap with gen z, and have taken over the literary fiction industry where they do systematic misandrist and white supremacist discrimination to authors.
Even that quote begs the question: if men are the bourgeois gender, how do they suffer from the patriarchy now?
Clearly the dynamics have to have change, (atleast here in america), with all the 3 waves of feminism that has had massive influence over 100 years that quote was made.
(Also side note: the book, while good, is outdated. It's like the first anthropology book so you cant blame Engles on that)
>>2445789I am specifically comparing Hinkle to CPUSAnon while you are comparing him to the voices you hear inside your head. This is why it's difficult for you to understand that Hinkle, as an anti-American and therefore anti-imperislist, is objectively less reactionary than CPUSAnon, a class collaborationist (and he doesn't even try to deny it) who wants to reform and sustain imperialism forever (and again, he has never even tried to deny it) and is so demented he posts his fantasies about murdering Communists in Korea and beating up hippies for opposing the Vietnam War.
You keep rejecting this specific comparison between two real people and assuming it means I support Hinkle. I do not. I support his execution, but it is an objective fact that he is to the left of CPUSAnon.
so many psy ops ITT
i gotta stop coming here
it's bad for my mental health
just different flavors of reactionary idiocy
>>2445787it's so funny dude when nazis say oy vey annuda shoah. please say that joke for the 6 gorrilionth (KEKERINO!!!!!!) time
>>2445800I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU ABOUT CPUSA ANON
FUCK OFF ABOUT CPUSA ANON
I WAS POSTING THAT CLIP TO SAY HINKLE IS REACTIONARY
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT CPUSA ANON
YOU DO!!!!!
holy fucking shit you are mentally ill dude. go chain a woman to a stove and get her pregnant. i'm sure it will free the third world (somehow) since that is the false equation you keep proposing in between raving about the board celeb
>>2445806I specifically posted that Hinkle is to the left of CPUSAnon and you started shitting your pants about how I support Hinkle and don't care about CPUSAnon. Please go change your diaper and come back to the conversation when you can conduct yourself like an adult.
>>2445809Last thread or the thread before. I am phone posting at work so I can't find screenshots but it was in response to someone talking about the hard hat riot during the Vietnam war, then CPUSAnon posted some elaborate fantasy where he said he could sympathize with an imaginary Korean war veteran who beat up hippies for wanting to play CCR at a strike.
>>2445813fuck you bro now I gotta clean coffee off my keyboard from laughing
it might be ruined actually
>>2445817>I specifically posted that Hinkle is to the left of CPUSAnonand MY RESPONSE WAS
>not a fan of CPUSA [THE PARTY NOT THE BOARD CELEB!!!!!] but I haven't seen any official party statements from them that women are all roastie cunts on SSRIs who need to get back in the kitchen (you will ignore this).and you responded
<Hating western women is objectively a less reactionary belief than praying for the sacrifice of most of the worlds women so you can have free healthcare for the American Volk.BOMBING PALESTINIAN WOMEN DOESN'T GET ME FREE HEALTH CARE YOU IDIOT. STOP RAMBLING ABOUT THE BOARD CELEB AND GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL
AND HINKLE WASN'T JUST "HATING WESTERN WOMEN" HE WAS DOING THE TYPICAL REACTOID NONSENSE OF PRAISING PRE-CAPITALIST PATRIARCHAL RELATIONS AS "ANTI-IMPERIALIST"
YOU DISHONEST FUCK
>>2445809Nah I didn’t, Felix does this shit that I think is called a Gish Gallop where he goes from one insane wild point to another.
I said earlier that I could understand someone born in a wildly different time with different circumstances would be alienated by hippie stuff. The example I used was a guy who lived through the Korean War and had an emotionally distant father (my great grandfather, for example, allegedly never smiled or showed warmth, it was kind of a thing back then) and then he sees kids throwing flowers everywhere and calling themselves “River Starchild”
Felix took that, compared it to Clint’s character in Gran Torino, said I wanted to be Clint’s character, said I compared myself to him, then imagined some scenario where I talked about stacking Korean’s bodies. The line between fantasy and reality is pretty blurred for him.
>>2445824OH WOW ANOTHER NAZI!
The idea that Jews have dual loyalties is an age old antisemitic trope and blood libel that has been fact checked as untrue by Snopes AND the ADL.
Reported for misinformation!
>>2445839not all jews are zionists y'knew
>most areyeah and most whites are racist but I don't go around saying all whites are only loyal to whiteness (or EVROPA) because that would be schizo
>>2445829CPUSA is a class collaborationist party that wants to reform American imperialism of its most self destructive tendencies so it can stably rule forever and continue to dominate the world. This is objectively to the right of what Hinkle believes. I don't know how that is so hard for you to understand but it's pretty obvious you are losing your mind right now so maybe you should stop posting for a while.
>>2445831The example you used, in reasonse to the discussion about a riot wherein fascists beat the shit out of anti-imperialists who wanted to end one of the most brutal and monstrous wars ever fought, was to make up a fascist murderer you could sympathize with. Because the only difference between you and that imaginary fascist murderer is courage.
>>2445810>it's really funny when the annoying aryan supremacist genocidal maniac pretends to be the Zionist supremacist genocidal maniacOne of them is a powerless larper,likely a schizo… and the other, one of the most powerful political forces in the world hegemon. Whose state project is so fundamental to the hegemon's interests that it counts with infinite material support there, and domestically.
One of them is a boogeyman in liberal democracy's mythology and the other a big ass cudgel that is constantly being used to mobilize the security state against anything the USA dislikes.
One of them is taboo, while swearing allegiance to the other is a litmus test for being accepted in the hegemon's politics.
>>2445841No you're right, not all Jews are Zionists. I don't believe all Jews are loyal to Israel. But Zionists only have loyalty to Israel. They are not serving America's foreign policy goals. They literally threatened to suicide nuke Washington if America stops sending them money lmao.
I think it's really fucking annoying to refuse to acknowledge the danger of Zionists in America. There's nothing wrong with Jews but Zionists need to be treated like traitors because that's what they are. They are not operating under a dual loyalty or benefiting America in any way. They were literally the most important issue in the last US election and will probably be the most important issue in the next one too. How does that benefit America that a different nation's politics dominates our elections? That's called imperialism when America does it to other nations bruh.
>>2445841never bring up what Jews in Iran think 👀
the
Le zog controls everything isn't sustained.
>>2445857>a lotno they didn't.
the second largest Jewish community in the ME is in Iran.
the only ones doing espionage for Israel are Azeris, and Kurds.
>>2445860I don't think being religious actually has much bearing on whether a Jew is a Zionist or not but I could be wrong. It's more about their geopolitical worldview. If they're a Jewish supremacist they will be a Zionist, because the aim of Zionism is the enslavement of everyone else under Jews.
Like most Jews in Israel aren't even very religious. Netanyahu probably doesn't even believe in God.
Now whether a Christian is religious or not definitely affects their propensity for Zionism. Evangelicals in particular are basically a slave religion for Zionists.
I think it's important to call out Zionist Jews though, because if we're gonna be doing the whole "Not all Jews are Zionists and conflating the two is bad" thing then we can't just accuse eachother of hating Jews every time a leftypol user calls Miriam Adelson a slur. Zionists get zero respect from me.
>>2445868and that's a cute money laundering.
saved, btw.
>>2445871Jewish supremacy is part and parcel of Judaism though. Their texts aren't even particularly coy, they just straight up say that Jews are the chosen people entitled to all the land God has granted them and everyone else is inferior to them and should be their slaves.
Judaism is an incredibly reactionary religion and the only reason why we ignore that is because of the Holocaust, which ironically killed most of the liberal, non-supremacist Jews.
Frankly, all religion is reactionary in nature and should be treated like it, but none of you are prepared to have that conversation yet.
>>2445811The overlap starts with the 'Baristas aren't proles' nonsense and goes from there.
Also on the topic of them overlapping, I'll never forget this thread on Xitter where a bunch of ACP guys and TWists joined together to defend some guy calling an anti-Zionist Jew a k*ke. It was wild.
>>2445886not a peep from AOC? lmao
I wish I could go back in time to 2020 and explain to myself that MTG supports genocide less than our darling AOC
>>2445899I agree. People should have less ingroup preference.
I think humanity is overcoming ingroup preference because that's part of building a global society and becoming a communist human civilization which is moving beyond class, race, nation, etc.
>>2445893History has shown us that Social Democracy is the midwife of fascism. There has never been a fascist movement in history which has existed without the material support of Social Democrats. This includes Zionism, which is nothing more than Jewish fascism.
Read Dutt and you will understand the true nature of Social Democracy.
>>2445901it's less about lying. People are under pressure to answer the way they think they should. Like when a person says they believe in God they don't just do it because they believe in God, but also because they are pressured to believe in God. White people after 1968 are under more pressure to not appear racist. People of color on other hand are under pressure from their own communities to combat the return of segregation and white supremacy. So people of color are under pressure to show ingroup preference (hence so much emphasis on "black owned businesses," etc.) while white people are under pressure to prove to everyone that they're not racist and want a post-racial society.
Does that make sense?
>>2445940it's pretty easy or was pretty easy, though. you only need to go to freelancing sites, and find people who are buying American IPs to use your computer as a VPS, with the use simple apps.
It's been years since I don't get bothered by them.
they are usually looking for dev jobs, and pay you a small commission, over the income they generate.
>>2445947and how else do you think you'll find a Norh Korean this side of the globe?
>exploit.well, they'll find someone else.
>>2445946email
[email protected]submissions can be in pdf, docx, plain text, whatever you prefer.
>>2445957Hard to say. It seems like tapping into the orthodox pop is already signaling the iof's increasingly dire straits. It sounds like between Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran, they're stretched very thin.
I don't think they're at Ukraine's point yet, but it's hard to see them being able to draw down in the near future. Even if they strike Gaza off the list, occupying Lebanon and Syria seem like long term problems that the iof has no real solution for. Last I heard Israel is wanting to pick back up where they left off with Iran. It seems like a recipe for things to get very bad very quickly, but I wonder if there's any alternative for the zionist entity.
>>2445885I mean here's the thing, he's just some douchebag on an imageboard. I'll post on here, sure, but it's not like I don't have some friends I spend time with or coworkers I hang out with.
Him on the other hand? All I know about him is he hates his coworkers for liking capeshit and rants online. I think he has a sister that runs a small business (fashion or whatever) but I don't imagine he's got much of anyone.
>>2445837Honestly I think my opinions are pretty normal all things considered. Like Felix would try to present it as the next coming of Hitler but if you were to put us in a room and have us say the same ideas we've said on /leftypol/ I'm pretty sure that if you took the median population of any country, they'd think Felix was a fucking kook and may have some disagreements with me.
There's this channel on YouTube which is just getting some villagers in some undeveloped part of the world to watch mainstream media and culture. Some old guy on there was cheering along to fucking Iron Man of all things. The Third Worldist conception of the Third World is basically just insane stereotyping.
>>2445844Most things here are pay what you want and that money does go a long way for the project.
https://houdini-magazine.itch.ioAlso accept XMR (Monero)
XMR: 48X1RjJNkHy6q5mPyUgCC3eGfiezNpZ2eVWKJYbkmYwx6QCuKSPnRCebExwborvGVWR5yNcQi3gMq3XtXXadzo1tVeh4KRh
>>2445962that video is based and what the guy is saying is very reasonable and not schizo. meanwhile ITT we have a bunch of schizos trying to say what jerry day is saying in that video but going way overboard
Jerry day:
>are we just gonna let our government kill people in our name? we should stop them!people ITT:
>you are evil and must commit suicide. you are already fascist. there is no hope. you are collaborator. you are scum. >>2445967>There's this channel on YouTube which is just getting some villagers in some undeveloped part of the world to watch mainstream media and culture. Some old guy on there was cheering along to fucking Iron Man of all thingsTrust me — the real failure is the state’s tolerance for indoctrinating low-income villagers with a toxic ideology: the glorification of the “American way” and its so-called “heroes.” It’s like an acid burn to the bone, because a whole generation will grow up absorbing those values and gradually become gusanos, usually eating the same media that emulsified his brain with Iron Main. A country shouldn’t allow American culture to dominate until its people are well educated and aware of the darker sides of that way of life, the effects of its propaganda, and the myths reproduced by its media.
it's not the retort you think it is. I know because you'll see color revolutions with people using costumes of these freak heroes, in opposition of their national heroes.
>>2446000Nice trips.
And yeah, I gotta wonder what retard looks at Star Wars, then starts to steam and huff and yell "THIS IS SLANDER AGAINST THE GLORIOUS SOVIET UNION!" If "The Empire" has any fucking relationship to Socialism in your mind, I've genuinely got to wonder what the fuck you think Socialism or Communism actually is.
>>2446012It's capeshit, who cares?
Like my God you'll see this kind of cultural critique on here where apparently Marx's thought is so fucking flimsy, so uninspiring, so dull, that it can be beaten by Iron Man or whatever. If superstructure has
that much of an effect, then the only smart thing to do is try to launder your ideology through works of fiction like Ayn Rand did.
>>2446013the magazine has been set up to operate even if I'm killed, the persona of erik houdini would be adopted by another person(s) if that happened.
I've been working on other ways to decentralize the platform as well.
>>2446017Lol.
That said, Absolute Superman has been a pretty fun trip so far, which is why Felix reacting to it like a Vampire reacts to Garlic and screaming that it's Fascist has been especially fun.
>First Issue literally has Superman explain the socio-economic caste system that was on Krypton>Literally explains that Superman's been going around the world fucking up a western company's resource extraction machine>Has a scene where various third world and minority workers all say they're praying for the day Superman gets angry enough to kill not!Jeff Bezos>MegaCorp CEO holds a shareholders meeting where he literally kills a baby to the other rich boardmembers cheering>Western mercenaries make a big deal about "peacekeeping" but it's clear they're just hired thugs that get rewarded by the company for brutalizing union workers>Superman basically smashes a tank while shouting "THESE PEOPLE ARE THE WORKING CLASS!"It's a decent comic so far.
>>2446024CULTURAL REVOLUTION NOW
THERE WILL NEVER BE A HIGH SCHOOL NAMED AFTER JEFFERSON DAVIS AGAIN
WE WILL BURN EVERY PLANTATION, NO MORE WEDDINGS YOU SICK FUCKS
>>2446016>only smart thing to do is try to launder your ideology through works of fiction like Ayn Rand didthis is what every country in the world should do.
>>2446015oh, shut up. not every country has bandera like a national hero.
>>2446026>…because apparently it's impossible to pick up a history book and learn about the confederacy without their statues being in public. why can't these cowards just admit they want to glorify the confederates, and to glorify slavery?because they can't be too honest about it. also, not that is
too great to glorify losers.
>>2446051fucking odious. can't discern between US' NGO's and internal discrimination.
fucking Britons had William Dickson, that doesn't mean black people deserved those words.
It's a shame Vijay Prashad couldn't prepare himself more for the interview with hinkle, and got framed the way he did.
>>2446052just a few choice quotes that I don't think qualify as "libshit"
>Those are the people that get brutalized. The people who fight back don't. People who show up armed don't. The Black Panthers knew this. The focus on non-violence by liberals is a betrayal of the working class and the bloodied history of oppressed people reclaiming their freedom.
>at a certain point you've got to go, "I want a future. I want a future. So how do I get a future?" And that involves violent armed struggle against the state, it involves sabatoge, wildcat strikes, blockades, port takeovers, and other deliberate organized events of rupture. is that libshit?
>>2445794I know their rights are being rolled back, but it doesn't really answer anything.
To what end is the danger and how should they be approached/treated?
Like a simple example is Palestinians are being genocided, posting and support is very aggressive, and that's a good thing.
For women, sure rights are taken a step back, but does it justify this reductionist anti-man/misandry posting?
If so, do I not treat them as an equal, but as people are must be first thought of as victims?
Like with that trend of women choosing the bear, was I suppose to go
> The situation is bad, but they're just using rage bait to engage in conversationor
> They're way over stating their situation and they're just rage baitingor
> This is right, and the situation is THAT direor etc.
What about that recent tea app?
You know, the one that allows women to anonymously slander and dox men without even knowing they're on the app (since they cant register for it)?
The one that now that because of that data leak, now all that data about those guys who didn't consent to it now have it leaked.
Should we be not only just okay, but defend women for promoting and using such an app, despite they can just stick to using facebook chats and discord servers (etc.)?
I have to ask this since they clearly internalize reactionary thought, and every time they promote some patriarchal, white supremacist, homophobic, and/or white-washing capitalist takes, they're defended since it's seen as sexist to criticize them.
And with the general reactionary crackdown as you mention, it's more than ever to wonder if the feminists are now just the pink Hitler group enabling reactionary sentiment among women.
>>2446062Honestly Houdini seems to be an earnest, hardworking guy. Yeah there's the whole e-begging stuff but it's not like he's making tons of money from his magazine.
>>2446048Just wanna say I appreciate your commitment to this, bro.
>>2446048Ok I finished. It was about a 15 minute read at a moderately fast speed. I thought a lot of the subjects you hit upon were good and a lot of the points you made were good, but that this was essentially several different essays at once. It felt unfocused at times. Maybe it's your style to move from one subject to the next. I posted choice quotes in another post:
>>2446062Here are some more that I thought were bangers and worth expanding on at another time:
>What would the Panthers do with 100k a month in Patreon donations? One well-produced YouTube video a month, or a people's medical clinic? […]
> The pundit left has betrayed the working class, squandering our donations and good will to fuel their lifestyles. I will not sit and watch another YouTube video about the struggle produced by someone who doesn't live in that struggle. I don't need a documentary to tell me how I'm already living, and neither does the rest of the working class.Way earlier in the essay there was also this, which I will comment on:
> The person whose job it is—and they're getting paid $157,000 a year—to analyze spreadsheets and determine whose rent can be raised to make the Blackstone Corporation more money… is that person serving any sort of valuable position to society whatsoever? Or is he a detriment to it? He's a detriment to it, but it makes a good profit for Blackstone and it makes good money for him. So then, through our capitalist lens, we go, "Okay, well, you're making $157,000 a year. You must be pretty important. You must matter. People must give a damn about you. That must be an important job." But the garbageman? Not so important. The roofer? Not so important. But even the person who's cooking you food, who's enabling that person to go and have their office job where they just screw over the working class—none of those people are considered important. But I can assure you that cooking food and feeding people, even if it's at a McDonald's, is better for humanity than raising someone's rent in an Excel spreadsheet. […] Capitalism inverts value. The metric is not necessity or humanity but profitability. Under that logic, destructive roles—landlords, rent analysts, speculative finance—are ranked as "high value" precisely because they facilitate accumulation and are anti-human. Productive roles—garbage collection, food service, construction, care—are systematically devalued because they generate use-value but cannot be easily leveraged into surplus extraction beyond bare subsistence wages. Keep the people who cannot commit the cruelty in a state of precarity, uplift those who can inflict the cruelty. This is the essence of profit over people.One of the simplest points I've gotten across to people when talking is that it costs more to maintain a bureaucracy that gatekeeps jobs and keeps people jobless than it would be to have full employment. The dream of the Keynesians (or so they claimed) was full employment under capitalism. But full employment under capitalism cannot happen because capitalism needs a reserve army of labor: A pool of desperate people on the verge of homelessness or starvation who will do any job no matter how little you pay, and a pool of potential scabs to hire in the event of labor action. The capitalist calls himself a job creator but really he's a job destroyer, through automation, and a job gatekeeper, through refusing to hire. Who creates jobs? The economy itself generates jobs through demand, which is just the economic expression of the needs and wants of people. People need food, so there emerge jobs to grow and cook food as a result of that need. The capitalist doesn't create that job, the capitalist merely owns the means to do that job, and only hires the lowest bidder, in terms of wage, and the highest bidder, in terms of productivity. I think it is telling that the USA and England killed the ITO after WW2 and replaced it with GATT because they were afraid of full employment leading to socialism since workers would have high leverage during strikes, and there would be low availability of scabs, and low mobility between jobs. Capitalists actually like high turnover rates. They like firing people, and they like people quitting, because it means faster and faster circulation of labor power as a commodity in the economy, which means more opportunities to get it at a lower and lower cost.
>>2446064>To what end is the danger and how should they be approached/treated?>Like a simple example is Palestinians are being genocided, posting and support is very aggressive, and that's a good thing.I have no horse in this race but the difference between the Palestinian struggle and the Women's struggle is women in America have some semblance of agency over their rights. Their rights are being rolled back by people living among them, people they work with, people that they are able to influence, whether through violence or sex or money or whatever, women CAN affect the outcome.
The Palestinians have no such agency in their plight. The Israeli occupation/genocide is entirely onesided, with no negotiations, and nothing the Palestinians can do to change the tide besides begging outsiders for help. Women in America are not trapped like that. They have every bit of agency to do ~things~ to protect themselves and their rights, but just don't, because Americans are in general totally domesticated. These women prioritize and choose their jobs, their lives, and their personal freedom over their rights, but it is still a choice. Palestinians don't even have this choice. No amount of Palestinian lives or political assassinations would end the genocide without outside help. That isn't to say the struggle of women isn't also a struggle we should partake in. But women in America need to like, I don't know, buy a gun or something jfc stop thinking you can vote yourself into having rights goddamn dude.
t. I've never had sex with a woman
>>2446064>thinking i care about bourgeois feminism>pic of JK rowlingbuddy working class women (cis and trans) are affected (and by extension their families) by the reactionary attacks on women and over and over again reactionaries ITT were pretending that these attacks are either meaningless to care about because a genocide is also happening (we can care about both) or even worse pretending that they are mutually exclusive struggles (i.e. that "hating first world women" somehow "saves third world women") when in reality we know that these struggles are not only both relevant but interconnected.
>>2446072> have no horse in this race but the difference between the Palestinian struggle and the Women's struggle is women in America have some semblance of agency over their rightsYes of course first world women, whether workers or bourgeoisie, have more "agency" over their struggle than third world women. And that's exactly what reactionaries want to remove, is that agency, and then some of the more clever reactionaries like Jackson Hinkle romanticize the "less developed" parts of the third world and openly pine for the "traditional society" where women "vote how the man tells them" and is an obedient servant and wife who bears many children etc. etc. They want to RETVRN to that but that is what Engels called "reactionary socialism." i.e. anticapitalism that is not forward looking towards a post capitalist society but anti capitalism that is backwards looking towards a pre capitalist society.
>>2446069It was actually 3 essays ive been working on combined into one which is why it is disjointed, I almost ended it before getting into the media left stuff, but I have been wanting to say something about that for a while now, and now that I have, I probably won't ever speak on any of the media left again, only thing to do is out do them via action, organize harder, do more with less and leave them behind in the dust.
the full employment bit is interesting and I really agree with you, I think there's so much work that needs to be done, and climate change will only make it worse. it unpaid volunteer work, is in a lot of ways that naturally arising work you mention.
>>2446083<no real reply<just a new goalpostsigh
>Aside from abortionis that not important enough even though it's literally a class and health issue in addition to a woman's issue, since it contributes to the reserve army of labor and poverty when young working class women are forced to give birth, or causes their early death if it's septic or ectopic?
ok there's also been attacks on contraception, sex education, birth control, austerity on anything family related including maternity leave and family planning, cuts to social programs for single mothers.
womens' prisons also have become more brutal btw. Even though men get incarcerated at a higher rate, the rate for women being incarcerated has been growing fast and catching up with men and womens' prisons have a serious problem with rape being committed by guards and covered up.
btw over half of incarcerated women are mothers so as the state criminalizes people more and more, and as the crime rate increases due to poverty and drug addiction, that means more and more mothers getting incarcerated, which means more and more families broken up, and more and more rape being committed by guards in prison in a society that has effectively outlawed abortion… as reactionaries becomes more desperate to increase the domestic population (both for nationalist reasons and for reserve army of labor reasons) and get rid of the immigrants, that means instituting mass rape against women and forcing them to give birth.
>>2446086>is that not important enough even though it's literally a class and health issue in addition to a woman's issue, since it contributes to the reserve army of labor and poverty when young working class women are forced to give birth, or causes their early death if it's septic or ectopic?The claim was that there are rollbacks but there are not significant rollbacks if you look past fearmongering. Roe v. Wade was loopholed for decades and abortion rights were dependent on states as it always has been. Democrats and pro-choice faction of the Republican party had decades to codify abortion at the federal level but failed. So for decades you can say the same thing you are saying right now but you would not call it a rollback.
>womens' prisons also have become more brutal btw.Now imagine the male prisons. Rollback are happening significantly for men's prison as well with no coverage. Rape in prison is normalized and viewed as deserved and covered up as well. The rest of your writing is criminalization of poverty and affects men just like women or perhaps even more. So this decline in health and class also affects men even worse and stats show this decline in men.
>>2446067Alright.
I just see the discussion as a polarizing thing as if women can no longer find any solidarity with men.
Any exception is a self hating man that tolerates their abuse and go
"Yes we should be women's rape slaves."
> small-fry compared to shit like forcing 13 year olds to carry rape-babies to term.Yeah I agree, but they take an issue like that and create insane analysis.
Majority of child rapists are men, but there's barely any child rapists, and this carrying out shit is from majority republicans that are or trying to please christian-fascists.
Even still it's, "All men".
When called out, they'll gaslight by arguing it's some challenging notion or a joke – but then the theory is just that same biological existentialism that pretends that power dynamics aren't tied to rape, which white wash all the pedophile women out there (which society already barely treats poorly) – all for greater argument of you cant work with men on this.
They choice of enemy is insane, and it's defended since women feel so "Unsafe" right now.
>>2446072I know the difference, I just brought them up as an example of a group of people that should be approached massively different,
(Also brought it up since they frame the men and women thing as if you see someone poise israeli vs Palestinian).
>>2446079Dawg bourgeois feminism still affects and influences regular working feminists and working women in general.
In general they just tolerate reactionary thought with very rare exceptions, in the name of letting their voice still be heard.
>>2446097I don't care about any of that though I'm directly responding to the post I quoted??
The opinion of some TradSoc weirdo doesn't matter to me.
>>2446098wdym? I think it's an interesting question: is the idea of women's incarceration rates matching men indicative of oppression against women? or that we're trending closer towards equality? because at least from where I see it, most of the explanation for the increasing incarceration rates for women is due to drugs, prostitution, and shoplifting? in which case, it just seems like women are displaying more agency in their economic situation and as a result are showing up more in the crosshairs of the pigs. whereas previously most drug dealers would've been male as women were actively excluded from "street life", now more women are getting busted for such crimes. is that women being victimized, or women finally being treated as equal under the hypercapitalist meat grinder?
>>2446099>Dawg bourgeois feminism still affects and influences regular working feminists and working women in general.>In general they just tolerate reactionary thought with very rare exceptions, in the name of letting their voice still be heard.i wasn't talking about bourgeois feminism or defending it.
this whole conversation started because someone was showing support for a right wing grifter who pretends to be communist and I showed a clip of him basically implying women shouldn't get to vote and basically should just obey their husbands/fathers like they do in the "traditional societies"
then I got hit with a bunch of false equivalencies as if 1st world women are all bourgeois girlbosses who benefit from imperialism and therefore hating 1st world women is the same as loving 3rd world women when that's clearly retarded and has nothing to do with wtf I was talking about
and then a bunch of other unrelated posters who weren't even in the original conversation showed up without reading or absorbing any context and just want to argue with me about how womens' rights aren't being rolled back enough to "warrant concern" as if womens' issues don't overlap with working class issues or imperialism issues (even though they clearly do because most women are working class and globally most women live in countries that are targeted by US imperialism)
like wtf? how are people confused like this? (don't reply if you're still confused or didn't feel like reading my whole post)
>>2446101>drugs, prostitution, and shoplifting? in which case, it just seems like women are displaying more agency in their economic situationhow the fuck is drug addiction and becoming so desperate that you resort to prostitution a sign of increased "agency"?
it's just a sign of poverty and drug addiction which is a class issue as well a womens' issue. it can be both at once. venn diagrams n shit.
>>2446100From interacting with them, men having the ability to consent is extremely problematic and will use lying, abuse, and group pressure to try and over come this.
Men are to be a tool for them.
>inb4 projectingI know this is how the patriarchy is suppose to push it, but it seems like they get an understanding of the patriarchy, and the problem they have isn't that there's oppression, but that it isn't women doing it.
>>2446102I've been just replying to that image, since I've been thinking about this stuff every day for a year and it's been driving me insane.
I try personal cbt but I hit ideological limits that would require a complete shift in thinking – like was the bear debate a slap in the face for caring about women, or are women a hurt animal where I logically expect them to bite, (that point I have to wonder if that infantizes women, and also that thinking is the foundation for the predatory male feminists) – other wise I just think feminism has been liberalized and they're now pink Hitlers, and they plus other "progressives" constantly defend and promote reactionary thinking with women.
Last wall of defense in the thinking going off the rails is worrying of the possibility of being a Hinkle.
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