>>2522790>Bro, what separates your vague claims that some underground cells who you can't point to and name or what they're doing any different from QAnon posting? What I'm trying to get across is that under the current conditions (extreme repression and mass surveillance) any and all revolutionary action must be both extremely clandestine and in (as I said) an atomized cell structure.
My claims are entirely based on what's actually viable under the circumstances. The worker's revolution is a natural force in the sense that as long as the proles are oppressed there will be material motivation for them to revolt. Let's say that even 40% of the US count as proles (a modest estimate that's probably much higher) which would be 136million proles. Let's say the population of proles that are Class Conscious, Willing, and Materially Capable of pursuing revolutionary activity is .0001%. That's 136 people. Let's say only 100 of these people come to the conclusion about both the necessity of secrecy and atomized structure. Those 100 people are still meeting this criteria. If it was ten people, or 30, or 500, or 1000 it'd be far from the point. The point is that statistically there's no reason it wouldn't exist.
<Revolutionaries are in control<Trust the plan!<WWG1WGA!I didn't say they were in control, or that you should put your faith in them, or any of this other irony poisoned nonsense. You can and should always take an active role yourself (which is what I'm pushing for) and go out of your way to form a cell in your area if you're ready (that is tailored to your local conditions). There is no vanguard or popular revolutionary party (that is not co-opted, heavily surveilled, etc) to turn to, this is THE option for revolutionary action with any chance at longevity.
>Besides even whether any such thing exists, you can't even speak about it in a hypothetical sense. I can't? Or shouldn't? Again, my assertion is that if revolutionaries exist they are forced into this structure. Given that revolutionaries DO exist (even if their range of numbers leans towards minuscule) then such a thing exists and is therefore not hypothetical but simply largely unknown.
>What could an underground cell achieve? How many people would you need? What is the general strategy behind this plan? I don't think you understand the concept. The cells themselves are not on the frontlines as we speak fighting the invisible war against the evil booj, they are people preparing for when material conditions are more than favorable towards revolution. The actions that they'd need to take to prepare for this are hyper-specific to whatever area they reside in. Would a cell of revolutionaries in NYC have the same methodology as a cell in Columbus OH? No, obviously not.
The structure of this means that every given cell has their own hyper-specific strategies tailored to their conditions. I'm not claiming that there exists a shadow network of underground guerrillas and they're all just hiding. This structure only exists as an overarching structure because these people are all working to advance 1 goal (the eventual prole revolt).
Please do not retardedly misconstrue this as me saying that they will spring out of their hidey-holes in the time of crisis to shoot cops and US soldiers, nothing I've described could not be applied to a cell stockpiling necessities to distribute or establishing secure locations for future use. My terms here are vague because the range of actions necessary for laying good foundations widely varied.
>Bro….>What says that Jesus has not already been reborn on this Earth and he will soon usher in the Messianic Age? These are incomparable. I am not making a claim that the small cells that do exist (which are forced to exist in these conditions) will usher in the Revolution suddenly and bring about the Communism. I'm saying that people are already laying the foundations (however small) which are not congruent across the continent and may take any number of actions because they are wholly independent outside of their goal.
>Where is your responsibility? You can't even speak on what these imaginary underground cells would or should be doing hypothetically?I'm not sure if this is another way of asking what the cells should do (which as I said varies depending on where you are in the US, and I'm not going to claim revolutionaries need to do XYZ if they're living in different material conditions than I) or if you're asking what I'm doing personally (which I'll assume not because that'd be a retarded question.) but I think I've addressed this already.
>Patriots are in control. Trust the plan. WWG1WGA.Again, retarded irony poisoned shit. Your disagreement with my tamest point (that the internet does not represent material reality) shows you're braindead. Kill yourself.
>>2522805>>2522868>The original genesis for this discussion was all these people who flip out here about people like Mamdani stealing your revolutionary thunder, so I think a logic question is what is your revolutionary thunder he is stealing from.>Yeah people like Mamdani and everyone else the idiots on this site feel superior to.I get it now. Don't even bother trying to understand what I'm talking about, I'm not sure how you even found this website. I think you'd be better suited to Xitter.com