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>>2521486Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2522874They are getting destroyed by people to the right of them for apologizing
https://xcancel.com/yrnational/status/1978188660915777973#m >>2522876>The cells themselves are not on the frontlines as we speak fighting the invisible war against the evil booj, they are people preparing for when material conditions are more than favorable towards revolution. The actions that they'd need to take to prepare for this are hyper-specific to whatever area they reside in. Which is what? Bro… how how have you wrote like 10 essays last thread without saying a single thing?
>Please do not retardedly misconstrue this as me saying that they will spring out of their hidey-holes in the time of crisis to shoot cops and US soldiers, nothing I've described could not be applied to a cell stockpiling necessities to distribute or establishing secure locations for future use. My terms here are vague because the range of actions necessary for laying good foundations widely varied.So what? General prepper theory?
Probably gonna go to the No Kings protest Saturday with some family. Will post if ICE tries starting shit.
>>252288550501 and No Kings are absolutely controlled opposition, but they are at least visible opposition nonetheless. For that reason alone communists anarchists and other radical left types that congregate here should try to go and at least organize their own blocs separate from the larger organization. If nothing else you could network with some real comrades that will be vital for the future
>>2522892the
belgians bordigists warned me against organising
>>2522877They are all dweebs. Why are zoomer men impressed with them?
>>2522878>Which is what? Bro… <TELL ME WHAT TO DO TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!!! PLEASE please go back to X.
>So what? General prepper theory?Preppers are individuals schizophrenically preparing for what they feel are imminent random disasters that wipe out society overnight. My example is describing building and stocking necessary infrastructure to be used in any situation where conditions are poor enough to allow clandestine cells to expand their operations. However as I stated this isn't the ONLY example of what any given cell could be undertaking. It's ONE (1) single example because there is no way to know what's needed in any given place without being there yourself. As I have tried to drive home this entire time.
>>2522885Socialists should attend in order to headhunt people that aren't satisfied with this midterm pr campaign.
>>2522901"HAMAS HAMAS HAMAS. YOU ARE AN ANTISEMITE!!"
>>2522904>Preppers are schizophrenica individuals So are you.
>>2522892I don't want glowies on my ass but i will say if you do want to join a actual bloc/group that isn't controlled opposition you'll usually find them from leftist pro-gun groups. These are even more common in the states
>>2522901Mamdani will win
>>2522901the real communist outcome unfortunately won’t happen:
a landslide Red Sliwa victory >>2522906True, from what I can imagine it seems like a lot of millennial-gen x cusper types are larping as zoomers. Weird how I just got this revelation.
>>2522901Silwa is going to call Mamdani a slur and then Cuomo is going to copy him.
>>2522913Just when i thought Sliwa could not be more based
>>2522904>My example is describing building and stocking necessary infrastructure to Which is what?
<TELL ME WHAT TO DO TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! You're still here telling me what to do, but only in nonsense terms. "Necessary infrastructure." You're even more detached from reality than the preppers.
I have a question for amerimutts, since american culture is entirely consumerism how will you actually establish a socialist collective that combats that? Its so ingained in the american psyche, and im not saying other places are much better but still
>>2522907the collapse is already happening, it's just not being talked about that way because Americans have been conditioned by entertainment media to expect it to be a sudden apocalyptic event and not a gradual normalization of systemic decay and social murder that will be accompanied by routine cascading infrastructure failure disasters that are treated as acts of God rather than symptoms of the dying world we now live in
>>2522828>I think the main problem here is that the people in charge refuse to moderate this place like an actual forumnah 100% the main problem is that no actual activism goes on here. you're told to go do it irl or go to reddit or whatever. this is just a place for leftists to post memes and complain about the current state of the world. but it gets depressing how repetitive it is being here every day and nothing changes. i wish there was *something* we could leverage our tiny userbase into doing as some kind of online activism for those who don't have a viable means of protest irl.
Reminder that Ziohran’s syrian wife propagandised against Bashar vigorously and is mum on the country’s running since Jihadist Jolani took power.
>>2522912>you know what the most useful way to look at the world is? through arbitrary interclass social constructs created by marketing firmsno
Mamdani wife should go to his events because Republicans online try to convince people she is in a burka not allowed outside because he is jihadist terrorist isis supporter. When actually she is a hipster Brooklynite. I think she could become pretty popular amongst young people
>>2522923>whether liberal zionists or wherever they may be ont hat spectrumSo not only Ziohran tolerates Zionists, but he is willing to work with even non-lib Zios, ergo KAHANISTS
>>2522870look at those dumpy ass honkeys. mfs want me to believe that's the master race
>>2522929I stand corrected (I'm not watching this because Bernie and AOC will also get the wall)
>>2522927Typical of hipster brooklynite to support jihadism in the middle east while she gets to enjoy brunch with her NYU alumni gurlies
>>2522924>She did not suck assads dick so she is evil This is a very niche opinion. She's a very strong supporter of Palestine. If your litmus test is you need to support assad to be a good person that is just a personal pet peeve that is only popular or even set in a marxist view point. You just like assad yourself.
>>2522935That is not popular*
>>2522870Why are they so fat?
>>2522922I don't disagree, because that's part of what I'm talking about. For years you had people coming here and going
>hey leftypol why don't we do xAnd again and again, over and over, they'd get shouted down and their threads shit up by people that insisted that nothing is to be done and leftypol is and can only ever be for shitposting. Anyone that was interested in actually making or doing anything left, and I think "board culture" and poor moderation policies contributed to that.
>>2522935Supporting anti-american anti-Israel Assad over Jihadists is objectively the communist position. One cannot be a mild succdem at home, ignore the imperial crimes abroad and call oneself ‘communist’.
>>2522925We live in the spectacle might as well think like we are. Even adorno said that there is no escape from it.
>>2522946The fact that she stays silent about Jolani while shitting on Assad is tacit support for Jolani.
>>2522943Also assad was hated by Hamas and did nothing to help them lol. They praised his removal
>>2522919I'm telling you to figure out what you need in your local area you fucking spastic, I can't give you The Big Revolution Checklist, sorry.
>B-But! Using general terms when describing something that can vary wildly with a million different factors is detached from reality! Schizo! Necessary infrastructure is nonsense! I'm not going to make up a scenario for you. My words were chosen to be broad so that it could cover the wide range of scenarios.
>>2522949Assad was actually fighting with Hamas on multiple occasions too militarily
>>2522949One cannot expect sensible positions from moronic Hamas.
>>2522947pic would be accurate if the guy in the middle was also peeing in the pool but just believed he wasn't
Fuck voters.
Fuck the dems.
Fuck the repubs.
>>2522945Also fuck grifting rape apologists.
>>2522952In the mind of a Hamas members what actually happened is assad led the killing of hundreds of thousands of sunnis which is what they are, Hamas members are sunni. He also did nothing to back them militarily to make up for that unlike Iran who did.
>>2522950In my local it means voting for Mamdani.
>My words were chosen to be broad so that it could cover the wide range of scenarios.Lmao.
Wow Bernie called what happened to Gaza a genocide for the first time, only after the ceasefire
>>2522954>grifting rape apologists.why was that directed at my posts?
>>2522954who do we not fuck though
what is the front in the class war that US communists should support
>>2522958couldn't have said it in the decades where it still would've made a difference.
>>2522958Nah he's done it before, although it did take longer than it should have.
>>2522954>dsa bad even though they have actual communists in it and it's by far the largest leftist org in the usa, probably the only one normies actually know besides cpusa which is a glowier honeypot >>2522960>who do we not fuck thoughThe real revolutionaries. If you don't know who they are, that's because they're clandestine. If you want to join them, don't worry, they'll find you.
I have a source from Mike Levin’s office claiming that there will NOT be missiles fired at Camp Pendleton. There will be normal artillery firings. The claim that Trump will shoot missiles into California is FALSE.
>>2522968 (me)
However, they will be closing the 5 freeway for a few hours on the weekend.
>>2522959Pisshad helped cover up the rape done by a CPI(Marxist) cadre member. He is also a grifting deuchebag.
>>2522962Fuck the dsa too. They are the lapdogs of the democrats.
>>2522962>dsa>not a honeypotThe DSA is literally used as a funnel for the DNC to secure the socialist voting block LOL. If you don't think the gov. already doesn't have access to their records you're retarded
>How have Palestinian groups reacted to the ouster of Syria’s al-Assad?
>Hamas congratulated the Syrian people on Monday for achieving their “aspirations for freedom and justice”. “We stand strongly with the great people of Syria … and respect the will, the independence, and the political choices of the people of Syria,” the Palestinian group said in a statement.
>Hamas sided with the uprising against al-Assad early in the crisis despite its alliance with Iran, which backed the government in Damascus. The Palestinian group’s position cooled down ties with Tehran and Hezbollah in Lebanon, but the alliance was eventually revived despite disagreements over Syria.
>Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)The Palestinian faction, which is allied with Hamas and Iran, said the recent developments are a Syrian matter that relates to the “choices of the brotherly Syrian people”.
>“The Islamic Jihad hopes Syria will remain a true supporter and backer for the Palestinian people and their just cause, as it has always been,” Ziad al-Nakhala, the head of the PIJ, said in a statement.
>The Palestinian National and Islamic Forces in Damascus>The coalition, which includes several Palestinian factions, described the ouster of al-Assad as an internal Syrian affair.
>“The Palestinian National and Islamic Forces in Damascus looks forward sincerely to the Syrian people’s right to determine their future and build a unified, fully sovereign Syria in a framework of freedom, justice, democracy and equal citizenship without discrimination,” the coalition said.
>It added that it hopes for a “Syria that continues to fulfil its brotherly and national duties towards the Palestinian people”.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/9/how-have-palestinian-groups-reacted-to-the-ouster-of-syrias-al-assad >>2522945>we are the world’s consumers. They need usWow what a fucking idiot
>>2522971how are your jungle boys doing? still terrorising the villagers?
>>2522971ok since your issue is with prashad let me say it instead since I am not le bad man. maybe you'll have a real response if someone else says it and not him.
The United States, 4-5% of the world's population still uses 25% of the world's resources. You outsource production to China and then claim China is the Carbon Polluter. China is producing your buckets. China is producing your nuts and bolts. Try to produce it in your own country, and see your carbon emissions rise.
How is AOC such a bigger simp than 80 year old Sanders jesus
>>2522971Some of them are, some of them aren't. During the SPA/CPUSA heyday, some of them were establishment simps, some of them were actual revolutionaries.
>>2522972We're in a fascist-adjacent state now. They have access to everyone's records. Shouldn't we be willing to organize however we can?
>>2522974>jihadists siding with jihadistswtf..? Not my hecking wholesome hamas!
Idk what you expected from them they're islamic jihadists. Support from hamas doesn't come from anything other than rooting for the resistance forces of a population being mass exterminated
>>2522978>How is AOC such a bigger simp than 80 year old Sanders jesusSanders political career is over so he has nothing to lose. AOC still thinks she'll be President someday(lol) and has to get the blessing of her masters.
>>2522978>Shouldn't we put our names into the big Socialists We'll Murder Later list?No?
>>2522975Thank God. I like that he's an idiot and not a competent imperialist.
or maybe he is competent and just towing an ideological line for his stupid masters, makes no difference in the long run 2015
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/assad-syria-has-no-relation-at-all-with-hamas/The Syrian regime no longer has any relationship with former ally Hamas and will never trust the movement again, Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview published Friday.
“There is no relation at all on the formal level or on the popular level,” the president told Swedish newspaper Expressen, adding, “I don’t think the Syrian people will trust them anymore.”
Assad alleged that the movement had allied itself with extremist militants fighting in Syria.
He said that recent events in Yarmouk refugee camp “have proved that part of Hamas, which is basically a Muslim Brotherhood organization, supports al-Nusra Front.”
He added: “That’s why the leadership of Hamas is in Qatar now, calling (for) help … after ISIS (the Islamic State group) attacked al-Nusra and Hamas.”
However, as the Syrian regime violently suppressed popular protests through the second half of 2011, Hamas gradually scaled down its presence in Syria, and dozens of Hamas members and their families returned to Gaza.
One diplomat told Reuters at the time that Hamas intended to keep a skeletal presence in Syria to “book a seat in a post-Assad era.”
The rift between Hamas and the Syrian regime widened when Hamas opted not to sign a statement by nine other Palestinian groups, including the PLO, in support of the Syrian leader.
The alliance was publicly broken in February 2012, when Haniyeh endorsed the revolt, saying: “I salute all the nations of the Arab Spring and I salute the heroic people of Syria who are striving for freedom, democracy and reform.”
At the time, analysts said that the public abandonment of Assad cast questions over Hamas’ future ties with Iran, which had until then been a major backer of the movement, and which stuck by its ally Assad.
Although Iranian support did initially flag, it has since been revived, particularly in the wake of last summer’s devastating war between Israel and Hamas, which killed more than 2,200 Palestinians and left large swathes of the Gaza Strip in ruin.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/assad-syria-has-no-relation-at-all-with-hamas/>>2522975He is right though
No serious producer can ignore american demands
Treatlerism is the scientific theory of our age
2013
The military unit of Hamas has broken ties with former ally Syrian President Bashar Assad and has begun training members of the opposition’s Free Syrian Army in Damascus, The Times of London reported on Friday.
Anonymous diplomatic sources told the Times that members of the Izzadin Kassam Brigades were training Free Syrian Army units in the rebel-held neighborhoods of Yalda, Jaramana and Babbila in the Syrian capital.
“The Kassam Brigades have been training units very close to Damascus. These are specialists.
They are really good,” a Western diplomat with contacts in both the Assad regime and the Syrian opposition told the London daily newspaper.
According to the Times, Hamas has been helping the rebels in digging a tunnel beneath Damascus in preparation for an attack on the city, a skill that Hamas has honed by constructing tunnels to smuggle supplies from Egypt into the Gaza Strip
>>2522979Then don't bitch about her not loving assad.
>>2522986Except there is the rest of the world. Nearly 8 billion other consumers
>>2522986>No serious producer can ignore american demands <Country A produces all the world's Stuff<Country B has all the world's Money<Country A comes out and refuses to sell shit to country BWhat happens next?
>>2522992NTA, idgaf how Ziorhan's wife feels about Assad I just think it's agiven that Hamas aligns with other jihadists
>>2522998If Hamas simply aligned with all "jihadist" they would never fight other groups who are also Muslim. This is a very simplistic view.
>>2522987>jolani is zigger approvedsince you want to repost bait from the last thread I will repost the answer to that bait.
From this exchange:
>>2522185>>2522203>>2522204>>2522205>>2522234>>2522238>>2522241>>2522243
>Bashar Al Assad is in asylum in Russia. meanwhile the people who overthrew him were US backed. You flatten this difference and equate shaking the man's hand with actually putting him in power.
>Yes Putin is a bourgeois reactionary statesman (coincidentally also in power because of a US-backed counterrevolutionary movement). But al-Sharaa is a critter of the USA who, if they had their way, would also replace Putin with someone more compliant (Rest in Piss, Navalny). When you look at all these reactionaries and you flatten the real differences between them, you forget that enemy is always looking to replace the less compliant reactionaries with even more compliant reactionaries. This is why you are mocked, not just for the handshake memes, but for this tendency to decontextualize current events from the history that led up to them, and to flatten real strategically-relevant difference between reactionaries.
<There is no situation will you look at Russia negatively
>I already told you dumbass that I do view Capitalist Russia negatively. It is a massive step backwards from the USSR, a step backwards that was materially supported by the USA. But I also recognize that the burger reich is behind the ousting of Assad and I find the way you view current events as isolated from their historical context stupid and annoying. al-Sharaa and Yeltsin (who put Putin in power) and Zelensky are all "Yanks To The Rescue." All these bourgeois leaders are reactionary and have agency, but the US being a global empire with more power than Russia, Syria, or Ukraine, has more control over the situation. They have escalation dominance. They are the driving force behind a lot of these geopolitical events. Also I live in the USA and by the Leninist principle of revolutionary defeatism, I oppose my own government's actions first and foremost.
>You just wanted to come to /usapol/ to cry about Russia and manufacture consent against a bourgeois leader who, for geopolitical reasons, the US state department currently finds to be a thorn in their side. Why don't you go to /ukr/ instead? >neckbeard liberal with a lincoln quote
>AOC agreeing
lole
>>2523001I look forward to your post when Russia extradites assad to syria.
>>2523006Where'd she say that?
>>2523010answering this guy
>>2523005She also talked about how many bills they pass with the republicans to try to say how much we all actually agree
I found this from RT Arabic about assad extradition request to syria. This is Russian state media take
https://arabic.rt.com/press/1720889-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%B9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%84-%D8%AA%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%83%D9%88-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%AF-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%82/Publication date:
15.10.2025 | 09:21 GMT
Sharia in the Kremlin: Will Moscow hand Bashar al-Assad over to Damascus? / RT
Syrian President Ahmad al-Shara did not wait for a new date for the postponed Russia-Arab League summit, which was scheduled for the 15th of this month. Instead, he decided to meet with his Russian counterpart in Moscow amid mixed expectations regarding the agenda for the one-day visit, which will last behind closed doors.
Al-Sharaa had spoken to an American channel on the eve of the visit about Damascus' demand to hand over deposed President Bashar al-Assad, who resides with his family and a large number of his entourage in Moscow's most upscale neighborhood (Moscow City). He occupies several luxury apartments that he purchased over the years prior to his escape, transporting suitcases laden with the Syrian people's money. These funds have arrived on private or regular flights to Moscow since 2014, where they are employed by a network of commercial agents and brokers, who invest them in real estate and purchase assets for major private banks.
Bashar and his uncle, Mohammed Makhlouf, conspired to plunder and smuggle Syrian funds to three destinations: Russia, Belarus, and Romania. A large number of brokers were involved in the transfer and disbursement of these funds. This author has testimonies from individuals who were part of the inner circle responsible for handling the affairs of the Assad and Makhlouf families, but they refuse to make public statements for fear of retaliation from the gang, which still wields considerable influence despite no longer being in power.
In the same vein, agents smuggled gold bars and ingots, stamped with the Syrian Central Bank's seal, into these bags. Some of these were then received at the Syrian embassy in Moscow under the guise of purchasing weapons and equipment for the Syrian Arab Army, without the knowledge or awareness of official Russian authorities.
In the first government-to-government contact between Moscow and Damascus after the fall of the Assad regime, and during a visit by a delegation headed by Deputy Foreign Minister and former Russian Presidential Envoy to the Middle East and Africa, Mikhail Bogdanov, on January 28 of this year, Sharaa demanded the extradition of Assad and his entourage implicated in crimes against Syrians for trial, as well as the return of looted assets.
The Russian diplomat responded that a fair trial was impossible under the exceptional circumstances facing Syria, which had only been in power for a few months, during which the contours of the new state were still unclear.
Claiming the funds requires documentation proving their return to the Syrian government treasury.
It is well known that the Assad-Makhlouf family did not deposit oil revenues into the state treasury, in addition to the illegal channels used by the regime of corruption and tyranny to plunder the Syrian people's wealth.
It's worth noting that Damascus investigative judge Tawfiq al-Ali issued an arrest warrant in absentia against Assad at the end of last September, paving the way for international prosecution of the case through Interpol. This means that Sharaa will be bringing criminal files, clearly prepared by the Syrian judiciary on the eve of the visit, to the negotiating table in the Kremlin with his Russian counterpart.
Sharaa's statements to the American CBS channel emphasize that his country will use available legal means to demand accountability for former regime leader Bashar al-Assad, without entering into a costly conflict with Russia. In previous statements, Sharaa has made no secret of his appreciation for Russia's neutral stance as armed factions advanced toward the Syrian capital and cities fell one after the other to a limited number of fighters, without any resistance or effective intervention from Russian air power or forces stationed at the Hmeimim airbase and other Russian military bases spread throughout areas previously under the Assad regime's control.
Sharaa acknowledges that had it not been for Russia's conciliatory stance, the cost of entering Damascus would have been exorbitant and bloody. Perhaps the future will reveal many more details about the ten days that shook Syria and toppled a corrupt and tyrannical regime.
The issue of handing over Assad and his entourage and recovering Syria's looted assets is unlikely to become the Achilles' heel in relations between Damascus, which feels the need for a Russian equivalent in its relationship with Washington, and Moscow, which will not relinquish its military and political presence in a country described as one of the most important keys to the region, if not the most important. It is unlikely that Russia will relinquish a promising partner for "Saleh, a murderous dictator who fled at night without even informing the leaders of his defeated army, and spends all his days in the tall glass tower "Moscow City" hanging from the high floors, addicted to playing computer games, while his brother Maher drinks alcohol and directs his henchmen to spread rumors and false news, sometimes about an Arab TV channel interviewing Bashar in which he talks about his imminent return to Syria," according to allegations by a German magazine.
The false news came on the eve of Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad al-Sheibani and Defense Minister Muharraf Abu Qasra's visit to Moscow in early August.
>>2522968UPDATE.
There is more information via LATimes
Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office is weighing whether to close parts of Interstate 5 beginning Friday amid concerns over what it says is a White House-directed plan to use live ordnance during a military anniversary celebration off Camp Pendleton’s coast in San Diego County — where Navy ships are expected to fire over the freeway onto the base.
Newsom’s office has received, but not confirmed, reports that live ordnance will be fired from offshore vessels during the event commemorating the Marine Corps’ 250th anniversary. The event is titled “Sea to Shore — A Review of Amphibious Strength” and will feature Vice President JD Vance.
>>2523011China is a dictatorship of the proletariat. Their national bourgeoisie are proletarian bourgeoisie. If they are poisoning the planet, then it's in the interests of the proletariat. A revolution isn't made with white gloves. This doesn't just mean killing people. It means all sorts of sacrifices, including "revisionism" and pollution.
Securing power is the first priority of the revolution. It doesn't matter if you have "real socialism" if your country can't survive in the real world. And China has done more than survive. It has stolen most of the world from the influence of western capitalist hegemony.
Most of the world's production is now organized under the purview of a communist party. This is socialism. You are just too much of an ultra to see it.
>>2523022>China is a dictatorship of the proletariat.Retard.
>>2523025>the guy wondering if Castro is in the Epstein files calls others retarded.totally checks out.
>>2522975Reminds of that the joke about of the 1st McDonalds in Moscow where they were telling the Russians to smile be super polite and of the Russians reply,
"if we are the ones with the burgers why are we sucking their dicks"
>>2523014In this article Russia state media calls assad insanely corrupt and says how he stole a lot of money for years from syrian people. This is RT
>>2523033Do you think the Assad sides could have won if they had been less corrupt and more attentive to the people?
>>2523037I am just observing that they are not painting him in a good light is all.
>>2523038I guess from the real politik logic why keep sustaining the damage from supporting a leader who was wildly unpopular in the Arab sunni world, might as well cut their losses and keep building influence in the middle east,
As long as they don't hand assad over then they look like allies with no loyalty
>>2523014Here are some snippets that stands out. Remember this is literally RT lol
>Bashar and his uncle, Mohammed Makhlouf, conspired to plunder and smuggle Syrian funds to three destinations: Russia, Belarus, and Romania. A large number of brokers were involved in the transfer and disbursement of these fund
> agents smuggled gold bars and ingots, stamped with the Syrian Central Bank's seal, into these bags. Some of these were then received at the Syrian embassy in Moscow under the guise of purchasing weapons and equipment for the Syrian Arab Army, without the knowledge or awareness of official Russian authorities.
>Sharaa acknowledges that had it not been for Russia's conciliatory stance, the cost of entering Damascus would have been exorbitant and bloody. Perhaps the future will reveal many more details about the ten days that shook Syria and toppled a corrupt and tyrannical regime.
>It is well known that the Assad-Makhlouf family did not deposit oil revenues into the state treasury, in addition to the illegal channels used by the regime of corruption and tyranny to plunder the Syrian people's wealth.
>The issue of handing over Assad and his entourage and recovering Syria's looted assets is unlikely to become the Achilles' heel in relations between Damascus, which feels the need for a Russian equivalent in its relationship with Washington, and Moscow, which will not relinquish its military and political presence in a country described as one of the most important keys to the region, if not the most important. It is unlikely that Russia will relinquish a promising partner for "Saleh, a murderous dictator who fled at night without even informing the leaders of his defeated army, and spends all his days in the tall glass tower "Moscow City" hanging from the high floors, addicted to playing computer games, while his brother Maher drinks alcohol and directs his henchmen to spread rumors and false news, sometimes about an Arab TV channel interviewing Bashar in which he talks about his imminent return to Syria," according to allegations by a German magazine.
>The false news came on the eve of Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad al-Sheibani and Defense Minister Muharraf Abu Qasra's visit to Moscow in early August. >>2523044every day our government keeps doing this in our name with our money the world thinks more and more we have it coming. stop your government before the rest of the world gets fed up with your shit.
>>2523011missed the point award
came to usapol as a safe space to slander the burger reich's enemies award
>>2523053>burger reich's enemiesAll capitalists are brothers even in war.
>>2523056He should have kept ignoring those questions to talk entirely about NYC policy
>>2523056I know people are really angry at mamdani and understandably so and I have no idea what will he turn out like in the future but he is skilled at navigating these tough questions where they try to pin him in a corner.
>>2523056that dumbass went on fox news?
>>2523029the right-wing are correct about one thing and it's that american women are kinda uggo these days.
>>2523056Smart answer, hamas has nothing to do with New York and if he was extra based he would ask one simple question
<why are you insisting I praise this foreign nation?Word it better but drive the point home. Why is the media demanding loyalty to Israel all the time? If he really wants to peel off right wing votes,
>>2523066He's probably hiding his real (based ) opinions out of a false sense of prudence.
I think strategically to normies that is a better answer and shorter than the truth.
>>2523069They did shoot missile at each other earlier in the year
>>2523066Refusing to condemn falls under the umbrella of tangential support tbf
>>2523069>NOW: Trump claims that he solved world peace.Not sure if he's faking it guys.
>>2523067Is a rented appartment a treat?
Is food of any kind a treat?
>>2523073>in 2024yeeeah. no.
>>2523069I'd give him credit for this. If Biden or Harris were in office Iran would still be at war with Israel, or at war with the crater that used to be Israel.
>>2523068The fascists will harp on even the most flaccid response of any perceived "socialist". Why play thier game, the stage play of bourgeois electoralism, reading from a played out script and playing the part of a clown? Socdems are pathetic, thier willingness to be the moderate side of fascism will only lead to tragedy, not for the pompous politicians and talking heads but the people who follow those who dance with the bloodthirsty fascists.
what has zohran mamdani got to say about the rampant dog abuse going on in the leftism spherism
>>2523076>Erm… Don't you know my small concessions aren't treats? Yes I know semantically rent isn't a treat instead Mamdani is simply doing his part as a socdem and giving temporary concessions to the workers
You Got Me! 10 years down the line when the next Liberal mayor lets these City Stores turn into public bathrooms I'll still be wiping the egg off my face
>>2523082He loves it, it distracts the young people from noticing his own knee bending to zionist influence and pressure.
>>2523082Shock collars 4 all
>>2523082it was a misinput, not his fault
>>2523080"social fascism" was a dumb psyop then and it's dumb now. fascism isn't just "bad thing happen", no matter how naive/stupid/corrupt socdems simping for capitalism may be. calling everyone a fascist just makes the term even more meaningless and unimpactful than it already is.
>>2523065Yes, but flooding the zone was always about creating too many distractions to follow, to obfuscate their ongoing crimes, and not just to cover past transgressions. Of course you just illustrated this pathology, I was only proffering a furtherance of perspective.
>>2523097Even Stalin, despite being the dumbass who created it, renounced it in favor of the Popular Front strategy that Trotsky had been advocating for all along.
>>2523025I remember when you used to be the based anarchist and defended China
>>2523111>you were cooler when you didn't know much about socialismDon't make this about me shithead.
>>2523077My life has been so stagnant it's hard to remember what happened when
>>2523111>>2523112I think China is more good than bad but some critical lense is always good.
>>2523101Is this import duty free? Hell, it doesn't matter anymore. Foreign governments can bribe and buy this guy and it's accepted as par for the course. And to think that the scandal around Ben Franklin's golden snuff box was responsible for the emoluments clause… quite the fall from relative grace and civility.
>Trump administration will set price floors across range of industries to combat China, Bessent sayshttps://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/15/trump-xi-china-bessent-price-floor-rare-earth-critical-mineral.htmlIs this communism? Even by American standards?
>>2523066The kind Gonzalo would have boiled everyone here
including you bloodgasm be like
<I don't care how many innocent Venezuelans on boats Trump murders, Maduro is a capitalist and all capitalists are brothers, even in war
>>2523025you didn't even read long enough to realize it was a snarky sneedy false flag bait post that secretly agreed with you
>>2523145
worldstar!
>>2523145
>damn that's crazy
>so lemme get a uhhhhhh
>>2523145>genpol isgsee
>>2522906see
>>2522925>>2523145
most peaceful whataburger
>>2523145
Why is RussiaToday reporting on a random fight at a Whataburger?
>>2523153>Why is RussiaToday reporting on a random fight at a Whataburger?Probably because they're just trying to make money. The Aussies and the Bongs are also reporting on it.
>tweetI was like where are the puddles of blood? But I guess there really was a little bit of spilled blood. RT says in the subtweet: according to The Independent. The Independent article says according to New York Post. It's always New York Post at the top of the food chain with these stories. Seems like they are the only outlet that bothers doing any journalism in the clickbait news sphere.
This Whataburger pick would make a dope album cover.
>>2523145>rt>>2523158>foxFear is the mind killer. It makes it easier to mold, at least. Good night…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRGrNDV2mKc>>2523145
I remember when a bunch of zoomers beat up these millennial marines at Jackson Hinkle’s hometown
>>2523145
they can show a video of kids getting beat up but god forbid we hear a swearword
>>2523110ok burger go overthrow your own government and stop expecting the evil capitalist chinese to do it for you. then when amerikkka is finally prolier-than-thou against all the other evil dengoid countries amerikkka can invade and destroy their bourgeoisie through the people's imperialism
>>2522870Where are the good looking rightoids? I'm thinking good looking people don't get that invested in politics.
What does /USApol/ think about centrist Marxism? Basically it’s when you advocate for a workers’ revolution in the long term but also support socdem reforms in the short term
I think it’s the most rational position to take
>>2523196You mean like Marx himself? So Marxist-Marxism?
>>2523196>centrist MarxismThere is a good reason Marx stuck strictly to to the term “communist” rather than label himself a marxist.
>>2523196it's never worked
>>2523199people in France started calling themselves Marxist while Marx was still alive. Engels recalls Marx telling him "if there is one thing that is certain, it is that I am not a Marxist"
>>2523196It only works if you have a complete power monopoly and plan to transition to full Marxism like China. It doesn't work as a method of transitioning from Capitalism because Capital will always dominate electoral politics.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/01/indifferentism.htm
< “The working class must not constitute itself a political party; it must not, under any pretext, engage in political action, for to combat the state is to recognize the state: and this is contrary to eternal principles. Workers must not go on strike; for to struggle to increase one's wages or to prevent their decrease is like recognizing wages: and this is contrary to the eternal principles of the emancipation of the working class!
<“If in the political struggle against the bourgeois state the workers succeed only in extracting concessions, then they are guilty of compromise; and this is contrary to eternal principles. All peaceful movements, such as those in which English and American workers have the bad habit of engaging, are therefore to be despised. Workers must not struggle to establish a legal limit to the working day, because this is to compromise with the masters, who can then only exploit them for ten or twelve hours, instead of fourteen or sixteen. They must not even exert themselves in order legally to prohibit the employment in factories of children under the age of ten, because by such means they do not bring to an end the exploitation of children over ten: they thus commit a new compromise, which stains the purity of the eternal principles.
> It cannot be denied that if the apostles of political indifferentism were to express themselves with such clarity, the working class would make short shrift of them and would resent being insulted by these doctrinaire bourgeois and displaced gentlemen, who are so stupid or so naive as to attempt to deny to the working class any real means of struggle. For all arms with which to fight must be drawn from society as it is and the fatal conditions of this struggle have the misfortune of not being easily adapted to the idealistic fantasies which these doctors in social science have exalted as divinities, under the names of Freedom, Autonomy, Anarchy. However the working-class movement is today so powerful that these philanthropic sectarians dare not repeat for the economic struggle those great truths which they used incessantly to proclaim on the subject of the political struggle. They are simply too cowardly to apply them any longer to strikes, combinations, single-craft unions, laws on the labour of women and children, on the limitation of the working day etc., etc.
>In 1839, when the political and economic struggle of the working class in England had taken on a fairly marked character, Bray, one of Owen's disciples and one of the many who long before Proudhon hit upon the idea of mutualism, published a book entitled Labour's Wrongs and Labour's Remedy.
> In his chapter on the inefficacy of all the remedies aimed for by the present struggle, he makes a savage critique of all the activities, political or economic, of the English working class, condemns the political movement, strikes, the limitation of the working day, the restriction of the work of women and children in factories, since all this – or so he claims – instead of taking us out of the present state of society, keeps us there and does nothing but render the antagonisms more intense. >>2523203>All peaceful movements, such as those in which English and American workers have the bad habit of engaging, are therefore to be despised.See Marx is against AmeriKKKan treatlerite $ocial fa$cist$!
The American "left" believes that the liberals they keep supporting, are secretly working for them. Because at the end of the day, those liberals are mere mortals, and they believe themselves to be possession of greater truths about the god of liberalism.
They believe in an even more cucked form of entryism where you build no power, not dual, not electoral. You sit back, the liberal superstructure provides you with a "representative" after extensively researching what feelings need venting at any given moment for any given demographic, a PR exercise in essence. A priest of the credo most in demand.
And this "priest of the moment" then herds his congregation back to the liberal orthodoxy, which is GOD. The Americans in general ( left included) eagerly accept that their representatives do not actually work for them, or represent their will. On the contrary, it is the electorate who is responsible for going through the motions and being well behaved liberal acolytes, so that their representative would gain the favor of the aforementioned GOD of money, and maybe become empowered to favor them.
American leftists literally worship liberalism and think of politics as a priesthood what petitions it for favor.
Then they tell you this is progressive towards socialism and you are a wrecker for laughing at them. Or denouncing their support of genocide and imperialism, as part of their performative communion, for the vague promise of some American exclusive benefits, at best. Literally at the expense of the entire rest of the world and a good chunk of their own compatriots, as well.
>>2523234who and what are you talking about? be specific
The US is so confused and lost on the China trade war stuff now. They used to be laser focused on this and had everyone on the same page. Now it really feels totally disoriented, no idea what's going on.
ive had a bizarre dream where i was looking at phone news and see a news where ben shapiro was shot at florida, my reaction was: "AGAIN??" also there was leftypol thread
>>2523284interesting.
i had a dream a few months ago that elon musk's mansion burned down and it exposed his basement and the firefighters dicovered it was crammed full of CP then he was arrested. i think it will come true one day.
so ICE is just deporting literally anyone who criticises israel, regardless of citizenship status, and americans still havent done anything? holy cucked country. you guys deserve worse
>>2523324>real events seeming like a simulacrum of internet memesunironic lain moment
>>2523025>China is a dictatorship of the proletariatthis is obvious to anyone with half a brain
>>2523324Why are many DOGE employees so young?
>>2523342elon musk's peter pan fantasies
>CNN: Graham Platner once called himself a “communist,” dismissed “all” police as bastards, and said rural white Americans “actually are” racist and stupid according to now deleted posts.
Zohran Mamdani in NYC, Omar Fateh in Minneapolis and Graham Planter in the Maine senate, all in less than a year
>>2523362Going by the BE videos on Platner, he seems like one of those military/intelligence people who sprout a political career out of nowhere, but libleft-flavored.
As in, glows like the sun.
>>2523335It is the will of the proletariat to trade with Israel 🙏
>>2523370>‘I got older and became a communist’: Deleted posts show Maine Senate hopeful’s raw views on politics, war, and policei like that hes trying to hide these (evidently truthful) comments, i don't like the fact that he was a blackwater mercenary in 2018
>>2523144Listen, I'm a simple clot, I read the first sentence and think I know the whole thing, like everyone else here, that's why I still post here.
>>2523145
daily conversations at the FSB be like
>Krymov the boss is saying we haven't hit the RT slop quota for today yet
<what are the ratios like
>we have so far today posted 200 JDPON memes and 500000 remigration Christian white nationalist memes
<200? that's too many, post the wignat meme
>>2523403>a simple clotA blood clot because you’re so fat
>>2523413Nah it’s cause he’s trying to appropriate Jamaican patois
>Beijing last week unveiled the regime for rare earths and critical minerals that will require non-Chinese companies exporting products containing even small amounts of the minerals to obtain a government licence.
>The move sparked condemnation from the US and other countries, which believe it will have a big impact on global supply chains given China’s dominance in the rare earths industry. President Donald Trump threatened to impose an additional 100 per cent tariff on imports from China and other countermeasures by November 1.
<Greer added that the rule gave China control over the entire global economy and the technology supply chain. “This will impact artificial intelligence systems and high-tech products, but even regular consumer items like cars, smartphones and potentially even household appliances,” he said.So China will be putting export controls on products in other countries that uses rare earths in the same way the United States puts export controls on products in other countries that uses US technology. China really is serious about controlling the global economy lol. Even if the USA started pumping out all the rare earths it needed tomorrow, it would all end up in China anyway since they own all the industrial machines capable of refining it. How can the americans expect to keep up with China getting more trade leverage every day
https://archive.ph/55A3F Western porky is putting aside their difference and coming together over the China's rare earth export ban
>Japan’s Finance Minister Katsunobu Kato called for Group of Seven countries to “unite and respond” to China’s moves, while his German counterpart touted a potential joint response of the bloc. Australia’s prime minister will head to Washington next week in the hope of negotiating a deal over critical mineral supply chains, as countries seek to diversify.
<HORSENS, Denmark, Oct 14 (Reuters) - The European Union is seeking to coordinate with the United States and other G7 partners a response to tighter Chinese controls on the export of rare earth minerals, trade ministers and officials from the bloc said on Tuesdayhttps://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-seeks-us-alliance-counter-china-rare-earth-crackdown-2025-10-14/>>2523080Socdem on socdem violence
>>2523438Mossad is going to ramp up the Sinophobia on Facebook and Twitter to levels previously unimagined, but it won't work since those users are already braindead
There is no amount of rehabilitating that Platner guy.
I'm sorry, but if you elect this moron America-first-but-from-the-left glowie I'm gonna *have to* clear my schedule and spend every hour of every day shitposting this place. Even if i have to burn every so far undetected proxy
>>2523342People keep ignoring my warnings as to how permachudded these zoomers are. I even call them retarded sheep and flex at them but they don't seem to budge. I even tell them to look at how ugly Asmongold and a lot of chuds are and they don't care. I think the promise is that the republicans will declare a rape jihad on liberal women at some point. A forced mass conversion event.
>>2523441ok but is he any less preferable than his competitor, a 77 year old Democratic lawyer who will be 83 by the end of the senate term
>>2523446Well I'm not from the USA, so my vote goes to whomever hurts USAnos most.
It is a shame that Trump can't have a third term. I'll be putting a good word with the next comet that you get one of those 2000s neocon carboard-cutouts of Bush, that the Dems seem to like now. Some real "cold warrior" type with their mouth a thesaurus for the word "freedom" and the most telling media blackout on their political career.
>Thiel anon is back
I can’t wait for this thread to become a five way shouting match between Thielanon, CPUSAanon, Felix, Chagosposter and MAGAcel. Hell, let’s bring back Thingnoticer so we can make the thread truly unusable
>>2523456I don’t know how anyone expects Trump to even last through this term, he’s declining
FAST >>2523403> I read the first sentence and think I know the whole thing, like everyone else hereNot everyone does that, and even if they did it would still be stupid
>>2523456euros should suffer for their weekend race riots. burgers would never
>>2523456 (me)
Some real apocalyptic shit. None of that JD Vance or bankers doing a controlled demolition/fire sale of US hegemony for their pockets. Nonono, I want you resuming the draft and shipped to a hell of your own choosing to get shot by other people I care even less about.
We need a real psycho at the helm of the USA. Preferably a full court of them.
Someone, unlike Trump whose showmanship is a matter of career, if hampered by age, who has fully imbibed the propaganda. Someone who, again unlike Trump, is truly a product of the liberal decay which failed to filter them. Trumpism was a tool for USAno politics, I want a *mistake* at the helm.
>>2523205anon… the orange quotes are something Marx is arguing against in the green quotes that immediately follow
>>2523468Wouldn't this take place after 2026 thoughever?
>>2523196>What does /USApol/ think about centrist Marxism? Basically it’s when you advocate for a workers’ revolution in the long term but also support socdem reforms in the short term>I think it’s the most rational position to takeIt's backwards. Like
>>2523202 said these "socdem reforms" only work if you already have a Communist party with a monpoly on power. What do Marx and Engels say? Marx and Engels essentially say you have the revolution first, and then you use that revolution to gradually transform society:
"
Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat."
- Karl Marx,
Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875
"
Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity. "
- Friedrich Engels,
Principles of Communism, 1847
>>2523468Electoralists really thought
>The most recent WSJ podcast episode on AI discussed whether AI is a bubble or not. They said that in the past few years, more money has been spent on AI infrastructure than in the past 4 decades combined on the federal interstate system. They estimated that for this investment to pay off, the AI industry would likely need to be earning revenue in the ballpark of 2 trillion dollars annually by 2030, which is currently more revenue than the entire US tech center combined today.
>In one Reddit post in 2021 about Maine's vote to block a power-transmission project between the US and Canada, Platner responded sharply to a commenter from Canada questioning the result.
>"I have to ask, and I do mean this is the most charitable of ways, but are you retarded?" Platner wrote. "We shouldn't have the eat the pain because you c*nts and Massachusetts couldn't act like adults. F**k off and die, leave Maine out of your capitalist fantasies."
kek he'd fit in here
>>2523491>In another Reddit post that year, Platner reflected on his life after his military service, saying he was “a vegetable growing, psychedelics taking socialist these days. After the war, I’ve pretty much stopped believing in any of the patriotic nonsense that got me there in the first place, and am a firm believer that the best thing a person can do is help their neighbors and live a loving life.” “Still got the guns though,” he added. “I don’t trust the fascists to act politely.”
<Platner also frequently weighed in on police violence, arguing that misconduct was “a problem that extends deep into the profession as a whole” and rejecting claims of accidental shootings after incidents such as the killing of Minneapolis Black man Daunte Wright, writing, “F**k these cops.”
<In another since-removed post from 2020, Platner responded to a thread titled “White people aren’t as racist or stupid as Trump thinks” by writing, “Living in white rural America, I’m afraid to tell you they actually are.” >>2523497ok go ahead and vote for him but when he does the Sinema Heel Turn Hustle don't come crying to anybody here
>>2523493It is good that proletarian managers who build the productive forces in Africa have banks
>>2523493>The Bank of Credit and Commerce International was an international bank founded in 1972 by Agha Hasan Abedi, a Pakistani financier.[1] The bank was registered in Luxembourg with head offices in Karachi and London. A decade after opening, BCCI had over 400 branches in 78 countries and assets in excess of US$20 billion, making it the seventh largest private bank in the world.[2][3]
>BCCI came under the scrutiny of financial regulators and intelligence agencies in the 1980s, due to concerns that it was poorly regulated. Subsequent investigations revealed that it was involved in massive money laundering and other financial crimes, and had illegally gained controlling interest in a major American bank.
>In March 2023, the United States' Acting Comptroller of the Currency Michael J. Hsu stated that "there are strong parallels between FTX and the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, better known in bank regulatory circles as BCCI,can't wait to see what happens to this mr beast bank!
>>2523499You have to be at least 30, and weirdly into politics as a child, to remember the Sinema heel turn, so I think new generations keep falling for it, because people like Sinema, who was the AOC of the late 90s and early 00s, are now remembered as having always been ghouls. These progressive darlings just kind of age into their reactionary ghoul roles and then a new generation comes along who sees them as the establishment (rightly so) but then it makes it that much easier to fall for a newer model of the same old shit. You have to break the cycle of false consciousness and reformism, but also make sure people don't lapse into inactivity and despair after breaking that cycle. Or lapse into the ruthless criticism of everything but themselves.
>>2523001What they're doing is that they're pretending that they didn't simp for the "Syrian Revolution" and regime change for years. It's so fucking dishonest.
>>2523003missed the point again award
>>2523508by the time people born after 2000 get into power they'll already be 80 at this rate. At this point you need to have a revolution just to be governed by people who aren't fossils, let alone to change the mode of production
>>2523513>not a trve democracy !.it never is, libs and cucks will never accept that liberal democracy always ends in killing itself.
>>2523514The cult of democracy must have their will broken
>>2523517this cult was mogged in imperial rome when the republic ended, it's not my fault that libs copy from history but does nothing to stop what happens later.
the future of every liberal "democracy" is a dictator.
>>2523517>>2523514I agree, democracy heads think hitting the "vote" button like a rat expecting cheese is the most moral and superior political action they can take with all other courses being vulgar and unecessary. But point out that the options you get to vote for are not democratically managed, in fact it's quite the opposite, and that the votes they can cast in the current system are demonstrably divorced from democratic control of their political and economic lives majority or no, and they just have no answer other than "vote some more". I think real democracy advocates must be brave enough to understand that democracy must actually be established in a place like the US, instead of just being vote fetishists who can only vote even if the vote is faxed into a paper shredder.
buds i need advice. This is offtopic but am i a connected unified being or am i just a bunch of cells that think they are a unified being when its not
>>2523525an holistic entity is just a collection of smaller entities in relation with each other. you are a unified being of cells. the cells don't "think" they are unified, they behave towards a unification that you experience as a sense of self through your consciousness.
>>2523523>They brought the democracy bringing and freedom spreading home, simple as. I can't wait until they firebomb the antifa demoncrat suburbsIMO today's fascists look back a little bit earlier, to the "glory" of late 80s and 90s.
One can only hope they do to themselves what they did to the eastern bloc, nazification and all. That's why it heartens me when the USAno mainstream looks more and more like deranged terminally online nazoids dropping the already paper thin pretenses.Those are today, what the economically sheltered true believers of liberalism would be after the fall of the USSR. They'll run whatever they touch into the fucking ground and then shrug, get a medal and collect their "freedom" circlejerk awards for the next decades.
>>2523525the experience of oneself is an emergent property of the behavior of your brain, but the brain cells individually don't think, they just behave. They behave in a way that produces thinking on a higher level. That higher level is… you.
>>2523110oh, boo-hoo. it's the US to blame in that sentence. it was the older generation who moved sky and ocean to do the Sino-Soviet split, pouring billions into the Chinese economy with factory investments. what did the older generation did? overthrow the government? they jerked-off the USSR fall. now what are the younger generations do? instead of decapitate washington? stop buying labubus (you wish). suck it up, and walk it off.
>>2523110>oh won't someone think of the exploited ASIC designersEven by anti-CPC shilling standards this is retarded.
>>2523560brown fash always make me laugh
>>2523562Brown fash are the future of Nazism
does anyone have the atlas shrugged meme that says please give me 20 billion dollars
zohran status?
>>2523554
retard
I have discovered inextricable proof that proves the CPUSA is fascist. The CPUSA the peddels phony, patsoc, revisionist theory of "bill of rights socialism." This phony "socialism," a most vulgar form of revisionism, is bourgeois confucianist legalism.
https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_Socialismhttps://www.cpusa.org/article/bill-of-rights-socialism-and-the-future-of-the-republic/>Bill of Rights Socialism deepens the theory of the mixed constitution and gives it a proletarian character. Rather than calling for the abolition of the senate as such, Bill of Rights SocialismThe constitution is not of "mixed" class character. The constitution is fascist. In every Communist revolution, the bourgeois senate is abolished "as such," in totality. Therefore CPUSA bill of rights cannot possibly be socialist because it explicitly upholds the illegal terrorist american senate.
>But the struggle is not to “abolish” the republican form outright. There are no serious ideas, to be perfectly frank, on what to put in its place. The soviet system was for the Soviets, the Chinese system for the Chinese, so on.The CPUSA has no idea what socialist government is. The system is Socialist People's Republic. CPUSA is chauvenist and racist so they call the People's Republic a "Chinese system." These are real systems, not unserious ideas like "bill of rights socialism." The science of Marxism-Leninism is universal. Marxist-Leninist Socialist Republics ALWAYS work every single time. In China in Russia Everywhere. CPUSA attempts to de-universalize the science of Marxism-Leninism, a most insidious type of revisionism.
>>2523573sucking up to zionists and still getting called the president of hamas, as expected
>>2523572call 'em Naztecs
>>2523560why do people revise history like this?
<ooooooooooh group A is committing genocide right now that means everything bad that ever happened to group A didn't happen but was also good and should happen againwhy can't people just admit that a group which had bad things happen to them are also capable of doing bad things to others? Is that too complicated for their tiny brains?
>>2523332isn't this basically the concept of hyperstition
>>2523589>discovered proof<its one of the first things you find when you learn literally anything about the organizationworld class detective skills there anon. thank you for your deep dive
>>2523549>muh treatlersNTA but if you think working people here are making enough to be all treatlers, then you’re out of touch
>>2523591If Zohran gets CIA'd or deported by trump, i'ts gonna be because the american stablishment today is so schizo that they think that the most basic policies is gommunism and not being zionist enough is Khamas. You love to see it.
>>2523595i have no answers as to why people consistently think this way but i share your frustration. it might literally just be that human preference for symmetry causes people to continue adjusting their concepts to be as frictionless as possible. the tendency for ideas to sloppify
>>2523138It’s a bourgeois state making a last-ditch effort to prop up its economy with half-assed dirigisme while it cannibalizes itself
>>2523612by showing its capacity for change this economy is going to be fine in the long run. its europe japan and south korea that are going to have major problems
been out of the loop a few months
why did charlie kirk kill himself on live tv?
>>2523620He was bullied too hard
>>2523589You said this yesterday.
>>2523620someone stole his ipod and he wanted to become an hero
>>2523560>Black SS wannabesThey could ship me off to the camps and I would still be laughing.
>>2523551>He's a robber!Suburban people are so fucking fragile lmao
>>2523522Well, the founders probably had an inkling because they were a part of that class, that the minute the ruling class is under threat they'll pull the full one-man dictatorship lever.
>>2523637They're probably still spooked by China tariffs
>>2523637>what happenedTry zooming out.
>>2523569>>2523564Anon, it's a Twitter screenshot. Do you know he won't read your replies on here, right? Who are you arguing with?
>>2523441>if x happens then I will waste my time doing nothing of value I see Felix's teachings are propagating the fire rises
they finally charged a main leader of 764
>The legal charges against Shahriar account only for acts that occurred before 2023, when German police seized his computer and phone during a raid of his home. After the 2023 raid, Shahriar obtained a replacement phone and laptop and probably continued his behavior “without interruption,” German authorities have said.wow fucking thanks germany. pricks
https://archive.ph/Uynimanyone can link me to that article saying people moving to florida are more republican than those born in the state?
>>2523670Why is he wearing work boots?
>>2523677politicians often larp as the people they claim to represent
>>2523681It doesn’t even fit with the suit
>>2523670This guy is still a senator
>>2523658>34 years oldThey're just kids…
thiel status?
>>2523620He was high on fentanyl and his neck artery just couldn’t take it
>>2523693Diseased and sweaty
>>2523690What is this? Is he like temporarily paralyzed from being so old or did he just like forget what he was doing?
>>2523674>One photo showed Shahriar cross-dressing in women’s clothes. Another showed the teen alone at home, dressed as a Nazi officer and wielding a large sword.Many such cases!
>>2523706Wasn’t he applauding it a day ago or so? Killing criminals? Incoherent old faggot
>>2523698Obviously age related mental decline
>>2523705Okay so instead of executions or re-education would the most humane solution to the rightoid question being assigning them as concubine boiwives to randos?
>>2523712it's not war crimes when israelis do it. he's not incoherent. hypocrisy and double standards are the essence of power. the powerful can do whatever they want and it's considered the law. if the weak do anything back it's a crime. He is saying to Gaza "you will be held down, raped, and shot in the head by Israel. any resistance from you is morally wrong and will be met with more of the same." it's not incoherent at all.
>>2523599Gaddafi fucking won.
>>2523735the admiration of violence and power. this is why he was praising the houtchis after saying they took a beating but stood tall.
>>2523741I mean I’m probably going to one of the protests, bringing some family too.
Debating making a sign that just tries to hit most of the stuff in that NSPM-7 thing Trump pushed; see if I can’t get arrested for saying I’m the head of antifa or whatever.
>>2523705>>2523726Lumpen minorities are often groomed and used as patsies by the billionaire fascists. It's the same shit with serial killers and school shooters. 764 is a CIA Nazi operation. That kid is not the leader of 764 anymore than President Gondola was the leader of the Shining Path. The same thing applies to the criminal gangs in the hood. At the end of the day, even Epstein was a disposable flunkie of the ultra-rich that they didn't hesitate to assassinate. Same sort of shit applies to serial killers like Bill Picton. Follow the money. It's this kind of shit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Tufton_Street . Don't you think billionaires would have a motivation for painting Nazism as something that poor minorities and atheists do rather than rich white Evangelicals? It's always the respectable white-collar Nazis which are more of a threat than the freaks and the poor. They want you to think white power is the drug-addled toothless crazy homosexuals rather than Obama and Biden. This is not to support the lumpenbourgeoisie. In no way should we support the pimps and other predators. But the billionaire is always more of a threat than the gangbanger.
If somebody is a gay transgender brown/latino, what should they do to not become a nazi ?
>>2523604We have fascists who uphold the revisionist line within this very thread. I have brought direct evidence of their crimes so we all have tools to defeat fascist patsocs.
>>2523628Incorrect. Yesterday we had fascists excusing themselves of their deviation and betrayal of Communism. I responded shorthandedly when they must be destroyed completely, so today I explicate further in refutation of this patsoc revisionist party.
>>2523726What do you think about the line of your party not "abolishing the senate as such?" "As such" means literally "as it is." Like your patsoc party, are you also in favor of not abolishing the senate, "reforming it" by v00ting? Are you, like your party, also in favor of bourgeois bicameral government over the unicameral form of all existing Communist dictatorship?
>>2523751A lot of this stuff is bored rich assholes playing "The Purge" with minorities.
https://maia.crimew.gay/posts/brg is semi-relevant. Like we know drug operations are deeply woven into the military and intelligence operations. Definitely read Seth Harp's "The Fort Bragg Drug Cartel." Anyhow the capitalists are attempting to paint "trantifa" as nihilistic violent extremism right now.
https://www.wired.com/story/heritage-foundation-uses-bogus-stat-to-push-a-trans-terrorism-classification https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terrorist . So this is all very suspicious. It's kind of like how they're attempting to pin drug crimes on Venezuela and previously Canada. It's very much alphabet tactics to disrupt minority communities with gangs and Nazi schizo cults like Wahhabism. Same shit applies to Latin America. I do believe that the alphabet boys deliberately target autistic and transgender communities.
>>2523624that professor is facing serious prosecution in the US. people is sending threatening letter to Rutgers (professor's university, where he works), and he tried to leave the country, but american airlines cancelled his flight without any reason or whatsoever.
dark times to be
the antifa in chief in the US.
>>2523757Suck more dick? Or maybe suck less? Idk
>>2523772You cant make this shit up. ICE are just plain retards.
>>2523791the new york post is so laughable
who do you support in the burger wars ice or your local police department ?
>>2523808The police because they are proles in a union.
>>2523808I support the Frog Horde myself
>>2523787They started tear gassing cops too.
Yknow I vaguely remember hearing anecdotes about there being some tension between the brownshirts and the cops in the early days of Hitler’s rule cause the brownshirts would essentially just shove their nose in the cops business and make arrests more chaotic, but this is just straight up “brownshirts beat the shit out of the police for laughs.”
Kind of cautiously hoping this can lead to further marginalization of ICE and the Trump Admin and lead to his policies being near impossible to enforce.
woke up and found the USA still going strong
yet LEFTYPOL keeps screaming about its collapse
shame
>>2523819That cartoon is satanic
>>2523818>Kind of cautiously hoping this can lead to further marginalization of ICE and the Trump Admin and lead to his policies being near impossible to enforce.
>let me hope, without needing historical evidence, that the kind of shit that drove Germany down the road to Nazism doesn’t turn into another Nazi Germany.it won't happen.
the problem is that you people still take unseriously the situation you are in. just because libs make fools out of themselves by saying that anything rethuglican is fascist while demokkkraps aren't, doesn't mean you mustn't take seriously the real dangers.
>>2523821the collapse will be long and agonizing. rome style.
>>2523826Well, can it hurry up?
>>2523826There won't be a collapse the US will just steadily turn into morlocks
why is LaRouche such a boogeyman in leftist US politics?
>>2523706the ceasefire didnt even last a day before the zionist entity broke it, this is so fucking depressing, man
>>2523832Well for one thing the dude was a professional wrecker with schizophrenic politics that changed depending on who was paying attention to him
>>2523819It gets better. Apparently ICE have been doing the equivalent of prank calling the police by calling 911 if they see protesters and demanding the police arrest them. If the cops get between ICE and the protesters? ICE just attacks the cops to get the protesters.
In LA in particular, it seems like a lot of the LAPD are Latino, I noticed at the previous No Kings protest a couple of them waved at the protesters, one even honked his car horn along with some of the other cars. If it’s possible to drive a wedge between ICE and the cops, I’d say that’s a good thing.
Shit, try and drive a wedge between ICE and the rest of the feds. Trump is apparently looking at ways to keep ICE and the BP paid while the rest of the Feds aren’t getting shit during the shutdown. Remind them of that. Stoke the flames.
>>2523843Not trying to be an asshole but what does the CPUSA ever do?
>>2523819The ultimate irony of cops vs ICE is that the cops are already an organized and militarized force of the kind the proletariat should be, so they are in a better position to resist ICE in addition to having the clear incentive.
The admiral who leads southern command suddenly quit for unknown reasons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Southern_Command
>The United States Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM), located in Doral in Greater Miami, Florida, is one of the eleven unified combatant commands in the United States Department of Defense. It is responsible for providing contingency planning, operations, and security cooperation for Central and South America, the Caribbean (except in Territories of the United States), their territorial waters, and for the force protection of U.S. military resources at these locations. USSOUTHCOM is also responsible for ensuring the defense of the Panama Canal and the canal area.[8]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Holsey>>2523832mainly because of his lunacy, and some of his associates turned out to be cia/fbi operatives (informants) who also were far-right people, like roy frankhouser (a literal spook).
in the US is very rare that one communist organization isn't infiltrated by spooks. probably the "Antifa" is filled with spooks. so it's hard to build trust around these movements.
>>2523845Work with labor unions, attends strikes and protests, hosts workshops on Marxist education and activism, mutual aid, and art collectives off the top of my head.
>>2523854See you in 200 years when that works
>>2523789fukn_slammer posts on leftypol?
>>2523629they're calling his jugular Nordstream 3
What are you smoking no way cops are going to "side with antifa"
>>2523866Libs will be like "No kings! Hands off Bolton! Hands off NATO! Hands off USAID!"
2 hours until the NYC mayoral debatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=133Gqfx1YdgWill be on the cytube when it goes live
>>2523865Cops are part of a system that enforces capitalism but individual cops are capable of failing that role because people are, well, people. Could be anything from a Latino cop getting called a beaner by some ICE cunt to being tear gassed by them.
Point is don’t expect them as an institution to become anti-ICE, but tensions between them can be beneficial regardless.
>>2523848>>2523849>>2523859Bro didn't want to be the one to get embarassed by a botched Venezuelan invasion, calling it now.
>>2523832I don't know if he's such a bogeyman. More of an obscure figure at this point. I don't know if most leftists have ever heard of him, but an interesting story of a leftist mutating into a fascist, kind of like ᴉuᴉlossnW except not successful.
LaRouche was a middle-aged guru who attracted a following among New Left types in the late 60s. He was a somewhat odd sort of Trotskyist type. From what I can tell, a lot of his early followers were grad students at elite universities. They adopted a highly sectarian approach to the left and then mutated in the 1970s into a cult that was like half-activist group/half-glow private intelligence firm that provided intelligence on the left to corporations and government intelligence agencies. They also started seeing potential allies among the right-wing militia types and sent their members to crazy, glowed-out weapons training camps (look up Mitchell WerBell) to prepare for some looming apocalyptic battle with the forces of darkness.
LaRouche had this belief that "left" and "right" didn't make sense, what counts is whether you're on the side of Plato or Aristotle who are supposedly engaged in an ongoing psychological battle to see who defines the way we perceive reality. It's an incredibly complex vision that appeals to people who consider themselves intellectuals (which has some overlap with people who become communists). They would mutate a lot in their positions, or adopt contradictory ideas. Like they opposed the Solidarity movement in Poland and lauded the state of martial law there, while at the same time believed the Soviets were hellbent on world domination and the U.S. needed to develop anti-missile beam weapons to stop the Soviets and prepare to destroy the USSR with a full-on onslaught of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. Very anti-drug as well, and also pushed a campaign to throw gays in concentration camps because of AIDS.
Their peak was in the 1980s when they developed a following and LaRouche ran for president a few times before going to prison on fraud charges. The other twist is that he'd run as a Democrat in the primaries, but would get around 1% of the vote in the primaries. But they aimed a lot of messaging at people who now listen to Alex Jones.
>>2523870I mean that's an isolated incident that got blown out of proportion by liberals. I wish as well but don't think it'll happen
And LA cops are notoriously bad, with police "gangs"
>>2523848>>2523859>>2523849>>2523873probably because he was a "DEI hire"? must have his face shaved and he couldn't withstand the pimples after shaving?
>>2523866Trump finally does something good for a change. Neocon piece of shit had it coming for decades now
>>2523848>>2523849from the NYT
>It was unclear why Admiral Holsey is leaving now, less than a year into his tenure, and in the midst of the biggest operation in his 37-year career. But one of the U.S. officials, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters, said that Admiral Holsey had raised concerns about the mission and the attacks on the alleged drug boats. >Major General William Hank Taylor the commanding general of the U.S. Eighth Army stationed in South Korea, revealed that he uses ChatGPT to assist in making key command decisions, influencing choices that impact thousands of troops
>“Chat and I have become really close lately,” Taylor said during a media roundtable Monday, though he shied away from giving examples of personal use.
>>2523907why is he saying percent. it's not a percent. it's the number of children born by a woman on average. there's no need for the word percent. God he is retarded. He is admitting something though. That people aren't being paid enough to raise more than 1 or 2 children. Which means the available labor power will either fail to grow or even shrink in the coming generation. A decrease in the supply of workers means an increase in their demand. But capitalists will not want to decrease profits by paying higher wages to see to it that their demand is met. So they outsource jobs or give jobs to desperate impoverished people migrating from the periphery who are willing to work for lower wages. Porky sees no way out of this crisis except to destroy abortion, birth control, contraception, and sex education, and hope that enough women unwillingly become pregnant as to increase the population. Porky wants to institute mass rape and forced impregnation to resolve the intergenerational labor shortage, in short.
>>2523832because, predictably, in his quasi-fascism he abandoned all fundamentals of marxism and only kept some vague trappings, while collaborating with feds and other anti-communists, and generally pushing a wildly obfuscationist ideology
so your question is phrased wrong, he isnt a "bogeyman" because that suggests thay laroucheists are not actual enemies of communists. they are and they chose to be
>>2523907Shut up RFK Jr and legalise MDMA & psychedelics that's the only good thing that can happen out of that
>>2523854>Work with labor unions, attends strikes and protests, hosts workshops on Marxist education and activism, mutual aid, and art collectives off the top of my head.>>2523855>See you in 200 years when that worksIt would work if leftists were actually concerned with building momentum. It seems we temporarily have some kind of popular trend in that direction, but it never seems to keep growing for long, especially in America.
The Bernie wave happened in 2016. Then in 2018 we got the handful of members of the squad. Now it's all the way to 2025 and we finally got like the next politician that anyone is excited about. Fucking crazy. I know there have been some leftist politicians getting in that never get talked about at the lower tiers of local government, just like Mamdani already was, but nobody heard about him until the mayoral primary.
If we could keep the ball rolling it wouldn't have to take 200 years.
>>2523917except nothing can solve the birthrate issue except through societal change and it will be either fascism or socialism
>>2523924>will be either fascism That’s just liberalism with a different coat of paint.
>or socialismCommunism it is then.
>>2523924It's not even an issue if you're ready to forego some treats in order to care for the elderly. The chauvinists are just seething about their nation economy and military being slightly reduced.
>>2523919One of the only times you have ever seen MLs and Trots working together was when both CPUSA and WWP were under constant threat of nunchuck attacks from Larouchites during an NYC mayoral election
honkoid status?
>>2523926The elderly control most of the wealth in the country. Why can't they just share it among themselves? Why would we need to be the ones who give something up to take care of them? WTF?
Honestly boomer genocide.
>>2523929uhm that's genpol sweetie now give up your avocado toast so that a 70 year old can buy his third boat and pay for medication
>>2523926why are you replying to a thread about birth rates by talking about the care of the elderly? There is definitely a connection between the two (a shrinking population means fewer people who will get jobs caring for the elderly, which means a more abandoned elderly population) but I digress. you don't seem to be talking about that. your reply seems to be a total non sequitur that has nothing to do with what came before it.
>>2522962The DSSA literally and explicitly exists to destroy the left and always has.
>>2523925>That’s just liberalism with a different coat of paint.not exactly, fascism is just as much a rejection of liberal (elite led) society as it was a rejection of (worker led) socialism. It would be accurate to describe fascism as a mass movement from below, which has the capability of creating a society with positive birthrates as opposed to liberal society
>>2523926the entire pension scheme is predicated on the belief that there will be 4 workers for every 1 old person drawing benefits, so capitalism starts breaking if nobody has kids
>>2523924>the birthrate issue except through societal*economical
>>2523931Low birthrate was framed as an issue so I iust said it wasn't one because the only pressure it adds on society can easily be managed.
>>2523929Old people are the enemy. As people start having less kids the Elderly electorate dwarves the young vote. the young people will be made to slave away and sacrifice everything for the old people
>>2523929tbf any 3 generational cohorts will probably look like this in an imperial core country. As boomers die off gen Xers will inherit their wealth, and so on. the key is to abolish inheritance altogether.
>>2523930genpol is stupid because it's another form of idpol. Yes people are generally speaking products of their time and there are conflicts of interests between age cohorts, but the "generations" as we conceive of them popularly are completely arbitrary creations of marketing weirdos.
take for example millenials. the youngest millenials were born to Gen X parents and have no memory of 9/11. The oldest millenials were born to boomer parents and were adults when 9/11 happened. Why is that treated as the same age cohort? Because someone drew arbitrary brackets around an arbitrary range of years. In Communism inheritance will be abolished and along with it generational wealth gaps. People often suck up to their reactionary parents until they die hoping for a slice of that sweet sweet inheritance, and even fight their siblings over it. It's the real economic source of a lot of so called "genpol." Also consider how in capitalism people are taught to aspire to escape the proletarian rat race and achieve petty bourgeois stability. This is considered a rite of passage in America that comes with age. Americans are taught you start off prole and you're supposed to get a family by 30 and escape proletarian rat race by 40 and become moderately wealthy home owner with mortgage paid off by 50. That entire timeline is part of the American dream mythology that exists independent of generation, but where you are along that ideal timeline determines your material interests, and it is what is responsible for what has the surface appearance of immutable generational characteristics but is in essence the rate of change in the person as they age and climb the petty bourgeois ladder, prodded along by imperial core propaganda.
>>2523934>It would be accurate to describe fascism as a mass movement from below, If by "accurate" you mean "wrong" then yeah
>>2523935It's societal too. What will be the next role in society for men, if they do not live under a patriarchal system that expects and encourages them to own a wife and a family to pass down an inheritance?
>>2523943hitler believed in primacy of the state over private interests, this is fundamentally illiberal
>>2523942>tbf any 3 generational cohorts will probably look like this in an imperial core country. As boomers die off gen Xers will inherit their wealth, and so on. the key is to abolish inheritance altogether.The graph shows what percentage of the nation's wealth each cohort held at equal ages.
But yeah, the boom booms can't take it with them when they die. Also boomers don't necessarily have gen X kids. I am in the second half of the millennial cohort and both my parents are boomers. Yeah I will get all that boomer wealth when I am 50 something probably.
>>2523942except that chart outright shows that people at similar ages are making less and less income, are you blind? If boomers were inheriting enough wealth to make up 35-ish% of the nation's wealth in their 40's then the Gen X'ers would also be up at tha,t but they're down at almost 15%.
Pretending that the mentality of a 20 year old in 1960 and 2025 is the same is just stupid.
NYC mayoral debate in 1 hour
>>2523942>take for example millenials. the youngest millenials were born to Gen X parents and have no memory of 9/11. The oldest millenials were born to boomer parents and were adults when 9/11 happened. Why is that treated as the same age cohortYes of course RL is a gradient but you can still see the trends. You make cohorts because you have to subdivided it somehow. You could make the descriptions more perfect by subdividing them into small cohorts, but then it becomes more unwieldy.
>>2523951well yeah but even then the differences are in the decay of US imperialism and not in the generations themselves. like boomers were just lucky and got born in the postwar boom. we were unlucky and got born after all the privatization, austerity, rollbacks of worker protections, etc. it's not a young vs. old once you consider that we are in a similar position as the great-great-grandparents of the boomers who were adults in the gilded age.
>>2523957It's not like someone is arguing that there is some essential metaphysical boomerism quality or that people who are Young are always at war with The Old but the positions people have been through in life does matter and can set them at odds with each other.
>>2523954is anyone gonna screen record or yt-dlp and get the cringe/kino highlights?
>>2523947it's more complicated than that, try read "Free to Obey: How the Nazis Invented Modern Management " by Johann Chapoutot, it's m
>>2523957>>2523957Boomers grew up in a time when people still had to pay taxes and shit. Then when the boomers grew up they said "
FUCK TAXES!"
>>2523960Yes, that's true.
I think of a passage from blackshirts and reds where Parenti quotes a nazi stage play where a young nazi rejects the labor struggles of his grandfather and says they had their place but are no longer relevant.
>>2523964it's funny that so called "radicals" like sanders want to increase the corporate tax rate to…. not even what it was when reagan was elected
>>2523963no, it's really not. Hitler says in September 1937:
>Business is one of the many functions in the life of the nation and can therefore only be organized and directed under considerations of
expediency and never treated according to dogma. As a dogma there is
neither a socialist economy nor a free economy, there is only a committed
economy, in other words an economy which has the overall obligation
of providing a nation with the highest and best living conditions. In as
far as it fulfils this task without any direction from above, only out of
the free play of forces, all the better, and above all very pleasant for the
government. In as far as it is no longer able to fulfil its task as a free
economy in some specific area, the leadership of the national community
has the obligation to give the economy those directions which are
necessary in the interest of the preservation of the whole. But when in
one or the other area an economy is completely incapable of solving the
great tasks it has been set, then the leadership of the national community
will have to look for other ways and means with which to satisfy the requirements of the community.
fml i hate pdfs
>>2523964the poor are indirectly taxed through inflation btw. if you ignore the lower corporate tax rates, the lower capital gains tax, and you look at the real stagnation or even decrease of real wages accompanied by the decrease of the purchasing power of those wages, you can see that inflation is effectively a tax. MMT people say "taxes don't pay for social services" as a sort of rhetorical justification for expanding them, but then imperialists get to turn around and say "lol then taxes don't pay for war crimes either." but really if money printer go brr causes purchasing power to decrease, then it doesn't matter that you didn't tax people directly. you taxed them indirectly by decreasing their purchasing power.
>>2523969if I copy paste from a PDF I paste it in a word editor first and remove the newlines with find and replace. there are also online tools that will do it automatically
>>2523968ok but he didn't really increase the living conditions of the nation. he just declared half the nation not true germans, made them slaves, used them as slaves until they were starving, gassed them, and then got the TRVE GERMAN ARYANS killed in a multi front war he started. then he blew his brains out lol.
>>2523972true, but more worryingly is fascist germany had a positive birthrate until they started ww2. should a nation reinvent fascism and they solve the birthrates, they're gonna outcompete everyone else on the planet long term through the sheer amount of people and labor power
>>2523927i guess i gotta hand it to larouche that he did the possible and united the left
>>2523977*impossible
blessed freudian slip, were gonna make it
>>2523976fascism doesnt have a long-term. it consumes itself long before any kind of demographic base can rise up.
>>2523929>Zoomers are castroti slave caste of baby boomer and gen xersThis explains all the anti-millenial posting on /v/
a better song politically is Sunny Afternoon by the Kinks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIl6n_SRCI ". Like its contemporary "Taxman" by the Beatles, the song references the high levels of progressive tax taken by the British Labour government of Harold Wilson, although it does so through the lens of an unsympathetic aristocrat bemoaning the loss of his vast unearned wealth"
>>2523981when confronted with fascism, bourgeois liberalism is weak. only socialism can outcompete fascism and it exists only in a few countries
>>2523979It's called reform and opening up bucko
>>2523980I remember reading a book about led zeppelin and they make a big deal and talk a lot about having to leave england and live overseas to not have to pay taxes
>>2523979>1 for you 19 for methese hairy hippie retards actually acting like 19/20 of their enormous income was being taken lmfao
>>2523979The looney lefties were busy with drugs and sexxx while the smart rightoids hijacked politics, economy and culture.
It’s the same today. Contrapoints was so successful in ‘deradicalising’ r the alt-right that Trump is serving his second term and the alt-right has become mainstream. There is no need to go on 4chan anymore, you can just go on twitter. 90% of breadtubers turned out to be narcissistic losers.
Thank you for your attention on this matter!
>>2523998Lib-on-lib violence televised
>>2524004Remember the black-blue/white-gold dress?
Eliminate Mehdi Hassan, Destiny and Contrapoints and fascism will disappear by itself.
>>2524017What does hurst mean?
>>2524039Money to Argentina and not to building the NJ-NY tunnel!
>>2523942>As boomers die off gen Xers will inherit their wealth, and so on.Boomer wealth will be vacuumed up by the medical industry and retirement homes.
>>2524045Based. Helping the third world browns of South Mexico instead of gibbing treat-tunnels to amerinazis
>>2524047GenZ will bring Nazism to the US. A cursed generation Fr Fr
HAVE YOU DENOUNCED HASAN PIKER????
>>2524059i saw that. isg in real life. so sad.
What did bordiga think if the Lakota people?
>>2524088 (me)
Shit. I meant that for isg. Isg and usapol have become indistinguishable
Holy shit did that woman just call Zohran a slur?!
Did i hear this right?!?!?
>>2524024He couldn't handle the thiccness band became a reactionary
GLD value is astronomical right now. Regional banks are buckling. The sun is setting.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/16/us-regional-bank-stocks-fallthe absolute cuckery of mamdani in this debate lol. questions like "how would you convince a CEO to move to NYC from Dallas" and Mamdani doesn't even reject the premise of the question but actually looks into the camera and says high quality of life is a good reason for a CEO to move somewhere. No it isn't. A CEO needs desperate poor working class people willing to get hired for shit wages. FUCK I HATE THIS CUCK SO MUCH
>>2524113emotional retard
>Here's why Mamdani has to be a liberal cuck to win:
>>2524113Calm down you histrionic weirdo
>Government share: In 2021, the government's $182.5 billion in food aid spending was over 95% of the estimated total.
>Non-government share: The charitable sector's total contribution likely amounted to less than 5% of all food assistance when compared against the government's spending.
Thought this was a really funny point I was getting into with Bossignostic/Bloodgasm. He was saying that the Marxist position was that of charity organizations to provide food aid to the populace. Did you know that the government actually provides 95% of the food aid to the populace? I thought we as Marxists weren't of the opinion that NGO charities aren't the best way to feed the people, but I guess I need to say it.
>>2524117It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad that people can see the evidence right there that the voters want left wing policies, and then they talk about how Mamdani has to cave on key issues to appeal to the mythical moderate republican voters.
>>2524122> I thought we as Marxists weren't of the opinion that NGO charities aren't the best way to feed the people, but I guess I need to say it.double negative accidentally*
>>2524122>I thought we as Marxists weren't of the opinion that NGO charities aren't the best way to feed the peoplethey never were. is it bloodgasm really in favor of this? as opposition to what? to wait someday that the US government decides to go into socialism?
>>2524116>>2524119the question should be rejected on principle. "I don't want tech CEOs coming here. they don't create jobs, they just waste all our water and electrcity on generative AI that isn't even profitable, doesn't produce goods, and gets subsidized with our tax dollars."
It's such an easy question to reject and you won't even sound scary rejecting it.
>>2524122I mean, really, advocating for charity orgs? Did you know Christians have been doing that bullshit as long as they've existed? It's a millennia old idea that solves nothing. We've all found in the modern world it would be better for the government that we all pay taxes to, to provide that.
>>2524122>>2524126>>2524129(samefag)
Nobody advocated NGO charities. For a revolutionary movement to win it has to establish logistics that can keep people alive and rally support. You were just arguing for voting and doing nothing else.
<Just as Darwin discovered the law of development of organic nature, so Marx discovered the law of development of human history: the simple fact, hitherto concealed by an overgrowth of ideology, that mankind must first of all eat, drink, have shelter and clothing, before it can pursue politics, science, art, religion, etc. >>2524123literally sliwa, who I don't even like, hit it out of the park way more than mamdani did and sounded more left on the question of prostitution. sliwa said (paraphrasing) "don't arrest the prostitutes, arrest the johns, arrest the pimps who exploit the women, arrest the landlords who own the building where the prostitution is happening." meanwhile mamdani spent the whole question backing away from his previous cooperation with DSA to decriminalize sex work, which cuomo used to attack him.
>>2524131Sliwa was most left wing on a number of key issues including
housing which is crazy. He wanted to appropriate and repurpose empty offices into low cost apartments lol.
neoliberals on bluesky unanimously agree zohran won the debate so idk what this hysterical anon is smoking
>>2524130>Nobody advocated NGO charities. For a revolutionary movement to win it has to establish logistics that can keep people alive and rally support. You were just arguing for voting and doing nothing else.Define "logistics" lmao.
Jesus Christ, you are hippies but stupider.
>>2524118young boys aged 35
>>2524130nah, brah, you missed that samefagging. but ok.
>that mankind must first of all eat, drink, have shelter and clothing, before it can pursue politics, science, art, religion, etc.keep in mind that extreme poverty in the US is very low.
cuomo surging on polymarket rn
it's zohver
>>2524144zohran meltdown during live debate
>>2524146anything is possible in fantasy land
>>2524130>Nobody advocated NGO charities. For a revolutionary movement to win it has to establish logistics that can keep people alive and rally support. You were just arguing for voting and doing nothing else.You gonna follow up on this?
>7:50 p.m.: "Jews don't trust that you are going to be there for them when they are victims of anti-Semitic attacks," Sliwa continued, referring to Mamdani.
this is the dude you're glazing?
>>2524146melty melty melty?
>>2524149nobody's glazing sliwa. all 3 of them are tripping over their shoelaces to prove how much they hate hamas and how much they think israel has a right to exist
>>2524150Huh?
>>2524147That is what makes it so boring and why schizos are boring.
>>2524152The only schizos are the antis who have no plan other than wishcraft.
Uphold Bloodgasm thought.
>>2524149sliwa is ML and has praised hamas
>>2524158what good has bg ever done
>>2524152>Huh?meant to respond to
>>2524145 my bad
>>2524158ah. so come to /usapol/ to bitch about china and russia and refuse to go into /ukr/ and /prc/
>>2524163oh yeah? how are the naxals doing?
>>2524164Lies, heathen. Bloodgasm has consistently held up true Marxist-Leninist-Maoist thought up on this platform for a decade. Show some respect.
>>2524149Silwa isn't based it's just very fucking funny that the republican has certain policies that are to the left of the socdem.
>>2524169It's also evidence of how far to the left the voters have moved and why it's stupid to capitulate while running as the supposedly farthest left possible candidate.
>>2524169>Silwa isn't based it's just very fucking funny that the republican has certain policies that are to the left of the socdem.Such as?
It's funny how the average /leftypol/ user is motivated to come out against Mamdani and also call him an antisemite. Ask these people their opinion on Mamdani and their opinion on AIPAC.
>of course Hamas should lay down their armszhoran mandani.
>>2524176nta, but he has a red beret. how funny is that also Thomas Sankara wore one? obviously communist Pan-African aesthetics not seen in any succdem or radlib.
These same people who come out against Mamdani here for anti-semitism are all the same hasbara "ohh you think the jooz control politics?" posters. Very curious.
>>2524181Did he say this pls no
>>2524182Jews don't control politics, I do
Now what the fuck is going on here because so far I'm so happy that happened, or so sorry you had to go through that because I ain't reading all this shit
>>2524185It's always funny when you randomly show up in this thread tanki Ukie Jew poster. You post 99% of your posts in the Ukr thread but you always show up ITT when I mention Jews. You are a 40 something Ukie Jew who lives on disability in Canada.
>>2524183yup. with context. honestly, he should have double down on NYC issues. at least deflecting the question would have been less embarrassing.
something Hamas never agreed, and now trump and zionists are using as an excuse to resume their shitty genocide.
>>2524189Cannuck Uki Jew* sorry for missing your backstory. You moved to Canada at 6 years old with tears in your eyes because you wished you could've staid in Ukraine, but you won't move back there. I'm tired of your clown ass. You are honestly the worst clown character on this board.
>>2524189>>2524192Take your fuckin’ meds you weird fucker
>>2524193Shut your bitch ass up. I know what I'm talking about.
>>2524191>all parties should put down their weaponsSo is he saying Israel should be disarmed too? Who is the answer supposed to appease? For a guy who is supposed to be an expert at threading the needle this is a bad answer.
>>2524194I mean it's been years of this shit over and over again.
>>2524132>>2524131damn, it'd be crazy if he wins, mfw
>>2524192>>2524189rent free.
>>2524194I don’t care to find out because it sounds like some meaningless bullshit for terminally online losers. Grow up.
>>2524191He means lay down as in hide their arms and increase their stockpiles until the moment is right
>>2524198Why don't you faggot?
>>2524197>rent free.Faggot.
>>2524202>be told to grow up>respond with a cartoon character reaction image defensivelyfaggot.
>>2524203Oh you’re that guy who’s actively trying to make the board worse because you have a chip on your shoulder
>>2524204Yeah I'm that guy. Faggot, I'll detach your neck from your spine. Cool your brakes homie.
>>2524204do you condemn david north yes or no
>>2524207Yeah, neither are you faggot.
>>2524209I don’t care about him because he is irrelevant
>>2524211>melting down because you can’t intimidate someone on an imageboardKek
>>2524213I'm cool. I'm saying you are a useless faggot who only exists in online spaces. You already excepted you can't compete IRL.
>>2524195this doesnt mean disarmament? it's literally just the meaning of ceasefire
>>2524214zohran stumbled hard over a question about prostitutes being allowed near schools and now cuomo is surging on all the betting markets
>>2524215>You already excepted you can't compete IRL.*accepted.
>>2524218I've looked all over polymarket and he is solid. obviously Hamas/Zionism/Gaza/Palestine isn't an electoral issue, and whatever Sliwa said wasn't good enough.
or, polymarket is waiting for the polls to come out.
That's right. I live in the real world and in the real world I can easily detach your nerve center from your body. You aren't shit. If I thought you were shit that opposed you I could and potentially would kill you easily. I'll put slugs through your brain matter. You aren't shit. You don't live in the same real world me and the rest of the people live in.
"But these internet weirdos will lead the peoples and shit" No you won't. I'll kill you motherfucker whenever you rear your pathetic head.
>>2524235>>2524233I rarely say this, specially because ameriburgers are usually on meds, but
MEDS, now.
>>2524236I've been on meds. It's real shit, I'll kill you too faggot. It ain't a game. You are a dumb faggot and we'll kill you too.
It's funny, all these people are self-proclaimed loons. They say the rest of us are the same loons and we must self-medicate as they do. LMAO I'll kill your loon ass.
>>2524239You don't even know whether you are a man or a woman.
Melting down… I am fine. I just think it's funny that 90% of you are transgender.
>>2524242You and I both know what you are.
>>2524240>believing Twitter maymays <I live in the real worldFuckin’ kek
>>2524245I am fine. You are the ones always contemplating suicide. I've talked many of you losers out of it in my decade on /leftypol/
>>2524245I don't engage with twitter. You are all suicidal gender queen losers.
>>2523973Shining Path glowies
I saved Houdini from suicide when no one else was there for them. Show some respect.
>>2524249>GEEEEEENNNDDDDEEEEEEEEEERRRRRHoly fuck you are losing it aaaahahahaha
>>2524251Bitch you would kill yourself without my intercession.
You are all so pathetic. I wish you the best. I wish you could create some alternative framework that doesn't rely upon myself.
>>2524254IDK I’m pretty sure having nowhere to troll would make you kill yourself my good bitch
>>2524257I'm good. I just worry about you losers. My life is guaranteed good regardless. You are the ones at risk of the horrors.
>>2524258I don't give a fuck what you think, your opinion has no affect over my material circumstance. I'm good regardless.
Lol you faggots have nothing to say once you realize I'm above you materially no matter what faggot shit you say.
>>2524237>weyour 9 different personas living in your schizo head alongside the lpol posters you have living rent free isn't
we. stop attention whoring.
>>2524265Aight dumb bitch, it still stands I have millions of dollars in wealth and you have negative. Good luck to you.
>>2524267Honeslty I can't find a reason to have any sympathy for you losers.
>>2524267>Aight dumb bitch, it still stands I have millions of dollars in wealth and you have negative. Good luck to you.Nothing to say ehh faggot? I'll stomp your lights out or I'll pay someone to do it.
>>2524266
COME BACK, I MISS YOU, I NEVER REALIZED HOW BAD THE OTHER TROLLS ARE….
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>>2524275>>2524243why do rightoids always assume the demographic of whoever they're arguing with online with zero proof. it's so stupid.
>>2524267you're rich but still unhappy? maybe kys
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