/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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>>2524275
DO YOU CONDEMN HAMASHASAN, /LEFTYPOL/???

libs be libing.

>>2524295
dumbasscracy dies in doodoo o algo

>>2524297
it died of an old age.

>>2524311
her words knocked him over.

>>2524314
he slipped on the ICE question.

I wondered if everyone who was going to protest knew the madman wanted a repeat of the summer of George Floyd and that his agent agitators need new agitprop since the old became stale and regime is trying to justify and normalize martial law. hen I saw the no kings organizers had de-escalation training so I guess they understand optics. The best thing is to disarm them with a plurality that illustrates their hypocrisy while retaining a sense of humor, like the pastor to the mascots getting pepper shot and illegally detained by the untrained. Lastly, trial jury is the last protection which can be somewhat restorative of democracy and human rights. Its nemesis is the court of public opinion where propaganda is concerned, where the elite few frame the narratives. Telling the truth, then, is the truly revolutionary act. Be creative in how you do it pls.

>>2524343
You're not supposed to mix legal and illegal tactics as an individual you retard that just makes it easier to create a paper trail and mass arrest your collaborators. You're supposed to pick one and work in parallel with the other.

I mean, if you fellow burgers want to go, go, but wear red and co-opt that shi.

>>2524348
>You're not supposed to mix legal and illegal tactics as an individual you retard that just makes it easier to create a paper trail and mass arrest your collaborators.
Iron Felix is almost certainly a Fed, so that's his very intention.

>>2524354
I thought the yellow came from a Tony Orlando song and was co-opted by the families of hostages in Iran in '79? It's as if the modern world fell into a crisis of creativity overall which keeps getting progressively worse. Damnit, now I need a palate cleanser… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngYwXvdgrrM

>>2524354
Also that retarded meme is not why you wear yellow, you wear yellow or other high visibility clothing so everybody can see everybody and know immediately if someone falls down or anything else especially in the dark

You're not obliged to unless you're literally carrying a first aid kit and volunteering to be the first to be targeted with chemical warfare rubber bullets if the security forces get feisty

Actually there's orange and other more reddish shades of high viz, suggest smart comrades wear that if they want to wear high vis;

If you just want to tank the tear gas and pepper spray while people run away, maybe consider disposable yellow high vis, high vis construction helmets etc

>>2524354
If you want to filter people, show up rocking something that says "No Gods, No Kings, No Masters"

bad news: murka will attack venezuela

good news: it will fail due to AI hallucination

>>2524354
Gently counter protest these people from the left by pointing out that the sacred institutions either helped trump get into power or have been utterly useless at stopping it. And that this is the second time.

>>2524368
Just apply some patches of hi viz duct tape. Can get it at a dollar store.

>>2524372
Kakistocracy will fail on every front. Well, except for torturing and killing innocent people. I think they consider that a win and if enough people buy it, but then if kakistocracy wins we won't deserve to survive as a species.

>>2524354
Oh they want to be zionists, this country is lost fr

so zohran condomned hummus and they still gave him shit over it. shock gasp who could have seen this coming

cybertruck more like cyberfuck

>>2524404
>>2524405
we are reaching retardation levels that shouldn't be possible

>>2524416
of all the dumb shit people do, i dont think "people pretend cute dog has opinions and an important job" is really so bad

HACKERS DOXED HUNDREDS OF FEDS THE NEWS REPORTED http://archive.today/2025.10.17-041115/https://www.404media.co/hackers-dox-hundreds-of-dhs-ice-fbi-and-doj-officials/

Why would people be mad at free buses? Lol. I saw someone saying too "oh I notice the bus drivers often don't bother to collect the fairs and let people on" as if that was like a debunk of making the public transit free. C'mon this is a no-brainer. They gave 6 billion for the NYPD every year.

>>2524421
Well Iron Felix, time to meet your destiny

>>2524427
>I saw someone saying too "oh I notice the bus drivers often don't bother to collect the fairs and let people on" as if that was like a debunk of making the public transit free.
I saw that too and thought, well if that's the case, then why not make them free? It's not like it's collecting that much revenue in the first place. BTW, I watched a documentary about life in the USSR in the 80s, and buses in Moscow had a fare but it worked on an honor system, so you'd just thrown a coin into a tray, but you didn't have to. It seemed like it worked pretty well.

My experience with New York public transit was taking the subway, and you have to swipe your "MetroCard" in a reader to unlock the turnstyle. New Yorkers do it in a single effortless motion, so they don't stop at all, and just scan it and then go through the machine without stopping. But of course, me and friend were not from there, and he fucked it up, and it locked him out for 10 minutes (which is what it does), and a couple of cops immediately started shouting "JUST GO THROUGH. JUST GO THROUGH" in their really thick New York City accents. So I swiped my card and he went through with me. But even the cops know that it's better to "keep it moving." I mean we already paid for the card anyways. There's just too many fucking people there. I guess they're replacing them with scanners though which will be batter.

>>2524438
>I saw that too and thought, well if that's the case
Wait, that was Sliwa who said it in the debate right?

I grew up on the LA public transit. I rode it home everyday. The trains had no turnstiles. It was a purely honor system/luck of the draw if the transit cops would get on the train and check tickets. It was like 1 out of 10 or less. But I almost fucked over my friend. I randomly bumped into my from middle school I hadn't seen in years and I saw him at the ticket buying and I told him they never check tickets, and then they checked them on that ride. Luckily he didn't listen to my advice. I think it was a $100 something dollar ticket, despite the fact they never checked for them. It's such a fucking silly game. I had a free pass and still it wasn't worthwhile over driving. Jesus Christ just let it be free. At least the LA fares and passes were cheap. I was astonished how expensive the fares and passes were in other metros.

>>2524440
>Wait, that was Sliwa who said it in the debate right?
>Lol. I saw someone saying too "oh I notice the bus drivers often don't bother to collect the fairs and let people on" as if that was like a debunk of making the public transit free.
But anyone who has ever rode buses often knows this to be the case. They don't have some strict system for letting people on and the bus drivers don't care t o fight with you over the fair and fall behind schedule.

>>2524417
>people pretend cute dog has opinions and an important job
that's how they start, then they elect a dog as a mayor.

>>2524416
mate an octopus was calling the 2016 presidential election

>>2524346
There are like 1.3 million jews in NYC. That's a significant percentage of the population. Even though Contemporary Zionism = Clerical Fascism, you can't ignore them all.

>>2524404
>caring what an open neo-nazi thinks
just by giving this psycho bitch your attention, she's already won

>>2524427
>2025
>there's no free lunches
I bet michael kline jr doesn't care that the US has increased the military spending one dime since ever, like a bottomless pit.

>>2524440
And these people are like:
>If it was free! more homeless people would just ride them to sleep on them!
Like they can't provide people a preferable alternative to sleeping on the train. Jesus Christ. It's always all or nothing. Just give these motherfuckers a place to sleep before you worry about giving them tiny homes and shit.

But wouldn't free transit help to foment a less antagonist relationship between the citizenry and the government? When people are like "what does the government do for me?" The government could be like, "we let you get anywhere for free? Isn't that pretty cool?" How much would that really cost? Free Amtrak free local metro everywhere? WTF? How much do we spend bombing countries for Israel?

>>2524453
I mean, what does one extra person on a train cost materially? The real crime is empty public transit.

>>2524455
>I mean, what does one extra person on a train cost materially? The real crime is empty public transit.

<The electricity cost for one extra person on a light rail is very small, likely measured in fractions of a cent, and depends on factors like passenger weight, speed, and regenerative braking. A rough estimate suggests that one extra person adds a cost of approximately $0.00076 per mile, which translates to about $0.0019 per person-mile if accounting for some energy used for acceleration

And even in a metro system that doesn't have a low ridership issue, what does it really cost to add another train?

Why the fuck do we expect nothing from the government? Why do we accept all our money going to Israel?

>>2524458
Because the brainwashed see govt as something external to themselves and eternal in scope. To them, its purpose should be to keep their day-to-day lives stable and society's limits clearly defined. Government should keep the peace and stay out of the way. They want rules, boundaries, and protections that give them personally the "freedom" to act as they wish while restraining or removing those they dislike. Without class consciousness, humans do not see other humans as humans worthy of the same rights.

>>2524444
>check'em
hey, wasn't that octopus the one who correctly predicted the election results?

>>2524463
> Without class consciousness, humans do not see other humans as humans worthy of the same rights.
I don't know if I agree with it. I think proletarian people naturally have class consciousness, I think it only exists as a descriptor because those who had to come to it intellectually need to define it, whereas it was instinctive for those on the lesser end.

>>2524468
>I think proletarian people naturally have class consciousness
Yeah no. Many people don't want to be free, they want to be the slave masters.

>>2524469
Well that is not an issue of "class consciousness" then is it? The people are perfectly aware of their class.

>>2524417
to be fair I meant to rope in >>2524372 as well

>>2524473
https://xcancel.com/LauraLoomer/status/1979036525821136911
<@ZohranKMamdani with anti-American pro-animal abuse (and obviously Muslim) streamer Hasan Piker who said Americans deserved 9/11.

>>2524473
I don't care about any of this shit. Free Palestine. Amerikkkans deserve the worst.

>>2524478
Americans deserve the best.

>>2524473
lol

i need to start scoundrelmaxxing

in my pirate era

>>2524468
>I think proletarian people naturally have class consciousness

Lenin meanwhile said:
"We have said that there could not have been Social-Democratic[1] consciousness among the workers. It would have to be brought to them from without. The history of all countries shows that the working class, exclusively by its own effort, is able to develop only trade union consciousness, i.e., the conviction that it is necessary to combine in unions, fight the employers, and strive to compel the government to pass necessary labour legislation, etc. The theory of socialism, however, grew out of the philosophic, historical, and economic theories elaborated by educated representatives of the propertied classes, by intellectuals. By their social status the founders of modern scientific socialism, Marx and Engels, themselves belonged to the bourgeois intelligentsia. In the very same way, in Russia, the theoretical doctrine of Social-Democracy[1] arose altogether independently of the spontaneous growth of the working-class movement; it arose as a natural and inevitable outcome of the development of thought among the revolutionary socialist intelligentsia."
source: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ii.htm

[1] note this was before the split in the second international on the question of WW1 and social patriotism; before 1914 Communists were still called Social democrats.

>>2524485
Well tbf I exist in a time after communism and shit is widespread. It's not like everyone is an illiterate serf who never heard of it.

>>2524485
https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/periodicals/theoretical-review/1982301.htm

For Gramsci, the working class must, before actually exercising state power, attain leadership–that is, “establish its claim to be a ruling class in the political, cultural, and ’ethical’ fields.”[4] But for it to establish its claim to be a ruling class, the proletariat must first have become class conscious in the context of struggle for political power. Here Gramsci distinguishes between two phases in the process: first there is the corporate-economic phase in which the class identifies itself in terms of the corporate-economic interests of its integrated elements and as an economic group. Then there is the “purely political” phase in which the class realizes that its own economic interests, in their present and future development, go beyond the corporative circle of a mere economic group, and can and must become the interests of other oppressed groups. This is the purely political phase “which marks the passage from structure to the sphere of complex superstructures.”[5] At this point, when it becomes conscious of itself and its existence as a social class, the proletariat can then proceed to forge or develop a comprehensive world-view and advance a political programme allowing for its manifestation as a constituted political party playing a truly progressive and historical role and seeking to absorb other leading sections of the other oppressed groups and classes. At this point, in other words, the proletariat begins to engage in the struggle for social hegemony.

>>2524487
the barrier is not literacy, even with widespread literacy and lots of technology, the barrier is the inability of most people to filter out the bullshit and distractions.

What's the deal with "if you imagine life in America in 2025 was Russia in 1901?"

>>2524491
it's not the same, but a lot of the things Lenin said then are still true now. in fact it would seem to me that the American proletariat is falling shot even of trade union consciousness, let alone moving beyond that.

>>2524494
> in fact it would seem to me that the American proletariat is falling shot even of trade union consciousness, let alone moving beyond that.
Well why is that? Does anyone here try to raise that kind of consciousness in them? It seems to me everyone here and everywhere simply trails pop bourgeois culture.

>>2524496
I guess various shows have focused on various levels of the underclasses.

>>2524478
Especially American dogs.

>>2524498
Noooo! The doggies did nothing wrong! 🐶

>>2524468
I'd disagree but not for the reasons other posters did. Socialism, after the the early XX century, which is when the world had the closest thing to an organic working class socialist movement, doesn't really have a class conscious proletarian base to rely upon. In our context specifically, the working class has turned towards nihilism and reactionary attitudes, even in times of low wages and destitution, because with the globalization of every form of capital, there are no longer levers of power afforded to a national working class and most if not all opposition to the system is contained through extensive surveillance and sheepdogging. There's also a number of divisions in class society that socialists never really adapted to. We now have the PMC, a new corporate lumpenproletariat, a semi-proletanized petty bourgeoisie, service workers, all atomized and divided up into cultural swarms, all entrapped by capitalist politics of the culture war, in which compliance to one side or the other could very well have real effects on their hiring prospects, legal status, and reputation across the entire county and maybe even a good chunk of the world. This means that everyone is forced into a reactive position that is inherently detrimental to thought itself, much less an interest in developing a positive outlook or political movement. Things are more grim than they have ever been.

here's some nightmare material before you sleep

The strangest members of Trump’s inner circle have more power than they’ve ever had before

In rural Pennsylvania, I’m hiking through the forest with Simone and Malcom Collins and discussing the executive order they wrote for Donald Trump. Just outside their house — beyond the chicken coop, where they gather their eggs for homemade cakes, and the fenced-in part of the yard where their Corgi, The Professor, plays — is a forest, a small river, and some easy hiking trails. It’s a beautiful day in late spring, and among the greenery and the birdsong, we feel very far from Washington. Yet Simone and Malcolm are surprisingly influential in the Trump administration. I’m here to work out exactly how that happened.

It turns out that the executive order — the controversial “give out motherhood medals to women who’ve had six or more kids” one that caused such a stir recently — was actually written by Simone alone, with some help from AI. Malcolm manages their five-day-a-week podcast schedule, she explains, while she’s responsible for most of their written output. It makes sense to me that Simone would have been the decider on the medals, I say. After all, she’s the one who carries the children. It seems like she’d be the most opinionated on which number of offspring counts as medal-worthy. And of course, she wouldn’t have chosen five, since she’s already achieved that.

The Collinses are part of a small but growing movement known as “pronatalism” — the belief that society should actively encourage childbirth, often through incentives or cultural pressure, to stave off civilizational collapse. But they aren’t religious, and they don’t agree with forcing people to have children through rolling back reproductive rights or outright bribes. Instead, they are former Silicon Valley-based tech founders, who use polygenic analysis on their IVF embryos in an effort to select for advantageous traits. There’s some debate about whether the couple — with their bold, thick-rimmed glasses and their penchant for an edgy take — are fringe weirdos or credible commentators. One thing’s for sure: once you scratch the surface of their political connections, it’s clear they have a whole lot of influence for supposed fringe weirdos.

So how exactly does a pronatalist couple living in the countryside get their work on Donald Trump’s desk? The Collinses don’t like to talk specifics, but a little digging reveals that they have multiple points of connection with the current administration. For one thing, Malcolm’s brother Miles is in DOGE, the Elon Musk-founded “Department for Government Efficiency” which isn’t really a department. It is, instead, a group of people handpicked by Musk (who recently left the administration, publicly insulted Trump, then walked it all back) who work inside each sector of government, functioning as overseers. Miles and his wife, Brittany, are pronatalists themselves, though they’re much more private about it than Simone and Malcolm: they’ve never even publicly confirmed how many children they have. They’re also entrepreneurs, just like Malcolm and Simone, and they recently co-owned a series of fertility clinics.

It’s a common thread among DOGE staffers, who clearly have more in common than simply a passion for businesslike efficiency. Musk has to be the most famous pronatalist on earth at this point, having publicly stated for a number of years that he believes he has a moral imperative to procreate as much as possible. And weeks after the birth of his first child, White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary and DOGE spokesperson Harrison Fields wrote a Mothers’ Day tribute to his wife that read: “Let’s keep building this Fields Family — the more babies who call you Mom, the better.”

There’s an increasing sense among many that the age of straight-up, populist MAGA is ending. Out of the ashes of the final Trump term, some hope, will emerge a tech-adjacent, anti-woke New Right that is ready to lead America, pioneered by JD Vance and financed by the likes of Thiel and Musk. That may explain the fallout between Musk and Trump not long after Musk departed the White House a few weeks ago. It may also explain why Vance’s reaction to the fallout was noticeably muted.

The black sheep of the family

Malcolm explains that he’s always been the “black sheep of the family.” He was once suspended from school and sent to a Holes-style juvenile correctional facility for threatening students. What actually happened, he says, is “I was building explosives in my backyard, building switchblade type things,” in the way of lots of young boys in rural Texas. Word got around, and he ended up in the principal’s office, where he was told: “We're really concerned about the thing that you're making, because you could use it to like, kill other students or something.” Malcolm laughs: “I was just like, aghast. I got really angry. I was like: You’re insulting me! That would be such an inefficient way to kill students! If I was gonna kill other students, I'd do it like X and Y and Z.”

Such literal-mindedness didn’t go down well with the school, and the school’s reaction didn’t go down well with Malcolm’s parents. They sent him away to what Simone calls “prison camp” and then, after that, to boarding school — he never returned to the family home after the age of 13. After weeks at the correctional facility, he ended up hospitalized with malnourishment and weighing — at over six feet tall — just 90 pounds. “People tried to kill him at that prison camp,” Simone says.

It sounds like a harsh upbringing and a traumatic experience. Does Malcolm harbor any resentment toward his family for exposing him to things like that? “No,” he says quickly. After all, he turned out fine in the end. The “urban monoculture” will “try to turn people against their natural support network, which is their birth culture and their family, and try to convince them: hey, you should go to a therapist and what did your parents do to you? What's this trauma you have with your parents?” he says. “I think that there are going to always be malevolent forces that benefit from getting us to blame our parents for things. And I do not think that is good for me to model that to my kids. For example, if I go around talking about, oh, my parents this, my parents that, why would they not adopt the same thing as me? I think it's on all of us to understand that parents generally try to do what's best for their kids. And the more that we are tricked into believing anything else, the easier it is for us to be led culturally astray.”

What counts as Malcolm’s “birth culture” is a little complicated. Simone takes an ornamental mug out of the kitchen cabinet and shows it to me: it belonged to Malcolm’s grandfather when he was in Congress. As I turn over the mug in my hands, Malcolm talks about how he comes from “the greater Appalachian cultural tradition,” where “as a young kid, you do blow things up — you're supposed to blow up army men, you do build explosives, you do make flamethrowers. That's a sign that you are, within this culture, innovative and vitalistic.” It’s a culture of truck nuts and mud-wrestling, he adds, and it’s very egalitarian: the champion female mud-wrestlers, for instance, are afforded a lot of respect in the community.

Despite his efforts to tell a quintessentially Appalachian backstory, it’s clear that Malcolm — who grew up in Texas — is less JD Vance and more RFK Jr. There’s a Collins Rotunda at Harvard, a physical testament to the amount of money Malcolm’s family has donated over the years. His uncle was the former president and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank in Dallas. In fact, pretty much every relative has been to an elite Ivy League institution and runs a successful startup or works in government. Family gatherings are both intellectually stimulating and brutally dog-eat-dog. When he got into Stanford Business School, Malcolm says, he rang his dad in a moment of great excitement and pride to tell him, and his father drily responded: “Their standards must really have dropped.”

Secret societies and off-the-record retreats

You won’t just find members of the Collins family dominating the upper echelons of public and private sector roles; you’ll also find them, if you’re privileged enough, in the underworld of American secret societies. It’s a world that holds a special interest for Malcolm and Simone both.

Simone was once the managing director of Dialog, a secret society co-run by the billionaire PayPal and Palantir founder Peter Thiel. It’s an experience she calls “eye-opening”. It happened in 2020, when she and Malcolm were both looking for jobs “but he, being a white man, wasn’t going to get one in 2020 for sure,” she says. “Even people who talked with him candidly were like: We really can't hire someone of your profile right now.” Simone, however, was a little more lucky: she got a callback after applying for an interesting-sounding role through a platform called Scouted.

Dialog recruits desirable candidates — based very much on how much money and influence they have — and invites them to off-the-record retreats to discuss the future of America.

“Even among secret societies or even just invite-only societies and ideas festivals, [Dialog] is definitely the most snobby and exclusive,” Simone says, smiling. “I codified their qualifying criteria — and I know now that they're even more rigorous about it.”

The organization had two levels: “Junior Dialog” and then Dialog proper, “and at that time — so I'm sure it's more expensive now to attend — Junior Dialog was maybe $6,000 or something” for a three-day retreat, while “adult Dialog was like $15,000,” she says. The Dialog retreats are held in isolated places like the middle of the Utah desert, and they’re “extremely high-touch,” meaning that everyone is expected to participate in debate and conversation — “as in, you get kicked out if you don’t participate.” Every conversation has a chosen moderator, sometimes a Dialog staff member and sometimes a participant, and that moderator will “rate every single participant.” At the end, the ratings are tallied up, and the people with the lowest ratings are kicked out immediately. “They will even kick people out in the middle of the event,” Simone adds. “And these are people who have paid $15,000 to be here.”

In Simone’s opinion, the criteria can be a little harsh. In Malcolm’s, however, they’re completely reasonable. “The main reason you would get kicked out is if [you were trying] to shut down controversial conversations by being like: You can’t talk like this, this is offensive and I’m gonna shame you,” he says, adding that that’s something the urban monoculture does all the time in the wider world. He thinks it’s fair enough to excommunicate someone for behaving that way, “because people were preventing open and honest conversation.”

How does one get noticed by the Dialog staff, and therefore invited to their secret retreats, in the first place? There are “various criteria” that might get you an invitation, says Simone, along the lines of: “Has your startup raised over $50 million? Do you have 500,000 followers on social media plus a huge media impact, or are you a famous international advocate? How many news stories are out about you?” You have to hit a number of these to be able to come along, adds Simone, and even she and Malcolm don’t qualify for Dialog anymore. “So it’s very elite,” Malcolm clarifies.

He would know. The Collins family has long had connections in secret societies, if the rumors are to be believed. The Bohemian Club, an all-male secret society that operates the annual retreat Bohemian Grove and whose members have included a number of US presidents, made the news a year ago when it was reported that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas had attended with a billionaire friend. Malcolm’s godfather was supposedly also a high-ranking member.

>>2524505
These days, however, retreats like Bohemian Grove — often referred to as a “summer camp” for the super rich and powerful — are being eclipsed by edgier, weirder alternatives. Hereticon is the most famous, with its own clandestine annual conference — “The Apocalypse Ball” — that wannabe attendees can apply to via Google Doc. Questions on the application include: “What apocalypse are you currently focused on (realizing or preventing)?”

Malcolm says that Hereticon is “the best secret society in the world right now.” Past attendees have said that the annual Apocalypse Ball includes activities like getting tattooed on the spot, taking home your own genetically engineered frog embryo (you get to insert a genetic quirk, such as bioluminescence or albinism or a gene to make the frog grow extremely large, with the help of an on-hand scientist), and attending off-the-record salons with speakers who have been “cancelled” or are “ideological outcasts” in mainstream society. Where Bohemian Grove was a nostalgic summer camp with suits, Hereticon is a technicolor playground for rich and powerful people who insist on their supposed underdog status. Backed by Peter Thiel’s venture capital firm, Founders’ Fund, it hosts discussions on issues like how to achieve immortality, “transhumanism” (i.e. enhancing the human body with robotics and other tech), and UFOs. In 2022, Grimes — the musician and mother of three of Elon Musk’s children — posted a selfie from Hereticon, where she appears to have done a surprise DJ set that year, as well as in early 2024.

Was the richest man in the world himself in attendance? It seems likely, but Simone and Malcolm are cagey about anything relating to Musk. In the large, low-ceilinged kitchen of their stone house, Simone looks up a recipe for lemon cake and then starts to make it, pouring from an industrial-sized bag of flour and using eggs from the coop outside. Industry dozes on Simone’s back, clutching a toy scavenged during our slow drift from room to room earlier. A little “Trump 2025” flag is placed conspicuously in a vase on top of the refrigerator, and Malcolm is bouncing a child’s playground ball off the hard floor again and again as he describes how he sees himself as a superhero fighting Thanos when he stands up to the urban monoculture.

They vacillate between domestic asides and political commentary: Simone brings out a black-and-white picture of the owners of the house from the 1800s; Malcolm talks about how transgender people have unfairly taken over the LGBT conversation and put off the “normal gays”; Simone describes how she was brainwashed by liberal thinking after her upbringing in California, and how Malcolm helped her see that during an impassioned conversation on their first date; Malcolm glances out the window and points out some DIY that he needs to attend to outside. Simone is wearing a white bonnet that Malcolm encouraged her to put on after we arrived, because they like to wind people up with exaggerated tradwife-style costumes. Malcolm is dressed in a polo shirt and jeans.

Simone offers round seltzer waters; Malcolm brings out a six-pack of Coors Light for himself and starts on the first. What’s bothering me, I say, is that, despite their various connections in high places, I still don’t entirely understand how they got that draft executive order in front of Trump. Malcolm is clear that he and his brother do not have “career conversations”. He mentions that The New York Times criticized their motherhood medal idea and, in doing so, amplified it. But a newspaper can only do so much, I say. What about Elon Musk? He’s an extremely prominent pronatalist. At the time of the executive order, he was spending every day at the White House. Do you ever have conversations with him?

The mood in the room dramatically shifts. Malcolm trains his eyes on the floor. “He has never funded our organization,” he says, eventually, “and a lot of people believe he has. That's what I can say about that.”

I push a little harder. I’m not asking about money towards pronatalist causes, I say, but just pronatalism in general, as a political aim without finances involved. Have they ever sat down and had a chat with Elon Musk about that?

Silence again. “What I can say is that he hasn’t funded us,” Malcolm repeats, eyes still on the ground.

I turn to look at Simone, who’s now sitting in the corner with Industry on her lap. “I think I hear what you’re saying,” I say, and she catches my eye and smiles. It’s not a denial, but it is plausible deniability.

Changing society through AI

Simone and Malcolm own another small house on their property, where their neighbors live rent-free so long as they can provide day-to-day childcare. But even with such nearby help, parenting is still hard. Both Octavian and Torsten are autistic. They each have very firm food preferences and eat restricted diets, and they get overstimulated easily. A lot of the time, every person in the house eats a different meal, in different rooms to each other.

The Collinses have friends in the pronatalist movement, people with similarly large families with whom they can trade tips and tricks. Once, Malcolm says, he asked one of those families how they approach a situation where a child really seems to be struggling, such as refusing to eat anything except white rice due to sensory issues. What do you do to tamp down the anxiety? Their response, he says, was refreshing: “Just have more kids!” It reminded him that such modern stressors would never have bothered their ancestors, and that a lot of the time, children work things out on their own.

The pronatalist movement is “very diverse,” Simone says, as we discuss further the families that they know. There are Catholics, tradwife types, tech-forward New Right devotees like the Collinses themselves. It does sound diverse, I say, in some ways. But where are the progressive pronatalists? Do they know any?

They stop talking for a moment and Simone says, “Hmm.” Eventually, they concede they don’t know any, but that there probably are some out there. Maybe they’re too shy to declare themselves because of the liberal order. Perhaps they’ve been blinded by the urban monoculture and feel like they should have fewer children than they really want.

Although Octavian goes to kindergarten at the local public school, Malcolm says, they plan to educate the kids primarily via AI — hopefully through their own educational startup, The Collins Institute, if they can secure funding. With potentially fourteen children in the home, Octavian, Torsten, Titan, Industry, soon-to-be-born baby Tex and their siblings will have very different opportunities to Malcolm, who grew up with just one brother, and Simone, who was an only child.

That’s true, says Malcolm, but his family gave him “no inheritance” anyway — the only thing they did was pay for college. Can Malcolm and Simone afford to do the same and pay their kids through college? No, but college isn’t worth it any more, they say. It’s just a breeding ground for liberal indoctrination. AI will replace it, and that can’t happen soon enough.

The Collinses are confident that AI is going to rapidly change society — politically, academically, and socially — and that the New Right will be at the forefront of that change. Recent developments suggest that they’re correct, and that the current administration is particularly invested. In mid-June, executives from OpenAI, Palantir and Meta were sworn in as Army Reserve officers after the Department of Defense awarded them each multimillion-dollar contracts to build a solid AI component for future “warfighting”. And Trump’s so-called Big, Beautiful Bill includes one extremely unusual element: an effective ban on states implementing any AI regulations for at least 10 years.

Malcolm believes that as his kids grow up, they will remain ideologically aligned with him. AI education will help with that; they won’t be indoctrinated by teachers into the urban monoculture, and they’ll be able to explore their own personal interests through the help of a personalized AI tutor. With four kids under the age of five and another on the way, the Collinses have no problem with family rows over politics at the moment. But I wonder what a house full of teenagers as headstrong as Malcolm and Simone will look like in the future.

>>2524507
Critical support?

>>2524507
>>2524508
>Such literal-mindedness didn’t go down well with the school, and the school’s reaction didn’t go down well with Malcolm’s parents. They sent him away to what Simone calls “prison camp” and then, after that, to boarding school — he never returned to the family home after the age of 13. After weeks at the correctional facility, he ended up hospitalized with malnourishment and weighing — at over six feet tall — just 90 pounds. “People tried to kill him at that prison camp,” Simone says.

>It sounds like a harsh upbringing and a traumatic experience. Does Malcolm harbor any resentment toward his family for exposing him to things like that? “No,” he says quickly. After all, he turned out fine in the end. The “urban monoculture” will “try to turn people against their natural support network, which is their birth culture and their family, and try to convince them: hey, you should go to a therapist and what did your parents do to you? What's this trauma you have with your parents?” he says. “I think that there are going to always be malevolent forces that benefit from getting us to blame our parents for things. And I do not think that is good for me to model that to my kids. For example, if I go around talking about, oh, my parents this, my parents that, why would they not adopt the same thing as me? I think it's on all of us to understand that parents generally try to do what's best for their kids. And the more that we are tricked into believing anything else, the easier it is for us to be led culturally astray.”

Kinda horrible. Every American man must prove himself in trial by fire.

>>2524511
You know, I'm not for breaking up families and the rising tendency for people to cut off their relatives, but this seems like a pretty straightforward case of abuse to me

>>2524505
>here's some nightmare material before you sleep
I guess it's whatever. I don't know how these people do extensive interviews with a journo who is going to write a negative piece on them.

>>2524516
Just like Loomer, they want the attention. It gives them power and influence to amplify their fascist message even further to brainwash even more people. I doubt they even view the journalists as human.

>>2524372
Military Strategy based on HoI 4 and CoD redditposts. it will be glorious

>>2524501
Good post, hard agree.
There is no moving to the next town for work if you're caught in the spider's web that is the current intelligence apparatus (which is accessed by both private and state actors) like one could do in yesteryear.
The question I'm not sure how to grapple is where do we position ourselves? Is it even worth it to try and position ourselves within the bounds of the culture war, or should we completely forsake it and refuse to engage with it? How do you propagandize to your coworkers if you're both divided among cultural lines?
Sometimes I'm convinced people like the ACP have a novel idea when approaching it, which is to play to what they perceive to be the "largest" culture war camp. Though of course the ACP go about this in a terrible way, and are fundamentally incompetent.

zohran status?

>>2524573
Refused to condemn Hasan Piker

>>2524505
>There’s an increasing sense among many that the age of straight-up, populist MAGA is ending. Out of the ashes of the final Trump term, some hope, will emerge a tech-adjacent, anti-woke New Right that is ready to lead America, pioneered by JD Vance and financed by the likes of Thiel and Musk. That may explain the fallout between Musk and Trump not long after Musk departed the White House a few weeks ago. It may also explain why Vance’s reaction to the fallout was noticeably muted.
Part of my distaste for progressive idpol and "DEI" was that it was angling to put non-whites and minorities into visible positions of power during a period of obvious imperial decline. Then for more than a thousand years there would've been a lost cause narrative that woke black transwomen singlehandedly destroyed the West, and that imperialism and finance capitalism had nothing to do with it.

Instead these people will usher in the Butlerian Jihad and history will look fondly upon the event. Even their own mass-produced children will despise them.

>>2524580
>these people will usher in the Butlerian Jihad and history will look fondly upon the event. Even their own mass-produced children will despise them.
based. death to the abominable intelligence. BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW

>>2524583
>>2524580
Abolish gender while we're at it.
Judith Butlerian Jihad

>>2524569
>The question I'm not sure how to grapple is where do we position ourselves?
Look at how Lenin and Stalin tackled racial chauvinism in their time. In the Russian Empire, racial chauvinism (most-commonly Anti-Semitism) was practically universal. So, do we see any major pamphlets or books written on the subject? Do we see them "endorse" "progressive" figures/groups? No, they simply reveal that it is an illusion in a sentence or two and leave it at that. Nothing more needs to be said. No "stance" needs to be taken on the Culture War spectrum. Stalin wrote, in a letter to the Jewish News Agency, that "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism". Of course, in the present, there are more kinds of chauvinism than just National and Racial (even then there was of course chauvinism based on Gender). So what "position" should we take on these new kinds of chauvinism (sexual chauvinism and [trans]gender chauvinism)? The same as the position of Lenin and Stalin on chauvinism. All types of chauvinism are rooted in the same beast, the beast of Capital looking to turn the working classes against each other for reasons of profit.

>>2524585
>Judith Butlerian

Made me kek

>>2524585
lol

>>2524583
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW

>>2524588
It's not a 1:1 scenario.
Today we now have a huge body of propaganda bombarding people with ideology that twists up their minds and has to be untangled.

>american lefties still gendersperging in the big 2025 while their goverment has gone full blown fascist
its over

>>2524596
based, long live the king and the only one true leftist in the west

>>2524588
Thank you, this explanation was very helpful. Although I do agree with >>2524594 in the sense that things are not 1:1. Do you think more effort is going to need to be expended to expose this chauvinism for what it is? I sometimes see chauvinism addressed even by reactionaries just under different words (Think '{Race} doesn't matter, the [Elites] are trying to divide us!' wherein the [] can be filled in with any brand of 'common enemy' and {} can be replaced with any cultural division) and it has varying degrees of resonance with people.

>>2524598
>gendersperging
Made up word award. What does that even mean?

Ziohran said Hamas should dearm and submit to genocide. This is wrong. Under no pretext can Hamas dearm. Ziohran also recognized zionist entity "right to exist" again.

>>2524593
>>2524591
>>2524585
>>2524583
>>2524580
>Ah yes, lets destroy one of the big benefits of transferring to a capitalist society, fuck up material conditions for the real movement, and regress back to more feudalistic ambitions all because the bourgeoisie snake oil salesmen slapped ai on their badly designed products and hijacked r&d for their own delusions, and because we felt like this bad joke of a reality was in fact not enough of a bad joke.

Abolishing gender is a good idea, but I can’t even afford mere jokes about an actual Butlerian Jihad because people take this shit too seriously.

>>2524607
ignore the insecure men

>>2524609
This is a world ruled by and often dominated by insecure men. What you speak of is a luxury I cannot afford at this time.

we LIT

>>2524607
>Abolishing gender is a good idea, but I can’t even afford mere jokes about an actual Butlerian Jihad because people take this shit too seriously.

I am really sorry but Herbert had a point when in the comparisson of IA with nukes and other WMDs he spoke of a 'Butlerian Jihad'. IA and its proliferation is a threat to humanity. He literally just experienced the first IA-assisted genocide.

>>2524603
You VVILL use your brain and you VVILL extract the meaning of words based on their context and you VVILL be happy.

>>2524614
You VVILL use words with concrete meanings and you VVILL learn to speak with coherence and careful vocabulary and you VVILL be HAPPIER

>>2524618
honkoids like you are the punchline

>>2524607
>Abolishing gender is a good idea
How will it benefit the brown working class people that are right now being sent to concentration camps in El Salvador by Blompf?

>>2524607
If there is no leftist movement to capture technological development for the masses then it should be destroyed. Undoubtedly technological progress is beneficial, but consider that the other side of the progress is increased immiseration in times of crisis. War, famine, and class disparity will be made even more undignified than anything seen in the feudal era.

>>2524618
>muh doromblo glumpf is not le fascist!!!
meds

>>2524612
>strong economy for all
Cpusa is on the side of the bourgeoisie lol

its shrimple really. Ai in china is good. Ai in america is bad. Ai should be encouraged in china. Ai should be discouraged and destroyed in america

>>2524621
would you like some cheese with that whine?

>>2524613
>I am really sorry but Herbert had a point when in the comparisson of IA with nukes and other WMDs he spoke of a 'Butlerian Jihad
I think you misconstrue his point. And we stan the Ixian confederacy and house ordos on this board anyways.
>IA and its proliferation is a threat to humanity.
AI doesn’t exist yet, and you have no material basis for such a claim.

>>2524622
How are they incongruent with one another? I don't think the anon said "Abolishing Gender Is Most Important Especially Over The Murdered Brown Proles In Camps"

>>2524602
We need to do kind of the opposite of what the USSR did (ethnic autonomous oblasts) by making sure people are integrated as much as possible, because our culture is so paranoid that you basically need to be in regular contact with other groups of people to not be racist towards them.

>>2524620
QRD on honkoids?

>>2524623
this

>>2524607
AI is a scam and you're a retard for falling for it

>>2524639
also this

>>2524631
>And we stan the Ixian confederacy
Planet Ix is literally the Dune equivalent of fucking Taiwan. No definite NOT the offical leftypol stan planet.

>>2524639
>im afraid of ai
westoid detected

>>2524648
>westoid in usapol thread
Ring The Alarm!

>>2524631
>AI doesn’t exist yet, and you have no material basis for such a claim.
>You don't have a material bases for Israel themselves admitting they used artificial intelligence during their ongoing genocide

????

>>2524648
>south koreans are positive that ai will be used for good in their hyper capitalist society
oh, this is gonna end badly lmao

>>2524633
>How are they incongruent with one another?
You have a limited amount of resources, time and energy. You can try to do both but I would focus on the concentration camps for the time being.
>>2524637
Trump is not neoliberalism as normal because neoliberalism as normal was fascism being exported around the world while americans LARP with their muh rules based order and check and balances BS while they get treats. Trump brings american imperialism into the US.
You are a retard.

>>2524622
How does this statement benefit either people constrained by societal gender norms or the brown working class people that are right now being sent to concentration camps in El Salvador by Blompf?

>>2524623
>If there is no leftist movement to capture technological development for the masses then it should be destroyed.

That’s a great way to destroy conditions for the real movement and have pro industrialization communists choke you out. Stopping technological development is a case by case situation, not an absolute.

>>2524648
>Chile on the cucked side along with the westoids instead of the sinoborean team
Odio este país.

>>2524607
When Communist China talks about ameriKKKan gender laws and discrimination, they talk about maternity leave and wage gap. You fatties must realize gender cannot be abolished. Communist China give gender protections by law. Maternity leave. Abolishing gender means you want to take away women rights

>>2524655
The technological revolutions that brought about the modern surveillance and intelligence state are the primary reason why radical mass movements have seized to exist in the first place.

>>2524654
>Trump brings american imperialism into the US
trump didnt create ICE, bush did

>>2524648
Japan is the only reasonable country here
who gives a fuck? shit is vaporware.

>>2524658
and mcdonalds

>>2524658
you can use that technology to start color revolutions, i've always wondered what it would be like if China tried pulling one off here

>>2524659
Yes but Bush was still normal neoliberalism, Trump isnt.

>>2524663
Probably lose control of their platforms in the US.

Oh wait TikTok is already gone.

>>2524658
wdym? radical mass movements were dismantled long before the internet became a thing

>>2524660
I feel like people who weren't exposed to Akinator are the ones who genuinely believe AI is real, is being made right now, and will usher in the apocalypse/a heaven on Earth. Make no mistake, these people actually think chatbots are sentient.

>>2524639
>the bourgeoisie snake oil salesmen slapped ai on their badly designed products and hijacked r&d for their own delusions
>>2524644
Say the planet then. I dare you. You wont find anyone more historically progressive than the Ixians.
>>2524646
Stop serthing over the something, chud
>>2524651
Have you seen the shit the Israelites believe in? Have you seen what they insist on wasting their resources on? They are a delusional, illogical people butthurt and angry about reality.
>>2524657
We shall be abolishing the family as well. Weep.
>>2524667
This
>>2524658

>>2524667
nta but the dismantling started with the consumer revolution, such as mcdonalds (i am only half jk)

>>2524667
>Internet = modern surveillance tech

retard moment

>>2524675
this

>>2524675
trvke

>>2524657
>le maternity leave
>le wage gap
What are they a bourgeois democratic state?

>>2524648
The industry is a shell game.

People realize that the economic bubble alone is a huge danger to people? Like you don't even need to talk about other crap like 'ethical' use of tech.

>>2524685
You didn’t answer the question

>>2524688
acceleration

>>2524657
>Communist China give gender protections by law.
China still has a large portion of traditionally minded people. It's fucking huge and some of the more rural areas are still not very modernized let alone communist in their attitudes. The approach of China's government is to prioritize stability and harmony over radical overturning of the social order (which is largely informed by the failures to try this sort of thing under Mao). They are not a good example of what the horizon of communism should be and have different conditions when it comes to cultural issues in the west.

>>2524682
We should take a moment to contemplate the elegance of Deng's solution

>>2524605
>epic portland frog is better than 4klan frog!!!!!!!
lease soulless corporate astroturfed liberal meme yet

>>2524658
Its actually the funkopop

>>2524698
and the burger king

>>2524698
>The funkopop destroyed the Black Panther Party

At last I truly see.

>>2524689
So? The fuck anon gonna do?

remember this retards

>>2524703
Both are fake, literally nothing has changed or will change

>>2524703
You forgot to mention another demographic other than retards.

>>2524501
bleak truth nuke

>>2524705
bro thinks he is parmenides :skull emoji:

>>2524702
Shut up dumbass
>>2524703
Trvke

>>2524705
>Both are fake
i would say people who deny climate change deserve to be beaten to death, but really they deserve to live through the results of what they deny instead.

the threat of agi is something that worries me but thats a long term issue. Paper clip maximizer is a long term threat that might not happen
Climate change apocolypse in the other hand will probably happen in the next 10-50 years

Where is our savior Iron Felix? He would save this thread.

>>2524655
>Stopping technological development is a case by case situation
AI development under capitalism is a horror show and should be stopped by any means necessary. I'm not saying technological development by itself is inherently bad. But I am saying that Silicon Valley is uniquely awful and a large part of any communist movement should be to corral the power of Bay Area tech capital, and if need be, liquidate it entirely. Silicon Valley is pivoting into "defense" and AI weapons and there is a much higher likelihood of these weapons being deployed against domestic threats than the PLAN.

>>2524501
This is why the solution is aggressive internationalism/globalism among the labor movement. We can see the potential for this with the worldwide support for Palestine and before that even for George Floyd. It's demonstrably true that the workers of the world can take action collectively. What is missing is communism and a more durable consistent form of organization.

That is also why the bourgeoisie are so aggressively combating internet freedom, encryption, VPNs, etc. They recognize the power of connection across land and sea. They want it only for themselves, for capital, not for workers.

>>2524711
If climate change is real there’s no point being political at all

>>2524715
trve

>>2524713
where is our savior cpusa anon? He would save this thread

>>2524720
He's getting ready for the No Kings Protest obviously

>>2524724
damn, cant even spare some time posting here? sadge

>>2524717
>if thing with political consequences and a time limit to mitigate its effects is real, there's no point in being political at all
Climate change is a critical issue that requires political action to implement solutions in time

>>2524728
We’ve already run out of time to address climate change, the revolution would have needed to have happened in the 60s or 70s for it to be meaningfully addressed

>>2524714
I’m no cracker smoothbrain
>>2524715
>AI development under capitalism is a horror show and should be stopped by any means necessary
Oh yeah, look at all that water and the amount of resources they’re using up. Look at amount of pollution they’re emitting and where they are placing their data centers.

>I'm not saying technological development by itself is inherently bad. But I am saying that Silicon Valley is uniquely awful
It is.

>and a large part of any communist movement should be to corral the power of Bay Area tech capital, and if need be, liquidate it entirely.
They’re already doing such a great job at setting up the pieces themselves.

>Silicon Valley is pivoting into "defense" and AI weapons and there is a much higher likelihood of these weapons being deployed against domestic threats than the PLAN.

I’m more concerned about the idiots themselves than their products of idiocy. They are currently too incompetent to develop such weapons. They may deploy something against domestic threats, but it won’t be something like that.

>>2524726
Go to a buddhist shrine if you wanna sit around you hack

he was right bros

>>2524734
Reddit is back that way

>>2524734
at least ted was proactive
you just sit around and complain

>>2524736
What good did Ted being proactive do? It just landed him in jail

>>2524734
no he wasn't

>>2524739
it was his brother that put him in jail

>>2524734
>he was…
A transwoman

SEND A PIPE BOMB TO ALL US DATA CENTERS

>>2524739
And then he got ass cancer, got depressed, and committed rope in prison

>>2524729
>conveniently it was over before I was even born so I don't have to try
A certain country that gets slandered by burger reich and blamed for everything is actually 9 years ahead on its Paris Climate agreements and producing over 90% of solar panels globally but burger loser gives into cheap nihilism and declares game over without trying while his ruling class actively takes the rails off everything and accelerates full speed ahead into collapse

>>2524734
About what? Why do leftists ape rightoids and their heroes? Between this schizo, the Waco pedophiles and the bulldozer retard. Lazy.

>>2524750
Le tailism.

>>2524750
>Between this schizo, the Waco pedophiles and the bulldozer retard. Lazy.
Correct. Especially killdozer. that dude was a small biz lolbert just going ape shit for personal revenge and getting mad he had to follow basic regulations.

>>2524668
in the end it's just a complicated math problem done in python which is the real evil.

>>2524749
Go look at what happened in Gaza over the past two years, that’s what opposing the American government gets you

>>2524758
Get rid of math more complicated than algebra 2, any infrastructure that needs anything more compound isn’t worth building or maintaining anyway

>>2524701
The treatlerite masses were afraid of the Party because the Party was threat to their treats. The mechanics of treatlerism destroyed black panther party

>>2524761
Holy shit.
>muh 'merica

>>2524762
No, get rid of high level languages above C

shitposting really turned this thread into shit

>>2524765
Israelis are Americans, they’re the same

>>2524770
Holy shit.
>muh 'Rael

>>2524761
the USA has the most armed and well fed civilian population in human history but for some reason refuses to fight their own government in the middle of genocide because, as you say, they might have 1/1000th of the suffering visited upon them that their government visits on Gaza (and others), despite the fact that they have way better prospects for overthrowing that govt. than anyone else, and despite the fact that their government commits war crimes in their name and makes them hated globally.

>>2524774
Why single out Americans for this though? It's honestly incredibly rare for big groups to voluntarily sacrifice their own interests for the sake of someone else, basically every country's people would rather avoid pain than take a brave moral stand, there's a reason why we have the bystander effect

>>2524774
Because the logistics don’t make sense due to urban sprawl, suburbanization, and car dependent infrastructure. There are no third places to organize in outside of the internet where the government logs everything you say or think before you even click “post”. The food is all poisonous and addictive, no one knows their neighbors. How would you do it? Also all the guns are owned by about 10,000 petit proky hobbyists who have enough guns to start a militia but believe themselves to be lone frontiersmen.

>>2524777
>>2524774
Like, someone once posted this infographic here, and yes it's by a neonazi but is it really inaccurate? I can't really find much fault with it, it's exactly how people seem to act based on my own life experience

>>2524772
Holy shit
>muh snark

>>2524732
>I’m no cracker
Post hand.

>>2524729
Even if the world is doomed you should fight. Individually we often fight even though we will die one day and not get to witness the world we left behind. It is glorious to fight even when doomed. It is glorious to plant trees you will never get to sit under. It is glorious to care about those you will never live to see born.

>>2524780
It’s called basic self preservation and it’s not actually cowardice

>>2524774
>>2524777
Yeah? Well why dont doc workers in yurop strike instead of loading cargo to ships that go to 'rael. Why azerbaijany workers produce oil and fuel that turkey gives to 'rael. Why Le Chyna dont want Le Canal To be blocked? It is le capitalism that is killing le workers of le palestine muh revisionist falsifier fren

>>2524782
No thanks fed

>>2524785
>fren
rope yourself /pol/. you think you're slick and if you use words like "revisionist" and "falsifier" in between your zero solidarity doomer "just stop trying" bullshit you win

>>2524784
What's your point? I didn't say it's cowardice, it's just how things are.

>>2524785
Wat? That's exactly my point, most of the time people just go along with the system even if they don't like it, they load cargo because they don't want to lose their jobs

>>2524787
Sorry but it's difficult for me to live in a world that's so cruel and callous. I work in homeless services where I have to see the consequences every day

Give me QRDs on the NYC mayoral debate and the upcoming No Kings protest bros. Marxist analyses only

>>2524780
>the lemming condition is natural and cannot be changed

Yeah no. While it's true that most people primarily care about their basic needs this does not make them unthinking sheeple like this infographic applies, nor do they need to be ruled over by some enlightened elite who knows better than them, again as the infographic applies

>>2524791
There is no proletariat in New York City

>>2524792
I mean I dunno most people do basically seem to be unthinking, they only do what they're told to do by authority.

it sure is friday in here
>>2524746
hi fedposter this is retarded even by your own logic and apparent sentiments because nobody is going to carry your pipe bomb directly to the infrastructure it is targeting. you're just gonna get a random postal service worker or security guard killed far away from anything you are targeting. And even if you miraculously hit a target it's not like they won't just rebuild it all after you're arrested. Means of production are mass manufactured while pipe bombs targeting means of production are not. As an individual cannot destroy (damage) the system faster than it can recreate itself (heal).

>>2524792
>>2524795
Obviously I don't agree with the fascist bit or there being an enlightened elite but that's besides the main point

>>2524797
Thanks anon very useful contributions

>>2524795
No one individual is conscious. Class consciousness resides in le party. Workers struggles are spontaneous and unconscious without le party, okay?

>>2524780
>>2524795
>reactionary accelerationist slop with an extra side of dehumanization of The Normies
The absolute fucking state of usapol on a friday morning
No the masses are not unthinking lemmings anon

>>2524790
so on the one hand you're telling other people to give up and stop trying despite the fact that you are saying you work to help others in real life? Don't you see a contradiction between your actual real life where you do things to help people and your online jaded persona where you talk like it's all doomed and people should just give up? Your actual actions are superior to your words, which is the opposite of most people here, who talk all that good shit but do nothing.

>>2524795
People are dumb and ignorant because they're encouraged to be and rewarded for it. Meanwhile being a smart little boy with a universal degree in everything like communists are tends to just make you miserable and doesn't actually fulfill any of your needs. A socialist society by contrast would ideally encourage critical thinking and research rather than reward people for regurgitating factoids with no reflection. It's one thing to say "imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism", it's a whole different thing to know what that means and how it presents itself.

>>2524804
the graphic design on this is stupid because the metaphor falls flat. it's obviously the hardest to escape poverty in the USA, but the statistics are lined up like a stairs where it's harder to climb the easier it is in that country.

Listen libtard I'm not your average conservative
>I'm a CLASSICAL LIBERAL
>You can't handle my CONTROVERSIAL takes!
>I say what others are AFRAID of!
>You ready? Don't get TRIGGERED libtard!
>*starts defending Israel*

>>2524802
Then why do they act the way they do? Sure I haven't overthrown society myself but at least I tried going to socialist meetings and handing out the workers paper and going to protests and whatever.

At least I try to work in a job where I actually help people rather than be somebody who works for MurderKiller Systems LLC as a paper pusher and doesn't think about any moral implications at all and that they're a good person.

>>2524805
I didn't say to do nothing, I was just objecting to the thought terminating cliche of 'evil lazy Americans' etc, they're no different from anyone else really. By all means try and do things, there's no other option, I just am not very optimistic about it

>>2524806
I suppose I can't really falsify that either way since we've never had a real socialist society, maybe it will encourage people to be better but I kind of think they'll just keep regurgitating the dominant propaganda like they were before.

>>2524801
I'm pretty skeptical of parties too since they generally just become personality cults of powerful figures who use the party to meet their own needs rather than actually changing anything.

Gestapo got doxed
https://archive.is/20251017142525/https://www.404media.co/hackers-dox-hundreds-of-dhs-ice-fbi-and-doj-officials/

>>2524808
>shut up
i'm right

>>2524796
anon, this thread is filled with shitposts

>>2524812
Another le Maya Arson Crimew thing?

>>2524811
>I didn't say to do nothing, I was just objecting to the thought terminating cliche of 'evil lazy Americans' etc,
ok so you jumped into the conversation late and didn't read it from the beginning.

start here:
>>2524717

by the time it gets to here:
>>2524774

(which you mischaracterize btw as "evil lazy americans" when nobody said that)

it had already gone through several rounds of climate denial with a side of (paraphrasing) "if it's real then why bother with anything"

>>2524806
>It's one thing to say "imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism", it's a whole different thing to know what that means and how it presents itself.
Good time to segue into a general thread question.

What theory have you read in the past week usanons? Even if you've not finished it or if it's base-level.
Remember there is no way to go back in time and read, but you are always able to do so in the present! :)

>>2524815
>my posts have to be low quality because everyone else's posts are low quality
please tell me you're not also the guy bitching about normies being sheeple if this is your attitude

>>2524816
Maybe

>>2524820
no im just shitposting for the fun of it.

>>2524821
Damn another big fat juicy transwahmen (id prefer to use muh favourite word but alas, mods will rape me for it) W.

>>2524816
The bingle lady has struck again.

Also her name is properly rendered as all lowercase, fyi

>>2524783
Nah, not worth it

>>2524817
Ok well I don't agree with that obviously but the post I originally quoted does seem to be making the argument that Americans are just inherently bad to me.

>>2524827
> seem to be making the argument that Americans are just inherently
it's not. what it is saying is that burgers have massive potential to stop their gown government but don't use it. if you care, read it again more slowly and carefully in a neutral tone
>to me.
mmm yes quite

>>2524832
Not only burgers. Le proles in general have. It is not time yet appatenly though.

>>2524833
I talk about burgers because that's where I live and have the most influence and because I agree with Lenin on avoiding manufacturing consent against other countries because it unwittingly serves as part of imperialist intrigue.

be honest with me because this thread is making me a bit depressed, whats the chance of a revolution in the usa

>>2524835
a million times more likely than it was 5 years ago

>>2524836
0 x 1.000.000 = 0 tho

>>2524839
america, with the rest of the new world, has a certain % chance. its europe that's at 0, they're destined to rekindle fascism

>>2524835
It's a tossup, I for one am waiting to see how tomorrow goes and whether it fizzles or turns into the Day of A Thousand Dead Frogs

>>2524835
100%

>>2524842
Europe is genuinely fucked on several fronts.

And considering LA is now asking for special permission to allow the cops to assault reporters (which has already been going on but hasn't been officially sanctioned until now) and the continued fearmongering from the White House about this I suspect a sizzle is more than likely. Cops are going to get overzealous and kill someone and then all hell will break loose

>>2524835
20%, and that's being generous because you guys are a bunch of lazy, good-for-nothing exceptionalists .

>>2524849
they depended on burgers for security
they depended on china for commodities
they depended on russia for energy
they depended on migrants for cheap labor
now it's all going to shit and they blame everyone but themselves

>>2524851
I think you're giving them too much gas considering how the last few went

>>2524853
And they still have climate change to deal with as well.

>>2524849
yep. europe is cooked. you know shits gonna get real when the oldest continent on the planet is strapped for cash, France cant even service its debts

>>2524809
A genuine Carl of Swindon approved message.

>>2524842
I think the US is just as cooked as Europe chat
But dont worry, in 50 more years, thanks to the international developmental projects of communist China in the Global South, we thirdies will liberate you. Just try not to nuke China in the meantime, thats all we ask of you guys.
You could also help us help you if you somehow sabotaged the culture department of the MIC.

>>2524857
The last few mostly had Trump and pals ignoring them or giving them dismissive mentions. This time around they're hyping these protests up as shit that's going to be attended by Sauron, Skeletor, Bolshevik zombies, ISIS, Majin Buu, Lopan, Superman, and every single Power Ranger. And they'll all be sacrificing babies to summon the ghost of Saul Alinsky. They're really going all out to paint these protesters as an existential threat to America well in advance so that when they brutally crack down on them the public will think it justified, at least that's the theory. In reality all it's doing is making the No Kings libs seem cooler than they actually are

>>2524859
>>2524853
Western euros be paying for the debts of colonialism. Americans(north, central, and south) will be living in the pan-American socialist republics and be partners managing the global with china and Russia. I saw it in a vision.

>>2524853
common westoid L

>>2524867
They did this last time though, I remember leading up to some of the protests a few months ago there was an identical smear campaign

>>2524863
>I think the US is just as cooked as Europe chat
europe is uniquely in a bad spot. it needs to federalize if it wants to be treated like a superpower, and thats not gonna happen when all the countries speak a different language

>>2524818
>What theory have you read in the past week usanons? Even if you've not finished it or if it's base-level.

Reading Killing Hope again.

>>2524884
The only really good thing, and the most important thing to come out of Mamdani's campaign: showcasing the lower class’s discontentment with those of the upper echelons, along with showing the unpopularity of the “moderate”. Everything else is just bupkis though.
>>2524887
John Bankruptcy is doing it again

>>2524890
a socialist mayor in every city I say. even if they do nothing but terrify porky

>>2524887
Glad i turned down being a TSA groper

>>2524905
The whole point is to grope people. The pay is beside the point.

>>2524835
100% by necessity. Communist revolution is fundamentally inevitable

All the groypers ziggers want to "convert" are gonna cheer the rape of Venezuela by the US. So much for "anti-imperialism".

12 year old occupied government

>>2524936
lmfao wtf i love trumpoids now that's peak humour.

>>2523896
Holy molly those people are even more insane than I thought. Litteral fascist cult with a coat of red paint glowing brighter than a supernova. At least they are being somewhat less platformed in leftists circles now that their ideology mostly alines with the state department line.

I just had a flashback to 2020 and remembered a rumor that there was a red organization in Philly that helped rally people for their locale's iteration of the burgerkrieg. Lo and behold they've got some food distribution, ESL classes and a tenant's union dating back to 2016. Good for them!
Hope more local orgs like that managed to sprout up or keep the lights on.

They beat up /ourgirl/ Abby Gazebo. Fellas we have no choice but to go to war

>>2524952
They assaulted the lady who invented the Gazebo? that's fucked.

>>2524938
retard

archive.is is no longer working for paywalled articles
wat do?

Maga pastor figured out what happened with charle Kirk

https://x.com/rightwingwatch/status/1978848386993242376

>>2524977
finally, we know what happened that day.

>>2524761
>Go look at what happened in Gaza over the past two years, that’s what opposing the American government gets you
is this supuse to be an excuse?
on what earth has that ever mattered for revolutions? the Spanish Second Republic fought with teeth against fascism, even knowing what the Spanish empire did to their colonized lands, and only lost thanks to the direct meddling of Germany and Italy.
get some balls, kid.

Imagine being put in this shit

ICE's use of full-body restraints during deportations raises concerns over inhumane treatment

When they asked to speak to their attorney, he said, the officers refused and straitjacketed the already-shackled men in full-body restraint suits called the WRAP, then loaded them onto a plane for the 16-hour-flight to West Africa.

Referred to as "the burrito" or "the bag," the WRAP has become a harrowing part of deportations for some immigrants.

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/ice-restraints-the-wrap-deportations/

>>2524989
Ap video about ice

>>2524988
Because I don’t want my neighbors, family, and coworkers to die for a roll of the dice, it’s not worth it

So how went the debate? Just watched an extract, Mamdani seems to have destroy them

drumpf has captured two people in one of the boat strikes. should we prepare to see them paraded across fox news to confess how maduro has ordered TAD (total american death)?

U.S. Detains 2 Survivors of Latest Military Strike in Caribbean

The U.S. Navy has rescued two survivors of an American military strike on a semi-submersible vessel suspected of smuggling drugs in the Caribbean Sea and is holding them aboard a Navy ship there, two U.S. officials said on Friday.

The Navy for now is detaining the two people aboard a warship in international waters, marking the first time the military has found itself holding prisoners from President Trump’s six-week-old campaign of targeting suspected drug runners as if they were combatants in a war.

Since early September, the U.S. military has attacked at least six vessels that the Trump administration has said, without putting forward evidence, were carrying drugs. The first five were speedboats, but the most recent strike targeted a submersible vessel, the officials said.

A Navy search-and-rescue helicopter retrieved the two survivors and flew them to one of the eight Navy warships that had been dispatched to the region.

The five strikes Mr. Trump has acknowledged killed 27 people, so the death toll has now reached at least 29. The nationalities of two survivors is unclear.

The Trump administration had not announced or acknowledged the latest strike as of Friday morning. By contrast, for each of the five previous known boat attacks since early September, Mr. Trump boasted of the operations, declared how many people they had killed, and swiftly posted surveillance videos showing the vessels in the sea being blown up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/us/politics/us-military-strike-survivors.html

>>2524989
cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional

do you guys think if a democrat ever becomes president again there would be retribution against drumpftards?

>>2524998
The constitution doesn’t matter and never did

>>2525000
Never

>>2524998
Constitution doesnt matter to a wanna be dictator who wants every to dick suck him.in his cult of personality

>>2524977
Mental hospital, labor camp or roadside ditch?

>>2525000
They will pardon more right-wing extremists than Trump

>>2525000
lol, lmao even

>>2524705
>climate change
>fake.
maybe on mars.
I worked with people in Switzerland just this year, and they told me that in Geneva they are seeing rains like tropical storms, never seen before in their entire lives, despite they are Swiss-born people, and old. just were I live, the climate was relatively cool, now if it doesn't rain, it feel like a fucking cauldron.

Starting to think this guy isn't all that smart

>>2525000
>president again there would be retribution against drumpftards?
no.
and don't do stupid quesitons.

>>2525000
>do you guys think if a democrat ever becomes president again there would be retribution against drumpftards?
When the next Democrat comes to power they will be exactly as the 2000s neocons they glaze. You will wish Dubya could run again lel

At least the US was winning then

>>2524993
Yes instead your neighbors and coworkers deserve to be grinded into dust as the bourg slowly strip them of any and all dignity from them

>>2524951
yeah its just called Philly Socialists

Russia's T-72 Porcupine Tank

Russia has once again updated its technology. RT posted this video btw

https://b23.tv/ar7XzC3

>>2525036
well they dont need to worry bc musk never actually builds anything and it would end up as investor bait

>>2524774
>USA has the most armed and well fed civilian population in human history
Wrong. China is far more armed. Millions of american stand in food stamp line are having their treats taken away

>>2524991
"umm the wrap is like meant to be like comfortable ok reasonably comfortable it's not a comfortable situation"
"uhhhhmmm I have a hard time believing ice would use the wrap on people just for crying, otherwise I would have a hard time collaborating with them."

ICE Agent gets pulled over for DUI, starts interrogating cop about his race

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1o94qaf/ice_officer_arrested_for_dui_tries_to_stop_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

>"Are you Haitian? ARE YOU HAITIAN?"
<"That doesn't matter."
>"It does!"

ICE continues to piss off Cops.

>>2524943
>Holy molly those people are even more insane than I thought.
They split into two groups after LaRouche's death. One half renamed themselves Promethean Action and have become Trump shills. This group is apparently led by Barbara Boyd who is a longtime LaRouche activist from Michigan. The other half is "LaRouchePAC" (but now their website is down?) and the Schiller Institute which is led by LaRouche's widow, Helga-Zipp LaRouche, who is from Germany. The Schiller Institute side of things tried to recruit Haz and Jackson Hinkle but the main takeaway that I get from them now is talking about how the "new world economic order" at online conferences. Diane Sare is also part of that wing of the split.

>Litteral fascist cult with a coat of red paint glowing brighter than a supernova.
Some historians of fascism like Stanley G. Payne have challenged the argument that fascism was a straightforward rejection of the Enlightenment. It wasn't simply a trad movement, though it used nostalgic imagery recalling ancient Rome. It aimed for a total transformation of society and carried a belief in action and "energy." National rebirth. Technological progress. Belief in organized will. These are legacies of Enlightenment thinking, but they rejected democracy and secularism along with anything deemed as undermining national vitality and cultural rootedness.

You can get these vibes from them. Especially the Promethean Action ones. Look them up on YouTube and read the comments, and it's their followers talking about "Promethean thinking" being a "grand unifying theory of American life." But this is a "Judeo-Christian" society and we're all created in God's image and God has bestowed us with the power of creativity (in all aspects).

>>2525052
so let me get this straight. an ICE agent can
>have no ID
>be drunk driving
>be allowed to go around in a mask arresting people based on suspicions without a warrant or evidence
while being part of an organization that generally
>will try to intimidate even local pigs into letting them be above the law
>will regularly deport legal citizens and residents that still have active visas
>will refuse to look at birth certificates or green cards when submitted
>will physically and sexually abuse detainees
>will keep children, elderly, and everyone in between locked up without toothbrushes or baths until their teeth rot in their skull
>will fuck up people's apartments during raids, including door locks, and then not even pay for repairs
and nobody in the USA is doing anything about it?

>>2524716
Agreed. I think the left should always try to expand civil liberties, and especially combat the successful encroachment of surveillance and tech fiefdoms essentially controlling all civil discourse, the job market, and even most other capitalists. We've all seemingly woken up to this in the 2020s. I'd be willing to work with liberal organizations on this one, even if it's not effective it would be a good idea to gain experience and find people who are talented in organizing, effective tactics, etc. Tech capital is certainly one of the first pillars of capitalism we want to topple/weaken/contain if we ever want to organize effectively, nevermind abolish capital itself or really ever enjoy the liberty of privacy.

>>2525015
He was never smart and never a leader, it's just that the reactionary views abuse as leadership. I'm guessing the reactionary idealizes, then internalizes, the abuse of their youth. The 'rationalization' of abuse perpetuates the cycle, so the victim becomes the abuser instead of ever becoming a survivor. That's one psychological aspect of the reactionary I noticed but I'm still trying to figure it out. Oh yeah.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s3iGpDqQpQ

>>2525059
Given that it seems anyone can dress up in tacticool gear and call themselves ICE. Would it be possible to get a cadre to do a false flag and some gated communities? Just raid the houses of trumps fascist base and steal their shit? Not that I’m advocating that but looks like that’s what trump has opened the door too.

>>2525052
Full video

Critical support to piggy cops in their struggle against ICE fascists

>>2525096
<skip to random moment
>guy starts crying about his 'bitch ass wife trying to take the kids'
pure pottery!

>>2525109
He also constantly refers to the white cop by his name "Layne" and does not even acknowledge the Haitian officer. I am glad to see the Haitian officer was the one holding him most of time that must have made him see the so much

>>2525059
>describing every fed ever
Have you never seen TV where the special agent breaks every law and pulls out his card and pisses off local PD

>>2525109
it’s like almost every amerihonkoid couple eventually gets into a fight over custody of kids
why do whities even bother with marriage anymore?

>>2525115
At least in Mulder and Scully's case they're just hunting down ayy lmaos or Chupacabras who are actively posing a threat to undocumented immigrant communities

>>2525052
Civil War between piggies and the Soy SS

Trump: Maduro "has offered everything … He doesn't want to fuck around with the United States"

Imagine Republicans if Obama talked like this

>>2525033
I admit that makes it rather hard to discern as a tank.

>>2525126
moar liek war between Soy SS and bitch-assed ex wives taking the kids.
That's the only people who'll ever appear in front of these peoples gun-sightes anyway.

>>2525139
>And I say to those nations out there that may intend ours harm uhhh, fuck around, uhhh find out, uhhhm on God my uygha uhh this uygha don't play that shit
He needs to run for a third term like that

>>2525033
what's the purpose of the pines

>>2525000
I think Newsom is trying to fill that niche but I’m not sure there’s anyone running for office willing to actually do what vengeance against MAGA would entail. Like they’d need to just say “fuck the law” like Trump is right now.

>>2525105
How else are you going to have a functional space to organize

>>2525176
I wonder how historians will chart the American century of humiliation? I think you can easily argue that it started under trump 1, the past 9 years have been an embarrassing with American being lead by two different senile mega reactionaries. But I think G.W is also a good place to pin the start date. Plus starts off in 2000 which is a nice round number.

>>2524427
a sea of blue check marks being retarded as usual

>>2525203
the Chinese had a century of humiliation where they were subjected to coloniaism.

Americans are having a century of suicide where they rabidly lash out at the world with no real plan.

>>2525217
boxer rebellion when

>>2525203
I'ts almost a century of humiliation. U.S just needs to have one third of their population addicted to fentanyl for the cherry on top.

>>2524427
Free buses dont help the workers and the peasants. The workers and peasants see wage decreases because the cost of transport no longer factored in therefore the bourgeoisie is richer.

>>2525239
Transport costs aren't even being factored in now you mong.

>>2525203
It started with the fall of the USSR

>>2525239
EGG PRICES EGG PRICES REAL WAGES D*MCEL D*MCEL D*MCEL

>>2525242
Yes they are. Read engels on housing question. If housing is free, real wage falls and capitalist is richer.

He has been inspecting teen coom data

https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1o8qawb/today_the_average_teenager_in_this_country_has_50/

Don't you think it's a problem that people in this country are so polarized they can't even use the same websites anymore? Rightoids are on Facebook and X, libs are on Reddit and BlueSky.

>>2525248
>real wage falls
maybe to whatever the new subsistence is now that workers don't have to pay for housing. capitalists must pay working class subsistence wage (which includes cost of raising 2 or more children to adulthood) or else working class shrinks and productivity and profit along with it. But if workers are given free housing, yes, real wages might fall to match the new cost of subsistence now that housing is subsidized. But that is the case with any social democratic reform. What is really nice is that the worker no longer needs to think about getting rent payment in on time or doing the bank account math associated with bills. Workers want to decrease the number of bills they have to pay even if real wages decrease to match the decrease in bills. People hate the very act of paying bills and it's a lot of bureaucracy around it.

>>2525256
I'm pretty sure 50% or 48% of the people of u.s don't vote or hate the two party system, if you look at the "if din't vote was a candidate on the election" map.

>>2525254
it's because of woke

>>2525256
I think leftist and liberals are like only fans payers. They still have twitter accounts but don't admit it. There are big leftist post on twitter that still get 100k 200k likes. That can't happen without a huge amount of lefties still there.

>>2525259
Workers should not fall for this phony, proudhonist "free ride socialism."
>What is really nice is that the worker no longer needs to think about getting rent payment in on time or doing the bank account math associated with bills. Workers want to decrease the number of bills they have to pay even if real wages decrease to match the decrease in bills. People hate the very act of paying bills and it's a lot of bureaucracy around it.
We likely see a decrease of real wage. Proles wont have to "do the math" anymore. "Social democracy" is fascism, so it wont be long until new yorkers are assigned "free" pods and rations

>>2525274
>" is fascism, so it wont be long until new yorkers are assigned "free" pods and rations
Muh pods. Why do you right wingers try to launder your views as Marxism?

>>2525052
I wonder the outcome if he were a black DHS….
>>2525059
the problem with all of that it isn't that he's a fed. because you will always have some policing authorities beyond regular police. the problem with that is that he is around without an ID, and pulling the racist card when he does the same, and that many could pretend to be a DHS to get away with it.

>>2525286
That guy was a different type of vibe than people who get arrested and are assholes or think they are tough. This guy literally felt he should incapable of being arrested. At one point he even said federal is above cops. He feels like a king who is untouchable and really if not for police cams these type of guys would probably be let go too which you said.

>>2525061
>civil liberties
rights. fucking rights. if you conformist think that liberties has some actual meaning, you are in the wrong boat.

Trump says he just commuted George Santos’ prison sentence.

He says he’ll be released from prison “IMMEDIATELY,” adding on Truth Social: “Good luck George, have a great life!”

>>2525295
As a reminder

>Former Congressman George Anthony Devolder Santos was sentenced today by United States District Judge Joanna Seybert at the federal courthouse in Central Islip to 87 months in prison for committing wire fraud and aggravated identity theft. As part of the sentence, Santos was ordered to pay restitution to his victims in the amount of $373,749.97 and $205,002.97 in forfeiture. Santos pleaded guilty in August 2024.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/ex-congressman-george-santos-sentenced-87-months-prison-wire-fraud-and-aggravated

From Donald Trump's Roundtable on Antifa —
"Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost 100 years in some instances, going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany."
— special guest Jack Posobiec

>>2525314
Kinda giving away the game here by outright framing the OG antifa as the bad guys but we're in an era of "who gives a fuck" so what do I know

Yknow with Republicans saying tomorrow is gonna be some “hate America rally” and claiming everyone there is Hamas/Antifa I gotta wonder what are the chances some Trumptard does something stupid.

Last time I only saw a few screaming obscenities at us and flipping us off. But with the Kirk stuff I’d not be surprised if they do something violent.

Stay safe everyone. Even if it’s not a MAGA guy I’m sure ICE will do something dumb as a show of force.

>>2525318
"I don't give a fuck" (me ne frego) was literally the motto of the Blackshirts.

>>2525318
It's not an offhand comment either. He is well aware of what he means

>>2525325
Isn't this the guy who wrote a book calling leftists subhumans who need to be killed? He's a full-blown fascist.

>>2525319
I probably wouldn't go because it's an astoturfed campaign to elect Democrats in 2028, but my mom wants to go, and she's nervous and inexperienced with protests, and she's getting old, so for the sake of filial piety and Confucian virtue I'll be taking her to one. There probably won't be anything interesting to report but I'm kind of intrigued by who exactly is organizing this thing in my area.

>>2525325
Always enjoy rightoids trying to explain communists, it’s like watching a monkey play with a science set.

>>2525330
Wasn't it the SRA subreddit? He was a Reddit SRA guy. Pretty funny.

>>2525329
Yeah admittedly at the start I was kind of disappointed the first go round, like you show up and it’s sort of a “now what”? Thing. Liberal protests feel pretty feckless in that regard.

Still after a while I started to see it in a more positive light. You feel like you’re not going crazy you know? You’ve got such a diverse crowd and it’s not got the kind of purity spiraling you get used to. It’s refreshing.

My aunt’s 70 so I’ll be going with her, if only to make sure she doesn’t get shoved or intimidated.

>>2525319
I initially wasn't planning on going but my parents think it's important enough to go and plan on meeting up with my younger brother for lunch, so I figured I might as well come down too. The other members of my family are convinced that all the rhetoric from the Republicans is just bluster, which usually yeah is a safe bet but who knows with this kind of thing. All I know is that much like with the military parade that just ended up being an embarrassment the stupidest option is the most likely

Oh btw, Ted Cruz is blaming us for the No Kings protests.

We live rent free in their heads.

>>2525344
Dont worry, I'm sure if you explain to these guys that you're uh…what's the phrase, "social fascists who want to purge America of its most inefficient aspects to maintain imperialism for the volk" the feds will have no choice but to let you go!

>>2525344
Based and popular front pilled

Wait for sliwa answer

>>2525344
It's funny because CPUSA is the most bland party of 70 year old folk music enthusiasts.