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>>2537992Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2538912>fellas how do we feel about trotskys idea of unequal and combined developmentPhony bastardization of Lenin's theory of the principle law of monopoly capitalism.
Lenin's genius identified the principle material law of monopoly capitalism as the law of uneven development in which value is drained from the periphery by imperialist bourgeois countries creating objective conditions for revolution in these periphery nations. This is the fundamental law of capitalism unlike trotskyite bullshit.
The trotskyite law of "combined and uneven development" is defeatist bourgeois idealist perversion of Marxist-Leninism to justify his attacks on workers and peasants and capitulation to imperialists. Trotskyites said no backward nation could ever be socialist without imperialist bourgeois labor aristocrat's approval due to "combined" development (archaic and modern political and productive relations). Trotsky was proven totally wrong by Lenin Stalin Mao. Trotsky's "law" is no law at all, but a pretext for counter-revolution.
>>2540472Its funny to utterly despise this man but also enjoy the demise of USA.
>>2540490It's kinda funny how much this site shits on him vs how much normies love him when he's marketing himself as a Left-wing candidate and trying to push Americans to be more Left-wing.
Leftypol bros are we out of touch?
>>2540493If anything the popularity of Graham Platner is a sign that people are sick of the status quo, and that we need to be out there organizing these people before they get funneled back into the Dems.
>>2540493you can acknowledge normies like him while at the same time Americans electing a social democrat as a mayor in 1 city is way too little way too late when climate change and imperialism demand urgent militancy
>>2540502>If anything the popularity of Graham Platner is a sign that people are sick of the status quo, and that we need to be out there organizing these people before they get funneled back into the Dems.people were saying the same thing about trump and bernie 10 years ago
>>2540493It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
5 years ago describing yourself as a communist was political suicide. we're in uncharted waters now lol
Complete gringocide when?
Anarchists and communists should feed those 42 million people without stamps and bang, enough numbers for the revolution. No excuse
>>2540521>No excuselaziness
>>2540518Gringos aren't even real
>>2540524The term laziness is itself lazy and incredibly lacking in material analysis.
usanians are so fuckin dumb. they can't pronounce mamdani.
>>2540534uh, yes.
Graham Platner self describes as communism but if you look at his platform it's not only succdem reformism, but also stuff like "rebuild the military" and "break up the monopolies and support small businesses"
Neither Marx nor Lenin was for breaking up monopoly and returning to small business competition (Teddy Roosevelt was however). That's petty bourgeois reaction. It seeks to under-develop the productive forces that would be nationalized under a dictatorship of the proletariat in a naive desire to return to ideals of 18th century yeomanry and guild artisanship.
>>2540543is this chick muslim?
>>2540532assuming this is true, im positive its something elite society would disapprove of. self described communist holding offices makes the job of real communists easier by simply existing
>>2540544why do I need a source for the commonplace observation that americans don't know what communism means, whether they like it or not, and the other commonplace observation that words have meanings change over time because people misuse them until the misuse becomes the normal definition.
>>2540547>self described communists who aren't really communists hold elected office>they inevitably betray the working class>this tarnishes the reputation of communism>rinse and repeatThIs iS gOoD fOr aCtUaL cOmMuNisTs bEcAuSe Da ElItEs dOn'T lIkE iT
>>2540546she's his wife, yes
>>2540472Fucking one trick pony comic arist, the same joke recycled over and over again, where's the fun in that? Its mild, barely amusing anymore.
>>2540554well yes, it's undeniable the political sphere is changing, and not in favor of the elites lol. do you think they prefer losing a system they controlled with preferred candidates bought by the donor class? wake the fuck up
>>2540557they are very good at creating false opposition, or have you forgotten our two bourgeois parties that are "democratic" only when it comes to said elites?
One big cultural change when it comes to politics is how national even small elections used to be, ads for Zohran wound up in other countries, an mayoral election for a single city, and now the nation is plugged into the small local election of Platners. The political calculus for politicians has changed, it's no longer enough to please the constituency of the voters able to vote for you but now the attention of the whole nation is on you and you have to take their considerations and sensibilities into account. it's just different now
>>2540562'controlled opposition's lol the DNC along with aipac is sinking everything they have into getting Mills the nomination, there is no competing democratic candidates here
Will they try to deport Zohran?
>>2540583I love how we can just say whatever bullshit we want and as long as it aligns to whatever the rightoid Zeitgeist thinks should be true it just gets accepted as truth, to even question it is treated as a grave insult against not just Trump but America itself as we've seen with some of the latest White House press conferences
>>2540583are the democrats even pretending to care?
Can we get a progress update from the guy who wants to start a leftist revolution by digging a secret network of underground tunnels connecting every major city in America?
>>2540493All this does is prove that Felix was right about Americans. The vast majority of them are willing and enthusiastic collaborators who view the mass murdering thugs for empire as honorable and good because they know that the slaughter of people overseas supports their way of life.
>>2540590The democrat party is desperate to just be second reactionary party. Except multi-racial, but the republican party is already a multi-racial reactionary party and beat them to the punch like 4 years ago.
>>2540542>Graham Platner self describes as communismretard
>>2540610he literally backtracked on it after being called out dumbass
Why don't we start a leftist revolution by pooling all of our money and building a DIY submarine and we'll get inside it and go to the bottom of the ocean and then nobody will be able to stop us from achieving our goals.
>>2540612oh, so it's even worse than what I was saying
>>2540612yeah that's called playing the political game, you don't openly declare yourself a communist on live tv is one of the few easy requirements to winning this game. the point is, if this guy were a secret lib or a fash, it would've been made clear from the deleted history he tried and failed to hide
>>2540614we could board a nuclear submarine and use its arsenal to hold the world hostage
>>2540550source on that source?
>>2540623why did they edit his bulge to be smaller?
>>2540618I think many people in many countries would be for the second one because we still live in a nationalistic, tribalistic world where people form groups and oppose each other, with this viewpoint being reinforced by capitalism.
>>2540619everyone ever has always been allowed to wear whatever the fuck they want in court. lawyers encourage their clients to wear suits because the whole system is an elitist condescending institution that demands respect as if it were owed to them as if they weren't civil servants and wearing a suit is one pathetic means of coerced submission by which that is achieved
>>2540627true yet america still has hegemony and holds the world hostage, so it would be highly relevant questions to ask the american public as they pivot from being normielibs to fuentes fashoids and platner socialists
I challenge any of you to find me something Felix was wrong about.
>>2540617plenty of completely retarded people call themselves "communist" because they have no fucking clue what communism is.
>>2540643sure. but the average american has a dislike of communism and communists. to describe yourself this way means you're willing to socially accept the negative preconceived notion americans have, that's a brave thing to do. is he revolutionary? no. an actual scientific communist? probably not. but it's interesting to me that it didn't sink his political career, when it would've done so before covid
>>2540658I literally do not give a single rat's fucking ass about someone self-describing as a "communist" on fucking reddit ten years ago. There are plenty of people who called themselves "communists" online who were just social democrats who are and were vocally against every single possible communist endeavour.
There is no "negative preconceieved notion" when you're talking online. Do you even have a shred of evidence he talked about "being a communist" IRL? "I was a communist when I was young but then I wised up" is pure fucking boomerspeak for full on embracing social mass murder and carries no weight at all in democrat circles.
>>2540658It probably did affect him with the average person, which is why he immediately disavowed it. It's most likely his core demographic that was uncaring of it, possibly due to socialism/communism becoming less of scare words among younger Democrats. Of course this is still just speculation.
>>2540662>ten years ago.try a few years, after the blackwater stuff
>Do you even have a shred of evidence he talked about "being a communist" IRL?does SRA firearm training and community mutual aid count?
>>2540666Honestly if he went and learned up after five stints of murder he's genuinely even worse because he's still 110% pro military and pro murder.
>>2540667This will surely win over the working class during the no partying economy
>>2540671firearms experience is firearms experience. why purity test when the world is at stake
>>2540621I’m pretty sure there was a lib T.V show about this happening except is was some liberal admiral.
>>2540675Fascist firearn experience is bad
>>2540680oh true,,, lets find a bunch of vets from all those socialist wars to teach us instead
>>2540667Fellas, are women inherently class traitors for not having sex with me?
>>2540680Do fascists teach about firearms differently than communists?
>>2540684actually this was based
>>2540493>normies love himamerican normies*, they are different from the normies of the rest of the world, they are much more right wing
>>2540689Learning firearms is very simple. Even babies can do it.
>>2540701not when it comes to immigration. even european libs are like little hitlers when it comes to brown people
>>2540701I think you have to live in a bubble to believe this.
>>2540675Well is he running to be firearms instructor lead for the SRA?
>>2540690All zohran does is suck capitalist cock and call hamas war criminals and raise the anti-semetism police budget so hes exactly the same from materialist viewpoint
>>2540694It was not based. Ziohran platform is small business and increasing police budget. Literally a fascist platform.
>>2540675I really have to point out.
He's not running on a platform of "equip and train ANTIFA". He isbrunning on a platform of "arm and train more soldiers in a military run by the fascists" he's a social Democrat saying that he helped the KPD go shooting once, so now he has right to help make up the recruitment in the Wehrmacht. This line is fucking nonsense.
>>2540710he never said increasing police budget anywhere at all he said "keeping the same amount of officers" and also has indicated an interest in demilitarizing and thus defending the police
he literally wants to get rid of the tactical response unit which responds to protests and demonstrations and he has said this in the debate and its on his website
>>2540713changing things isn't the point of running candidates. his existence simply makes it easier for real communists to organize and harder for establishment dems to organize a cohesive ideological line. think bigger than platner, think why people are fine with candidates being communist, and you'll see a wider national trend of 'socialists' popping up like mushrooms, real communists should be seizing that momentum so Platner isn't alone
>>2540722and look idk what mamdani really believes because he has to be very careful with what he says
so ima let jit do his thing and find out what his deal is
>>2540718you wouldn't last one second playing the electoral game. the Bolsheviks had to keep up the veneer of supporting the eventual constituent assembly and the existing provision government for a long time, among many other lies that had to be kept secret so victory could be secured
>>2540731we do not need to play the game
also everyone reading lost the game
>>2540736>we do not need to play the gamewhy not?
even Mao played the game
politics is hard if you're not a completely self-interested psychopath surrounded by completely self-interested psychopaths
>>2540736we need to play the game to be able to destroy it
>>2540747I have hopped inside of the monster. I will now pilot it like a mech suit. oh god oh fuck i am being digested what the fuck
>>2540742electoralism? no its a waste of time its like saying we should play the game in 1933 germany
Its completely captured and time is best spent on organizing community defense and actually making councils for once
>>2540753this isn't about electoralism it's about politics tho. that has scope outside of just getting elected.
for example, Leftypol will call Platner a nazi all day long but the guy's resume is arguably more appealing to "white working class" types than a typical DSA leftist(homeless, trans, brown, etc) who if anything scare "Americans" away from the Left by being so different from what they're used to.
a leftypoler would say "this is a bad thing because it indicates the American Proletariat are stupid reactionary chuds and we already lost if we try using Platner to build support because we should just wait for the American people to wake the fuck up and radicalize themselves."
a Mao or Lenin would say "okay lets recruit some ex-military chuds and indoctrinate them with our message then release them into the wild to propagandize the proles, even if they can't be sincerely radicalized, then we can use that mass support through deception to seize power and spread Communism to the masses through generations of reeducation"
note: this is distinctly different from "electoralism" because you aren't relying on elections to give you power. you're relying on mass support to make the situation untenable for the bourgeois, forcing them to either concede power or get killed by the angry mob of Platnerites demanding healthcare.
>>2540706He's bringing back McRib.
>>2540761Both Mao and Lenin explicitly disavowed deceptive political tactics.
Good to tell on yourself though, because now I believe you'll say literally anything with false intent.
>>254070624 hour walmarts
looks like there's going to be a storm on election day, so it's actually over
the zoomies will stay home while the boomers wait in the rain and get pneumonia for cuomo
>>2540766>Both Mao and Lenin explicitly disavowed deceptive political tactics. You don't seriously believe they never used deceptive tactics right?
>>2540768unironically i miss being able to get my groceries at 2am
>>2540706If any politician in America campaigned on forcing McDonalds to bring back the dollar menu or face nationalization they would win with 100% of the vote.
>>2540772So, guys who called themselves scientists and believed they were creating a reliable method of overthrowing capitalism were not only using deception, but also lied to the people who they were intending would follow in their footsteps, thus corrupting the entire process and rendering their entire works pointless.
>>2540766>Both Mao and Lenin explicitly disavowed deceptive political tacticsbruh lol. Lenin wouldn't let a silly thing like ideological purity stand in the way of achieving victory. sometimes I wish Leftypol was half as pragmatic as he was
>>2540696
Bro Felix dzernsky was so legit that you avataring as him is kinda sacrilegious
>>2540778Lenin came back to Russia on a train after the February revolution, after the abdication of the tsar, and immediately began calling for the overthrow of the provisional government and the transfer of all power to the soviets when many of the more "pragmatic" and reformist-minded just wanted seats within the new bourgeois government.
>>2540781>sacrilegiousnot him but that's some spooky shit
>>2540785
are you OK bro
Good to see the platner supporters are quickly showing themselves ignorant and ready to embrace dishonesty and manipulation to get what they want. Its really, really telling.
So when are we actually gonna establish the dictatorship of the proletariat
>>2540782I understand all that, but before the Bolsheviks seized power in october, there was a lot of political maneuvering going on beforehand, for example, Lenin fucked up in the July Days and had to do a lot of lying and covering up that mistake. everyone at the time assumed the constituent assembly was inevitable, only the Bolsheviks didn't want it and they couldn't just be open and honest about it lol
>>2540778The entire Marxist line and one that Lenin repeatedly emphasized in multiple texts is that having the correct theoretical line was crucial to achieving success and that "pragmaticlly" dropping ideologically correct lines was a guaranteed way to lose the support of the masses.
>>2540792we're not. we're going to try and stop the rest of the world from doing so, the same way a kulak burns his grain when the peasants try to to redistribute it
>>2540798the issue is first past the post voting
I think mandani is more good than bad, and at very least we can wait until he gets elected to see what he does, but platner is unredeemabley imperialistic might might very possibly have innocent blood on his hands and still has the ideas in his head that made him think it's okay to sign up and kill people in the middle east for the empire
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>>2540797>dropping ideologically correct linesim not saying to do this lol. the party should always be on the same ideologically correct page. what I'm saying is the party should be flexible and able to hide their power level when times call for it. being open and honest in the name of ideological purity, especially in the face of fascist persecution, is just setting yourself up for failure
>>2540810>active duty soldiers are on food stampsI mean I don't care about them but this is crazy and a sign of a joke of a country lol
>>2540797Genuine question, why do you need to be honest with the proles if you know you have their best interest in mind?
The whole concept of a Vanguard Party that Lenin built his entire theory around seems totally incompatible with the notion that you can't be deceptive or secretive in your intent for the sake of the greater good.
Why do you think the CCP engages itself so much in censoring media they consider destructive to the minds of the proles? This could be construed as "honesty" but only in the same way a parent would show "honesty" when they say you can't have something "just because" while refusing to elaborate. It's just left to the child to conclude either the parent is thinking in their best interest or the parent is being deliberately deceptive based on the child's own moral character.
I know the Marxist thought is that faith is a meme but politics really is about putting your faith in someone else to help you achieve your goals. If you think Platner will help you achieve Communism in America, even if you don't agree with like…90% of what he says, then you'll convince yourself that he's just lying or that his position will evolve etc, and while from one perspective this is "deceptive" from another it's just people willfully reading between the lines the same way MAGAs insist Trump will bring back the 1950's. Lenin/Mao worked off the same kind of trust among their supporters, expecting them to lay down their lives and make sacrifices while having faith that The Invincible Science of Marxism would see their dreams come true.
Different people have different pressure points you have to press to convince them to support your cause, but ultimately if your goal is achieving Communism in America, I don't really have a problem with using "deception" against those where it's more effective rather than straight up telling the white middle class "yeah we're gonna send you to collectivized farms for your generational crimes against the Native Americans, blacks, and latinos" because that's my actual intent but they wouldn't be willing to die for me if I told them that lol.
>>2540817she took a long time and a lot of protests to get to that point
>>2540813I'm sure if anyone could donate the money for a Greyhound ticket Houdini would happily comply. If he hasn't died yet that is. Haven't seen him in a while.
>>2540817would be nice if she stopped voting for weapons for said genocide but alas
>>2540804Yes, but proportional voting has its own problems of entrenching coalitions of elites to prevent any actual change (see: Germany, France, Scandinavia…)
>>2540810Arrest small business owners. Imprison small business owners. Judiciously litigate small business owners according to revolutionary code. Throw small business owners into a labor camp. Subject small business owners to lengthy struggle sessions. Make small business owners wear dunce caps. Exile small business owners to foreign countries. Eat small business owners.
If you have the ability to donate anything in relation to my room rent this week, that would be clutch. i have to ask as many people as possible this as there's strength in numbers, any amount helps. It adds up. Send donations to:
https://www.paypal.me/jakobbrown2>>2540817>She has called it a genocide and then proceeds to say we need to keep giving Israel weapons
>>2540844She never said this
>>2540852she voted for a measure giving israel defensive weapons and got shit on for it
>>2540823>Genuine question, why do you need to be honest with the proles if you know you have their best interest in mind?Becuase while people might be stupid they're not that hamster-tier stupid and will see through you.
honkoid status?
>>2540859>Becuase while people might be stupid they're not that hamster-tier stupid and will see through you.They voted for Trump twice because he promised to bring back the 1950's.
I'm surprised that someone could go through the last idk, 20 years of American politics and conclude "people are stupid but they aren't THAT stupid" it seems like you're asking to be proven wrong just by uttering that sentence.
>>2540863https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1912/nov/09.htmRead lenin. In ameriKKKa, people choose either the reformed slave owner party or the capitalist party
>>2540871<But the American proletarian has already awakened and has taken up his post. He greets Roosevelt’s success with cheerful irony, as if to say: You lured four million people with your promises of reform, dear impostor Roosevelt. Very well! Tomorrow those four million will see that your promises were a fraud, and don’t forget that they are following you only because they feel that it is impossible to go on living in the old way. But this is unironically a good thing for developing class consciousness in the proletariat, no? When reformists inevitably fail it just creates a hunger in the proles for a "true" working class party. Denouncing reformists before that stage just means the conversation never moves past reform because it was never given an opportunity to fail.
This is ironically how Lenin came to power in the USSR by exploiting the Mensheviks and manipulating public opinion against them to build his own support base every time they failed to fix anything. It's certainly more effective to let the reformists fail and exploit their failures than it is to expect revolution to be an all-or-nothing event which, historically never happens.
>>2540836seems pretty easy to scam
>>2540899why do jews like hurting babies so much
>>2540899clerical fascism
>>2540907my hindu queen saved iran over the summer 😍
>>2540818>leftism is when black person I can’t anymore Bros, when will we leave the era of reaction? I’m not even offended anymore just bored and disgusted. We have to have these disgusting ugly reactionary freaks be shoved in our face 24/7 and it’s all the same shit.
>>2540910I heard they met on hinge
>>2540913African Studies is called Africana Studies now?
>>2540910/pol/ is itself controlled by the zionists so this isn't surprising.
like 70% of the IP's on /pol/ are either Israeli or Indian.
Communities are left dumbfounded by a double murder and suicide over the weekend, and investigators continue trying to piece together the link between them and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
On Tuesday, the base confirmed that all of them had been employees there. Jacob Prichard, 34, was part of the Air Force Research Laboratory, while Jaymee Prichard, 33, worked within the Air Force Life Cycle Management Center.
https://www.wdtn.com/news/three-wright-patterson-employees-dead-officals-investigating/>>2540884it's been a hundred years, retardão macacos. Did the four million call out Roosevelt/Clinton/Obama/Jobiden on their fraud?
xique xique fucking moron
>>2540913The pseudoscientific concept of "race" is inherently reactionary because it was created by imperialists to justify discrimination against their oppressed populations
Mutiny in the Armed Forces
They aren't paying 'em, they are paying ICE. According to our sources on the inside, at least within the infantry, we've been told that the morale was already incredibly low. This was before the lack of pay. Numbers are low so people are worked twice as hard, 12 to 16 hour days without weekends are the norm. Conditions within the ranks are pretty dogwater from everything we've been told. ICE being paid while the military isn't is absolutely causing talk among the ranks, and these are guys who are the most likely to have 'drank the kool aid'. It's an open secret that the coming Syria deployments are solely to protect Israeli interests in the region, and the current leader of Syria being former Al-Qaeda doesn't help. There are fellow travellers in the ranks but those who are, they are 'hiding their power level' so to speak, unsure what if anything a small number of these travelers could do beyond sow discussion.
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On why spread this:
The information is useless if it's not broadcast. If no one knows then it's pointless to have people in these positions to gather the intel. They are there to sow rumors and extract resources to further our ends. We have been working for over 2 years to make these networks a reality. The risk falls on our people, not yours. We are fully aware of the risk therein with even having people get into those positions. There are surely other people within those positions that hold the same ideological current but are not connected to our network, ergo this information and the act of spreading the rumors of potentiality are a strategic choice. Let them know we have our people within their ranks, as their ranks are not as protected as they believe. Let them run the purges and the purity tests, it will only further our cause. I do not think you understand the seriousness of what is is to move in this capacity. This subreddit and similar spaces online are nexus points of thought, you read this, I read it, the discussion and thought spreads within our circles, this is intentional. The stakes of this game are higher than ever, 40 million people, many friends of mine, people with children, will lose access to food, essentials.
Infiltration is the work of the professional revolutionary. Infiltrating the establishment's protective agencies will also tend to neutralize the ruling class's attempt to isolate the black vanguard commune from the larger body of the class structure. All efforts to isolate the vanguard community must be resisted.
–George Jackson, Blood in my Eye
The regime might believe they have an army of loyalists, but rumors of defection, mutiny and potential sabotage will surely shake this belief. Let them be shook.
It is sad that Nick Fuentes is more Marxist than so-called American communists.
>>2540916maybe nazis were the woke after all…
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>>2540933>I'm not so sure. Maybe some, but I think what was decisive is that things have become more expensive, and they vaguely remember things not being as expensive when Trump was president the first time.Explain Trump's first election then?
2016 was certainly not an election about "economic anxieties" considering the economy was much more stable then: AI hadn't destroy everything, COVID19 hadn't happened yet, and China's global dominance was not yet solidified. Americans still chose Trump to lead them over a generic milquetoast Lib, not because he offered anything real but because he said he'd Lock Her Up(he never did this, and voters didn't care) and End Wokeness(this also didn't happen, though at least he tried).
Fundamentally American voters are not pragmatists, they simply don't like the idea of accepting responsibility, and will vote for whoever allows them to escape their societal problems more easily. Going back literally to the founding of the country this has always been the case. Whichever candidate provides a better fantasy, either of the future or the past, always wins.
I believe the Iron Felix Theory of Imperialist Treatlerite Escapism suggests 2028 will be decided by whichever candidate promises to destroy Venezuela harder and loot their corpse more efficiently.. Assuming this, Platner might unironically become a front-runner in 2028 as a guy with military experience campaigning on "fixing" the military to make it more efficient at killing people. Newsom would have no chance.
>>2540933>I'm not so sure. Maybe some, but I think what was decisive is that things have become more expensive, and they vaguely remember things not being as expensive when Trump was president the first time.Something that stands out to me is that Dems will still seethe over this notion "Biden ended inflation!" But the reality is they want credit for
slowing inflation.
What people want, and they don't have the terms for it, is a kind of
deflation. Dunno if higher wages would count as "deflation" but still, the point stands. They want things to be cheaper and Dems want to run on the idea "well things are getting more expensive
slower as a victory. It's like someone gets shot in the gut, they start gushing blood, and then another person comes around and bandages most of the wound. You're still bleeding but they want you to thank them for slowing it.
I've said it before, but Trump had maybe the best messaging of 2024. He literally just said "You're gonna have so much money you won't know what to spend it all on." Meanwhile Democrats went for tried and true focus-grouped policy positions that take a half-hour to explain and rely on the assumption you'll just "get" that you'll have more money at the end of it.
Trump told people he'd give them what they're asking for: more money, some improvement in their financial situation. The Dems ran on "well things aren't getting bad as fast" and then were shocked they lost.
>>2540951>Explain Trump's first election then?It was about WINNING and making GOOD DEALS. The libs were all like "but he's not really a conservative" like the Never Trumpers but WHO CARES. Okay, maybe the stuff Trump was saying was B.S. about more jobs, stock number go up, crowd size = bigger. But there's nothing in American-style Pragmatism that says you can't engage in wish fulfillment, it's actually suited for that as a way of orienting people to do something. It's like believing religion is "good" because it helps you get through life or something. The "truth" is conceptualized as having some kind of practical value.
Anyways, sewer socialism = fast and free buses
>>2540840Get a job, dude. This is fucking pathetic.
>>2540964That's the point I was going for though. American politics is all about lying to people. Not just electoral politics but politics in general. The American public want to be lied to in a way that allows them to avoid responsibility for America's atrocities while taking credit for its successes.
Under this logic, we should just lie to people that Communism can get them a girlfriend and a sports car. It's not really "deception" so much as appealing to their desire to evade responsibility. They KNOW they're being lied to, and they don't care. What they want is for you to *sell them on the lie*, and that's what Trump was good at.
>>2540684Is this Dengism with Burgerstani Characteristics?
>>2540899looking forward to the backlash and legally mandated circumcision soon
Gaza ceasefire collapsing like it did earlier this year, same story impossible demands from the Israelis pretexts and eventually return to genocide
>>2540978I am glad it collapsed it's going to make everyone hate Israel even more. When fighting stops Israel hate reduces.
>>2540899I forgot that
many burgers love to have their genitals mutilated, and call yet call themselves 1st world.
>Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host and a leader in the Republican Party’s isolationist wing, said that Americans who previously served in the Israel Defense Forces should have their U.S. citizenship revoked over concerns of dual loyalty.
>>2540980>>2540980The people of gaza can't live like this
>>2540982maybe its time to go back to dealing drugs
>>2540983based tuck
>>2540982The people of gaza can't live like this
>>2540947Is this hideri poster from getchan?
>>2540982good luck anon its fuckin tough but itll be better than nothing
>>2541012Imagine one catching on fire. Man that would suck!!!
>>2540910because they're brown and Muslim. /pol/ hates jews and muslims but hates muslims more. naturally since israel is constantly sold by the reactionaries in power as the bulwark of "judeo christian values" in west asia and as a sort of crusader state for jews, it is natural that a lot of racist americans and europeans like israel because at least they kill muslims, and also israel technically gets a lot of jews killed too.
>>2540916most /pol/tards are burgers followed by europeans. the image saying it's all indians and israelis was photoshopped. Even if it were true you wouldn't know from IP statistics because mossad and indian intelligence wouldn't be dumb enough to just use their real IPs when trolling on pol.
>>2540902circumcision is retarded and should be abolished but both jews and muslims practice it. muslims call it khitan. idk what percentage of muslims do it. it's not mentioned in quran but is mentioned in hadiths. some muslims say muhammad was born without a foreskin lol.
>>2540982>accumulating interest chargesoof
this is why i would rather go without then ever take a loan for anything
>>2540962you're never going to get deflation in this country because it's currency hegemony depends on inflation. If you do get deflation it will be because america lost currency hegemony and you are now producing everything you used to import (this will take a long long long time, possibly until you are old)
>>2540947>damn, 2025 demokkkrap media looks like 2010 rethuglican media.remember when obama was grilled for being too far left and said in response "I'm basically a 1980s Republican" … that's the formula. Dems tail Republicans. They are just diet Republicans. maybe we will reach the point soon where they are actually more reactionary than republicans, if we haven't reached that point already, but for both parties it's a race to the right, or, if you're going to tsk tsk about "umm i'm a communist not a leftist" it's a race to the bottom which is what we really mean when we say "to the right." They are both trying to outdo each other at being reactionaries.
>>2540907they should do that fr
>>2541022can't a Yahood ever catch a break ffs
>>2541018I wish I could beat every liberal(and most leftists) over the head with that line until they deleted their twitter.
>>2541022why dont the palestinians just kill the settlers?
>>2541026well the truth is most of us don't shut people down like that in real life, we shut people down when they say shit online which is asynchronous communication where you are free to nitpick people's words in a way that's impossible IRL. there's this constant conflation where just because people do that online it's assumed they do that IRL. like no I do not shut down my MAGA father in law mid sentence every time he says something stupid.
>>2541018I think it should be some head-cracking position like Chief Thug or Head Goomba
>>2541027But… leftists have to cite Lenin for whatever they do even when it comes to mutually contradictory positions all the time
>>2541028because the settlers are armed by the USA and the palestinians are not, to give you a very short answer.
they are trying their best. here is a palestinian in sandals with an improvised explosive device killing a tank full of settlers by walking right up to it.
like idk what you want out of them
>>2541031ok but the other 3rd (4th?) anon said
>Lenin wouldn't let a silly thing like ideological purity stand in the way of achieving victory. sometimes I wish Leftypol was half as pragmatic as he wasso they were bringing up lenin's "pragmatism" to defend succdemery at which point the counter example of the April Theses were given. I just entered the conversation at that point. I was not AK-47 anon talking about deceptive tactics or whatever.
After Gaza you wonder where the remnants of the current left gets their energy from. Is it better for first-worlder sympathisers to just watch anime?
>>2541025Use your army training to teach the people how to fight back Houdini. It's how you'll atone for selling the people poison.
>>2541029Problem is MOST of the socialization people do these days is online, so I don't think it's fair to ignore it anymore or discount the way people behave online tbh. We should take a more serious position regarding dialogue with fellow humans online that are willing to talk. Maybe it's just my channer background but I've met a lotta people online that simultaneously use slurs, hate various racial groups in a "i hate everyone equally" kinda way, and yet still sympathize with socialist positions when forced to shed all the vitriol and engage honestly because the alternative is supporting their own doom.
Of course I've also met just as many that are garbage humans inside and out that just want to troll and farm negative attention, but not everyone is like that. Some people are just living contradictions that can be reasoned with by appealing to their values. The internet's quickness to dig for a person's most easily attackable position and just vilify them over it to invalidate anything else they've said is pretty much a recipe for never achieving socialism.
>>2541037In my opinion the american left is not serious about dismantling the system so watching anime is probably more productive than what's being currently done. I don't see anyone on the left talking about building connections for serious revolutionary activity for example. It's just people who want to share Communist memes and complain about being poor or beg you for HRT funds. If there was a real left-wing group that was offering idk, helping to arm people through a charity for giving away guns and firearms training to the homeless, then I'd be way more into activism.
>>2541038There is so much I don't talk about online that I never would talk about online. Just use your imagination and read between the lines when you can.
>>2541052what are these 8 wars?
unpopular opinion: the black panthers were aura farmers
>>2541055they're mostly things where he wasn't involved or little skirmishes he provoked and then 'stopped' so he could say he stopped wars and should get the nobler peas prize.
Whenever fighting dies down somewhere in the world he just takes credit, or he provokes some fighting to start somewhere and then tells his proxies to stop and takes credit for ending it
>>2541055(according to trump admin)
DRCongo, Rwandia, India/Pakistan, Iran/Israel, Cambodia/Thailand, Armenia/Azerbaijan, Serbia/Kosovo, Israel/Palestine
>>2541052the inherent incompetency of the liberals to overthrow this clown surprises me. any other place in the world would have gotten this man ousted. unpopular, rising prices, lying about his political program of "peace candidate", federal employees even soldiers on food queues.
damn, man.
mods deleted Felix's anti-American thread
this board is run by glowies
>>2541052>>2541074 (me)
>it's great he got "no transgenders for everyone" 🙄while he dances YMCA in front of a bunch of soldiers.
>>2541087true and real and accurate map
Ibram Xolani Kendi (born Ibram Henry Rogers; August 13, 1982) is an American author, professor, anti-racist activist, and historian of race and discriminatory policy in the U.S.[1][2][3] He is author of books including Stamped from the Beginning, How to Be an Antiracist and Antiracist Baby. In 2019, the New York Times referred to him as "one of the country’s most in-demand commentators on racism."[2] Kendi was also included in Time's 100 Most Influential People of 2020.[4]
2003's "Living With the White Race" book by him
>don’t hate white folk because I’m a Christian. How can you hate a group of people for being who they are? Similarly, how can you hate a turtle because it won’t keep up? That would be like parents hating their children because they are different. All of our children aren’t the same. Europeans are completely different from Asians who are completely different from Hispanics and so on and so forth
Europeans are simply a different breed of human. They are socialized to be aggressive people. They are taught to live by the credo, “survival of the fittest.” They are raised to be racist.
Caucasians make up only 10 percent of the world’s population and that small percentage of people have recessive genes. Therefore they’re facing extinction. Whites have tried to level the playing field with the AIDS virus and cloning, but they know these deterrents will only get them so far. This is where the murder, psychological brainwashing and deception comes into play.
>>2541102Henry rogers is a moron
>>2541108>>2541104>Soul on Ice is a book of essays and letters written by Eldridge Cleaver while he was serving time in San Quentin State Prison and Folsom State Prison.
>Leroy Eldridge Cleaver (August 31, 1935 – May 1, 1998) was an American writer and political activist, and an early leader of the Black Panther Party.[1][2Cleaver immediately courts controversy in the opening essay, "On Becoming". He describes his realization as a young man that he had been "indoctrinated to see the white woman as more beautiful and desirable than my own black woman."[19] In the wake of the 1955 lynching in Mississippi of Emmett Till for allegedly flirting with a white woman, Cleaver says he developed an "antagonistic, ruthless attitude toward white women" that he acted upon when released from prison in 1957:
I became a rapist. To refine my technique and modus operandi, I started out by practicing on black girls in the ghetto—in the black ghetto where dark and vicious deeds appear not as aberrations or deviations from the norm, but as part of the sufficiency of the Evil of a day—and when I considered myself smooth enough, I crossed the tracks and sought out white prey. I did this consciously, deliberately, willfully, methodically—though looking back I see that I was in a frantic, wild, and completely abandoned frame of mind. Rape was an insurrectionary act. It delighted me that I was defying and trampling upon the white man's law, upon his system of values, and that I was defiling his women—and this point, I believe, was the most satisfying to me because I was very resentful over the historical fact of how the white man has used the black woman. I felt I was getting revenge.[20][21]
Hey Felix if you are there send me a message on Session: 056ad30addde6a56d82a4e653d27d12a1c0965e6ee8afa95b4f9bea0048d47c83e
Israeli strikes overnight in Gaza have killed at least 60 people, including many children, local hospital officials said Wednesday, in what is likely the most serious challenge to the tenuous ceasefire dea l in Gaza since it came into force earlier this month.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-hamas-gaza-445eea84db9c19600b9ab92786b7fb7c>>2541066Kosovo War ended over quarter of a century ago lmao
>>2540493you're posting on a site that regularly gets into internet faggot slapfights about whether or not Amerikkka is an inherently fascist (but also not REALLY fascist) state that has to be destroyed (which tbf is kinda trve) and that our only hope is for China to fix everyone's problems. I think it's safe to say this place isn't very tapped into the average American's point of view.
>>2541118New orgs are reporting on Fuentes political declarations?
>>2540493Leftypol keeps saying that the us normies are willing to turn a blind eye to imperialist conquest if they get something out of it, so not really.
>>2541147>turn a blind eyeThis isn't a recent development. Too bad the distractions of politics makes people forget their cultures in favor of the newly contrived algorithmic divisions. Looks like ideological colonization via social media is a proven recipe for success in this regard. There aren't many keepers left in this world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu9928h4hBs >>2540493Most Amerikkkan "leftists" were happy about the dissolved Soviet Union being economically raped to death. Should we have also followed the amerikkkan hivemind?
>>2541175Americans stuck the gun in their mouths themselves. Shut the fuck up larper.
>>2541199>antifa is da bolsheviksmaybe in 50 years
>>2541209Be the chance you want to see in the world anon
Yknow thinking back on consensus reality breaking down during Covid and hearing conservatives apparently thinking Medicaid and Food Stamps getting cut don’t effect them because “I use EBT, not food stamps” I can’t help but think of that line in the mouth of madness about “insanity” being socially constructed—if the insane outnumber the sane then it’s the insane that control reality.
Basically the second Trump term is eldritch horrors beyond our comprehension pilled.
>>2541223Okay bourgeois socialist
>>2541225Amerikkkan bourgeoise are still Amerikkkan people
>>2541227Okay bourgeois socialist
>>2541228What's a bourgeoise socialist? Another Zionist buzzword?
>Opposing bourgeois reformism is bourgeois
ok
anything i dont like is bourgeois!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2541226i hope hes arrested so DSA learns their lesson and stops wasting their time with elections
>>2541234>i hope socialists get arrestedalways a pleasure reading leftypol
>>2541216You have a point, but the cultist can always bottom out of their ongoing breakdown from orangeman addiction and regain sanity and more than half the country isn't a cultist, so there's hope. The insane are trying to control reality but they will fail. Oh yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9_hCjcFNO0 >>2541239Being arrested is the least that should be done to a Nazi
>>2541239yes because electoralism is counter productive and it would hopefully deter them from it
>>2541229No, it’s another term from the book you didn’t read.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm>>2541231>>2541233Talking to your imaginary friends does materialize the ensuing imaginary argument into a real one. Just letting you know for the future.
>>2541239it's like the best thing that would happen to radicalize socialists into being something more than sheepdogs to liberalism, like in every country on earth
>>2541248even better if he gets deported to uganda
>>2541244>electoralism is counter productiveignoring the political sphere is setting yourself up for failure. how about you stay home and leave the real world socialist building stuff to the adults
>>2541246Oh so you take other terms that exist and change them around so you can feel justified in your zionism entryism, got it
>>2541253electoralism isnt the political sphere its a game they make you play to control and waste time
real politics is organizing dual power and nothing more
>>2541239If he's a socialist why does he lower the amount of dead people in the Palestinian Holocaust and works for a bourgeoise party while denying he is a communist of any sort?
>>2541248alright sure lets have you get arrested first then if you believe in this idea so bad
>>2541259Why should he get arrested instead of a holocaust denier like Mamdani?
>>2541255politics is how you get from dual power to socialist power
when you get your dual power structure you either play the political game to make it 1 or you ignore it and get squashed like a bug
>>2541248it would radicalise more people than for him to get power and renege on every single one of his promises because the state government in albany say no
>>2541259i'm some literal who, zohran isn't, logically speaking if you want to radicalize the people, zohran getting arrested, especially if he's given some denaturalization or something is gonna drive up support for socialist actions that are more than electorialist sheepdogging
>>2541240It’s still wild seeing an admin that runs off a blatant sense of unreality. “Oh Portland is a war zone so we’re sending the national guard in.” “Vaccines don’t work”
I was at an Asian market the other day and they had some ICE ad playing talking about round ups and how “leave now or we’ll make you”. Fucking horrifying shit.
>>2541263are you fucking retarded?
do you not know what dual power is because you arnt building any through electoralism thats called engaging with the existing power NOT making a new counter power
>>2541248Imperial core “socialists” would rather die and take the world with them before even considering reducing their treat intake, there is no “radicalizing” them except into further fascism. Which should be encouraged as it hastens America’s transition into isolationism and keeps it from being a threat to AES
>>2541267you're retarded for thinking I said you could build dual power through electoralism read my post again
third worldist retardation
>>2541254No liberal zionist reformist, I do not.
>>2541269(meant to reply)
Dual power is a contradiction. There can be only one power. So when the two powers come to loggerheads, the socialist power better be using every tool in its toolbox to win and this includes legal electoralism. Lenin did it and Mao did it. Whatever it takes to win.
>>2541272Third worldism is when you don’t think the rest of the world should be enslaved for the sake of the golden billion, got it
>>2541283no its thinking that westerners are incapable of being class conscious en mass
>>2541277but that way i don't get to sit on my ass all day and complain about other socialists
>>2541266I'm fairly certain that horrifying people is the point but I don't see the hoi polloi going along to get along forever. Admin can't but continue to lose support.
>>2541286ikr tragic that people here are too busy daydreaming of arresting socialists they have a personal dislike of
>>2541285You’re right, after all the west has a rich history of Marxist Leninist revolutions such as…
>>2541291Why would an oriental ideology apply in the occident? It comes from completely different conditions
nationalism is identity politics
>>2541298Exactly, communism is incompatible with the western worship of the individual
>>2541300All politics is identity politics
>>2541277>>2541286>>2541290Your attempt to pick up a “tool” has only turned you into a propagandized one. You and your predecessors efforts have failed the past century, and you have nothing to show for it.
The rest of proletariat have decided for you already. The system will die. Your electorialism has outlasted their patience. Your choices now are to reform yourselves or be broken by the world.
>>2541304Or maybe the occident has to develop its own forms in accordance with its own unique conditions, as the orient did, you’re as guilty of purity politics and non dialectical thinking of any leftcom or chomskyite anti leninist
>>2541309why are you talking like a video game NPC
>>2541314It already has, it’s called fascism
>>2541317Whatever you say self hating occidental
>>2541306Source? Nationalism depends on having a national identity. Trying to create one in a plurality is a political endeavor doomed to failure.
>>2541273Mamdani is your best Zionist friend isn't he
>>2541324He would be yours actually
>>2541327Me? I hate you zionists though? Are you just going no u after your lame attempt at a buzzword?
>>2541266Reminds of me of the time I listened to some music in Spanish on a new phone, ip address and different wifi than I usually do ( no targeted ads because Google doesn't know it's me) and after listening to a few songs in Spanish I got the ad with kristi noem telling me to leave the country if im illegal
>>2541336>Me? I hate you zionists though?Sure thing zionist
>Are you just going no u after your lame attempt at a buzzword?That wasn’t a buzzword. That was me calling you out on your shit for supporting the rule class.
This however simply me tossing your nonsense back at you.
>>2541336why do you fall for ragebait?
>>2541357That’s not ragebait, artisan lover.
$100 short on staying housed. Really.
Please help if you can.
https://www.paypal.me/jakobbrown2>>2541362artisans are nice :)
>>2541368I know you enjoy the petite bourgeoisie, and I entirely loathe you for that. Anarchism, for all it’s boasting, is not capable of revolution. You anarchists will always stop short, and will never leave this mode of production and the ideology that dominates it.
>>2541370sure buddy good luck having a vanguard party in surveillance capitalism
>>2541375Don’t need a vanguard party, anarkiddy. And it seems as though that “surveillance capitalism” has recently decided to have a lobotomy. I see opportunities coming up real soon.
Entryism is when you participate of no political activity. You don't build electoral power, you don't build street power and you don't organize the workers. Entryism is when you wait for the liberal parties to present politicians into the market of politics. Then, you shop for those politicians by giving them money, and volunteering for them and making sure to elevate them into a good career within the liberal parties.
This implies, as a worker, you are not allowed to disagree on policies contrary to your class interests, with your provided representative. Because despite the politicians being sourced and funded and *ruled* by the liberal party, they purport to have a secret agenda. Your secret agenda. And, if you don't support them through being liberals, they would never be able to integrate themselves into the same party what produced them. And if you so fail to elevate their careers within the liberal party… well How can you expect them to petition power in your name?
Now, it is just coincidence, that as this process unfolds every such politician develops a following of actual liberals who are not in the least concerned about the "secret agenda" and so it gets replaced with bog standard liberalism. You failed to push them left as they rose in their careers. This, is YOUR failure.
BUT that is no reason to stop trying! Look at this guy! He's so much unlike his predecessors!
>>2541375have you heard of the online exploitation groups O9A or 764? how would an anarchist commune solve the issue of people in other countries exploiting your members? What if a state actor wanted to do harm to your community through digital means, like a cyberattack? Would you close your internet off to the outside world?
>>2541385changing things isn't the point of running candidates
>>2541389The unspoken truth is that these groups are overwhelmingly composed of anarchists who find communist spaces too “authoritarian” for their liking, and like other anarchists are directly supported by glowies
>>2541389there would be community defense that would also extend to those sorts of things
and i dont see why you think there is any innate issue of cybersecurity they would handle it like any organizations would or group or organizations
>>2541404>there would be community defenseA community defense filled with the petite bourgeois. And maybe conscripts. How atrocious.
>they would handle it likeThe petite bourgeois. Because they are the petite bourgeois.
>>2541404>community defenseNo give me a real solution here. Does your community defense involve reading the private conversations between individuals outside the commune? because that's the only way to solve this issue. It doesn't seem to me that anarchists get to enjoy the privilege of encrypted communication if that's the case.
>>2541414>>2541418Isn’t it funny how the anarchist “solution” to crime is to just recreate the brownshirts but with more queers? Almost like fascism is the truest manifestation of anarchism or something!
this is how every argument with an anarchist has gone since i started using leftypol
guy with anarchist flag:
>blablabla
someone else
>hey if you shoot someone doesn't that make you a state? LOL
>>2541455And notice how you’re never able to answer why your anarcho-state is suddenly not a state?
>>2541455either
A) you build a state that you don't call a state and accidentally reinvent Leninism with some clever wordplay to disguise it
or
B) you leave a massive power vacuum in society that is immediately filled by reactionary elements who recreate the class dictatorship of the bourgeoisie
for there to be a stabilized statelessness, you must have as a prerequisite, material conditions of society for which a state is no longer necessary. The main disagreement is what these material conditions are. For Communists, those conditions will come into being during the higher stage of socialism. For Anarchists, those conditions already exist now.
>>2541470So was Ted Bundy also a state?
>>2541471C. You read Critique of the Gotha Program and start to realize the Proletarian State is actively abolishing itself in the process of revolution and if after your revolution a state remains it is not a proletarian one and what you are building will not be communist
D. You understand the reproduction of the proletariat is a fundamental failure of the communist revolution; that it is not the bourgeoisie that is central to capitalism, but the proletariat itself, the bourgeoisie is merely a personal coordinator for capital, the proletariat is its actual object and the only potential adversarial subject
>>2541455would be nice to have some actual polemics between reds and blacks but there doesn't seem to be a lot of engagement from the side of the latter
>>2541487there used to be lots of anarchists on leftypol but they were driven out by years of 16 year olds posting jucheism hardbass edits
>>2541495Nah they were just driven out by retarded jannies banning any criticism of stalinist retardation for like six to seven years
But then I guess the mods got bored or wanted to juice their numbers, or their wasnt a threat once the average poster became an utter retard, so they arent as inquisitorial anymore
That or bc they kept trying to purge each other and the userbase after a while so had to come up with a way to…not which meant being willing to just accept criticism from other kinds of socialists
>>2541502pretty sure the mods are anarchist now
>>2541507Nah it’s the same mods
>>2541485>the Proletarian State is actively abolishing itself in the process of revolutionSincere question, it's been many years since I last read
Critique of the Gotha Program. Where does it say this? I would like to revisit the passage without re-reading the entire work.
>>2541534Yup, I fully accept it. burgerville has been the one to bend the knee, the Zionist entity does not even listen to belches, wails, and grumbles of the burgerreich.
>>2541223It's more or less established that american demsocs will murder a million middle eastern muslims just to build one subway line
1 in 8 Americans are on SNAP. that's actually insane
>>2541547if that were true we'd be at war with Iran right now
>>2541559who says you arent
>>2541223>falling for an obvious GOP psyopcould you try and be less obvious about being an israeli fed
Time to Step Up // On the Loss of SNAP
What is required of us, as revolutionaries, in these times is tantamount to Sisyphus hoisting the boulder up the mountain, but we have failed to even grip the rock, to gain leverage over the boulder. Let's be completely real. There is no national program. No true revolutionary party. No unifying narrative for the masses, for us as revolutionaries to rally around. There has only been reformism and endless, seemingly insurmountable suffering. There has, for as long as I've lived, been nothing but violence against the people, from police brutality, to poverty, to industrialized sacrifice zones and genocide abroad, and now it has reached another fever pitch. 40 million people will lose their SNAP benefits in less than 5 days, why? Because the government has shut down. Warships are still arriving in Venezuela as I write this; there are some parts of the government that never shut down, even if those working there aren't getting paid, the imperialism must continue. The regime cannot and will not provide for the masses, but it will and must provide death for workers all across the planet. And now? We see that death brought home. We are facing conditions not seen since the Great Depression, this is reality, not spectacle, there is no algorithmically curating starvation.
One of the most purchased items with SNAP is baby formula. Those with babies who are losing access to SNAP will be staring down the barrel of state-mandated infant starvation. Imagine, a newborn, dehydrated, unable to cry, rooting around in despair for nutrients. This is an acceptable loss to the regime, to the United States Government; after all, they had no problem starving newborns in Gaza, it made the rich even richer to do so, and that is all that matters to the regime. It has become increasingly clear that the pseudo-representative government of the United States will not be re-opening for business, and in its place, a new authoritarian order has been created. You will be too busy dealing with your neighbors starving to deal with the encroachment of fascism. Too concerned with your own ends to worry about your neighbor being sent to a concentration camp. They do not believe we have the solidarity to with stand their siege. Did you know that over 50% of the food produced in the United States is destroyed to maintain prices? Food grown, cultivated, and destroyed to assure you go without, and a capitalist has more money in his Scrooge McDuck-esque vault. This is the anti-life regime at work.
The labor aspect of this intentional working-class starvation tactic cannot be ignored either. Wal-Mart is notorious for having workers sign up for SNAP benefits when they are hired; fast food giants like McDonald's are the same. These service industry jobs make up the bulk of steadily declining employment in the US. Thus then, it has never been a better time to advocate for disruptive unionization and organizing tactics. The government of the corporation is no longer subsidizing the wage slaves of these corporations; the raw deal of the working class has never been more exposed. This is the most fertile the soil has been for radical labor organizing in the last quarter century. The corporation, without the regime's subsidies, will be forced to either increase wages or deal with the consequences of subjecting millions to brutal, humiliating wage slavery. But it falls upon the revolutionary to organize, to agitate, to assure those consequences come to pass. There was a time in this country where men like Todd Vasos, CEO of Dollar General, would be tarred and feathered for his actions against the working class; perhaps we need to remind men like Todd, and all of the other vampires, that they too have hearts that can be staked.
“In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none.” - Kwame Ture
What is violence if not forcing a mother between feeding herself and her child? What is violence if not stealing bread from the poor to add another table to the infinite buffet of the rich? What is violence if not breaking up families, snatching men, women, and children off the street using armed soldiers of the regime? They are waging a war upon the working class, in order to sow repression and, knowing we have begun to organize knights to slay the dragon, the dragon has begun to protect its horde. Will it be violence when mass shoplifting occurs? Will it be violence when a local supermarket is occupied, the supplies taken and given directly to the community? Will it be violence when the police and their federal-backed goons attempt to reclaim that shopping center? Or will it simply be the next stage in this class war, a war forced upon us by these dragons, these ruling oligarchs, these capitalists?
All failures of organization within the working class fall on the left; the revolutionary must bear the burden of these failures. We must look at our material conditions and see clearly what we lack, why we lack it, and how we can gain it. This means applying the collective mindset to the individual. While we lack a national program, we still have a whole lot of ground game with all of these mutual aid organizations. We still have seen a myriad of victories with unionizing jobs in the service sector. We have numbers on an individual level. It takes 1 person to create an underground cell of 6 people. It takes those 6 people nothing more than popular support within their local communities and good planning to take what labor created and give it back to the working class. They want us to go without food, but they do not plant the fruit, nor do they water the fruit, nor do they pick the fruit. The capitalist class can only steal, and in my opinion, it's time we take back some of what was stolen.
This is a class war, and expecting your enemy to feed your people is simply ludicrous. The regime's government does not represent me, nor you, nor anyone else within the working classes. Our people are the masses, and the regime has made it clear that it only exists to extract profit value from us, without regard for life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness. The shutdown, the collapse into fascism, the wars waged abroad, the direct violence against the working class every. single. day. This iteration of the American project has shown, for over 2 centuries, that it does not exist to service any people other than the hyper-rich capitalist class, and we the people will always be enemies to that class. It is time to be revolutionaries, to throw our bodies into the battle that is class war; if you have the message, then you have the weapon. This message is to those who see themselves as against the machine; if we are the revolutionaries we claim we are, then it's time to get to work.
We need to be in our communities using our time, labor, and resources to bolster the resilience of them. Who is going to be going hungry? How can we use this to further community trust? Is the solution a localized community pantry within the third space? Is it moving from feeding people in the park once a week to three times a week? Is it distributing educational materials? Does your community really know what mutual aid is? Or why this collapse is happening? When the police come to burn the food, will someone be there to attempt to stop them? Can we move from filming the brutality to attempting to stop it? If they won't feed us, then why are we letting them operate their ports of economy? Labor runs the ports, and labor can collapse their economy, if it was organized. Their economy of death, humiliation ritual, and bureaucratic social murder does not serve us. We die, their line goes up. If the revolutionaries, however small we may be in number, fail to put our bodies, our minds, and our lives on the line, then we have failed the masses and this failure fails squarely on our shoulders. Time to step up.
>>2541570I WANT MY SNAP WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY TREATS
>>2541574The porkies have’em
>>2541566clearly israel doesnt always get what it wants
>>2541367Solved.
I still need to raise another $400 for next week and then I really need to resolve my cashapp issue, I owe them $380 dollars because I had to afterpay a motel stay and just havent had any extra cash to pay that off
I can't get cash out of an atm and having to go through other people is just making things more of a hassle for everyone than they need to be
>>2541600rob a bank like stalin and use the money to leave the US
>>2541216>in the mouth of madnessThat movie is about how "the guy who the story of our world controls us", basically about all these slovenly AI death cultists who try to control human thought, and Trump's cabinet of nosferatu's like Stephen Miller telling weird stories about "people only think I'm a demon because of Soros told them about my sickly pallor"
>>2541373>concentration camp for homeless peoplethe Zionist media refuses to use that term and calls it a "campus" in typical soy PMC Obama neoliberal fashion. LEARNING TO CODE WILL SET YOU FREE 💀
>>2541534>I love that it's just accepted now that ZOG is realIt's not
really ZOG, but it's a useful conspiracy to fuel. While Zionists psyop the western right and switcheroo atisemitism with islamophobia and benefit in the abstract from the idea antisemitism. In practice, Jews are a protected class wherever Zionism thrives. Nobody is actually going *do* big boy atisemitism there, much less in a systemic way. It's clowns like Fuentes, Abascal, Azov and "Tommy Robinson" all the way down. Most Jews seem to support Zionism anyway.
So this is more like accelerating the merger of Zionist and Jewish identity which is already true in NATO, in practice, beyond waht Zios are comfortable with. Except to the extent that it isn't, is either irrelevant minorities, or the same Zionist need to keep *a separate Jewish identity* alive to co-opt the virtues of because… well Zionism has many enemies.
For good reason, as well. It's inevitable to become reviled, being the enforcer arm of US hegemony in MENA. All the more if one also does that while being an anachronistic settler colony of racial supremacist loonies.
>>2541574REMEMBER THE DONALDOMOR >>2541600i think about how easy I would be to assassinate sometimes
>>2541620Not reading all that shit, it's ZOG
>Western intelligence says Iran has imported 2,000 tons of sodium perchlorate from China to the port of Bandar Abbas since late September, defying renewed UN sanctions. The shipments are believed to support efforts to rebuild missile stockpiles depleted in June’s war with Israel. — CNN
based anti imperialist China
>>2541277The distinction is entryism INTO A LIBERAL PARTY vs entryism by proclaimed socialist parties.
>>2541621If I lived in the US this would be an actual fear of mine constantly
>>2541608Bruh… are you actually this dumb?
The war is coming in a few months.
>>2541602Zohran is so fucking based
>>2541621Personally I adhere to post-dialogism, which is to say I think all disputes and disagreements should be solved with assassination. Debating is bourgeois
>>2541630people have been saying that since 2003
>>2541628It kind of bothers me that whenever I post some of my shit on reddit there's always 2 or 3 people who are like "you're a crazy person, you can't say this, you know they'll kill you etc etc"
Like, uh yeah? I thought we were all aware that talking about this sort of shit in seriousness has that implication? I've got 20k weekly readers, nearly a million website visitors by IP, over 600k of those in the last year. That means that half a million people could have read things like:
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=132908&title=on-luigi-a-selection-of-quotesAll those visitors and weekly readers and Means.tv still won't collaborate in any capacity. Meanwhile the right loves to host other right wingers. Fuentes was just on Tucker, will Houdini ever be on Trueanon? Make that make sense.
>>2541638Yeah and we had round one earlier in the year, did you miss that?
Based american proletariat will do revolution any day now
>>2541620>It's not really ZOG…It's inevitable to become reviled, being the enforcer arm of US hegemony in MENA<"Platner is a commited anti-fascist"yes, he is antifa: Platner is a Zionist agent who destroys nations for international finance capital to install a pedophile ruling class in Afghanistan or Iraq or Libya or Syria or Ukraine or (insert "Stalinist authoritarian dictatorship" country which every woke "anti-fascist" has all aligned with the CIA and nazis to destroy for the Jeffrey Epstein finance imperialists in New York City)
>>2541570>One of the most purchased items with SNAP is baby formulaA certain group of people who wrote the textbook on being an imperialist death cultist takes religious delight in kids getting surgery without anesthesia, and I'm not just talking about circumcision!
>>2541639Holy shit this man has a newspaper. He is just like Lenin. He is the ideological center
>>2541639you realize most web traffic now is AI scanner bots? do you have anubis set up on your website?
>>2541645this but unironically
>>2541646the way the site is written is written with this in mind, the AI can't browse the actual content of the site due to the SPA based back end. it's all custom code, DIY
But yes, I'm aware that a chunk of the visits will be bots and crawlers, but probably much less so than twitter
>>2541643>and I'm not just talking about circumcisionTell us anon, what ARE you referring to? Speak your mind and tell us in detail about these surgeries (((they))) are supposedly encouraging the kids to get
>>2541640did you miss that it ended despite the israelis demanding an iraq style invasion?
>>2541647Not even Le ICP has this kind of reach i bet. Le houdini must announce on his le newspaper an all american congress and make a party or some shit
>>2541639How do you know they're not scrapers feeding ChatGPT 6
>>2541643It really is something that modern American MLoids are so hitlerite and nationalist they openly try transfixing the crimes of the USA onto jews lmao
Buddy, Platner wasn’t slaughtering Iraqis for anyone but the American Empire, you can’t wash your hands of this
Felix add me on session:
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>>2541664>American MLoidsAs?
>>2541668SNAP is about to go snap and cause food riots
>>2541672You can’t have a food riot if everyone is obese
>>2541675The obesity simply makes the hunger worse
>>2541146AF Post stands for America First Post. It's a news org run by groypers.
>>2541574>snap is treats Online MLoids are such out of touch perma-teenagers
>>2541677Doesn’t matter if you physically can’t get up and walk let alone fight in the street
zohran status?
>>2541683ICE is walking around well enough, and their fitness standards are abysmal. I think we’ll be just fine.
>>2541638>since 2003>the US government deployed troops in:Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Libya
Sudan
and some other countries in Africa, besides Sudan.
the US is in perpetual war.
>>2541690you forgot Somalia and Yemen
>>2540711>>2540722You are completely wrong.
https://www.aol.com/news/zohran-mamdani-pushes-800-hate-045605766.htmlZiohran will increase the zionist police budget to 800%. Ziohran spends TOO MUCH GODDAMN time groveling to the NYC zionist communities and calling hamas terrorist for this not to be the case.
>>2541288I think the problem with American politics is that we’re not that collective of a people. For however angry people get, for however low Trump’s approval is, at the end of the day it feels as though people are “on their own” in a way.
Of course this is something to fight against, but it’s a major obstacle to organizing.
Also in regards to living in a broken reality, TIL some Conservatives genuinely think Trump didn’t tear down the east wing of the White House. Like they think it’s all imaginary or lies.
>>2541639that is genuinely impressive reach man. converting that grindset shit to organizing has served you well and i mean that sincerely. you just need to convert a little back to a part time job to keep yourself in a halfway stable living situation, bc otherwise this kind of thing is unsustainable and youll burn out.
can you post receipts showing the reach? i believe you but wanna see it for myself
>>2541724yeah Platner is the actual socialist here willing to admit israel is a terrorist state
>>2540712nobody on leftypol reads enough theory to answer this, which is why they think the answer is B if some reformist like Platner comes along and says so
>>2541740somehow better on the israel issue than AOC and zohran
>>2541742Clearly you don't because you don't give an answer lmao
>>2541744Yeah because he wants to put Jews in concentration camps lmao
>>2541744>the actual socialistno.
>somehow better than AOC and Zohranyes because the bar is so low it makes the earth's core look like heaven
>>2541747hitler was zionist in the sense that he willingly deported jews to palestine as settlers even after some of his top guys warned him this would create a jewish state they would have to deal with later on.
>>2541749name another american politician that's called israel a terrorist state
>>2541750>Nazis didn't set up their own gun clubs and community organisationsRead uygha
>>2541753>name another american politician who engaged in this particular rhetorical flourishyour standards seem very low, but to answer your question I do not know of any.
>>2541755Perhaps Platner is some kind of 'third wayist' if you will?
>>2540761>this isn't about electoralism it's about politics tho. that has scope outside of just getting elected.for example, Leftypol will call Platner a nazi all day long but the guy's resume is arguably more appealing to "white working class" types than a typical DSA leftist(homeless, trans, brown, etc) who if anything scare "Americans" away from the Left by being so different from what they're used to.
I really don’t think that’s the case; we’ve got some trans politicians elected and black ones as well. Which isn’t to say “race is irrelevant” but rather it can be overcome. What matters is pitching a concept of unity that everyone can take part in equally.
Not to sound too chuded out here, but I’m pretty sure that sociologists have done studies for decades and the conclusion has continuously been that emphasizing similarities fosters teamwork. However in rhetoric the wider left (though libs are far more noxious in this regard) love pointing out how they’re different. And while there’s claims that it’s “widening the struggle” to do, I dunno, indigenous land acknowledgements or introduce yourself as a “trans person of color” I’d argue the evidence says otherwise. There was a stat I saw weeks ago that was along the lines of most Americans think the Democrats “care about minorities” but the number of people who think they “care about workers” has collapsed. And while people will try to point out that they don’t care about workers, obviously, at the very least it’s showing that the two stats don’t necessarily walk hand in hand in most people’s minds.
You need rhetoric and propaganda that shows people you’re the same, you’re on their side.
>>2541753>name another american politician that's called israel a terrorist stateConsidering that Platner is a confirmed Nazoid whose every word about his past is a lie. I could not care less about anti-zionist platitudes.
Or his other electoral promises for that matter. The only base of support Platner can have are those NPCs willing to look past him being an enthusiastic mass murderer. Those won't hold him to any standard especially on Israel. His support is entirely reliant on the left wing of the Dems astroturfing the shit out of his made up electoral persona .
>>2541758because calling it a genocide is one thing, but israel is particularly sensitive to the terrorist label since they could actually be designated as one of enough people are saying it, and it comes with consequences. I wouldn't be surprised if the alarm bells are already going off in the israeli foreign affairs office to get this guy far away from the senate seat
>>2541771have you seen dem polling data on israeli favorability? being pro-israel is going to be a poison pill for a lot of politicians going forward lol. the voterbase has completely shifted in tone
>>2541777Come to think of it I doubt leftypol will care either because she doesn't explicitly uphold Marxism Leninism
>>2541679It's fucking insane that random twitter accounts were able to be lifted to the level of news org just by buying the blue checkmark. Everyone on xitter is getting their news from guys calling themselves Walter Bloomberg and Michael Forbes
Didn't Platner get the tattoo covered with some Nordic rune shit? Couldn't he have tried a little harder to hide his power level?
>>2541750Why are there so many feds at mutual aid events?
>>2541791I was trying to figure out what Platner’s new tattoo meant but it seems a bit more esoteric if it has a similar meaning.
>>2541791It's Celtic not Germanic. He is VercingetorixBol now
>>2541799What point do you imagine I'm trying to make right now.
>>2541740God his bod looks like shit. I don’t get why women like the “dad bod” so much. It’s fucking disgusting
>>2541801You keep jerking off to this guy claiming he’s anti Zionist and communist yet does it ever occur to you that he’s lying?
>>2541808How did you imagine this post was dickriding platner:
>the USA is also a terrorist state and the USA has helped its partner terrorist state Israel carry out its terrorism to great effect in the middle east. But Platner would never say that because he is running for a position in the Yanqui Knesset after two decades of doing Yanqui Terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq, both for the Yanqui public sector (Marine corps) and private sector (Blackwater).Like seriously. Did you start off by responding to the wrong post and it's been one long misunderstanding? I can't imagine any other explanation other than illiteracy.
>>2541816Rare empanada W
I have very little patience for 'le based veterans', if you are actually a leftist now then you should be ashamed of your service and not constantly going on about it
>>2541807Everyone on /leftypol/ mocks Chuds for having small chins. Why not mock this disgusting shitlib bod
>>2541819>>2541815Sorry I am retarded and got confused by who was what.
>>2541823Oh ok, that make sense, sorry I got heated
>>2541816The average American has the literacy rate of a 6th/8th grader. The average American cannot even afford a $1000 emergency, let alone proper healthcare, education, rent (which for many takes up at least 25% of their entire income)… The whole point of scientific socialism is supposed to be based in an understanding of the material conditions of society in order to bring about a better world. How does this smug condescension ignoring the realities of the average person in society solve anything?
>>2541803>I don’t get why women like the “dad bod” so muchReal talk? they only like it if the guy is over 6 feet. i saw a hottie the other day with her husband waiting in line at the drug store. she was gorgeous but her husband was a giant obese fetterman ogre. But of course he's like 6'5" and she's like 4'11". That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Cishet women are just shrekpilled. I think it is the biological memory of hunter gatherer times when calorie intake and height were highly decisive matters when it came to being able to protect your tribe, whereas now you just pull out the glock when someone fucks with you.
>>2541839It doesn't but the point remains that people could literally get any random job other than joining the military to pay their bills
>>2541841This is actually a good explanation honestly. It seems like eugenics is being practiced this way.
>>2541841>But of course he's like 6'5" and she's like 4'11".is it a sort of humiliation fetish for those women? most het couples i see are roughly equal in height, mostly in favor of the male but exceptions exist, rarer but i've touched enough grass to see lots of them (urbanite)
>>2541839>classic poor ameriKKKan fallacyThree quarters of ameriKKKans are overweight. Its not like theyre joining millitary to live
>>2541841>>2541846>>2541852you're all fucking incel brainlets holy shit kill yourselves
Kill everyone
>>2541857What was it? Le biological memory thing?
>>2541857it's just retarded sexist bs
guys we're at 500 post, time to fill up the rest of the thread with body shamers vs. incels fighting each other
Well looks like I was right. Leftypol would rather talk about incel science than the fact that a Palestinian congressional candidate is being charged by the DOJ for the crime of protesting outside an ICE facility
>>2541875Fascist talking points tickle the lizard brain and stimulate the gut. It's easier than thinking.
>>2541877>people are just baiting each other for fun, it's totally not passive aggressive bullying used to reveal one's true feelings about the unspoken eugenics social caste systemlol the conversation literally started with "dad bods are disgusting" but nobody called that out as "incel"
>>2541857i'm the last post (you) quoted and what exactly is incel about this shit
>het couples i see are roughly equal in height, mostly in favor of the male but exceptions exist, rarer but i've touched enough grass to see lots of themdon't incels hurl and cry and threaten to kill themselves daily if they're an inch shorter than the national average?
>>2541878Which is why we’ll never have communism, it’s too much reading and people will always find reasons to split and bicker
>>2541882also people think communism is when you elect war criminals to the yanqui knesset if they promise to break up monopolies and make more small businesses
>>2541884Dawg nobody cares about Platner anymore
>>2541884The US doesn’t have a Hamas ready to break down the doir and dismantle it
>>2541887source?
>>2541888that's the problem innit
>>2541879I thought people on social media bait each other for attention and engagement
>>2541891>I thought people on social media bait each other for attention and engagementthe form the bait takes reveals things about society. when you bait men by telling them they'll never be loved if they're short, and when you bait women by telling them they'll never be loved if they're fat, it's eugenics ideology disguised as schoolyard bullying.
>>2541879Maybe people do take delight in rubbing it to undesirables face so openly
>>2541894>undesirablesproving my point, but that was already proven in a conversation that started with "why do women like dad bods, they're so disgusting"
>>2541895There are undesirables though
>>2541895it's the w*men that are disgusting
the man's body is shit but the w*mxn is the one eating it
>>2541889>>2541878Well we can always try now
Honestly Abby Gazebo was always too popular and genuinely anti-Zionist for the state to not go after her, but she doesn't have as big of a national presence even though she's running for congress rather than just mayor. My guess is that they're going to use her as a test case, and if they can successfully get away with bringing bogus charges against her and imprison or even deport her back to Palestine they're absolutely going to arrest Zohran too
mods. obliterate the blatant intentional derailing incel discussion NOW
To a woman a man's gut is like a woman's booba to man
>>2541904no, women like ass
>>2541904do women get horny as fuck watching disembowelment videos
>>2541874they obeyed you without hesitation
If this thread isn’t evidence that nothing good can come out of the poisoned tree that is America I don’t know what is
>>2541916You are a defeatist
>>2541916Not when so much effort goes to stifling discussion and shutting down any talk of action with either complaining about Zohran or Platner or just completely irrelevant incel shit. Just a whole lot of bad faith wreckers all around these days
>>2541918Almost like communists have been defeated over and over and over again
>>2541815>that picFunctional illiteracy has to be at 40-50%. You can't make a post without some a response .2s later that reads it completely backwards and gives barely a sentence fragment as a response. It's from growing up on twitch streams and twitter. They can only process 200 characters before needing an energy drink and a tab of Adderall.
>>2541919What the fuck are you gonna do? Drive to the meeting?
>>2541924Organize a raid on an ICE facility maybe? It's better than nothing
>>2541918Nazi Germany didn’t defeat itself in a workers revolution, neither will the us
>>2541922this is why it's important to talk to people IRL. they can still aggressively misinterpret you and interrupt you IRL but it becomes much more obvious to everyone that they're a dick when doing so.
>>2540490You're a gay megafaggot homosexual for making a corporate reddit snoo avatar.
>>2540493The average not online leftist supports selectively voting for leftist candidates while /leftypol/ melts down over that. /leftypol/ is incredibly out of touch. You don't have to agree with voting but completely abandoning it isn't with the majority.
>>2541925All of your electronics are primed to explode before you do anything, including your car, they hear every thought you have and would kill you instantly if they thought you were in any way serious in a manner that doesn’t fit neatly in their plans
>>2541919Action without theoretical clarity is worse than useless. Houdini's newspaper will be le ideological center of le american popular movement. Not worker's though, houdini isnt classist sadly
>>2541929Paranoid defeatism and even if that were true I would rather die trying to free the world from this bullshit than live a life without meaning so bring it on
>>2541930Literally no theory applies to a postmodern economy like we live in
>>2541928>You're a gay megafaggot homosexual for making a corporate reddit snoo avatar. not him and also not a platnerite but you do realize screenshots get passed around righgt? just because anon posted a screenshot doesn't mean he took it himself or that it's his account the screenshot was taken from.
>>2541935So walk and stuble around blindly it is then. Le activism? Le voluntarism?
>>2541930You dont need "theoretical clarity" to know that we live in an inhumane system that relies on repression and exploitation in increasingly brutal ways to sustain itself and that electoralism isn't going to save us. A few of us actually dedicated to freeing humanity from the nightmare that is capitalism would be better than nothing
>>2541935ok then go out and do practice until you have enough experience to write a theory which does correspond to the current state of affairs
>>2541937You have to wait
>>2541938Theory is very important
>>2541936I got upset and made an assumption.
> you do realize screenshots get passed around righgt? No.
>>2541939There is nothing to be done in this situation, you cannot even get people to agree on basic realities
>>2541938it's not enough to recognize a problem. you need a proper solution. otherwise you're like a medieval towsnman drinking mercury to cure syphilis
>>2541943>There is nothing to be donewhy even come here and talk if you think this. go play video games until your PC melts due to climate change
i feel like if you explained to marx the condition of the world in 2025 he'd hang himself
>>2541948Because this is more fun
>>2541945But we do have a solution, and that solution is to destroy the bourgeois state and establish communism. All of us here that are acting in good faith broadly agree on that. At minimum we need a system with guaranteed housing and food for all that doesn't sustain itself on imperialism or prejudice. A classless stateless society of free worker's associations collaborating to fulfill people's needs and wants is our destination, and the first step towards that destination is to seize power
>>2541942I see. Thank you for saying that. Most wouldn't.
>>2541952They have nuclear weapons and you can’t even get proles to meet each other for bowling leagues
>>2541952ok then, sounds like you have theoretical clarity
>>2541955I think one of the things that are more unique about the time we live in is that people are physically atomized but intellectually they are talking with each other more than ever. I have probably exchanged thousands of words with some of you on here but I will never personally see you.
>>2541955The nukes are aimed at other countries, not at our own territory. And it's actually not that difficult to get proles to organize if you give them a reason to show up, and considering things are pretty quickly becoming life or death we should be able to gather large numbers. People are literally going to start starving by the millions in three days because the government is busy defending a pedophile cabal, it has never been easier to get the masses on board with the idea of resistance and popular uprising
>>2541950he'd probably get very very drunk and write a very bummed out letter to Engels but I don't think he would kill himself.
>>2541955Revolutionary victory has never required technical superiority. It requires the disintegration of bourgeois command from within. In every victorious revolution, it was fraternization, sabotage, and mutiny not military parity that ended bourgeois rule.
Each ruling class, when faced with the oppressed classes, has possessed, over the passage of centuries, its own horrifying threat of destruction as alternative to the rise of its class enemies. Right in the middle of revolutionary Paris stood the Bastille, formidably fortified, militarily impregnable, armed with cannons and ammunition, enough to obliterate the populated urban sprawl, the homes of the sans-culottes. But the Bastille was not taken by the insurgent mob following regular military action, with a siege, etc. It fell from within, symbolizing the landslide that was occurring in the fabric of society: those who should have used the terrible weapon against the insurrectionary masses were themselves stricken by the far more terrible threat that the Revolution forced the stunned ruling class to face
>>2541839>How does this smug condescension ignoring the realities of the average person in society solve anything?Cause the point is to be smug “I’m better than you” types I imagine.
>>2541608clearly israel pretends it's been restrained by drumpf while it rearms for the next bout and you eat it up
>>2541962I think when SNAP and food stamps runs out it's going to push people back into the arms of the church. whenever secular state welfare gets cut in burgerland people get more religious suddenly because they need to suck up to preachers and pulpits for help.
>>2541965 (me)
Copied from le ICP site
>>2541960Most of that communication is schizos reinforcing each other and egging each other on until suicide or murder
>>2541962If their defeat was inevitable they would much rather glass the world than let you rule it
>>2541969Why would it do that when American Christianity is exactly as keen on social darwinism as the Republicans are? These people literally preach that childhood illnesses are God's way of culling the weak and we're defying His will by treating them, you think they're going to give charity to the "useless eaters"? That all said, it is true that people have an instinctive desire to believe in some kind of higher power or force, so a secular cult of the revolution might be useful in that regard, but that's another topic.
>>2541977I know what you're talking about but I think that's a bit of an overstatement.
>>2541980>a secular cult of the revolution might be usefulRobespierre, is that you?
>>2541216It's part of the fascist control system (inb4 pedantic "he's a lib, not a fascist") to construct a reality for themselves predicated on myth and images of violence. Trump even follows the cliche of giant projects that don't do anything, like his wall or this shit about remodeling the white house. It's just in a total, farcical state. I recall seeing something during the LA riots where they had cops rappelling off helicopters for absolutely no reason. It's a joke.
The only saving grace is that it's inherently unstable. You can't have meth addicts who believe in homeopathic remedies and other barbaric rituals running the most powerful nation on earth without shit going wrong. Whoever comes after Trump cannot do the same shit as the economic crisis he's stirring gets worse.
If he does try for a third term, hopefully that's enough to wake up the baby leftist liberals that the DNC secretly approves of everything he does. Probably not, but we'll see.
>>2541978Even if the bourgeoisie suddenly got it in their heads to nuke the rest of the world it's not that easy. There's a ridiculous amount of safeguards for most of these nuclear missiles precisely to prevent some maveric from launching them willy nilly without full government and military approval, and then you have to actually control all the silos and hope that nobody stationed there decides to disobey orders. So no, if the bourgeoisie are in a position where they're losing then they're not going to be able to simply nuke everyone
>>2541977it's not like there's anything wrong with murdering the right people.
>>2541990vgh i can't believe a NEHcel saved the world
>>2541969i could see that happening in some places. not in the protestant mega church territory but maybe in places where the catholic church is strong. it won't be the majority of the pop tho
Women like dad bods because they're normal and healthy bodies. Your perception of males bodies is warped by advertising designed to make you insecure and movies where actors dehydrate for days to make their abs pop.
Graham Platner doesn't have a dad bod he's a fat piece of shit in that pic. He's a disgusting subhuman slob but more importantly he's a fucking demon war criminal with a lust for third world baby blood and he should have been executed for crimes against humanity years ago. Seriously what kind of person signs up to join Blackwater in 2018?
>>2541773You forgot about the CCOG (Chi Com Occupied Government)
>>2541996>what kind of person signs up to join blackwater?Thrill seeking middle class guys who romanticise war?
powell said "money machine is on a lil bit" and the markets are all insanely green lol
>>2541996>movies where actors dehydrate for days to make their abs pop.this isn't talked about enough.
Fuck it, I hope the JDPON kills me
>>2542013the real bernie sanders betrayal happened in the 1990s when he supported the NATO bombing of yugoslavia. that's when michael parenti stopped vistiing him and that's proof that the senate turns people into monsters in the name of "pragmatism" if they weren't already monsters
>>2542007>greenGo green
Ejaculation machine
Notification go green
Get that ass banned
G-get that ass banned
>>2541839>>2541967i like this little game where americans are functionally illiterate innocent children who cant grasp obvious concepts most people have an intuitive grasp of like "the military kills people", there's no point in being smug about how retarded americans are, because you are already in agreement about it
>>2542018I think it was the Amazing atheist that said
“More people have died in the name of pragmatism than of any ideology” or something like that
>>2541839>The average American has the literacy rate of a 6th/8th grader.This explains so much about this BOW (Burger occupied website).
>>2541978even if they were able to, i'm just not convinced the bourgeois would rather rule over the ashes. their lavish lifestyles of xanaduian retreats and cosmopolitan gilded castle parties would not sustain themselves in a post nuclear apocalypse, i think this is a fantasy, they really don't want to go in the bunker and be at the mercy of the insane mercenary holding the gun once fiat money ceases to be.
>>2540915its to include the black african diaspora. actually not as silly a thing as it sounds, considering at a certain point it gets hard to talk about e.g. caribbean history and culture without an understanding of africa, and to a lesser extent vice versa.
>>2540880>Grant<Failure>Johnson >AverageThis has to be the worst ranking I have ever seen.
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