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>>2542031Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
 actual previous thread (my B) 
>>2543588>>2544799You need a mentally ill sexual pervert to tell you it's over for you to realize?
 >>2544799the bourgeoisie imagine the problem is malthusian overpopulation so they're going to kill us all off after they imagine that they've automated enough and then cross their fingers and hope they can fly around in their private jets forever once we're gone
 >>2544799I think everyone’s problem is that they’re not comfortable throwing whatever life they have away for something that’s not guaranteed, it’s not a good thing to be alone and isolated like the Weathermen were, cut off from the lives of normal people
 >>2544803I think many of us are willing to go full Rambo and fight the fight now. But without enough numbers and support, it’s a waste. I write opinion articles for a newspaper, and when I read this kind of news it just feels so fruitless. We are already over the educating part. We should be taking action. But there’s no popular movement.
 what is your major malfunction numbnuts
Only steers and queers come from texas, and you don’t look like a steer to me so that narrows it down a bit
>>2544818I feel this. But I think Americans just aren't mentally prepared for violence they just see it as a spontaneous thing that is supposed to happen organically. They don't make an effort to stockpile goods or learn how to use guns or network with allies because "that's boring" and then nothing happens.
It really would be as simple as one person deciding to take it upon themselves to organize their friends and helping them buy guns and becoming vocal and active in their local community, but no one wants to be the guy.
 it's time to get on that professional revolutionary grindset whiteboy
the new socialist newspaper is short form video content for tik tok or instagram
>>2544826Average Daily Visitors: 3000~
Average Weekly Visitors: 20,000~
Total Visitors since January: 550,000~
 >>2544820>>2544821why you droppin gunnery sergeant hartman quotes… did you dress as him for halloween?
 >>2544827and half of them are ai bots scraping content for ai training.
 >>2544799>headlineIs it even worth it to have children anymore? I've been working towards being able to afford to have a kid in the next 10 years, but besides the finances, that outcome also depends on whether it is even ethical to have a child when you know this could be their future.
 >>2544835the worst thing is that I bet that it is true lmao
 >>2544835>halfgenerous. try 90%
 is there anywhere to organize online that isn't a social media site or discord?
like a more privacy focused environment?
>>2544843rightoids also chimped out at mr. rogers back in the day for being against segregation
 >>2544846Candace and MTG are going to be Marxists by this time next year just because they hated Israel's genocide in Gaza so much.
See, sometimes people are human even through all the right-wing propaganda they're fed.
 >>2544846i was watching it for a little while then halfway through she stopped to advertise some steaks.
 >>2544850Lol yeah I saw that too. They ended now
 >>2544846She mogs Platner
 >>2544846Norm is saying le Hamas rapes didn't happen and the chat is saying he's awesome.
 >>2544843I’m kind of ashamed to admit it but I’ve often thought of ironic punishments as a form of penance for these right wing grifters. Like instead of just straight up Gulags, force Tim Pool to work a real job with a wage in this constructed factory town. Then pay him just enough that he has to go one or two days without food, and when he complains he’s hungry, just show him this tweet.
Grifter denies climate change? Force him to work in the most climate ravaged parts of the world and make him reflect on what he said every day. Guy laughs at the suffering of Palestinians? Bombard him every day with the crimes Israel committed.
 >>2544827>websiteswhy are you using legacy media still? the algorithm is what gets peoples eyes on stuff. adapt brother adapt
 >>2544799and to think exxon mobile knew these results in the 70s, they attacked their own research team, and after all, the initial exxon team was right all along.
and that's merely the adjusted models, now 
the models can no longer be tested against current observations, which is very concerning.capitalist greed will burn us all.
 https://www.americansurveycenter.org/quiz/I'll be honest this quiz is kinda blackpilling me. The median voter has completely incoherent politics. 8/16 btw
 >>2544860Fucking Antonio man
 >>2544859I mean I think you can spin it as a positive to say that, in fact, strong rhetoric and messaging can be incredibly important. Like you don’t have to try as hard necessarily, just make a strong pitch.
Course we’re kind of handicapped in that regard, but assuming we choose to be competent then that opens more options for us.
 >>2544855Red Guards sort of did this during the Cultural revolution, a teacher that was being rightist or KMT sympathetic had to wear a dunce hat
 >>2544864I think the Norks did something similar by getting GIs in the Korean War they captured to confront the civilians that suffered under American bombing.
Course the Catholic in me believes in redemption. I think the goal should be rehabilitation over pure sadistic punishment, forcing these people to bear the consequences of their own ideals walks a fine line between the two.
 >>2544865Oh, something I should say is it should be mostly restricted to vocal grifters. Some guy in the Midwest that’s the mark and was told climate change isn’t real can probably be educated once the grifters are gone.
 >>2544859plain stupid. some respondents presented a bunch of options, then the answer for their pick wasn't related at all to their options.
like: 
abortions, 
immigration vouchers then 
BAM I voted for X candidate because of economics.
or some people leaning toward one candidate, simply didn't vote.
 >>2544849The woman by default. But I don't have children and don't plan to have them
 Got back from taking the kid trick or treating. Saw multiple houses sporting both Ukraine and Palestine flags. Also I have neighbor near by whos house was offering free communist manifestos but they weren’t home and didn’t decorate for Halloween. Their neighbor was super nice though.
>>2544871you shouldn't use WSJ for anything other than raw economic data/reports; their opinion/editorials are basically breitbart
 >>2544870>multiple houses sporting both Ukraine and Palestine flags.platnercoded
 >>2544859>The median voter has completely incoherent politics. 8/16 btwI think that's more a reflection of the incoherent politics of the political and pmc classes. Their politics are nonsense for ideological and structural reasons, and that prevents them from engagjng with the "median voter" (whatever that is) in any meaningful or constructive way. 
Like, I've been polled by these people before and they a priori reject any idea or sentiment that falls outside of "do you prefer a, b or c." So take the example of the Democrats right now that are trying to grapple with their second loss to Trump. Everything outside of their bourgeois ideological bubble points to "you lost because you didn't offer people any material benefit and even cut back what was already there," and the response from these ivy league scholars is "we lost because we aren't killing trans people." Anything looks insane if you're viewing it through an insane lens.
 >>2544872specially when the OpEds are written by zionist billionaires.
 >>2544875>>2544875>>2544859
>The median voter has completely incoherent politics. 8/16 btwnah, it's more because they created traps along the article, as I've explained here: 
>>2544868. If there had been two options, excluding 'didn't vote', I would have had a 12/16 score.
 >54% of U.S. adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level, and 64% of our country’s fourth-graders do not read proficiently, per the National Literacy Institute.
>>2544857>why are you using legacy media still? the algorithm is what gets peoples eyes on stuff. adapt brother adaptThe algorithm is rigged by billionaires to favor fascists.
 >>2544871Calling it right now; we’ll have a recession sometime in the next few months and they’re gonna call it the “Zohran Recessiouyghheads from Blackstone will come out of the blue to say “Socialism destroyed the financial capitol of the world.”
 >>2544883The filter is way too strong.
“Zohran recession”*
 >>2544887notice that both of them are women
 >>2544886I like the now traditional juke towards blaming covid before admitting the real cause
>The dip in reading scores appeared alongside a shift in how English and language arts are taught in schools, with an emphasis on short texts and book excerpts, said Carol Jago, associate director of the California Reading and Literature Project at UCLA. As a high school English teacher 20 years ago, Jago said it was common for her high school students to read 20 books over the course of a year. Now, some English classes are assigning just three books a year.Even though it leaves out explaining why this change happened and who was responsible. There are no causes, only effects!
 >>2544888A dude might get the shit kicked in depending on the community. Hardly anyone's touching especially a white one. Maybe a family member might beat them but that'll probably be for other reasons.
 >>2544889>“We don’t know exactly what the cause of it is, but it would be incomplete to assume that if we hadn’t had COVID, the score would not have gone down,” Cunningham said. “That’s not what the data showed even before the pandemic.” WE KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE IS! WE'VE BEEN KNOWING WHAT THE CAUSE IS! SUCCESSIVE ADMINISTRATIONS FROM REAGAN TO CLINTON TO BUSH TO OBAMA TO TRUMP HAVE BEEN SABOTAGING THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM!!! I FEEL LIKE I'M LOSING MY MIND!!!!!!!!
 >>2544890*hardly anyone's touching a woman
 >>2544885>>2544883with trump restoring the rule and law, invading NYC.
 >>2544888>>2544890Some friends of mine were at a party when they learned some skinheads were attending, instantly the skins zoomed in on the one Hispanic guy in the group and some methed up bitch started screaming for them to beat him.
I’ve seen a racist white dude or two, but nowhere near as aggressive and hostile and bizarrely commonplace as racist white women. It’s insane. I had to intervene in one particularly bad case at a Rite Aid years back.
 is it weird to hit on girls at protests
>>2544903does anyone have that ukraine/israel political compass meme on hand i forgot to save it
 >>2544901It's never weird to hit on girls if they like it
 >>2544896>I’ve seen a racist white dude or two, but nowhere near as aggressive and hostile and bizarrely commonplace as racist white women. It’s insane.Nazi chicks legitimately scare me. The men, no, but the women seem like the kind of person who'll stab you.
>>2544900>This is the future of the Republican party btwMore the present-day Republican Party if you ask me.
 >>2544905at a place where ppl will on guard for feds?
 >>2544908hitting on big booty fed infiltrators to make them arrest you and blow their cover
 >>2544910democrats are praying so hard that israel does their thing so they can put the sexual predator in office instead of a socialist.
 >>2544907I don’t want to sound like a chauvinist but I think part of it is not having an expectation of violence being visited on you? Like, men are the expendable gender under present cultural circumstances. It’s just kind of expected to die in some way. Women? Violence against them is considered a heinous aberration. Like let’s not forget that a huge motive behind lynching was spurious allegations by white women of black men being “indecent” to them.
So I think for some of them there’s a perceived ability to escalate indefinitely without consequence.
 >>2544914You definitely notice it with some women that aren't even nazis that just escalate shit way beyond what is normal because they assume their gender affords them immunity from violence.
Of course I hate bringing this up because it just sounds like justifying violence against women as "they had it coming" but maybe we need to do away with the whole "don't hit girls" thing if it puts society back on an even playing field of mutual respect. Then again, 90% of violent crime is still committed by men so it's not like women are going out of their way to commit violence on others. They're usually just annoying as fuck at worst.
 >>2544915the atlantic piece is fucking pathetic
 >>2544915the entirety of american news media are parasites that never miss an opportunity to farm clicks from inflaming controversies.
 >>2544916The one moment I had something close to blackout rage was when this white woman was making a menace of herself in a Rite Aid. She was caught stealing as far as I could tell, and started mean-mugging the cashier, was asked to either pay for her product or leave, escalated to some poor black lady that worked there coming over to try and talk her down. She threw the product on the floor and started stomping on it. Then she mocked the employees accent.
>”Oh, you wanna AXE me a question? Huh? Huh? You wanna AXE me something ‘homegirl’? Huh bitch?!”Ended up with me having a flashback to every shitty customer I had, walking up to her, and just yelling in her face she’s an unlovable cunt harassing people that don’t get paid enough to put up with her bullshit. I actually had to get escorted out of the store lol
 >>2544921i can fix her(by giving her a gun)
 >>2544924uhh something something trans something be mad
 >>2544921i am going to die alone
 >>2544924Surely the comment will be civil and is in no way a kneejerk reaction to trash a certain sexuality
 >>2544933/pol/ is braindead and "white" is made up
 >>2544917I think Atlantic has a reason to be panicking. Like, if you compare it to the rise of the far right in other countries (say, the rise of Lega Nord in Italy after the corruption scandal) there are no 'big' events in the US that you can point to as the origin of Nick Fuentes. There are no unite the right rallies, no demolition of house of worship, no racially charged controversial encounters, etc. For many established liberals Fuentes just emerged out of nowhere. And using the power of social media no less, something most millenials think will bring forth a social liberal hegemony where everyone is secular and rational and talks like rationalwiki admins
Instead we see the return of the repressed: Nick Fuentes, but also other forms of right wing extremisms that are internet and youtube savy (i.e see the rise of ISIS-affiliated telegram channels). But the good news about this is that the left, too is also returning from the grave through the same mechanism, and suddenly it is cool to talk about class and inequality again, and the last time you see this was during the anti-globalization, anti-gmo movements of the 2000 era left
 >>2544932ah, yes, she was.
>>2544921 she didn't rage-quit, tho? she even said 'thanks for having me', which is a very common way to say bye bye (or greeting) in podcasts.
someone in the chat:
>throwing labubus is illegal.lel
 >>2544939I just copy pasted the title from /pol/ tbh.
 >>2544938Funny enough I think the anti globalization protests were also supported by Pat Buchanan, who was the predecessor to a lot of this paleocon stuff.
 >>2544933Ask them to post eyes close-up photos, skin color, and hair color photos of them. they run like cockroaches after turning on the lights when you ask them evidence of their whiteness compared to any other white person.
shit, she's blonde as hell.
 >>2544933do you think she'll go out with me if i pay her bail
 >>2544887Brittany Venti is one of those quarter black people who became uncle ruckus for some reason
 >>2544935they're clearly charging her because she's running for office. it's political
>>2544921never rage quit an interview when you're running for office. if you're asked trollbait questions just firmly and confidently reject their premise and or framework, or at least point out the question is loaded, then move on. It might seem shallow, but appearing strong is important. Conversations that are OK to ragequit if you're a regular person become important to not ragequit if you're running for office.
 >>2544910remember in 2015 their main thing was asking bernie and his supporters over and over if secretary clinton is the nominee instead of you will you vote for her blah blah blah. you see the reverse situation and they have no commitment to voting for their party's nominee if he's outside the ideological spectrum they find acceptable.  So the bourgeois parties literally have more discipline than a lot of the so called socialist and communist parties in this country, in addition a monopoly on legitimacy.
 >>2544961>so called socialist and communist parties in this countrynone of them had any power including dsa, they weren't calling for shit (i don't even think dsa endorsed clinton)
 >>2544907>More the present-day Republican Party if you ask me.Nah, there's a difference beteween MAGA and groypers. It's not a huge difference but it's there. It's even more unhinged and overtly nazi. The distinction is not so clear because there's a pretty smooth gradient from Trump to Fuentes, notably through JD Vance who is groyper adjacent. 
I think the shift into internet-brained nazism as the focus of the party is a consequence of just not really having legs on any of their previous angles. Who gives a shit about constitutional originalism or lolbertarian small business policy any more? If anything it's probably a sign of desperation since the internet right are even more repellant to the average person than Trump is, and trying to maintain this as the politics of a mainstream party will alienate way more people from them. They will have a harder time winning elections which means they will be more driven to cheat and do hard repression.
There's an opening on the left wing of US politics. Mamdani is an indicator of that. As the two parties continue sliding toward brainrotted fascism the struggle is probably going to be over just how far left the next generation of politics will be willing to go.
 >>2544961To be fair the democrats have the benefit of completely lacking scruples and using human shields. Their pitch to the left is “Damn, it’d be an awful shame if the republicans killed a bunch of minorities cause you didn’t vote for us.”
 honkoid status?
>>2544969real and true. that happened.
 >>2544969The man knows fine leather upholstery when he sees it.
 >>2544937>>2544953>>2544969in some cultures, the leather mourning pants must be worn for three weaks after the death
 >>2544980Those numbers are unironically kinda dangerous tbh
 >>2544982Eh? Like you’re worried they’ll actually “outbreed the left”? I wouldn’t sweat it.
 >>2544980We need to get Israel's sperm extraction scientists on the case to retrieve the Charlie Kirk corpse cum so he can brvvd his wife one last time.
 >>2544987>we need an interracial couple to represent diversity; can you make the wife black?>why not the husband?>woah we don't wanna be that diversethis convo 100% happened in the Cuomo campaign meeting
 >>2544987damn that shit was trash. they can't even be bothered to pay for a good ai generator
 >>2544987we are definitely living through the last 100 years of the human race
 >>2544987Sometimes I think about all the shit ton of natural resources getting sucked up just to make trash like this.
 >>2544998BBC is too threatening, if the settler state has to put black men they have to make him a cosmopolitan liberal feminist for it to be acceptable to settler consciousness
 >>2545007
>The guy too pussy to deal with ICE in his own town making empty threats again.
>>2544991Actually most people do just reproduce the ideology of their parents and the people who rebel out of spite are a minority. When society rapidly changes it's usually because of changes in the economic base rather than people consciously and deliberately rejecting their parents.
 >>2545016
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the PLA Naval Aviation University , and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on AmeriKKKan bases, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in foco theory and I'm the top sniper in the entire Cuban armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Russia and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the PLAN Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
Is this mf actually the real FEDlix? I thought he was just a trolling impersonator lol.
>>2545017It seems like most people idealize their upbringing and continue the cycle of dysfunction, but there are instances where children try to reason with parents after recognizing the destructive cycle. In this instance, spite has nothing to do with attempting reasoned dialogue. It's difficult if a child is afraid of guardians when they are still young but it is possible. Maybe being autistic makes me an exception, idk, but they raised us Catholic but didn't live it. When I asked why their observance was outward and performative, using kinder framing from Scripture itself, it gave them pause. Before they died they were different people, less indifferent and more compassionate. I mention this because of the movement to brand "empathy" a sin. Indifference and callousness are opposed to compassion / empathy. This is well illustrated by the parable of the Good Samaritan. But the right could care less. Now they're going full mask off with their hatred and bigotry. I think it's a good thing that they reveal who they really are. A catalyst for change, but perhaps for the better and not for the worst, (double entendre intended.)
 >>2545034<In this fictional documentary, U.S. prisons are at capacity, and President Nixon declares a state of emergency. All new prisoners, most of whom are connected to the antiwar movement, are now given the choice of jail time or spending three days in Punishment Park, where they will be hunted for sport by federal authorities. The prisoners invariably choose the latter option, but learn that, between the desert heat and the brutal police officers, their chances of survival are slim. goofy ahh premise
 >>2545034Got a new movie to watch.
 >>2545035I perhaps oversimplified when I said "rebel out of spite." I should have worded that more carefully, or maybe even more vaguely, but my broader point is that most people just believe something approximate to what their parents believe. They don't copy-paste 100%, they do change a little bit, but a minority of people end up with ideologies or beliefs totally opposed to their parents'.
 >>2545040You're good, I understood what you meant. I was only adding another perspective for the record.
 >>2545016
>shoots himself
felix is such a weird guy but i think imageboards need characters like this to keep things fun.
>>2544957Another $7000 in the bag.
 >>2544942they never do, and just pull the "im scared of doxxing" card. ive yet to find an attractive white neonazi, beginning to think they dont exist
 >>2545063The ideology is inherently loser shit so you're never going to find an attractive one. People who are actually succeeding in life don't need to have perpetual scapegoats and victim complexes.
 >>2545066well yeah, but damn you would think with how popular nazism is getting among normies these days there would be at least ONE. brutal stuff
 >>2544842None, frankly. If there's one thing that every socialist org in the US is pretty bad at, it's realizing the potential of the internet and how it can be used for mass organizing. At best you get YouTube and instagram slop, which of course gets suppressed by the algorithm, when they could be using platforms like substack, telegram, etc. like right wingers have been doing successfully for awhile now. Really feels like orgs in the US are far behind the social game than the fascists are.
The only org that *maybe* has a good grasp on the internet is FRSO, just from looking at their website, but they're a hardline ML org so it's to be expected their cadres actually know what they're doing.
 >>2545059It's crazy enough how people cheer for any of the needless suffering they've caused, his supporters don't realize the destroyer is targeting everyone in some form or another. He intends to crush the will of all people and no one is exempt.
 >>2545059Unlimited Genocide on Amerikkkans
 >>2544953Can't remember where, but i've heard in some culture it was ok for a widow to marry the brother of the deceased husband.
 >>2544795is that coffin picture real please tell me it is
 >>2545130that's called a Levirate marriage yes
 >>2545139I think at  Latin Americans outside of Venezuela are just tired of all the Venezuelans that ended up in their countries
 >>2545141this justification is crazy. why do bolivians support american imperialism more than americans do like wtf
 honkoid status?
>>2545139Bloomberg: how to manufacture consent.
 >>2545150you'd think bloomberg would be interested in portraying americans as largely supportive 
what do they get out of showing americans don't support the war compared to other countries
 >>2545143>>2545141>>2545139speaking of which, Jordan Goudreau has an arrest warrant, and will go to trial against the US. Yes, the same guy who was behind the 'bay of piglet' in Venezuela, 2020, along with some powerful bourgeoise figure of the US, and the juan guaido puppet.
they are trying to silence the guy.
>>2545152no one believes that Americans have trust in the US government.
but Americans will believe that Latin American countries know better.
 >>2545147jesus christ, you and your purity tests. give it a fuckin' break mannn, he's not perfect. you should be more charitable, after all. don't you know americans are dumb and reactionary?
 >>2545152>what do they get out of showing americans don't support the war compared to other countriesBecause the intent is to scold Americans for not supporting it enough ("see, the Latin Americans actually want it, you won't let them down will you?")
 >>2545143Is not that much that they support american imperialism but more like Maduro is seen like a retard that hurts the entire region here in latam
 >>2545160I don't care what south americans think of Maduro it's still supporting american imperialism
 >>2545159that's retarded. I'm seeing the exact opposite reactions to this on social media
 >>2545114indistinguishable from reddit
 >US envoy: Everything West has done in Mideast since Ottoman Empire’s fall ‘has been a mistake’
>US Ambassador to Turkey Tom Barrack also declares at the Manama security dialogue that “since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, everything the West has done [in the Middle East] has been a mistake.”
<“What works is benevolent monarchies,” he says.
>>2545139remember only americans are reactionary and must all be tortured for this
 >>2545180give billy chamberlain a free neckpopping surgery too for this bootleg sam hyde post
 >>2545160don't fixate over American polls on imperialism. they'll find ways to manufacture consent.
ask yourself the following:
-what areas were asked
-what governments had a socialist revolution (Peru? Ecuador, El Salvador, Brasil, Argentina, really?)
Look how conveniently they left out Cuba, i.e. they couldn't find a place where they could force a positive vote, they'll invent any excuse.
and yes, it's a manufacturing consent aimed to Americans, or else wouldn't be done by Bloomberg, and presented in English language.
 >>2545165I didnt imply it wasnt, just explaining it doesnt come out of love for the american empire which is what they will try to sell. I dont think you would see that kind of support if Chavez was still around.
 >>2545186I don't see how that's any better but OK
 >>2545184>manufacturing consentif that's actually the case it definitely backfired
 >>2544933shes half-Palestinian
 >>2545204>gop dead>dnc dead 2028 elections gonna be interesting lol
 >>2545147They have BreakingPoints telling burgers that Constellis wasn't Blackwater 
because the letters are different. And actually, he was SO EXPLOITED you guys! Graham Platner just like you! And these based "political commentators" guys are just nodding along like bobbleheads to a Nazoid US imperialist pig lying to their face.
https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1984355440298188899 (full interview) 
https://youtube.com/twioe2ONC9A?si=6Y-E6mq2ihPHzl6Z >>2545207damn, that's disappointing
 >>2545204LET THEM TEAR EACH OTHER APART!
 >>2545139link to the poll in spanish
https://www.atlasintel.org/poll/latam-wide-poll-la-crisis-de-venezuela-es-2025-11-01btw MEXICO not the us was the only country in which those opposing intervention were larger than those supporting it yet they were still colored blue.
 >>2545143they pooled the data for bolivia with rightist countries like peru and ecuador. anyway mas collapsed in bolivia and they are governed by rightists now
 >>2544795Listen, I don't really care for judging what women wear, but if I were trying to play the part of a grieving widow for political clout, I would have been in full mourning for a year and would have made everyone see that.  Especially if it was a murder, holy shit.  But, I guess imitating normal human behavior is hard when you have the soul of a lizard.
Usha, blink twice if you need help.
 >>2545225they also combined data for the us and canada, and uruguay and paraguay which is quite funny because uruguay is one of the most "progressive" countries in the region while paraguay is one of the most backwards and reactionary
 >>2545207not having children used to be considered suicide in american politics because MUH FAMILY VALUES but apparently it's OK as long as you did 4 tours of duty as a government babykiller and one extra stint as a babykiller for hire
 >>2545139chances bloomberg doctored these poll numbers by exclusively asking bougie fucks?
>>2545141regime changes results in MORE political refugees however
 Day one of post-SNAP America, how are we holding up?
>>2545223The fact that only 34% of Venezuelans support military intervention seems like a very important fact that's buried by the map representation they used, as well as the fact that many of the countries listed as pro-intervention actually have less than 50% support
 >>2545102>this tbh. learning how to harness the algorithm is how we stay ideologically competitive and relevant. You're completely ignoring how the alogrithim is already slanted to show Fascist shit. You never can use anything the bourgeoisie control to spread your message, they will never allow you to use their platforms to spread things that goes against their ideology.
 >>2545161>using a guillotine to hang someonelol
 >>2545240no the algorithm is slanted for maximum engagement
you seeing fascist shit in social media isn't cuz the elites in charge are secretly pushing a fascist agenda, it's actually because normies are little fascists that engage a lot with fascist content
from Porky's perspective communists harnessing the algorithm isn't an issue the same way selling Hammer and Sickle and Marxist shit on Amazon isn't an issue, they're profiting either way. No porky is not smart enough to realize they're selling us the ropes about to be used to hang them
 >>2545188Its better because it means is not just USA fanatism, that would be harder to change, instead is a more circumstancial type of alignment. I guess it depends on how hardcore the US decides to get.
 >>2545241>>2545223This is a great article from 1998 by a right winger who was against sanctions. It has anti commie stuff in it but he gets it as to why they fail. This is back when there was actual people who were against this stuff. Would like your guys take on it. 
https://www.hoover.org/research/why-economic-sanctions-dont-work >>2545240They sell us the rope with which we hang them. I've had plenty of lefty content show up with the algorithm. There might be a slant but profits blind them in so many ways.
 >>2545139>bloomberg>presented in english>cuba ignored>no breaking up poll respondents by class/income, just country>map color coded so that majority opposition still looks blue (support) on the map>probably only asked bougie fucks>america made to look like reluctant world police (Uncle Sam don't like to use violence but the peoples of latin america demand he use it)oh yeah, it's manufacturing consent time
 >>2545231we can only hope
 >>2545245sanctions 
do work. it's a ground strategy to inflict pain in the population, when the world is greatly interconnected and the US controls by the IMF/World Bank/WTO and other economic international institutions.
Take as example Iraq. Before dubya invaded it, Clinton made sure to weaken Iraq as much as they could through sanctions.
Yugoslavia, too.
If the USSR wouldn't have no fallen, sanctions maybe wouldn't be so dangerous. but that's another story.
 >>2545254Sanctions have diminishing returns
 >>2545254>sanctions do work.depends on the country
>>2545256sanctions famously failed against russia because russia has a very large land mass, a lot of bordering countries who can serve as sanctions-evading middlemen, and most importantly of all, a Chinese geopolitical analyst pointed out that Russia is the only country on Earth that has a large stockpile of every element on the periodic table, and therefore is effectively capable of domestically producing a lot of commodities that sanctions would prevent them from getting.
 >>2545238Food prices are dropping in accordance with the law of value; however, this hurts the merchant and brings each of their underlings' livelihood to further question. The fascist merchant-worker-security semiproles will have all more reason to break prole skulls and hand out felonies over gallon of milk. 
Like vidrel, these merchant workers have been known to instigate and get uppity to proles and bite without order from master, so be safe and carry a blade mace or gun to protect yourself.
 >>2545259Waow the Republicans are so heckin corrupt and le fascist!!!! They’re destroying the constitutional norms!!! AOC please save us!
 >>2545269Aw poor you, must hurt falling for it again and again
 >>2545228What the Maoist is saying is that the movement should accept anyone who genuinely joined our cause, no matter what their past is, and American Leftists judging Platner for being complicit in American imperialism really don't have that much higher ground to stand up from. (That same can be said with a lot of "Maoist" middle class ppl from the third world but that is for another day)
 Not that i support Platner, i think his deliberate avoidance of talking about his nazi past rings so much alarm bell to me. But the overall point (that some "pure"  leftists want to have the moral high ground over other leftists who come from politically incorrect or inconvenient background, and that this is hypocritical) rings true
>>2545271I’m not the one in hysterics pretending the Orange Man is meaningfully different from any other administration since Truman. Don’t you have a #HandsOffNATO rally to attend?
 >>2545269the day to play dress up was yesterday
 >>2545254The fact that the US had to invade Iraq in the first place is the sign that sanction never worked. The entire point of sanctions is to induce internal crisis in the enemy and bring them down without having to deploy military hard power.
 >>2545276>I’ll vote for Nazis but only as long as they’re womenNobody learned their lesson from AOCIA
 >>2545264>a Chinese geopoliticaluhh.. problematic much? geopolitics is bourgeois, chvd
 >>2545272>What the Maoist is saying is that the movement should accept anyone who genuinely joined our causeis running for a position of power in the american government as a democrat "joining our cause" now?
>American Leftists judging Platner for being complicit in American imperialism really don't have that much higher ground to stand up frompeople who protested against the iraq and afghanistan occupations are the same as people who willingly signed up for four tours of duty before serving as a mercenary less than 10 years ago?
Would you also say we should forgive a CIA agent for example AND support them in their bid for a position of power in the US government if they pretend their entire past was an oopsie whoopsie?
>Not that i support Platner, i think his deliberate avoidance of talking about his nazi past rings so much alarm bell to me. He hasn't avoided talking about it. he says he is propud of his service to the US empire, but he doesn't register that as a nazi past. as for his tattoo he just says he doesn't know what it means. His supporters are therefore left with two choices: they either support a lying nazi in his bid for a position of power in the US government, or they support a guy so dumb that he gets a nazi tattoo inked on his body without knowing what it means in his bid for a position of power in the US government.
> "pure"  leftists want to have the moral high ground over other leftists who come from politically incorrect or inconvenient backgroundit's called vetting. you become an easy dupe when you let anyone into your movement based on their unproven claims of a subjective change of heart, let alone support them in their opportunist bid for a position of power in the government.
Also he's not even a worker, he's a small business owner. So even on the question of class this sucks. 
People were also making lazy lazy lazy fucking comparisons to the bolsheviks letting Russian WW1 vets into their movement… those were overwhelmingly draftees in brutal trench warfare against peer adversaries, not volunteers for an imperialist occupation of much weaker countries.
 >>2545124The only thing this shit would accomplish is playing into ISIS's hand of potraying the nomad farmer conflict in Nigeria as a religious conflict and not an economic one that can be solved by good governance. I understand where the Christians are coming, there are many horror stories of beheading, lynchings and rape targeting Christians in Nigeria, but the farmers also do the same against the fulanis. Anti fulani racism is rampant in West Africa right now
 Can we just start shooting maga now? I think we need to just kill them(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2545285Bro you can actually get in trouble for posting this. Delete.
 >>2545281ok but
>Russia is the only country on Earth that has a large stockpile of every element on the periodic table, and therefore is effectively capable of domestically producing a lot of commodities that sanctions would prevent them from getting.don't you find that interesting? I find it interesting.
 >>2545278>had to invade Iraq in the first place is the sign that sanction never workedI don't see the invasion as a consequence, rather it was groundwork for the invasion.
 >>2545291right, because it's faster that way, but if push came to shove, they would still have that stockpile which could produce what they need, albeit in more labor-intensive ways. the point is that they have several strengths against sanctions: 
1. many border countries serving as middlemen in sanctions avoidance
2. large land mass and many natural resources
3. industrial stockpiles of all periodic elements
The vast majority of countries do not have such a triad of characteristics making them sanctions-resistant. Venezuela and Iraq definitely do not.
 >>2545283>is running for a position of power in the american government as a democrat "joining our cause" now?No, but also yes. If being a bourgeois politician had nothing to do with the left leftists would not had been very polarized about this. Clearly we associate what Platner is doing as "joining the left" to some degree, which is why we talked about it all the time here. 
>people who protested against the iraq and afghanistan occupations are the same as people who willingly signed up for four tours of duty before serving as a mercenary less than 10 years ago?Yes. We are not talking about the past, we are talking about the now.
>Would you also say we should forgive a CIA agent for example AND support them in their bid for a position of power in the US government if they pretend their entire past was an oopsie whoopsie?Yes, if they proved to be genuinely remorseful and suitable for the position. Why is this even a question? If everyone is equal under communism then there can be no question that one communist is more meritorious than the other simply because he had been in the movement longer. 
>People were also making lazy lazy lazy fucking comparisons to the bolsheviks letting Russian WW1 vets into their movement… those were overwhelmingly draftees in brutal trench warfare against peer adversaries, not volunteers for an imperialist occupation of much weaker countries.Kinda ironic that you talked about this because eventually the USSR under Stalin was dominated by vehement nationalists and outright antisemites in the party, many of whom came from the correct background and had distinguished themselves during WW2 in defense of Leningrad. What a good load that "vetting" did for the party, turns out ideology is a matter of material conditions and not le evil individuals
 >>2545295>Clearly we associate what Platner is doing as "joining the left" to some degree, which is why we talked about it all the time here. we talked about it because DSA types were rallying behind him and we took that as proof that social democrats tail the bourgeois democrats and have no backbone when it comes to anti imperialism.
 >>2545273I don't think Platner has a nazi past. There's no indication he was ever a nazi or white supremacist. He was an imperialist dog working for the US military at worst, but so are millions of other people in the US. The nazi tattoo thing just comes off as a distraction, because establishment Dems are afraid to attack his military record as it would backfire hard.
I do think Platner's presence is useful for promoting a leftist presence in the military, which is something we absolutely need for any kind of revolution. Critical support etc.
I agree it is hypocritical that the beneficiaries of US imperialism are demonizing the people that loot the treats for them, but obviously will never give back the treats or stop accepting them.
 >>2545295>Yes. We are not talking about the past, we are talking about the now.he was a mercenary less than 10 years ago but you claim a few years of being a small business owner in maine as part of a calculated vibe change in preparation for a political campaign is some kind of healing process. The present is a direct product of the past and not totally disconnected from the past; only the most reactionary cretins lie that this is the case and only the must gullible idiots believe those lies.
>Yes, if they proved to be genuinely remorseful you prove that through YEARS of work, not through popping up out of nowhere and demanding support in your bid for a position of power in the very same government that you did imperialism for.
> Why is this even a question? If everyone is equal under communism then there can be no question that one communist is more meritorious than the other simply because he had been in the movement longer. what fucking communism? The USA is still a capitalist empire. We will go through civil war and revolution before there is any lower stage socialism, let alone communism
>turns out ideology is a matter of material conditions and not le evil individualsok then, don't unconditionally support someone with the "material condition" of running for senate in an imperialist government on a bourgeois ticket after being a small business owner who did 4 stints as a volunteer imperialist and 1 stint as a soldier of fortune.
 >>2545259Has anyone designed an art deco-styled guillotine yet?
 >>2545301does people remember when the white house turned off the lights to scare off people around? good times.
 >>2545304Remember when they did low-flying passes over crowds with military helicopters and shuttered the cell phone networks and internet in DC and then the media essentially ignored all of it despite throwing a fit when foreign governments do the same. Launch journalists into the sun.
 >>2545301Pretty sure Stephen Miller has to live out on a military base now.
 >>2545307>despite throwing a fit when foreign governments do the samethat should not be memory-holed, and must be engraved in everyone's mind.
 >>2545310>has toGod I wish people were actually going to do anything about it enough to force them into hiding. It's a complete PR stunt trying to sell the idea that they're poor innocent victims and liberals are scary meanies that need to be annihilated
 >>2545267>>Neocons larping as maoists online: Shut up! They fight for your freedoms! You are just a parasite! At least they snackrificed themselves for your treats!Pretty 
interesting how these people always go after lower-class Americans but having nothing to say about the billionaires. What else could you expect from a "Left" wrecker tendency that was literally invented by the FBI?
 >>2545300>you prove that through YEARS of work, not through popping up out of nowhere and demanding support in your bid for a position of power in the very same government that you did imperialism for.how is that meaningfully different from the classic Democrat line used against DSA candidates about "not being in the trenches" long enough to run?
Why can't someone just run for office and let their ideas speak for themselves?
 >>2545299This. We could have a genuine leftist presence in the Military if the Left just stopped cannibalizing itself and learned from Platner's rhetorical strategy.
 >>2545318>let their ideas speak for themselveshe wants to rebuild the military and strengthen small business owners
 >>2545319>support imperialist candidates.in american politics a candidate that acknowledges the gaza genocide is like in the top 10 least imperialist politicians in the country. he's less of an imperialist than AOCIA.
 >>2545238didn't a judge order snap to be reinstated yesterday or the day before
 >>2545299>so are millions of other people in the US0.8% of the population joins the marines, let alone does 4 tours of duty in imperialist occupations before becoming a blackwater mercenary. 
>establishment demsit's like you guys forgot kirsten sinema, who ran as an anti-WTO candidate in the early 00s only to become the face of the establishment, or AOC who ran as a succdem (without even the military baggage of platner) only to become the face of the establishment. it's like you people are totally clueless that these people just lie to you and pretend to be "anti establishment" only to do an about face. dude is a small business owner and home owner, not even proletarian, and that's ignoring his 4 stints as a marine, 1 stint as a merc, and nazi tattoo which he supposedly was too stupid to know what it means but wants you to trust him with a position of power in the same government he did imperialism for.
 >>2545325>he's less of an imperialist than AOCIA.This is pathetic. No person who did all the shit platner did is better than AOC and I went thru his whole reddit post history his views about war are disgusting. You platner shills are cult like at this point in admiration for him and did not know he existed till 2 months ago
 >>2545328LET 👏 BOYS 👏 HAVE 👏 FUN
 Rule of law is entirely dead, why is there so much discussion about electorialism and candidates
>>2545330Each new generation of leftists must have this  beaten into them by bitter reality unfortunately.
 >>2545314I dunno, I think a lot of right wingers are pussies at heart, so him getting mildly critiqued by his neighbors or stink eye in grocery stores may genuinely make him scared.
Like remember Rudy G. Claimed he was assaulted in a grocery store after someone patted his back and said “what’s up asshole?”
 >>2545335Cause Americans no matter how leftist they get are programmed to admire soldiers
 >>2545335The truth. Elections are fucking spectacle, managed by PR firms, played out by glorified actors.
 >>2545283>people who protested against the iraq and afghanistan occupations are the same as people who willingly signed up for four tours of duty before serving as a mercenary less than 10 years ago?They're all human
 >>2545328people ITT defending platner will get fetterman'd so hard…
 >>2545341But not the people they bomb of course, they’re just some fun to have when you’re young.
 >>2545339except i grew up with an old black barely literate korean war infantry veteran with PTSD tremors and zero happiness in life and I knew that war fucks people up and makes them into hollow husks and I opposed imperialism even from the age of 12 after learning about korea and vietnam, and opposed iraq as it was happening as a child, and yet 20 years after the revelations of the torture dungeons of abu ghraib 
I'm supposed to believe grown ass adults 3x the age I was when I realized US imperialism is fucked up are just heckin smol beans who MVST support le troops always. i'm not even asking you to spit in their faces and call them baby killers, just don't support what they do, not just for the sake of the people they attack (though that should take the top priority), but for the sake of their families, who have to deal with their bullshit, their domestic violence, their PTSD, their alcoholism, their disabilities.
 I am pretty confident at this point that if a right sector guy from Ukraine who went to the donbass and admitted in writings that he raped 50 Russian women, killed 30 kids, has a sleeve of Nazis tattoos and videos of him heiling but then says he is a socialist now and Israel is doing genocide then says he will remove the tattoos that many progressives would vote for him and defend him relentlessly cause he was a soldier so he can help us and he is a changed person.
>>2545348
i wasn't defending him, i've been attacking his supporters this entire conversation you idiot.
>>2545351I didn't finish reading your post I just reacted to the first few sentences. I am sorry.
 >>2545344Platner's side lost.
 >>2545330>AOC who ran as a succdem (without even the military baggage of platner) only to become the face of the establishment. it's like you people are totally clueless that these people just lie to you and pretend to be "anti establishment" only to do an about face.I think it's honestly you guys that are clueless. Electoralism will not lead to the revolution. Stop treating it like every election is a test for the Perfect Marxist Candidate. The goal is just to get establishment politicians out. That's it.
Platner > Mills
AOC > Crowley
No none of these people are Leftists nor will they create a revolution or promote Leftist policy, because at the end of the day they're still self-interested politicians beholden to the interests of donors. But if it's literally just ticking a box on a ballot to get a politician we dislike out of office, then why aren't we utilizing it more to disrupt the interests of the political class? The Democrats are in the worst state they've ever been since the civil war, why aren't we using that to build dual power while simultaneously sabotaging their politicians they're trying to force through?
Janet Mills has been in politics since the fucking 1970's and just wants a Senate seat to retire in until she dies like all the other geriatrics in congress. Fuck these people. Screw their plans. Do whatever you can to disrupt it and make their lives uncomfortable. This isn't about building socialism; Platner will probably get run out of office just like Sinema if he turns out to be a secret Republican or Zionist or whatever, so I couldn't care less about his intentions. But he pisses off the Democratic party, and the uncertainty regarding his views makes them uncomfortable. Better than the alternative of a career politician that Chuck Schumer endorses.
 >>2545356just created 300 fraudulent ballots to vote for him
 >>2545356Getting ads that are like "What would you do if you saw a Jewish boy getting kicked on the streets of New York?" and "1 in 3 Jews are victims of antisemitic attacks" and I can only think Jesus Christ they're acting like NYC is vowing pogroms.
I guarantee if it hasn't happened already there's gonna be some dude who throws a brick threw his own shop window, spray paints "Juden" on it, and claims "THIS IS WHAT ZOHRAN ENABLED" if Z-man wins.
 please stop doing hasbara re: platner, we should be better than this
>>2545355>if it's literally just ticking a box on a ballot to get a politician we dislike out of office, then why aren't we utilizing it more Wonder why 🤔
 >>2545360it kinda makes you wanna hatecrime some jews doesn't it.
<Mods this is a JOKE do not send me to the gulags again. >>2545363Platner should be better than promising to tirelessly work to rebuild the military
 >>2545355We have at least one ongoing genocide that remains unresolved, 42 million more people are being threatened with starvation, the president is tapping around red button and building concentration camps, the younger generations are being ruined by the system as we speak, the supply chains are collapsing and Atc across the country are leaving, the economy is just utterly fucked, ICE goons and friends are readying to put down the majority of the country, and you are advocating for MORE incrementalist electoralism? Are you fucking insane?
 >>2545367What do you think "rebuild the military" actually entails? I don't think hes elaborated on it or ever implied we need more wars. It's always framed as being about cutting waste and increasing efficiency etc. The same way Republicans talk about "rebuilding" Medicare when they really just mean gutting it. Not that I'm suggesting he'll destroy the military, just that the rhetoric is meaningless.
 >>2544859Got 9/16 because I clicked on Trump in all cases without checking their irrelevant "beliefs". (In reality these are just cultural brands you buy into). More than half of these people chose goodly and bigly.
America is in great hands, maybe even the greatest hand, I don't know but some people are saying it.
 LECTURER “ADULT GROOMS” little gifl AT UNIVERSITY
this poor girl luzie was only 21 years old and on the cusp of adulthood when a lecturer breached academic codes and entered a relationship with her from them messaging each other thru Facebook when she says she was attracted to him - a clear power imbalance and super problematic. when are we going to pass adult grooming laws so that vulnerable young women (21 is practically a child) are protected from older men?
21 year olds CANNOT consent to adult men. There is too big of a power imbalance 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360872331/he-said-he-believed-me-student-calls-relationship-lecturer-adult-grooming>>2545355I've never understood why people put so much weight on voting like it's some Herculean end-all be-all effort that has to pay off with 1 trillion simultaneous orgasms to be worth it. Unless you're actively campaigning and expending all your energy, you're just some dude sitting on your ass being unplugged. God forbid you have to fill in some boxes every 2-4 years to make sure your city/county/state/country doesn't go to complete shit. The horror!
Maybe it's because I'm an Oregonian so I don't have to stand in a long line and freeze my ass off (praise mail-in ballots). For people who live in shithole states that suppress the vote I sympathize.
 >>2545285clearly this anon meant shoot maga as in photograph them.
 >>2545369Why are you treating it like an either-or?
 >>2544896It's just paranoid heterosexuality. It's like closeted gay homophobes. You see the same kind of paranoid heterosexuality in men with incels. Men can be worse when homophobia was involved but there are also more complexities here.
 >>2545369I'm probably the last person to advocate electoralism. My position on Platner is that he only serves to disrupt the interests of the bourgeois and their politicians, nothing more. I have a very low opinion of elected officials, and I doubt Platner will be much better himself, just like AOC.
Again, electoralism will NOT create the conditions for revolution. But getting people we don't like away from the red button of power is still meaningful in slowing down the death march of Capitalism as we work in the background to build the revolution.
>>2545375Yeah exactly. I live in California and already voted for Prop 50. Do I think it'll lead to secession? Unlikely. Do I think it'll fix anything? No. But it took me like 20 seconds to read and fill out my ballot and it'll lead to a bunch of Republican politicians being run out of office. Good enough for me. Maybe if we're lucky one of those seats will be filled by a DemSoc like AOC to infinitely piss off Pelosi and Newsom.
 >>2545379Platner is literally a small business owner
 >>2545354ok? they were still the aggressors and slaughtered civilians
 >>2545374>USApol>New Zealand clickbait trashAre you lost anon?
 >>2545370>. It's always framed as being about cutting waste and increasing efficiency etccutting waste and increasing efficiency in the imperialist machinery. more bang for your buck when slaughtering people for resources
 >>2545384Mamdani has the same exact policies towards small businesses. Why aren't you dunking on him over it?
 >>2545377Because it is, you literally insane individual. You are literally faced with the situation that the system you are trying to work within is probably not even going to exist in the next few months, and you chose to double down on the most worthless of endeavors instead of adapting to the situation.
You are getting lapped by fucking Obama on this. Embarrassing.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barack-obama-is-now-not-so-sure-america-can-survive-under-donald-trump/ >>2545386we do dunk on mamdani because we dunk on reformists
 Platner wants to give easier loans to "veterans", rebuild us military to be stronger, he will never turn his back on us soldiers, our countries is defined by how well we take care of our soldiers! 
Clearly this guy is so ashamed of imperialism and his time in the military!
>>2545386mamdani caved to zios who called him antisemite and they still call him antisemite
he calls self defense against zionism a war crime
 >>2545388Anon since you clearly don't understand what an either-or is I'll dumb it down for you - why do you think that voting means you're not able to take other actions? Does it really expend all your energy to fill in some boxes every 2 years?
Do you really think the people who have been the most active in opposing what Trump is doing don't vote? Do you really think that countries that have more militant labor movements that can actually get concessions from their governments have lower voting rates?
I'm asking these questions because you clearly haven't thought about it. You're just yelling.
 I don’t like milquetoast social democrat murderer-mercenaries who participated in Abu Ghraib and babble about closing the shipbuilding gap with China or whatever neocon bullshit they cook up at the Eagle McBurger Cheese-Product Freedom Foundation. Sorry not sorry or whatever the kids say.
>>2545379>My position on Platner is that he only serves to disrupt the interests of the bourgeois and their politiciansThe interests of the Bourgeoisie have developed far enough to the point where they can simply remove him instead.
> electoralism will NOT create the conditions for revolutionAnd is therefore a time waster not worth pursuing at all, especially now.
>But getting people we don't like away from the red button of powerHave you seen the news? They’re already at the red button of power.
>is still meaningful in slowing down the death marchDeath march in full spring. It’s not stopping because you voted.
 Also platner had the luck to make his first statements 2 years after this war was going. What was he saying 1 year ago? What would he say 2 years ago? Even now he says October 7th was a horrible terrorist attack and nothing about Israel on statement when it's safe to judge Israel now
this site has been infected with hasbara unfortunately
albeit it's not hard to do given it's an anonymous website, there's no posting history to track
>>2545395Isn't the whole reason progressives shill this guy because he supposedly is good about Palestine? Where is the part that's supposedly good?
 >>2545390>>2545391>Platner wants to give easier loans to "veterans",>VA Home Loan program is great, it should be expanded to more americansCan you even fucking read lmao. The only people it can get extended to is non veterans (that's you, dumbass)
 >>2545404Address the rest of what I said
 >>2545406Address your reading comprehension first, dumbass.
 >>2545408Nah. You picked the easiest thing to go after cause you know how bad the other shit is.
 >>2545409Why would I address anything when you can't even read what I'll address. Did you even get a GED lmao
 Why are there so many people ITT shilling for planter? 
> He was redeemed of his nazi past!!! 
He has a Nazi future if he gets elected.
>>2545413there is no "nazi past" and you're playing into a lie to own da socdemz
 >>2545413I'm not defending him, I'm addressing some dumbass's inability to read? Another example of it lol
 >>2545416Yeah the socdems put a nazi tattoo on his chest for 20 years.
 >>2545366I've got Jewish friends so I try to make the distinction between Jewish and Israeli most of the time, but I'll say it's been a cynicism catalyst seeing some outspoken, socially progressive Jewish people run interference for Israel. Kind of like the bible verse about "removing the plank in your own eye", like I've seen people who are big "silence is violence" types that'll insist on the importance of confronting every issue and grilling people over any insufficiently progressive view that, on the topic of Israel, try to sideline it with "its complicated".
To be honest it kind of convinced me that a lot of the most aggressive socially liberal rhetoric is by virtue of people having an "out" to psychologically distance themselves from what they're criticizing.
>>254485910/16 myself
 >>2545400If only it were as easy as rangebanning Israel and Langley but VPN's exist. Would be nice if some kind dissident in the IDF were to leak their VPN list.
 Reding is hrd.nazees bad
If Platner wins he'd the only American politician to have called Israel a terrorist state
Imagine being a platner shill who runs away from addressing his bad policies
>>2545413I see a lot more hasbara agents (paid and unpaid) spamming anti-platner/mamdani stuff
I really don't care that a dumbass marine got a bad tattoo tbh, I'm a lot more focused on the fact that this thread is full of people spreading hasbara campaigns uncritically
they have criticized [our greatest ally] israel therefore they are being attacked, it's really not fucking complicated at all yet some of you are pretending you are making Legitimate Concerns™
 >>2545423Imagine being a dumbass who flunked out of high school
 >>2545279Do we have credible video footage of their bedroom scenes as well?
 >>2545422You see platners positions better than Rashida tlaib?
 >September, 2023. Zohran Mamdani: "We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been laced by the IDF."
>“The NY State assembly is a bastion of Zionist thought.”
>>2545426I don't care what you think about my education, how I speak or if I am an idiot. You won't address Graham's policies all you can do is deflect.
 >>2545425No man you don't understand if we elect Platner the entire US government fill fall to fascism. This is the LAST STAND we CANNOT let him into office or he'll TOTALLY WRECK THE GOVERNMENT by uh…voting for universal healthcare and opposing foreign wars.
 >>2545428Rashida tlaib isn't a socialist so yes she's inferior
 >>2545434Graham platner is not a socialist
 >>2545433No one is saying this
 >>2545412>>2545408nah he's right and you're being an obvious dodgy faggot platcel dickrider
>>2545394stfu platcel
 >>2545436Okay all you want to do is troll and not address anything. You wanted to defend him then back away when asked about bad policies and avoid them so this is pointless.
 >>2545433Closing the shipbuilding gap with China but in a woke way
 >>2545396>Does it really expend all your energy to fill in some boxes every 2 years?It’s less the literal act and more the mentality of the act. If you seriously think that filling in those boxes is actually going to do anything at all, you are not ready to deal with the situations at hand. Either you go 100% and stop clinging to nonsense, or fall behind and fail.
>Do you really think the people who have been the most active in opposing what Trump is doing don't vote?Most active so far. And yes, I know a solid chunk of them don’t vote.
>Do you really think that countries that have more militant labor movements that can actually get concessions from their governments have lower voting rates?I don’t care to answer such a random question.
>I'm asking these questions because you clearly haven't thought about itThe feeling is mutual
 >>2545435I don't care what you consider him to be. He candidly called himself a communist in a reddit account he tried to hide. Rashida tlaib is a liberal
 >>2545400>albeit it's not hard to do given it's an anonymous website, there's no posting history to trackImageboards are more vulnerable to psyops than conventional forums for this very reason. How do you think /pol/ was able to take over 4chan?
>>2545413>Why are there so many people ITT shilling for planter?I swear there has to be dark money behind his campaign. It's one of the most blatant shill operations I've ever seen.
>>2545420>If only it were as easy as rangebanning Israel and Langley but VPN's existIIRC, somebody ran a IP grabber on Reddit shills and a lot of the shill IPs used AWS.
 >>2545440All I want you to do is increase your ability to read and understand words. I'm trying to help you.
 >>2545443>If you seriously think that filling in those boxes is actually going to do anything at allIt makes people we don't like unemployed.
What more do you want?
 >>2545451Thank you for your service sir, we sure got those ayrabs and their terrorist god for trying to interfere with our way of life. Dog bless
 >>2545452Get a grip moralist
 >>2545450>It makes people we don't like unemployedHoly naivety batman. And rearranging the deck chairs isn’t going to stop the sinking. You’re simply wasting time and attention that could’ve been used for prepping and getting into lifeboats.
 Reading is fascist and supports capitalism
>>254537942 MILLION PEOPLE have had their food potentially permanently lost today and you expect me to believe that you can elect anyone that keeps porky away from the levers of power, in a porkoid government, with porkoid rules, with porkoid employees, because you elect a slightly smaller porkoid who employs slightly different tactics that help keep you in porky's system
 >>2545459umm uhh um grr you have no uh reading comprehension ummm you're doing moralism uhhh he's a heckin REDDITOR dontcha know he called himself a COMMUNIST on REDDIT and then tried to HIDE it. platner is love. platner is life, you just hate winning you flipping MORALERINO
 >>2545457And south Americans are more supportive of inviting these animals into their backyards than Americans are. Actually insane
 >>2545461You're losing it. There's multiple people in thread. I'm the one that's *addressing* your poor education. Beginning to wonder if you can read a clock.
 >>2545455critical support for platner in making people incredibly angry
 >>2545456>You’re simply wasting time and attention that could’ve been used for prepping and getting into lifeboats.Alright let me pose you a hypothetical:
Every American receives a button, and if enough people press that button Elon Musk will have a heart attack and die.
Would you press it? Or would you complain that it won't do anything because he'll just be replaced by another billionaire?
Personally I would press it, because I just don't like Elon Musk.
 >>2545467>let's make up a hypothetical scenario that'll never happenBORING and also gay
 >>2545467The button in your hypothetical scenario is purely hypothetical.  It’s not called rule of capital for no reason.
 >>2545473WHAT IF YOU HAD A TIME MACHINE, WOULD YOU GO BACK IN TIME TO KILL BABY HITLER? I WOULD. CAUSE I HATE HITLER.
 >>2545469The point is you have the potential to hurt a person you don't like, why not take the opportunity?
I assure you if Graham Platner is elected Chuck Schumer will be seething. Is that not enough reason to press the button?
>>2545473Rest assured even if the button killed one billionaire he WILL be replaced by another one. The hypothetical isn't "changing the system" but punishing a single individual or group of individuals on a personal level.
 >>2545472Imagine thinking JD got laid in high school
 >>2545475I would deport the baby far out of germany, thereby killing the Hitler identity.
>>2545476>Rest assured even if the button killed one billionaireThe only thing the button is killing is the pressers alibi.
 what's new in the free world
>>2545476If the billionaires kept being killed at some point people will start to actively avoid becoming them: see monarchy
 >>2545476>The point is you have the potential to hurt a person you don't like, why not take the opportunity?The point is to waste my time by moralizing about impossible bullshit that'll never happen.
 We need a proletarian version of the CIA cancer gun
>>2545476I'm not sure voting them out of office will do them any meaningful harm. They will just get a KKKushy lobby job at the Eagle McBurger institute, Arlington, VA 22203, and the same old will remain the same old.
 >>2545485Tim Pool has to be the most low effort right-wing grifter
 >>2545488Do you think Hillary Clinton wasn't hurt by losing in 2016?
 >>2545491She can wipe her tears with bags of money her friend Donald Trump made her and her ruling class compatriots
 platners opposition is Janet Mills, a 77 year old career lawyer and politician who will be 84 by the time the Senate term ends. She is backed by the rest of the establishment Dems+AIPAC
I'd support any candidate in opposition to her, the fact that it's someone who may or may not be communist is straight up gravy. And with zohran winning in NYC I see it as part of a wider trend
The only election we should be caring about right now is the NYC mayoral election, and only because the ensuing shenanigans from the Trump administration will be funny as hell and could very well radicalize some people
btw Mills campaign team refused to release her health records yesterday which indicates medical issues. Have fun with the gerontocracy if she wins
>>2545495>I see it as part of a wider trendA wider trend of capital in crisis trying socialdemocracy, reform, more legal opposition inside established structures of the imperialist state to avert revolution? Yeah for sure.
 >>2545485Does he think he's getting anyone on his side when advocating cutting off Snap lmao
 >>2545498>gerontocracy Listen buddy, you can replace every old cocksucker in Congress and nothing will change for you and me. I sincerely believe that.
 >>2545499Lmao. The rate of profit is falling. Despite whatever you think socialism is inevitable. It's time to wake the fuck up
 >>2545485>How did this get 7000 likesBots.
 >>2545498Don't care, not voting for a fascist.  Do better. It is actually not unreasonable for us to demand better than the shit that is Platner, fuck off.
 >>2545504I think he is saying that capitalists recognize as much and are consequently sheep-dogging people back into this system, by jingling (among other things) social-democracy in front of peoples faces.
 >>2545507>Do betterLib detected
 >>2545509Isnt the assumption with these 'socialist' candidates that establishment Dems are gonna kneecap them at every turn? Nothings gonna change because old Dems don't want change. And I'm pretty sure socialists don't expect actual change through bourgeois democracy either, the benefits are socialist propaganda and shit
 >>2545507true leftism is when you swallow MAGA lies about imperfect progressive anti-imperialists.
 >>2545504TRPF didn't result in socialism in 1930s Germany now did it.
 >>2545513How many times was the monarchy restored in France? Retreats are inevitable, but so is the inevitable global triumph
 >>2545511>Socialist propagandaHow can there be socialist propaganda when you constantly condemn every other socialist and communism as a whole, while being in kahoots with limp-dick ZIONIST demokkkrats (Fetterman, AOC, Bernie)? You should have just gotten an actual socialist from a socialist platform like the PSL, no matter what you think about them, instead of these so-called "demokkkratic" socialists who just defend imperialism. Here's Platner on his Reddit account fawning over killing brown people.
https://search.pullpush.io/?author=p-hustle&subreddit=usmc&type=comment&q=kill&sort_type=created_utc&sort=desc&before=1578009600&after=1577836800Mamdani has also condemned KHÄMAS and has literal proud zionists on his plattform despite this being pointless. How is that in any way socialist or even anti imperialist? If you want to be a treatler, just say so, but don't hide behind socialism.
 >>2545516He hasn't even won the election yet
 >>2545504>Despite whatever you think socialism is inevitableIt's socialism or barbarism not socialism after barbarism.
 >>2545507>Do better.How much does Hasbara pay you? Can I get in on this grift?
 >>2545519Barbarian socialism
 >>2545520>HasbaraNot him but what the fuck are you talking about? Platner is a nazi who killed brown people in the middle east proudly and wants to go to war with Chynah.
 >>2545519barbarism in this context is fascism. So it's either gonna be a reactionary socialist society to fit the needs of white Americans only with extermination for everyone else on the basis of race, or a real class based proletarian socialized society. It doesn't mean barbarism as in tribal society lol
 >>2545522That independent vote is not good for invasion planners lol
 >>2545522They'll approve of killing Venezuelans as soon as one Amerikkkan terrorist gets what's coming to him in that country, then gets called a baby boy who loved dogs and did nothing wrong in the media.
 >>2545522Man it's always fascinating seeing how little Republicans align with normal American views vs how much power they actually hold.
 >>2545532if there’s a Nazi in a bed and 1 other person jumps into the bed with them, you got a bed with 2 Nazis.
 How was the last South Park episode?
>>2545535How do you reckon with fact that your party supports the reformed slave owner party? The democrats hated tariffs before because the slavers couldnt export their crop. Same today
 >>2545538The Casa Bonita strike arc was kinda mid
 >>2545539Reported that britanny nazoid. The option's on the top right below the banner. Would advise anyone do the same.
https://www.patreon.com/BrittanyVentihttps://x.com/BrittanyXVenti/status/1984393414599692776 >>2545543
They vote for blackwater guy too
>>2545543
Go ahead and do your own form of "activism" if this ruffles your jimmies so much.
mods. annihilate this person NOW >>2545547
>>2545542x.com is owned by a white south african neo-nazi
i know this is a strawman so dont take it personally i'm sure you have good intentions, but its funny anons on here are fine pressing the button to report a nazi on a literal fascist website but too proud to press the button to vote out a zionist.
 >>2545551we don't live in maine platcel, we just rightfully point out grahmdolf platler is zionist and will continue to be zionist. go ahead and VOOT 
>>2545542>REPORT THIS NAZI TO ELONlmfao, you're delusional
 >>2545551>>2545554You aren't supposed to report this on X you retards. You're supposed to report it on Patreon because they dislike this content on other plattforms too and don't want to associate with it. The x link is there as proof so you can link it.
 >>2545556Patreon is an arm of Capital tho.
If you wanna take it a step further you could report it to Paypal/Visa/Mastercard/etc that Patreon is hosting nazis and force their hand, but even still you'll just be begging the Capitalists to police their own lol. It's not like you can organize a boycott to pressure them.
 >>2545561I don't give a shit. I just want a nazoid to lose their income on this plattform.
 >>2545491No, honestly, I don't.
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>>2545563I remember a video of her crying crocodile tears because she lost lol
 >>2545559Unironically we got only one trick or treater this year. Granted there's that huge world series game, but still. Shit's fucked.
 >>2545567Honestly, the real question: So what even if they are? At this point the platner shills are saying that we need to uncritically defend platner because the nazi tat petit bourg will emotionally scar a dinosaur's withered heart.
 >>2545485rightoids also chimped out at mr. rogers for being against segregation. this is just how the brain of the burger rightoid works
 >>2545571>D-Don't do an easy report of nazis to the heckin coporinos who don't want to associate with nazi content for nowDamn retard
 >Nov 1 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that he has asked the Defense Department to prepare for possible military action in Nigeria if the Nigerian government "continues to allow the killing of Christians."
The pro peace ticket BTW
>>2545568I ended up eating most of the candy myself.
We got like 3 trick or treaters. pre-Covid we would get 30+. The kids are not alright. The Left's war on Halloween has got to be stopped.
 >>2545572>we need to uncritically defend platner because the nazi tat petit bourg will emotionally scar a dinosaur's withered heart.Yes. What's wrong with that?
 >>2545575>please be my personal army and go sign up for a glowtreon account and hit that report button so they can map your politics to your email when they build their purge lists later on because uh… they'll definitely do something about the nazis i guessno
 >>2545578GO OUT AND HELP GET FOOD FOR PEOPLE YOU FUCKING RETARD
 >>2545578i hope platner wins so i can watch in real time as your new goalpost becomes "so what if he votes 99% the same as janet mills would have if she were still in office, at least he votes 1% of the time to help small business owners"
 >>2545582Why can't I do both?
 >>2545582You're supposed to give them money, so they can buy food cheaper.
 >>2545582Distributing food is good for the soul but what's the point
 >>2545522All the people who support Venezuelan intervention in this poll were most likely Venezuela immigrants themselves.
 >>2545577>The Left's War on HalloweenUnironically had a kid tell me she doesn't celebrate Halloween in my store the other day 'cause Satan or whatever.
>>2545580>You will live to see the Roman standard of sexuality be restored<"Its only gay if you bottom, bro." >>2545594The Turks allow tops but not bottoms into their army maybe america will take notes
 >>2545594Yeah, conservatards have been seething about it for decades and trying to replace it with Hell Houses and Trunkaween.
 >>2545585Only people who are comprised do both
 >>2545577>>2545568It's the opposite here in Mexico. As AmeriKKKan influence here expands, Halloween has become bigger than ever. I saw hundreds of kids trick or treating with their parents outside yesterday, felt like it was a city-wide festival.
 >>2545593Unironically the most vocally pro-Israel/Anti-Iran person in my store is an Iranian Immigrant. Besides that she's a sweetheart, but it throws some of my Hispanic coworkers for a loop because the way they see it is "Well she's brown, it's suicide to support Trump."
>>2545595>"YOU LOOK LIKE THE KINDA GUY TO FUCK A FEMBOY IN THE ASS AND NOT EVEN GIVE HIM THE COURTESY OF A REACHAROUND.">>2545596It's funny 'cause back in Catholic school they mostly did a "Actually Halloween celebrates 
all the saints!" kinda deal. What can I say? We're great at appropriating Pagan holidays. 
Weirdly enough it almost feels like sometimes Prots imagine that it says in the bible you can't have spooky things or wear black. There's a weird overlap of goths and Catholics and I can only chalk it up to us being chill with the macabre.
>>2545598Didn't realize you're from Mexico. Halloween out there sounds like it'd be fun. How've things been under Sheinbaum? You with any of the Communist parties out there?
 >>2545594>doesn't celebrate Halloween in my store the other day 'cause SatanCurious, I'm surrounded by mormons and all the houses have demonic creatures, satanic imps and undead horsemen and shit in their yards. Mormons don't seem to give a shit. Meanwhile I distinctly remember hearing people talk about Harry Potter being an agent of satan back east many years ago.
 >>2545602Mormons are up to their own shenanigans but a lot of the culture war shit like anti Halloween or harry potter type crap is because of the Southern Baptists.
 >>2545605true don't forget jehovas witnesses
 >>2545582The proles know how to fetch their own food. The grocery stores are filled with but plunder from the third world. Nothing stands between the prole and the prole's milk but racist bourgeois grocery merchant labor aristocrats.
 >>2545588Then just say you don't have an account, you absolute retard, instead of this whole spin about how you're a true communist warrior for not reporting nazoids on the plattforms where they're making money lmao
 >>2545602>Curious, I'm surrounded by mormons and all the houses have demonic creatures, satanic imps and undead horsemen and shit in their yards. Mormons don't seem to give a shit. Meanwhile I distinctly remember hearing people talk about Harry Potter being an agent of satan back east many years ago.Worst my school did is try to turn people onto Narnia during the Harry Potter craze 'cause Narnia was more "Christian" but it wasn't full on "Harry Potter is the devil"
>>2545605Honestly I think the more localized a thing is and decentralized, the more conservative and arguably authoritarian it gets. Its easier than ever to sway things by what amounts to appealing to a kind of populism.
 >>2545611Shut up corpo cuckling
 >>2545601>Halloween out there sounds like it'd be fun.Yeah lots of parties and shit going on during this time of the year. I had to work yesterday but it was really fun seeing all the kids in costume strolling around the streets.
>How've things been under Sheinbaum?Majority of the population still support her and MORENA but things have definitely taken a turn for the worst recently: there's an ongoing farmers strike blocking major highways, lots of bullshit laws and taxes have been passed recently like and 8% extra tax on "violent videogames" (I swear I'm not joking), feminist groups still clash with the State and most young people are overall blackpilled regarding their future. Some OPPortunist rightoids have tried to take advantage of this growing discontent but if there's anything the average Mexican hates more than the current government it's the past governments so there's a reeeallly low chance that this translates into a victory for the PRIAN.
 >>2545606Yeah, fucking killjoys.
 >>2545611> instead of this whole spin about how you're a true communist warrior for not reporting nazoids on the plattforms where they're making money lmao(nta) actually you were the one saying true communism is when you slap that report button on the corporate platforms not realizing you might as well be reporting the teacher's pet to the teacher
 >>2545600>killed by cops for being constipated too long in the mcdonalds bathroomJust burgerpunk things
 >>2545619Damn, so like, some kind of honorary white person or something.
 >>2545619HEIL FUENTES
HEIL PLATNER
HEIL KANYE
AMERIKKKA FIRST
 >>2545619Leftist cultural victory
 >>2545616>Some OPPortunist rightoids have tried to take advantage of this growing discontent but if there's anything the average Mexican hates more than the current government it's the past governments so there's a reeeallly low chance that this translates into a victory for the PRIAN.So I'm not sure how relevant this is to you, but funny enough I heard some right wingers in Mexico conscripted a bunch of Republican advisors to help their campaign ads and stuff. Apparently it blew up in their face because the Republicans basically advised them to run like how Republicans out here do, aka wave a bunch of guns around and shit. Supposedly it just made them look like Cartel guys and sank their approval.
 >>2545619Fuentes is one of those people I'm pretty confident I could convert to the Left by just getting him in a room and forcing him to talk through his beliefs to their logical conclusion. He's more intelligent than the average rightoid and seemingly cares about being ideologically consistent to some degree.
That said, he still deserves the firing squad for encouraging hate crimes against immigrants.
 >>2545633only if u had enough $, which is all these grifters care bout
 look at this shit: 
>>2545633the USA is fascist
>>2545619He‘s just trying to go mainstream and therefore presents himself now as a Christian civic nationalist. He still slips up on his race realism and is no better than a Richard Spencer or a Lauren Southern, all of whom are trying to rebrand themselves.
 >>2545628Yeah the Mexican right is extremely pathetic and completely out of touch with the reality of the average Mexican citizen. 
There's this guy Eduardo Verástegui (has-been 90s telenovela actor still deep in the closet) under CPAC payroll and who tried to run for president in 2024. It was extremely obvious that he just did a copy-paste of the RepubliKKKan culture war playbook ranting about "muh god, muh family, muh freedom!" but that kinda shit has like ZERO appeal here in Mexico. Being Trump-lite may have worked for Milei in Argentina but here the mf was forced to drop out because he didn't even reach like 5% of the signatures needed to run as an independent presidential candidate.
If I was a Mexican rightoid I'd run under a Bukele-like campaign promising strong action against cartels and their violence while still keeping the social programs that have allowed MORENA to remain in power.
 >>2545600This is a big reason why, even though I understand why he did it, walking back his desires to defund the police is a big red flag (bazinga) against Zohran. Police in the USA are way too big of a sacred cow. Just like the State, the entire institution is rotten and must be destroyed and a new one built from the ground up.
 >>2545643y r the communists unregistered r they all part of PT now
 Reporting from the front lines here, at my supermarket job today there were no mobs of food stamp dependees rioting and there was no mass looting either.
Yet again the lamestream media fails to deliver on their promises, nothing ever happens.
The food pantry we created is now set up. Pissing in the wind among huge hellfire.
>>2545649>Yet again the lamestream media fails to deliver on their promises????
 >>2545643Sorry if this is turning into some kind of Q&A, but you got any advice for how the American Left can feasibly help the Mexican Left? Internationalism and all that, I figure being neighbors there’s bound to be something we could collaborate on.
 >>2545633Yeah I worded that retarded because I'm retarded, I was trying to say that the media was blowing things out of proportion as they have before.
 >>2545646There's not a meaningful communist presence in Mexico today. The PT is a joke that has only continued to exist thanks to alliances with the PRD and now MORENA. The Communist Party of Mexico is a den of rapist boomers and the EZLN although noble in their intentions are increasingly loosing power and influence in Chiapas thanks to both State and narco violence (both things are the same really).
Fights for workers rights are mostly lead by independent unions and small collectives and although I really admire them, their results have been mixed at best.
 >>2545652>>2545654Oops meant to reply to that
 >>2545655I know this is slightly off topic, but whatever happened to the Synarchists? Are they still a thing? Or is Mexican fascism captured by MAGA and Nazi larpers as well?
 >>2545658Fascism much like communism in Mexico died out and got absorbed by less radical parties. Some of the most most die hard believers now form the upper echelons of the PAN but as I said before, racial supremacism and culture war nonsense it's of zero interest to the average Mexican so I doubt their ideas become popular anytime soon.
 >>2545628>the Republicans basically advised them to run like how Republicans out here do, aka wave a bunch of guns around and shit. Supposedly it just made them look like Cartel guys and sank their approval.HA HA HA
>>2545601>There's a weird overlap of goths and Catholics and I can only chalk it up to us being chill with the macabre.I've said most goths in the world are either German or Mexican.
 >>2545659Are we also invading Canada?
 >>2545666Canucks get invaded first
 >>2545665many such cases. remember the great monkey escape in pennsylvania? and the south carolina  monkey lab escape? i’m noooticing
 >>2545666Why doesn't Trump just invade Canada to liberate them from British imperialism then declare the formation of the North American United Socialist States? Is he stupid?
 >>2545624I mean the Mediterranean fascist states that espoused ts were much more successful than there north Atlantic racialist equivalents, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up being the more common of two variants.
 >>2545659lol, was there a “North American Union” conspiracy in Mexico by any chance? Cause during the Obama years a bunch of right wingers had this bizarre belief that we were gonna make some “North American EU” with Mexico and Canada being the other founding states. They made a fake flag and claimed we’d switch over to a conspiracy called “The Amero”.
I remember hearing about it as a kid and thinking it sounded like a fun idea. Right wingers went psycho over it though, thought it would surrender our autonomy to Mexico or something.
 >>2545673Switch to a currency called the Amero*
 I don't trust people who display more emotion for a dead dog than a dead human being
>>2545673That flag is badass
 >>2545644pigs and troops (who are objectively pigs to the rest of the world) are way too big of sacred cows. for the brainless burger, america would be its most ideal if 100% of burgers were employed as pigs or troops (including children) in exchange for the most basic of social democratic concessions
 >"Federal prosecutors in Virginia argued that Peter A. Stinson, who received sharpshooting awards during his 33-year career as a Coast Guard officer, “seriously, specifically and repeatedly called for someone to assassinate the President” in online messages dating to 2020."
>>2545666thats the price of communism
 >>2545678>>for someoneThin skinned feddy bitches
 >>2545676Yeah I think it looks nice. It caused so much psychic agony in conservatives though that “do you support a North American Union” was a question in the Presidential Debates in 2008. Phyllis Schlafly Claimed it was gonna make a “socialist mega-state”
 >>2545633you are delusional about the nature of rightoids, there is no "talking" to them
 >>2545676This flag 
>>2545659 is way cooler than boring 
>>2545673 It's just blue with three stars
>>2545682>Phyllis SchlaflyTells you all you need to know
 it's the end of the world as we know it
>>2545675What about someone tht doesn't display emotion for either? (me)
 >>2545675Depends on the human.
 >>2545681Euros literally segregate Romani, like legally and openly, don't they? Not surprising.
 >>2545686thats more acceptable
 >>2545681How is it that British minds are so cooked now? Is it the Murdoch-owned media?
 >>2545559My life's the same except instead of the apps I don't speak to women at all, they want nothing to do with me, to be fair I am probably the worst possible option.
 >>2545633You could convert him by giving him a good dicking.
 >>2545692I mean the British Press has been historically pretty right wing IIRC. I think they still have a fairness doctrine too, which while broadly a good thing also means that clever rhetoricians on the right have a wider audience where they can break into the mainstream and humiliate some liberal.
 I filter all nametards by default because they're annoying and always have bad takes.
>>2545702Unfortunately the serial masturbator stopped posting with his name so we all have to read his homoerotic screeds about manly thugs
 >>2545702Does that apply to flagfags?
 >>2545706
Says who? Everybody called him a retard when he went on a tangent last time. And to my knowledge he didn’t post a picture of his semen here, so he has that going for him which is more than Fedlix can say.
>>2545709idk how you're supposed to filter flags, I would if I could because they're generally annoying too
 >>2545713
>die in a Sigurimi torture dungeon
Honestly I wouldn't mind that, at least it's not Santebal's Security Center 21
>>2545711To be an American Communist is to be a great fisherman, or a master of bait. 
One might even say…a master baiter.
 >>2545713
Do you think posting pictures of your cum would also lead to the torture dungeons of the Sigurimi, or did Hoxha fuck with cum tributes?
>>2545698Golden century incoming
 >>2545649give it a few days
 >>2545721nazi=pro iran? send this mf back to canada
 >>2545724mainly, I think he's calling nick fuentes nazi, but the argument stretches to Iran, too.
 >>2545721he's standing though haha
 >>2545721Whenever I see Ted Cruz I always think back to when Trump insulted his wife, only for Cruz to tongue his ass later. Spineless little bilge rat.
 >>2545731He’s apparently so personally despised by his wife, family, and colleagues that some old Dem senator joked: “I must like Ted Cruz more than anyone, and I hate Ted Cruz.”
I think he was some young republicans debate whiz before getting into office so I imagine he’s the kind of guy to interrupt some family dinner to correct someone on Reagan or whatever.
 >>2545731>muh QatarWhat's his opinion on Qatar getting a military base in Idaho?
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>>2545738>>2545721>burgers must be unilaterally allowed to destroy nuclear enrichment facilities in a mountainous country that relies on nuclear powerimperialist babble
 >>2545737I swear to God there was some controversy to the 2016 primary where it was rumored his wife had a mental health crisis and was picked up by the cops wandering aimlessly. I feel for the kids.
 >>2545734Aside from, like, Jeb! that was every other GOP nominee that year
 >>2545698>only 45% of GOP voters hold a favorable view of capitalismameribros, it's ogre
 >>2545665awesome, let the monkey's run free. what business is it of yours what diseases they have?
 >>2545462according to cooked pools by bloomberg
 >>2545730cruel brittania
she's cruel from crib to grave
britain will always always always
make more slaves
 >>2545830yeah but they don't want communism either they want Joe Rogan to become the American ᴉuᴉlossnW or something.
 >>2545922So they want socdems
 >>2545598>I saw hundreds of kids trick or treating with their parents outside yesterdayIn AmeriKKKa kids are scared to grab a big heaping handful. When I was a kid we didn't buy candy we made that haul last and were as greedy as we could be in the rich neighborhood.
 >>2545633Unless you have a comically huge sack of money 💰 to hand him, you cannot talk him out of being a funded propagandist.
 >>2545618Actually I never said anything about communism you retard. That's you projecting your own feelings there because you are an illiterate retard who loves plattforming any and all nazoids
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