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>>2544795Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
Is there any way out of this or are we stuck in the century of humiliation?
>>2545721>burgers must be unilaterally allowed to destroy nuclear enrichment facilities in a mountainous country that relies on nuclear powerbloodthirsty imperialist babble that i dare 1 of you to defend
>>2545743you don't get to decide, your government does, and as usual their "solution" is more escalation against people who didn't attack them, in your name, with your tax dollars, so that millions will grow up hating your guts and not caring what happens to you. your job is to break the cycle by opposing your own government.
When I get some free time I think I’m gonna visit some local markets and see how much big bags of rice would cost among other produces, do some math and maybe see how many gallon sized bags I could distribute to people. Possibly some jars of peanut butter and cans of beans too.
If anyone else is gonna try to distribute food given the SNAP defunding, please share some tips.
>>2545698A good data point, but how many of them actually know what socialism is rather than "socialism is when the government does stuff"? We still have a lot of work to do.
>>2545689It's not really distinctive. Flags should be immediately discernable and evocative so as to facilitate a rallying effect. It's unfortunate but as long as states exist it is both easy and necessary to manipulate human emotion this way. Shared symbols like stars, eagles, and trees are a good starting point.
>>2545743Yeah we’re pretty much stuck I’d say, but hey that ain’t an excuse to not push back—if not for this generation then some next.
>>2545750The best flags are simple and easily drawn by a child
>>2545743the only way out is to seize the data centers
>>2545743There is always a chance, we just have to figure out how to seize it.
>>2545755R&D fabs are more vital to the economy than data centers
>>2545755Funny enough Jerome Powell basically said AI has rendered job creation near-zero.
https://fortune.com/2025/10/30/jerome-powell-ai-bubble-jobs-unemployment-crisis-interest-ratesIt's also eliminating tons of entry-level positions, which means actual career growth is gonna be way more difficult for young people. Meanwhile Michael Burry is hinting at a crash in December but, let's be honest, he predicts a crash at least twice a year.
Shit's pretty much fucked bruh.
>>2545743"Nothing is to be done!" — Vladimir Liberal
"By any votes necessary." - Malcom D
"Tolerate Liberalism." - Mao Zedem
"Revolution IS reform." - Rosa Cucksenberg
"Workers of the world, give up!" - Karl Meh
gold man's sack
get food for people even if it's not legal man
>>2545774those fat blob people represent the USA quintessence to me. i hate them so much.
>>2545775Anti-Italian discrimination!
>>2545778>What little I accomplished was swept away forever by a literal retard and I will be nothing more than a brief footnote in history while said retard, who I famously mocked as never becoming president will forever be one of the most defining presidents in modern American history, would you like some advice?obamna
Every day more and more I'm convinced the end is imminent
>>2545786>the endIMO things are just getting started
>>2545778Obama is savvy enough to realize there's no stopping Mamdani (he won the primary convincingly and Cuomo is a dogshit candidate) so he's trying to get sweet with him so he can give him bad neoliberal advice and try to manipulate him.
Hopefully Mamdani is wise to it but most non-reactionary millennials have a soft spot for Obama even if on paper they are critical of a lot of his policies.
>>2545786"it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" 💀💀💀
>>2545786"The end" can last a long time. It's like a Kojima game.
>>2545792>Sombrero Guy>Temu Obama>Dollar Store Obama>Chuck E. Cheese Obamawhat?
>>2545792I actually hate gen X so much.
>>2545787The beginning of the end, but the end nonetheless. Human history will be divided into before and after Armageddon. Whether it's a civil war that spirals out of control or some kind of nuclear conflict it feels like the tipping point for it to all come crashing down is imminent and we're all just holding our breath, waiting for the other shoe to drop
>>2545789They aren't mutually exclusive tbh
Read Juche works.
Read Ho Chi Minh works.
I have to wonder if this growing wave of anti-Zionism on the right has to do with Qatar's growing influence in US politics.
It's good that it's happening regardless since fuck Israel but I really doubt rightoid pundits would suddenly grow a conscience. Cruz is probably right about it being Qatar even if he's just butthurt.
>>2545777What an incredible interaction
>>2545808This girl btw has gone viral going full on 1488 nazi tier stuff while also being an onlyfans girl. She's definitely getting groyper types and right wing incels to pay her while she just has to larp as le special nazi girl
>>2545808Of course she calls herself an "empath".
>>2545808shes trying too hard but it'll work because rightoids are really fucking stupid.
she'll probably pull a shoeonhead and reveal her real views once her mortgage is paid off by these retards.
>>2545808Raycists have such a weird sexual hangup over blacks. Literally involve blacks even when getting off. What is that about?
>>2545814Can't really fault anyone separating retards from their money
>>2545819why do I have to be constantly reminded that this waste of flesh exists
>>2545784Someone on here called him the “Hebrew Ham Sandwich” and I really think that should be meme’d.
>>2545819do you think she also fucked his wife's boyfriend
>>2545819Probably there to argue with her about who sucks dick better.
>>2545819You’re in a room with Hitler and Destiny but you only have one bullet, who do you shoot?
Yourself. >>2545774first kind kind of looks like christopher
>>2545829Man it’s a shame what happened to the devs. Disco Elysium was pretty fun.
No clue if they’ll go through with the TV show; if they do I doubt it’d contain the pro-communist messaging of the game. You guys see War of The Worlds? I think Bezos gets real antsy when it comes to business; specifically his.
>>2545808/isg/ is down the hall and to the right
>>2545837>rightoid does dumb shit>gets backlash>whines and pretends to be a victimEvery fucking time.
Next up is gofundme begging.
>>2545838
Why are you avoiding answering for your reactionary position? >>2545803 You want to protect American imperialism from a century of humiliation.
>>2545837ok ok didn't realize she was houngry
>>2545837I guess she ran out of money from her last drama and needed a new one.
Please stop posting this in /usapol/ and leave it in /isg/.
>>2545848Honestly I suspect starting wars with countries that Trump’s convinced are “weak” or that we could “beat easily” is just an ego trip thing. Like Caligula declaring war on Neptune except there’s an actual human cost this time.
>>2545848I think their just trying to do a global race war now at this point. Which is truly retarded since Whites historically loose those pretty often.
>>2545837I forgot that Brittany Venti is actually biracial.
>>2545853
listen man when a bitch is houngry she's gotta eat.
>>2545857
she houngry
>>2545861
yes
>>25458581. Maybe? The ruling class seems kind of headless.
2. If this applies to the democrats then I’d say yeah, they’ve routinely humiliated and exposed themselves.
3. Ehhhh don’t think so.
>>2545743you will take chinese fent and you will be happy
>>2545863Lenins third point was most crucial. How do you expect to build a mass movement if nobody wants one lol
>>2545866That’s what I spend my time arguing on here for. I think there’s a desire there, I think people want change, but in regards to the present state of America and Americans.
1. We still suffer from a huge amount of individualism. It’s hard getting people to identify and discipline themselves to a movement.
2. I think a big portion of what should be the revolutionary vanguard is detached from the lives of everyday Americans, still huffing the fumes of the new left, or even openly contemptuous of them.
>>2545858I would say all 3 are currently present in the USA, but somehow I still don't think it's time for revolution because we don't have a Vanguard to lead the revolution.
Americans cheered when Luigi killed that porky. They cheered over Charlie Kirk's shooting, even to the point mainstream media was arguing about it. They are crying out for revolution but no one is answering the call except lone anarchists.
>>2545870Whoops, my bad, I might’ve misunderstood the third point. My focus is more on the vanguard, I think a lot of people are poised for something (even if individualism weakens that as a whole)
>>2545875
>Study history and you will learn how to create a mass movement in a settler colonial post-apartheid state.
ok so can you condense those instructions to something that can be disseminated to the masses?
>>2545888No because he is a retard
or a federal agent looking to get people to publicly express a desire to use violence with nothing to offer but meaningless impotent slogans.
>>2545870I don't think we should be waiting and hoping for some vanguard to magically appear that, even if it did somehow have enough strength to take control of the state easily has the possibility to betray the movement as has been seen numerous times already in history. Instead I think we should be taking inspiration from Gramsci and focusing on creating a broadly derived, mass socialist party that consolidates the most combative and critical elements in society. That is, we need a movement that can build a network between current popular structures and inject them with revolutionary potential via a "war of position", while we also raise our profile through a clearly defined political wing to prepare for a "war of maneuver" if necessary.
>influencer slop
Unlimited jihad on influencer stans and their TV addiction parents
>>2545894Problem is where do you build a mass party out of? We don't have unions in the US. We don't have any labor movements. Our politics is completely insulated from the interests of labor. And we don't have time to build those things. Where are we gonna bring people together then?
>>2545895inb4 "socialism" with American characteristics
>>2545874I love Karlbubu!💖
>>2545906it's the one trick they have let to save American hegemony and capitalism
>>2545911 drummmmpfffffffffffffffffffff
>>2545897The arm of labor may be crippled, but the nature of capitalism is such that it will always exist, even in a weakened and puppeted form. The form may have changed, but the essence remains the same - people still have to sell their labor power to live - so our task is less to rebuild the same 20th century localized union system, but to instead recognize the new sites of production and reproductiouyghig work instead of factories) as class battlefields. We should support workers’ self-organization wherever it arises, even if it's as milquetoast as union drives at Starbucks or Amazon, tenant unions, mutual aid networks, abortion funds, and so on. We can link together each node into a broader web of counter-hegemony.
If we can connect cultural work, labor struggles, and direct action into a unified bloc while simultaneously building a federated socialist front - DSA and other parties, independent unions, local councils, and any grassroots movements with similar goals under shared principles rather than a strict "democratic centralism" - we can build a dual-power movement that serves as an alternative hegemony that can challenge the current one. People need to come to rely on socialist institutions for survival, meaning, and community. We need to out-last and out-organize capitalist hegemony, otherwise we risk yet another a vanguardist abomination or a reformist deadend.
>>2545792I enjoyed how it gets less effort the further to the end you get. Nobody spent more than 40 minutes on this.
>>2545933
god girls who cut are so hot
Has the left created their own caricature of poor / inner city people (almost a reactionary response to “welfare queens”)?
In a lot of threads on reddit there is a picture painted of poor inner city people as like these incredibly hard working people, who live in absolute squalor (no electricity, appliances, can openers). It’s described as like the only food they can obtain is McDonald’s or candy, without a cross country pilgrimage or selling their kidneys.
This feels a little bit to me like a reverse welfare queen caricature. Like sure, can you find an example of this person/family, sure. But I can also find a welfare queen.
But your average inner city poor person has electricity, a fridge, a stove. hell they have iPhones, TVs, and a bunch of other shit too. We should be able to talk about the systemic issues facing poor people without making it sound like they’re living in like impoverished African squalor with zero agency.
examples:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/s/cn20NOOnUn
>You are making the assumption that many people on snap have kitchens. Or can openers. Or hot plates to heat food. Or even microwaves. Or that they don't live in cities that have lead in their water that require people to buy water to be lead free.
>I am sorry, sir or madam, but your privilege is showing and you need to stfu.https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/s/Tv70sKBPnh
>Shopping for food, transporting the food, prepping, cooking, and cleaning take up a considerable amount of time, effort, and energy not available to everyone.https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/s/uQ16efftfI
>I could make the same comparison using store bought ingredients. Fresh fruits, meats, and veggies are far more expensive than processed foods.
>You're also assuming that everyone has a working kitchen and time to cook in it, which is sadly not the case for a lot of people.>>2545945For example remember when Kathy Hochul, the D governor of New York said;
“Right now, we have young Black kids growing up in the Bronx who don’t even know what the word computer is. They don’t know, they don’t know these things,”
>>2545855She is going to off herself because she is used as a groypers sex toy while having self-hate that she has a black mom. Most mulattos I know are comfortable and either say they are black or mixed while disturbed tragic mulattos like venti make it their entire identity and have a woe is me complex.
>>2545939how are you not in a death camp
>>2545965
>you ever been talking to a chica and she goes "you're really houdini? dead ass?" and you just let her know what you doing.
this is how a lotta political activists die or get setup by the feds but its still worth it every time tbdesu
>>2545945>We should be able to talk about the systemic issues facing poor people without making it sound like they’re living in like impoverished African squalor with zero agency."poverty" is a bourgeois concept to pit ppl against each other. the extreme/absolute poverty line is completely unlivable. people's struggles are relative and should all be ended
>>2545965
autism
>>2545965
You need to be locked up you weirdo. Future sex cult leader.
>>2545978Nuke em all and let god sort it out
>>2545984>Shabbos KestenbaumShlomo Vile’s cousin I guess
Why does no one on the left do anything of any use?
It's either vote for some Democratic politician or theorize how the heightening contradictions will spontaneously bring about the revolution any day now.
>>2545993you will build nodes within your network, you will expand your network via various key power players
you will learn to be social, interesting and filled with charisma
you will find yourself invited, asked and begged to come to functions
these functions will be points of contact to expand your nodes
your nodes will grow based on your ability to be the coolest motherfucker in the room
more nodes means more power means a higher chance of using your [communism/anarchism] to your benefit should the time come to use your power
the goal is to gain power while holding your principles
clout =/=/= power, close but no cigar, need cash to make grass get mowed
but clout is pretty god damn close to money to power to the influence
men dont make history, but many men knowing one man just might
To all of my fellow Californian Comrades, don’t forget to Vote YES on Prop 50 (I already sent my YES ballot in the mail three weeks ago) in order to defeat 4 extra Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist MAGAtard Republican Congressman in the 2026 Midterms, by turning their Trump seats into Harris seats, which could give Democrats a chance to flip the House from a Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist MAGAtard Republican majority, and all of my Comrades in Virginia, New Jersey, and NYC need to vote for Spanberger, Sherrill, and Mamdani (I know that Spanberger and Sherrill are lame Centrists whose platforms are noticeably inferior to the Social Democrat Mamdani, but all three of them must be Critically Supported and Voted for against their Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist MAGAtard Republican opponents), respectively, in order to prevent Republicans from winning the Virginia/New Jersey Governor races and the NYC Mayor race, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2545978Worker First
The General Secretary
No Investigation? No Right to Speak
>>2545997>>2545999She is better then the Uncle Tom Lady she is running against, 😂🤣🤢🤮!
>>2546000>Spanberger taught English literature as a substitute teacher at the Islamic Saudi Academy in Northern Virginia … In 2006, Spanberger joined the Central Intelligence Agency as an operations officer.This is low even for you standards King Lear
>>2546001I get that she is a shitty candidate, but she is still the Lesser evil to the Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist MAGAtard Republican Uncle Tom Lady, and as I have stated many times before a proper Dialectical Materialist analysis still reveals that a Controlled Opposition is better then No Opposition, and as we see on the International Stage that China is a “Controlled Opposition” to U$ Imperialism in the same way that the U$ Democrats are “Controlled Opposition” to the Republicans, thus making China the “Global Democrats”, with the massive caveat that a Maoist faction taking over the CCP and purging the Dengists could place China back in the Socialist Mode of Production on the Shining Path to Communism without another Maoist PPW there, though despite this fact both China (Iran is another example of a Lesser Evil Controlled Opposition) and the U$ Democrats should be “Critically Supported”, not because we genuinely support these Bourgeois entities, but because they are both a “Lesser Evil” faction of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System who De Facto prevent the “Greater Evil” of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System from completely crushing the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World before the World Maoist PPW can be successful when the Global Nuclear War breaks out, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2546003are you trying to outdo platcels
>>2546003Lear I understand your intent of lesser evil but you can pick someone much better than Abigail to talk about. She sucks super bad. Would be better to talk about an electoral race that at least the person aligns with you more than a complete centrist liberal like her
>>2545749I just saw that the superPAC Fox propagated an A1 video of snap recipients portrayed in a bad light to convince white cultists that this is the face of snap. So even though the speaker is responsible for the shutdown at the behest of POTUS the narrative they're pushing is that it's the left's fault while also demonizing snap recipients. If you want to help take up the slack from absentee fake Christians, churches have food pantries which are dwindling since usaid was cut… no more meals on wheels for he elderly, no more soup kitchens. So getting help to the people who need it is tricky. I'm a shut in like my elderly neighbors. Snap is only around 50bux/ mo. and the disabled receive from SSD a fraction of what retiree social security beneficiary receives. Then there are disabled vets living under bridges since even fireworks trigger PTSD night terrors that someone is trying to kill them. I share food when I can, but I'm the one who only got 50bux/ mo from snap. Despite the propaganda, there are only plans to ride it out here. Nobody in our poorville has the inclination nor capacity for violence but people want to help whether they can afford to or not. I applaud your effort and intention but it's more difficult to help than it used to be is all I'm saying… but anything helps. I'm proud of youse.
>>2546003I will also add that Hamas is a Controlled opposition to the Zionist State that was created by Mossad, with the Zionists ordering Hamas to launch the October 7th False Flag attack (just like the FSB/GRU/CIA False Flag 1999 Moscow Apartment Bombing which acted as the “casus belli” for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya and the CIA/Mossad False Flag 9/11 attacks that was both the “casus belli” for the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, along with the final conclusion of “Project Hammer”), while purposely withdrawing troops from the border and arranging the spectacle at the Music festival, in order to provide a “casus belli” for the Zionist Genocide of Gaza, so if you can Critically Support Controlled Opposition like China, Iran, Russia (the Fascist U$/Zionist puppet states of Ukraine and Russia, are both controlled by the same cabal of duel citizen Zionist Oligarchs who raped the vestiges of the USSR which was destroyed by the Khrushchevite Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Revisionist Clique, which culminated in the Gorbachev Capitalist Perestroika/Glasnost “reforms” and the phony 1991 “Project Hammer” Coup attempt which officially dissolved the USSR and put the drunkard degenerate Yelstin in power, who chose as his successor the KGB/CIA/Mossad double agent traitor Putin, who staged the FSB/GRU/CIA False Flag 1999 Moscow Apartment Bombing which acted as the “casus belli” for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya), and Hamas, you can Critically Support the Controlled Opposition Democrats and vote for Spanberger as the Lesser Evil to the Christian Zionist Nationalist Fascist MAGAtard Republican Uncle Tom Lady, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2546003If your strategy of retreat ends in supporting literal CIA agents it might not be worth anything.
>>2546003I generally agree with using electoralism to slow the power accumulation of the fascists but Spanberger is a literal CIA agent. I'd still take a Republican over a glowie. And I support Platner so my standards aren't that high. CIA/FBI are like straight up worse than any branch of the military.
>>2546012You are my favorite retard I'll give you that. Never change
>>2545995Yes organizing is important but it needs to be used for something.
>>2546011I don't believe all Americans are imperialists. I just feel like the American left could do more and be more effective.
>>2546020The left could be more effective if they stopped playing reactionary and engaging the right on their terms. The contrived culture war and loyalty to a savior is how the right created a cult that isn't so much based in ideology as it is loyalty to an abusive father figure. The left needs to unite around a shared goal of restoring some semblance of sanity by proffering reality which breaks the spell.
>>2546027I think we all agree on this.
>>2545965
>you ever been talking to a chica and she goes "you're really houdini? dead ass?" and you just let her know what you doing.
Honeypot
>>2546012holy trvke, thank you lear, even if i am not a maoist nor do i ever plan to be, your truke here is undeniable potent
>>2546012>Hamas is a Controlled opposition to the Zionist StateTrue, Netanyahu propped it up for years over the secular PLO by diverting Qatari funds in order to give Israel an excuse to oppress the Palestinians more
>that was created by Mossad, with the Zionists ordering Hamas to launch the October 7th False Flag attacksource?
Why is your entire post half truth and half conspiracy theory
>>2546012Finally, the truke. But why the Zionists, and not Judeo-masons?
>>2546039something something ZOG isn't real you don't have to swear fealty to Israel shut up chud they dont control the government it's just a coincidence etc.
honestly it's really funny watching the modern day nazi party having a civil war over their loyalty to a zionist state. hitler would be proud. these people will be mocked mercilessly in the chinese history books destroying the most powerful nation the world has ever seen over their stupid doomsday cult.
>>2546043The Frankenstein monster they created by conflating anti semi tism with anti zio nism while allying with neo nazis was always going to destroy them, the genocide of Palestine just brought it to the fore.
>>2546048I don't understand blocking roadways since it's a counterproductive tactic which brought about this escalation, which is what regime wants. Of course this wouldn't be necessary if the jackboots were constrained by the Constitution, but the courts have betrayed that as well. So drawing the foul is self defeating unless we have Constitutional protections again, and these clips serve as agitprop to gas up the right. Tptb always amp up the hate that unites them. For the authorities to face any consequences they must be defeated in the arena of ideas. No foreign power can liberate us from nazism for them to face a war crimes tribunal, we have to do it ourselves. It can only work by using different tactics than the current state. That being said, what makes a person want to be a cop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOX8OsZJXI >>2546053Aside from that, do American protesters understand where they are doing this shit? The US virtually has no public transport, when you are blocking roads you are blocking people's only means of going to wageplantations. Ofc the right is very hypocritical about this, they praised Magatards and "farmers" blocking roads all the time, but you need to understand this so you can know why a sizeable amount of working class people genuinely hates road blockage
>>2546060When they blocked roads a few years ago my concern was for drivers with health problems / emergencies and I can't comprehend standing for civil rights while violating another's civil rights.
>>2546045>Will my country be this classcucked?Yes. Amerikkka is the least revolutionary country in the world next to Germany.
>>2546064This most go so hard when you're fucking retarded.
>>2546064The centralized control part is ironic. This ngga Trump will personally come down to Truth Social and destroy the career of every mid ranking GOP partocrat who doesn't suck his cock. This period in US history is the most centralized period in American history, everything you do and every single national policy depends on the dictat of the White House
https://www.iprofesional.com/management/440430-reforma-laboral-cual-seria-impacto-de-salarios-dinamicos-en-trabajadoresWhen money comes marching home again
Hurrah, hurrah!
We'll give it a hearty welcome then!
Hurrah, hurrah!
The men shall be my property
If they don't work I'll shoot through the knee
And we'll all feel great when money comes marching home!
>>2546064Is this from 2016? Cos magaoids do all of the unapologetically now, lol
>>2545743Its over, my lazy ass is looking at language schools and student visas…
Euro here.
Yesterday, my American fried went to sell her blood. She told me that she came early to the blood bank because she didn't want to stand in a line for hours.
This got me wondering, how common are those blood bank breadlines in the states?
>>2546085Healthy poor people around here sell plasma but idk about blood. There likely will be lines since the shutdown, layoffs, loss of insurance and home foreclosures are causing a 'food crisis' similar to the great depression.
>>2546085Very common. It's a big industry. The place near me will pay you 400$ a month if you donate twice a week
What's interesting though is plasma donated from Americans is a huge European import and fuels your bio industry
>The US collects nearly 67 percent of the world’s plasma supply, which Is it's 10th largest export surpassing that of trucks >>2546045>the masses>>2546067Your insistence on this narrative is suspicious
america is more revolutionary than every monarchic country combined
>>2546104thats not saying much
>>2545892They’re only hope is going back to being trots.
>>2545892Buckley didn't cancel bigots but welcomed the Birchers who he hoped would have minimal impact. They took over just like the groyper took over now.
>>2546102What insistence?
>Yarvin traces his own red-pill moment to the Presidential election of 2004. As many of his peers were being driven to the left by lies about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Yarvin was pulled in the opposite direction by fabrications of a different sort: the Swift Boat conspiracy theory pushed by veterans allied with the George W. Bush campaign, who claimed that the Democratic candidate, John Kerry, had lied about his service in Vietnam. It seemed obvious to Yarvin, who believed the accusations, that once the truth emerged Kerry would be forced to drop out of the race. When that didn’t happen, he began to question what else he’d naïvely taken on trust. Facts no longer felt stable. How could he be confident in what he’d been told about Joseph McCarthy, the Civil War, or global warming? What about democracy itself?
oh my godddd THAT was the moment?
>>2546112You know what I am talking about demoralizer. I’m getting real tired of you and your ilk shitting up my would be productive discussions.
>>2546116Given his state of arrested development I suspect finding out the tooth fairy wasn't real was the moment that broke his mind.
>>2546039>real conservatives don't spread hateDo their minds go blank every time they're on their knees waiting for zionist loads to soil their face?
>>2546039>We cancel people all the damn time!>we poured a billion dollars into Republican institutions for 50+ years you have to do something!!!!!lmao israel lost in gaza and they're losing in america. The situation is excellent
>>2546139No, I don't. Is your ego hurt because I called you an Amerikkkan
Day 2, no SNAPple
How are we holding up?
>>2546159>No, I don'tYou do demoralizer, but the fact you decided to lie anyways is not a good look on you. I’m certain you’re some sort of troll or glowie troll now. You’re not here for honest and productive conversation. You are instead here to be a purposeful blockage, unknowingly or knowingly, for your masters.
>>2546045we could reasonably get to the point where there's just televised summary executions in the street for criticizing the government and a solid chunk of people won't go further than whining how it's against norms.
>>2546103May the USA, Europe, Canada, and Australia become irrelevant backwaters eclipsed by Africa, Latin America, and Asia
>>2546164they'll stop doing even that much
>>2546164Pretty sure most Americans were unsupportive of Trump's handling of the LA protests and doughboys were simply beating up protesters. Where does this idea that americans love baseless cruelty come from lol
>>2546167>Where does this idea that americans love baseless cruelty come from lolMost don't but I'd say there's a solid 25% who do.
>>2546162A lot of stretching from both organizations and individuals so far.
>>254616925% seems a bit ridiculous 15-20% is a safer bet i'd say
>>2546165Do you have anything other than moralism to give backing to your statement?
>>2546177>I wish the burger reich would collapse<UMMM DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR YOUR WISHare you illiterate?
>>2546180Are you malicious? Absolutely. Are you a fed? Definitely. Are you a conniving snake? Most certainly.
>>2546181Wow moralism much?
>>2546165I'd prefer it if we all could live under socialism harmoniously but I guess impotent revenge fantasies against "da westoids" is the best we've got for now
>>2546184That’s not moralism. That’s basic observation you liberal snake.
>>2546185You and people who look exactly like you have been raping and pillaging the entire world for 500 years and you expect to live in harmony?
>>2546191You’re literally American, you have no right to criticize anyone or anything
>>2546167>Where does this idea that americans love baseless cruelty come from lolthe countless photos of entire towns, not even a handful of klansmen, but entire towns of normies, smiling and pointing at mangled corpses of lynched men; the more recent photos of soldiers smiling at abu ghraib; the countless statements from americans joining the military saying they did it specifically to see what it's like to kill people; the popular support for any war that the government and media spend a few weeks justifying and manufacturing consent for; The fact that popular support for wars only goes down in america after they lose one; The presence of CIA torture dungeons all around the globe; the romanticization of the CIA and military and cops in american action movies; the amnesty given to unit 731 in exchange for the "intelligence" gathered there; having the largest prison population per capita on earth; the ongoing police brutality; the history of being founded on genocide and slavery; the feeling of entitlement to the natural resources of other countries, to the point of starting wars over them; the medical experimentation on their own population, like the tuskegee experiments, or operation drop kick where thousands of mosquitos were dropped in poor working class areas in florida to see how fast disease would spread, etc.
all off the dome
>>2546195>You’re literally AmericanAnd you’re literally a liberal snake.
>you have no right to criticize anyone or anythingBased on your morality of course. Whatever you say, granter of “rights”.
>>2546000>>2545996Americans are so cooked.
>>2546184>>2546191>>2546195>>2546201Gentlemen, gentlemen please! Both of you are acting like white liberal American moralists.
>>2546204That’s literally one person
>>2546205Okay centrist
>>2546193Ah yes how could I have forgotten how I personally toured Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, started the slave trade, killed the Native Americans, etc
>>2546185I'd prefer it if we all could live under socialism harmoniously but the american government and its allies are so committed to stopping that they must be defeated first. don't worry, the actual militant proletarians in the imperial core will side against their governments when the time comes, and the reactionaries will cry "ummm this is an impotent revenge fantasy against the west"
>>2546208lift a finger to stop the american imperialism and try not to characterize any such attempt as moralism or impotent revenge fantasies
>>2546207>Okay centristYou are most certainly more of a liberal centrist than me.
>>2546208Yes you are responsible for the image of your ethnic group, what your ethnic group does will reflect on you, time to start correcting it before the JDPON sends you into the Congolese coltan mines so others can finally have a playstation
(USER WAS SENT TO THE COLTAN MINES FOR THIS POST) >>2546209Hey I'm more than happy to wear the flayed skin of politicians and warmongers and use their bones to created houses for the homeless when the time comes, that's just how proletarian revolution works. No JDPON collective punishment necessary
>>2546211the tragedy of the neocon:
>imperialism is based, lets spread our power[20 years later…]
<legalize gay marriage or we will sanction youwhat happened?
>>2546211>Why hasn’t /leftypol/ caught on to the neocon pill yet?Are you 12? /leftypol/ has been talking about neocons since its inception.
>Everyone loves to hate on them: call them globalists, ZOG, whatever but let’s be honest. The problem with the neocons wasn’t that they were too imperialist; it’s that they weren’t imperialist enough. oh, it's bait
>They actually believed in something: projecting power, enforcing order, shaping the world in our image. They didn’t sit around doomposting about “white decline” they made history, bombs and all.and you say they weren't imperialist enough?
>Neocons were everything Hitler wanted to be and more. They understood that might makes right, that “democracy” is just a polite word for domination, and that moral crusades are how empires sanctify conquest. You can whine about “muh forever wars,” but who else was actually asserting Western Supremacy on a global scale? The so-called dissident right spends its days role-playing as martyrs, while the neocons at least ran the largest empire in the history of mankind!and you say they weren't imperialist enough?
>Glad to see Nick Fuentes finally catching on. Here’s hoping the rest of you wake up soon.Retarded Fuentes shill.
>>2546167I didn't even say "love baseless cruelty", the problem is that they have little to no concept of politics being anything other than what politicians do, so they go to the politicians.
>unsupportive of Trump's handling of the LA protests and doughboys were simply beating up protesters. What did it actually lead to beyond stunts?
>>2546218<legalize gay marriage or we will sanction youthat's not why the imperialists use sanctions, you're just doing idpol
>>2546217>No JDPON collective punishment necessarydid anyone say JDPON collective punishment or did you get scared because someone made a negative comment about america in response to an anecdote about reagan and nixon dehumanizing africans
>>2546193>You and people who look exactly like you have been raping and pillaging the entire world for 500 years and you expect to live in harmony?good to see we're just going to base, blase racism.
>>2546213>Yes you are responsible for the image of your ethnic group, what your ethnic group does will reflect on youZionazis would agree with this.
>>2546226that convenient strawpost came
after anon got scared because someone made a negative comment about america in response to an anecdote about reagan and nixon dehumanizing africans
>>2546224I mean I just inferred it based on posts like
>>2546193 and
>>2546213 which very much imply a collective punishment due to people who "look exactly like me" having done bad shit in the past. I'm just a dude
>>2546229well those weren't me and those are such obvious trollposts that should just be reported and ignored for rule 14
>>2546230oh so people ARE actually saying that but they're just trolls and can't be counted, guess you win again, faggot
>>2546230As if racial politics don’t apply in a global apartheid system, you lose an argument and run to jannys like a little playground tattle tale because you know how exactly how relatively privileged you are, like a white south african worker
>>2546045>there will be LAWSUITS coming soon!!the horror says the state.
>mayor mayor please lower the police funding!lmao. if there's something the US will never have under the system is in, it's a de-funded or poorly-funded violent force.
>ackhually this is a constitution violation how can the police be fine with thisLMAOwell, that's lib-ddit for you.
>>2546229Random Israeli settlers are just dudes as well
>>2546236the overwhelming majority of israeli settlers are people who moved there within their lifetimes, a very deliberate choice.
>>2546232the entire conversation started because someone posted reagan and nixon calling africans monkeys, I said the imperial core should be brought low, and then someone cried that I was a moralist doing impotent revenge fantasies and only then did the convenient strawposts start showing up. if something violates rule 11 or 14 just report it and hide it instead of feeding it and conflating it with whoever actually was there at the beginning of the conversation. Imagine if I hopped on a VPN right now and started pretending to be the most bloodthirsty american imperialist just to make your "side" look bad. would that be worthy of all the attention too?
>>2546230Well what can I say man people actually say this shit for realsies on here and mean it so it's not always easy to tell when someone's just doing some shitty trolling or genuinely deranged and it certainly doesn't help when people flip flop back and forth between "just joking" and "I am no longer joking" on a regular basis. All I'm saying is that I think the desire for America and the rest of "the west" to become irrelevant backwaters due to the behavior and actions of their leadership is counterintuitive to the goal of a global communist world order. This isn't me being "scared" of anything
>>2546238there are people on here who have been saying the same "all westoids need to be murdered and tortured" for literally months, why in the hell should I believe that it's just some convenient strawposting
>>2546220>What did it actually lead to beyond stunts?It was the public saying it was unacceptable. The bourgeoise would never dare publicly execute government dissenters if they can't even rally general support for putting down the LA protestors throwing bricks at ICE vehicles
>>2546241If you don’t think that sentiment comes from a legitimate place you’re submental
>>2546243so they don't actually say that, but when they do, they're legit in saying it anyway.
Why even bother at this point then? Just say yeah, JDPON rape every american with a bayonet.
>>2546207>That’s literally one personand the most insane purity test person when it comes to global governments.
he comes, talks about zionist-pedophile-billionaire-genocide bla bla bla, and then will put a happy face on a radical centrist democrat.
>>2546241>"all westoids need to be murdered and tortured"i watch these conversations all the time
it goes more like
Person 1: Down with american imperialism
Person 2: So you're saying lynch all westoids?
Person 1: No I'm saying down with american imperialism
Person 2 (on VPN pretending to be person 3): Lynch all westoids!
Person 1: How convenient
Person 2: aha! I have proof!
>>2546241idgaf about these trolls man, all that happened from my perspective is someone posted reagan and nixons calling africans monkeys for recognizing the PRC, I reacted with how that made me feel, and someone started saying I was doing impotent revenge fantasies, and asking me for a source for my opinion, and now you are making me answer for every stupid post random people have made since then. if you want to focus on those idiots instead of reporting them that's your prerogative but I'm not gonna answer for them. I said how I felt already and it's not the same as them. Period.
>>2546249>Does settler colonialism become OK after a couple of generations when most of the settler-descendants can claim they were born on the land?a nice loaded question, but the "do settler-colonists become native to the land after many generations" is yes, for example, if we went to the boers in south africa, are they not native to the land? many of them have been living in south africa since the 16th and 17th century, they are as native to the land as any other, of course this doesn't make them immune from criticism, but not even julius malema, the "kill the boer" guy, sincerely believes that they are not native, precisely because they are, the same is also true of any american born from a family that's been there for as long as they have, do they suddenly inherit their settler-colonial status, merely because 4-5 generations ago, their relatives were settler-colonists? settler-colonist is a temporary position, not an eternal blood-crime
>>2546252people say “lynch all westoids” all the time here, stop gaslighting.
So when is based american proletariat doing revolution
>>2546211vidrel. go suck dry the dick of your nazi moron.
>>2546103icons of racism.
>>2546260well i'm not one of them and i refuse to get lumped in with or made to answer for them when I said something way different
>>2546261wow reagan is a racist piece of shit, big shock guys
>>2546258how was the question loaded
>>2546266anyone reacting negatively to that pic is doing moralism and saying lynch all westoids i guess teehee!!!!
>>2546258>eternal blood-crimeshit nobody said or even implied award
>>25462622032 when a caesarist Longist general coups the federal government after the bubble pops and food riots happen
>>2546261Reagan is seething. A tiny schadenfreude. Dont care about africans getting called monkeys. People call each other names all the time. What does it matter if it is because of race or something else? African getting called a monkey is no different that a random guy being called a dickhead
(Reactionary) >>2546271>the brits are even worseshocker
>>2546270it is treated as one, and in fact is directly implied in that post when you mention other nations founded by these people being treated differently because "it's been long enough" (yet leaving out a country like brazil, one of the few countries on earth where settler-colonialism is happening)
>>2546274they're more neurotic i'd say
>>2546276>great gatsby themed partygilded age moment
>>2546273>Dont care about africans getting called monkeys. People call each other names all the time. What does it matter if it is because of race or something else? African getting called a monkey is no different that a random guy being called a dickheadso when I said
>May the USA, Europe, Canada, and Australia become irrelevant backwaters eclipsed by Africa, Latin America, and Asiawas I saying "lynch all whites" or doing a hecking "moralism" as others implied? Must I be made to answer for retarded posts like:
>>2546193>>2546213which I did not make?
>>2546278no I never said "eternal blood crime" just admit that was a hyperbolic mischaracterization
>>2546277What does it matter for what reason people believe others to be inferior and themselves superior?
>>2546282you and others are treating it like it is
>>2546278>they're more neurotic i'd saybeing trapped on an island and become lapdogs of a former colony must be terrifying, exhausting and neuroticizing.
>>2546280I am fine with living in backwater. As if there are no backwaters with low standards of life in any place
>>2546289what's funny is that China is going to make America a backwater without even lowering America's standard of living, that's how fast the rest of the world is developing beyond the American way of doing things. The American-style bourgeois republic will be a relic of the 18th century.
>>2546284It wasnt a bait. I dont see anything special in white man of old times calling africans monkeys in private conversation. Was i supposed to feel bad for africans because they get called that?
>>2546287none of those, it's rather that there isn't really a "british" culture or anything really "british" beyond bygone dreams of a RETVRN to imperialism or whatever, so they become increasingly neurotic about "preserving" this "culture" that doesn't quite exist
>moralism
The lives of the vast majority of "westoids" suck on an objective level and if you look past the aesthetics of glitz and glamour most of their advantages are extremely hollow and superficial. Yeah Americans might have 20 brands of chips with 50 flavors each and the latest slop phone, and in exchange a single medical emergency can leave one destitute, housing is prohibitively expensive even if you have a good salary, nobody owns anything, there's no solidarity from your neighbors let alone the rest of the country because everyone hates each other and is convinced that stepping on others is the way to personal success…the list goes on and on. Communism would drastically improve the quality of life for most of us even if our actual material possessions are fewer because we'll finally have community and solidarity and a world where people aren't encouraged to screw each other over constantly and mock the suffering of the less fortunate.
>>2546290BBC is superior, though. Sexual selection is the ultimate truth
>>2546298Good luck doing red terror on these treatlerites and ressentiment driven third worldists
We must believe in le GLOBAL proletariat
>>2546292>special in white man of old times calling africans monkeys in private conversationit wasn't just a regular white folksy man walking on the street in a rag suit.
it was the governor of one of the biggest states of the US, and the president of 50 large states of the world.
and it's racist. racism it's a
state, not just words, and when two powerful white men talk like that in a
state like the US where (re)-segregation, discrimination runs rampant, it's racist.
So when this country has a revolution are we gonna build socialism just in the empire or are we gonna start invading all the bourgeois countries around us rambo style
>>2546307The way I see it, America is kinda the lynchpin of the neoliberal world order as a whole, so its fall to a communist revolution will cause the whole thing to tumble down. There would be shockwaves all over Europe as well as other settler colonial states as the global economy collapses, and it's likely such a revolutionary wave will spread to many of the BRICS powers as well. Assuming China is true to their word they'll have no more excuses to be in their "holding position" and can advance towards communism unimpeded. Of course, the bourgeoisie aren't going to go down without a fight, so in whatever nations aren't engulfed by revolutionary fever they're going to band together and probably team up with various reactionary states in the third world in a last ditch attempt to "restore democracy". How impactful this counterrevolution will be depends on whether or not Russia sits it out, goes communist itself, or decides to join the final crusade against communism because something something American degeneracy
>>2546310>so its fall to a communist revolution will cause the whole thing to tumble downThere may be some truth to that, but at the same time this was the prevailing thought of all the Russian communists in 1917, and they were wrong. I'm not sure it can be taken for granted that we'd be the first domino to fall
Did 'Merica shit on China's belt and road initiative?
>>2546311>There may be some truth to that, but at the same time this was the prevailing thought of all the Russian communists in 1917Not really. They thought that a revolution in Germany would be the trigger for a world revolution. When they realized that it wasn't spreading beyond Russia they basically started to think they were fucked and tried to come up with alternative strategies like Socialism in One Country.
>>2546313'Merica shat on China as a nation receiving recognition after its civil war:
>>2546103 >>2546311Yeah this
>>2546314The Russian Empire was a shell of its former self by the time of the October Revolution, they never expected to be the ones to carry the mantle of world revolution. That job was supposed to go to Germany or whatever other heavily industrialized nation became communist first that they could link up with
>>2545989Jeysus that was embarrassing.
Worst thing Skepta ever did. Utterly atrocious.
Here. have a palate cleanser.
Revolution will not happen in our lifetime.
>>2546314The Russian communists believed the fall of reactionary Tsarist despotism that would be the catalyst for revolution in Europe. They saw German revolution as crucial yes, but only brought about by the Russian one. Every action taken by the Bolsheviks and mensheviks post Feb 1917 reflected this belief. Now Americans believe it's reactionary American despotism as holding back global progress, and I think modern communists are gonna be disappointed if they expect an American revolution would automatically mean a global one
>>2546318It has to otherwise we're all kinda fucked
>>2546319Again though, Russia wasn't the epicenter of the global economy in the same way America is. America going communist is essentially knocking over the Jenga tower that is capitalism right off the bat
>>2546321We as in currently living people sure. Revolution will happen when humanity will be mutants living in wasteland deserts hundred years after us
>>2546321Revolution will not happen in our lifetime and there will be nothing done about climate until revolution
Guys, revolution wont happen. It will be eco fascism and total (insert a demographic) death
>>2546321Economies or productive forced aren't relevant here, what matters is how reactionary a state is along the path of historical development, reactionary Tsarist Russia was holding back history the same way reactionary Neoliberalim holds back history today. Ignoring the lessons learned by the previous communist experience is a huge mistake
>>2546069Andrew Jackson might have been worse
Reactionary Neoliberalist america*
Americans are such cucks. Literally watching brownshirts terrorize, disappear, and murder people and all they can say, “there’s nothing to be done”
>>2546323>>2546324Reactionary pessimism
>>2546326They're both "holding back history" yes but they're in very different positions and in this case economies and productive forces absolutely are relevant here. Much of the world economy is still centered around the United States, an economic crash here affects the entire world. So what do you think is going to happen when the entire basis of the world economy is rugpulled out of existence? No more stock exchange, no more Wall Street, NATO effectively becoming defunct, you really think that's not going to have a massive impact on the rest of the world? There weren't a shitload of countries and governments reliant on the Russian Empire for their own economy and stability unlike us
>>2546240Uh oh, you’re sounding like you want to “perfect imperialism” now and something-something “gorge on the blood of others”
>>2546240>>2546342so not only do i have to answers for posts i didn't make, not only will you not report them and ignore them for rule 14 (which I did immediately upon seeing them) but I must have my posts constantly and sarcastically compared to those troll posts through "scare quoting" shit I didn't say. They get endless attention and the much more reasonable stuff gets zero attention due to utter lack of discretion, discipline, or nuance. Ignore retards and move on rather than making everything revolve around them.
>>2546344Nah man I agree with you. The posts arguing for collective punishment are insane and counter-productive. Only thing is I’ve argued that before and the result is some schizo stalking the threads talking about how because I don’t want my neighbors or myself to be forced to live in mud huts and grovel as penance then I’m “perfecting imperialism” or “consuming the blood of the workers” or some shit.
>>2546330Is there a way to help them uncuck themselves? What is to be done when what happens next depends 100% on a cucked working class that refuses to uncuck themselves?
>>2546319instantly and immediately, no, but over time yeah probably
>>2546351
Laura Loomer is a top tier pawg milf
>>2546351what the fuck? i guess it's because she's jewish but how is she one of the only rightoids saying this
>>2546359brother she's like 32 years old
Laura Loomer bubble butt pawg brunette. Big ass small tits
>>2546361Its literally because she is a Zionist rat and sees the writing on the wall for Pissrael and is coping that the GOP wing is increasingly anti-Israel
Bvilt fot BiBiSi
>>2546363>>2546366Actual shit taste. Calling her TOP TIER as a pawg milf is disgraceful. literally say Boebert or even MTG fits that description over decrepit Laura Loomer
>>2546336The world is already moving on from America. There's nothing they offer that the Chinese don't. So no I don't think America's fall will automatically mean 'socialism' everywhere else. There'll be Crisis and revolution abroad yes, but there's gonna be just as many fascist enemy states as friendly states.
Lenin also made the mistake of assuming other countries would be willing to join the soviet Union until there was a global Soviet. Obviously that never happened. I don't think countries outside our hemisphere are gonna want to release their sovereignty and join our socialist project willingly, even assuming they were socialist. Our two big oceans are great for defense but they sure isolate us
So the problem remains, since our revolution can't exactly be global if we aren't willing to invade places like India to destroy their bourgeoise, there's gonna be a certain point where we'll stop, build socialism in one country and learn to exist with whatever global order emerges out there after World War 3.
>>2546377I guess she's from genus Homo.
>>2546377I know right? Bogged face tan 32 y/o 40 y/o looking women are top tier
>>2546375
grind up copies of the bible into dust, turn churches into bars, require a denunciation of christianity before ever assuming any form of public office
>>2546377Horror movie shit
>>2546373>I don't think countries outside our hemisphere are gonna want to release their sovereignty and join our socialist project willingly, even assuming they were socialistHot take, even if socialism becomes global, we will end up in geopolitical conflicts over someone doing socialism incorrectly and that they are the real socialists leading to communism. Socialist Venezuela condemning Yankee Socialism as red imperialism or Yankee Socialist calling China red fascists or A returned Soviet Russia condemning Yanks as putting a facade on socialism or if some miracle a Syndicalist revolution happens in a random spot like Argentina and state that all other socialist states are statists and not real socialism.The socialist stage will still be struggle over this
>>2546375
People dont need religion to gay bash. See people still using bourgeois decadence or quoting Maxim Gorky.
Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi (Hebrew: יפעת תומר-ירושלמי; born 1974) is a major general in the Israel Defense Forces who served as the chief military advocate from 1 September 2021 to 31 October 2025. She resigned after admitting to authorizing the release of classified surveillance of Israeli abuse of Palestinian prisoners at Sde Teiman detention camp during the Gaza war. She was the second woman in the history of the IDF to hold this rank.[1] Previously, she served as the gender affairs advisor to the chief of staff of the IDF.[1]
Resignation
On 31 October 2025, Tomer-Yerushalmi resigned from her post after admitting she was responsible for leaking a classified surveillance video to the media.[6][7] The video, which was broadcast by Israel's Channel 12 in August 2024, purported to show the alleged assault of a Palestinian detainee by Israeli soldiers at the Sde Teiman detention camp.[8] The leak and the video generated significant political backlash.[9][10][11][12][13]
The leaked footage showed soldiers at the Sde Teiman facility taking a detainee aside and surrounding him with riot shields to block visibility.[14] Reports indicated that the detainee was subsequently stabbed in the rectum with a sharp object, an act characterized by some sources as sexual assault or sodomy.[15] The abuse was so severe that the detainee suffered serious injuries and required hospitalization.[6] Following an investigation into the incident, five Israeli reserve soldiers were charged with aggravated abuse and causing serious bodily harm; they denied the charges.[16]
In her resignation letter, Tomer-Yerushalmi stated that she had approved the release of the material "in an attempt to counter false propaganda against the army's law enforcement authorities".[14] She was referring to claims by right-wing political figures that reports of detainee abuse were fabricated.[8] She emphasized the military's legal and ethical duty to investigate unlawful acts, even in war, and expressed regret that the principle that "there are actions which must never be taken even against the vilest of detainees" was no longer universally accepted.[6] Her resignation came after a criminal probe was launched into the leak, and she was placed on leave.[8]
Defense Minister Israel Katz welcomed Tomer-Yerushalmi's resignation, stating that anyone who spreads "blood libels against IDF troops is unfit to wear the army's uniform".[17]
On 2 November, the IDF stated that Tomer-Yerushalmi had gone missing. Search efforts focused on Hatzuk Beach in Tel Aviv. At the time, she was scheduled to be questioned as part of the criminal investigation into the leak.[18]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yifat_Tomer-Yerushalmi>>2546373>The world is already moving on from America. There's nothing they offer that the Chinese don't. So no I don't think America's fall will automatically mean 'socialism' everywhere else.America is pretty much the only ideological faction maintaining the Capitalist global order. Europe is irrelevant. China is Communist. Brazil is SocDem. India is still a hundred years away from being a regional power let alone a world power. Who will maintain neoliberalism without America? Who will coup random South American countries to prevent left-populist revolutions?
Once America falls the world will follow. Unless some other global superpower pops up out of nowhere. The Soviets failed their global revolution because America stepped in to cockblock them. There won't be anyone to do that if America falls.
>>2546336>Reactionary pessimismAnd they wonder why nothing ever happens
They think being extroverted, charismatic and not being an obnoxious doomer is a bad thing
All they do is hope that a revolution happens, but do nothing to make it happen or get people to want to make it happen because that'll make you a fed
>>2546389>Notable public figures described as having the Mar-a-Lago face include First Lady Melania Trump,[2] Matt Gaetz,[9] Kimberly Guilfoyle,[1] Kristi Noem,[2] and Trump's daughter-in-law Lara Trump.[7]one of these is not like the others
lmao
>>2546310My predictions
>communist pan America by the 2040s with a competitive and tense allyship with china. >Russia ironically because the last fortress of the bourgeoisie, it absorbs Western Europe through economic and political means. Little military intervention is needed due to being Western Europes only means of oil and many mineral/natural resources. >sadly this likely creates a second scramble for Africa and it becomes the main theater of war for ww4 Xi is not gonna save any of you, you guys are fucked.
>>2546397Sure, but that's the global order as it exists now. We need to envision these revolutionary events happening amongst the backdrop of a global conflict initiated by either the americans or the Europeans to save crumbling liberalism, which is very possible since Euros would literally to to war against Russia rather than accepting defeat in Ukraine. Anything is possible after this
What concerns me is how fascism is inherently superior in terms of organizing an economy to liberalism, but at least socialism trumps them both. I shudder to think of what a fascist india is capable of
>>2546410>fascism is inherently superior in terms of organizing an economy to liberalismI feel like this is an unfounded claim but admittedly I don't read a lot about fascism's economic policies. My impression is fascists just utilize the slave underclass to inflate productivity metrics but actual net production remains unchanged.
>>2546410>What concerns me is how fascism is inherently superior in terms of organizing an economy to liberalismNoncesense.
>>2546410>What concerns me is how fascism is inherently superior in terms of organizing an economy to liberalismsours?
>>2546407Xi will save me in particular because I watch Chinese anime and spend on Chinese gacha games to help empower the Chinese economy.
>>2546413>>2546414A fascist economy can better mobilize it's productive forces, liberalism is restricted to profit incentive
There was no profit incentive when spending vast amounts of time money and resources exterminating non-germans (producers of just as much value as anyone else)
Fascism is liberalism fyi
Liberalism is individualist profit incentive I must add. Fascism put the whole of German societies productivity into a single purpose - exterminating non-germans. Liberalism is incapable of mobilizing this way because it's not collectivist
>>2546416Now correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't utilizing slave labor (as a good portion of those exterminated by nazis were literally worked to death) fairly profitable for the companies involved in it?
>>2546416You realize Roman fascism was the predecessor to European Feudalism, which was succeeded by Capitalism due to each being more efficient than the last?
Putting all the state's productive capabilities in the hands of a bunch of morons that are too preoccupied with intangible hierarchical nonsense like caste systems instead of material conditions is not more efficient than profit incentive. Liberalism is wholly superior at real economic growth.
>>2546419Liberalism is not inherently anti collectivist. Liberalism is inherently under rule of capital.
German fascism convinced the German people that whatever was good for the state was good for the individual people. liberalism flips this on its head, whatever is good for an individual must be good for the overall state
>>2546421A slave will never be as good at their job as a professional laborer. Slaves are basically only "efficient" at the most menial of tasks where there is little room for sabotage or error, because the slavemaster cannot afford to train their slaves to engage in critical thinking, and the slave has no personal attachment to their work that would encourage them to do it well.
For example, how many doctors were slaves under fascism? How many engineers? Slave societies can't really survive post-industrialism as a population moves away from extracting/refining natural resources to selling services/products that the slave can't produce.
>>2546416>if you just don't think about the long term consequences you can actually gouge your own eyes out pretty efficientlyuh-huh
>>2546416To be honest I don’t find this convincing since they ran their countries into the ground.
>>2546426Liberalism does both
>>2546431They’re going to eat each other
>>2546421I'm not saying there wasn't a profit motive, capitalists in germany made money, but it would organized on the basis on race, not economic expediency
was*
>>2546429also there's the whole analysis on the german diet from 1920's to 1930's showing that both the quality and net calories dropped dramatically. Including for the hecking wholesome aryanirinos.
>>2546420Brahmin Hindus are basically like Israelis with how they believe they're born as a chosen people and everyone else needs to bow down to them and shit.
>>2546429That was thanks to communism which exists in like one or two places on the planet. Fascism in south america or Europe would pretty much be uncontested in terms of their expansionist aims
>>2546428You're forgetting that fascism Is expansionist
Had Tsarist despotism remained until WW2 there's no doubt German fascism would soundly defeat Britain for continental dominance and then all of a sudden a quarter of the planet speaks German. And you people think liberalism is superior to fascism? You're in for a big surprise
>>2546427I agree slavery is inefficient but one of my beliefs is that Capitalism itself is inefficient. Y'know you point to doctors being made to slave away as a failing, but I think from the capitalist perspective its irrelevant, does it look good on their balance sheet?
Like our entire economy at this point is so financialized that it's based on basically producing nothing but shilling stock buybacks, I think that's, at its core, an inefficiency. However I'd take business classes in uni, they made us do a simulation on running some "shoe factory" or whatever, and my group and I discovered that things like trying to improve production or build more facilities still left us less "valuable" than the folks that did nothing but buyback their stock.
>>2546433>>2546416But why is this more efficient than profit motive? Profit motive isn't just some net detriment to society, it's not not s effective as we need to manage what we've built. You can't just huff paint and say whitey is better fuk da proffits and get a better system
>>2546439No, the German economy was going to collapse either way.
>>2546447Just not as effective*
>>2546431how do you pronounce that name
>>2546420Atheists use to hate crosses put everywhere on public property but wait until Indians have a little more political control.
They love their big stupid idols.
>>2546420You know, maybe what China does to religions is actually a good idea. That is do not encourage them and try to stamp them out through reeducation.
>>2546447Because no German wanted to start another global conflict just so a few bankers could make money. They wouldn't be contributing every waking moment dedicated to the cause like the fascist Germans did when they signed up for a global conflict on the basis of 'treats for germans, invasion and extermination for everyone else'. Basically, a fascist regime can remain insolvent longer than most liberal states can remain solvent, and they'll pounce when vulnerability is detected, squeeze a nation for valuables to sustain them until the whole world is theirs
>>2546448What Germany needed was oil, and they were very close to seizing the baku oil fields. WW2 would've ended much differently if they did
>>2546466He's going to give him Clorox
>>2546467what a victory for privatized healthcare that the president has to intervene with taxpayer dollars on the behalf of a single individual because the private hospital left him to die.
>>2546467>>2546466Trump is making the socdem dream real by granting one request at a time.
>>2546466i dont agree with giannis varofakis and his neofeudalism, but this type of thing does seem like a throwback to feudal ages where people would touch the king's robe in the hope it would heal their ailment, or write a petition to the king in the hopes the wise king would see the truth instead of his corrupt barons. too bad the king was giving the orders to his barons to make life miserable.
>>2546466>>2546467>>2546468>>2546469Funny enough Trump's returning to the old Patronage style of politics which, while nakedly corrupt, makes at least some rational sense.
There was something I saw ages ago that was basically like, under more nakedly authoritarian or corrupt forms of government, there are greater pushes for some amount of welfare or bread and circuses. Y'know you've got some cartels that do infrastructure projects, in Italy you'd have politicians literally just throwing coins from balconies, in America you'd get a thanksgiving Turkey from the local machine politician.
So the advancements of liberalism, especially the anti-corruption measures put in place after WW2, kind of rendered a lot of that unnecessary or actively frowned on. It's no real shock because under a genuine democratic system you shouldn't
need what amounts to an explicit bribe from politicians to get some level of buy-in. If its truly representative of your needs then the roads should just be built because you need the roads to be built
Neoliberalism took all that anti-corruption stuff, and for the past couple decades found some perfect equilibrium for the capitalist classes where not only was the state not expected to do
anything for people, but it didn't even have to bribe them into contentment! You just keep dangling the promise of "Vote and things will change" in front of them and they'll placidly accept you ripping them off and tearing down their homes because "Well I just didn't VOOOOOOOOOOOOT hard enough!!!"
The cunning of Trump, like the cunning of other corrupt oligarchs, is he can recognize that the people's needs aren't being met by the present system and finds it more efficient to offer individual bribes on occasion than come up with some hackneyed think-tank response. In that regard he's actually
more receptive than the average politician because he plays the role of some fickle king dispensing treasures to unwashed peasants, and every single one of those peasants is convinced that if they just appeal to The King they'll have an out, too! Dude getting arrested for refusing to pay alimony? He's praying "Help me, President Trump!" Medicaid cuts endangering your children and you? You get on twitter and appeal directly to The King: "Please President Trump, help me!"
There was a woman who went to one of his rallies as a veteran who was out of work, and I think Trump just said "Well go to Trump tower and say I told them to give you a job." No idea if he actually followed through on it, but that's the magic of Trumpism. It
has no collective solution. There is no out for the working class as a whole, or America as a whole, but its promising that
YOU INDIVIDUALLY can be saved by appealing to the god-king; it's the logic of the lottery applied to the whole country. Powerball is an idiot tax until it creeps up to $1.5 billion, then you start thinking "Maybe I'll be the lucky one?"
And what's the Democrats response? "Erm, actually things are going to be bad for
everyone sweety, that's just how things are!" Trump is offering them individually a chance to escape their circumstances (a highly unlikely, improbable one) and they're certain they're all gonna be the lucky ones, they're gonna be the new millionaires, they're gonna be the new ruling class. Meanwhile the Dems just say "Well yeah things are more expensive, but that's the price of freedom!"
>>2546480>Meanwhile the Dems just say "Well yeah things are more expensive, but that's the price of freedom!"this is what landed the republicans in a seriously hated position by 2007. Only they were in power at the time and it cost them 2008 badly, the Democrats are not in power right now.
>>2546458Are you intellectually disabled, or intellectually disabled and also a fascist?
All you explained was how people would be more willing to sacrifice themselves to stupid, pointless deaths than anything whatsoever to do with economic efficiency or power. What you described doesn't say a lick about whether productivity per labor hour or per resource or whatever else went up or down, just that people were more willing to get into human hamster wheels and run for longer.
>>2546482Thing is when the Republicans are out of power they actively attempt to sabotage the party holding power. That was the genius of Mitch McConnell—instead of trying to compromise and earn some goodwill as was expected for a party that fucked up as badly as the Republicans did in 2008, they would just heighten the catastrophe and blame it on Democrat incompetence. They’d fight, they’d present an alternative vision.
Chuck Schumer was asked I believe yesterday whether he’d vote for Zohran. His response? “We are having conversations and will continue to have them.” The reporter pointed out voting is on Tuesday and he just ignored the guy and left. The democrats aren’t even offering voters the spectacle of making it hard for Trump to govern. The Dems would talk nonstop about how Republicans blocked everything and were the “party of no” while Trump just calls them losers and mocks the fact they can’t do anything to meaningfully stop him.
The ONLY solution to Trump is collectivism as an alternative. Either we ALL have policy that helps ALL of us, or none of us do. Theres no lottery solution where you’re the super special individual that escapes poverty, we hang together or hang separately.
>>2546480> in Italy you'd have politicians literally just throwing coins from balconiesBrother where
>>2546298> "westoids" Everything you said was correct with exception of this. Your average Western Euroid has a better standard of living than the average American.
>>2546492Heard about it in Behind the Bastards episode on Gabriele D’Anunzzio. Apparently his village at least had a local tradition where during some festival the mayor or richest man in town (D’annunzio’s father) would go to the balcony of his villa and just throw gold coins at the masses below.
>>2546498Isn't the who hosts that a huge glowie?
>>2546500Dunno, don’t think that fundamentally undermines their research unless proven otherwise.
>>2546515spread disinformation award, he worked for bellingcat though
>>2546498Dude that was a century ago
>>2546526
I’m not going to be lectured by someone who posted pictures of his own semen here. You are a bad joke Fedlix!
>>2546533
we're gonna make this board so "right wing" that we will push third worldists like you out of here
Guys dont let Felix derail again
Anyways, what's the over under on food riots by the end of the week? What's our plan of action for when they happen?
>>2546546acquire tons of food and toss it to people in downtown
>>2546533
You're fascist cuck who simps for gay nazi, shut up bitch
>>2546546>imblying that's Felix.c'mon, now. he would never side with nazis.
i dont like felix much but i dont think he'd sink to fuentes posting
>>2546526
Remember when moffin was shilling that asian youtuber that turned out to be a holocaust denier lol
Why do third worlders make this general seethe so much?
>>2546546Right now I'm gonna contact some local food pantries to see what they need. Figure that's a better form of distribution. I've bought customers in a pinch some groceries before so I might end up doing that again.
>>2546564proof? i think that's just normal anons on the site
I have to put my dog to sleep tomorrow. I am reminded that I gave her a full life and didn't shoot her like Kristi noem killed her puppy
>>2546546>>2546570Wouldn't donating food just slow down the collapse? You're effectively taking on the burden of the state.
Just let things fall apart and be done with it. Or at least start organizing your own group to at least radicalize people while handing out food so they know where their loyalties should be.
>>2546585>I have to put my dog to sleep tomorrow.that sucks
>>2546591Yeah terminal cancer. Its okay though she's got pain meds and stuff keeping her calm but quality of life down too much at this point b
>>2546564I do remember, because I was the one who did the research, when Moffin' quoted InDefenseOfCommunism as a 'proof' of 'Russia being X', x: imperialist, fascist, etc., an org whose founder studied in Tel Aviv, in a zionist academic institution, is friend with 'communists' and 'leftists' in zionistland, continuously interviewing them and presented 'their side' as an attempt to whitewash zionist society in zionistland.
good time, eh.
(he never replied back, the evasive weasel and sneaky bitch).
>>2546585>>2546596Jesus man I'm sorry to hear that. We don't deserve dogs, they're some of the best companions ever.
>>2546586When people need food my first instinct is to try to help. That said you raise valid points.
>>2546592I shared one video of him over /ISG/, I don't even recall when or talking about what, and you call that shilling?
>>2546598#doubt
>>2546598holy fucking meds, IDcommunism is an italian org
>>2546610Funny how he goes to ask other retard liberals about it instead of going to the source. Reddit liberals are legitimately some of the dumbest most naive motherfuckers alive.
>>2546610authoritarians pretending to be socialists is evil but who gives a shit about reddit + probably all bots and glowies
>>2546616why do people give attention to this neo-fascist bitch
>>2546610The whole world is predicated on violence and murder but it’s only “authoritarian” when downtrodden people strike back, spit in the eye of liberal dogs.
>>2546615
Yes I own a Pitt and yes I know you're the "torture dogs for your own amusement" kind of psycho Felix.
>>2546585Sorry anon, shit's tough.
>>2546603>#doubtyeah, yeah. play ignorance. it's a shame I forgot to screenshot your post linking IDOC.
>>2546607Nikos Mottas, the founder, studied in Tel Aviv, international relations at the University of Tel Aviv.
https://ekdoseis-atexnos.gr/profiles/%CE%BD%CE%AF%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%82-%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%84%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%82/ask yourself: why IDOC continues its attempt interviewing to Ofer Cassif and Reem Hazan, which is a de-facto a whitewashing attempt of the zionist state?
everything from zionistland must be ignored, and censored. there's no room to accept people from there. 0.
>>2546632
She kind of looks like mine, he's a Pitt Corso. He's just such a sweet boy and looks up at people with so much love in his eyes. Dude it breaks my heart you're going through this.
Take all the time you need to grieve my man.
Feds plan cash rewards for private bounty hunters to track down immigrantshttps://archive.ph/fG6ri>U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is considering hiring private bounty hunters to locate immigrants across the country, according to a procurement document reviewed by The Intercept. Under the plan, bounty hunters may receive “monetary bonuses” depending on how successfully they track down their targets — and how many immigrants they then report to ICE.
>According to the document, which solicits information from interested contractors for a potentially forthcoming contract opportunity, companies hired by ICE will be given bundles of information on 10,000 immigrants at a time to locate, with further assignments provided in “increments of 10,000 up to 1,000,000.”
>The solicitation says ICE is “exploring an incentive based pricing structure” to encourage quick results, with “monetary bonuses” paid out based on performance. For example, ICE says contractors might get paid a bonus for identifying a person’s correct address on the first try or finding 90 percent of its targets within a set timeframe…
>The document closely resembles a plan reportedly circulated by a group of military contractors, including former Blackwater CEO and Trump ally Erik Prince. >>2546632
Cute doggo
>In texts shared by Florida Today in 2022, Randy Fine called a school board member a "whore" and threatened Special Olympics funding over a lack of an invitation to a fundraiser at a local Chick-Fil-A.
Florida's finest
>>2546586>>2546602THROW
FOOD
AT PEOPLE
WITH PROPAGANDA ATTACHED
How is this so hard
People are going to follow whoever the fuck feeds them when the system fails to. Make people listen to you telling them how the system is failing them while they're in a big cluster waiting to get free food around you. When people are dependent on you, you write reality for them.
Wear a uniform outfit, have recognizable logos, people should see you on the street later and go "hey you're with the people who gave me cans of food when the government wouldn't"
It's a very basic power struggle over the simple fact that people have to be attached to some kind of system that feeds them day in, day out, and the government is literally ceding this fight and shrugging their shoulders. The government is lobbing a gentle called pitch over home plate while the outfielders are eating dandelions and jerking to their phones, you dont even have to hit it out of the field just get to first base with this
>>2546641Always lovely to hear from the baconator himself. Randy Swine.
A top FBI official with 27 years standing has reportedly been fired by the bureau after its director, Kash Patel, became enraged by press stories revealing he had used a government jet to travel to see his girlfriend sing the national anthem at a wrestling match.
Steven Palmer, who had worked at the bureau since 1998, was fired as head of the FBI’s critical incident response group which is responsible for handling major security threats as well as overseeing the agency’s fleet of jets. He was the third head of the unit to be dismissed since Patel became the second Trump administration’s FBI director in February.
Bloomberg Law, which broke the story, said that three unnamed sources had expressed astonishment at the sacking given that Patel’s flight schedules were fully public and trackable on websites. A day after her performance, Patel himself had reposted photos showing him together with his girlfriend, country singer Alexis Wilkins, on his X account.
According to Bloomberg, Patel had become furious over stories published after the event about his use of the FBI jet to go on the date with Wilkins. Soon after, Palmer had been told he could resign instantly or be fired.
The dismissal was made official on Friday.
Flight logs publicly trackable on Flight Aware for Patel’s plane, N708JH, show that the jet landed at an airport near Penn State on 25 October. That evening Wilkins performed at a Real American Freestyle wrestling event, and the flight logs show Patel’s FBI plane later flying to Nashville
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/02/fbi-fires-top-official-kash-patel-jet-use>>2546612what gets me abt the reddit lib crowd is just how arrogant they are in comparison to there complete lack of knowledge outside whatever random white collar technical skill they have for work. Its one thing to have a fairy tale level idealist conception of history and politics thats basically the default in the US as of now but what gets me is how absurdly confident reddit libs will be when all the academics and scientists they claim to represent have trouble even using words like "proven" in published work since that implies they have definite proof of something. Meanwhile reddit libs will say some shit like "socialism,feudalism and crony capitalism are all the same because people are told what to do, this is why there will always be a hierarchy with high autism score people at the top" with complete fucking certainty and not a hint of irony.
>>2546642>How is this so hardamerican lefties are a bit special
>>2546642What you guys need to think about isn't just "feeding people" but "how do i leverage this to get people to just think my gang will take better care of them"
Interest and loyalty is overwhelmingly bought, not convinced.
>>2546646>worked at the bureau since 1998That guy worked for the FBI longer than Kash Patel's
sex grooming victim girlfriend has been alive.
I'm leaving any party that spends time and money on handing out food for people. It's good for the soul but it does literally nothing in terms of building revolutionary consciousness
>>2546586Absolutely ridiculous. I have no clue why people unironically trumpet accelerationism as a strategy but it needs to stop. Immense amounts of people suffer via this hands-off, smug approach, and for what? At best, it simply reinforces the capitalist status quo by ceding all moral agency to them - allowing them to define the cause and solution of the problem. At worst, it makes the problem even worse by ceding authority to an even more corrupt power, i.e., the fascists. The problems of WW1 did not lead to socialism in Germany, it just led to even more instability that gave rise to fascism and an even more destructive environment. Neither did any of the struggles in the imperial core throughout the post-ww2 era, which only led to the reinforcement of the supremacy of capital as the foundation of cultural hegemony (to say nothing of the periphery).
>Marx … did not argue that it would be better if factory conditions got worse so workers would be forced into revolt. The fact that history advances by the bad side does not mean we should celebrate the ‘bad side’, but rather recognize this is the ground on which we struggle, which must be negated to constitute a new and just social order.>Lenin once described ‘left communism’ – the radical rejection of parliamentary elections and unions as sites of struggle – as an ‘infantile disorder’. I would describe contemporary accelerationism as a ‘postgraduate disorder’.>Those struggling to survive as precarious workers are as likely to turn on others as they are to start new forms of support and struggle that recognize the impossibility of work. This is, I think, one of the crucial conundrums of the present moment. Accelerationism tries to resolve it in machinic integration and extinction, which bypasses the problem of consciousness, awareness, and struggle in a logic of immersion.>A working solution, to be deliberately ironic, is to struggle for decommodification of our lives. Campaigns against privatization and for the return of privatized services to public control try to reduce our dependence on work by attacking the way work is supposed to account for all of our self-reproduction. These struggles are in parallel for struggles to defendpublic services, protect benefits, and sustain social and collective forms of support. While they may be unglamorous, especially compared to space travel, these struggles can negate the conditions of the impossibility of work by trying to detach ‘work’ from its ideological and material role as the validation of citizenship and existence.
>>2546656If you aren't going to provide for people in their hour of need then why the ever loving hell would they follow you?
honkoid status?
>>2546466>prostate cancer he didn't masturbate enough in his younger years
>>2546662The most revolutionary thing these apolitical people can do is stay hungry enough to not interfere with a communist vanguard party seizing power and taking away (bourgeois) democracy
>>2546666Were the Bolsheviks operating food kitchens on their own dime I'm not aware of
what if trump does away with term limits and obamna runs again
>>2546671Have fun spending time with your little famine relief effort. Real revolutionaries will realize the necessity of seizing power, the only way to truly ease peoples suffering
>>2546656>It's good for the soul but it does literally nothing in terms of building revolutionary consciousnessit does. it fucking does. you go, hand out the food, proceed to ask:
are you interested in our goals and then, proceed with
it might help with your problems.
>>2546610Permanent intelligence debuff from reading through all that garbage. I’m not sure if liberals should be committed to mental hospital or beaten for being so painfully stupid.
>>2546677More people will realize we're the solution to their problems by prioritizing money within the party through shit like propaganda. Charity is just giving money away and it doesn't reach much people dollar to people ratio wise
>>2546681Bruh this is post revolution. We aren't at that stage yet lol
I feel like ᴉuᴉlossnW when Hitler started babbling about being possessed by ancient Aryan spirits
Revolution status?
>>2546684>Bruh this is post revolution.1912
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1912/mar/17.htm
>It is the duty of every class-conscious worker and every class-conscious peasant to make this clear. This is our main task in connection with the famine. The organisation, wherever possible, of collections among the workers for the starving peasants and the forwarding of such funds through the Social-Democratic members of the Duma—that, of course, is also one of the necessary jobs >>2546689Lenin was a wise man
>>2546688postponed. vote bernie
>>2546692Bernhard Heinrich Sanders Hitler-Gomez III for president
>>2546689Yes I posted that. When people starve they become apathetical to the current regime. This is beneficial to us
But people are not starving, at least not a lot of people. So we are not in revolutionary conditions right now. I'm speaking from a position of future crisis, where a lot of people are starving
>>2546693We love our 🍔🍔🍔independent🍔🍔🍔 alternative media don't we folKKKs?
>>2546690From your link
>The famine will destroy millions of lives, but it will also destroy the last remnants of the savage, barbarian, slavish faith in the tsar, which has prevented the peasants from seeing that there must inevitably be a revolutionary fight against the tsarist monarchy and the landowners.This is exactly what I'm saying. But Lenin did not organize party efforts and money to secure food for peasants in the lead up to 1917, unless you can show me he did
>>2546683many such cases
>>2546669You shouldn't be blindly copy pasting someone else's strategy, especially without even understanding the material conditions for why they did/did not undertake specific actions (Russia was extremely spread out and this was a time without rapid transport, the Bolsheviks were an underground, often persecuted party with limited funds and no control over state apparatus or widespread infrastructure, Russia had historically suffered from frequent famines and a small group wouldn't be able to make a dent in it even if they wanted to, etc.)
https://www.sociostudies.org/journal/articles/2914785/ >>2546698If we had a bunch of free food we could distribute all the time, totally down for that. It does serve a purpose. But to spend money on is it crazy lol
>>2546702By the way this is subtle thing but notice trump says "he's not a socialist he's a communist he's worse than that". So now the word socialist has become so normalized that even Republicans have had to draw a distinction. Before they would just tie them together but now getting called s socialist does not hit so hard.
>>2546707good step in the right direction
>But Lenin did not organize party efforts and money to secure food for peasants in the lead up to 1917, unless you can show me he didhe literally says later in the same letter (which I have already quoted, and which you ignored on purpose) that
>The organisation, wherever possible, of collections among the workers for the starving peasants and the forwarding of such funds through the Social-Democratic members of the Duma—that, of course, is also one of the necessary jobsThis is pre-1914. The bolsheviks were still part of a social-democratic coaltion. So he is indeed directly advocating Bolshevik involvement in famine relief effort, while at the same time acknowledging that the famine itself will radicalize people.
But I shouldn't even
need to appeal to what the Bolsheviks did 113 years ago in the first place. That was your goalpost established here:
>>2546669>Were the Bolsheviks operating food kitchens on their own dime I'm not aware oIt was a completely arbitrary and stupid way to dismiss the necessity of winning the confidence of the workers by appearing during a bout of food insecurity to provide the relief… or would you rather the reactionaries and the churches monopolize that work?
>>2546701
>this sort of thing happens constantly
name 10 organized popular movements that are doing this in modern day america
>>2546705you do realize during the revolution you will need to feed an entire army and keep them well supplied, right? How do you win that army over if you can't even feed them before the revolution?
Friendly reminder during World War II when le HECKIN antifa soldiers fought for the United States against the Nazis the usa had:
Had a fully segregated military and had codified public segregation in the South.
In fact, only about ~3% of enlisted personnel who participated in a large cross-section survey given in March, 1943 thought Black and White soldiers should serve in the same outfits.
Had National Origin Quotas which reserved 94.41% of immigrant visas for Europeans.
To that end, the United States was 88.3% Non-Hispanic White in 1940.
Operated forced internment camps for Japanese-Americans, Italian-Americans and German-Americans.
These camps incarcerated ~120,000 Japanese-Americans, ~11,000 German-Americans and ~1,881 Italian-Americans, with no due-process.
Had the Philippines as a de-facto colony of the United States as the Commonwealth of the Philippines
>>2546709You're kinda missing my point. Lenin was raising money from the workers as donations to the starving peasantry. There was no allocation of party resources to feeding the starving people. I'm fine with raising money from the workers all day no problem, just not our money
>>2546718That's easy, just use the flesh of your adversaries. I hope you didn't think "eat the rich" was metaphorical
>>2546702>>2546707>>2546708reality: Zohran is a social democrat running for mayor on a bourgeois party ticket
anchor: he's a socialist [already engaging in hysteria]
trump: he's a communist, far worse than a socialist [one-upping the anchor's hysteria]
you: this is good for us because "socialism" is becoming normalized!!!
nick fuentes: heheh, time for national socialism to shine again!
Engels: Here is how communism is different from socialism: [picrel]
>>2546541
Aren't you an acp fan?
Every time i see tender-queer tumblr leftists quibble about being scared to own guns, I think if your political enemies are obsessed with guns and teach each other, and their kids, to use guns, but you won’t even learn basic self defense with any kind of weapon, that’s just a strategy for “I hate power and want to lose at politics forever”
you have to adapt yuor tactics to the current material conditions.
things are DESPERATE in america. people are STARVING and DYING in the streets like DOGS. these fucking turd worldists want to tell you that shit ain't so bad well FUCK EM.
in light of these DIRE material conditions, the RADICALIZED american proletariat will VOTE. they'll vote the hardest anyone has ever fucking voted just you wait and see. you will shit your pants
>>2546721>Lenin was raising money from the workers as donations to the starving peasantry. from the workers in the social democratic movement to specifically funnel through the social democratic members of the duma, to specifically win the confidence of the workers and peasants in social democracy, which is what Lenin was advocating for pre-1914
point is you were making pre-1914 russia your goalpost but you live in 2025 america. are you really saying our movement in america is militant and organized enough to begin a revolution before even winning the confidence of anyone?
>>2546718Where are you going to get enough cash for that? And what If porky won't supply you?
>>2546727All power to the DCCC!
>>2546730>heh, food costs moneyno shit, so do the weapons of revolution
>>2546729>are you really saying our movement in america is militant and organized enough to begin a revolution before even winning the confidence of anyone?nowhere close. This country needs to go through a few years of hard famine + total war before the mass of people are prepared to accept violent revolution as a solution
>>2546732Yep i was thinking of this very video lmao
>>2546735
You're right about the Panthers but wrong about copying MK.
>>2546735
we'll do spear of the nation shit as soon as we find people willing to talk about spear of the nation shit offline and not on this highly monitored trollbait farm
>>2546724You realize he's talking about "utopian socialists" here, right? Marx and Engels used the terms socialist and communist interchangeably, but they wanted to draw a distinction between themselves, "scientific socialists", and their predecessors/contemporaries, "utopian socialists", like Robert Owen, Charles Fourier, and Henri de Saint-Simon.
>>2546732it's two seconds long, did you fuck up?
>>2546742It's 2 minutes and 18 seconds. Load it again.
>>2546734The only way you'll ever be food secure is if you grow it yourself and that requires lots of land
>>2546740>You realize he's talking about "utopian socialists" here, right?Yes, which is what AOC, Bernie Sanders, Graham Platner and Zohran Mamdani are all modern forms of
>>2546746ok then go seize your land, seize your weapons, and seize your food, and give it to people who need it. that's revolution.
>>2546632
why are you killing her wtf
>>2546748Naztecs gonna Naztec
>>2546747No, they're not socialists at all (maybe Zohran, idk). Utopian socialists still wanted to transition away from capitalism, they just believed it could be done through "persuasion" and their opposition to capitalism was based on "moral" grounds, instead of material grounds (moral too, but it's not the fundamental reason) seen in "scientific socialism". They're socdems. They want to "reform" capitalism to be gentler, kinder, more humane… even though it's impossible. There is a difference between a demsoc and a socdem.
>>2546748Sometimes it's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_oppressionSometimes they just don't even identify themselves with other oppressed via mental gymnastics.
>>2546748whats their ethnicity?
>>2546748They likely consider themself whites.
You'd be surprised but in countries with descendants of westeners, those descendants usually consider themself white
>>2546756trvke on em
american communism WILL be voted in
>>2546756Because they aren't advocating for "some of the same measures the communists advocate". They aren't calling for workers to control the means of production or for the end of landlord-renter exploitation, or other similar transitory measures. They're merely asking for a bigger cushion, similar to those we see in socdem Europe. Are we going to call modern Europe socialist, now? Of course not.
Need new thread pls
>>2546751>NaztecWill forever be part of my vocabulary thank you anon
>>2546644Its for the ones that think fascism is a third position.
/pol/ for the most hates nick fuentes and makes fun of him non stop but by the gop going hard on him over Israel and antisemtism they are having to rally around him.
>>2546790reminder that nick fuentes had sex with destiny
trick fuentes, haz, ACP, it’s all /isg/fags fault for talking about them nonstop for years
>>2546612To be fair he should have asked on /r/ultraleft
>>2546647Genuinely if you talk to orcish subhuman pro-capitalist burgeroids on the internet you will see that the shit they claim to believe is so disgustingly retarded, so kindergarten tier and reliant on an utter misunderstanding of, like, human history, to the point that they have to actively forget civilization and agriculture didn’t always exist to spew the retarded circular logics they state; that it genuinely feels like they are lying
They’re just lying
Actually this feels extremely common for burgers of all political perspectives, just how easily and shamelessly they fucking lie
But especially capitalist shills
They will make up shit so utterly retarded they cannot possibly believe it by rant about it with fervent conviction
Case in point, this morning I asked some guy questions in a tiktok live, some petit booj anticommunist retard, I asked him where he thinks capitalism came from and the fucktard said something about “I have something you want, you have something I want, let’s trade!” couldn’t answer “why don’t people just make what they need?” Said retarded shit about “First you I have a lamb in my cabin in the woods, do you have a right to take it away?” when I asked him if he knows how “private property” came to be
When you talk to liberals long enough you see what true ideology is, since they’re lying at length essentially, because otherwise you need to accept that in this specific moment the liberal is genuinely willing to pretend as though time, history, society, and the world; none of them exist, there was no time at all before capitalism, like Genesis where God speaks the world into being and none precedes (this being made up by humans), to the Liberal, reality begins with a solitary market exchange of two individuals who peculiarly exist outside time, history, society, and even production itself
>>2546797I mean it seems like he legit believes that “capitalism when trade” so I don’t get where this idea “he’s secretly lying” comes from.
>>2546728You just say that because you have no faith in the
secret agenda.
You gotta trust that these entryist candidates that you didn't create, and in fact came from the very same liberal parties and surrounds himself with their liberal advisors and organizers, actually have a
secret agenda (of whatever it is that you believe). But you gotta back their liberalism and Zionism. Otherwise how will they embed themselves in power and enact the
secret agenda?
I mean, it's self evident. You just gotta have faith.
You don't get it, you think this is politics but you are wrong. You are not electing a
politician, you are electing a
'priest.
You have accepted that liberalism is GOD and it cannot be challenged on the basis of power, only favor. And so, you are electing a priest to climb the clergy(DNC) hierarchy and prostrate himself before GOD(liberalism) and maybe curry some favor in your stead. It would be dumb for you to compromise his chances by demanding he adopt, or keep, the positions that make them incompatible with the Democratic party.
>>2546795King Lear was Obamna all along
>>2546793
Reminder that felixs is an acp fan, a party that tails the far right on social issues
>>2546795>muh political opponentsI wish that fucktwat one day receives what he deserves for fucking over the lives of Julian Assange, Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning.
>>2546810I dislike the guy but do you got a source on that. Seems to contradict his whole “America must be destroyed” shit if he upholds the party that praises “MAGA communism”
>>2546810Is he actually? I'm pretty sure he is a WWP schizoid
>>2546810I've seen felix post for years, and I've made fun of him for years, and nothing I've ever seen him say indicates he supports ACP. You're just rumor mongering
>>2546813Look even his "arch nemesis" is defending him on this matter lol
>>2546817It’s an entirely one sided “arch nemesis” thing I assure you. Besides I believe Felix lies about my positions all the time and so when faced with lies the best thing you can do is arm yourself with the truth, not more lies.
new thread oldfriends
>>2546818>>2546817I've seen him do it, he always shits on other parties g saying that tinkle met with the houthies
>>2546822you're confusing the real iron felix with magacom schizo
>>2546813I don't understand the logic either but I've seen him defend the ACP many times
>>2546824This is like a fucking zoo for retards isn't it
>>2546822the real iron felix:
"america must be destroyed"
"read joe slovo"
"emulate spear of the nation"
magacom schizo:
"wrong. you deny proletarian line."
"hinkle met with houthis. you are liberal."
calls ACP "the communist party"
>>2546826>This is like a fucking zoo for retards isn't itThe Technical term we use is 'Containment Thread'.
>>2546826as is usually the case with imageboards lol
>>2546825I've only seen him say that those
federal agents people are to the left of CPUSA Anon, I always interpreted that as a vulgar criticism of CPUSA Anon
>>2546831reminder that felix jizzed on putin in /ukr/ back when he still posted there
>>2546833yes, that is the only positive thing I've seen Felix say about ACP, is that they are to the left of CPUSAnon, but that wasn't meant as a compliment to ACP, but as an insult to CPUSAnon lol
>>2546828>>2546836I possibly might be confusing these two,i issue self criticism and promise to be better,
>>2546732The people who own what they can despite the situation are fine.
>>2546799When I say secretly lying I mean that even if “capitalism is le trade” were to be believed this still does not explain where capitalism came from and thus explains nothing, hence it is a lie even if one the individual is not aware of, it is a lie in that the answer leads only to itself and is thus no answer at all, why? Simple, we know we came from tree dwelling apes who do not trade, ergo nothing has been revealed or explained, the answer is simply, it is what it is.
As always, in your quest to express your sympathies with chauvinism and anti-intellectual idiocy, you manage to be the lowest of us, CPUSAnon
>>2546632
Poor Puppy.
It was hard to see my dog (A Soft Coated Wheaten Terrier) suffer from pancreatic cancer when he was about 14 or 15 years old. I buried him in the backyard.
Atheist are against this, religion is inherently immoral and proves it’s hypocrisy and immorality everyday. They could be building functional infrastructure but they’re building some stupid bullshit that only represents a fraction of the money this cult grifted for this project. It’s just the corrupt deal the priest make with the bourgeoisie everyday and anywhere in this world.
>>2546402Russia barely has the means to even get back to the former WP lines. How in the world is Russia going to conquer West Europe. What is more likely is that the American fall leads to a domino in Western Europe
>>2546833>>2546861Iron Felix represents leftypol ID you see. The libidinal urge and need to bring justice to a clearly unjust world immediately and violently. CPUSanon represents our ego, perception management and empathy. It’s all psychological you see.
>>2546676I said that the POINT OF THIS was to get people to follow you and buying the loyalty of the masses by providing for them when the others wouldn't. How are you gonna be seizeing power when you dont have shit to offer anyone?
this is one of the most terminally retarded boards i've honestly ever seen and most of you should neck yourselves, including the people screaming about how this board is reactionaries.
I hate you all.
>>2546656YOU NEED TO HAND OUT PROPAGANDA ALONG WITH THE FOOD
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