"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.
news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
Police ‘forced to disclose ethnicity of suspects to counter far-right speculation’
Guidance to combat misinformation puts pressure on police to release details, says former senior Met officer
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https://bsky.app/profile/gameworkers.co.uk/post/3m4jbekuhrc2m Asking here because it's where I first learned about the podcast.
I've been listening to the free episodes of Trash Future for over a year now. I find it enjoyable background noise but not often laugh out loud funny, and some references go over my head (with 800+ unlistened episodes I suppose that is to be expected).
They release a Patreon episode weekly, including from a series called Britainology which I always read good things about but haven't actually listened.
Are the Patreon/Britainology episodes a big step up in quality from the free episodes? Or if I'm lukewarm on the free ones would the paid episodes not appeal?
>Your Party is suing itself, more at 11
Isn't there conference this month? Hopefully will make their policies clear so that they can be taken somewhat seriously again
Depressing how the yank thread fills up daily and we go days without a thread
>>2547161The Brit thread has definitely become more inactive over the last year or two, with some of the more active posters seemingly left for good, but might also be partially due to Britain having such a smaller population than USA
>>2547164
Then why do you find it depressing? You want the UK to have an even bigger population?
Your Party is such a shitshow that it might actually be plumbing new depths for the British "left". It's one thing to fail at building something from nothing, but Your Party has almost everything on easy mode: It has several MPs, it has an incredibly well known public figurehead, it has people with experience in a real party, it has a motivated activist base who want to believe in it. About the only difficulty it faces is that the Greens occupy a lot of the same policy space - but it's in with the advantage because 2017 era Labour members are going to sympathize more with the 2017 era Labour leader than with some guy they learned about a few months ago.
This really, really shouldn't have been a difficult task and yet they've somehow contrived to fuck it up. You really have to wonder if the entire Corbyn leadership of the Labour party was just a fluke: the Labour right were so incompetent and fucked up so badly that they let a team of slightly-less blithering idiots take over the party and took half a decade to dislodge them despite the fact none of them could organize a pissup in a brewery.
>>2547127i was watching the news and some cunts got stabbed. the FIRST THING the police were on about in the press conference was their ethnicity/colour, as if to say 'yes, they were not white'.
This is such a bad look, i don't think this country is going anywhere good re 'race' relations. :(
i asked deepseek how much of the UK ecenomy was unproductive, rent seeking, indirect state subsidies to zombi firms.
>A more realistic, albeit polemical, estimate is that 30-50% of the entire UK GDP is now based on state-backed or state-enabled rent-seeking and unproductive activity.
30-50% realistic?
>>2547127being stupid and being factually incorrect are different things, as discussed in the last thread. politics is not about describing reality, but about class interest.
>entire Corbyn leadership of the Labour party was just a fluke
It was. Objectively it was a fluke.
>>2547258as a former rebellious teen, i have absolutely no patience with the weepy woman grassing up her son
>>2547264if i went mad and turned into a raving fascist i would only hope my mum grasses me up to Prevent.
they wouldn't do anything because not brown and muslim, but in prinsible >>2547301well, youre clearly a slave who has no dignity, then.
you never betray your family. thats bonkers.
why not kick him out without the bloody theatrics?
>>2547264Apparently they are both Thatcherites too which makes it even funnier.
>>2547513So two rightoids have even more rightoid son makes sense. He should've just sucked up to them to keep the treats flowing
>>2547513no wonder the dad called him a "parasite" 🤣
>>2550190
how many times have random anons told you to fuck off with this shit?
Go back, /pol/ack. Or at least stay in your local containment thread at /ISG/.
>>2549422
>le /r/greenandpleasant!!!
Your hyper-obsession isn't driving anything. grow up autist.
>>2549422
how does the left improve the perception of its foreign policy stance
>>2549422
What do you suggest the left does instead?
You write all of this pointing out what is being done 'wrong' but offer nothing in terms of an alternative.
If Green party policies are "truly batshit to the electorate" you're in for a hard awakening for how the public will respond to a left wing 'revolution' outside of electoral politics.
I don't think Your Party / Greens etc are expecting to win the next election; seems more like building a movement for the subsequent election. And if Reform can be stopped from getting a majority this time, even better.
>>2550208>random anonsits just you.
>>2550271>I think brit politics is more exciting than american, trump will no doubt end up a lame duck next year when democrackas win the midterms.is that true? means the venezuelan invasion is probably going to be before the end of the year?
>>2550208If you were interested in revolution wouldn't you want to learn as much about it regardless of the source? Even rightoids can be sources of wisdom see
>>2550264 >>2550625cockshott called althusser a Madman because he strangulated his wife.
>>2550629but both agree that dialectics are cringe.
if the anon who had the theory about how conservatives like to argue about the definitions of words while leftists are really concerned with social context is still here, can you restate that theory again? i think about it every so often.
FUCK OFF with this rightist Neema Parvini
>>2551556sensible centre-leftist*
>>2551545my theory is that rightists are nominalists, or concerned with denotatum, whilst the left is generally concerned with connotation. thus, when a rightist implies bias by coding (i.e "dog whistles") they are free to play dumb by asserting that nothing they said in itself was "racist" for example, thus they will persist upon a false neutrality as regarding semiosis, even claiming that slurs in themselves are neutral (i once heard for example that "uyghur" had zero racial content to it because its etymology supposedly rests in the term "uyghardly" rather than "negro"). what they all conclude is that there is no such thing as bigotry, but only leftist neurosis. we saw this many moons ago where a nazi in this thread reduced everything down to denying the reality of racism (a right-wing provocateur, jesse lee peterson, also does this, where they claim that "racism" does not exist). thus, someone like curtis yarvin claims that "racism" is not a belief, but is a lack of belief. everyone is supposedly "racist", but "racism" only has a reality where it is signified. this of course is the same as saying that you cant rape someone if the victim is unconscious. this clumsy machiavellian idiocy is part of having low social intelligence, since you might be the type of guy to make insensitive jokes and then get angry at the audience. we see this "unfunny" and "uncool" posturing with older men who like to complain about "woke" and so on. what is "cool" (fashion/status) has a limited shelf-life, and so not "getting it" shows one's failure to adjust. the right above all else are uncool, which is also part of their desparation to be included (i.e. PJW claimimg that "conservatism is the new punk rock") to universal cringe.
higher social intelligence means "getting it" by some margin, and so it also means conformity, with fashion being downstream from elite opinions and apparel. this is why leftist social awareness adapts to code and custom more readily (with the vast majority of comedians being left-wing for example). todd mcgowan has given an excellent reading of left versus right comedy before (vidrel). an issue with this leftist "oversocialisation" (e.g. ted kaczynski) is that it tends to conform itself into censorship, directly and indirectly, since the overcoding of awareness targets digression. this is why leftist spaces are sectarian, since vying for power means splitting the opposition for higher status. on direct and indirect semiotics, we also see that the left appears punitive against thought crimes and lenient on physical crimes, while its opposite for the right. this would operate in terms of blasphemy and mortal sins.
>>2551724WHAT THE FUCKAA cuck is a communist now? I remember when he had his ass blown out by that Kermit sounding motherfucker over the LTV ~10 years ago. Incredible.
>>2551771he's been watching and reading cockshott,
and recently vindicated the LTV here:
>>2550291he said that he wants to talk with him.
>>2551812
enjoy your eternal football hooliganism
>>2551805Incredible, incredible. I remember he said he knew Marx well and had written at length about him, despite not knowing anything in that debate with the Kermit sounding motherfucker. I guess he finally read a book not written by Anne Applebaum.
>>2551857All these people remember is that it was a golden age for car salesmen so it was obviously great.
>>2551837I can already see the sorts throthing at the mouth to occupy Birmingham.
>>2552121crazy to me to want to spectacularise ripping flags down, but fair enough, i guess.
>>2552289They are using it as a mechanism to generate support (ngl anti-flagging is good in principle but hardly a strong basis for building a socialist movement off of). What i see with them is your usual "Anti-Reform, Anti-Capitalist, pro-Palestine" stuff with a vague IRA sheen from the use of kneecap, ballies & bererts, and the phoenix that looks very Provo, yet without any explicit Irishness. They seem to be active in provincial towns (especially in the North East) but also they dont seem to be particularly ideological. Certainly aren't Leninists or Anarchists. I don't know kinda feels like Irish Republicanism but instead of Irish Culture its rootless zoomer philonationalism. You know the sort; who are anti-british and anti-english, yet love when "the right sorts" do nationalism (Irish, Palestinians, Latin Americans).
I guess I just don't see how there is a social base for this beyond those who are already outcasts yk? Building an ANTIFA movement that is already the social outcasts is not a path to success.
>>2552121>>2552368Activism is ultimately pointless, the only time action matters is when it is revolutionary.
That said this is still based and makes me feel good. I hope they keep it up.
>>2552121why don't they burn them? Would be more symbolic in my opinion.
>>2552368Dosen't this just happen every few years?
Like some lads will try to do antifa themed hooligan agitprop, or go for a german street-maoist aesthetic, or this.
never seems to go anywhere.
>>2552468The third webm
is them burning them.
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