>>2558090>Was it so good? yes.
not dependent on Japan is also good.
I have a feeling something really bad is gonna happen soon. I rarely have this feeling, but everytime it ends up being true.
>>2558226easy prediction, theres always something really bad happening somewhere
>>2557855>$50.1 billionthats total lend lease rather than soviet one, which was only 10 billions
So when do the westerners start acting like they never supported Ukraine?
>>2558396funny how liberal understanding of every single conflict is equating it to ww2, likely because it fit with their "good vs evil" simplistic worldview despite literally everything about it and the world being completely different
>>2558342so hecking true bro, we gotta support the less bad bourgeois power, rather than working on building a communist movement instead
>>2558402They will say the goal was never 1991 borders or beach party in crimea, and it was just 'rhetoric' at the time. they say that the real victory was that finland and sweden joined nato and heroic ukraine managed to degrade Russian capabilities, so that they prevented Putin from his invasion plans of Western Europe.
they say the real fault was that the american and european leaders were too indecisive and they should have sent F16s back in 2022 and then they would have been a game-changer. Then maybe they'll throw a few ukrainian cronies under the bus for being too corrupt.
>>2558396We actually went through this. Nazi Germany devastated liberal countries and set in motion the collapse of European empires, and moreover, de facto gave half of Europe to the Soviet Union when it fell.
Actual Communists were de facto supporting Nazi Germany when the USSR and Nazi Germany partitioned Poland with a joint invasion.
Communists don't have as deep a phobia of Nazism as you do; because from our point of view, you're both just forms of capitalism and equally evil. Nazism was brutal during its 12 year reign, but the British Empire comparably so during its centuries long life, and the American Empire did a good job at trying to top the Brits in its century of triumph.
Nazism, Americanism, Britishism, what's the difference?
That said. The government shutdown is over. Welcome back, NAFOids. Wanna go make up some ridiculous nonsense for your State Department masters some more? We're ready to debunk.
>>2558449Where's your communist movement, westoid?
>Im building itHaha
>>2558746No. Read Stalin's speech just before the war. Germany and Italy and Japan were agressive imperialists, and British Empire, France and USA were status quo imperialists - they've divided the world already and didn't want it re-divided, while Axis wanted thier "place under the sun"
Here's one thing many people don't understand about US/Western imperialism. It's actually voluntarily accepted by the vast majority of the world.
There's absolutely nothing stopping 90% of the Global population and 60% of global GDP that's non Western from immediately rejecting the US and West. But they CHOOSE not to do so because they WANT the public goods US/West provides like security guarantees, smooth global financial system, mostly piracy free international waters, nuclear non proliferation efforts etc.
No other country actually wants to provide these public goods. Not even China, and China is open about this. China actively benefits from this system while simultaneously not providing any public goods, and abusing mercantilist policies.
Similarly Russia/Iran/Venezuela don't ACTUALLY want a true multipolar world. Because such a world would result in the breakdown of the relatively smoothly operating global capitalist system. The role of these countries is to act as a counterbalance to other countries in the region in order to prevent any country from achieving local hegemony in their region.
So all the "anti-imperialism" is Kabuki theatre nonsense. Nobody actually wants real multipolarity. Nobody wants to really start offering the public goods that the US offers. Nobody wants the existing system to collapse.
At best, they will make limited moves to secure some level of local hegemony.
And of course, communism is not even remotely in the agenda of any country on the planet.
>>2558090Uh, military surplus?
>>2558753 (me)
In other words, the """anti-imperialist""" countries exist to PREVENT multipolarity. That's their actual role in the global capitalist system.
>>2558753Because US has fleet and police international waters so that trade can happen uninterrupted?
>>2558753Are you saying multipolarity is a prerequisite for global uninterrupted stable trading?
>>2558090Remember Zhukov's quote about how storming heavily mined positions took the same amount of casualties as flanking and sieging properly? When average battlefield life of a vehicle is 5 minutes (it was 10-15 minutes in 1970) armoring makes no difference. You are better off using strategic maneuver for defence (i.e. dodging the fight altogether) and focus on damage (artillery, bombs and drones) rather than on protection that barely changes anything.
>>2558753>voluntarily accepted by the vast majority of the worldEven russia and china? What about north korea?
>>2558753>There's absolutely nothing stopping 90% of the Global population and 60% of global GDP that's non Western from immediately rejecting the US and West. But they CHOOSE not to do so because they WANT the public goods US/West provides like security guarantees, smooth global financial system, mostly piracy free international waters, nuclear non proliferation efforts etc.
Protection racket. "If not for us, you would be enslaved by other bandits!"
>>2558759Because there was not as much fire coverage on mine fields compared to other places?
>>2558762Nonsense. He was talking about fortified positions, including fire coverage and mines and everything, which gets reduced in popular quoting to stepping on mines, when in fact Zhukov was talking about artillery barrages with fire wall, demining tanks, etc etc. It actually means that storming positions with sufficient preparation is as painless as an encirclement
>>2558753>>2558756>empire is voluntarily accepted by the world.It's not. That's why all the wars and sanctions/tariffs.
>There's absolutely nothing stopping 90% of the Global population and 60% of global GDP that's non Western from immediately rejecting the US and West.Sure there is: threat of sanctions and war, fear of insufficient solidarity and betrayal, and bribery. If "90%" tries it, 30% will realize they could get rewarded by stabbing the other 60 in the back and peel off and undermine the whole thing. Where there are rebellious slaves there are always uncle toms to sell them out.
And it's not like a large part of the world didn't try do this this before. It was called the Cold War.
>No other country actually wants to provide these public goodsThose aren't goods, and the empire doesn't provide them. It selectively allows them to those that kneel and undermines and prevents them for those that don't. And even for those that kneel they can't rely on them either (see Europe right now).
>Russia/Iran/Venezuela don't ACTUALLY want a true multipolar world.Multipolar just means multiple power centers as opposed to one, not whatever idealistic fantasy you have floating around your head, and they do want it. There is no place in the unipolar global capitalist system, smoothly running or otherwise, for Russia, Iran or Venezuela. In that system they are under siege until they fall or kneel.
>the """anti-imperialist""" countries exist to PREVENT multipolarity. That's their actual role in the global capitalist system.Now this is just stupid. Tortured pretzel logic to deny the obvious. Without anti-imperialist resistance there's no need to prevent multipolarity. Unipolarity just continues unchallenged.
What prevents multipolarity is the empire, period. It's not hard.
>>2558772What is the point of such photo ops?
>>2558775
Very happy to be a revolutionary martyr, fascist. We have a very good track record against Nazis, when in strength, your leader commits suicide in Berlin. When weak, we get exterminated.
So far, though, our track record is very poor against liberal countries. Except liberal countries seem intent on becoming fascist shitholes, so we just survive and prepare for the eruption of violence.
>>2558780>There is no place in the unipolar global capitalist system, smoothly running or otherwise, for Russia, Iran or Venezuela. In that system they are under siege until they fall or kneel.it's a matter of demand: no one needs or wants a russian venesuelan or iranian centers for the reasons previously stated
On the gross international field, you're really not afraid of the Red Army raping its way to Berlin, are you? Or revolutionary armies giving almost as good as they take, and keep charging with replacements ready to recover losses and more so, while your wunderwaffe sit in depot for want of maintenance.
Communists really love fascists, because while they're expensive to fight, the fascists pick fights they can't win and get crushed. Liberals are harder to deal with, but the best part is, liberals all become fascists in the end.
>>2558746>That said. The government shutdown is over. Welcome back, NAFOids. We're not paid. We do it for free because we desire to see a liberated democratic world. We will never disappear. We cannot be stopped.
>>2558804"liberated democratic world" is when all your leaders have ~20% approval ratings and rig elections whenever someone not approved by those same leaders might win (Moldova, Romania).
>>2558753>voluntary oppression Liberalism lul
>>2558781I dunno but they tend to surface whenever there's a scare about mass desertion by Ukrainian soldiers.
>>2558782>So far, though, our track record is very poor against liberal countriesNuclear weapons protect them from invasion.
>>2557875I've said before that I'm so sick of seeing Zelensky's face everywhere I look online that I'm going to side with whoever stops his face appearing. I was hoping that would be Russia, but sorry, gang, but if the West is throwing him under the bus, I'm becoming a natoid.
Please Putin dont do another cucked road of life, anarchists don't deserve it
"Anarchist cursing tankies, and campists before getting nuked" compilations must flow
>>2558920I absolutely know that feel
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Who bake?
>>2558753>lemme tell you about imperialism<CHOYNAH….rent fucking free
Here after Russian police arrested people for putting flowers in a October revolution statue lmao
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