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>>2557702Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2558770this implies people don't mix and people stay provincial forever. it also implies that le west is the only globalizing and modernizing force but we see now that the new globalizing and modernizing force is the east. Who is modernizing and bringing people together and doing cosmopolitanism changes with time and place. Sumer was the cradle of civilization precisely because it built up a huge (for the time) center of economic activity that attracted people from all over MENA, either as slaves or as merchants. So even at a relatively local scale, differences are being broken down and people are becoming part of something larger. If a general "human civilization" does not eventually emerge, and everything stays "localized" forever, then we are never getting off this rock. Which is fine I guess. It's not like the universe needs us.
tl;dr class struggle is the engine of history and people do not keep their local identities in the face of economic development. dugin appeals to eternal metaphysical civilizations that did not even exist in their current form until relatively recently.
>>2558790Is he supposed to be Chinese? China doesn't have universal Healthcare.
How do you guys cope with the fact that most suffering in your life and loved ones could’ve been avoided if capitalism didn’t exist? It breaks my heart when I see my parents’ unnecessary struggle throughout their life
>>2558805they are trying to silence thiel because he is a leftcom. sisters we must stop this
>>2558789the funniest thing is that the dnc probably thought they were supreme masterminds, like they deadass believed this would be the greatest psyop in political history. lmfao
>>2558805But Thiel is gay, isnt he? I don't think epstein trafficked boys. What could they have colluded over?
>>2558824>I don't think epstein trafficked boys.Thats where you are wrong kiddo.
>>2558842I skimmed just enough of that to see "Steve Urkel" and "Screech" being unironically cited as references, that's about all I need to know isn't it?
>>2558824There’s a famous photo of Epstein on the island with his arms around two little boys.
>>2558843Nah I read it and Vivek is right for once. American culture sucks, it puts way too much emphasis on retarded and useless sportsball. Legitimately 80% or more of Americans will be rendered obsolete by robots and AI, that’s how bad it is. Why do you think competition in all the hot areas of tech is just Chinese Americans vs Chinese Chinese?
>>2558829there's a tiny market for that, the only people who'd be into trafficking boys are either gay pedophiles or rich women, i can't imagine jeffrey epstein would do it
>>2558847i mean he's unironically right though? what a society believes in naturally trickles down into what it produces, and also is there even a better reference for what he's talking about?
>>2558850
>Nah I read it and Vivek is right for once. American culture sucks, it puts way too much emphasis on retarded and useless sportsball.Unlike Indian culture which focuses on highly important matters like curry and throwing acid on women's faces when they refuse to marry you.
>>2558854Or maybe TV sitcoms are mass-produced corporate sludge which is designed to give consumers exactly what ad executives and focus groups have determined to be generally-palatable for all the major demographics, i.e. the most homogenous, bland, empty garbage they can get away with selling. It's like McDonald's food. McDonald's isn't some evil mad scientist conspiracy to deliberately poison the world, it's just a soulless megacorporation that makes junk to sell to people who don't care about what they consume, it's garbage in garbage out.
>>2558850>Nah I read it and Vivek is right for once. American culture sucks,So I guess you are right. Vivek is right. But American culture is awesome. America is the greatest country to ever exist or will ever exist. We really do need to Make America Great Again, but the 80s TV clown can't do it.
>>2558842I don't think Vivek has any legs to stand on complaining about American culture when it comes to his own Indian culture, they still basically practice Slavery thanks to their BS caste system. Vivek sure is lucky he was in the Brahmin classes, and not one of those "untouchables" picking up cow shit from the road.
Besides, Hinduism is just as BS as any of the mutated Abrahamic religions that Americans practice anyway, so maybe they deserve each other.
>>2558798omg yaaas king slay!
>>2558850>American culture sucks so let's turn everyone in helicopter tiger parents and job obsessed (read: exploitation) robots by creating a mass brainwashing campaign! Definitely very smart to do and not at all a product of how capitalism must commodify every single experience and avenue of society to counteract TRPF!>>2558855>>2558861There are bad Indians just like there are bad Americans. There are good Indians just like there are good Americans. "Indian culture is bad", yes it has many problematic aspects just like every other culture on Earth but the question is why? Pointing fingers at a group of people (there are many Indian cultures just like there are many USA cultures, they're not a monolith any more than we are) instead of the broader base-superstructure relation that affects what people think and how they act in order to best facilitate their own exploitation is non-scientific, it's just moralization based on vibes and "white" savior BS. The only way we can overcome this is by tackling the problem at its root and destroying the systems that engender inequality in order to exploit the division of the people. Modi exploits Hindutva prejudices and fears so he can exploit them more easily. Other Indians want to break down these prejudices and fears to end exploitation. We should clearly oppose the former but not insult and alienate the latter by lumping everyone into one singular "evil" group (nor should we do the same here, or in "Europe", or "Africa", or wherever).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singhhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._M._S._Namboodiripadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._R._Ambedkar >>2558879Does it cross her mind that it's this attitude, which is pretty much hugely pro-rape of women, is probably strongly held by almost all fox news officers. Including Roger Ailes. And that's no coincidence?
>>2558858Nah bud Americans will dance themselves to extermination soon. American culture is the greatest only at propagating genocide and everyone who supports it are marching to their death. So America will make itself great again, by exterminating itself and all it's people as in it's very nature. Then the earth will be free of it's parastic and destructive presence for all time.
>>2558876>There are good Indians just like there are good Americans.Nope.
Being an "American" is just a signalling that you are pro-Native American genocide and that you uphold the legacy of the people and nation who premise themselves upon those actions. Any good American would discard such an association and repudiate anyone who follows it. The USA has no history without genocide, treachery, and theft. If you aren't in support of those ideals you aren't American.
>>2558891States and nations are not the same thing. Neither are the proletariat entirely to blame for the actions of their bourgeoisie. People are not their governments. Should we blame every individual German for what the Nazis did and demand they all abandon the title of "German"? No, because that's stupid. Should we blame Africans today who run around raping and killing people with albinism for magic rituals to cure AIDS and bring "good luck"? No, because those psychotic beliefs didn't just appear out of nowhere, they were deliberately implemented and reinforced by specific groups to maintain privilege (the power of witch doctors). Should every Tanzanian renounce their Tanzanian-ness because of this persecution? Obviously not. The same goes for every other group, because of propaganda that constantly reinforces the capitalist hegemony via base-superstructure interactions due to the fact that capitalism and democracy are incompatible.
>>2558868I don't think Trump's advisors have the balls to tell him anything. He threatens to fire them on live TV, for fuck's sake. All his retarded ramblings are 100% pure unadulterated Trump, with a dash of stroke
>>2558868"Trump should do the right thing and sacrifice himself for the cause" sounds like something a Russian would say but he will absolutely never do this.
I want to see a panel of experts with PhDs on CNN explicitly debunking the Epstein emails which implicate Trump, and I want it to be followed by a poll which shows an INCREASE in the public's perception that Trump is a pedo associated with Epstein, because he deserves to be taken down by made up slop of the exact same kind he loves spreading.
>>2558932Black army recruits converting to Nordic paganism so they don't have to shave and fuck up their skin.
>>2558932<purging the pagan nazis for bearsbased retard?
>>2558842Hilarious that he posted "of course the nerds who study harder achieve more in life" to an audience that is explicitly anti-intellectual.
>>2558851>the only people who'd be into trafficking boys are either gay pedophiles or rich women,<the man who famously trafficked children for profit would not do this, not even gayliterally the dumbest person on this website. lmao.
>>2558934I expect more spin as things unravel for the billionaire's club, but the bigger picture can't really be debunked. The emails will reveal Epstein was an international power broker at the highest levels. The dog that didn't bark is the one who knew everything at the time but played dumb in public.
>>2558950I'll believe it when I see it
>>2558933is the book worth reading for any reason?
>>2558950no clue how this stone-faced, zero-charisma cockroach somehow has a high approval rating fucking insanity.
>>2558842>more movies like Whiplashkek of course this retard took the worst possible message from that movie
>>2558879why don't we tar and feather people anymore
>>2558896> Should we blame every individual German for what the Nazis did and demand they all abandon the title of "German"? NTA, but they kind of did blame themselves for a while afterward. Germany has a whole weird guilt complex around it that’s been heavily documented. You can’t really say the same for the U.S. and it’s not really equivalent.
>>2558891imagine believing any of this garbage l m a o
>>2558861I tend to think there are odd parallels between how Hindus internalize capitalism and protestants now that you mention it. They both kind of view it as in line with some divine order of things.
>>2558984>america has 10 year plans for israel, but 0 year plants for America lol
>>2558969no. it's ghostwritten garbage that pretends to be Sun Tsu's Art of War meets Machiavelli's The Prince, but for bourgeois pedophiles, but isn't as profound as either.
>>2558972"not my tempo!"
bludgeons student to death trump was on the _ _ _
>>2559007is that a "comeback" like being a has-been and coming back into the limelight
or is it a "comeback" like roasting someone who just insulted you?
>>2559020
>i don't know
just say that next time
>>2558971because the party shills him
>>2558950N lol
I think the only reason this guy's popular is because he replaced Nancy Pelosi.
>>2558933put on the list:
>killing the epstein>pretend it was the other side>milk pizzagate crowd for vote. >>2558879>there's a difference between a 15 yo and a 5 yo.no under the eye of the law.
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>>2559047oh, of course, but how do you sell yourself as an outsider if you are not talking about
the other side? (outsider to what?) you can't.
as epstein wondered: if the fact that so many people are on anti-depressant, adhd, and other drugs, is what makes trump appealing and his flaws invisible.
no other way they can't see the con game.
>>2559049
don't be too sensitive. I bet Obama knew the shit around Trump, with the NSA and CIA spying on Americans all the time.
>>2559049
he's right though
>>2559052>oh, of course, but how do you sell yourself as an outsider if you are not talking about the other side? (outsider to what?) you can't.the american bourgeois-conditioned brain conceives of "inside" as "the government" and the "outside" as "the private sector" which is why someone like donald trump gets to call himself an outsider. because he comes from the private sector big business. for the american wannabe billionaire suburbanite bourgeois-conditioned brain, the crowning height of anti-establishment politics is not a dictatorship of the proletariat, but the deletion of the government, so that the country can be run "like a business." The government or the "inside" is just viewed as a middleman to be removed so that the "outside" can finally govern without government.
In reality, you cannot have private property without laws enforcing it, and the purpose of the bourgeois government is to harmonize the competing interests of the various bourgeoisie.
So when donald trump calls himself an outside, that is all that really is meant. and when he accuses "the other side" he just means the other wing of the bourgeois dictatorship. let them cannibalize themselves.
>>2559049
So trve, Berniesister. Israel has a right to defend itself from evil brown children
Revolution status?
Are the Epstein files up?
Is anything gonna come out of them?
>>2559089epstein said the fed is a weapon to be used in a sophisticated manner. he also said inflation is fake, a outdated 1950s concept.
>>2559089not all, yet. potus has a larger set of files.
>>2559089Only some of them. House vote in ~a week and then Senate where who knows what will happen, but if it passes there and then Trump’s desk where he will probably veto it look bad.
>>2559096Marx never considered the smol peepee
>>2559096I heard about it years ago
https://spartacus-educational.com/GERhitler.htm
>A close friend, Ernst Hanfstaengel, claims that Hitler was the victim of sexual bullying while in the army: "Old army comrades, who had seen him in the wash-house, had noted that his genital organs were almost freakishly underdeveloped, and he doubtless had some sense of shame about displaying himself. It seemed to me that this must all be part of the underlying complex in his physical relations, which was compensated for by the terrifying urge for domination expressed in the field of politics." He was nicknamed "monk" because of his lack of interest in women. When one of the soldiers asked him: "Haven't you ever loved a girl?" Hitler replied: "I've never had time for anything like that, and I'll never get round to it." (60) >>2559112It explains so much
>>2559115It's a good article overall imo
>Heiden rejected the idea that Hitler's anti-semitism had anything to do with the role that Jews played in capitalism: "It was in the world of workers, as he explicitly tells us, that Adolf Hitler encountered the Jews. The few bourgeois Jews. The few bourgeois Jews in the home city did not attract his attention… But he did notice the proletarian and sub-proletarian figures from the Vienna slums, and they repelled him; he felt them to be foreign - just as he felt the non-Jewish workers to be foreign. With amazing indifference he reports that he could not stand up against either of them in political debate; he admits that the workers knew more than he did, that the Jews were more adept at discussion. He goes on to relate how he looked into this uncanny labour movement more closely, and to his great amazement discovered large numbers of Jews at its head. The great light dawned on him; suddenly the 'Jewish question' became clear. If we subject his own account to psychological analysis, the result is rather surprising: the labour movement did not repel him because it was led by Jews; the Jews repelled him because they led the labour movement. For him this inference was logical. To lead this broken, degenerate mass, dehumanized by overwork, was a thankless task. No one would do it unless impelled by a secret, immensely alluring purpose; the young artist-prince simply did not believe in the morality of pity of which these Jewish leaders publicly spoke so much; there is no such thing, he knew people better - particularly he knew himself. The secret purpose could only be a selfish one - whether mere good living or world domination, remained for the moment a mystery. But one thing is certain: it was not Rothschild, the capitalist, but Karl Marx, the Socialist, who kindled Adolf Hitler's anti-Semitism." (49) >>2559096Material explanation?
>>2558969It’s an interesting look into Trump’s sociopathy and his style of business. I only saw excerpts of it, but the two that I remember were:
>Big story about him being a vindictive asshole because some lady didn’t do him “one tiny favor” and celebrating the fact he ruined her lifeI think the “lesson” was something like don’t let others take advantage of you? Really read like a celebration of sociopathy and vindictiveness.
>Always haggle over everythingOnly remember this from some cracked.com article back in the day where a dude actually tried to follow “Art of The Deal” rules but basically be a nuisance and constantly demand not to pay for shit.
>>2559096he was also an incel and autistic
>>2559121Well, yeah. Nazoids have no coherent ideology. Hitler was fine with the Jewish bourgeoisie despite being the poster child for antisemitism, but was absolutely disgusted by the Jewish working class. To him and all other nazoids, Marx was a Jew because Marx was ideologically opposed to Nazism/Capitalism.
>>2559126The first principle of leftypol is that if its vapid bourgeois idealism that makes America look good it’s bad, if its vapid bourgeois idealism that makes America look bad it’s good.
>>2558842Jingle bells,
Vivek smells,
JD fucked a couch 🎵
>>2559128Yes. Also Hitler supported Zionism (for opportunistic reasons, but still)
>>2559130except everyone's (correctly) shitting on vivek and that one anon just made up the "fact" that "leftypol" (who is that?) "agrees"
>>2559131that couch's name was Erika
and charlie kirk said "ouch" 🎵
>>2559133I mean one of the first responses is “Yeah but Vivek is right”
>>2558850 and one of the dudes pushing back on it gets met with
>>2558891Sure it’s silly to say it’s “all of leftypol” but let’s not pretend what Vivek is saying is out of line with at least a portion of this board.
I haven't been keeping up with stuff that much, what's the current cope status from MAGAtards today?
>>2559140Trump was undercover FBI to take down Epstein and had to emergency fuck a child to keep his cover intact
>>2559140They're pissed that Trump gave an interview where he came out in favor of H1-Bs
>>2559140trump was friends with epstein and it was a gandhian personal test of his willpower to resist all the coochi
>>2559121uhm, excuse me! jews are an ethnicity first and foremost amd a precious special one at that.
if somebody is an anti-zionist jew they are orthodox like naturai karta. if they are secular and still anti zionist they can't consider themselves a jew. otherwise they open the door to all race essentialist narratives about jews, either by nazis or zionists (which are the same)
>>2559147Did they have the balls to apologize for shilling Elon a few seasons ago
>>2559168Uglon should be arrested
>>2559160well that's the thing, isn't it? for both jews and nazis, marx is jewish, because for both jews and nazis, there is an ethnic dimension to jewish identity. but marx never saw himself as jewish despite jews trying to claim him as one of their own and nazis using his jewish ancestry to denounce him.
the very process of otherization shows that how a person or a people identities themselves is not always the most relevant thing politically, but how everyone else sees them becomes more relevant. If tomorrow everyone started accusing you if being something you're not, it wouldn't matter if you felt differently. Their opinion would overrule yours. Identity politics is infinitely fueled by the otherization of identity, and then the imposition of that identity onto people who may or may not even want it.
>>2559138Millennials and zoomers have become so consumer-brained that they’ve defaulted back onto Jack Thompson bullshit
>>2558886If she's a dark triad like them, which I suspect, she doesn't really care. Her grift is supporting pootus at all costs and the victims can't matter if it affects their business model.
We love our Hitlerite-Zionist pedo-bourgeoisie don’t we folKKKs, pedoKKKracy with AmeriKKKan charateriSStiKKKSS
>>2559170Didn't these retards justify genocide just a few months ago? So it's okay when their own politician slightly to the right of them dies, but not when it's the modern nazoid?
what about the twerking class
>>2559184Don’t hold your breath expecting internal consistency from liberals, their world is collapsing
>>2559197i got triggered by the fake arabic
FUCK THIS SHIT, IM GONNA INVEST IN CHEGG STOCKS. I WILL 10,000 DOLLAHS IN A FEW MONTHS
>>2559189Newsom is pretty unpopular even in California. Or I should say especially in California.
He'd probably lose California's Democratic primary to AOCIA. East coast progressives are extremely popular here.
>>2559200>gamblingmost unwise
>>2559203SILENCE UYGHA, I WILL BE RICH
>>2559197wow bernie and aoc really endorsed this message
>>2559210>those who are "lucky" enough to become wealthy through gambling enjoy a most unstable and short-lived form of wealth. Go ahead but do not say that nobody warned you when you lose.Marx endorsed investing in stocks. He did it himself too, but he wasn't good at it.
>>2559211i'm aware of the quote. he made 400 pounds sterling in 1864 which, adjusted for inflation, is about 40,000 pounds sterling today. That's pretty good. But he was still broke most of the time and needed to borrow money from Engels.
>>2559210> become wealthy through gambling enjoy a most unstable and short-lived form of wealth.SILENCE, I DONT TRUST YOUR LIES
*but seriously im not stupid. If I do make money, Im sending half of that to a high yield savings acount. I will survive on passive income from the interest
>>2559208here is my advice. if you are not good at researching before investing, but you have enough money to invest that you set aside each paycheck, then you would be better off putting that money into a high yield savings account (if you find yourself suddenly needing it) or putting it into a certificate of deposit (if you think you are capable of getting by without needing to withdraw it for several months at a time). A good CD will get you 3-4% interest annually these days. That doesn't sound like much, but it is pretty much guaranteed interest as long as you don't withdraw it, which you'll get penalized for. That's better than gambling on the stock market, and hoping for something insane like 100% ROI and instead losing money. We're in the biggest bubble in US stock market history. Nobody knows when it will finally crash, but it will. I woudl say short sell, but with short selling losses are potentially infinite if you fuck up.
>>2559215Im willing to do research. Plus I already have high yield saving accounts
>>2559206https://www.state.gov/releases/2025/11/designations-of-antifa-ost-and-three-other-violent-antifa-groups/one german group called Antifa Ost, two greek anarchist groups(armed proletarian justice and revolutionary class defence) that made IEDs apparently and the FAI/FRI. kinda suprised the FAI/FRI weren't alr up there. Bunch of shit at the end about US citizens getting hit with legal shit for "certain transactions and activities" with all these groups. Wonder if any domestic antifa groups would be targeted under this if they had any contact and communication with all these european antifa groups.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/markets/inside-the-market/article-a-history-of-the-stock-market-investments-made-by-karl-marx-and/>One biographer claims Marx decided to try his hand at financial speculation after hearing of the killing that German socialist Ferdinand Lassalle was making on the stock market. No wonder he hated that Jewish nigger.
>During retirement, Engel’s portfolio produced an income sufficient to cover his living costs, as well as provide Marx with an annual subsidy of £380. This effectively gave both men membership in the rentier class, which many communists despise.
>Engels had a rationale for why it was okay to be a rentier. It went like this: Trading stocks “simply adjusts the distribution of the surplus value.” It doesn’t expropriate it from the workers.But the stock holders are the literal capitalists. They're the literal owners of the company. They're the ones who the surplus value is paid to, wtf? If share holders aren't the capitalist, the who are?
>>2559218Holy SHIT I NEED TO BE LIKE ENGLES
>>2559215That's if you have money.
If you don't have money, trading penny stocks is a simple way to make money. Sure you'll lose a lot of the time, but it's only gonna be like $20-30 if you know when to cut your losses. Better than being a wagie.
Of course most brokers won't let you daytrade with such a small volume so you might have issues but whatever.
>>2559218Call me crazy but I don’t think there was likely as much of a culture of immediately disqualifying moral hypocrisy in Marx and Engels’ day
>>2559222>>Of course most brokers won't let you daytrade with such a small volume so you might have issues but whatever.You can't daytrade by law unless you have $20k in your account. You are limited to 3 day trades per day or something like that.
>>2559222>>2559227use vanguard. Im able to buy lots of cheggstocks even though I dont have that much money. Its legal
>>2559219What we really need is an Engles that can pay thousand Marxist influencers to counter-act capitalist propaganda.
Or we could just shitpost about stocks that we'll never trade, that's fine too
>>2559228>use vanguard. Im able to buy lots of cheggstocks even though I dont have that much money. Its legalI said daytrade. A day trade is when you buy a stock and sell it within the same day. You can use Think Or Swim or any of the other brokers with any amount of money or size of trades, and they all have no fees either for stuff that is listed on American exchanges.
>>2559218>wow marx and engels were bourgeois. communism is le hypocrtiical!!!so true better let the bourgeoisie control everything forever, very enlightening
>>2559231We have a few of those, but no one trusts you as a Marxist influencer dependent on bourgeois treats these days. Marx was lucky no one questioned his relationship with Engels at the time.
Also, I need to find an Engels but she has to be a cute girl.
>>2559222if you don't have money you shouldn't gamble lol
>>2559234Ok here is the official rule
https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/introduction-to-pattern-day-trader-rules
>If you make four or more day trades over the course of any five business days, and those trades account for more than 6% of your account activity over that time period, your margin account will be flagged as a pattern day trader account.
>If this happens, even inadvertently, you'll be required to maintain a minimum equity of $25,000 in the flagged account—on a permanent basis. While flagged, if your account starts the day below this minimum equity (based on the prior day's close), and you then execute a day trade, you'll be limited to liquidating trades only until the situation is addressed.
>The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) created the pattern day trader designation after the tech bubble popped back in the early 2000s, with the goal of holding active traders to higher standards than those who trade less frequently.
>If you don't want to hold $25,000 equity in your account at all times, pay close attention to your trades to make sure you don't end up with a flagged account. That said, Schwab may allow a one-time exception to clients who may have been flagged as day traders, as long as they commit to not doing so again. >>2559234>>2559240oh im stupid. Fair enough
>>2559239In 2025 that's pretty terrible advice because class mobility doesn't exist in America without gambling. If you want a comfortable life and don't have money, gambling is basically the only option.
Of course there are ways to mitigate risk or "gamble" in other things like dealing drugs or running scams, it's all high risk in the end, but no one ever made an honest fortune tbqh.
>>2559231that would be china but they haven't supported a communist since time immemorial
>>2559242>In 2025 that's pretty terrible advice because class mobility doesn't exist in America without gambling.gambling is terrible advice, period. the house always wins. but if you win on the off chance you'll encourage others to do the same thing you did as if it's a good strategy rather than just lucking out.
>>2559238>but no one trusts you as a Marxist influencer dependent on bourgeois treats these daysthey gotta be ignored, other radicals aren't the target audience of a communist influencer, most of the effort should be devoted to raising the workers to the level of revolutionaries
>>2559251have you actually tried this "strategy" or are you just talking out of your ass?
>>2559254this is an imageboard of course i'm talking out of my ass
>>2559252if you actually want a marxist sugar daddy try contacting this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation#Neville_Singham >>2559251this sounds like less money than you would make just working a wagie job for the same amount of time … not to mention it's still a gamble and far from guaranteed to work
>>2559259I've noticed a ton of bots and Indians doing the same thing over the years so clearly there's some profit to it. Not sure how they make it work.
>>2559260yeah but a few bucks USD go a lot further in India than they do in the USA, so there is a stronger incentive there. The purchasing power of US currency is higher. 1 dollar purchases a much smaller basket of goods. This is why there is such a strong incentive for 3rd worlders to scam 1st wordlers. that incentive would disappear almost completely if US currency hegemony died, or if US currency hyperinflated to such an extent that it had less purchasing power than, say, Indian currency.
>>2559267>1 dollar purchases a much smaller basket of goods.*purchases a much smaller basket of goods in America than in India
>>2559267What if I just hire 10 Indians and pay them $1/day to run this scam for me while I do nothing.
Now I am the Capitalist.
>>2559213He didnt borrow from Engels, he basically begged him for money.
Also, wine, like dozens of times, which is hilarious. One letter I remember
>Engels, comrade, my family is sick, plz send us moneys and good wine for my children thxAnd Engels provides.
I think this is cool, btw
>>2559223P much. Also, i dont consider them hypocrites
>>2559272in the 00s this happened a lot. you had cases of software devs in the USA making 100K/yr outhiring to india in secret, getting emailed source code at the end of each day, copypasting that into the repo, and committing. By the 10s bosses started to notice and fired their devs and replaced them with Indians, which they were also going to do anyway. Capital always looks for the cheapest source of labor, and that is inevitably in some ex-colony or comprador regime. If there isn't a cheaper source of labor they'll use war to create one.
>>2559218Engels was a good class traitor. that is not new.
Hot take
the Americas isn’t the West
The ruling class is just aligned and an extension of the European ruling class.
>>2559282what about japan and sk?
>>2559282dumb take. the US took over the imperial trade system from the brits after WWII, as you can read in this book, and invaded Europe with nato military bases.
the US isn't an extension, it's the top dog, and Europe it's the extension of the US.
>>2559170(cheerful bong sounds, cackling)
Epstein Warned Trump Was ‘Evil Beyond Belief’ and ‘Mad’ After Mental Health Scrutinyhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-warned-donald-trump-was-evil-beyond-belief-and-mad-after-mental-health-scrutiny/
>Jeffrey Epstein branded Donald Trump “evil beyond belief” and “mad” in an email sent hours after he was forwarded a Daily Beast piece questioning the president’s mental stability.
>The message, released this week by the House Oversight Committee, captures the disgraced pedophile financier—who died in jail in 2019 aged 66—reacting to a Beast opinion article “How Close Is Donald Trump to a Psychiatric Breakdown?”
>The op-ed drew on mental health experts who said Trump displayed signs of mania and posed an “imminent danger” to the public as legal and political pressure mounted around him. It was published the same weekend as porn star Stormy Daniels’ blockbuster 60 Minutes interview, which detailed her alleged affair with Trump and a hush-money deal at the center of his criminal case.
>In the March 24, 2018, exchange with then–New York Times reporter Landon Thomas Jr. that included a link to the piece, Thomas told Epstein that Trump, now 79, was “scaring the s–t” out of him and warned the president “could well tank [the] global economy,” urging Epstein to try to speak to him.
>Hours later, Epstein replied: “he feels alone. and is nuts !!! , I told everyone from day one. evil beyond belief. mad, and most thought i was speaking metaphorically. its obvious he could crack.”
>He added, “stormy daniels. ? lies after lies after lies.” It is not clear if Epstein was suggesting Trump, or Daniels, was being misleading in their account of what went on between the pair.
>The reference to Daniels came more than six years before the 2024 New York criminal case which saw Trump convicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records over a 2016 campaign hush-money payment to the actress, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford. Trump is appealing the verdict.
>The March 23, 2018, Beast article by Gail Sheehy and Rosemary Sword reported that prominent psychiatrists had broken with the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater rule” to warn that Trump appeared dangerously unstable, citing concerns he was in a manic state as the Mueller investigation closed in and ahead of Daniels’ upcoming interview.
>The “evil beyond belief” email is part of a 20,000-page trove from Epstein’s estate that House Democrats say exposes how closely he tracked Trump’s presidency—and how alarmed he claimed to be.
>In other messages, Epstein described Trump as a “maniac” showing signs of “early dementia,” and warned former Obama White House lawyer Kathryn Ruemmler that treating Trump like a mafia boss underestimated the “great dangerous power” of a sitting commander in chief.
>Epstein also told Emirati businessman Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem in 2018 that “Donald is close to no one… He tells each one something different,” echoing comments he made about Trump on tapes obtained and published by the Daily Beast last year.Damn, even Epstein thought Trump was evil.
>>2559292t. nothing-understander
>>2559288so not only did this NYT reporter decline to report on how Epstein said all this shit the year before he died in Trump's custody, he also
>declined to report that Epstein had photos of Trump together with "young women in bikinis" in his house>declined to report Epstein's comment about Trump running into a glass door because he saw young women in the pool outside >>2559297I'm just chuckling at the idea of Trump doing the Sickos.jpg meme with his tongue hanging out going AWOOOOOGA like a cartoon character
>>2559285using cardinal directions to describe geopolitical alignment was a mistake. People say "North" or "West" when they mean "the imperial core." They use "South" and "East" when they mean "Periphery." This is the legacy of 1492.
>>2559285japan and occupied korea are part of the 'garden' to use joseph borrel's term.
>>2559297I insist, trump killed epstein.
>>2559303"North/South" too geographic
"Garden/Jungle" too poetic
"Core/Periphery" gets to the heart of it. Where capital is centered is the core, where capital is not centered is the periphery. The core and periphery can move, but it's ultimately about capital's center(s) of gravity, and point(s) of emanation.
We can see this geographically based on legacy systems. Longitude is centered on Greenwich, London, UK, largely because of British global dominance in the 19th century. By the 1884 International Meridian Conference, Britain controlled the world’s major shipping routes and produced most nautical charts, all already using Greenwich as the reference. Other nations agreed to adopt it to standardize navigation and timekeeping, reflecting Britain’s geopolitical and maritime power at the time. London is no longer capital's center of gravity, but we still mark them as the default time zone and the zero marker for longitude.
>>2559299rich people have servants who keep their glass doors so clean that birds regularly fly into them. but trump flew into jeff's door because he saw some birds outside
>>25593081st world and 3rd world works well.
>>2559297That's the free press for ya!
>>2559277I think everyone has hypocritical points at times and I try not to resent them for it.
>>2559311they're OK but I think they imply a rank system and also a lack of granularity. People almost never mention the "2nd" world (Russia/China) nor the countries/regions which may be considered the 1.5 or the 2.5 or the 3.25 and so on. If Kazakhstan is 3rd world, then what are the Sentinelese?
Core/periphery allows for more granularity. if you live in a deindustrialized abandoned rural town in the USA, you are near the core of capital concentration, but you are in a peripheral pocket within the imperial core. This allows for nuance and regional issues to be noticed.
>>2559311i think it might be a little confusing because it came out of the cold war subdivisions we were taught in school
1st world = the capitalist countries. UK, US, France, West Germany
2nd world = communist block. USSR, PRC, DDR,
3rd world = non-aligned nations. indonesia, india, yugoslavia.
>>2559317Damn, I'm genuinely surprised to see some nuance on peripheral pockets in the core here. Good on ya man.
Like there are parts of this country I've been to where things seem almost third world status. Like I don't want to make it sound like I'm exaggerating how "apocalyptic" it is but it really isn't good.
>>2559318I remember reading somewhere that a French guy and Mao Zedong both independently invented the 3 worlds system and Mao meant something different than the French guy did so the definitions end up getting used interchangeably, leading to even more confusion.
>>2559324When god made hell he modeled it on mississippi.
>>2559324Buddy lives in a rural town in Oregon, like we're talking maybe a couple hundred people rural. Anyways he's got at least two detailed stories of extra-judicial murders happening out there and kept as basically an open town secret.
Like if there were some actually committed Maoist Insurgents out here, well there are parts of this country that genuinely seem like they've got this impoverished peasantry that Mao utilized.
I don't think we see much organizing there because, well, if I'm totally honest those places seem genuinely unnerving. Especially when you have friends that know about the local murders. Like you look out and see nothing but miles of forest, or desert, or grassland, and you kind of realize someone can just shoot you and drive off no problem.
Funny enough that same friend and some mutual buddies of his (wildlands firefighters) actually went shooting out in the desert once only to have to dive for cover because people saw them and started shooting at them. Guy had a near death experience 'cause he genuinely felt a bullet penetrate their van and miss his head by a couple inches.
>>2559331>two detailed stories of extra-judicial murders happening out there and kept as basically an open town secret. whats the story?
>>2559331yeah people think america is still filled entirely with treatlerites but as a poor man myself I can tell you it's actually mostly just pain and suffering
>>2559331>Buddy lives in a rural town in Oregon, like we're talking maybe a couple hundred people rural. Anyways he's got at least two detailed stories of extra-judicial murders happening out there and kept as basically an open town secret. Yeah they didn't make that movie Deliverance based of nothing. It was well known back in the day there were rural places where people were known to shoot at or kill any hippies they saw.
>I don't think we see much organizing there because, well, if I'm totally honest those places seem genuinely unnerving. Of course you've all probably heard the famous case of the freedom riders who were killed.
I've been all over small town Texas, a little bit in New Mexico, AZ, and Oklahoma, and honestly the vibe in Texas small towns has been pretty chill. Even the cops have been nice when I've been stopped. Also they really seem like the most racially integrated places I've ever seen too. Maybe it just seems that way to me because I have some sub-conscious expectation of the opposite, but it seems they're diverse with Latinos, Blacks, and Whites, and it seems like everyone knows each other in town and they're all old friends. I've been stuck behind their slow asses a number of times when I needed the receipt at a gas station and I have to them listen to them for like 5 minutes discussing town gossip.
What will you do when the burguerreich tries to force you to enlist to venezuela anons ?
>>2559341Ok. And your conclusion drawn from these two facts is…? (Inb4 discourage Americans from improving their own lives because they deserve to suffer)
>>2559343tbf that's a recent development and a lot of people still think in 1990s terms for some reason. consciousness lags behind material conditions
also China's GDP, even adjusted by purchasing power parity, is still pretty far behind the USA. China has trouble even with its rapid development because that development is asymmetrical. Some regions are still very rural, and their country's topography is very mountainous in some places and hard to build in.
>>2559344the burgerreich would never re-instate the draft because that would actually lead to revolutionary conditions.
>>2559343saying china is "obviously" part of the imperial core of global capitalism is such a intellectually dubious thing to say. It lacks analysis entirely, and shows an OBVIOUS (to use your word) lack of real knowledge of the way China ACTUALLY operates through both their domestic and foreign policy
>>2559351GDP PPP is pointless. There are much better measures that show the true quality of life for people in china that account for actual material access as opposed to the bullshit metric of "GDP"
>>2559348You can still organize for revolution or whatever but stop misusing the term third world like Trump. Words have actual meaning. A factory worker in bangladesh still makes clothes fo $0.52 per hour for you guys.
>>2559355I know GDP PPP isn't good but it's way better than nominal GDP since it adjusts for purchasing power. Yes people in China, especially urban China, have way better access to healthcare, education, etc.
Also even Russia is capable of outproducing the USA industrially these days, due to deindustrialization.
>>2559357Your arguing semantics when we're arguing rhetoric about what to do. Sure, it's not entirely accurate, but buddy, life here can be REALLY fucking bad. Dollar per hour income isn't the only part of the story and you know that. Emotional and social isolation and suffering, etc.
The unbelievable levels in inequality in the USA INCREASES psychological suffering in the population, leading to greater suicide risk, social stress, lack of social support, which is, you know the whole thing about humans.
Apples to oranges and saying "the working class in america have nothing to complain about" is just fucking CALLOUS in the face of the realities we experience every day. It's heartless, and anti-social. Stop doing it. Please.
>>2559341>look at this war ravaged country that's still recovering from the civil war that spawned it and how much its worse than this poor state in Burgerstan. Don't you feel silly!kys
>>2559359>All of Latin America is 3rd worldNo it's not, Latin America has historically been 2nd word during the Cold War era, and their GDP per capita is multiple times higher than Africa still.
>>2559359not sure if Chile is third world when they extract more value per capita from the periphery than Russia does
>>2559365the average person in the USA is not a drug addict on skid row while the average person in Bangladesh is indeed working a very very low wage job. I think that difference is important to note. (Not the anon)
>>2559365Those are retarded drug addicts. A chunk of them would have died of diarrhea and malnutrition growing up in the third world.
>>2559371You're such a fucking piece of shit, man. Heartless fuck, how dare you call yourself a leftist.
>>2559368>No it's not, Latin America has historically been 2nd word during the Cold War era,Wrong.
>and their GDP per capita is multiple times higher than Africa still.Exactly my point. You here third world and to you it can only mean the most starvingest Sub-Saharan African country when the third world is the catch all for any country that wasn't firmly Team NATO and friends, or Team Communist.
>>2559369Russia is isolated by sanctions but also doesn't really need to have an extractive relationship with colonies because it has a very large land mass with a domestic supply of lots of natural resources that other countries would need to import. Russia also has land borders with 16 countries who can serve as middlemen to get around sanctions. I have also been told that Russia is the only country with a large stockpile of every element on the periodic table, and this gives it a geopolitical/economic advantage most countries do not have.
>>2559373another reason why arguing about the specifics of the term "third world" is retarded anyways because it's an antiquated vague term in the first place.
>>2559352>the burgerreich would never re-instate the draft because that would actually lead to revolutionary conditions.Uynghar, you are giving Trump and Porky to much credit that they will not go full retard.
>>2559376The Trump administration continues to bump into proverbial walls their blind asses couldn't see before they gained power. There are limits to what they can do, just purely politically and materially speaking. It's not a stretch to state that they can only harness so much power because of Real Limits to what is possible in reality.
>>2559376I welcome it. I hope they do it. I dare them to do it. Nixon ended the draft because burgers were fragging their officers in Vietnam. American imperialism is running on fumes and the compliance of the military is largely built on it being all-volunteer. As soon as you start press ganging people into that shit you have people on the inside who resent it deeply and will sabotage it.
>>2559377MICHAEL ROBERTS MENTIONED! He fucking rules man I love him so much
>>2559380Yeah homelessness and prisoners per capita are very large in the USA compared with other countries but it's still <10% of the population. We were comparing the conditions of the normal working class, not the people who have been declassed entirely. In America a non-imprisoned, non-homeless, non-addicted person is probably making a very crappy wage and living "paycheck to paychecck" but they probably aren't working in a sweatpshop for $0.52 an hour. idk how far that goes in Bangladesh in terms of purchasing power.
>>2559384i don't do any of those things. but the only person I know who uses uber is stuck using it because they don't have a car. they spend half their day's wages on uber.
>>2559372Ok I'm wrong, the worst parts of the USA is the same as Bangladesh, Sudan, and rural India. Yeah, and people don't hop the border into the US and work the worse jobs in America. And the worse conditions in America aren't actually better than their home country, not sure why they risked travelling so far and leaving everything behind.
>>2559388>We were comparing the conditions of the normal working class, not the people who have been declassed entirely.It's a very common experience and it's not reflected in the statistics because the way they gather they approximate the numbers of homeless. From my personal experience, it's very common for young people to end up homeless for a time. Many people end up homeless while they are still employed, so they aren't "declassed" they're still proles, but they're also homeless.
>>2559388Again even if your few data points are correct, they don't add up to a useful analysis or call to action. They also completely disregard Suffering in the near spiritual sense. You can have a poor society with much better social outcomes and sense of belonging and solidarity. In america, we don't have that. You're comparing apples to oranges. And the conclusion you're trying to point towards borders on reactionary.
>>2559380Poor people existing in the USA and the imperial core in general doesn't mean they aren't exploiters. Fiat currency is powered by trade imbalances resulting from an imperial architecture, the fact that in the USA and EU one gets paid in currency floated by imperial domination gives one a massive benefit over anyone in the 3rd world regardless of the level of poverty. People in the periphery on average live like homeless people in the imperial core, stop being a tard and trying to play the victim. Lumpenproles existing in the first world doesn't make them not exploiters.
>>2559395that's like saying the african slaves in the south were exploiters because they """"happened"""" to help the plantation owners produce crops. You're fucking braindead.
>>2559395>People in the periphery on average live like homeless people in the imperial core,That's just not true at all lmao. Have you ever even been to any countries?
>>2559395Reactionary Third Worldist faggot kill yourself
>>2559372>unironically calls himself a "leftist"<erm how heckin dare you?!?!?The Blueskyification of Leftypol continues
>>2559398>>2559401>>2559402Seethe imperialists, come up with actual arguements rather than imperialism apologia.
>>2559404>defends truly callous and anti-social rhetoric disguised as leftist thought for the sole purpose of degradation of an Other just because their Masters are richSure, that's not total piece of shit behavior disguised as progressive at all :)
>>2559398>that's like saying the african slaves in the south were exploiters because they """"happened"""" to help the plantation owners produce crops.The african slaves were apart of the architecture of Settler domination yes. If you asked the average Native American whether the african slave was a foreigner or not you wouldn't like the answer. But to you people the opinions of Native American's don't matter at all because you love to genocide them so I guess it's moot.
>>2559334>whats the story?Okay so without trying to name names.
The town has a native and white population (and one weirdly racist black family). The white population is a little resentful of the natives because they feel the natives have better healthcare while the natives also have a major alcohol epidemic which, according to the people who live there, works as a kind of powerful hallucinogen/just effects natives different. The advice my buddy was given was that when the sun is out you're fine, but as soon as the sun sets and some of the natives start drinking it doesn't matter if you were best friends with them while they were sober, they "practically become different people when they start drinking and you should just stay away if you can."
Anyways there was an issue some years back with a couple of native teens breaking into this old widow's house. Woman was in her 70s I think. They'd basically just kick down the door or force open the window and start partying in her living room downstairs all hours of the night. This came to a head when they lady tried confronting them about it and one or a group of her beat her within an inch of her life. This pissed off a lot of folks in town. So, while the woman was still recovering in the hospital, the teens kept partying in her house, trashing the place. One of the townsfolk waited late one night for them to show up again, then when they started thrashing the house he fired a hunting rifle or something at them, ended up killing one of the teens. Town was real quiet about that and everyone out there was armed (when we went camping there we later learned one of the dudes had Night Vision goggles and made it his mission to cull some of the local predator population, coyotes mostly I think).
Second story is also kind of fucked up, but given its one of those towns where if you call law enforcement you'd be lucky if they even showed up, one day they decide to elect a sheriff. Now, this guy makes a big deal about "trying to clean up the town", which would most likely just mean cracking down on hooliganism and rampant drug use. He deputizes this native guy and the two become practically brothers, he helped the native dude get sober and gave him at least a somewhat respectable job, so the native guy feels like he owes this dude a lot.
Well, the Sheriff kept pissing off some local gangs. And they'd tell him again and again "If you keep fucking around with us we're going to kill you" and he'd basically tell them to knock it off. Well, one day they ambush him. They beat the guy and handcuff him to his police cruiser, then they roll it onto a train track. Train comes, guy gets crushed along with the car. This pisses the deputy off and so he goes around the reservation trying to find out who did it. Well, allegedly the guy did and when he found the ring leader he might have (again, this is just a second or third-hand story so I might get the details wrong) taken the guy out into the middle of the woods, executed him, and buried him somewhere. Either way the dude resigned his position after that.
Sounded like something out of a fucked up noire story when he told me.
>>2559407You're such a piece of shit lmao
>>2559394>>2559391I'm not saying Americans don't have it bad or that they shouldn't organize to fight the bourgeoisie, I'm just saying you're not child soldiers or cobalt miners or sweatshop slaves. This is meant as an observation, not a goalpost. I don't desire for you to have your conditions lowered to that level, rather I desire everyone to have it better.
>>2559406>reddit spacing<communism is le progressive XDRetard alert! Retard alert!
>>2559406>Lets just be idealist guise! It totally will work this time!Stop being idealist, you will never get anywhere with this retarded belief system that somehow first world people aren't privileged and are actually the victims compared to people in the periphery.
>>2559411Ok cool. All that effort posting points that don't support your ulterior goal in the conversation. Maybe leave it out next time because it's extraneous information no one was denying in the first place? In fact a lot of subtext could have been and WAS assumed because you brought it up, because that's how conversations work. And yet in the end, you denied the most common subtextual implication of the act of bringing up those fact.
>>2559366That video is of Ghana, they're not recovering from civil war dummy.
>>2559413Felix PLEASE get meds dude
>>2559413this is such a callous, violent, and anti-social mode of thought that only hurts people and helps no one, not even the periphery. It's JUST anger with the desire to increase the suffering of an "enemy" because of your own impulsive and violent tendencies and need for hatred as opposed to actually helping anyone in a positive manner. Check yourself before you hurt someone.
>>2559419Felix is a tard aswell, im not him bud find some other spooky /leftypol/ poster to frame as stupid.
>>2559418didn't this zionist bitch delete her twitter? guess the grift was too good to leave behind
>>2559417you said south sudan in your post uygha
>>2559416your arguments border on sociopathic so yeah
>>2559422you should think about how you sound exactly like him and make reflect on that.
>>2559415>your ulterior goalyou assuming that i have an ulterior goal isn't fair. I could just as easily assume some ulterior motive on your part but I'm not going to do that. There are others in this conversation on both "sides" (reductive but you get my point) acting much more childishly than I am about this subject matter and you could easily go after them instead of me. I wasn't the anon who brought up sweatshop workers making $0.52 per hour in Bangladesh, I just pointed out that pointing to homeless addicts on skid row as a counterpoint doesn't make much sense since that is not reflective of anywhere close to the average American. the average American is not homeless. My "ulterior motive" is not to stay that they should be… do you understand? I'm saying if you guys don't engage in class struggle your conditions will continue to worsen until you actually are sweatshop slaves making $0.52/hour. Conditions getting worse does not automatically intensify class struggle. There are countries much poorer than America where class struggle is just as bad or worse. That is my only point. I am thinking strategically in terms of the international working class as a hole, not trying to institute a race to the bottom where Americans MVST have it worse for others to have it better. I don't think that's the case at all even if some do.
>>2559425are you guys still calling it the dept of war or defense?
>>2559421Just stop with the deflection, the more you try to avoid talking about responsibility the more you reveal your settler nature. People are responsible for their actions and the structure their presence helps maintain, if one cannot combat it they are either ignorant or weak. And no that doesn't mean to suicide bomb a government building there are many ways to help construct structures of resistance other than just idling as a homeless person whining about how much worse you have it than a sweatshop worker in guangzhou.
>>2559430my impression was that youth were never following ben shapiro. he was the sort of guy your boomer uncle loved because he was trying to reach out to the youth
>>2559426>your arguments border on sociopathic so yeahYea I agree arguing that third-world people are human tends to be seen as sociopathic by first-worlders fucked up how thats the case huh?
>>2559429You don't know what you're even talking about tho.
>>2559429I didn't mean "ulterior" with the negative connotation, I just meant the overall thesis one is implying during conversation and lacked a better word in the moment, so that's my bad.
The general topic ITT is almost always retarded thirdworldists discouraging americans from improving their own material conditions for the sake of other countries that don't give a fuck either way. And I feel like supporting those faggots is a problem considering they are a legitimate issue with regards to effect communist praxis writ large
>>2559420this is not the median american, sorry. once again, you have a very large country with very diverse conditions that differ locally. I am saying that pointing to some gangbager kid in Chicago's O-block, or pointing to a homeless drug addict on skid row and going "see, we have it just as bad as rural indians" doesn't make much sense. But again, as I said before, it's not a race to the bottom. I'm saying you have to be realistic about your conditions. This is not meant to say that you should have it worse, or that you don't have it bad. Americans are actually in a very interesting position for class struggle, and I encourage them to win it.
>>2559432Violent schizo retardation. Anti-social and hungry for pain buried within your rhetoric. Projection in its purest form. YOU are violent and unforgiving. You hurt. You do not help.
>>2559417The entire third world isn't Sudan, I referenced multiple countries. But you knew that.
Reminder that this entire retarded argument started when CPUSA anon said
>>2559319>Like there are parts of this country I've been to where things seem almost third world status. And then the TWists faggots had to start going on about. AMERICA ISN'T THE THIRD WORLD! When that isn't even what was said in the first place. TWism really is mental disorder. The most hilarious part is they're all White kids from a nice suburb. That's what motivates them in the first place is the guilt they feel, and they get really ornery when any American dares not feel the guilt they have or tell them that some people in America don't have it as nice as them.
third worldism is based, seethe about it firsties
>>2559457guaranteed you're a first world suburbanite
>>2559452yeah TWism really is built on Guilt culture predominantly found in The Abrahamic West. A failure to realize their own Westoid unconscious motives, of course leading to self-rightous violent projection. Unable to forgive themselves and simply move forward in the face of imperfection like the rest of the "Third World" actually does in practice because they have to. Ignorant and blind-spotted.
>>2559431is officially still called the department of defense trump just gave it the nickname "department of war". It would require too much work to rename it because you have to rename everything digitally and physically.
>>2559425As if spending essentially my entire life killing brown people in the middle east wasn't enough, we're gonna do it again but in South America. Do you think we're gonna do them like the IDF did Gaza? Oh you already know it. Rest in Piss to any stupid honkey troop that gets taken out by a drone deep in the Venezuela jungle. Fucking imperialist stooges. Hope that 32% APR Dodge Charger is worth joining the 22 a day veteran suicides. Tag your local recruiter's office. If you let your kids join the military, you're a shit parent feeding an evil system.
Then these fucking peckerwoods have the audacity to be like "Why are you coming into my country?" because you, the imperialist you, have destabilized and destroyed these countries in the global south in order to make like 15 families that much richer. You have these regime-backed ICE soldiers disappearing kids off our streets right now. Families that immigrated because we fucking funded death squads in places like Nicaragua and we also fucking fund the cartels. Remember Fast and Furious? Obama-era policy for selling weapons back to the cartel? I ain't forgot shit. These fucking cowards.
Your soldier hero boy is about to die for fucking oil you pathetic capitalist cuckold. If you're a recruiter? You're a fucking op. Sending working class men and women to die for the rich, to kill other working class men and women in some other place you know nothing about so honkeys like Peter Brian here can LARP being a crusader. What a pathetic excuse for a country.
This is why this system cannot be reformed, cannot be voted into submission. The imperialist only knows war, and we need to bring the fucking war home. How many people does your country, your tax dollars, your flag have to kill before you burn that flag, that system and those people down to the fucking bone?
Narco-terrorists? Only terrorists are those working for capitalist imperialism.
>>2559463It won't work so it's not something I'm too worried about in the Grand Scheme of things. I would call it an inevitably Pyrrhic event but that would imply winning. """Invading""" vuvuzela would be simply another thruster to the acceleration of all American foreign influence that's already happening. If I were vuvuzelan, I would say bring it on, pussies
>>2559452Wait it did? I don’t really pay attention to those posts anymore so if I set them off I apologize to yall dealing with them.
>>2559444I am the anon you are responding to. Thanks for clarifying. No further comments. The other anon who ersponded is not me though I think you both make good points.
Undoubtedly racist is the idea of unipolar globalization. It is based on the fact that Western, especially American, society equates its history and its values to universal law and artifcially tries to con- struct a global society based on these local and historically specific values – democracy, the market, parliamentarianism, capitalism, individualism, human rights, and unlimited technological development. These values are local, and globalization is trying to impose them onto all of humanity as something that is universal and taken for granted. This attempt implicitly argues that the values of all other peoples and cultures are imperfect, underdeveloped, and are subject to modernization and standardization based on the Western model.
Globalization is thus nothing more than a globally deployed model of Western European, or, rather, Anglo-Saxon ethnocentrism, which is the purest
Men are totally defined by their identity, language, cultural biology, history, and heritage in any sense, positive or negative. So I think in that sense only robots or racist, which are almost the same typologically, cold pretend to possess a universal rule or universal protocols to define what justice if for a Russia, Muslim, or Chinese.
Dugin
>>2559465in third world conditions*
>>2559465>no one is saying thatliterally read the thread please lmao. It's everywhere in here, and all the time. That's the most blatantly incorrect thing you've said.
>stating facts we all already knowYeah I'm arguing about what that information actually MEANS, as in what to do about it. You're like 3 steps behind brother this is OLD news
>>2559470is it just me or is dugin's head fucking massive compared to his body
>>2559458it's so nice that they call us "mei guo" literally "beautiful country." I feel so flattered.
>>2559468>Wait it did? Yeah that was the first instance in this thread. Then I started discussing what places in America had a third world
vibe. Again not saying America = Third World. But it came too dangerously close for them so they had to start a long lecture about how America=/= third world.
>>2559468Would you say that TW faggots are a problem irl or mostly an internet-brained phenom brought about by Bad Shrimpenada and the like? Like out in the wild, are they spoiling things or just a meme everyone who's serious easily pushes away?
>>2559458jesus I know the cynic in me wants to see this as a massive power move but I must resist
>>2559479well there was that Black Hammer cult a few years back, and I even saw a person on hexbear who was inclined to agree with third worldist conclusions saying that black hammer types had wrecked their real life mutual aid org. So it can be a problem IRL, especially if they're feds, wreckers, cultists.
>>2559479Actual leftists hardly exist IRL, or at least those actively working towards revolutionary tactics. When I started this community pantry, no one knew what mutual aid really even was, side from 1 or 2 'vibes based' leftists.
The issue with this internet shit is that actual revolutionaries use these spaces and knowing this, demoralizers, feds and other wreckers attempt to use these tactics in the hope they'll demoralize us from organizing IRL.
>>2559481the race to the bottom must stop
>>2559481That appears to be you who started it going by the (you)
>>2559476Ah, well that’s TWists for you. Best advice I’ve got is not to respond.
I know the temptation is hard because they’ll invoke the specter of, I dunno, “internationalism” or whatever to try and force the issue. Just understand they’ll use things like “internationalism” or “anti-imperialism” the way a domestic abuser uses “family”. It’s to make you seem obligated to stick with them.
Anyways, here’s some French Onion Soup I made the other night. It was good.
>>2559483motherfucker mutual aid is just charity. You act like that's revolutionary.
>>2559485If you go back I accidently replied to my post and not the anon with the green text
NO MORE RACE TO THE BOTTOM
<A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls. An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature.
- Karl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital (1847), Chapter 6
<The thoughts of every piece of private property as such are at least turned against richer private property in the form of envy and the desire to level everything down; hence these feelings in fact constitute the essence of competition. The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the entire world of culture and civilization, and the return to the unnatural simplicity of the poor, unrefined man who has no needs and who has not yet even reached the stage of private property, let along gone beyond it. (For crude communism) the community is simply a community of labor and equality of wages, which are paid out by the communal capital, the community as universal capitalist. Both sides of the relation are raised to an unimaginary universality – labor as the condition in which everyone is placed and capital as the acknowledged universality and power of the community. […] The first positive abolition of private property – crude communism – is therefore only a manifestation of the vileness of private property trying to establish itself as the positive community. […] By reducing the worker's needs to the paltriest minimum necessary to maintain his physical existence and by reducing his activity to the most abstract mechanical movement. In so doing, the political economist declares that man has no other needs, either in the sphere of activity or in that of consumption. For even this life he calls human life and human existence. By taking as his standard – his universal standard, in the sense that it applies to the mass of men – the worst possible state of privation which life (existence) can know. He turns the worker into a being with neither needs nor senses and turn the worker's activity into a pure abstraction from all activity. Hence any luxury that the worker might enjoy is reprehensible, and anything that goes beyond the most abstract need – either in the form of passive enjoyment or active expression – appears to him as a luxury.
- Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts, Third Manuscript, Private Property and Labor (1844)
>>2559486Fucking love soup. Soups and stews are not only proletarian but communist. Big Soup
>>2559494
not clicking the virus link
>>2559488charity is when the rich throw scraps at the poor
mutual aid is when the poor show solidarity with each other so they can hold out during sustained actions, like strikes.
>>2559493grown ass women dressing ironically and doing shit like this lmfao
>>2559493take it to isg bucko
>>2559499fake link, very disappointing
>>2559499don't get my hopes up please
>>2559479I think the issue is we have double standards in regards to the internet. Like whether we like it or not, it still shapes perception and creates impressions. What do you think a dude who’s interested in communism
today will do? Go to his library and try to rent all the books he needs to understand it without knowing where to start? Contact his local communist party? Or try to do research online?
And yknow you’ll hear “oh it’s the internet, it doesn’t matter” (though I knew a couple folks that got kicked from their org after some new guy came in and started pushing Settlers talk) but consider that the Young Republicans Group Chat got leaked and they were all rape-loving Hitlerites. For one instance did anyone on here just dismiss it with “Oh, that’s not the Republicans, that’s just the internet, it happens”? No, in fact I think we’d all be more surprised if the Young Republicans were talking about small business or lower taxes than how much they love Hitler.
So I think even if this phenomena is most vocal online, it still has knock-on effects. It leaves people with impressions. Maybe the most depressing I saw was some online comment about a fucking Warframe song that was like “I wish communism was about this, like unifying people not dividing them.”
>>2559509i hope they keep doing that and they arrest nick fuentes
>>2559509he interviewed Anna kasparian in his last vid whom he said he admires
>>2559486>>2559486>I know the temptation is hard because they’ll invoke the specter of, I dunno, “internationalism” or whatever to try and force the issue. Just understand they’ll use things like “internationalism” or “anti-imperialism” the way a domestic abuser uses “family”. It’s to make you seem obligated to stick with them.Yeah I've traveled to the third world and I've seen some Anerica's worst ghetos and I have friends from them. Honestly a lot of America is worse than a lot of the third world.
>I've been all over the world but America is colder,>much more foul, much more wild, >the chopper go chop the popper go pow!I know a lot of friends that have been victims of violent crime, many involving firearms. A lot of third worlders don't have that experience. America is a crazy place.
>>2559514It's not fictitious capital when data centers and factories are actually getting built
>>2559517>It's not fictitious capital when data centers and factories are actually getting builtwhat's happening is that there are a lot of promises being made and a very small fraction of those promises are being fulfilled in a half assed way, while what happens way more often is capital is being cycled through the system in a purely speculative way with very little physical results to show for it. These AI startups are not profitable for the most part. investors hope for a "J curve" where large investments of capital start off with a short term loss followed by a long term profit, but these promises aren't being fulfilled at all.
>>2559509God I hope Ben Shapiro responds by quoting that one Israeli rabbi that said the goys exist to be slaves to the Jews. It’d be funny as fuck.
so im doing an economics paper and looking at it, all fred statistics point to real income and other wealth statistics still going overall up. Meanwhile debts, part time jobs, and other bad economic factors are low.
What am i missing? Is the issue class based? Should I look at statistics for groups below the 50th percentile?
>>2559384This reminds me of Contrapoints being completely out of touch with the proletariat.
>>2559371> A chunk of them would have died of diarrhea and malnutritionThey literally are.
Also, Vietnam has less deaths due to malnutrition than the U.S.
>>2559517Those factories and data centers don't have 4.5 trillion dollars worth of product though.
Literally the entire "growth" of the US economy in the past few years is speculative, based on the assumption AI will someday become profitable(it never will). Without government subsidies and VC money AI would not be able to sustain itself with how much these companies are wasting to produce anything resembling a competent LLM.
The moment China figures out how to produce low cost high accuracy LLM's(arguably they're already there) the AI bubble will burst. If VC's aren't getting a return on their investment they aren't gonna keep shelling out money for AI. That's already happening as Sam Altman is begging Trump for a $500 billion taxpayer loan because his investors are cutting him off.
>>2559521No, a lot of data centers are actually getting built. This is why there has been such a huge search in consumption of electricity. All these infrastracture requires concrete ,copper, thousands of construction workers, etc. City councils are getting a lot of complains about data centers that have been built or are coming to their town and causing an increase prices in electricity and resources like water being use. Again, it's energy and resource intensive production. That's material. Most of AI investment is dominated by CAPEX, not stock buybacks (fictitious capital). They're also not just investing in each other, they're paying outside industries. Amazon pays construction firms, fiber-optics manufacturers, chip design teams, etc. AI capex is driven by
physical bottlenecks.
>>2559526>Also, Vietnam has less deaths due to malnutrition than the U.S.per capita?
>>2559341I grew up in rural California and there was town that didn’t have access to clean water. It’s not unheard of to have people live in unimaginable squalor in this country. Just look at skid row in California or the tent cities in Houston. The material conditions have changed in America drastically since the 90s. After 08 it’s been a non-stop downward spiral pushing more and more people into slums.
>>2559533just because data centers are being built doesn't mean they are profitable or sustainable though. see
>>2559529 >>2559526>Vietnam has less deaths due to malnutrition than the U.S.that's just straight up false.
>>2559536Okay but then that's a different argument which is about profitability and long-term sustainability. That's not the same as fictious capital that exists on paper, which does not consume electricity, steel, or labor. Data centers, GPUs, power lines, and chip fabs are physical sunk costs. By the way, many railroads in the 19th century were bankrupt initially. Railroads are still around. Most fiber optic startups never turned a profit during the dot-com era, but the internet has become a ineluctable part of our daily life now. Tesla in the early 2010s incurred massive losses while building its factories and EV capacity. Unprofitable today does not equal fictitious or does not mean the tech will always be unprofitable.
>>2559541Well they broke it down and in order for all the AI investment to pay itself off it would need to provide the total value of silicon valley to the rest of the economy twice over, so it's possible just very unlikely
>>2559542>>2559534>>2559526>>2559537Anon seems to be correct
USA began to surpass vietnam in malnutrition deaths per capita in 2005 and has gone further ever since. In 2021 Vietnam had 0.3 per 100,000 while America had 1.9 per 100,000
>>2559547Jesus christ america
>>2559547that's because the US defines malnutrition differently as in diet related diseases. they literally include deaths from obesity and heart disease. the US does not have a higher death rate from classical malnutrition or starvation, it's actually extremely low.
>>2559552They’re not dying from starvation they’re dying because of the lack of nutrients in their food.
>>2559552the graph specifies protein-energy malnutrition, i.e. starvation.
>>2559547This graph just pissed off all the glowies in the thread
>>2559554they are using numbers from the US which defines malnutrition in a retarded way. the US doesn't have numbers speficially for the classical definition of malnutrition, it includes death from obesity and heart disease.
>>2559561the graph sspecifies protein-energy malnutrition. it is seemingly going off of a shared definition. 1.9 per 100,000 isn't that unbelievable for the USA when you consider that sierra leone has 39 per 100,000 and Vietnam has very good conditions and is at the very least social-democratic, if not fully socialist.
>>2559560 >>2559561Then why did it increase so much when Trump started cutting the food stamps?
>>2559566the graph only shows up to 2021 tbh. it goes up between 2005 and 2021
>>2559554Even if you were right, you’re not. And it’s weird that you lie about starving children. But let’s say you’re right, you don’t thinks it’s comparably fucked up to be fed food that starves you while making you obese at the same time. If not even maybe more fucked up in that its a dystopian hell type punishment?
>>2559568It is fucked up. The tw here which are basically glowies at this point ignore this very fact.
>>2559564rad
the red wave is rising
>>2559571>>2559553bangins tarded
watch bastards of the party
>>2559319> there are parts of this country I've been to where things seem almost third world statushttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_colonialism>>2559407>The african slaves were apart of the architecture of Settler domination the word "colonize" appears almost 40 times in this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_acres_and_a_mule>If you asked the average Native American whether the african slave was a foreigner or not you wouldn't like the answer. <In August of 1861, the Cherokee Nation had declared its allegiance to the Confederacy by stating that, “The Cherokee people had its origins in the South; its institutions are similar to those of the Southern States… [They] cannot but feel that their interests and destiny are inseparably connected with those of the South. The war now raging is a war of Northern cupidity and fanaticism against the institution of African servitude">>2559452>That's what motivates them in the first place is the guilt they feelboomer conservatives baffled by giga-chad Marxists who are autistically aligned with proletarian revolutionary characte
>>2559593This is why you need solidarity and anti-capitalism not liberal brain rot that is pushed by PSL and DSA
>>2559585Accurate description of the economy itself
>>2559547Yknow my parents, god bless them, they’ve tried understanding why so many young people feel despair for the future and reflecting on this picture I’ve got to say I’ve personally never seen a graph that shows anything good happening in my lifetime.
Like Jesus fucking Christ look at that shit. Look where we’re at. Nothing is getting better under the current state of affairs so it’s no wonder young people are becoming radical. Like shit things only get worse.
>>2559599who's going to pay the outstanding debt. are banks just going to forget about it
>>2559603Ok but boomers are dying soon, and millenials will just inherit their parent's wealth and real estate. All that wealth in the US doesn't just disappear.
Wait so Hegseth announced a new war and nobody is reporting on it? Is it a nothingburger?????
Trump blew Bill Clinton
>>2559599in china land ownership is illegal, you can only lease land from the govt. for 70 years. that's different than spending your entire life paying usury to a real estate company that owns your house and then dying and not even leaving your kids the house. Also you pay interest first and principle 2nd.
>>2559610operation southern spear was already announced in january
>>2559613well they own the house, but the ground is leased for 70 years. according to the Property Law of the People’s Republic of China (Article 149) and the Civil Code of the People’s Republic of China (Article 359), when the 70-year term for residential use expires, the land-use right shall be automatically renewed. and they don't pay annual property taxes there. so they could get a mortage like we do but they don't pay property taxes while we pay the mortgage and the annual property tax.
>>2559614But the boat bombing only started a couple of months ago and the military buildup around Venezuela is ramping up quickly, like what's the point of announcing it now then
>>2559599>and you die before interest can be collectedMy guy that's not how it works. The first mortgage payments you pay after getting the house always go towards paying off the interest first and foremost lol. Plus a 50 year lease literally doubles the total cost with negligible benefit. For Porky 50>30
>>2559425I had my doubts about it but now I fear it's pretty much a given that AmeriKKKa is going to military intervene in Mexico and Venezuela in some way or another (from drone attacks to full-scale invasion).
It's strange, things have really accelerated here in Mexico in the recent weeks: political violence has increased, discontent against Sheinbaum is bigger than I thought, there's strikes and protests everywhere and the overall vibes are really tense, like everyone is preparing for something big. I imagine things are even worse in Venezuela…
>>2559627Put pressure on the Epstein situation. The files we have received so far are actually quite juicy. We have enough to begin with their weaponization against those who seek ill on man.
Should we be successful in this endeavor, their imperialist efforts in the south will come to a crash.
France is much more culturally distant from the U.S than China is
>>2559599Why are you falling for this dumb scam?
>>2559636I am french and this is true
>>2559636Is Louisiana closer to France or China?
>>2559648I was eating a lot of rice in new Orleans so prolly China tbh
>>2559354China has constructed a world spanning trade network to bring in resources to make piles of commodities for global exchange. How are they not part of the core?
>>2559604this proves third worldists are correct about the US
>>2559636may 68 was so fucking cringe its unreal
>>2559599>>2559624>>2559637So is this worse or better than Kamala's plan for an assisted down payment on housing? I specifically remember being told she had no plans or anything to offer anyone in terms housing and general economic stability.
>>2559629>>2559624Appeal to facts fallacy, pure liberalism
>>2559657no way this is real
>>2559657Doubling down, doubling down, doubling down
>>2559657Why does he hate Israel if the country is a paradise for creepy pedos like him?
>>2559659CIA occupied website
>>2559659Reddit glows like the sun. Holy shit
>>2559655>whatabout Kamala Who cares?
>>2559651Because they get more value extracted from them by the core then they extract from the periphery
>>2558868BARF. KEKE. LOOOOl.
This made me laff hard.
>>2559651also they don't extract! They make their own shit in house! FUCK!
>>2559666I do faggot. Cause 1 I want housing and Im sick of retards voting for an obviously worse option and acting like it's massively superior somehow
>>2559672why would a professional revolutionary need a mortgage payment?
>>2559673What a truly retarded and unhinged comment. I forgot sometimes how many people online has a failing grasp of reality.
>>2559659Carter center
NEVER said there was fraud or 'election stolen' the only thing they said, and they chose their word very carefully, is that there were 'Irregularities'.
they explained very well what the irregularities were, but never attributed the irregularities promoting a positive outcome to neither side because they never had evidence of that.
>>2559679>>2559673Cool story guys. Real inspiring. Why dont you tell your poverty worship bull shit to the homeless or Xi Jingping or something.
>>2559680>oh hell nah what the fuck is thisFBI Rapid Response
>>2559681what part of "The first lesson a revolutionary must learn is that he is a doomed man" don't you understand? All I'm saying is professional revolutionaries need to set their priorities straight when it comes to getting into massive debt for personal enrichment
>>2559606Assuming any of that survives potentially years of medical bills and whatever decisions boomers may make in their later years. Shit my parents don’t even have their house paid off.
That said, I’d say “wait for your parents to die” broadly isn’t a healthy economic model.
Imagine being this way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_OvazzaOne out of three sons, he was born in a wealthy and influential Jewish family of bankers, resident in Turin, Italy.[6][7] His father and his brothers voluntarily enlisted to fight in World War I. While following Jewish traditions, such as celebrating Passover, the family was well integrated into Italian high society. His father served as the leader of Turin Jewish community.[8]
After graduated in Law, Ovazza moved to Germany aspiring to a diplomatic career. At the outbreak of the Great War in 1914, he volunteered and trained as an officer, only to suffer the humiliating defeat in the Battle of Caporetto. His patriotic letters from the front were published in 1928, and received general praise. After the war, the city of Turin was affected by the turmoil of the Biennio Rosso (Two Red Years) with repeated strikes, lockouts and violent demonstrations. The Ovazza family was alarmed by these developments.[8]
Ovazza was a committed fascist from the start. He participated in the March on Rome in October 1922; in 1929, he was invited to meet Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW as a part of a delegation of Jewish war veterans.[9] He later described the encounter thusly: "On hearing my affirmation of the unshakeable loyalty of Italian Jews to the Fatherland, His Excellency ᴉuᴉlossnW looks me straight in the eye and says with a voice that penetrates straight to my heart: 'I have never doubted it'. When Il Duce bids us farewell with a Roman salute, I feel an urge to embrace him, as a fascist, as an Italian, but I can't; and approaching him at his desk I say: 'Excellency, I would like to shake your hand'. It is not a fascist gesture, but it is a cry from the heart … Such is The Man that Providence has given to Italy."[8][9]
The National Fascist Party's attitudes to the Jewish population began to change when Adolf Hitler took the leadership of Germany. Although ᴉuᴉlossnW rejected Nazi racial theories, they influenced some leading Fascists in Italy. In 1934, several Jews were arrested in Turin for anti-fascist activity, because of the spying of a Jewish writer, nicknamed "Pitigrilli", who converted to Catholicism. Ovazza reacted by doubling his efforts to side with the Fascist Italy regime. He founded the newspaper La nostra bandiera (Our Flag), to remind the Italians of the Jewish people's sacrifices in WWI. Taking a leading role in the Hebrew community in Turin, Ovazza ensured that all the key positions were held by Fascists. When ᴉuᴉlossnW kicked off the invasion of Abyssinia and the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, he immediately volunteered for service, but he was rejected. Despite the beginnings of antisemitism, Ovazza was still being rewarded for his patriotism. In 1935, he was honoured for his contribution to Libya's colony, and the following year was named a fellow of the honour guard at the tomb shrine of the royal family at Superga.[8]
In 1938, when the Italian racial laws, a series of antisemitic laws, were approved, Ovazza's family was hit hard. Jews were no longer allowed to marry Aryan Italians, to send their children to state schools, to teach in the educational system, and to work in any capacity as state officials. Further, the new act forbade that a Hebrew could employ over 100 people, or could own valuable land or buildings. In 1939, Jews were banned from nearly all types of jobs. Jewish organizations were disbanded and many Jews converted to Catholicism or emigrated abroad. This put an end to the Ovazza business and banking operations. Ovazza was expelled from the Fascist party, and his brother from the Army.[8]
Ovazza's two brothers left the country and advised him to do the same; he was reluctant to leave the country, hoping that ᴉuᴉlossnW would change his mind.[10] He wrote an anguished letter to ᴉuᴉlossnW in which he expressed his pain. He stated: "Was it all a dream we nurtured? I can't believe it. I cannot consider changing religion, because it would be a betrayal – and we are fascists. And so? I turn to You – DUCE – so that in this period, so important for our revolution, you do not exclude that healthy Italian part from the destiny of our Nation."[10]
After the surrender of Italy to the Allied forces in 1943, Ovazza moved to Valle d'Aosta, with the hope of crossing the Swiss border, but in an attempt to do so, he was captured by the SS, and murdered along with the rest of his family, except for his daughter Carla, who had found shelter in Paris, France.[11] Their bodies were burned in a boiler, or in a wood stove, in Intra, Italy.[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Ovazza>>2559680He must be really mad about those files
>>2559685At their age they should have medicare.
>isn’t a healthy economic model.We've always lived in a sick economic model. Nothing will change until the revolution comes because of AI and a lot of people are jobless.
>>2559606All that shit will go to paying pedophile insurance middlemen and nursing home parasites, from being exposed to paraquat in the 80s or whatever
honkoid status?
>>2559687If anything it's probably because groypers keep calling his mossad spy gf a mossad spy.
>>255962930 year mortgage is more capitalist than 50 year mortgage because it benefits the banks more because they get faster rate of profit and the bourgeois homeowner gets equity faster, crushing the proletarian with greater speculation.
If 50 year mortgage is better for banks, why not 100 or 1000 year mortgage?
>>2559605>>2559635Equity is bourgeois. Estates are bourgeois. 100% foreclosure rate is best because bank rate of profit is zero while also preventing new petty bourgeois estates.
>>2559613This issue of "paying interest first and principal 2nd" is bourgeois. "Total costs" do not matter to proletarians. The lower payment and rate of profit is all that matters
Where is that gay nazi flag guy? Make him read this about his al Qaeda hero written by the ambassador of the usa
>Damascus will now actively assist us in confronting and dismantling the remnants of ISIS, the IRGC, Hamas, Hizballah, and other terrorist networks, and will stand as a committed partner in the global effort to secure peace.
>In a pivotal follow-on trilateral session with Secretary Rubio, Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan of Türkiye, and Foreign Minister Asaad al-Shaibani of Syria, we mapped the next phase of the U.S.–Turkish–Syrian framework: integrating the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) into the new Syrian economic, defense and civic structure, redefining Turkish-Syrian-Israeli relations, and advancing the alignment that underpins the Israel-Hamas ceasefire, as well as various Lebanese border issues
a good prole doesn't succumb to such bourgeois frivolities as homeownership
>>2559704is this the same guy that sent pictures of his daughter to Epstein?
>>2559698thats writen by AI
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