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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
Freedom Fries Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
• CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

🏚️ Local News 🏚️
https://www.50states.com/ce/

✊Live Protest Streams✊
https://woke.net/

🏝️ Epstein's Client List🏝️
https://epsteinsblackbook.com/

🇮🇱 Track Zionazis (apparently ShareBlue backed, gross)🇮🇱
https://www.trackaipac.com/

📖Read, Burgga, Read! 📖
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV

Previous thread: >>2562035

Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet

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long live the international solidarity of workers


So what are the best treats? Asking since I might end up a tourist in burgerland. I heard that something callad a Baja Blast is a good treat. What other treats should I put on my Adolf Treatler list?

>>2563208
Dubai Chocolate and Labubus

>>2563208
>So what are the best treats? Asking since I might end up a tourist in burgerland. I heard that something callad a Baja Blast is a good treat. What other treats should I put on my Adolf Treatler list?
If you want a real answer. Our smoked meats are pretty gud. I've been seeing they've been recently gaining traction in bongland. Our weed is good. Uhh after that I would just visit our best national parks in the West of the country. Utah, Arizona, California, Yellowstone, etc. Other than that it's kinda garbage.

>what are you reading
<old /usapol/ threads
>why do you keep reading them
<i'm just trying to figure out why we keep making the same mistakes… over and over…

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>third worldists are wron-ACK!!

They say a man's role is to provide, sure. But capitalism twists this into a transaction, into something that's only quantifiable via direct financial success. I started this community pantry, and while I haven't been able to actually buy things for it, I am the person who sorts it, who organizes it, who puts out notices on what we have, what we need, what's being taken, what's not. Baby food actually getting taken? Might be worth letting people know someone needs that shit. Might be worth asking around, "Do you even have a stove to cook with?" when we realize we've got too many dry goods but the canned stuff gets taken right away.

The capitalist wants you to internalize a viewpoint wherein this sort of providership is invalid. After all, if you were "really getting it," you'd be the one just buying the formula. It wouldn't be a community pantry then; it would be a transaction. You're just doing charity at best, sugaring at worst. What feels better: dropping $300 on a dinner date to flex for some chick who ain't really even like ya as a person, or making sure people you actually know are having their needs taken care of?

The money trap is just that — a trap — and it's taken me a lot to start realizing that. When you're so focused on money as the measure of your personal value, you lose sight of the real ways you can provide, the real work it takes to build. You get blinded by the capitalist framework. Your value cannot be reduced down to a number; a real community is too interdependent for that. It took a lot of pillars to support the Parthenon. One pillar might be strong, might hold up one section, but if it was the only pillar? Homie, that roof is collapsing, no matter the strength.

That's why mutual aid is so powerful. You're building pillars of support in a way that the capitalist simply cannot comprehend. I'm gonna keep it a buck: I'm really not trying to be out here debating for YouTube views, or trying to finesse the algo to get that newest video posted, or see how many upvotes we can get on some Twitter-bait shitpost. I'm trying to be out here doing the damn thing. They know me, they know the clout, they know the score, but the visitor count, the readership, the audience, the notoriety, the "dirtbag leftism" ain't shit to me — ain't mean nothing if we ain't here doing the work.

Breaking down the real chains. Carrying the heavy loads. Having the hard conversations. Connecting the networks. Going to the masses. There's work to be done that must be done and will be done, and that work ain't just wage-slavery trap-house cooking in whatever kitchen — back of house, back of the alley, chicken or crack — selling and moving the money around. It only matters if you're building something bigger than yourself, something truly revolutionary.

It's about sowing the fields that the spark can catch ablaze. A single spark can start a prairie fire, but comrades, we have nothing here but concrete caskets and a bleak, overwhelming sense of alienation. Time to break down the concrete. Time to be a pillar. Time to sow the fields. That's the new energy. The grind continues, transmuted into revolutionary moxie.

—Erik Houdini

>>2563216
>>2563216
>Uhh after that I would just visit our best national parks in the West of the country. Utah, Arizona, California, Yellowstone, etc. Other than that it's kinda garbage.
I personally been to and would recommend:
>Redwood
>Yosemite
>Bryce
>Arches
>Zion
>Grand Canyon
>Sedona

I haven't been to Yellowstone yet. But all of those I listed are world-class kinda nature that's definitely in the top worldwide I think.

>>2563219
>Israel
<not nazis

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>>2563219
guess israel is based now

Israel has always been the strongest TW soldier at least they finally now admit it

>>2563224
>Redwood
*Seqoiah, sorry. Death Valley and Bonneville Salt Flats is pretty cool too.

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>>2563228
The salt flats are pretty awesome. I drove through them many times to buy weed just across the border in Nevada lole

>>2563214
>This is, in my opinion, the stark reality facing Latin Americans. In the final analysis, the economic development of the United States and the need of its workers to maintain their standard of living means that our struggle for national liberation is not waged against a given social regime, but rather against the whole nation, bound as a bloc by the iron-clad supreme law of common interest, over their domination of the economic life of Latin America.
https://redsails.org/amiga-o-enemiga/

>>2563219
American workers must fight American imperialism whether or not they truly "benefit" from it, because the long term survival of the world depends on it, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Telling American workers that they are hopeless and nothing can be expected of them other than the destruction of the planet is nihilistic and counter revolutionary. This is the argument that was put forward in the last thread and it was relentlessly strawmanned over and over again, and then when this was pointed out, all sorts of deflections and denials were used.

In exchange for cheap banana and cheap iphone, whole world gets bombed, american workers get hated and treated as as equal to their bourgeoisie, even as american watches prisons get build at home and IDF train cops and infrastructure crumble in exchange for said "benefits" of cheap banana and iphone. american workers are fed up with it and we must fight american imperialism and not side with reformists who say put bandaid on capitalism for another 50 years.

>>2563219
UN vote is not popular vote from american workers, but admission from american ruling class that they will put third world workers against american workers by doing imperialism

>"benefit"
🤣 Scare quoting bitch

>>2563217 (You) (me)
>>2563164
Like this is what I’m talking about

>when you live on land taken from people your ancestors killed,


>The oppression of third world countries and their vassal states provides benefits to everyone in the Amerikkkan empire,


Because Native Americans are still alive today and live in the American empire these two statements contradict each other. Do Native Americans also benefit from imperialism, or do they not? Why does everyone on both sides act like natives are extinct?

Not trying to take sides here, just clarifying what the sides even are.

>>2563208
I'm gonna take the contrarian take here but I think if you're touring the Burger Reich you should consider the east coast. Aside from the fact that our beaches are warmer there's a whole lot of cool historical shit from early settlements like Jamestown and Roanoke to Civil War shit like Gettysburg.

>>2563230
>1954
This is a position he abandoned later after he became an actual revolutionary. Around the time he wrote this he was still a follower of Arbenz, ie a social democrat. His later statements on this issue (as a Marxist revolutionary) show the exact opposite opinion.

>>2563230
here is something else che also said:

I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all. You live in the belly of the beast.

— Dr. Ernesto “Che” Guevara

which is what I am saying. american workers MUST oppose imperialism rather than listen to third worldists and conclude that they benefit from it and should therefore side with american ruling class and destroy the planet. american worker MUST oppose nato and israel, not to redeem themselves morally, but to literally give humanity a future.

>>2563239
>I'm gonna take the contrarian take here but I think if you're touring the Burger Reich you should consider the east coast. Aside from the fact that our beaches are warmer there's a whole lot of cool historical shit from early settlements like Jamestown and Roanoke to Civil War shit like Gettysburg.
>T. Never been to West Coast
LMAO no. I've been up and down that bitch. Only thing worth visiting really is Washington DC really. I wouldn't recommend NYC even and certainly nothing else. Boston is shit. What other cities are even worth mentioning?

If you're from Europe, you won't be impressed by any city in America. NYC maybe as a novelty. But you could go to London for cheaper for the same garbage feel.

>>2563237
whether or not benefit is real, american MUST fight american ruling class, who hold whole world hostage

if BurgerWorker.benefitFromImperialism() = true
{
BurgerWorker.becomeclasstraitor()
}


if BurgerWorker.benefitFromImperialism() = false
{
BurgerWorker.fightBurgerImperialism()
}

>>2563238
Please respond to what I am saying!!!!!!

>>2563223
I don't really like talking to people or forming many connections, I also don't like physical labour, I would rather make money in my bullshit job and leverage it to get what I really want in life, the more money you have the less of a social life you can have and still be considered as 'normal' enough for women to like you and fuck you.

what socialists don't want to admit is how many people are like this, most people don't want to go out, they want to stay in the house, have sex in the house, eat food in the house, not form big kumbaya communities.

when a man makes enough money to get out their moms basement, the first thing they do is dump all their friends and focus on having sex with their girlfriend, no one who has enough money to live comfortably wants to agitate, activism is for people are too broke to hide in their cave, have sex, eat doordash and watch netflix.

>>2563239
>>2563244
i was thinking about visiting some nice little towns like in this gordon ramsay episode
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7lNUSBhIFc
>leafy autumn feelz
>choo choo trains
>lush forests, hills
>crazy ass hoarder ladies

Any other towns like this?

>>2563239
>cool historical shit from early settlements like Jamestown
That Jamestown live reenactment place was always my favorite place on my East Coast exursions tho. Good call.

>>2563251
I've never really been to New England. Only to Boston, so yeah I guess New England is the place for you.

>>2563242
>What other cities are even worth mentioning?
Baltimore, Charleston. Maybe Miami

>>2563250
if this nihilistic attitude were remotely true people in relationships wouldn't seek friendships and start families

>>2563227
israel lobby DRAIN burger reich nut for gazacide, so burger reich cannot shoot rope on other country, big true

>>2563256
the friendships and the families are to salvage the dying relationship

>>2563254
>Baltimore, Charleston. Maybe Miami
I've been to Baltimore. It's the worst place I've ever been to in my life and I've been to the African third world. I got jumped in Baltimore lol. The story is way more crazy than that. Baltimore is an absolute shithole. They only have like one place that they fixed up in the bay and the rest of the city is 30% abandoned buildings and every block there are 20 Black dudes hanging out on the corner all day everyday.

>>2563241
you must oppose it, yes, this doesnt mean you dont benefit from it, or at least you did in the past when the empire was on the rise

>>2563238
PLEASE. RESPOND. TO. WHAT. I. AM. SAYING.

>>2563240
did he ever say "yeah im sure burger proles will join us very soon :)"? I dont think so

>>2563241
Nah see the usual response is “that’s not what we mean, we never said that” while continuing to never elaborate what they do mean; which is that you should slave away for a movement that will not just not benefit you, but will actively attempt to make your life worse, in the name of “redemption” when you can just… not.

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>he thinks the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie represents the working class
>he thinks the electoral system of the neocolony is legitimate representation
>he doesn't understand that this entire system was designed to carve this land into easily manageable chunks
>he doesn't understand that the 'representation', both state and federal only exists to facilitate corporate control over resources within these chunks
>he still doesn't get that Amerika is a neocolony for internationalist capital
>he thinks borders are for the rich too

>>2563260
There are very bad parts of Baltimore, there's no doubt about that, but it's a pretty city with a nice historical district has gotten a lot better in recent years. Very common story for a lot of american cities actually, the place felt a lot like New Orleans

>>2563267
He literally said he envied them and that they had the most important role in the class struggle.

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>>2563270
>There are very bad parts of Baltimore, there's no doubt about that, but it's a pretty city with a nice historical district has gotten a lot better in recent years. Very common story for a lot of american cities actually, the place felt a lot like New Orleans
I went in 2014 and the only place that wasn't ghetto tier was that little bay area around the Barns and Noble or whatever. Looks like they closed it since. But everywhere else was different levels of ghetto shithole. You just walk a few blocks to where they have that casino and you'll see like a dozen half-naked hookers milling about the sidewalk. There isn't anything to see in Baltimore. I only went because my friend lived there.

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>>2563261
that's literally what I said the entire last thread. I said burgers no longer benefit from imperialism, because burger reich is privatizing, deregulating, outsourcing, building more prisons, building less schools, defunding education, defunding health care, letting infrastructure crumble, all while committing more and more resources to forever wars. i said americans are fed up with this and should stop this and then I was strawmanned and caricatured and told that actually americans will benefit even if the planet is destroyed. i was also told by reformists that I was third worldists, and told by third worldists i was a reformist. because to a third worldist, if I don't buy into the narrative that i get a pony every time a child is killed by a roided up troop, i must be telling people to vote platner, and to a reformist, if I don't buy into the latest round of succdem bullshit, I must be a bad empanada shill.

I'm sick of it!

If Marx was alive today he would wear hipster glasses and write his famous book Das Treat and he would start this time with theories of surplus value treat-u, or maybe bubu.

His preparatory work wouldn't be called Grundrisse but Ground Rice.

Engels - Socialism: Treatlerite and Scientific

Lenin: What is to be Snacked

Mao's Little Red Treat

>>2563233
lenin told westoids what to do more than 100 years ago yet they refuse to do anything except voooting for this rulling class that doesnt repressent them at all according to you, sounds very sus at the very least

Holy shit. I’ve said it multiple times, and I’ll keep saying until someone finally gives me some fucking clarification. It seems like there are three sides to this discourse, one which claims that all Americans don’t benefit from imperialism, one that claims all do benefit from imperialism including Native Americans, and a third that says that all Americans do and that Native Americans don’t exist anymore, and a fourth that says that all do besides Native (and Black) Americans. It’s impossible to actually have this discussion if people aren’t acknowledging who believes what and how their beliefs differ from each other, especially when the first position I outlined tries to argue against all three of the other positions at the same time.

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he's losing the honky vote

I heard this hot Dutch camgirl say Vegas was her favorite place in the world and she visited once a year. If you're a man without an excess of money, your mileage may vary though

>>2563273
Thats not the same as being optimistic about them actually doing something, he is just correctly poiting out that they should.

>>2563278
FUCKING RESPOND TO ME GODAMNIT!!!!

>>2563282
They aren't rising up in the third world either so its a most point. The strongest communist parties (apart from ruling ones that came to power like 80 years ago) in the third world are at best as strong as Western Euro communists in the postwar era.

>>2563278
If you buy an item in the US you benefit from imperialism. You don't even need to be an American, you can be a tourist. You can be homeless, female, lesbian, black. Doesn't matter.

>>2563278
You’re arguing beliefs with people who are just nihilists man. Like you’ll get a guy who beats their wife and kids but if they talk about doing anything about it or leaving they’ll just say “but we’re a FAMILY” as if that means anything. They’re invoking internationalism and imperialism as a cudgel, not an actual belief system.

I know you want answers but they won’t give them to you because they fundamentally want to hide their position, anger people, then accuse those people of being fascists so they can act morally superior.

>>2563278 and >>2563283 are both me, in case that wasn’t clear

>>2563286
Are you saying they intentionally change their position depending on who they’re arguing with in order to deflect, and that’s why it seems confusing?
>>2563285
Which of the four positions I outlined would you say you are?

>>2563289 (me)
Sorry for crashing out and typing in all caps btw

>Kazakhstan celebrates Thanksgiving
That's hilarious why didn't anyone tell me that

>>2563278
I grew up in the black belt and the other person who runs my magazine with me is a native american woman. Our line is essentially that 'America' as a nation state, as it currently exists, is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, and exists to faciliate resource extraction and economic consumption that, ultimately only benefits the capitalist class. There is no legitimate representation within Amerika because Amerika is a neocolony of internationalist capital. The American revolution was a war over which faction of the bourgeoisie (European, or Settler) would control the economic resources of the colonies. WW2 cemented this control. But the classes that maintain control over this region are internationalist. The capitalist is not bound to nationality in the way the working class is.


>A state can be said to be a neo-colonialist or client state if it is independent de jure and dependent de facto. It is a state where political power lies in the conservative forces of the former colony and where economic power remains under the control of international finance capital.

Kwame Nkrumah, "Sham independence," Handbook of Revolutionary Warfare (1968), p. 8

The three essential components of neo-colonialism are:
1. Economic exploitation
2. Puppet governments and client states
3. Military assistance
4. Economic "aid."
Kwame Nkrumah, Handbook of Revolutionary Warfare (1968), p. 15

>>2563277
i sound very sus because i say american workers should fight their own ruling class and stop bombing the whole world and i agree with lenin?

>According to new data from the online reservation service company Resy, 90% of Gen Z diners say they enjoy communal tables, compared to just 60% of boomers, highlighting a generational revival of one of the restaurant world's most polarizing trends: seating multiple groups of diners together at large banquet tables.

>>2563284
>They aren't rising up in the third world either so its a most point
Just because in this exact second there arent multiple communist revolutions happening in the third world doesnt erase the fact that there have been in the last 100 years way more attemps there than in treatlerite countries. Material explanation for this?

No one is responding to what I’m saying, wtf. I’m saying that there actually four different positions that people are arguing for, as I outlined here>>2563278, but no one is acknowledging that, and instead is conflating who believes what and trying argue against everything at the same time. I’m not trying to take sides, I’m just trying to get everyone to acknowledge what the parameters even are.

How can I best help destroy America?

>>2563259
have you ever helped someone even when it didn't directly benefit you because you cared about them?

>>2563302
>How can I best help destroy America?
obviously by telling american workers that they benefit from american imperialism and that their destiny is to team up with their ruling class to destroy the planet. definitely do not, under any circumstances, tell them that they should oppose their ruling class and dismantle their government. that would be treatlerism.

>>2563285
what if you import stuff from america? does that mean you benefit from imperialism? If china buys burger soybeans does that mean they benefit from burger imperialism? this argument seems flawed for multiple reasons.

>>2563297
>Just because in this exact second
There hasn't been a successful socialist revolution in the third world for like 40 years Anon. This isn't a short term lull but a long term decline in the power of the socialist movement since 1991. Meanwhile people had already begun to declare revolution in the first world impossible in the 1970s even though by that point communist parties still commanded levels of support in some Western countries that far surpasses what they enjoy in most of of the third world today.

>>2563278 (me)
Someone please respond to this, and at least acknowledge that the four positions are different from each other and shouldn’t be conflated like they are being right now.

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down with first worldism
down with third worldism
up with second worldism
all countries will become second world countries due to multipolarity. third world countries will be uplifted to be like China and Russia. first world countries will be humbled to be like China and Russia.

The garden and jungle will wither, and only the forest will remain!

If we know the capitalist class does not operate on national lines, then the question should be: How do we build a transnational solidarity of the working class and oppressed nations that can effectively challenge a transnational capitalist class?

>>2563309
>communist parties still commanded levels of support in some Western countries
Revolution lead by those parties status?

>>2563312
the actual correct opinion unironically

>>2563316
You're missing the point Anon. If a few decades of no revolution in the West is enough to declare first world revolution dead, then enough time has passed for the same to be said of the third world.

>>2563208
If you want a good burger look for the greasiest hole in the wall.

>>2563315
We could build a co-op franchise, we can create a socialist mode of production but instead of a nation you’ll be a co-owner in a international mega co-op. Just abandon the state model entirely and adopt the corporate structure and then start dissolving nation states from the inside as giant capitalist firms do now.


If you want good

>>2563308
>What's wholesale vs retail
In any case, for sure the Chinese consumer benefits from burger soy being grown with underpaid immigrant labor in the US, but that's beside the point since on a national level China is still importing more capital than exporting, although it is on the verge of overcoming this, but it's financial sector is still miniscule compared to the US and it's IMF, etc.

The US indebts entire countries and you get cheap shit in return.

>>2563309
>What happened to the Naxals?!
America.

>>2563320
>If you want a good burger look for the greasiest hole in the wall.
Bullshit. Every cheap diner in America is serving the same frozen slop from the same megaconglomerate. If you want quality food in America, you're going to have to pay premium for a place that is going the whole nine yards with farm to table and all that.

>>2563318
its not a time thing, if anything third worldists were more correct in the 70s than right now, the empire is on decline and the treats are running out

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>>2563324
> As a restaurant worker for decades it amazes me how many people don't know this. It has gotten to the point where the frozen food at the grocery is better than SysCo, and with an air fryer you can have better food for 1/5 the price. Watching people spend $11 on 4 chicken tenders blows my mind. It's $1 of food.

>>2563325
Man it’s almost like there’s a falling rate of profit and imperialism can only delay this and the ruling class will inevitably have to reckon with angry mob.

>>2563326
yeah i always eat home cooked meals

>>2563325
>its not a time thing
Explain how it's different.

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Pope status?

>VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Leo told a group of leading Hollywood actors and filmmakers at an audience in the Vatican on Saturday that cinemas were struggling to survive and that more should be done to protect them and preserve the shared experience of watching movies.


>Leo, the first U.S. pope, said cinema was a vital "workshop of hope" at a time of global uncertainty and digital overload.


>"Cinemas are experiencing a troubling decline, with many being removed from cities and neighbourhoods," he said.


>"More than a few people are saying that the art of cinema and the cinematic experience are in danger. I urge institutions not to give up, but to cooperate in affirming the social and cultural value of this activity."

You’re asking for definitions and shit, but Third Worldists don’t give a fuck about that. They don’t have a real position. They just hate Americans or westerners and are completely arbitrary in how they use terms. Think the /pol/ psychos that call Bezos a Jew despite not being one. You’re trying to reason and discuss terms with someone who just wants to entertain themselves by being a dick and masking it as an actual ideology. Much like a corpo invoking “family” to ruthlessly exploit his employees.


>>2563293
thats not what you said in the post that I replied to, dont try to use your yakubian tricknology on me, w*stoid

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>>2563317
i think about this video a lot

>>2563330
woke cinephile Pope? based??

>>2563333
it is what i've been saying all day in the previous thread and this one

>>2563331
I have a feeling they're stuck in the previous unipolar period mindset and haven't internalized the multipolar reality yet

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67 days since charlie kirk ACKed

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Read this wiki page to instantly die
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooke_Shields

>>2563312
>up with second worldism … The garden and jungle will wither, and only the forest will remain!
^ Turkish psyop

>>2563341
Pope Leo to declare a people's inquisition against the SiliKKKon Reich Nvidia money laundering scam

>>2563329
third world countries arent doing revolutions because of years of shock treatment, treatlerites didnt do revolution because of labor aristocracy, that might change because of >>2563327
you need a party and all that tho, good luck

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>>2563347
How about ZEROpolarity for a non-zero-sum world

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>>2563347
Multi polar bears.

>>2563338
but not the post I was replying to
you think people can see your face attached to every post you make? I only see anons and some n*mefags

>>2563335
Americans really don't know what it will be like to be a conquered people, lol.
I'm glad I have a masters degree in a STEM field to be mostly safe from this.

Americans will be fully conquered and working the 996 with zero chance of rebellion. China will do imperialism to the rest of the world and mainlanders will live in luxury and 20-30 hour works weeks while the rest of the world slaves away for them.

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>>2563352
China will liberate the entire world tho

>>2563331
>>2563332
Thank you for responding to the substance of what I said and clarifying things, I appreciate it and it makes me feel better!

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>>2563352
>I'm glad I have a masters degree in a STEM field to be mostly safe from this.

>>2563356
Lol, lmao

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>>2563360
KKKamala lost.

>>2563359
I refuse to work more than 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Regardless of it's for capitalists or communists.

I'll work hard when the financial or social elite work hard.

>>2563362
Why post this?

>>2563364
pmc moment

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>>2563250
This sounds like you're projecting your lifestyle-isms onto everyone. Even after a hard day at work, I still have the energy to go outside because I don't like being stuck at home all day.

I like being physically active and if I have to stay home for majority of my free time with a girl who's a homebody, I'd quickly end the relationship. I like using my money to go out and skateboard different areas, or when I'm not, I use to the money to buy a twelve pack and chill by the beach all night.

>>2563356
>>2563352
or maybe, just maybe, China is acting in their own interests to develop their own productive forces and doesn't care that much about the west one way or the other. maybe the west is not the center of world history… woag

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>>2563367
Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC? We are never seeing true liberation for labor in our lifetimes. Fuck working hard for people who don't give a single fuck about you.

If that means illegally immigrating to some nation, living off the grid, or whatever it takes to avoid being a wageslave, so be it. Only fools accept the lot they've been given in life. If you're born poor, you have an obligation to escape slavery, even at the risk of death.

In absence of a real worker's revolution that allows the working class to benefit from the immense increase in productivity via technology, depriving the world of your labor is the most revolutionary act you can achieve.

Ratmaxx or suffer a fate worse than death.

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>>2563363
She and her party should "lose" more than just an election though

>>2563378
>We are never seeing true liberation for labor in our lifetimes
Ok nihilist isn't it almost your bedtime

>>2563378
>>2563352
It would be funny if the imperial torch gets passed to china and they become the new treatlers. This just keeps happening to global revolution as the bourgeoisie will just keep moving the center of capital.

>>2563378
Idiot individualist.

>>2563384
It's been happening since the beginning. The parasites in russia, england, germany, japan went over to america and rode to the top. They'll flee to russia or china or back to europe when it becomes convenient. Only a truly global worker's revolution can stop this.

>>2563385
Have fun dying in an assembly line having never spent your one life on your own happiness. A true cuck, you are. You live and die for some company's bottom line. Pathetic creature.

>>2563378
>Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC?
calm down big boss

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America needs a national Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

>>2563387
>Happiness in asocial seclusion.
>Partaking in societal reproduction is actually le bad.
Yawn. You built your worldview around your psychological problems. Also, you don't get to lecture us about worker's revolution when you despise work and think workers are dupes.

Hypocritical, nihilistic, depressed, obnoxious.

>>2563387
you're still a wage slave even if you have a gilded cage. if you're gonna go down this line of thinking your goal should be to survive working less than full-time, build networks of mutual aid and start doing communization. becoming part of the PMC is just striver bullshit that isn't even applicable to most people's lives these days since labor aristocracy upwards social mobility is basically a thing of the past.

>>2563396
>umm you NEED to work 50 hours a week or more to be happy
>you NEED to rent from the land we violently seized or else we'll throw you in hecking jail!
Nah, I just won't play your retarded game. If you want people to participate, build a society worth living in first.

Animals don't pay rent. The vast majority of humans in history never had to do so either.

>>2563400
>do all the work for me before I participate
entitled much

>>2563400
You are twelve

>>2563358
Anytime. Trust me I was frustrated with Third Worldists nonsense too. Just don’t engage you’ll be doing yourself a world of good.

Is there seriously advocation for wage slavery in the thread now?

>>2563382
pessimism =/= nihilism
pessimism often comes from a very moralistic point of view

>>2563400
Wild animals don't pay "rent" but they are constantly fighting, running and hiding from other animals while struggling with the elements. That's essentially primitive labor.

>>2563410
They own their own labor at least. The short and brutal life of an animal in the jungle is far more honorable than the slow, prolonged death in servitude to a labor master.

>>2563373
tbf china is not going to repeat the mistake of US hegemony precisely because it is in their best interest. hegemony is a poison pill that leads to long term unsustainability. america repeated the mistakes of the dutch and the british. if china keeps on planning long term, maybe they can avoid those mistakes.

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>>2563414
I had almost posted exactly this sort of take but I figured that it's not even worth the effort since most of the morons who post in /USApol/ are too bluepilled on doomer idealism to remember that we are in fact supposed to all be communists here and therefore understand that history can be understood in scientific terms as functioning in certain ways and having certain properties. unless the CCP is stupid or actually has lost its way and become communist in name only, I don't expect they would choose to put themselves down the line in the same situation the west is currently in when they seem to be doing extremely well developing their productive forces without relying on imperialism.

>>2563362
Shouldn’t it be a horse penis?

>>2563412
Neither is honorable in my opinion. Nature is shitty I think humans try to correct it but we still do a shitty job at it. It all feels pointless but we'll keep trying because why not.

>>2563426
yes and I also should have clarified, america repeated some of the mistakes of the dutch and british, while still doing other things differently, and so there is an extent to which even within capitalist hegemony, the same forms of decline are managed differently.

>>2563440
Pretty sure the early post-WW2 years involved America supporting corporate colonialism over the old “plant a flag and conquer the country” kind that Europe still wanted to practice.

>“I wanted to come back here to Israel and let you know that I served you as the mayor.”

>- NYC Mayor Eric Adams

>>2563441
the main difference is that US imperialist strategy in the 20th century was to abandon the 19th century model of having a puppet state colony that is managed by imperial core bureaucrats while exerting control through either indirect means (making the US dollar the reserve currency) or if a country wanted to not be dependent on trade with the US they would either get regime-changed by covert CIA shit like Gladio and the Contras or they'd get embargoed into oblivion. but it still has the same form of imperialism via different means.

>>2563451
s/while exerting control/by exerting control/

>>2563412
>The short and brutal life of an animal in the jungle is far more honorable than the slow, prolonged death in servitude to a labor master.
think most humans disagree with this, which is why most humans do not commit suicide even when forced into slavery. One of the world's biggest religions, Islam, literally frames itself as servitude to God. I think the nature of servitude is such that the quality of servitude matters more than the general fact of it. People can tolerate servitude of a certain quality without killing themselves.

This is why equal obligation of all to labor for the classless society under communism is superior to laboring for private owner of capital, which is superior to laboring for a feudal lord, which is superior to laboring for a slave master. The freedom and life of the preyed-upon animal is short and brutish, even when compared to that of the human in servitude. to toil naked for subsistence while exposed to the elements, and to get preyed upon at any moment, is, I think, a terrible existence, that is only made better by the relative lack of self awareness.

>>2563451
did you mean to compare 21st century with 20th and say 20th and 19th by accident? 19th century american imperialism was to directly force markets to open with gunboat diplomacy.

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>>2563362
i like how the cum puts out his lightsaber like it's a torch

>>2563238
Benefit? I guess it depends on how you look at it. Here's one perspective… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVANRroxuOo
The context of failed socialism remark is mocking their definition of it and anger over the bia, among other things. You tell me if this is being a beneficiary of imperialism.

unlimited, dogmatic, zealot-like support to the JDPON in the age of the darkest reaction

>>2563275
I wonder if pic related is the thought behind the CPC members when a war breaks out between the U.S. and China and China is lobbing out nukes on the U.S. mainland.

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>>2563450
Nobody spat on him for being Christian?

>>2563471
>implying Israel isn't homophobic and racist
Aside from the more obvious things.

>>2563459
disregard that I suck cocks the point I was trying to make is that the dominant form of imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism transitioned in the 20th century from a European model to an American one where instead of directly conquering and managing the colonies as Europe did, the US was able to step in after Europe lost its empires and perfect its more indirect strategy of forced trade. which is ultimately how we ended up with neoliberalism, with lots of CIA shenanigans along the way

>>2563472
They were unsure to spit on him for being Christian or for being black. In their confusion they forgot to spit on him

Venezuela Symbolizes for the U.S. What Palestine Does for Israel

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/11/venezuela-symbolizes-for-the-u-s-what-palestine-does-for-israel.html

>There is no legitimate justification for U.S. aggression against Venezuela. But there is a powerful symbolism. The ideological currents driving this aggression are the same ones that drive Israel’s actions in Palestine.


>The U.S. is acting with complete disregard for any notion of international law. That was tacitly recognized by Marco Rubio when he said, after the G7 meeting in Canada: “I don’t think that the European Union gets to determine what international law is, and what they certainly don’t get to determine is how the United States defends its national security.”


>Rubio was responding to a question raised by a Kaja Kallas, vice president of the European Commission, who had expressed doubts that U.S. attacks in the Caribbean were either self-defense or based on a U.N. mandate. Rubio added: “The United States is under attack from organized criminal narco-terrorists in our hemisphere, and the President is responding in the defense of our country.”


>I do think that Trump and parts of his administration genuinely believe they are at war with drug cartels. Thomas Neuburger, commenting on a Michael Wolff post on how Trump arrives at his “facts,” which are often distorted if not outright wrong, describes it like this:


>“A man wakes up, maniacally searches the news for what involves him — which is just about everything now — then maniacally seeks from his staff how to digest all that in a way that makes him look good, or at least makes his foes look bad. When he gets what he wants, stories that make him feel good — it’s all about feelings, it seems — he stores their spin and later repeats what he hears, happy to show he’s right.”


>Some variation of that seems probable. The information loop feeds on itself and reinforces the same discourse. However, it is naive to believe that the entire foreign policy of the country, and specifically in Latin America, hinges on the president’s personal ideas. That is highly improbable. In Rubio’s answer, we have a clue as to where the real foundations lie.


>Rubio says “our hemisphere” — almost certainly not a slip of the tongue, but an expression of what he really believes. He is part of a U.S. political class that operates under the ideological assumption that the United States has a right — almost a divine right — over what it considers its sphere of influence, “our hemisphere.” That is why “Europe does not determine what international law is.” How could they — those whom we basically rule — tell us what to do?


>That is also why the U.S. claims a right to topple governments and meddle in the internal affairs of other countries, especially in the Americas, to promote its own interests. Rubio represents the bipartisan consensus that emerged from the hegemonic era of U.S. primacy.


>However hawkish, he still dresses his position in the language of democracy promotion and freedom, which serves to mask the appropriation of resources. His agenda against Venezuela is dominated by ideological anti-communism. For him, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba are “enemies of humanity.”


>But to think that U.S. foreign policy is still primarily driven by anti-communist propaganda is to cling to a paradigm that is already over. Other powerful currents are now moving the surface waters — currents that do not seek to build a bipartisan consensus but to do away with the need for one altogether. As Katherine Stewart puts it, this movement “isn’t looking for a seat at the noisy table of American democracy; it wants to burn down the house.”


>This is the ideological current that Vice President J.D. Vance represents: the National Conservatism movement, which seeks to reshape the U.S. according to Yoram Hazony’s idea of Israel. Hazony is the chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation, whose stated aim is to promote the ideology of national conservatism and which organizes the NatCon conferences. Vance has attended and delivered key speeches at NatCon and declares himself an admirer of Hazony.


>Hazony rejects liberalism as a rationalist “system of dogmas” and instead grounds political legitimacy in “God, the Hebrew Bible, family, and the independent nation state.” In his view, nations are not based on liberal principles of consent and universal equality, but on divine covenant and inherited obligations within a particular group. This provides the justification for an ethnostate such as the one he defends in Israel, in which the idea of the nation is tied to a specific people whose interests stand above all others, unconstrained by international law or minority protections.


>The bridge between Hazony’s Israel and Trump’s America runs through Christian nationalism and the National Conservatism movement. He cofunded the Edmund Burke Foundation with David Brog, former executive director of Christians United for Israel. J.D. Vance, Trump’s vice president, openly cites Hazony as a key intellectual influence and describes Israel as an “island of shared values,” presenting it as a moral model rather than merely a strategic ally.


>Christian nationalists — 80 percent of white evangelicals Christians voted for Trump — share the myth that the United States was founded as a Christian nation and believe that legitimate government rests not on the consent of the governed but on adherence to a particular definition of a religious and cultural heritage. This mirrors Hazony’s logic: if Israel is the God-given home of the Jews, America can be imagined as the God-given home of white Christians.


>Peter Thiel emerges as a central figure here: financier of National Conservatism, mentor and patron of Vance, investor in surveillance and defense technologies, and architect of an alliance between neo-nationalists, tech oligarchs, and the military-industrial complex. Through this network, ideas first articulated in the Israeli context — biblical nationalism, siege mentality, the fusion of religion and force — are translated into a U.S. setting.


>Thiel uses Hazony’s ideological biblical framework and the showcase of National Conservatism as a political vehicle for his own vision: an alliance between “Judeo-Christian” nationalism and a technocratic-oligarchic power capable of redesigning the Western political order in a more authoritarian, illiberal, and security-oriented way. He has famously stated that he does not believe that democracy and freedom are compatible.


>The American “experiment” as an Enlightenment, secular, rights-based republic is being reinterpreted and hollowed out in favor of a Hazony-style model: a state defined by “Judeo-Christian” identity, suspicious of universal rights, hostile to international constraints, and increasingly comfortable with oligarchic, techno-authoritarian power.


>Israel, as Hazony imagines it and as its most illiberal practices are admired abroad, becomes both mirror and blueprint for the direction in which Vance, Thiel, and their allies wish to push the United States. This is the symbolic function that aggression against Venezuela serves.


>For Israel, the war that began in Gaza has been a way of signaling to the world that it no longer cares to abide by any kind of international law. In pursuing its ideological and strategic interests — however they are defined — and in promoting a Jewish ethnostate, it presents itself as unconstrained by any definition of law other than its own.


>Those who support Israel because they think it represents a Western liberal democracy in the Middle East have completely misunderstood the meaning of this “eight-front war.” “Greater Israel” is not just a geographical concept; it is the epitome of Hazony’s ethnostate. That is what Netanyahu meant by “changing the face of the Middle East.” It’s the end of the liberal state and the real expression of “Israel first.”


>U.S. aggression against Venezuela should be read in the same light. The complete absence of any legitimate justification is itself a signal to the world of the ideological shift the U.S. is undergoing. It is announcing that it will no longer be constrained by the nuances of liberal principles such as democracy or universal human rights, or by the international system built on them. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, put it succinctly: “This kind of behavior is more typical of those who consider themselves above the law.”

>>2563474
I see, makes sense

Donald Trump defended Nick Fuentes by name today

https://xcancel.com/nicksortor/status/1990216620740894873#m

relevant

>>2563483
they're both pedophiles so it's not a surprise

>>2563461
the AOC regime should implement a sweeping criminalization of wojaks that is retroactive
the more wojaks you've posted the worse your punishment is
less than 10 = small fine and verbal warning
100+ = death penalty

>>2563518
Yeah organizing within the military was explicitly a focus with Leninists. There were numerous naval mutinities in the 1920s/1930s with communists involved including the Royal Navy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invergordon_mutiny

^ Scroll down to the last paragraph in that and look at who led it.

>>2563524
Both are also implicated in a gay blowjob scandal

>>2563471
Its one thing to be homophobic and racist if you grow up poor. Thats excusable. Kirk is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, likely never saw a black person for the first 20 years of his life, but he constantly harped about black criminality as if he lived in Oblock

>>2563471
Inasmuch as he deserved it, it’s for being a mouthpiece for capitalism and racism and actively trying to foment those attitudes. Palestinians being broadly conservative in their culture doesn’t mean they deserve to be exterminated.

>>2563208
depending on the state we got dutch tier smoke shops

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dream blunt rotation

>>2563588
Brandon do be loving his ice cream

name my band
>>2563588

>>2563591
Bubba's Love Sponges

>>2563414
>this is what americans actually believe
This but unironically

trump is now calling for the release of the epstein files. think the poll numbers got to him? what will be the catch?

>>2563608
Is he still talking about selectively going after enemies? Cos if there's an ongoing investigation they can't release them, like they couldn't when comey's daughter was doing the investigation.

>>2563608
>trump is now calling for the release of the epstein files. think the poll numbers got to him? what will be the catch?
The catch is the same as with "Fake News". They'll get people used to the idea that one can just lie about things with impunity and, truthiness relativized only the culture war investment remains.

So after a couple of rounds of mudslinging each other selectively implying and releasing tangential materials, the public will learn that attitude and understand that Epstein does not disqualify their pedo rulers as a whole and there is no knowable truth. Only ammo for the culture war.

>>2563611
Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote to Release Epstein Files

President Trump on Sunday urged House Republicans to back a measure that would compel the Justice Department to release the Epstein files, a sharp reversal from his previous stance after days of pressure from his party.

Mr. Trump said on social media that House Republicans should vote to release the files “because we have nothing to hide.”

“It’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party, including our recent Victory on the Democrat ‘Shutdown,’” he wrote.

In a Sunday interview on ABC News, Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky, who has helped lead congressional efforts to release the files, suggested that “100 or more” House Republicans could vote in favor of releasing the Epstein files this week despite opposition from Mr. Trump. The House speaker also predicted a significant number of G.O.P. votes.

Speaker Mike Johnson said last week he would move up the timeline for a vote on the bill to this week, and told “Fox News Sunday” that the House just needed to “get this done and move it on.” He added in a similar vein to Mr. Trump, “There’s nothing to hide.”

>>2563608
they will release a bunch of redacted crap and/or insignificant fluff like last time.

>>2563617
Heh, looks like they had enough votes to override him so he did a taco. I expect it'll be heavily redacted, at least if there are any court docs with witness testimony. After what they did to suppress it I figure the damage is done.

IS HE WRONG THO???

Damn, apparently an ICE raid hit my city last night that got like 150 people in one spot. PSL's going out there tomorrow to protest, but I wonder if that'll draw anyone in

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>>2563621
what if you stopped shilling imperialist hitlerites just because they are correct on one or two issues?

what if you fucked off to /isg/ like we have told you a thousand times?

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https://www.aol.com/articles/donald-trump-allegedly-banging-assistant-171527667.html

Donald Trump reportedly had an intimate relationship with his assistant Madeleine Westerhout, according to author Michael Wolff. Wolff made the accusation in a…

>>2563621
I'm sure there's no correlation between this board being overrun with people like you, whom should be shot in the head and left in an unmarked grave for being fascist scum, and the fact that every thread on this board is about absolute nonsense and no organizational tactics are ever actually discussed.

Nick Fuentes deserves to die and hopefully someone does just that real soon.

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>>2563631
ARE THEY WRONG THO?? They have a point.

[ok but seriously]

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Either his brain has fully turned into goo or they must have scrubbed the files clean by now

>>2563646
His handlers probably told him it's a losing issue because his voters are quickly turning on him over it. Instead they'll just delay the release in the courts until the midterms and then "oops can't release politically sensitive files during an election" and it'll be memory holed.

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This is the final goal of the BNWO.

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american narcissism is uniquely vile and i have no idea how we can fix it

>>2563646
Okay, this draft has input from Blondie who covered for ep b4. It names 'various dem operatives' they are 'looking into' and says house oversight can have what's left. It's still a coverup since evidence in an investigation can't be released to the public. Again, this is why nothing could be released before the comey daughter was fired. She was leading the investigation.

>>2563631
This, I take third worldist over Fuentes posters. Who gives a fuck about Mexican gay Hitler. He’s just another mutant born of the trump era and his power comes from paying attention to him.


>>2563652
Well shit, woke really is back.

>>2563655
>>2563648
Didn't they already catch that Project Veritas guy on video saying that they were delaying the files so they could edit them? No way this shit isn't completely forged

>>2563652
this is a men as a class of people being shit problem not an america problem

>>2563665
Sorry m8 but everywhere else in the world supporting your significant other emotionally is a basic part of being a relationship. Only burgers have the terminal bourgeois brain where this is considered a transaction and "unpaid work".

>>2563665
men really aren't the (entire) problem in this case. it is very much a cultural issue that people are so preoccupied with their own neuroses that they don't have empathy for others and see it as a burden to care for those around them.

it's very much a consequence of "late-stage capitalism" as redditors would call it to view basic relationship dynamics based on a profit-focused mindset.

Marxist prediction on Epstein file release bros?

>>2563663
Idk, last I heard of that guy he was doing acorn videos.
Since doj edited the missing minutes from the video where they killed him I'm sure they're destroying what they can. The raid on Little St James was where some of it disappeared but they can't be sure of wherher facsimiles exists or not.

>>2563652
chatgpt, generate 15 compound-word neologisms that frame basic aspects of life as "problematic" for my ragebait clickbait articles that I write for VICE

>>2563673
>it's very much a consequence of "late-stage capitalism" as redditors would call it to view basic relationship dynamics based on a profit-focused mindset
For real, "emotionally supporting my boyfriend is unpaid labour!" is a reflection of exactly the same mindset you hear from manosphere dickheads about how women with kids or a high body count are "low value." This is just the bourgeois feminist expression of same way of thinking as opposed to the misogynist expression you hear from Andrew Tate and his ilk. People who think this way seem to be functionally incapable of actually loving somebody, which is meant to be something you do without the expectation of any reward apart from the presence and wellbeing of the person you love. These people think more like reptiles than human beings.

>>2563674
Palestine knows too much.

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>>2563674
files will be heavily redacted to only arrest Democrats

>>2563686
you have a promising career as a Vice/Jezebel/HuffPost journalist

>>2563652
Suddenly I'm glad I'm too awkward and autistic for a relationship.
Well that sounds wrong on my part because I'm sure not all women are insane neoliberals.

>>2563683
It's because they're functionally incapable that they fall for culture war nonsense. War between the sexes was always the lowest hanging fruit.

>>2563689
I think these kinda women mostly just exist online. There's decent women irl if you're willing to socialize.

>>2563671
you're not wrong but the problem is that it's supposed to be a two-way street, but that's not how it works in practice with straight people. that's why the issue is specifically with men.

>>2563673
that's actually pretty dead-on insofar as the basis of where I'm coming from is Silvia Federici's analysis of how capitalism created modern gender roles. the tl;dr is that following the primitive accumulation phase when capitalism developed into its 19th century industrial form, a problem had arisen where the proletariat was being worked too hard that they not only were cut off from the means of subsistence (i.e. the commons) but also becoming physically and emotionally incapable of taking care of themselves, much less take care of the next generation of workers. so it was necessary to make men the class of people who work 16 hours a day in a factory while women would do the unpaid work of raising children, cooking and cleaning, and generally providing for men.

at this stage in capitalism (in the west) there's not really any material need for any of this since women have by this point been largely assimilated into the workforce. this is why over time more women have acquired some degree of class consciousness (though it's been kept in check by liberal feminist postmodernism bullshit) as far as their status in patriarchy goes where there are all these vestigial expectations of women in straight relationships that they have to do various kinds of informal and unpaid labor that men are exempt from, like putting in the work to communicate one's emotional needs and whatnot in a relationship, to tie it back to the article in question.

all of this shit is always phrased in a shitlib wokescold sort of way that's intended to bait the opposition into becoming more reactionary (like what the responses ITT are) but there is a kernel of truth to it that has been obfuscated by decades of literal COINTELPRO activity that was done against the second wave feminist movement.

>>2563331
Lenin was third worldist. Mao was third worldist. All Communist are third worldist. You defy Lenin so you are not a Communist.
<the industrial workers cannot accomplish their epoch-making mission of emancipating mankind from the yoke of capital and from wars if they confine themselves to their narrow craft, or trade interests, and smugly restrict themselves to attaining an improvement in their own conditions, which may sometimes be tolerable in the petty-bourgeois sense. This is exactly what happens to the “labour aristocracy” of many advanced countries, who constitute the core of the so-called socialist parties of the Second International; they are actually the bitter enemies and betrayers of socialism, petty-bourgeois chauvinists and agents of the bourgeoisie within the working-class movement.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/x01.htm
<To tell the workers in the handful of rich countries where life is easier, thanks to imperialist pillage, that they must be afraid of 'too great' impoverishment, is counter-revolutionary. It is the reverse that they should be told. The labour aristocracy that is afraid of sacrifices, afraid of 'too great' impoverishment during the revolutionary struggle, cannot belong to the Party. Otherwise, the dictatorship is impossible, especially in West-European countries.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
<The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch08.htm
>First, what is the cardinal idea underlying our theses? It is the distinction between oppressed and oppressor nations. Unlike the Second International and bourgeois democracy, we emphasise this distinction. In this age of imperialism, it is particularly important for the proletariat and the Communist International to establish the concrete economic facts and to proceed from concrete realities, not from abstract postulates, in all colonial and national problems.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm
<300-400 million out of 1,600 are oppressors
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/cw/pdf/lenin-cw-vol-39.pdf

>>2563693
>that's why the issue is specifically with men
Is it though? I've heard of plenty of cases of men feeling unable to open up to their partners because the are with girls who essentially expect them to be emotionless robots who never feel scared, sad, or depressed. You could argue that this is also a result of internalized patriarchy on the part of these women and I'd be inclined to agree. However that's clearly an example of a feature of patriarchy being enforced by women in a way that hurts men. When it comes to this online discourse I've found that there is no shortage of mindless man-bashing in bourgeois feminist circles that eerily mirrors online misogyny in how willing it is to make sweeping assumptions about the internal lives and emotional states of half the population.

>>2563686
good stuff lol
>>2563691
I think it's lesbians or femcels listening to their coworkers complaining about their bf and taking the one sided conversation as gospel.
>>2563693
>but that's not how it works in practice with straight people. that's why the issue is specifically with men.
And how would you know that if you don't have relationships with men yourself?

What does the A1 say about propaganda and low hanging fruit?
Haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZ6q8nyPk0


>>2563697
it's complicated and impossible to concisely talk about on a place like leftypol where a lot of users have not read any feminist theory and still live in a post-gamergate siege mentality on the subject. but this is why I said "as a class", because the class relations in patriarchy create these sorts of conditions where women can and often do act in their own self-interests out of the perception that by just adhering very strongly to the role they've been prescribed it'll give them some degree of protection. Andrea Dworkin wrote a whole book about this phenomenon called Right-Wing Women that would encompass what you're talking about of having certain expectations that men need to be excessively masculine and never show emotions or whatever but then bitch about the miserable toxic situation they've gotten themselves into where it's impossible to have a functional relationship.

but this is why I would take this critique even further and say that the problem is with straightness being inextricable from patriarchy and seen as the default. everyone knows that patriarchy harms men too but ultimately the way it's traditionally worked out is that men benefit materially from the arrangement, though like I said, things have changed somewhat now that women are largely assimilated into the workforce.

>>2563705
by reading theory and observing and talking to people?

>>2563709
explain why americans cry about third worldism and call themselves Communist, yet Mao Zedong created Three Worlds Theory. Lenin said imperialists living standard should go down. Lenin said all americans are oppressors and imperialist. Every word they speak is in defiance of Communism, yet they are tolerated. Please explain for the proletarian mind cannot fathom how they live with this contradiction.

>>2563710
It’s not just that women have been brought into the workforce but that women have been integrated into the bourgeoisie as well. Capitalism isn’t inherently patriarchal, if anything the increasing need to monetize and alienate people has been ironically dissolving a lot of old cultural structures. Which is good in some respects, yay for women rights and workers, boo Margaret thatcher and all that. The gender shit, I don’t won’t to get to deep into it. I think we’re in some awkward growing pains in the beginning of a post-patriarchal, post-racial world. Even if it doesn’t feel like it as we’re going through a particularly bad period of reactionary backlash.

>>2563697
>>2563710
The issue is that superstructure != material base. The material base is the family and the superstructure is "biological sex" and associated cultural norms. The family is an economic structure which alienates women of domestic labor (and emotional labor I guess?). The trouble is that political repression is not the same as economic alienation. The cops work for the capitalists but they are not the capitalists. Cops will absolutely fuck up a class traitor. Nazis will absolutely kill a race traitor. As a trans woman, I know that women will absolutely oppress the shit out of gender-nonconforming men. Feminists too often confuse superstructure and base. People too often confuse political repression with economic alienation. Women are alienated by labor in the family. Gender-nonconforming people are politically repressed by the society around them.

>>2563718
>>2563719
Also this. Capitalism is progressive in resolving remnants of feudalism in some ways, so a certain strata of women make a devil's bargain with capitalism. You see the same behavior with queer people. IMO women should adopt Lesbian Dengism instead of Liberalism.

>>2563710
>by reading theory and observing and talking to people?
While that's better than nothing you are an outsider looking in. In my experience women don't go to their partners exclusively about personal issues like men have a tendency to do. Women talk to friends, family, therapists, the paster's wife and requests the church pray for her while men try to keep personal issues close at hand and often limit it to their partner. So when women complain that their male partners don't react like their close friends that's because the men already understand she has told most her circle about her personal issues. He knows she already has a support group and doesn't see his input as being at the same level.

>>2563697
There's nothing more disguting to a lot of women than a man who opens up about his feelings.

Frankly I think that people who celebrate zohran’s victory are celebrating too early.
It’s naive to think that no-one will think twice before using force to remove him.

>>2563755
He wouldn't do shit since Zorhan is still a capitalist who has capitalist interest in his mind.

>>2563231
Be careful, people get banned for saying that sort of thing here. The mantra on this form is that Anti-imperialism is a code word for anti-white.

>>2563713
maybe because you guys derailed the thread for 18 of the last 24 hours every time I said the American proletariat should attacking their ruling class, you guys showed up and said it was impossible.


>>2563539
Lenin was organizing inside a conscript military in a country that wasn't imperialist but let's ignore that and kowtow to baby killing freaks.

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Miga

>>2563758
This site has gone far right and bans every genuine Marxist leninist while it protects freaks like CPUSAnon who is an explicit and admitted imperialist who just wants a better standard of living for himself and his family at any cost.

>>2563758
The farthest left posters here are social fascists who want to perfect imperialism so it can continue to rule, and provide them with a high standard of living, forever. absolutely none of them are serious about seeing change in their lifetimes. You shouldn't be surprised when right wingers hold right wing views.

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BREAKING NEWS: TRUMP DEMANDS FULL EPSTEIN FILE RELEASE “I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE”

<US President Donald Trump is pushing House Republicans to vote for the full release of all remaining Epstein documents and says he has nothing to hide


<The House will vote this week and the pressure around the issue grows fast


<Last week lawmakers released tens of thousands of pages on Epstein where Trump appeared more than a thousand times


<Trump’s opponents claim he is trying to control the release to protect himself but Trump rejects this completely


<Trump says he wants full transparency and insists every document can be made public


<The upcoming vote may trigger a new wave of revelations and push political tensions to the limit


It’s happening!

>>2563764
so all that shitting on mtg, for what?

>>2563764
He got the FBI to destroy the documents related to him.

>>2563764
>>2563766
i think that any other mention of him in the files is as nebulous as what we've seen in the emails. he realized that there was virtually no consequence for the emails, so now he's saying fuck it. might as well rip the band aid off. release em, get the shock over with. people will forget withing a week because 'eh the billionaire president is a pedophile rapist we kinda already knew that of him and all other politicians and financial elites what are you gonna do'
it's normal. it's background noise.

>>2563761
>bans every genuine Marxist leninist
third worldists are not ML, they are weird BIPOC fetishists
>>2563762
third world ethnonationalism isn't far left

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>>2563775
The CCP stands for free trade and reaganomics now 😎

>>2563758
The imperialists are the ones who derail. Not one day without an imperialist crying about "third worldists." The imperialists say routinely that americans arent imperialist, third worldism isnt Communist, americans are not all oppressors and exploiters, and that making imperialists' lives materially worse isnt Communism. The imperialists say all of these things constantly forcing our hands upon them.

You say americans should attack their ruling class. Only an imperialist would think this novel idea. Why arent these imperialists attacking ruling class? Why are the imperialists devoting hours every day to defying Lenin?

>>2563718
>The gender shit, I don’t won’t to get to deep into it. I think we’re in some awkward growing pains in the beginning of a post-patriarchal, post-racial world
>post-patriarchal
Men hold a monopoly of violence everytime. There won't be a post-patriarchal society. More like evolved patriarchy past capitalism

>>2563761
>ultra
grab a flag so we can filter you.

For my own curiosity, which party do you participate in?

>>2563652
The article is right but it's worded wrong. Men are retarded and they want you to be their mother. Not to say that this isn't also applicable to women in its inverse but I'd argue it's less frequent and done in a way that is a more even transaction.

>>2563781
i'd like to let you know of a little-known invention called a 'Firearm'….

>>2563713
> Lenin said imperialists living standard should go down. Lenin said all americans are oppressors and imperialist.
genuinely when did he say that

>>2563827
He didn't, Evan just likes to make shit up

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>>2563761
I like how upset Cpusanon makes you

>>2563780
truth nuke

>>2563780
>third worldism isnt Communist
Nailed it on the head

>>2563709
lol seething

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