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>>2562035Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchetSo what are the best treats? Asking since I might end up a tourist in burgerland. I heard that something callad a Baja Blast is a good treat. What other treats should I put on my Adolf Treatler list?
>>2563208Dubai Chocolate and Labubus
They say a man's role is to provide, sure. But capitalism twists this into a transaction, into something that's only quantifiable via direct financial success. I started this community pantry, and while I haven't been able to actually buy things for it, I am the person who sorts it, who organizes it, who puts out notices on what we have, what we need, what's being taken, what's not. Baby food actually getting taken? Might be worth letting people know someone needs that shit. Might be worth asking around, "Do you even have a stove to cook with?" when we realize we've got too many dry goods but the canned stuff gets taken right away.
The capitalist wants you to internalize a viewpoint wherein this sort of providership is invalid. After all, if you were "really getting it," you'd be the one just buying the formula. It wouldn't be a community pantry then; it would be a transaction. You're just doing charity at best, sugaring at worst. What feels better: dropping $300 on a dinner date to flex for some chick who ain't really even like ya as a person, or making sure people you actually know are having their needs taken care of?
The money trap is just that — a trap — and it's taken me a lot to start realizing that. When you're so focused on money as the measure of your personal value, you lose sight of the real ways you can provide, the real work it takes to build. You get blinded by the capitalist framework. Your value cannot be reduced down to a number; a real community is too interdependent for that. It took a lot of pillars to support the Parthenon. One pillar might be strong, might hold up one section, but if it was the only pillar? Homie, that roof is collapsing, no matter the strength.
That's why mutual aid is so powerful. You're building pillars of support in a way that the capitalist simply cannot comprehend. I'm gonna keep it a buck: I'm really not trying to be out here debating for YouTube views, or trying to finesse the algo to get that newest video posted, or see how many upvotes we can get on some Twitter-bait shitpost. I'm trying to be out here doing the damn thing. They know me, they know the clout, they know the score, but the visitor count, the readership, the audience, the notoriety, the "dirtbag leftism" ain't shit to me — ain't mean nothing if we ain't here doing the work.
Breaking down the real chains. Carrying the heavy loads. Having the hard conversations. Connecting the networks. Going to the masses. There's work to be done that must be done and will be done, and that work ain't just wage-slavery trap-house cooking in whatever kitchen — back of house, back of the alley, chicken or crack — selling and moving the money around. It only matters if you're building something bigger than yourself, something truly revolutionary.
It's about sowing the fields that the spark can catch ablaze. A single spark can start a prairie fire, but comrades, we have nothing here but concrete caskets and a bleak, overwhelming sense of alienation. Time to break down the concrete. Time to be a pillar. Time to sow the fields. That's the new energy. The grind continues, transmuted into revolutionary moxie.
—Erik Houdini
>>2563216>>2563216>Uhh after that I would just visit our best national parks in the West of the country. Utah, Arizona, California, Yellowstone, etc. Other than that it's kinda garbage.I personally been to and would recommend:
>Redwood>Yosemite>Bryce>Arches>Zion>Grand Canyon>SedonaI haven't been to Yellowstone yet. But all of those I listed are world-class kinda nature that's definitely in the top worldwide I think.
Israel has always been the strongest TW soldier at least they finally now admit it
>>2563219American workers must fight American imperialism whether or not they truly "benefit" from it, because the long term survival of the world depends on it, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Telling American workers that they are hopeless and nothing can be expected of them other than the destruction of the planet is nihilistic and counter revolutionary. This is the argument that was put forward in the last thread and it was relentlessly strawmanned over and over again, and then when this was pointed out, all sorts of deflections and denials were used.
In exchange for cheap banana and cheap iphone, whole world gets bombed, american workers get hated and treated as as equal to their bourgeoisie, even as american watches prisons get build at home and IDF train cops and infrastructure crumble in exchange for said "benefits" of cheap banana and iphone. american workers are fed up with it and we must fight american imperialism and not side with reformists who say put bandaid on capitalism for another 50 years.
>>2563219UN vote is not popular vote from american workers, but admission from american ruling class that they will put third world workers against american workers by doing imperialism
>"benefit"
🤣 Scare quoting bitch
>>2563217 (You) (me)
>>2563164 Like this is what I’m talking about
>when you live on land taken from people your ancestors killed,
>The oppression of third world countries and their vassal states provides benefits to everyone in the Amerikkkan empire,Because Native Americans are still alive today and live in the American empire these two statements contradict each other. Do Native Americans also benefit from imperialism, or do they not? Why does everyone on both sides act like natives are extinct?
Not trying to take sides here, just clarifying what the sides even are.
>>2563230>1954This is a position he abandoned later after he became an actual revolutionary. Around the time he wrote this he was still a follower of Arbenz, ie a social democrat. His later statements on this issue (as a Marxist revolutionary) show the exact opposite opinion.
>>2563230here is something else che also said:
I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all. You live in the belly of the beast.
— Dr. Ernesto “Che” Guevara
which is what I am saying. american workers MUST oppose imperialism rather than listen to third worldists and conclude that they benefit from it and should therefore side with american ruling class and destroy the planet. american worker MUST oppose nato and israel, not to redeem themselves morally, but to literally give humanity a future.
If you're from Europe, you won't be impressed by any city in America. NYC maybe as a novelty. But you could go to London for cheaper for the same garbage feel.
>>2563237whether or not benefit is real, american MUST fight american ruling class, who hold whole world hostage
if BurgerWorker.benefitFromImperialism() = true
{
BurgerWorker.becomeclasstraitor()
}
if BurgerWorker.benefitFromImperialism() = false
{
BurgerWorker.fightBurgerImperialism()
}
>>2563238Please respond to what I am saying!!!!!!
>>2563223I don't really like talking to people or forming many connections, I also don't like physical labour, I would rather make money in my bullshit job and leverage it to get what I really want in life, the more money you have the less of a social life you can have and still be considered as 'normal' enough for women to like you and fuck you.
what socialists don't want to admit is how many people are like this, most people don't want to go out, they want to stay in the house, have sex in the house, eat food in the house, not form big kumbaya communities.
when a man makes enough money to get out their moms basement, the first thing they do is dump all their friends and focus on having sex with their girlfriend, no one who has enough money to live comfortably wants to agitate, activism is for people are too broke to hide in their cave, have sex, eat doordash and watch netflix.
>>2563239>>2563244i was thinking about visiting some nice little towns like in this gordon ramsay episode
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C7lNUSBhIFc>leafy autumn feelz>choo choo trains>lush forests, hills>crazy ass hoarder ladiesAny other towns like this?
>>2563239>cool historical shit from early settlements like JamestownThat Jamestown live reenactment place was always my favorite place on my East Coast exursions tho. Good call.
>>2563251I've never really been to New England. Only to Boston, so yeah I guess New England is the place for you.
>>2563242>What other cities are even worth mentioning?Baltimore, Charleston. Maybe Miami
>>2563250if this nihilistic attitude were remotely true people in relationships wouldn't seek friendships and start families
>>2563227israel lobby DRAIN burger reich nut for gazacide, so burger reich cannot shoot rope on other country, big true
>>2563256the friendships and the families are to salvage the dying relationship
>>2563241you must oppose it, yes, this doesnt mean you dont benefit from it, or at least you did in the past when the empire was on the rise
>>2563238PLEASE. RESPOND. TO. WHAT. I. AM. SAYING.
>>2563240did he ever say "yeah im sure burger proles will join us very soon :)"? I dont think so
>>2563241Nah see the usual response is “that’s not what we mean, we never said that” while continuing to never elaborate what they do mean; which is that you should slave away for a movement that will not just not benefit you, but will actively attempt to make your life worse, in the name of “redemption” when you can just… not.
>>2563260There are very bad parts of Baltimore, there's no doubt about that, but it's a pretty city with a nice historical district has gotten a lot better in recent years. Very common story for a lot of american cities actually, the place felt a lot like New Orleans
>>2563267He literally said he envied them and that they had the most important role in the class struggle.
>>2563261that's literally what I said the entire last thread. I said burgers no longer benefit from imperialism, because burger reich is privatizing, deregulating, outsourcing, building more prisons, building less schools, defunding education, defunding health care, letting infrastructure crumble, all while committing more and more resources to forever wars. i said americans are fed up with this and should stop this and then I was strawmanned and caricatured and told that actually americans will benefit even if the planet is destroyed. i was also told by reformists that I was third worldists, and told by third worldists i was a reformist. because to a third worldist, if I don't buy into the narrative that i get a pony every time a child is killed by a roided up troop, i must be telling people to vote platner, and to a reformist, if I don't buy into the latest round of succdem bullshit, I must be a bad empanada shill.
I'm sick of it!
If Marx was alive today he would wear hipster glasses and write his famous book Das Treat and he would start this time with theories of surplus value treat-u, or maybe bubu.
His preparatory work wouldn't be called Grundrisse but Ground Rice.
Engels - Socialism: Treatlerite and Scientific
Lenin: What is to be Snacked
Mao's Little Red Treat
>>2563233lenin told westoids what to do more than 100 years ago yet they refuse to do anything except voooting for this rulling class that doesnt repressent them at all according to you, sounds very sus at the very least
Holy shit. I’ve said it multiple times, and I’ll keep saying until someone finally gives me some fucking clarification. It seems like there are three sides to this discourse, one which claims that all Americans don’t benefit from imperialism, one that claims all do benefit from imperialism including Native Americans, and a third that says that all Americans do and that Native Americans don’t exist anymore, and a fourth that says that all do besides Native (and Black) Americans. It’s impossible to actually have this discussion if people aren’t acknowledging who believes what and how their beliefs differ from each other, especially when the first position I outlined tries to argue against all three of the other positions at the same time.
>>2563273Thats not the same as being optimistic about them actually doing something, he is just correctly poiting out that they should.
>>2563278FUCKING RESPOND TO ME GODAMNIT!!!!
>>2563282They aren't rising up in the third world either so its a most point. The strongest communist parties (apart from ruling ones that came to power like 80 years ago) in the third world are at best as strong as Western Euro communists in the postwar era.
>>2563278If you buy an item in the US you benefit from imperialism. You don't even need to be an American, you can be a tourist. You can be homeless, female, lesbian, black. Doesn't matter.
>>2563278You’re arguing beliefs with people who are just nihilists man. Like you’ll get a guy who beats their wife and kids but if they talk about doing anything about it or leaving they’ll just say “but we’re a FAMILY” as if that means anything. They’re invoking internationalism and imperialism as a cudgel, not an actual belief system.
I know you want answers but they won’t give them to you because they fundamentally want to hide their position, anger people, then accuse those people of being fascists so they can act morally superior.
>>2563278 and
>>2563283 are both me, in case that wasn’t clear
>>2563286Are you saying they intentionally change their position depending on who they’re arguing with in order to deflect, and that’s why it seems confusing?
>>2563285Which of the four positions I outlined would you say you are?
>>2563289 (me)
Sorry for crashing out and typing in all caps btw
>Kazakhstan celebrates Thanksgiving
That's hilarious why didn't anyone tell me that
>>2563278I grew up in the black belt and the other person who runs my magazine with me is a native american woman. Our line is essentially that 'America' as a nation state, as it currently exists, is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, and exists to faciliate resource extraction and economic consumption that, ultimately only benefits the capitalist class. There is no legitimate representation within Amerika because Amerika is a neocolony of internationalist capital. The American revolution was a war over which faction of the bourgeoisie (European, or Settler) would control the economic resources of the colonies. WW2 cemented this control. But the classes that maintain control over this region are internationalist. The capitalist is not bound to nationality in the way the working class is.
>A state can be said to be a neo-colonialist or client state if it is independent de jure and dependent de facto. It is a state where political power lies in the conservative forces of the former colony and where economic power remains under the control of international finance capital. Kwame Nkrumah, "Sham independence," Handbook of Revolutionary Warfare (1968), p. 8
The three essential components of neo-colonialism are:
1. Economic exploitation
2. Puppet governments and client states
3. Military assistance
4. Economic "aid."
Kwame Nkrumah, Handbook of Revolutionary Warfare (1968), p. 15
>>2563277i sound very sus because i say american workers should fight their own ruling class and stop bombing the whole world and i agree with lenin?
>According to new data from the online reservation service company Resy, 90% of Gen Z diners say they enjoy communal tables, compared to just 60% of boomers, highlighting a generational revival of one of the restaurant world's most polarizing trends: seating multiple groups of diners together at large banquet tables.
>>2563284>They aren't rising up in the third world either so its a most pointJust because in this exact second there arent multiple communist revolutions happening in the third world doesnt erase the fact that there have been in the last 100 years way more attemps there than in treatlerite countries. Material explanation for this?
No one is responding to what I’m saying, wtf. I’m saying that there actually four different positions that people are arguing for, as I outlined here>>2563278, but no one is acknowledging that, and instead is conflating who believes what and trying argue against everything at the same time. I’m not trying to take sides, I’m just trying to get everyone to acknowledge what the parameters even are.
How can I best help destroy America?
>>2563259have you ever helped someone even when it didn't directly benefit you because you cared about them?
>>2563302>How can I best help destroy America?obviously by telling american workers that they benefit from american imperialism and that their destiny is to team up with their ruling class to destroy the planet. definitely do not, under any circumstances, tell them that they should oppose their ruling class and dismantle their government. that would be treatlerism.
>>2563285what if you import stuff from america? does that mean you benefit from imperialism? If china buys burger soybeans does that mean they benefit from burger imperialism? this argument seems flawed for multiple reasons.
>>2563297>Just because in this exact second There hasn't been a successful socialist revolution in the third world for like 40 years Anon. This isn't a short term lull but a long term decline in the power of the socialist movement since 1991. Meanwhile people had already begun to declare revolution in the first world impossible in the 1970s even though by that point communist parties still commanded levels of support in some Western countries that far surpasses what they enjoy in most of of the third world today.
>>2563278 (me)
Someone please respond to this, and at least acknowledge that the four positions are different from each other and shouldn’t be conflated like they are being right now.
If we know the capitalist class does not operate on national lines, then the question should be: How do we build a transnational solidarity of the working class and oppressed nations that can effectively challenge a transnational capitalist class?
>>2563309>communist parties still commanded levels of support in some Western countriesRevolution lead by those parties status?
>>2563312the actual correct opinion unironically
>>2563316You're missing the point Anon. If a few decades of no revolution in the West is enough to declare first world revolution dead, then enough time has passed for the same to be said of the third world.
>>2563208If you want a good burger look for the greasiest hole in the wall.
>>2563315We could build a co-op franchise, we can create a socialist mode of production but instead of a nation you’ll be a co-owner in a international mega co-op. Just abandon the state model entirely and adopt the corporate structure and then start dissolving nation states from the inside as giant capitalist firms do now.
If you want good
>>2563308>What's wholesale vs retailIn any case, for sure the Chinese consumer benefits from burger soy being grown with underpaid immigrant labor in the US, but that's beside the point since on a national level China is still importing more capital than exporting, although it is on the verge of overcoming this, but it's financial sector is still miniscule compared to the US and it's IMF, etc.
The US indebts entire countries and you get cheap shit in return.
>>2563309>What happened to the Naxals?!America.
>>2563318its not a time thing, if anything third worldists were more correct in the 70s than right now, the empire is on decline and the treats are running out
>>2563325Man it’s almost like there’s a falling rate of profit and imperialism can only delay this and the ruling class will inevitably have to reckon with angry mob.
>>2563326yeah i always eat home cooked meals
>>2563325>its not a time thingExplain how it's different.
You’re asking for definitions and shit, but Third Worldists don’t give a fuck about that. They don’t have a real position. They just hate Americans or westerners and are completely arbitrary in how they use terms. Think the /pol/ psychos that call Bezos a Jew despite not being one. You’re trying to reason and discuss terms with someone who just wants to entertain themselves by being a dick and masking it as an actual ideology. Much like a corpo invoking “family” to ruthlessly exploit his employees.
>>2563293thats not what you said in the post that I replied to, dont try to use your yakubian tricknology on me, w*stoid
>>2563330woke cinephile Pope? based??
>>2563333it is what i've been saying all day in the previous thread and this one
>>2563331I have a feeling they're stuck in the previous unipolar period mindset and haven't internalized the multipolar reality yet
>>2563341Pope Leo to declare a people's inquisition against the SiliKKKon Reich Nvidia money laundering scam
>>2563329third world countries arent doing revolutions because of years of shock treatment, treatlerites didnt do revolution because of labor aristocracy, that might change because of
>>2563327 you need a party and all that tho, good luck
>>2563338but not the post I was replying to
you think people can see your face attached to every post you make? I only see anons and some n*mefags
>>2563335Americans really don't know what it will be like to be a conquered people, lol.
I'm glad I have a masters degree in a STEM field to be mostly safe from this.
Americans will be fully conquered and working the 996 with zero chance of rebellion. China will do imperialism to the rest of the world and mainlanders will live in luxury and 20-30 hour works weeks while the rest of the world slaves away for them.
>>2563331>>2563332Thank you for responding to the substance of what I said and clarifying things, I appreciate it and it makes me feel better!
>>2563359I refuse to work more than 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Regardless of it's for capitalists or communists.
I'll work hard when the financial or social elite work hard.
>>2563250This sounds like you're projecting your lifestyle-isms onto everyone. Even after a hard day at work, I still have the energy to go outside because I don't like being stuck at home all day.
I like being physically active and if I have to stay home for majority of my free time with a girl who's a homebody, I'd quickly end the relationship. I like using my money to go out and skateboard different areas, or when I'm not, I use to the money to buy a twelve pack and chill by the beach all night.
>>2563356>>2563352or maybe, just maybe, China is acting in their own interests to develop their own productive forces and doesn't care that much about the west one way or the other. maybe the west is not the center of world history… woag
>>2563367Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC? We are never seeing true liberation for labor in our lifetimes. Fuck working hard for people who don't give a single fuck about you.
If that means illegally immigrating to some nation, living off the grid, or whatever it takes to avoid being a wageslave, so be it. Only fools accept the lot they've been given in life. If you're born poor, you have an obligation to escape slavery, even at the risk of death.
In absence of a real worker's revolution that allows the working class to benefit from the immense increase in productivity via technology, depriving the world of your labor is the most revolutionary act you can achieve.
Ratmaxx or suffer a fate worse than death.
>>2563363She and her party should "lose" more than just an election though
>>2563378>We are never seeing true liberation for labor in our lifetimesOk nihilist isn't it almost your bedtime
>>2563378>>2563352It would be funny if the imperial torch gets passed to china and they become the new treatlers. This just keeps happening to global revolution as the bourgeoisie will just keep moving the center of capital.
>>2563378Idiot individualist.
>>2563384It's been happening since the beginning. The parasites in russia, england, germany, japan went over to america and rode to the top. They'll flee to russia or china or back to europe when it becomes convenient. Only a truly global worker's revolution can stop this.
>>2563385Have fun dying in an assembly line having never spent your one life on your own happiness. A true cuck, you are. You live and die for some company's bottom line. Pathetic creature.
>>2563378>Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC? calm down big boss
>>2563387>Happiness in asocial seclusion.>Partaking in societal reproduction is actually le bad.Yawn. You built your worldview around your psychological problems. Also, you don't get to lecture us about worker's revolution when you despise work and think workers are dupes.
Hypocritical, nihilistic, depressed, obnoxious.
>>2563387you're still a wage slave even if you have a gilded cage. if you're gonna go down this line of thinking your goal should be to survive working less than full-time, build networks of mutual aid and start doing communization. becoming part of the PMC is just striver bullshit that isn't even applicable to most people's lives these days since labor aristocracy upwards social mobility is basically a thing of the past.
>>2563396>umm you NEED to work 50 hours a week or more to be happy>you NEED to rent from the land we violently seized or else we'll throw you in hecking jail!Nah, I just won't play your retarded game. If you want people to participate, build a society worth living in first.
Animals don't pay rent. The vast majority of humans in history never had to do so either.
>>2563400>do all the work for me before I participateentitled much
>>2563358Anytime. Trust me I was frustrated with Third Worldists nonsense too. Just don’t engage you’ll be doing yourself a world of good.
Is there seriously advocation for wage slavery in the thread now?
>>2563382pessimism =/= nihilism
pessimism often comes from a very moralistic point of view
>>2563400Wild animals don't pay "rent" but they are constantly fighting, running and hiding from other animals while struggling with the elements. That's essentially primitive labor.
>>2563410They own their own labor at least. The short and brutal life of an animal in the jungle is far more honorable than the slow, prolonged death in servitude to a labor master.
>>2563414I had almost posted exactly this sort of take but I figured that it's not even worth the effort since most of the morons who post in /USApol/ are too bluepilled on doomer idealism to remember that we are in fact supposed to all be communists here and therefore understand that history can be understood in scientific terms as functioning in certain ways and having certain properties. unless the CCP is stupid or actually has lost its way and become communist in name only, I don't expect they would choose to put themselves down the line in the same situation the west is currently in when they seem to be doing extremely well developing their productive forces without relying on imperialism.
>>2563362Shouldn’t it be a horse penis?
>>2563412Neither is honorable in my opinion. Nature is shitty I think humans try to correct it but we still do a shitty job at it. It all feels pointless but we'll keep trying because why not.
>>2563426yes and I also should have clarified, america repeated
some of the mistakes of the dutch and british, while still doing other things differently, and so there is an extent to which even within capitalist hegemony, the same forms of decline are managed differently.
>>2563440Pretty sure the early post-WW2 years involved America supporting corporate colonialism over the old “plant a flag and conquer the country” kind that Europe still wanted to practice.
>>2563441the main difference is that US imperialist strategy in the 20th century was to abandon the 19th century model of having a puppet state colony that is managed by imperial core bureaucrats while exerting control through either indirect means (making the US dollar the reserve currency) or if a country wanted to not be dependent on trade with the US they would either get regime-changed by covert CIA shit like Gladio and the Contras or they'd get embargoed into oblivion. but it still has the same form of imperialism via different means.
>>2563451s/while exerting control/
by exerting control/
>>2563412>The short and brutal life of an animal in the jungle is far more honorable than the slow, prolonged death in servitude to a labor master.think most humans disagree with this, which is why most humans do not commit suicide even when forced into slavery. One of the world's biggest religions, Islam, literally frames itself as servitude to God. I think the nature of servitude is such that the quality of servitude matters more than the general fact of it. People can tolerate servitude of a certain quality without killing themselves.
This is why equal obligation of all to labor for the classless society under communism is superior to laboring for private owner of capital, which is superior to laboring for a feudal lord, which is superior to laboring for a slave master. The freedom and life of the preyed-upon animal is short and brutish, even when compared to that of the human in servitude. to toil naked for subsistence while exposed to the elements, and to get preyed upon at any moment, is, I think, a terrible existence, that is only made better by the relative lack of self awareness.
>>2563451did you mean to compare 21st century with 20th and say 20th and 19th by accident? 19th century american imperialism was to directly force markets to open with gunboat diplomacy.
>>2563362i like how the cum puts out his lightsaber like it's a torch
>>2563238Benefit? I guess it depends on how you look at it. Here's one perspective…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVANRroxuOo The context of failed socialism remark is mocking their definition of it and anger over the bia, among other things. You tell me if this is being a beneficiary of imperialism.
unlimited, dogmatic, zealot-like support to the JDPON in the age of the darkest reaction
>>2563275I wonder if pic related is the thought behind the CPC members when a war breaks out between the U.S. and China and China is lobbing out nukes on the U.S. mainland.
>>2563450Nobody spat on him for being Christian?
>>2563471>implying Israel isn't homophobic and racistAside from the more obvious things.
>>2563459disregard that I suck cocks the point I was trying to make is that the dominant form of imperialism as the highest stage of capitalism transitioned in the 20th century from a European model to an American one where instead of directly conquering and managing the colonies as Europe did, the US was able to step in after Europe lost its empires and perfect its more indirect strategy of forced trade. which is ultimately how we ended up with neoliberalism, with lots of CIA shenanigans along the way
>>2563472They were unsure to spit on him for being Christian or for being black. In their confusion they forgot to spit on him
Venezuela Symbolizes for the U.S. What Palestine Does for Israelhttps://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/11/venezuela-symbolizes-for-the-u-s-what-palestine-does-for-israel.html
>There is no legitimate justification for U.S. aggression against Venezuela. But there is a powerful symbolism. The ideological currents driving this aggression are the same ones that drive Israel’s actions in Palestine.
>The U.S. is acting with complete disregard for any notion of international law. That was tacitly recognized by Marco Rubio when he said, after the G7 meeting in Canada: “I don’t think that the European Union gets to determine what international law is, and what they certainly don’t get to determine is how the United States defends its national security.”
>Rubio was responding to a question raised by a Kaja Kallas, vice president of the European Commission, who had expressed doubts that U.S. attacks in the Caribbean were either self-defense or based on a U.N. mandate. Rubio added: “The United States is under attack from organized criminal narco-terrorists in our hemisphere, and the President is responding in the defense of our country.”
>I do think that Trump and parts of his administration genuinely believe they are at war with drug cartels. Thomas Neuburger, commenting on a Michael Wolff post on how Trump arrives at his “facts,” which are often distorted if not outright wrong, describes it like this:
>“A man wakes up, maniacally searches the news for what involves him — which is just about everything now — then maniacally seeks from his staff how to digest all that in a way that makes him look good, or at least makes his foes look bad. When he gets what he wants, stories that make him feel good — it’s all about feelings, it seems — he stores their spin and later repeats what he hears, happy to show he’s right.”
>Some variation of that seems probable. The information loop feeds on itself and reinforces the same discourse. However, it is naive to believe that the entire foreign policy of the country, and specifically in Latin America, hinges on the president’s personal ideas. That is highly improbable. In Rubio’s answer, we have a clue as to where the real foundations lie.
>Rubio says “our hemisphere” — almost certainly not a slip of the tongue, but an expression of what he really believes. He is part of a U.S. political class that operates under the ideological assumption that the United States has a right — almost a divine right — over what it considers its sphere of influence, “our hemisphere.” That is why “Europe does not determine what international law is.” How could they — those whom we basically rule — tell us what to do?
>That is also why the U.S. claims a right to topple governments and meddle in the internal affairs of other countries, especially in the Americas, to promote its own interests. Rubio represents the bipartisan consensus that emerged from the hegemonic era of U.S. primacy.
>However hawkish, he still dresses his position in the language of democracy promotion and freedom, which serves to mask the appropriation of resources. His agenda against Venezuela is dominated by ideological anti-communism. For him, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Cuba are “enemies of humanity.”
>But to think that U.S. foreign policy is still primarily driven by anti-communist propaganda is to cling to a paradigm that is already over. Other powerful currents are now moving the surface waters — currents that do not seek to build a bipartisan consensus but to do away with the need for one altogether. As Katherine Stewart puts it, this movement “isn’t looking for a seat at the noisy table of American democracy; it wants to burn down the house.”
>This is the ideological current that Vice President J.D. Vance represents: the National Conservatism movement, which seeks to reshape the U.S. according to Yoram Hazony’s idea of Israel. Hazony is the chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation, whose stated aim is to promote the ideology of national conservatism and which organizes the NatCon conferences. Vance has attended and delivered key speeches at NatCon and declares himself an admirer of Hazony.
>Hazony rejects liberalism as a rationalist “system of dogmas” and instead grounds political legitimacy in “God, the Hebrew Bible, family, and the independent nation state.” In his view, nations are not based on liberal principles of consent and universal equality, but on divine covenant and inherited obligations within a particular group. This provides the justification for an ethnostate such as the one he defends in Israel, in which the idea of the nation is tied to a specific people whose interests stand above all others, unconstrained by international law or minority protections.
>The bridge between Hazony’s Israel and Trump’s America runs through Christian nationalism and the National Conservatism movement. He cofunded the Edmund Burke Foundation with David Brog, former executive director of Christians United for Israel. J.D. Vance, Trump’s vice president, openly cites Hazony as a key intellectual influence and describes Israel as an “island of shared values,” presenting it as a moral model rather than merely a strategic ally.
>Christian nationalists — 80 percent of white evangelicals Christians voted for Trump — share the myth that the United States was founded as a Christian nation and believe that legitimate government rests not on the consent of the governed but on adherence to a particular definition of a religious and cultural heritage. This mirrors Hazony’s logic: if Israel is the God-given home of the Jews, America can be imagined as the God-given home of white Christians.
>Peter Thiel emerges as a central figure here: financier of National Conservatism, mentor and patron of Vance, investor in surveillance and defense technologies, and architect of an alliance between neo-nationalists, tech oligarchs, and the military-industrial complex. Through this network, ideas first articulated in the Israeli context — biblical nationalism, siege mentality, the fusion of religion and force — are translated into a U.S. setting.
>Thiel uses Hazony’s ideological biblical framework and the showcase of National Conservatism as a political vehicle for his own vision: an alliance between “Judeo-Christian” nationalism and a technocratic-oligarchic power capable of redesigning the Western political order in a more authoritarian, illiberal, and security-oriented way. He has famously stated that he does not believe that democracy and freedom are compatible.
>The American “experiment” as an Enlightenment, secular, rights-based republic is being reinterpreted and hollowed out in favor of a Hazony-style model: a state defined by “Judeo-Christian” identity, suspicious of universal rights, hostile to international constraints, and increasingly comfortable with oligarchic, techno-authoritarian power.
>Israel, as Hazony imagines it and as its most illiberal practices are admired abroad, becomes both mirror and blueprint for the direction in which Vance, Thiel, and their allies wish to push the United States. This is the symbolic function that aggression against Venezuela serves.
>For Israel, the war that began in Gaza has been a way of signaling to the world that it no longer cares to abide by any kind of international law. In pursuing its ideological and strategic interests — however they are defined — and in promoting a Jewish ethnostate, it presents itself as unconstrained by any definition of law other than its own.
>Those who support Israel because they think it represents a Western liberal democracy in the Middle East have completely misunderstood the meaning of this “eight-front war.” “Greater Israel” is not just a geographical concept; it is the epitome of Hazony’s ethnostate. That is what Netanyahu meant by “changing the face of the Middle East.” It’s the end of the liberal state and the real expression of “Israel first.”
>U.S. aggression against Venezuela should be read in the same light. The complete absence of any legitimate justification is itself a signal to the world of the ideological shift the U.S. is undergoing. It is announcing that it will no longer be constrained by the nuances of liberal principles such as democracy or universal human rights, or by the international system built on them. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, put it succinctly: “This kind of behavior is more typical of those who consider themselves above the law.” >>2563474I see, makes sense
>>2563483they're both pedophiles so it's not a surprise
>>2563461the AOC regime should implement a sweeping criminalization of wojaks that is retroactive
the more wojaks you've posted the worse your punishment is
less than 10 = small fine and verbal warning
100+ = death penalty
>>2563518Yeah organizing within the military was explicitly a focus with Leninists. There were numerous naval mutinities in the 1920s/1930s with communists involved including the Royal Navy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invergordon_mutiny^ Scroll down to the last paragraph in that and look at who led it.
>>2563524Both are also implicated in a gay blowjob scandal
>>2563471Its one thing to be homophobic and racist if you grow up poor. Thats excusable. Kirk is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, likely never saw a black person for the first 20 years of his life, but he constantly harped about black criminality as if he lived in Oblock
>>2563471Inasmuch as he deserved it, it’s for being a mouthpiece for capitalism and racism and actively trying to foment those attitudes. Palestinians being broadly conservative in their culture doesn’t mean they deserve to be exterminated.
>>2563208depending on the state we got dutch tier smoke shops
>>2563588Brandon do be loving his ice cream
>>2563591Bubba's Love Sponges
trump is now calling for the release of the epstein files. think the poll numbers got to him? what will be the catch?
>>2563608Is he still talking about selectively going after enemies? Cos if there's an ongoing investigation they can't release them, like they couldn't when comey's daughter was doing the investigation.
>>2563608>trump is now calling for the release of the epstein files. think the poll numbers got to him? what will be the catch?The catch is the same as with "Fake News". They'll get people used to the idea that one can just lie about things with impunity and, truthiness relativized only the culture war investment remains.
So after a couple of rounds of mudslinging each other selectively implying and releasing tangential materials, the public will learn that attitude and understand that Epstein does not disqualify their pedo rulers as a whole and there is no knowable truth. Only ammo for the culture war.
>>2563611Trump Says House Republicans Should Vote to Release Epstein FilesPresident Trump on Sunday urged House Republicans to back a measure that would compel the Justice Department to release the Epstein files, a sharp reversal from his previous stance after days of pressure from his party.
Mr. Trump said on social media that House Republicans should vote to release the files “because we have nothing to hide.”
“It’s time to move on from this Democrat Hoax perpetrated by Radical Left Lunatics in order to deflect from the Great Success of the Republican Party, including our recent Victory on the Democrat ‘Shutdown,’” he wrote.
In a Sunday interview on ABC News, Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky, who has helped lead congressional efforts to release the files, suggested that “100 or more” House Republicans could vote in favor of releasing the Epstein files this week despite opposition from Mr. Trump. The House speaker also predicted a significant number of G.O.P. votes.
Speaker Mike Johnson said last week he would move up the timeline for a vote on the bill to this week, and told “Fox News Sunday” that the House just needed to “get this done and move it on.” He added in a similar vein to Mr. Trump, “There’s nothing to hide.”
>>2563608they will release a bunch of redacted crap and/or insignificant fluff like last time.
>>2563617Heh, looks like they had enough votes to override him so he did a taco. I expect it'll be heavily redacted, at least if there are any court docs with witness testimony. After what they did to suppress it I figure the damage is done.
Damn, apparently an ICE raid hit my city last night that got like 150 people in one spot. PSL's going out there tomorrow to protest, but I wonder if that'll draw anyone in
>>2563621what if you stopped shilling imperialist hitlerites just because they are correct on one or two issues?
what if you fucked off to /isg/ like we have told you a thousand times?
>>2563621I'm sure there's no correlation between this board being overrun with people like you, whom should be shot in the head and left in an unmarked grave for being fascist scum, and the fact that every thread on this board is about absolute nonsense and no organizational tactics are ever actually discussed.
Nick Fuentes deserves to die and hopefully someone does just that real soon.
>>2563646Okay, this draft has input from Blondie who covered for ep b4. It names 'various dem operatives' they are 'looking into' and says house oversight can have what's left. It's still a coverup since evidence in an investigation can't be released to the public. Again, this is why nothing could be released before the comey daughter was fired. She was leading the investigation.
>>2563631This, I take third worldist over Fuentes posters. Who gives a fuck about Mexican gay Hitler. He’s just another mutant born of the trump era and his power comes from paying attention to him.
>>2563652
Well shit, woke really is back.
>>2563655>>2563648Didn't they already catch that Project Veritas guy on video saying that they were delaying the files so they could edit them? No way this shit isn't completely forged
>>2563652
this is a men as a class of people being shit problem not an america problem
>>2563665Sorry m8 but everywhere else in the world supporting your significant other emotionally is a basic part of being a relationship. Only burgers have the terminal bourgeois brain where this is considered a transaction and "unpaid work".
Marxist prediction on Epstein file release bros?
>>2563663Idk, last I heard of that guy he was doing acorn videos.
Since doj edited the missing minutes from the video where they killed him I'm sure they're destroying what they can. The raid on Little St James was where some of it disappeared but they can't be sure of wherher facsimiles exists or not.
>>2563652
chatgpt, generate 15 compound-word neologisms that frame basic aspects of life as "problematic" for my ragebait clickbait articles that I write for VICE
>>2563673
>it's very much a consequence of "late-stage capitalism" as redditors would call it to view basic relationship dynamics based on a profit-focused mindset
For real, "emotionally supporting my boyfriend is unpaid labour!" is a reflection of exactly the same mindset you hear from manosphere dickheads about how women with kids or a high body count are "low value." This is just the bourgeois feminist expression of same way of thinking as opposed to the misogynist expression you hear from Andrew Tate and his ilk. People who think this way seem to be functionally incapable of actually loving somebody, which is meant to be something you do without the expectation of any reward apart from the presence and wellbeing of the person you love. These people think more like reptiles than human beings.
>>2563674Palestine knows too much.
>>2563652
Suddenly I'm glad I'm too awkward and autistic for a relationship.
Well that sounds wrong on my part because I'm sure not all women are insane neoliberals.
>>2563683It's because they're functionally incapable that they fall for culture war nonsense. War between the sexes was always the lowest hanging fruit.
>>2563671you're not wrong but the problem is that it's supposed to be a two-way street, but that's not how it works in practice with straight people. that's why the issue is specifically with men.
>>2563673that's actually pretty dead-on insofar as the basis of where I'm coming from is Silvia Federici's analysis of how capitalism created modern gender roles. the tl;dr is that following the primitive accumulation phase when capitalism developed into its 19th century industrial form, a problem had arisen where the proletariat was being worked too hard that they not only were cut off from the means of subsistence (i.e. the commons) but also becoming physically and emotionally incapable of taking care of themselves, much less take care of the next generation of workers. so it was necessary to make men the class of people who work 16 hours a day in a factory while women would do the unpaid work of raising children, cooking and cleaning, and generally providing for men.
at this stage in capitalism (in the west) there's not really any material need for any of this since women have by this point been largely assimilated into the workforce. this is why over time more women have acquired some degree of class consciousness (though it's been kept in check by liberal feminist postmodernism bullshit) as far as their status in patriarchy goes where there are all these vestigial expectations of women in straight relationships that they have to do various kinds of informal and unpaid labor that men are exempt from, like putting in the work to communicate one's emotional needs and whatnot in a relationship, to tie it back to the article in question.
all of this shit is always phrased in a shitlib wokescold sort of way that's intended to bait the opposition into becoming more reactionary (like what the responses ITT are) but there is a kernel of truth to it that has been obfuscated by decades of literal COINTELPRO activity that was done against the second wave feminist movement.
>>2563331Lenin was third worldist. Mao was third worldist. All Communist are third worldist. You defy Lenin so you are not a Communist.
<the industrial workers cannot accomplish their epoch-making mission of emancipating mankind from the yoke of capital and from wars if they confine themselves to their narrow craft, or trade interests, and smugly restrict themselves to attaining an improvement in their own conditions, which may sometimes be tolerable in the petty-bourgeois sense. This is exactly what happens to the “labour aristocracy” of many advanced countries, who constitute the core of the so-called socialist parties of the Second International; they are actually the bitter enemies and betrayers of socialism, petty-bourgeois chauvinists and agents of the bourgeoisie within the working-class movement.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jun/x01.htm<To tell the workers in the handful of rich countries where life is easier, thanks to imperialist pillage, that they must be afraid of 'too great' impoverishment, is counter-revolutionary. It is the reverse that they should be told. The labour aristocracy that is afraid of sacrifices, afraid of 'too great' impoverishment during the revolutionary struggle, cannot belong to the Party. Otherwise, the dictatorship is impossible, especially in West-European countries.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm<The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch08.htm>First, what is the cardinal idea underlying our theses? It is the distinction between oppressed and oppressor nations. Unlike the Second International and bourgeois democracy, we emphasise this distinction. In this age of imperialism, it is particularly important for the proletariat and the Communist International to establish the concrete economic facts and to proceed from concrete realities, not from abstract postulates, in all colonial and national problems.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/jul/x03.htm<300-400 million out of 1,600 are oppressorshttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/cw/pdf/lenin-cw-vol-39.pdf >>2563693>that's why the issue is specifically with menIs it though? I've heard of plenty of cases of men feeling unable to open up to their partners because the are with girls who essentially expect them to be emotionless robots who never feel scared, sad, or depressed. You could argue that this is also a result of internalized patriarchy on the part of these women and I'd be inclined to agree. However that's clearly an example of a feature of patriarchy being enforced by women in a way that hurts men. When it comes to this online discourse I've found that there is no shortage of mindless man-bashing in bourgeois feminist circles that eerily mirrors online misogyny in how willing it is to make sweeping assumptions about the internal lives and emotional states of half the population.
>>2563686good stuff lol
>>2563691I think it's lesbians or femcels listening to their coworkers complaining about their bf and taking the one sided conversation as gospel.
>>2563693>but that's not how it works in practice with straight people. that's why the issue is specifically with men.And how would you know that if you don't have relationships with men yourself?
What does the A1 say about propaganda and low hanging fruit?
Haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZ6q8nyPk0>>2563697it's complicated and impossible to concisely talk about on a place like leftypol where a lot of users have not read any feminist theory and still live in a post-gamergate siege mentality on the subject. but this is why I said "as a class", because the class relations in patriarchy create these sorts of conditions where women can and often do act in their own self-interests out of the perception that by just adhering very strongly to the role they've been prescribed it'll give them some degree of protection. Andrea Dworkin wrote a whole book about this phenomenon called Right-Wing Women that would encompass what you're talking about of having certain expectations that men need to be excessively masculine and never show emotions or whatever but then bitch about the miserable toxic situation they've gotten themselves into where it's impossible to have a functional relationship.
but this is why I would take this critique even further and say that the problem is with straightness being inextricable from patriarchy and seen as the default. everyone knows that patriarchy harms men too but ultimately the way it's traditionally worked out is that men benefit materially from the arrangement, though like I said, things have changed somewhat now that women are largely assimilated into the workforce.
>>2563705by reading theory and observing and talking to people?
>>2563709explain why americans cry about third worldism and call themselves Communist, yet Mao Zedong created Three Worlds Theory. Lenin said imperialists living standard should go down. Lenin said all americans are oppressors and imperialist. Every word they speak is in defiance of Communism, yet they are tolerated. Please explain for the proletarian mind cannot fathom how they live with this contradiction.
>>2563710It’s not just that women have been brought into the workforce but that women have been integrated into the bourgeoisie as well. Capitalism isn’t inherently patriarchal, if anything the increasing need to monetize and alienate people has been ironically dissolving a lot of old cultural structures. Which is good in some respects, yay for women rights and workers, boo Margaret thatcher and all that. The gender shit, I don’t won’t to get to deep into it. I think we’re in some awkward growing pains in the beginning of a post-patriarchal, post-racial world. Even if it doesn’t feel like it as we’re going through a particularly bad period of reactionary backlash.
>>2563697>>2563710The issue is that superstructure != material base. The material base is the family and the superstructure is "biological sex" and associated cultural norms. The family is an economic structure which alienates women of domestic labor (and emotional labor I guess?). The trouble is that political repression is not the same as economic alienation. The cops work for the capitalists but they are not the capitalists. Cops will absolutely fuck up a class traitor. Nazis will absolutely kill a race traitor. As a trans woman, I know that women will absolutely oppress the shit out of gender-nonconforming men. Feminists too often confuse superstructure and base. People too often confuse political repression with economic alienation. Women are alienated by labor in the family. Gender-nonconforming people are politically repressed by the society around them.
>>2563718>>2563719Also this. Capitalism is progressive in resolving remnants of feudalism in some ways, so a certain strata of women make a devil's bargain with capitalism. You see the same behavior with queer people. IMO women should adopt Lesbian Dengism instead of Liberalism.
>>2563710>by reading theory and observing and talking to people?While that's better than nothing you are an outsider looking in. In my experience women don't go to their partners exclusively about personal issues like men have a tendency to do. Women talk to friends, family, therapists, the paster's wife and requests the church pray for her while men try to keep personal issues close at hand and often limit it to their partner. So when women complain that their male partners don't react like their close friends that's because the men already understand she has told most her circle about her personal issues. He knows she already has a support group and doesn't see his input as being at the same level.
>>2563697There's nothing more disguting to a lot of women than a man who opens up about his feelings.
Frankly I think that people who celebrate zohran’s victory are celebrating too early.
It’s naive to think that no-one will think twice before using force to remove him.
>>2563755He wouldn't do shit since Zorhan is still a capitalist who has capitalist interest in his mind.
>>2563231Be careful, people get banned for saying that sort of thing here. The mantra on this form is that Anti-imperialism is a code word for anti-white.
>>2563713maybe because you guys derailed the thread for 18 of the last 24 hours every time I said the American proletariat should attacking their ruling class, you guys showed up and said it was impossible.
>>2563539Lenin was organizing inside a conscript military in a country that wasn't imperialist but let's ignore that and kowtow to baby killing freaks.
>>2563758This site has gone far right and bans every genuine Marxist leninist while it protects freaks like CPUSAnon who is an explicit and admitted imperialist who just wants a better standard of living for himself and his family at any cost.
>>2563758The farthest left posters here are social fascists who want to perfect imperialism so it can continue to rule, and provide them with a high standard of living, forever. absolutely none of them are serious about seeing change in their lifetimes. You shouldn't be surprised when right wingers hold right wing views.
>>2563764so all that shitting on mtg, for what?
>>2563764He got the FBI to destroy the documents related to him.
>>2563764>>2563766i think that any other mention of him in the files is as nebulous as what we've seen in the emails. he realized that there was virtually no consequence for the emails, so now he's saying fuck it. might as well rip the band aid off. release em, get the shock over with. people will forget withing a week because 'eh the billionaire president is a pedophile rapist we kinda already knew that of him and all other politicians and financial elites what are you gonna do'
it's normal. it's background noise.
>>2563761>bans every genuine Marxist leninistthird worldists are not ML, they are weird BIPOC fetishists
>>2563762third world ethnonationalism isn't far left
>>2563775The CCP stands for free trade and reaganomics now 😎
>>2563758The imperialists are the ones who derail. Not one day without an imperialist crying about "third worldists." The imperialists say routinely that americans arent imperialist, third worldism isnt Communist, americans are not all oppressors and exploiters, and that making imperialists' lives materially worse isnt Communism. The imperialists say all of these things constantly forcing our hands upon them.
You say americans should attack their ruling class. Only an imperialist would think this novel idea. Why arent these imperialists attacking ruling class? Why are the imperialists devoting hours every day to defying Lenin?
>>2563718>The gender shit, I don’t won’t to get to deep into it. I think we’re in some awkward growing pains in the beginning of a post-patriarchal, post-racial world>post-patriarchalMen hold a monopoly of violence everytime. There won't be a post-patriarchal society. More like evolved patriarchy past capitalism
>>2563761>ultragrab a flag so we can filter you.
For my own curiosity, which party do you participate in?
>>2563652
The article is right but it's worded wrong. Men are retarded and they want you to be their mother. Not to say that this isn't also applicable to women in its inverse but I'd argue it's less frequent and done in a way that is a more even transaction.
>>2563781i'd like to let you know of a little-known invention called a 'Firearm'….
>>2563713> Lenin said imperialists living standard should go down. Lenin said all americans are oppressors and imperialist. genuinely when did he say that
>>2563827He didn't, Evan just likes to make shit up
>>2563761I like how upset Cpusanon makes you
>>2563780>third worldism isnt CommunistNailed it on the head
>>2563693>all of this shit is always phrased in a shitlib wokescold sort of way that's intended to bait the opposition into becoming more reactionary (like what the responses ITT are) but there is a kernel of truth to it that has been obfuscated by decades of literal COINTELPRO activity that was done against the second wave feminist movement.It's basically ragebait to make people talk about gay article shit again. NYT style wokeness always comes down to getting attention, and the best way to do that is by posting something retarded about a controversial subject. It's always about market share, and all these outlets are scrambling for more revenue and cultural relevance as their impact has visibly declined in the past couple of decades
>>2563846I think these people really believe the bullshit they spew
>>2563843its kinda funny how the posters most calling for violence are also the ones who reject working with experts of violence out of principle lol
>>2563426>CCPyou are glowing
do better
>>2563853Doesn't really make sense, does it? Well cutting through pages and pages of theory, what the Bolsheviks did that was innovative was targeting areas that hadn't really been thought of as arenas of political struggle before, and that also included the army. Sailors were held in particular high regard. (Not only were there red mutinies, I think there's something about the navy that makes them more likely to experience what is essentially a form of class struggle within the organization.) Also the problem Lenin wanted to solve was how to get what was essentially a voluntary association to function as a military organization.
Like take a country's reserves. Here you have millions of people sitting at home, and then tomorrow a mobilization order is issued and they go. Now that's an organization. There is an element of violence implied in that, but there is too much stress given to that compared to the organization for action and discipline. And he explicitly made that analogy.
>>2563650>>2563640>>2563638>>2563631just report these people asap and every time
>>2563373TRVKE
China will not give you a revolution. China does not outsource revolution the way the USSR tried to. China will develop their productive forces and let the Americans handle their revolution.
>>2563617Heavily redacted, all relevant names taken out, complete nothingburger.
Just like that Trump official said it would be a few months ago.
>>2563870>>2563760You know I'm starting to think the current US ruling class is realizing which way the wind is blowing and are trying to relocate as much as they can to Israel and then use it as their revolution-apocalypse bunker so they don't get beheaded by their angry subjects
>>2563872nick fuentes is a spook. his opinions must be treated as such. it's that simple.
>>2563889CIA doesn't take fags, you know that right?
>>2563886rich people usually don't resettle just because people is angry at x ally. they lose connections, power brokering, and the know-how of the state.
>>2563760that's so funny.
>>2563880third worldists are ultras, ultra-rightists
>>2563886dude they're going to new zealand
>>2563895my bet is Cyprus
>>2563896some go to cyprus but all the ones you can think of have acquired nz citizenship or are gonna acquire it, it's just a smart decision given nz is really hard to invade and is incredibly stable
>>2563892>implying I've talked about the CIA>implying I said he was gay.anon, that's a bunch of assumptions. the lady doth protest too much, methinks.
also, with the cointelpro, the spooks infiltrated LGBT organizations.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-fbi-secretly-tracked-gay-activists-in-the-60s>Frank Kameny, an under-recognized grandfather of the gay rights movement, was a victim of the Lavender Scare. A Harvard-educated astronomer, he had always dreamed of going to space, but after the government learned of his sexual orientation, he was barred from working for his country ever again>….I unearthed thousands of recently declassified legal transcripts and government documents, including a 1,000-page FBI file that details the government’s surveillance and infiltration of Kameny’s organization >>2563871>I think there's something about the navy that makes them more likely to experience what is essentially a form of class struggle within the organization.Weirdly enough there were some junior officers in the Chilean navy that attempted to warn the Allende government about the impending coup. Unfortunately they were ignored.
Maybe all the gay sex makes them more left wing? >>2563893Usually
>>2563896It’s definitely New Zealand, but it looks like Cyprus as well.
>>2563886It’s not a particularly good plan for them to act on. They simply do not have what it takes to run an underground enclave society like this. And it appears to me that the proletariat has inherited the role of the brainy class, so it would take long for proletarian bunker busters to find their targets.
With that said, with that, what I am most concerned about is their counter measures against the revolutionary proletariat. There is already signs of them weaponizing climate change against the greater humanity. They’re possession of nuclear weapons, especially in Israel, greatly concerns me with their eugenicist doomsday cult mentality. The dismantling of nuclear weapons systems to prevent even greater global mass slaughter will be a goal of upmost importance for the communists in the near future.
>>2563894pure western social chauvinist projection lol
>>2563219 >>2563920whole lotta buzzwords based on the annual UN vote russia holds on that subject
>>2563920explain why you think israel isn't nazi
>>2563921if you are in chrome, or any chromium web browser, select the text by left-clicking-dragging, and then right click. there's an option to "Translate this text". and much better than the X translation tool.
>>2563922>russia holdsmuh Russia.
The US or any of the nato members could propose the vote, couldn't they?
>>2563938engels already said it (1894);
<The history of early Christianity has notable points of resemblance with the modern working-class movement. Like the latter, Christianity was originally a movement of oppressed people: it first appeared as the religion of slaves and emancipated slaves, of poor people deprived of all rights, of peoples subjugated or dispersed by Rome. Both Christianity and the workers’ socialism preach forthcoming salvation from bondage and misery; Christianity places this salvation in a life beyond, after death, in heaven; socialism places it in this world, in a transformation of society. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894/early-christianity/right-wingers have also made the same observation:
>Oswald Spengler claimed that “Christianity was the Grandmother of Bolshevism,” while Friedrich Nietzsche had it that socialism was a despicable “residue of Christianity.” The self-proclaimed “superfascist” Julius Evola attacked both socialism and Christianity for their shared commitment to “progress.”https://jacobin.com/2024/03/christianity-morality-socialism-liberalism-macintyre >>2563938>If I change the thing you say it sounds like a thing you didn't sayTumblr is the right wing of Leftypol
>>2563939sure they do, but why does russia propose it every year? it is certainly not because they are actually opposed to "neo-nazism or contemporary forms of racism", it's purely opportunistic if you actually know a thing or two about what russian policy has been since the collapse of the USSR
>>2563943engels is wrong but you can't blame him for it
>>2563949how is he wrong?
>>2563953because christianity was not the movement of the oppressed? it was the movement of middle-wealthy gentiles and those who weren't those, joined it to gain the benefits of it
>>2563949>engels<wronglibtard detected
>Hassaan Chaudhary, who identifies himself as newly appointed political director for Mamdani’s transition and inaugural committee on LinkedIn, used the word “Jew” as a slur, and even praised former Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who infamously said Israel is “a cancer which will be eliminated soon.”
>Responding to Pakistani journalist Najam Sethi on February 9, 2012, Chaudhary said, “Hitler..why dont you face our Pakistani people? Your daughter works at WSJ [the Wall Street Journal].”
>He then invokes an Urdu phrase, saying, “oh forgot that Jew hoga tera baap” — which loosely means “Jew will be your father.”
>In another post, a thrilled Chaudhury also lauded Ahmadinejad and called him “fearless.”
<More recently, Chaudhary reshared a post on X in December 2024 aimed at pro-Israel Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat who is Jewish. “If Luigi [Mangione] had shot a Gazan toddler instead, Josh Shapiro would have given him a medal,” the original post said.
>>2563948>sure they dohuh?
>but why does russia propose it every year?what's the problem? with that. they do it since 2005, and they have moved time to time to disband and arrest Russian nazis and their parties.
>>2563972i meant to say "sure they could" but the point is that it's entirely opportunistic to further their nationalist goals, to contrast other nations as "neo-nazi" while downplaying their own racism, and it's a UN vote, which is only representative of the ambassadors themselves, so again, why use this as a point for an argument?
>>2563974>while downplaying their own racismdon't throw words you don't know lib. racism is a
state, e.g. that the US prison population is composed by ethnic minorities, despite whites commit around the same number of crimes than other groups.
>to contrast other nations as "neo-nazi"Wow, Russia forced these nations to vote
NO in those UNGA votes, lmao.
>>2563957>because christianity was not the movement of the oppressed? it was the movement of middle-wealthy gentilesInterestingly people who study the gospels from the secular standpoint of them being historical documents rather than divinely inspired works, conclude that they were written not by the apostles they were named after, but significantly later, by wealthy, greek-speaking, Romano-Jewish and gentile aristocrats. Probably between 70 and 150 CE, depending on the gospel. What remains more ambiguous is whether a "Jesus movement" based on "his" (or somebody's) teachings and sayings already existed before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, and to what extent the gospel story was fleshed out by 70 CE, and to what extent it was created after 70 CE. The gospels contradict one another on some interesting details, and each gospsel may have been written by leaders of different factions within early Christianity, with different intended audiences, some speaking directly to Jews in order to convert them to Christianity, while others focused on converting gentiles to Christianity.
There are a lot of long standing conspiracies about Jesus, one of the more interesting ones, in my opinion, being that Christianity was created by emperor Titus and his Jewish mistress in 70 CE to pacify the rebels with a synthetic ideology (specifically a synthesis of Roman religion, Jewish religion, and Stoic philosophy) that preached peace, turning the other cheek, paying taxes to Rome, fearing your master, and waiting for salvation in the afterlife. Some thing Josephus may have helped fabricate one or more of the gospels while also writing his secular histories of the Jewish people.
>>2563981>Wow, Russia forced these nations to vote NO in those UNGA votes, lmao.yeah i always find that argument hilarious. burgers and euroids could have the easiest propaganda layup in history by simply agreeing that nazism and racism are bad, but instead consciously choose to either abstain (LOL) or vote "NO! NAZISM GOOD!!!!" in order to stick it to bad, evil, racist, anti-democratic Russia for invading good loyal Ukraine who voluntarily helped America invade Iraq despite not even being in NATO.
The grocery store I work at just threw out like 5-6k worth of meat and dairy because the fridges went out for a few hours. All still perfectly fine and cold. Didn't donate anything it's all just gone.
>>2564010id risk it all to save some of that prime rib
>>2563886israel has been making huge investments into cyprus and greece, buying up land and properties.
1. hedging their bets in case of a apocalyse scenario like the fall of the kingdom of jerusalem they can retreat to cyprus, hijack it, and use it as a base. i mean it still has literal british sovereign territories there.
2. also hedging their bets against turkiye.
>>2563938Correct take. Too many burger leftists are just pearl clutching sad sacks who don’t give a fuck about actually getting anything done. They’re childish, egocentric liabilities to building any feasible socialist movement in the imperial core
>BRUH BRUH YOU WATCH HECKIN PROBLEMATIC MOVIE????>BRUH. BRUH YOU DISAGREED WITH A DEAD BOLSHEVIK ON A MINOR POINT????>YOU READ THEORY WRITTEN AFTER 1930????? BRUH THAT’S REVISIONISM BRUHFuckin mentally ill losers
>>2564053>>BRUH BRUH YOU WATCH HECKIN PROBLEMATIC MOVIE????>>BRUH. BRUH YOU DISAGREED WITH A DEAD BOLSHEVIK ON A MINOR POINT????>>YOU READ THEORY WRITTEN AFTER 1930????? BRUH THAT’S REVISIONISM BRUHToo accurate you actually scared me there.
>>2563938>>2564053>>2564065… heheh, wanting emancipation in the real world using real means is like telling everyone to wait for jesus to come back. i'm so smart
>>2563829it's not sustainable because old people need their diapers changed and their peas heated up in the microwave and if there are no young people around to do that they just die
t. someone who has 3 elderly disabled people he takes care of in his life, in addition to a child
>>2563998but no, they can't do such optics,
bacause,
um, because>It advances Russia geopolitical interests you know >>2564066and these real means are?
>>2563943Yea just nitpick whatever you like just like you do with the bible and ignore the whole part where Marx destroyed christian "socialist" utopians and called for the eradication of religion in a contribution to a critique of Hegel's philosophy of the right.
>>2564068how about you stop basing your arguments on UN votes and look at actual things, actually happening, in the world? and you talk like the most insufferable cunt i've ever heard in my life
>>2563938Fairly true, but unfortunately with "actual progress" they probably just mean reformism and shilling for the demokkkrats
>>2563617So when it dies in the senate, he can point at OKing the House vote and shrug. Also looks bad when your own people break with you as seems would be the case in the House with MTG and Massie leading a breakout over the vote, and rumors of more joining. Now it looks less like a break on the surface.
what is new in the free world?
>>2564088all of these except the last one are nothingburgers that could be used to convict any nation of being "treatlerite" and therefore we must adopt a version of nazism to condemn it
>>2564096is it shocking that a right wing party has nazi or fascist sympathizers in it? that's true not only across the western world but in practically any country with a right wing party, is people being delusional over a horrific reality a uniquely western or american thing? no it's a worldwide phenomena again, same for the rest of them with only the exception of hunka there, which i can really only think of a few examples where a former SS member has received a standing ovation
>>2564102What other examples can you think of?
>>2564114I want to watch some live Trump stuff this morning, what's on the agenda? Did I miss anything yet?
>>2564102>that's true not only across the western world but in practically any country with a right wing party, is people being delusional over a horrific reality a uniquely western or american thingexcept that operation gladio, operation aerodynamic, operation bloodstone, the gehlen organization, and the indirect support and tolerance of nazis networks in Latin America are all from the US, or more broad, nato.
you can name me one or two world-wide programs ran, say, i.e. by Iran, to promote nazism around Europe.
that would make it
not unique to the western world.
>>2564110welcome to like five years ago, where have you been
Chelsea Clinton will be the next American president
>>2564123>November 15, 2025.>5 years ago.read before posting, punk ass.
>>2564128i was referring to the kanye tweets and the trump dinner which you seem to think happened recently
>>2564122it'd be great if you even cited this as an example, rather than really common things, but no it's not "exceptional" for neo-nazism to be not only enabled but funded and promoted, the russians are doing it now, to actual neo nazis across europe like those in slovakia, germany, france, etc since it benefits their interests, likewise the americans doing this was not even out of some campaign to "promote nazism" but to undermine their enemies by using nazis as battering rams, and yet again why are you using this a barometer of the median person in these nations? that it's alright to adopt a new form of nazism (third worldism) in order to attack this?
>>2564138>the russians are doing it now, to actual neo nazis across europe like those in slovakia, germany, france, etc Proof?
>>2564131>you seem to think (the dinner) happened recentlynot five years ago, it didn't.
also, the post is about trump defending tucker carlson's podcast interviewing nick fuentes, which trump just now confirmed it existed, and was ye who invited fuentes to that dinner party. that happened two days ago.
stay tunned for
more actual things, actually happening, in the world(TM) >>2564112the first i can think of is wernher von braun, and the other is gunther grass. there are certainly more though
>>2564077>how about you stop basing your arguments on UN votes and look at actual things, actually happening, in the world? and you talk like the most insufferable cunt i've ever heard in my lifeok… except americans and their allies voting that nazism and racism is good at the UN is just the icing on the cake. the CIA funds, arms, and trains reactionaries all around the world, the US operates 800 offshore military bases, it operates torture dungeons like guantanamo bay…
>>2564152Idk I was just interested in what sources he would provide, as far as I know it's just ukraine that's the modern day mecca for neonazis and white supremacists looking for military experience. I agree with your argument tho, it's solid
>>2564156and this is representative of the median how exactly? is the average westerner or american saying "YES, BLOW UP THOSE CHILDREN, ANNIHILATE THEM!!!!!!!" sure you can find examples of some people saying it, but is the median that is not something you've proved
>>2564157yes i agree with you as well, it's just that I've gone in circles on this topic for 3 years and I try to find the conversational route that cuts through their bullshit the fastest, and to me, that conversational route works because they usually shut up after I point that out
>>2564160i'm new in this conversation, i was talking about the american government not its people. i guess i misunderstood what your goal was in your previous post.
>>2564160i'm literally american btw, i'm just trying to get people to realize what the US government does so they stop supporting it out of ignorance… no most people don't believe in blowing children up… necessarily… it's more like they actually eat up the lies that it's all self defense… especially during GWOT.
>>2564161I get that, just people sometimes say such outrageous things, I wanna know where they get that stuff from
>is the average westerner or american saying "YES, BLOW UP THOSE CHILDREN, ANNIHILATE THEM!!!!!!!"
They are saying that with their votes and with their money yes
>>2564173Please shut the fuck up you unserious child. This bullshit helps no one
>>2564177That's not an argument
>>2564173so they're not saying it then, got it
>>2564167then phrase it in a more concise way
>>2564164i have tried to make that clear over the previous posts, but i do keep noting that a lot of things people bring up on this subject are selectively picked out
>>2564138>TWists are neo-neo-nazisTRVTHNVKE
>>2564182They are saying it in all the ways that matter
>>2564184You're such a whiny fucking Third Worldist bitch. Kill yourself
>>2564183they really are when you actually get down the nuts and bolts of it, they want everything a typical neo nazi wants, just with the specifics of it changed, instead of "aryan" it's for the "oppressed nations" and so on
>>2564188We both agree that's not good but we disagree on what to do about it. The problem with that is you don't fucking live here so you don't understand the specifics of what is actually possible. You're an abusive neo-nazi third Worldist with a 16 year old LARP mentality.
I bet you've been a "communist" for like a year tops. You don't know fucking shit.
>>2564194>We both agree that's not good but we disagree on what to do about itWe haven't discussed what to do about it so Im not sure where you draw that conclusion from
>The problem with that is you don't fucking live here so you don't understand the specifics of what is actually possibleI live in western europe friend Im well aware of the limitations of living in the west. The problem is that you as an american are practically completely disconnected from the rest of the world's struggle against your government
>Spazzing out over muh thurd worldismngmi
>Projection about how long Ive been a communistmore cope
>>2564190(Previous post deleted because angrily misunderstood you)
Yeah exactly. And none of them fucking live here, and all of them are white lmao. They're stupid idiots who get their entire understanding of US political climate from Fag Shrimpanada WHO IS FUCKING AUSTRALIAN. People NEED to listen to true anons latest episode with Aaron Leonard and also reaallyyy drink in and digest what Brace said in the beginning of that episode.
These baby communists need to grow the fuck up and understand that communism isn't just about fucking "revolution" or whatever like a bunch of LARPing artists.
>>2564186>>2564188man the posts are really low quality and lacking nuance today… just like always!
my favorite thing is when communists call each other anti communists, and give each other short, dismissive, thought terminating cliches, and the rare effort post is either deliberately misinterpreted or re-interpreted in the least charitable way possible
>>2564190i think we should want CIA coups and forever wars to stop and we shouldn't be concerned with people who either oppose stopping CIA coups and forever wars or people who try to shitcoat opposition to CIA coups and forever wars with schizophrenia.
>>2564203>when communists call each other anti communistsThe history of communism in one sentence
>>2564202the thing about badempanada is he loves to pretend he is not a westerner taking advantage of a developing nation, since i also happen to be australian, would he be at all a notable or successful figure if he not only still lived in australia, but also didn't pander to self-hating americans/westerners on a daily basis? i really doubt it, he outright parrots misinformation if it serves his agenda, he and other third worldists do not even believe in communism anymore, only a new nazism in which the greatest heartache is that you aren't self-hating like him, or even if you are, you aren't doing it ENOUGH, he calls for impotent violence that he's too cowardly to actually defend when it comes down to it, since he's a grifter that people support because he makes them feel good or whatever the fuck
>>2564201So you DON'T fucking live here, I was right. So shut the fuck up. US imperialism is in irreversible decline. Full stop. Stop assuming you know what the working class here believes. Stop assuming you know how white we are or not. This place is so unbelievably different from Europe that any chance for your to project your Eurofag intuitions onto us will fail. Get the fuck out of this thread and go to Shmorginbørg/pol/ or whatever thread to solve whatever problems Europeans have
>>2564203Who doesn't enjoy a little shitflinging in /USApol/?
>my favorite thing is when communists call each other anti communistsWelcome to the communist movement
>>2564186You are a Zionist and a treatler.
>>2564194not the guy ur arguing with but what is your explanation for the fact that the most significant socialist revolutions have always occured in exploited underdeveloped places like china, russia, vietnam, cuba, rather than the most advanced nations with the most developed means of production like marx predicted? I won't call for like mass genocide of first worlders (except for ironically) but a lack of optimism about the revolutionary potential of highly developed bourgeois imperialist nations seems warranted given the historical record.
i learned recently that not a SINGLE heterosexual person risked anything to save homosexuals persecuted by the nazis during/prior to ww2, and it has really killed any idealism i might have about people acting out of their self-interest. 'allies' simply do not exist in a meaningful sense, you either have personal stakes in the revolution or you have personal stakes in the status quo.
from [
https://19thnews.org/2025/10/lgbtq-history-month-holocaust-resistance/]:“I have not found one single instance of a straight person risking, helping, protecting a queer and trans person during this history,” Newsome said. “Not a single one. And that’s a hard pill to swallow.”
>>2564139Lame. They got to him. I would not have apologized.
>>2564205i don't think you should accept literally anyone because you will eventually get people who try to do that into a thing for their group, if you tactically let in TWisters, you'll become a front group for them to launder their nonsense into wider society, if we follow your advice we simply will create a movement of self-flagellating masturbationists who only support failed or failing movements to feel good about themselves
>>2564211Ok? I never denied not being a USian? No need to get your panties in a twist, I'd much rather you just engage with the argument. Your standpoint theory position on commenting on the american working class, like we don't live in a world completely dominated by america, is pretty funny for somebody so worked up about third worldism tbh
>>2564203can you at least post different pics
>>2563208DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN:
>>2563239HE IS A LIAR TRYING TO TRICK YOU. THERE IS NOTHING REDEEMABLE ABOUT THE EAST COAST. WARNING: YOU WILL KILL YOURSELF FROM DESPAIR.
>>2564211tw is a latam phenomenon
>>2564216i'm just saying ignore people who say the right thing in the most schizo way possible to shitcoat it. like obviously us imperialism bad but certain people try to shitcoat that. imagine if I said everything you believed but also paired it with a bunch of schizo shit. and then you had to sit and watch powerlessly as people try to refute your principles rather than the schizo shit
>>2564220nope, i hammer home a point as long as it remains relevant.
>>2564228normally the two come in pairs, that the schizo shit is integral to the rest of the argument
>>2563845How does one achieve such MASS?
>>2564235One push up every time Don says something homoerotic
>>2564110Did Kanye actually flip back to being a nazi again already?
>>2564110Comrade Kanye fighting the true anti third worldist pro ML fight
>>2564240I am sexually attracted to that UNIT of a male. Not in that I want to have sex with him, but I want to BECOME him and impregnate my wife while in his FORM
and content >>25642341st person: 2+2=4
2nd person: 2+2=4 and all babies must be thrown into a blender
3rd person: ha! what an idiot you are. babies should not be thrown into blenders and therefore 2+2=grilled cheese.
1st person: 2+2=4….
3rd person: so you agree babies should be thrown into blenders? what a sicko you are!
>>2564255Thought it was you ngl
>>2564255I am also married and would like to distance myself from this hothead:
>>2564252 >>2564235The key to this physique is to Eat Clen, Tren Hard, Anavar Give Up
>>2564256i have seen it happen on this very board many times
>>2564261Leftypol's favourite MLs gathered together to btfo Third Worldists with their plans in the free market place of ideas. If you criticize or worse, disavow them, you just haven't looked up the material conditions of the average Amerikkkan
Lets try to keep the /isg/ gayshit in /isg/ friends
>>2564278I'm still right and you are all faggots if you disagree with me. We need to spread UNITRY otherwise there will be more Bubbas and Trumps in this world. Do what Gorky says or fascism will win.
Faggots are super gay for making fun of me that I spotted a handsome MALE that I wish I was.
Cracks are showing:
>President Donald Trump’s veneer of political invulnerability has begun to crack as he struggles to find his footing on Americans’ concerns about affordability and fails to extinguish a push by renegade Republicans to release more files from the Jeffrey Epstein case.
>The twin challenges, coming shortly after Democratic victories in recent elections and before next year’s midterm campaigns that will determine control of Congress, represent a sobering situation for a president who has reveled in his unrivaled dominance in Washington.
>…Rep. Thomas Massie, a Kentucky Republican who has frequently angered Trump, reminded his party about this on Sunday as he urged lawmakers to support legislation that would force the Justice Department to publish documents about Epstein.
>“I would remind my Republican colleagues who are deciding how to vote — Donald Trump can protect you in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement,” Massie said on ABC News. “But in 2030, he’s not going to be the president, and you will have voted to protect pedophiles if you don’t vote to release these files, and the president can’t protect you then.”
>…Trump conceded Sunday night that some consumer costs are “a little bit higher.” Addressing affordability has prompted Trump to partially backtrack on tariffs, a core part of his economic agenda. His administration reduced levies on imports of products like coffee, beef and tropical fruit, an implicit concession that tariffs have increased costs despite the president’s promises to the contrary.
>…Neil Newhouse, a longtime Republican pollster, said Democratic victories weren’t surprising but “what got our attention was the depth and the breadth of the wins.” He warned that his party risks making the same mistakes as Democratic President Joe Biden, who oversaw high inflation while attempting to convince voters that the problem would soon pass.
>“We can tell them prices are going down until we’re blue in the face,” Newhouse said. “Unless they’re seeing it at the grocery stores, it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference.”https://apnews.com/article/trump-epstein-midterms-affordability-economy-c908847c586e635e26ecd5ee203df474>>2564291
Yes, during the 2020 unrest I think. NTA
>The White House pointed to Del. Stacey Plaskett (D-V.I.), who received $30,000 from Epstein for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee after his conviction. Plaskett also accepted maximum personal campaign donations from him. She was also texting with Epstein in 2019.
Not sure if people realize how small elite society is
>>2564290okay but what about venevezula?
>>2564295MADuro is giving DURGS to innosint BOYGURZ so we have to turn vuvuzela into a crater. my source? the john bolton institute for freedom fries.
>>2564295My personal thinking is that sending troops here and there and starting new wars is unpopular and I really think it would be a bad idea considering he has already been rebuked on his agenda. God forbid it goes badly and turns protracted, it would be catastrophic politically. Distract from the Epstein shit? Maybe, but it'll probably take until 2026 before it goes to a vote in the Senate, if it even does. But who knows really. I could just as easily be wrong, the man is surrounded by yes-men.
>>2564210>the thing about badempanada is he loves to pretend he is not a westernerthis shouldnt have any bearing on what he says. pointing it out like it's gotcha is sign of intellectual laziness and is spiritually israeli (e.g. zios calling antizionists "self hating jews")
blogpost time: i've tried to stay "moderate" in my leftism but it's increasingly harder to shake the idea that the US is now concretely the global headquarters for international fascism, as corny and contradictory that may sound. but the Indonesian school shooter who wrote Agartha and Christchurch memes on his guns broke me. my enemy is no longer just the US government but also the US people, and i say this as an American citizen. we can only pay our debts to the rest of the world by conducting the cleansing this country has needed ever since Reconstruction failed 150 years ago.
>>2564211>So you DON'T fucking live here, I was rightUnironic american exceptionalism, the seed that fuels all the retarded anti third-worldist screeds.
Reposting here as well for awareness of Saudi
>A Kenyan housekeeper, Eunice Achieng, called home in a panic in 2022, saying that her boss had threatened to kill her and throw her in a water tank. “She was screaming, ‘Please come save me!’” her mother recalled. Ms. Achieng soon turned up dead in a rooftop water tank, her mother said. Saudi health officials said her body was too decomposed to determine how she died. The Saudi police labeled it a “natural death.”
>In Uganda, Isiko Moses Waiswa said that when he learned his wife had died in Saudi Arabia, her employer there gave him a choice: her body or her $2,800 in wages. A Saudi autopsy found that his wife, Aisha Meeme, was emaciated. She had extensive bruising, three broken ribs and what appeared to be severe electrocution burns on her ear, hand and feet. The Saudi authorities declared that she had died of natural causes.
>One young mother jumped from a third-story roof to escape an abusive employer, breaking her back. Another said that her boss had raped her and then sent her home pregnant and broke.
>Last month, four Ugandan women in maids’ uniforms sent a video plea to an aid group, saying that they had been detained for six months in Saudi Arabia. “We are exhausted from being held against our will,” one woman said on the video. The company that sent her abroad is owned by Sedrack Nzaire, an official with Uganda’s governing party who is identified in Ugandan media as the brother of the president, Yoweri Museveni.
>Ms. Nassanga found her housekeeping job as pleasant as recruiters had promised. She had her own room. The woman she worked for sometimes even helped with chores. Then one day, she said, her boss’s husband walked into her room and raped her. Afterward, she said, he kicked and slapped her. He threw her underwear at her as she retreated to the kitchen, Ms. Nassanga said. When she became pregnant, Ms. Nassanga’s boss accused her of sleeping with the husband. The Saudi family put her on a plane back to Uganda.
>Mwanakombo Ngao was hospitalized in a mental institution after returning home. She has no recollection of what happened in Saudi Arabia.
>Esther Kerubo Moranga said her Saudi boss abused her. Now, she says, her uncle beats her for returning home without money.
>Josephine Uchi says she worked a demanding housekeeping job while also caring for a Saudi family of 12. She was allowed four hours of sleep a night.
>Mary Nsiimenta, a single mother with big, mournful eyes, cleaned house for a family with five children in Najran, in southern Saudi Arabia. She said the children, ages 9 to 18, hit her with a stick and put bleach in her eyes. (Several women told The Times that they were assaulted with bleach or forced to soak their hands in it as punishment.) According to Ms. Nsiimenta, her employer was stingy with her salary. After she repeatedly asked to be paid, she said, the family locked her on a third-story rooftop.
>At least 274 Kenyan workers, mostly women, have died in Saudi Arabia in the past five years — an extraordinary figure for a young work force doing jobs that, in most countries, are considered extremely safe. At least 55 Kenyan workers died last year, twice as many as the previous year.
>A spokesman for the human resources ministry in Saudi Arabia said it had taken steps to protect workers. “Any form of exploitation or abuse of domestic workers is entirely unacceptable, and allegations of such behavior are thoroughly investigated,” the spokesman, Mike GOLDSTEIN, wrote in an email.
>Because visas are tied to employment, workers who leave their jobs can lose their legal status. To help address that, the Saudi government paid a company, Sakan, to provide housing and legal assistance to foreign workers in trouble. Hannah Njeri Miriam ended up at a Sakan center in 2022, about a year after she left Kenya’s Rift Valley for Saudi Arabia. Ms. Miriam’s employer fired her after a dispute. Jobless and homeless, Sakan was the only place to go. Once there, according to her family, the staff said she could leave only if she paid about $300 for her travel.
>She called home, saying she was being mistreated and underfed. Nobody could afford to help. The Kenyan agency that had sent her abroad had gone out of business. Finally, her family got a call from another woman at the center. She said Ms. Miriam had tried to escape through an air-conditioning opening but had slipped and fallen two stories. A forensic report said that Ms. Miriam had died of head wounds. The Saudi police later said that she died of “congestive cardiac and respiratory failure.”
>“Under no circumstances does a worker bear any financial responsibility for repatriation,” wrote Mr. GOLDSTEIN, the Saudi ministry spokesman.
>Mr. GOLDSTEIN, the Saudi ministry spokesman, declined to comment on individual deaths but said that every case was thoroughly investigated. He did not comment on the inconsistencies between autopsies and police reports and would not say how many people had been arrested or prosecuted in labor cases.
>Mr. GOLDSTEIN said the government stopped funding Sakan in 2023. Now, he said, it pays the recruiting agency Smasco to run worker-assistance centers. Three Kenyan women spoke to The Times from inside a Smasco center. The women, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation, said that they could not go home unless they paid about $400. The company did not respond to requests for comment.
>People should not have been surprised. The leaders of Kenya and Uganda had ample warning of abuse, yet they signed agreements with Saudi Arabia that lacked protections that other leaders demanded.
>The Philippines deal in 2012, for example, guaranteed a $400 monthly minimum wage, access to bank accounts and a promise that workers’ passports would not be confiscated. Kenya initially demanded similar wages, according to a government report, but when Saudi Arabia balked, Kenya agreed to a deal in 2015 with no minimum wage at all.
>Mr. Mohamed, the Kenyan president’s spokesman, said that the government later negotiated $225 monthly wages. He said Kenyan workers were simply not as highly regarded in Saudi Arabia. “Philippines is able to dictate the price,” he said.
>In 2021, a Kenyan Senate committee found “deteriorating conditions” in Saudi Arabia and an “increase in distress calls by those alleging torture and mistreatment.” The committee recommended suspending worker transfers. When Mr. Ruto was elected president in 2022, though, the campaign to send workers abroad intensified. His government reached a new Saudi labor agreement the following year without a wage increase or substantive new protections.https://archive.is/u3Dea>>2564312So someone from Indonesia does a shooting and it’s Americans fault? The Christchurch shooter was an Australian and secondly does this show that reactionary horseshoe is prevalent everywhere?
>>2564312it's not corny, america is literally the headquarters of international fascism, mexican fascists literally call out for donald trump to violently intervene, milei is giving elon musk chainsaws, geert wilders presents himself as some emaciated donald trump cosplayer. who are boers calling out for? the US. Who are the zionists calling out for? the US.
>>2564323Kill yourself, amerilard pig.
>>2564312>but it's increasingly harder to shake the idea that the US is now concretely the global headquarters for international fascismIt has been since at least the 60s anon, where have you been?
>>2564312Stinky rotten bait
>>2564312>my enemy is no longer just the US government but also the US people>ze peopleinterclass non marxist construct
>>2564261>Nicholasi assume you are referring to st. nicholas, aka santa claus
>>2564324Geert Wilders has looked like he does for decades, he didn't get that wacky haircut to imitate trump but it's something he did long ago to hide his Indonesian heritage
>>2564323yes it is our fault. everyday that passes where we don't just outright destroy these domestic think tanks and NGOs, social media tech companies, and Christian white nationalist interest groups is another day this ideology is allowed to spread with zero consequences. if you don't destroy it now it will be utilized against the rest of the world, and any pretense of the liberal order will be dropped and rape and looting will the new based America First thing.
the attempted color revolution in Mexico this past week is also yet another sign of where the wind is blowing. millions of young Americans will enlist and participate in atrocities and killings and they will rampage across Latin America to impose the tech dictatorship of the reconfigured and emboldened US ruling class.
>>2564325the difference back then was a liberal order that was willing to use the fascist detritus of the second world war or using Islamist reactionaries to achieve their geopolitical aims. now the fascists are in government versus having to hide and bide their time.
>>2564327>>2564329we're already past that point of whining about this, at what point were the German masses no longer just victims of an unfair Versailles? the empire is preparing for mass war on multiple continents and you still think US citizens are just bystanders and victims rather than the lifeblood of this attempt to reimpose the 19th century on the rest of the world.
>>2564323>everything is like disconnected man, people just do things for no reason and are not influenced by anything at allretard
>>2564306it does have a bearing on what he says since he needs to keep up the image of being someone who despises the west, and to do that he must take idiotic positions
>>2564339>the difference back then was a liberal order that was willing to use the fascist detritus of the second world war or using Islamist reactionaries to achieve their geopolitical aims. now the fascists are in government versus having to hide and bide their time.That's not a meaningful difference
>>2564339>at what point were the German masses no longer just victims of an unfair Versailles?>le massesnon marxist interclass construct. le workers VOOTED kpd. le hindenberg appointed shitler chancellor
>>2564339beyond hysterical
>>2564341Okay so people outside the U.S have zero agency and are turned reactionary by evil burger brain waves. You’re retarded anon and you’ll find yourself isolated increasingly be everyone, including the same people your claiming to champion.
>>2564339>just bystanders and victims rather than the lifeblood of this attempt to reimpose the 19th century on the rest of the world.let's be clear right now, going "it's da peepollz fault" is not only cowardly, it's outright just saying that the entire population of a country are at the fault of every singular horror a country produces, something that is explicitly denounced by any reasonable thinking, like that practiced by marx and the sort
>>2564349to be fair (and I disagree with the other anon's stupid argument) the US CIA did fund, arm, and train a lot of reactionaries in other countries. it's less that other people have "zero agency" and turn "evil" because of "burger brain waves" and more that the US government specifically finds the most reactionary people in any given society and elevates them… hence the al qaeda guy in charge of syria now, for example. read killing hope by william blum if you haven't. or washington bullets by vijay prashad. or the jakarta method by vincent bevins.
>>2564351i've said this before but the idea of collective guilt and collective punishment was the historical norm before the enlightenment. some people seem to want to return to pre-enlightenment thinking rather than moving beyond liberalism. They are anti liberal, but in a reactionary sense rather than a revolutionary sense.
>>2564353they fund them because their entire ideology is violence and brutality, which they can use to further their goal since all they want is power + the ability to abuse others
>>2564359if by they you mean the bourgeoisie… yes
Watching MSnow and the libs are already trying to whitewash MTG
>>2564343>>2564344>>2564346>>2564351i understand your concerns but Marx enthusiastically supported the Union in the American civil war. you want to attack me for using simplified concepts but my point still stands. by your reasoning chattel slavery was purely a crime of the ruling class and not a system so deeply embedded into the United States that required a civil conflict to resolve the stranglehold that the plantation-slavers had on the federal government. again, we are at that point. finance (and now tech) capitalism and its support for genocidal white nationalist ideology is despised by most of the population but it is our ruler and master just as the slaveowners were for Americans in the 1850's. it is absolutely our fault until this shit is overturned.
>>2564363Let them. The Libs are retards but anything that accelerates the fracture of the GOP is good. And it's good that the libs are doing the whitewashing and not the left
>>2564349The US uses its position as economic hegemon of the world to spread its poisonous reactionary ideology, through its international media monopoly and the internet, through NGOs, ThinkTanks, by investing in institutions that do this for them and all other methods available to them. This doesn't mean other people don't have "agency" or that there's no homegrown reaction in those places, it's just the material condition of the world we inhabit
>>2564353What about my argument so you find stupid and disagreeable anon?
>>2564369do you deny the existence of a multipolar world? not much of a global economic hegemon if China, Russia and to an extent India exist outside of it
>>2564376NTA but we're still in the burgeoning stages of a multipolar order. as long as the dollar is the reserve currency and financialization is the endgame for most developed and developing economies there is no meaningful multipolar order, yet.
>>2564361what i've been trying to say is that leftists have the courage to hate the bourgeoisie and ruling class… but do they have the courage to hate petty booj and working class Americans who are thoroughly infected with the violence and logic of empire? you may hate the ruling class above all else, and it would be logical and reasonable to do so.
but history shows that to destroy the ruling class, it also requires more than that. Red Army soldiers didn't try and evangelize to German soldiers about the benefits and wonders of the socialist project. they killed and shot other proletarians and were blown up in turn. leftists are still loathe to admit what winning the future really looks like.
>>2564376The unipolar world is fading sure, this has only been a recent development of the last 10 years or so however. And who knows what the american empire will do in its death's throws, while its power, influence and control over the world economy is still vastly more impactful than the other contenders?
>>2564378>we're still in the burgeoning stages of a multipolar orderMaybe before covid. We've had a strong tripolar world since Russia didn't lose in Ukraine
>dollar is the reserve currency China's entire strategy revolves around using the dollar. You need to abandon this metric for mulitpolarity, it's completely useless. Just last week they started offering dollar bonds at better rates than the American Treasury!
>China’s Ministry of Finance issued $4 billion in dollar-denominated bonds in Hong Kong, with the three-year tranche yielding 3.625%, matching comparable US Treasury yieldshttps://www.cryptopolitan.com/chinas-4b-dollar-bonds-matches-u-s/ >>2564324In international politics the US is merely the biggest bully of the fascist bunch called "the west".
EUrocrats and UK imperialists however are in no way less fascist than US libs or Trumpers. Not to mention Israel and Ukraine.
>>2564381>death's throwsEmpires never collapse dramatically, there will be a period of instability until something new and more efficient is born
>>2564389that's what I meant by death's throws yeah, the new birth in this case being the death of the old empire
>>2564387US is like the head of the cartel basically, the others have to bow to them, but they're all partners in crime
>>2564392ok but what needs to be understood is that in times of crisis the state is weak and incapable of invading countries on the other side of the planet, that's largely why we aren't in a conflict with iran even at Israel's insistence. Only strong states can do strong state things. The state departments refocus from China to Venezuela is a reflection of the acknowledgement that America is no longer global hegemon and in effect is retreating to their hemispheric neighborhood where bullying is easier
Not trying to deny american warcrimes or their bloodthirsty attitude towards their neighbors but this ain't 2003 no more, America is on the retreat to their isolated corner of the world. Eurasia will pick up as the engine of history again thank god
>>2564110>>2564139He really is the world's most bipolar celebrity.
>>2564400that's just rhetoric coming directly from the State Dept. they're saying this while encouraging Japan to stoke tensions over Taiwan and selling even more weapons to NATO member countries and Ukraine. if anything this dredged up "Monroe Doctrine" excuse is just a cover-up to entrench power in our own hemisphere, root out Chinese influence (and also to support Israeli interests in LatAm), and provide a testing ground for military units and weapons systems that will be instrumental for fighting against China in the future. the war with Iran is probably going to begin next war, coinciding with the Israeli attempt to finally destroy Hezbollah.
>>2564403why are rightoids still doing this fake gay pandering bullshit
this isn't 2016
>>2564408Pretty sure Japan is a sovereign country with their own ambitions and interests that sometimes even predate american unipolarity but OK
>>2564418Do you blame Japanese warcrimes on america too?
>>2564416They're cycling through all the Islamophobia tropes while fearmongering about Mamdani and it appears they've reached "but what if you were gay in Gaza?"
>>2564418why can't Japan make a guy like this prime minster
it's either center-right stiffs or far-right ghouls
I guess it matches with them being a US colony
>>2564420Seems like you're fine with warcrimes as long as they're Amerikkkan
>>2564420>new goalpostno obviously america is not responsible for japanese war crimes. japan has been a vassal state of the burger reich only since the end of WW2. Namely you see the CIA keeping the japanese liberal democratic party in power, and you saw the plaza accords used to hamstring japanese industry in the 80s when its automotive industry became superior to america's
>>2564426Why are you constantly posting your unrelated pic? Are you so proud you found it on reddit
>>2564425So you acknowledge Japanese ambition and attempt to conquer and genocide China predates american interests in the region entirely?
>>2564430Notice how you haven't responded to anything he said
>>2564431Notice how he's deliberately missing my point
>>2564433I'm noticing that you still haven't responded to him or me
>>2564432Better organize then instead of being a leech on leftypol where you only sperg out about the heckin' third worldist you little treatler
>>2564439They should just build those on the whitehouse for real
>>2564441Instead of telling people to grow up and begging for money while being very worried about your brand you could be organizing
>>2564441something something $300 dinner date something something men are providers something something donate so i can do drugs and make porn something something
>>2564432>poor or low incomerespect to what? relative poverty, or absolute poverty?
>>2564445Did this mfer actually admit to spending 300 dollar on a date when he's in here every other week begging for money because he's on the verge of homelessness?
>>2564448not surprised considering they're letting qatar build an air force base in idaho
trump is selling out the country quite literally, using every possible avenue to enrich himself
trump does stuff that's 1000000x worse than the teapot dome scandal or iran-contra on a daily basis and it barely gets any coverage
>>2564450in his drug trafficking era, yes.
>>2564430>So you acknowledge Japanese ambition and attempt to conquer and genocide China predates american interests in the region entirely?Duh. Of course I acknowledge that. Also I am not the same anon. I only jumped in because you were both giving 1 sentence sneedposts instead of making real points.
>>2564422Haven't looked up enough about him or his party but from this video he just looks like an irredentist succdem. Probably still an improvement over the LDP ghouls and this new wannabe Rotha Orman prime minister in charge but I really don't see why he's so hyped.
>>2564428>Why are you constantly posting your unrelated picI post it every time the quality of discourse decreases on here
>Are you so proud you found it on redditI first saw it as a 4chan banner in like 2009 or something
>>2564456>>2564457>>2564450He said after he posted that he had a struggle session with his transsexual polycule and realized he had internalized toxic masculine views.
>>2564460>I post it every time the quality of discourse decreases on hereYou aren't improving the quality and you talk like a redditor.
>>2564456>>2564457Ah I see, that's not so bad then. That cringey bullshit about what a man is supposed to be and "the feeling of providing for a woman" is crazy tho. Like just date non materialistic anarchist/socialist type chicks hello?
>>2564461Lmao, wild how this guy is on here lecturing others about their political views and it took him until last month to realize he basically views women like andrew tate does
every single namefag on this site is a shit-take machine with a degenerate backstory
I filter them on sight at this point
>>2564463> Like just date non materialistic anarchist/socialist type chicks hello?i told him that back when he made the original post and he crashed out lol
>>2564463>materialistic anarchist/socialistThat's the thing, he wants to dote on and provide for women (own them) and those types of women don't want to be doted on and provided for
>>2564462If I stoop to your level you will beat me with experience.
The board is already full of low effort smugness and dismissals from people who feel correct but cannot say why they are correct or how their opposition is wrong. For me, this place presents an opportunity to clarify to myself and others, theoretical errors, and to practice conversations we will later have in real life with others who may prove to be even more stubborn and resistant to education. I want to combat the twin errors of "All Americans are Hopeless and Cannot Be Expected To Do Anything Or Held To Any Standrd" nihilism, and the "We must reform capitalism to oppose monopoly and help small businesses" reformism. Reformism and nihilism are my twin enemies because they both tell people, in different ways, that revolution is pointless or impossible. And I also think it is horrifying and stupid to tell people that they benefit from imperialism and are therefore destined to continue supporting it. As outlined in my previous points on the matter, even if that were true (it is not) it is still a strategic mistake, because if it were true that American workers benefit from imperialism, they would be obligated to oppose it on the grounds of international working class solidarity. If Engels is capable of betraying his own class interest to help the international working class, then so are American workers. But because it is not true it is not only a strategic mistake, but also a form of miseducation.
I do not want to put a band aid on American imperialism by doing rooseveltist reformism nor do I want Americans thinking they benefit from the crimes of their ruling class, and therefore doubling down in support of that ruling class. Time is running out and the last thing we need is typical "chan culture" on here of shutting everything down with thought terminating cliches, one sentence dismissals, and screeching "reddit reddit reddit" when nobody said anything having to do with that glowie shithole.
>>2564426>>2564471A agree with your point and Calvin and Hobbes is my favorite Sunday comic, but I don't think you'll convince them.
>>2564471I won't read your redditor manifestor
>>2564466Classic Houdini lmfao, he's my favorite namefag on this board for sure
>>2564469Sucks for him man, I personally think it's awesome having women provide for you
>>2564477>awesome having women provide for youamen, I'm prepared to embrace my inner househusband
>>2564353>>2564369Yes, but that’s not what the other anon is saying. That Indonesian shooter wasn’t a CIA op, and I perfectly understand why someone. Especially someone that’s actually a victim of U.S imperialism would hate the American people. But we can’t repeat the two major mistakes of the Left from the 60 onwards.
1. Waiting for U.S.S.R, china, Che, or whoever to bring righteous retribution
2. Scolding the working class and asking for repentance for not doing revolution.
Many Americans have lost their lives and livelihoods fighting the beast within. Or chewed up and spit out by the imperial capitalist machine in horrific ways.
>>2564471>thought terminating clichesI have picked up this term in my daily speech. I agree on every point. If communists have no sincerity in what we believe in and do, what the fuck does there remain?
>>2564481I mean he said he would rather stay homeless than turn tricks for hags anymore.
trump never went on the news to say
>i did not suck bill clintons dick folks i did not do it
:(
>>2564484There's still time, somebody could ask him about it
>>2563938>Dude, Communism is like chistianity but like, secular and shit bro!Idiots have been saying this since like the 1840s.
>>2563938trvth supernova. leftypol proves this point every fucking day
>>2564463>Ah I see, that's not so bad then. That cringey bullshit about what a man is supposed to be and "the feeling of providing for a woman" is crazy tho. Like just date non materialistic anarchist/socialist type chicks hello?yeah, I don't care that much about his past. I think people deserve always second chances.
>>2564456They say a man's role is to provide, sure. But capitalism twists this into a transaction, into something that's only quantifiable via direct financial success. I started this community pantry, and while I haven't been able to actually buy things for it, I am the person who sorts it, who organizes it, who puts out notices on what we have, what we need, what's being taken, what's not. Baby food actually getting taken? Might be worth letting people know someone needs that shit. Might be worth asking around, "Do you even have a stove to cook with?" when we realize we've got too many dry goods but the canned stuff gets taken right away.
The capitalist wants you to internalize a viewpoint wherein this sort of providership is invalid. After all, if you were "really getting it," you'd be the one just buying the formula. It wouldn't be a community pantry then; it would be a transaction. You're just doing charity at best, sugaring at worst. What feels better: dropping $300 on a dinner date to flex for some chick who ain't really even like ya as a person, or making sure people you actually know are having their needs taken care of?
The money trap is just that — a trap — and it's taken me a lot to start realizing that. When you're so focused on money as the measure of your personal value, you lose sight of the real ways you can provide, the real work it takes to build. You get blinded by the capitalist framework. Your value cannot be reduced down to a number; a real community is too interdependent for that. It took a lot of pillars to support the Parthenon. One pillar might be strong, might hold up one section, but if it was the only pillar? Homie, that roof is collapsing, no matter the strength.
That's why mutual aid is so powerful. You're building pillars of support in a way that the capitalist simply cannot comprehend. I'm gonna keep it a buck: I'm really not trying to be out here debating for YouTube views, or trying to finesse the algo to get that newest video posted, or see how many upvotes we can get on some Twitter-bait shitpost. I'm trying to be out here doing the damn thing. They know me, they know the clout, they know the score, but the visitor count, the readership, the audience, the notoriety, the "dirtbag leftism" ain't shit to me — ain't mean nothing if we ain't here doing the work.
Breaking down the real chains. Carrying the heavy loads. Having the hard conversations. Connecting the networks. Going to the masses. There's work to be done that must be done and will be done, and that work ain't just wage-slavery trap-house cooking in whatever kitchen — back of house, back of the alley, chicken or crack — selling and moving the money around. It only matters if you're building something bigger than yourself, something truly revolutionary.
It's about sowing the fields that the spark can catch ablaze. A single spark can start a prairie fire, but comrades, we have nothing here but concrete caskets and a bleak, overwhelming sense of alienation. Time to break down the concrete. Time to be a pillar. Time to sow the fields. That's the new energy. The grind continues, transmuted into revolutionary moxie.
—Erik Houdini
>>2563938This is true on its face and it is a problematic tendency on the left, but most of the people saying this about anyone also say this about the entire left
>>2563938wow they're right. reformism
isthe way!
>>2564492>They say a man's role is to provide, sureKinda weird to just capitulate to that statement Erik
> But capitalism twists this into a transaction, into something that's only quantifiable via direct financial successAnd then pretend there's some pure form of patriarchal providership that has now been "twisted" by capitalism to be a purely financial business, as if that's the problem with this gender role
>>2564500A man's role is to provide. Don't like the role? Become non-binary or something. I don't give a damn, I'm gonna keep doing me.
>>2564502You're basically saying a woman's role is to be provided for, to be owned like property
>>2564502you beg for money here all the time
>>2564448didn't the zionist condition the sale to the SAK? they wanted to make the sale of the planes conditioned to the Abraham accords, so that either they accepted the accords or there would be no sale.
>>2564505last week the Israelis made it clear this sale could not happen without normalisation talks with the Saudis
Looks like its happening anyway. Now Israel doesn't have tech superiority in the region. Womp womp
>>2564502>A man's role is to provide. Don't like the role? Become non-binary or something. I don't give a damn, I'm gonna keep doing me.Average self-proclaimed feminist man.
>>2564503That is a bit of a jump to go from providing to ownership.
>>2564502You are actually a sexist you fucking retard, I can't believe you have the audacity to lecture others on here while spouting reactionary shit like that
>>2564507mmmm…
….highly unusual. I think they realized that Israel can't sustain a war with Iran. they will manufacture a war between SAK+Israel against Iran.
>>2564518Perhaps. I don't think the Saudis want open conflict with Iran tbh, part of the nuclear deal being worked on includes enriched uranium being imported from Iran to fuel the nuclear reactors the Saudis are building like crazy to diversify away from oil so idk
>>2564492>They say a man's role is to provideno man, no in socialism and with science, it is not, even in a relationship with a woman.
"A man should actively work within his community, using the labor and resources provided to the benefit the masses"
>>2564524Its interesting how it's only sexist to play the role of the man. Want to be a woman? Totally fine. Be a man? Absolutely wrong.
Wonder if this discussion would shift if it was about transmen wanting to be more masculine, or would that bypass the respectibility politics?
>>2564533Not a woman so I can't tell you.
>>2564531Assuming that men and women are predestined for specific roles is sexist regardless of who it is
>>2564531It's sexist to affirm gender roles as to be men provide and women are in turn provided for. What anybody does in their personal life or what role they want to play nobody cares
>>2564524avatarfags must die
chicas
>>2564531Dunno if it's exaggerated by feminists but from what I've heard, A LOT of Korean men are insane turbo-mysogynists so them not looking like k-pop idols is the least of her worries.
It's crazy how much every namefag sucks man
>>2563963This shit doesn't work in the era of Randy Fine posting his psychotic shit 24/7
>>2564551What is that porcine bastard saying these days?
>>25645453 women, one CEO Girlboss, one Dworkinite, and one Communist, were arguing over how often moids should change diapers…
"moids should change all diapers" said the girlboss, "to make up for centuries of patriarchy"
"moids should change no diapers" said the Dworkinite, "because men are all rapists, and not to be trusted around children."
"Men should change half the diapers," said the communist, "to hold up their half of the sky."
The Dworkinite and the Girlboss then became angry and killed the Communist for being a dirty centrist.
Being a man isn't compatible with being a leftist, clearly.
>>2564558Yes anon because clearly the opinions those women hold are "We need communism" and the opinions the men in that ideological gap hold aren't "Kill all uyghurs."
>>2564542The Great and very beautiful News Anon alone remains unsullied and pure as a babe.
>>2564560I don't understand what kind of strawman you are trying to sarcastically erect. speak more clearly.
>>2564562Women are the fairer sex after all.
Revolution status?
>>2564561i assume news anon only posts news under the news anon handle and makes dogshit posts like the rest of us when Anonymous.
>>2564558It just shows the difference in voting for conservative or liberal parties in SK, as an subjective illustration of the gap in ideology between young men and women. The validity of political compass has very little to do with that
>>2564567>compassthe video is about why popular political models are trash in general, including "liberal/conservative" spectrum.
>>2564570a rapist CEO billionaire pretending to be the bigliest christian of all time might have something to do it
>>2564571Ok? It wasn't meant to illustrate a comprehensive political model, just a difference in political attitudes between men and women in SK
>>2564570Christianity is a religion that worships hate and greed. Literally. Do you hate minorities? Are you looking to get your "blessing"? you might be a christian!
>>2564570Lenin won.
Fedoras won.
>>2564573the graph is literally labelled "lib/con". that is a dogshit way to measure political opinions because both "ends" of the spectrum are reactionary
>>2564576don't jump in my conversation with your low effort rule 11 violations
>>2564531you will become le non-binary!
total moid death!!
I'd prefer it if every local politician in america was a member of the DSA. who wouldn't want that
>>2564584>who wouldn't want thatleftists
>>2564584then we would just be a european country with all the same problems european countries have
>>2564585A social democrat, a CIA agent and a native American walk into a bar…
>>2564576lol
>>2564577If you read the text at the bottom you'd see that it just measures support for liberal and conservative parties
And I didn't show the graph to show who's reactionary or not, but to show that South Korean men are mega incels, which the distinction between young men and women in this realm of capitalist parliamentarianism shows
>>2564587europe has their own different set of problems, mainly because they're a welfare state and we're not
unpopular opinion but i actually think europe is in a worse place economy and politically than america is
>>2564593What the fuck
Why is this white supremacist attacking a jewish caricature and two more POC?
>>2564603He loves mcdonalds so much
>>2564601quintessential burgerpunk
>>2564601imagine showing this clip to someone in 2014
>>2564570The 2020s are building up like the 1960s. Religious decline and our Nam:Latin edition is coming soon all without New Dealism in the back. This country will not survive the 2030s
>>2564611
isn't it obvious? when we blew up the nuclear enrichment facilities in iran a few months ago
>>2564610Erik is that you? Did you get embarrassed and take your name off?
>>2564601He sounds rough, did he get Covid again or did he meet Clinton in another broom closet?
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>>2564625>>2564613Sore throat don?
>>2564580Oh. So of course Thiel's gay too. I'm getting real tried of these literal faggots ruining everything.
>>2564630can't use that word, too sexist! this is a tumblr friendly space
>>2564580I’m pretty sure our ruling class are just sexual hedonist. They got the money to afford whatever hole they want at anytime a day.
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