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>>2563199Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2564624He probably just had some dental work done. My mom just had some done and she sounds the same. Old people tend to need a lot of dental work.
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>>2564633gay isn't a gender tho
>>2564636there is a long standing rumor, idk if it's true, that gay men are forced to transition in Iran, I think the author of the New York Post slop may be referring to that, and accusing Mamdani of that
>>2564637wheres that vid of him blasting phantom of the opera in the WH a few days ago he was probably screaming his head off over being called gay.
>>2564644when you get accused of being gay so you blast broadway music across the whole crib
>>2564637hahaha he got tilted by being exposed as a mayo gargler
>>2564642"sir… it's been a joke for the entire new season of south park"
transwoman
>oh yes my dream is to be a stay at home mom, we'd have to adopt but it really feels like something I want to do!
<based, you go girl, this is so progressive
man (trans or not)
>I want to work and provide for people, not nessicarily a family, but a community of people whom find my contributions valuable
<you fucking fascist! this is so sexist, how dare you
I wonder why the right is winning
>>2564652good strawman, anyway the original post this was made in reference to was something like "men are supposed to provide, if you don't want to do this, you can become nonbinary, i don't care" which is sexist and which does imply that women are property
>>2564652Shut up Erik you sexist pig
>>2564652what about those of us who want to be stay at home dads and get called deadbeats.
>Israel media is reporting today that talks with #Syria have broken down, as Netanyahu's gov't refuses to withdraw from the ~200sqkm it occupied on December 8, 2024.
<Syria (& the Trump admin) has demanded a return to the 1974 lines of control.Seems like Gaynazi poster was right about Jolani
https://xcancel.com/Charles_Lister/status/1990509007392677955?s=19 >>2564660they've broken down talks with syria
>>2564660So is the neoliberal jihad guy not a complete cuck after all?
>3 days of burger exceptionalism (burgers are good version) vs. burger exceptionalism (burgers are evil version)
>now we must massdebate about gender
The right is winning because they offer a path to disaffected men, wherein the left says men shouldn't even identify with the label of "man".
>>2564660gay nazi wasn't right about jolani, it's just that israel is insane and wants to take over the entire middle east, which it calls "greater israel"
>>2564663what do you wanna talk about anon<3
>>2564665the official left position is genocide to literally all the moids everywhere all at once fucking kill yourself incel fuck off stop shitting the place up
>>2564666I don't think anons here are ready to admit that Israel and America's separate interests have diverged in the middle east
>>2564670How is Israel going to survive without USA? Just hold everyone hostage with nukes
>>2564670AmeriKKKa and Syria will cuck out to Israel, as always.
>>2564670phrasing it as such fails to capture the intricacy of the situation. there is no such thing as USA or Israel interests there is only the interests of the capitalist class of either of each nation which in reality in neither case is invested really in the romanticized ideal of the political project of either nation. they want first and foremost more institutional power, leverage, control, money.
>>2564672If that was gonna happen we'd be at war with iran, the war Israel started with the expectation america would join but didn't
>>2564670I’ve been thinking there might be a deep state revolt for some time now. It would some liberal restoration shit where they try bring back the Obama era or something. I mean any general or governor that can plausibly say they weren’t involved with Epstein shit and isn’t a turbo Zionist would have the mandate to march in Washington and start rounding up most of capital hill for high treason.
>>2564671I think Israel is genuinely seething that Trump didn't join the war against Iran and they were forced to sue for peace. Time to cozy up with India I guess.
>>2564676Is Chariman Milley in the Epstein files?
I'm just saying guys, if America was prepping the region for Israeli domination, selling your cutting edge technology to the Saudis is the last thing they'd do
The strike on Doha was the nail in the coffin for the permanent israeli-american Vision for the region that existed for a brief moment in history
>>2564519That quote specifically classifies married women with no legal rights as proles not slaves. But are wives who legally own half of the husband's property really proles? And do married women who just boss around domestic servants count as labor aristocracy, petite bourgeoisie or bourgeoisie?
>>2564674Every nation has their own unique historical interests and ambition on top of their collaboration within the international bourgeoise that plays to their class interests
>>2564671>How is Israel going to survive without USA?Well, Naftali Bennet famously said U.S aid shackles their hands and limits their opportunities for engagement. No doubt there are many ultranationalists in Israel who would welcome autarky so as to take the gloves off
>>2564688Israelis have been getting high on their own supply for far too long. Iran gave them a black eye but I think they still believe they could "win" an all-out conflict if America "didn't hold them back" when in reality they were 24 hours away from Tel Aviv looking like Gaza.
>>2564685a country is not an agent. a country is made up people, more importantly their state and political apparatus' are made up of people, each with their own interests. in the case of both the USA and Israel the people in political positions of power are also regional and international bourgeoisie who will serve primarily their own class interests. they can seldom sell the pursuit of those interests as pursuit of the interests of the nation when they sorta kinda align (with a lot of propagandizing).
>>2564689you have to walk into the building, look the manager in the eye, give them a firm handshake, and say "I would be honored to contribute to your establishment, sir."
>>2564692You have to do that, but like a dozen times until they cave and give you a job. My bro got his first job at whole foods that way. They just hit him with the "apply online" the first time and he kept coming back until the manager of the fish section got him the job.
>>2564691>a country is not an agentSir are you not aware this country is a single man military dictatorship? In this case the countries interests are Trump's interests. He may represent the interests of the international bourgeoise, but he is not beholden to them
>>2564684in a world of AI face changers, someone dared to do an old fashioned photoshop
>>2564694well i guess now we're entering a philosophical discussion of whether or not USA interests means the interests of whomever is in power or that of the majority of it's people. while many burgers will technically benefit from the maintenance of the USA global hegemony their
best interest would be served by an inward looking national development policy. which is not what blumpf would ever implement
>>2564697I'd agree with that. And it makes me glad the american bourgeoise is making every wrong decision possible, makes the job of revolution way easier
>>2564697>while many burgers will technically benefit from the maintenance of the USA global hegemonyHow even?
>>2564652>>2564658the absolute fucking state of this shithole
>>2564704>the absolute fucking state of this shitholeHe's right. Well at least the chan type trans from here and 4chan. They'll be the first to say a woman looks like a man or that a transwoman doesn't pass.
>>2564658>The trans community is often guilty of perpetuating gender essentialism too tbf. >>2564660fwiw
>>2564670>>2564666Whether Jolani wants to reach some kind of agreement with Israel (I'm not sure about this, I suppose it's possible), just read Israeli posts and commenters. Many admit they'd like to keep Syria disunified and chaotic, to give them "freedom of action" just in case a unified Syria is "not their friend." Israel has also occupied Mt. Hermon and tried to bring the Druze in southern Syria under their umbrella, which is also a statement to Erdogan and Jolani that they're going to protect their little sectarian enclave in the south and bomb Damascus whenever they want to. The fall of Assad also now means the Turks and Israelis are now butting up against each other, and suffice to say that they don't like each other these days, to put it mildly.
The Israelis are also lobbying in Washington to get the U.S. to support a decentralized Syria with regional autonomy for the minorities. The U.S. and CENTCOM does not support this. The U.S. wants a centralized government under Jolani and is starting to pull the plug on the YPG. But the U.S. also wants to play an intermediating role like during the Cold War. The U.S. wants to deal with Erdogan who is the single most powerful leader in the Middle East, and that's the reality.
So what happened, from my point of view, is that Assad remnants backed by Iran made a push a few months ago to topple Jolani, and they were trying to convince the U.S. to support them because some Christians have been killed by takfiri jihadi guys associated with Jolani, and they played that aspect up, but then Jolani's government called for a jihad through the mosques, and the jihadis went to the coastal areas and killed those guys along with a lot of civilians.
But that's a humanitarian issue, it's not the number one strategic concern for the U.S., which is to defeat Iran, and the U.S. is trying to explain this to the Israelis, and the Americans tell the Israelis they don't know what they're doing or what the hell they're talking about. But that's because objectively (and as weird as it sounds), Israel and Iran now have the same interests in Syria, both have an interest in keeping Syria fragmented (and also keeping the Turks out). Not that Israel and Iran are allies of any sort, but that's why there's this weird alignment between these ex-regime supporters and Israel shills who are screaming about Jolani killing Christians.
>>2564706I largely agree with your point except when it comes to isolationism. economical self sufficiency is one thing, but we should always have a political stake in what happens in over in the strategic battlefield of Eurasia even if it means warfare
>>2564707that's a problem with /tttt/ being a transphobic fascist psyop, not because trans people are all gender essentialists. that shit is literally a "gender critical" TERF dogwhistle.
>>2564637His hair is white as hell did he forget to dye it?
>>2564709I don't understand the motivation Iran would have to keep syria destabilized
>>2564713not wanting another american proxy state in the region?
>>2564660what is al-ziolani gonna do? declare a jihad?
>Gaynazi poster was right about Jolanithat's not what he said, tho. he said that al ziolani wasn't a zionist op. that he demands back the territorial control Syria had isn't
opposing the zionist regime, it's what al ziolani is going to do right after he gets cockblocked by the zionists after his demands aren't attended.
>>2564715Unified american friendly state or destabilized state prepped like a thanksgiving turkey for greater israel, choose one
also don't they have supply lines to Hezbollah to worry about
>>2564709>Turks and Israelis are now butting up against each other, and suffice to say that they don't like each other these daysTurkiye never stopped selling oil to Israel. never.
>The U.S. and CENTCOM does not support this. The U.S. wants a centralized government under Jolani and is starting to pull the plug on the YPGthat's more Turkiye, which exerts its influence in nato, being the second largest army, and the nation that brought in chaos inside Syria in the necessary way.
>>2564724>Turkiye never stopped selling oil to Israel. never.Have the kurds?
>>2564721it's not really in Iran's interest to let the US/EU secure the route for Saudi's land pipeline to Europe through Syria.
>>2564675>If that was gonna happen we'd be at war with iranwhy? Iran has no interests inside Syria now. all of its proxies are gone.
>the war Israel started with the expectation america would join but didn'tare we forgetting that the US bombed Iran?
>>2564727>are we forgetting that the US bombed IranNot convinced the bombing got rid of irans nuclear program, which was the whole point. Israel was definitely expecting an iraq-style invasion with regime change but the Americans didn't bite, because their interests have diverged
>>2564725As far I am aware, from the scarce sources within American oil think tanks, the Kurds inside Syria sold most of their oil to Syria under the ba'ath rule, and some went through Iraq crossing the border. I am not sure if they sold oil to the zionists, taking into consideration that most likely Israel oil infrastructure wasn't designed for Syria's oil, but for Caspian oil. Syria's oil is too heavy for the Israel processing infrastructure.
usually you understand what oil a country can process depending on their globally available data purchases.
>>2564727>are we forgetting that the US bombed Iran?Trump deliberately fucked up that bombing and then noped the fuck out of the war as a way to strong-arm Israel into suing for peace. There's no fucking way the Israelis or Americans destroyed Iran's nuclear program.
>>2564706>>2564710Funny enough that was basically Oswald Mosley’s “solution” to the issue of over production of commodities and imperialism. Basically he just envisioned the world being segmented into different autarkic markets focused solely on trying to balance their own production and consumption.
>>2564706>America is a fucking powerhouse. America could completely survive as a closed eco-system based on the labor-force, resources, and technology it already has. ironically, russia is the only country with a large domestic stockpile of every periodic element and most natural resources
>>2564726So america wants to build the pipeline, and Israel, by destabilizing Syria, is working against it. Very interesting how these two groups of bourgeoise do not agree
>>2564711Don't like TERFs but gender abolitionism seems to me more revolutionary than 99% of queer theory. Sorry not sorry.
>>2564738America's geopolitical goal in the region is cheap Saudi oil for Europe so they can eliminate Russia's influence.
Israel's geopolitical goal is Greater Israel and the total ethnic cleansing of all Muslims.
They align most of the time but Israel funnily never cooperates when America tries to get them on board with its plans. Israel pretty much only helps the US when it comes to killing Muslims.
This would be more obvious if America's government weren't totally bought off by Zionist groups, but oftentimes Israel's ambitions are harmful to American interests.
>>2564706>>2564735>>2564741>self-sufficiency and isolation in fucking capitalismThe shit I have to read here man…
>>2564739For TERFs "gender abolition" is just a way to give a progressive veneer to their transphobia. They still hold onto old reactionary views on gender and sex in their own way. Just look at how they collaborate with conservatives and traditionalists.
>>2564743>gender abolition" is just a way to give a progressive veneer to their transphobia"Gender abolition" is such an irrelevant purely academic issue. Like surely normal people can see the difference between trans people trying to be more comfortable with themselves and expecting women to i.e. be all day in the kitchen.
wtf is the mcdonald's summit
>>2564710why are american leftists so imperialist?
>>2564748The country must be deloused.
fizzle status?
>>2564743I've met a decent amount of genuine Marxist women that leftypol would call "TERFs" even though they're active in Marxist circles, have fought for gender equality since before trans was even a political issue, and still care about trans peoples' human rights. It's just something some people will never agree on, and I don't really like discounting the lived experiences of cisgender women just because it invalidates some aspects of queer theory.
>>2564744Exactly, I don't see why we can't have trans people and treat them as human while also acknowledging that trans people are doing all their "gender affirming" stuff out of choice instead of some innate biological instinct to wear pink.
Are we going to invade venezuela?
>>2564716He crashing out fr
>>2564744I think I got a solution, we pitch a multi-choice board of acceptable family formations. For example
>straights<the vanilla choice, nothing wrong with a classic >gay/les couples<a bit spicier but a safe choice >freelance <figuring things out putting in the hours>the solo<comes with self-satisfaction Something like that someone can finish the bit. Point is capitalism is great at breaking down bad social constructs and offering an avenue out. It also monetizes our worse impulses. Relationships and lifestyles, sexual orientations, fetishizes. All become commodities. And humans love building communities around their favorite commodities.
>>2564744>"Gender abolition" is such an irrelevant purely academic issue.No, academics generate ideas and concepts that end up spilling over to larger society given enough of a push. To dismiss something simply because it's currently limited to some small academic corner is short sighted.
>>2564777so progressive :)
>>2564775That white boy got some kissable lips
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