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>>2571257Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 206 posts and 26 image replies omitted.>>2573647Utterly and thoroughly defeated and beaten to the ground(for now). Right now everyone is hoping socdems are not gonna follow their own imperialist and capital interests
>>2573643The capital of the people’s republics of Americas will be in Havan. Reactionaries will be deported to the gulf of America
>>2573650I've thought about that issue too. A lot of people in Latam and other parts of the world aren't gonna buy it if we have a socialist revolution and we suddenly go to them
>hi we're better nowBuilding positive relationships with the rest of the world is going to take a long, long, long time
>>2573657internationalism will have to wait until america actually gets its shit together, and by then it will have been long enough since the abolition of the CIA that the rest of the world can rest easy.
>>2573651the US already control Latin America. their ruling classes are
unified. culturally speaking, too.
>>2573657Revolutionary Russia faced the same issue. Not only did the international bourgeoisie invade with a 14-nation coalition because they wanted to push Russia back into WW1, as they had been fighting under the Tsar and then under Kerensky's provisional government, but even after WW1, there was an insistence that the USSR was just Great Russian Chauvinism with red paint. Any dictatorship of the proletariat which only exists in one country will ultimately have to face the dilemma of living in a world that is mostly still bourgeois and nationalist. Even if America is "destroyed" and you create an entirely new socialist country on top of America where America used to be, people will say "This is just America."
>>2573656Havana as the capital would be so badass man
Russian Oil Tanker Evades US Navy To Reach Venezuela | Newsweek
A sanctioned Russian oil tanker has reportedly reached Venezuela following several route changes and attempts to evade U.S. naval interception in the Caribbean Sea. The ship anchored at Puerto La Cruz, a port city on the South American country's northeastern coast, according to global shipping news outlets.
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The tanker arrived despite a large U.S. naval presence in the Caribbean, part of ongoing counter-drug operations and increased pressure on Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro’s regime. Since 2019, the U.S. has targeted the regime with sanctions on its state-owned oil company, Petróleos de Venezuela, and by monitoring foreign companies and shadow fleets transporting oil to the country.
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The Seahorse, a tanker built in 2004 and sanctioned by the UK and the European Union, arrived in Venezuela on Sunday, the Maritime Executive reported. Earlier this month, the ship made a U‑turn off the coast of Venezuela after the USS Stockdale destroyer intersected its course.
It has reportedly been in the Caribbean since October, but turned away several times due to U.S. interception, though there were no reports of a confrontation. Its presence has been located in the vicinity of Cuba and areas near Puerto Rico. The Seahorse followed a second sanctioned tanker that also reached Venezuela over the weekend, the Russian-flagged tanker Vasily Lanovoy, according to the Maritime Executive.
Most International Airlines Servicing Venezuela Suspend Flights as US Intensifies Pressure
Caracas, November 24, 2025 (venezuelanalysis.com) – Multiple international airlines have suspended flights to and from Caracas amidst a heightened US military presence in the Caribbean, after the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) issuance of a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) Friday.
Iberia (Spain), TAP (Portugal), LATAM (Chile), Avianca (Colombia) and Turkish Airlines (Turkey) were among the companies to cancel upcoming flights connecting the Venezuelan capital to international destinations.
At the time of writing, Venezuelan airlines Avior, Laser, Estelar and state-owned Conviasa continue to service foreign destinations. The Copa Airlines-operated flight from Caracas to Panama City, one of the region’s main connection hubs, remains active as well.
The airlines’ cancellations were in response to an FAA NOTAM that urged “caution” in Venezuela’s Maiquetía Flight Information Region (FIR) due to a “worsened security situation and heightened military activity.”
<Venezuela’s FIR covers the country’s territory and a section of the Caribbean Sea north of Caracas.
Since August, the Donald Trump administration has amassed military assets in the region on a self-declared anti-narcotics mission. The large-scale deployment presently includes the USS Gerald R. Ford, the world’s largest aircraft carrier, guided-missile destroyers, aircraft and around 15,000 troops.
US fighter jets and bombers have repeatedly flown inside the Maiquetía flight information region, often with transponders turned off. The FAA issued similar NOTAMs for Curazao and Puerto Rico FIRs, though no flight cancellations have been reported. All three warnings are in place until February 2026. The contiguous areas could provide US aircraft with a corridor from bases in Puerto Rico to Venezuelan territory.
US forces have destroyed 22 vessels that US officials claimed were carrying US-bound drugs, killing 83 civilians in the process. Nevertheless, US authorities have not disclosed evidence of the boats’ cargoes or crews. UN experts have labeled the bombings as extrajudicial executions.
The US’ Caribbean military deployment recently affected maritime trade as well, with Bloomberg reporting that oil tanker Seahorse saw its path blocked by a US warship on November 14 as it attempted to deliver a cargo of naphtha to a Venezuelan port.
The Cameroon-flagged Seahorse made a U-turn and waited close to Aruba before finally making its way to Puerto La Cruz in Eastern Venezuela and arriving on Sunday.
<Poll finds widespread opposition to US military intervention
Trump and administration officials have repeatedly threatened to strike alleged drug trafficking targets inside Venezuelan territory, though the US president recently also raised the possibility of engaging in talks with the Nicolás Maduro government.
On Saturday, Reuters reported that Washington was set to launch a “new phase of Venezuela-related operations,” according to anonymous officials. Two of the sources said covert operations would “likely” be the first part of the plan. However, the officials did not provide any information about the purported new phase nor whether Trump had approved it.
The military escalation reports coincided with the arrival of General Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to Puerto Rico, where US bases have likewise witnessed a buildup and heightened activity in recent weeks. Caine is reported to be one of the architects of Operation Southern Spear.
While Trump is said to remain undecided on potential direct attacks against Venezuela, a new CBS News/YouGov poll found that 70 percent of US citizens “would oppose” military action against the South American country.
The survey additionally found dissatisfaction with the administration’s lack of explanations surrounding its military buildup and boat strikes. Nevertheless, a majority of respondents agreed with using military force against vessels suspected of carrying US-bound drugs.
The White House has justified its military buildup and threats against Venezuela on “narcoterrorism” charges against Maduro and other high-ranking officials. A reward for information leading to the Venezuelan president’s capture was raised to US $50 million in August.
On Monday, a State Department designation of the Cartel de los Soles as a foreign terrorist organization came into effect. US officials have repeatedly claimed that Maduro directly commands the so-called cartel.
However, Washington has never provided court-tested evidence of the organization’s existence or of any involvement of Venezuelan government and military officials in narcotics activities. The Maduro government issued a statement Monday condemning the foreign terrorist designation as a “ridiculous hoax” from Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
“It would be foolish for the Venezuelan government to waste its precious time responding to these slanders,” the communique read. Caracas went on to urge the US to “rectify its policy of attacks and threats.”
Reports from both the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) and the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) have indicated that Venezuela plays only a marginal role in narcotics trafficking, with most US-bound cocaine arriving via the Pacific and Central America.
>>2573657I'd say a socialist revolution happening in the first place presumes a degree of international solidarity between the working classes and the political organs meant to lead them towards such a social revolution, so at least a degree of solidarity between the working classes is a precondition rather than something to be worked in later. There were a lot of proletarian uprisings in Germany following WW1 and the October Revolution, but at the same time, the war split the Second Internationale over the issue of national chauvinism and later over a proposal by Vladimir Lenin to turn the imperialist war into a civil war. It succeeded in Russia, but elsewhere it was defeated, in part because of this split.
>>2573664Socialisms in one country? No. Socialism in one continent
>>2573676that's still localized unfortunately. i don't know how you overcome the various ingroup chauvinisms (nation, ethnicity, religion, language, etc.) to build international proletarian solidarity except through relentless education. But the various bourgeois reactionaries are afforded much larger and louder megaphones.
>>2573664the counterargument to this is that the western bourgeois have put so much of their eggs in one proverbial basket(america) that if it falls they very well may have nowhere to flee.
>Europecompletely dependent on America for treats and military protection
>Middle Eastentire oil economy propped up by America's insistence on preventing green energy to protect profits
>South Americaalready arguably full of socialists that are just held down by the CIA's meddling
>Asiaready for China to take over once America leaves
where will the bourgeois retreat to? australia?
Argument and debate won't create the conditions for socialism, fostering support for class struggle creates the conditions for socialism. It is only when those who can/could take the bourgeois hostage through strike action decide a change in the mode of production is preferable to meagre concessions that all the non-political and ideologically blinded types melt away
>>2573680>where will the bourgeois retreat to?where labor is the cheapest 🇮🇳🇮🇩🇳🇬
>>2573685The bourgeois have been doing that since the 80's, anon.
>>2573687They build iphones in nigeria?
>>2573679>>2573676Internationalism is about building momentum. You start locally then grow until your national and then international after that. This is in contrast to the preferred form of online radicals who just declare internationalism hegemonic and demand you turn against your community because of international commitments.
>>2573689Where do you think the materials for your iphone come from?
>>2573685the bourgeois will quickly find that those countries have been so deprived of wealth that even they won't want to live in india.
>>2573693India isn't all bad. There were raves every night on the beach in Goa it was lit
>>2573697those are climate change doomsday bunkers to avoid the crises of their own making. new zealand won't protect them from the international proletariat.
>>2573695i'm sure the war department or some NGO funds channels like these indirectly. there's no way this kind of nationalist shilling is purely compensated with ad revenue.
>>2573699i agree I was just answering the question
>>2573700You'd be surprised.
>>2573680>once America leaveswhere will the bourgeois retreat to? australia?
That’s how mad max happens, everything outside of Australia is FALSC.
The bourgeois have nowhere to retreat to once America gives up trying to compete. Because America will not give up trying to compete. They will simply use nastier tactics.
>>2573690>online radicals who just declare internationalism hegemonic and demand you turn against your community because of international commitments.That's not even internationalism in the first place, most of the time it's just radical liberalism
At this point these hyper-capitalists who have more money than the kings of 17th century Europe aren't even trying to hide the fact they know the end stage of current western capitalist dominance is fucking large-scale warfare. These people aren't stupid. They must have been told by some TINA austrian school crackpot economist that the stunt in growth can only be repaired by economic and potentially real warfare against nations with resources, any semblance of an industry and that don't play by Americas trading rules.
>>2573715> the stunt in growth can only be repaired by economic and potentially real warfare against nations with resourcesThey've known this since before WW2. Read
Fascism and Social Revolution by Rajani Palme Dutt, especially chapter 3. Imperialist war is war for natural resources, and war to install compradors willing to given them up cheaply. It is also wear to destroy excess means of production and commodities, to suppress real wages by artificial scarcity.
>>2573718no anon is saying that at all
>>2573718>, once they rape Venezuela they’ll go after Cuba, then Nicaragua, then Mexico, then Brazil, then any country you can think of until the United States collapses.They already go after any country which inconveniences the USA and its allies. This is why Mossadegh in Iran and Arbenz in Guatemala were overthrown in the 50s, not because they were socialist, but merely because they supported nationalization and land reform. The US went after Saddam because he nationalized resources, and Gaddafi for trying to make a gold back pan-African currency.
>>2573721he's answering the question in the OP
remember to always purity test. always be purity testing. unironically.
What resource does Cuba have that America needs?
>>2573726sugar for treats
>inb4 China gives Cuba weaponry that isn't 60+ years old and we get a new Cuban Missile Crisis
>>2573728china has been giving cuba solar panels lately, for free. lots of them, especially after the recent hurricanes.
>>2573730I know that's the point. China can fly into Havana now with a cargo plane full of stuff and completely get away with it. It was unthinkable 30 years ago but now China can just give Cuba whatever it wants and not really have to worry about the consequences. And I'm sure as BRICS gets stronger the fear of American blacklisting from helping Cuba will disappear completely.
>>2573726Let's reframe the question. What do the workers of America have that the Cuban workers need? Security? Resources? Like almost everything?
>>2573726Nothing, that's why it hasn't been bombed to mush despite being a nominally hostile nation next door
>>2573726a strategic position in the carribbean
>>2573654Nah, people are nice and cool once you stop enslaving their countries. You can just renounce imperialist claims and people will like you, that's what Bolsheviks did with the Karakhan Manifesto. The only people who want such things as blood feuds and lasting hatred to exist are the ruling classes.
>>2573729>>2573738Aside from this snaKKKes want to sieze cuba deveoped socialist economy as treats
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