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In today's news, Donald Trump pardoned and freed from prison one of the world's worst drug dealers, the former dictator of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández (JOH), who was convicted of trafficking 400 tons of cocaine and machine guns into the US, while simultaneously accusing Maduro of similar crimes, without evidence…

You know they say there's like the alt-right pipeline I've had like the complete opposite. The more I engage with people from places like 4chan and Twitter. I move more to the left because of how idiotic they are

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I just don't like hasbara, simple as
I see a hasbara campaign attacking a candidate, I critically support that candidate

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>>2582958
Class in America seems really strange as a non yank. Everyone over there pretends to be middle class and they don't consider you working class unless you're a garbage man you can hardly find working class characters on TV or in movies. But then you get silver spoon kids like Jake Paul or this Platner guy pretending to be working class, choosing a working class lifestyle (dropping out of school, joining the army, becoming a pro boxer) so they can live out their warrior/Rocky Balboa larp.

>>2582969
How is what we are saying about Graham hasbara propaganda? Literally talking about his service in the military, his opinions about wars and documenting the things he has said. How in the world is that propaganda

>>2582973
I never used the word propaganda
actually very telling that you're using a template response lol

>>2582977
What template am I using dude? Like take your medication?

>>2582973
most of it is prolly coming from Mills' campaign team with the usual AIPAC funding and technology associated with their support, just a guess

>>2582977
And the phrase hasbara is regarding propaganda

>>2582980
You believe that on this forum with like 200 people, there is a political candidate paying people to come here and talk about how this guy's military service his opinions and stating what he has said. This is what you believe

>>2582982
Yes Zionist I really believe that. Welcome to like 1993

>>2582983
How is it Zionist to talk about these things?

>>2582906
>That doesn't mean it's socialist
so no privatized companies? neoliberalism hasn't put a foothold on its state? good.
Socialism is enshrined in Vietnam's constitution, thus they are looking forward for it.
In fact, the communist party of Vietnam is the sole ruler of Vietnam, constitutionally enshrined. No other political parties are allowed to operate.
your claim requires more that vibes and feelings.

>>2582969
>it's hasbara to notice graham platner's stepbrother is an aipac guy
lol ok buddy

>>2582979
>no response to being caught

>>2582981
why would he not specifically address the hasbara accusation instead of using a generic response against "propaganda" which is not a word I used? propaganda is a meaningless word regardless, it does not define the truth of it, it is merely a manipulation of information towards a specific end - that end is what matters here
you are trying to derail this into a semantics argument instead of addressing the crux of this issue - this is clearly a hasbara campaign against an anti-Zionist candidate in favor of a pro-Zionist candidate
thus it's not complicated, you critically support the anti-Zionist candidate
I consider it hasbara because there's clearly posters here dedicated to attacking platner at every possible opportunity - why him in particular given the amount of ghouls that exist in US politics? it's a motivated attack

>>2582986
Just admit to me straight up you'd rather have Mills win, there's nothing to be ashamed about

>>2582992
Getting caught with what? This is how I write.

>>2582992
You are calling about these topics hasbara. I am asking how is it that. Then you called me a Zionist randomly afterwards.

>>2582993
You sound like the people who said if you don't vote Kamala you support trump

>>2582982
yes lol, there are literally third-worlders getting paid to post propaganda on social media, non-stop
anonymous imageboards make it even easier because there's no account creation or any form of public identification
i'm sure this is just one of many places they stop at, the stuff they post takes only a few seconds to craft

>>2582996
You are aligned with Mills interests and therefore the Israeli lobby. You are a Zionist.

>>2582998
Okay so then if we critique platner regarding wars, his views, statements and opinions it can only be we are paid by aipac, doing hasbara, Zionist and paid by this ladies team

>>2583000
No I am not. I don't agree with her on anything. Again you sound exactly like Democrats blaming people on left and Muslims for Kamala losing

>>2582980
Did mills also pay graham platner to marry a woman whose brother is an aipac guy.

did mills pay platner to work for blackwater in 2018

did mills pay platner to volunteer 4 times to destroy 2 countries that israel doesn't like?

>>2582995
you weren't asking about hasbara, you gave a template response about propaganda
you seem to have some trouble understanding the difference between intent and action

>>2583005
What does a template response mean? This is how I write and speak.

>>2583007
ignore this dude. he's coping hard. You're "Zionist" for noticing this dude worked for platner and has an aipac stepbro and volunteered to help destroy saddam's iraq, which was despised by israel

>>2583004
Go ahead and admit to me that you'd rather have Mills win. It's really easy to. I can wait

>>2582973
It is propaganda. Anti-imperialist propaganda is correct.

>>2583011
What was propaganda? Everything I have said about platner is true.

>>2583010
i want mills to lose but I also want you to acknowledge that this guy probably isn't "communist" like he pretends to be

>>2583015
>i want mills to lose
That's all I needed. The platnerposting will continue

>>2583014
fight agency, who manages platner's campaign, also managed fetterman's campaign. fight agency specializes in fake outsider candidates.

>>2583015
And sure I don't have an issue admitting he's not a scientific socialist and probably not a revolutionary either. that's not what makes him valuable

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>>2583022
What makes him valuable?

>>2582969
> I critically support that candidate
<look inside
>I uncritically support this candidate and if you criticize him in any way you're a zionist
hmmmmmmm

>>2582964
>>2582964
>How is that relevant in any shape or form, when one has to look at the kind of relationship that dominates the entire economy
see: >>2582990
it does, when your political structure aims for socialism. neolibaralism a.k.a. laissez-faire economy rebranded was minted to counter socialism through the ideological prostitution of sciences from hayek and milton friedman. this was pushed hard through the IMF and the World Bank, whenever a country was in financial distress, often caused by the west through economic and political pressures. countries that don't uphold socialism through higher degrees of political commitment privatized their state-owned companies and abandoned their sovereignty to some few corporations. how, for example, you know that the PSOE is not S in Spain? because they let and led massive privatizations during the 80s, 90s, and onwards. same with the British labor party, where no strategic companies belong to the Spanish people or British people. these companies answer only to Wall Street.
Vietnam is as socialist as they can.

>>2583024
Disrupting the democratic establishments ideological line, cultivating the anti-israel bloc in congress, elevating 'socialist' (please realize that means different things to different people) discourse, just to name a few

>>2583030
What socialistic discourse is he elevating and how would he be disrupting the establishment

>>2583030
>Disrupting the democratic establishments ideological line
by running as a democrat and letting john fetterman's campaign agency managing his campaign,
>cultivating the anti-israel bloc in congress,
by hanging out with his AIPAC stepbrother
>elevating 'socialist' (please realize that means different things to different people) discourse,
his campaign promises include "rebuilding" the american military and "closing the naval gap" with China. It's hawkish bullshit
>just to name a few
I can name way more shit that's sus, how zionist of me to notice his zionist family members who he hangs out and shoots guns with on the regular. How zionist of me to notice he praises azov battalion and worked for blackwater less than a decade ago. how zionist of me to notice he volunteered for zionist occupations of the middle east under a zionist president during the zionist so called "war on terror" which was a war OF terror

>>2583030
> (please realize that means different things to different people)
to some people it means rebuilding american imperialism and elevating small business owners

>>2583032
Because AIPAC likes politicians on their payroll silly guy

>>2583037
You did not answer the question. What socialistic discourse is he elevating and how is he disrupt the establishment

Tell me the discourse please

>>2583035
What part of 'capitalism is doomed to fail' don't you understand. This includes small business too. power will fall to the communists inevitably no matter what opinions about small businesses socialists have.

>>2583038
different anon here. he is not elevating socialist discourse at all. he is simply redefining socialism to mean anti-monopoly reforms (meant to elevate small business owners, petty bourgeois class interests) and "rebuilding america's military" (i.e. making the imperialist war machine more efficient to compete with China).

>>2583038
>how is he disrupt the establishment
Because he's not on aipacs payroll, which most establishment democrats are

>>2583040
how does electing petty bourgeois war criminals who call themselves socialist hasten capitalism's decline in the US, especially when they want to breathe longer life into american capitalism by eradicating its most self destructive tendencies?

>>2583042
Tell me the socialistic discourse he is elevating.

>>2583042
>Because he's not on aipacs payroll
his step brother literally is. and he is friends with his step brother. He literally has a vector in his family through which aipac money can easily reach him covertly. Also the fight agency, who managed the campaign of ultra zionist john fetterman, manages his campaign.

>>2583044
The alternative is a 79 year old AIPAC lawyer who wants to extend the lifespan of the empire

>>2583048
You sound like people who said we need to vote Kamala or Hillary. Did you vote for them?

>>2583046
>he thinks the Israeli lobby runs candidates against each other
Comedy

>>2583048
>replace the senile 80 year old zionist who might die in office with the the 40 year old zionist who has fresh blood on his sword and pretends to be leftist after a "change of heart" PR stunt that happened conveniently right before he ran for office
lol only a child would fall for this. go ahead and VOOT for your younger, stronger, more competent zionist, and make sure to call everyone a zionist who sees through this.

>>2583049
The Zionist pick was Donald trump so yeah in this scenario you're also the Zionist lol

>>2583050
Do you think in primaries only one candidates is backed by them?

>>2583050
>the israel lobby would NEVER run two pro-israel candidates to give people a false choice

>>2583053
Did you vote for Kamala? And not voting third party or not voting does not make you a Zionist.

>>2583053
Also Kamala and Hillary are Zionist.

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These two are LITERALLY the same!!!!!!

So the guy shilling platner also said if you don't vote Kamala and Hillary you are a Zionist. He gave away his game here

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>>2583058
he doesn't need to take aipac money directly when he has his trusty stepbrother seth frantzman to bring him some of that lobby dough during his frequent visits to his secluded oyster ranch where they fire guns together and reminisce

>>2583061
so you're ready to admit you'd rather have the non-AIPAC sponsored candidate lose?

>>2583062
We dont care. We dont ride dick.

>>2583066
where are you from dickrider anon

>>2583058
Planter is a glowie man, he’s gonna Fetterman us. However the fact the ruling class feels they need to up the ante and start running fake socialist is a good thing. They’re losing and on the back foot and we have to keep pushing. We have to get more anti-Nazi and link Zionism to Nazism and make sure people understand even on a rudimentary level that all their problems stem from these anti-social, Anti-communist ghouls. The only way out, the only path of salvation is a workers revolution. The worker class must seize the means of production from these psychopathic leeches.

>>2583062
>so you're ready to admit you'd rather have the non-AIPAC sponsored candidate lose?
I've already explained to you several times that I want Mills to lose, but I also want you to acknowledge that Platner probably isn't much better, and could, potentially, be a complete liar about his "change of heart" based on everything we know about his life. But you are not only incapable of understanding this, but pretend any criticism of Platner is veiled Zionism.

This guy is trying the if you don't vote Democrat you voted for trump. He even said trump is the Zionist candidate so if you did not vote Kamala or Hillary you are a Zionist

This guy is not interested in discussing policy at all, views or what the person will do. You need to hold your nose and vote for his guy. You can't judge him now or you are a bad guy.

That's the platner shill posting the last 2 threads. His views.

>>2583068
Fetterman was always bad. He had over a decade in politics before he got hyped, and his shitty reputation was known in pennsylvania

>>2583074
And with platner you learned he exist 2 months ago

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>>2583077
It is 100% fact. He came on the scene 2 months ago. There is no way you knew about him before and he created all his social media in August. Tell me I am wrong. You knew about him before September?

So Trump's basically out and out said he stands with Hegseth on the double-tap strike, so I'm kind of wondering if this could form the basis for a "legal" coup. Like if the army is required to disobey illegal orders (yes yes, I know it's not that simple and they break the law all the time) and the admin is openly saying "Do illegal stuff, don't question it" then unironically couldn't some middle officer or general have a means to just forcibly remove Trump and his cronies from office?

>>2583079
theoretically you are correct, but in reality they have no incentive to break the law when it comes to couping their own government and every incentive to break the law when it comes to couping foreign civilians.

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>>2583014
American snakes are trained into thinking that propaganda is synonym for lies and not just information that may or may not be correct. It is simply their constant attempt to equate truth with lies. Socialist propaganda is systematic scientific explanation of the world. Know they are propagandists of imperialism and chauvinism and be proud when they call you propagandist. Take this medal for sowing truth, fighting social fascist chauvinism, and propagating Lenin Thought

>>2582969
nice bait

>>2583079
seems unlikely to me but maybe if hegseth is shitty enough they'll push to get rid of him

>>2583081
Oh for sure the incentives are towards reaction and—personally?—I’m not sure that we have a general ambitious enough for it. Yknow the guys behind the Coup in Operation Valkyrie, they were old Prussian style Junkers IIRC; they had these ideas of aristocracy and they’re inherent right to rule such that it’s no shock they’d be able to get over the psychological hurdle of couping Hitler. American generals though? I think Mark Milley kinda shows the limits of their thinking, his pushing against his duties amounted to trying to warn China that the army isn’t going to let Trump do anything retarded. Actually rolling a tank up to the White House and escorting Trump out? That’s a step too far for them I’d think.

>>2583079
>>2583081
The only way a coup would happen is if the US was losing a war or if a war turned into a meat grinder.

>>2583089
Apparently a lot of Pentagon guys were pissed at his retarded pep-rally and the head of Southern command resigned rather than work under him, yeah? Plus the "fat generals" shit he's been ranting about.

It's extremely unlikely, like we're talking maybe 2% if I'm being generous, but I see this as more likely to happen under this admin than any prior one.

>>2583090
The people who did Valkyrie agreed with Hitler on every issue, they just thought he was incompetent. They were the CPUSA of their time. Much like your insane ultra-Brodwerist party they wanted to use imperialism as a tool to benefit the Volk at the expense of the rest of the world. You shouldn't talk shit about them, most of them are more leftist than you or your insane Strasserite party will ever be.

>>2583089
>>2583099
america's military structure basically makes military coups impossible. generals aren't able to gain the loyalty of their troops due to being rotated around bases frequently. nco's and grunts don't have access to weapons without a long chain of command getting involved, but the chain of command involves people not directly on base so you can't even set something up secretly. both a top-down coup and bottom-up coup seem very unlikely.

>Trump: If you go to Japan and South Korea and Malaysia, they have a very small car… Very small and really cute. You’re not allowed to build them and I have authorized the secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars.
Wait he's cooking here
https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1996319664851562850

>>2583105
okay, if they start making cars smaller that's a trump W. maybe we can get a hilux

>>2583068
>he’s gonna Fetterman
Stoke out and make his wife leave him?

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>>2583108
>we can get a hilux
Don’t tease my tender heart like that…

This account is generating full on 1 hour lectures of John mearsheimer from ai. It is not him. The videos are getting 50k views in 1 day. They are uploading multiple times a day huge ai lectures and all the comments believe it is him

The account is even from argentina

https://youtube.com/@logicofpoweryt

This is going to become a trend

>>2583110
>Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace
ahahahahahahahahahhahahah

>>2583113
how do you not realize that the views and comments are also bots? it's funny, and maybe not bad to game the algorithm


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