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>>2581372Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchetIn today's news, Donald Trump pardoned and freed from prison one of the world's worst drug dealers, the former dictator of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández (JOH), who was convicted of trafficking 400 tons of cocaine and machine guns into the US, while simultaneously accusing Maduro of similar crimes, without evidence… You know they say there's like the alt-right pipeline I've had like the complete opposite. The more I engage with people from places like 4chan and Twitter. I move more to the left because of how idiotic they are
I just don't like hasbara, simple as
I see a hasbara campaign attacking a candidate, I critically support that candidate
>>2582958Class in America seems really strange as a non yank. Everyone over there pretends to be middle class and they don't consider you working class unless you're a garbage man you can hardly find working class characters on TV or in movies. But then you get silver spoon kids like Jake Paul or this Platner guy pretending to be working class, choosing a working class lifestyle (dropping out of school, joining the army, becoming a pro boxer) so they can live out their warrior/Rocky Balboa larp.
>>2582969How is what we are saying about Graham hasbara propaganda? Literally talking about his service in the military, his opinions about wars and documenting the things he has said. How in the world is that propaganda
>>2582973I never used the word propaganda
actually very telling that you're using a template response lol
>>2582977What template am I using dude? Like take your medication?
>>2582973most of it is prolly coming from Mills' campaign team with the usual AIPAC funding and technology associated with their support, just a guess
>>2582977And the phrase hasbara is regarding propaganda
>>2582980You believe that on this forum with like 200 people, there is a political candidate paying people to come here and talk about how this guy's military service his opinions and stating what he has said. This is what you believe
>>2582982Yes Zionist I really believe that. Welcome to like 1993
>>2582983How is it Zionist to talk about these things?
>>2582906>That doesn't mean it's socialistso no privatized companies? neoliberalism hasn't put a foothold on its state? good.
Socialism is enshrined in Vietnam's constitution, thus they are looking forward for it.
In fact, the communist party of Vietnam is the sole ruler of Vietnam, constitutionally enshrined. No other political parties are allowed to operate.
your claim requires more that vibes and feelings.
>>2582969>it's hasbara to notice graham platner's stepbrother is an aipac guylol ok buddy
>>2582979>no response to being caught>>2582981why would he not specifically address the hasbara accusation instead of using a generic response against "propaganda" which is not a word I used? propaganda is a meaningless word regardless, it does not define the truth of it, it is merely a manipulation of information towards a specific end - that end is what matters here
you are trying to derail this into a semantics argument instead of addressing the crux of this issue - this is clearly a hasbara campaign against an anti-Zionist candidate in favor of a pro-Zionist candidate
thus it's not complicated, you critically support the anti-Zionist candidate
I consider it hasbara because there's clearly posters here dedicated to attacking platner at every possible opportunity - why him in particular given the amount of ghouls that exist in US politics? it's a motivated attack
>>2582986Just admit to me straight up you'd rather have Mills win, there's nothing to be ashamed about
>>2582992Getting caught with what? This is how I write.
>>2582992You are calling about these topics hasbara. I am asking how is it that. Then you called me a Zionist randomly afterwards.
>>2582993You sound like the people who said if you don't vote Kamala you support trump
>>2582982yes lol, there are literally third-worlders getting paid to post propaganda on social media, non-stop
anonymous imageboards make it even easier because there's no account creation or any form of public identification
i'm sure this is just one of many places they stop at, the stuff they post takes only a few seconds to craft
>>2582996You are aligned with Mills interests and therefore the Israeli lobby. You are a Zionist.
>>2582998Okay so then if we critique platner regarding wars, his views, statements and opinions it can only be we are paid by aipac, doing hasbara, Zionist and paid by this ladies team
>>2583000No I am not. I don't agree with her on anything. Again you sound exactly like Democrats blaming people on left and Muslims for Kamala losing
>>2582980Did mills also pay graham platner to marry a woman whose brother is an aipac guy.
did mills pay platner to work for blackwater in 2018
did mills pay platner to volunteer 4 times to destroy 2 countries that israel doesn't like?
>>2582995you weren't asking about hasbara, you gave a template response about propaganda
you seem to have some trouble understanding the difference between intent and action
>>2583005What does a template response mean? This is how I write and speak.
>>2583007ignore this dude. he's coping hard. You're "Zionist" for noticing this dude worked for platner and has an aipac stepbro and volunteered to help destroy saddam's iraq, which was despised by israel
>>2583004Go ahead and admit to me that you'd rather have Mills win. It's really easy to. I can wait
>>2582973It is propaganda. Anti-imperialist propaganda is correct.
>>2583011What was propaganda? Everything I have said about platner is true.
>>2583010i want mills to lose but I also want you to acknowledge that this guy probably isn't "communist" like he pretends to be
>>2583015>i want mills to loseThat's all I needed. The platnerposting will continue
>>2583014fight agency, who manages platner's campaign, also managed fetterman's campaign. fight agency specializes in fake outsider candidates.
>>2583015And sure I don't have an issue admitting he's not a scientific socialist and probably not a revolutionary either. that's not what makes him valuable
>>2583022What makes him valuable?
>>2582969> I critically support that candidate<look inside>I uncritically support this candidate and if you criticize him in any way you're a zionisthmmmmmmm
>>2582964>>2582964>How is that relevant in any shape or form, when one has to look at the kind of relationship that dominates the entire economysee:
>>2582990it does, when your political structure aims for socialism. neolibaralism a.k.a. laissez-faire economy rebranded was minted to counter socialism through the ideological prostitution of sciences from hayek and milton friedman. this was pushed hard through the IMF and the World Bank, whenever a country was in financial distress, often caused by the west through economic and political pressures. countries that don't uphold socialism through higher degrees of political commitment privatized their state-owned companies and abandoned their sovereignty to some few corporations. how, for example, you know that the PSOE is not
S in Spain? because they let and led massive privatizations during the 80s, 90s, and onwards. same with the British labor party, where no strategic companies belong to the Spanish people or British people. these companies answer only to Wall Street.
Vietnam is as socialist as they can.
>>2583024Disrupting the democratic establishments ideological line, cultivating the anti-israel bloc in congress, elevating 'socialist' (please realize that means different things to different people) discourse, just to name a few
>>2583030What socialistic discourse is he elevating and how would he be disrupting the establishment
>>2583030>Disrupting the democratic establishments ideological lineby running as a democrat and letting john fetterman's campaign agency managing his campaign,
>cultivating the anti-israel bloc in congress,by hanging out with his AIPAC stepbrother
>elevating 'socialist' (please realize that means different things to different people) discourse,his campaign promises include "rebuilding" the american military and "closing the naval gap" with China. It's hawkish bullshit
>just to name a fewI can name way more shit that's sus, how zionist of me to notice his zionist family members who he hangs out and shoots guns with on the regular. How zionist of me to notice he praises azov battalion and worked for blackwater less than a decade ago. how zionist of me to notice he volunteered for zionist occupations of the middle east under a zionist president during the zionist so called "war on terror" which was a war OF terror
>>2583030> (please realize that means different things to different people)to some people it means rebuilding american imperialism and elevating small business owners
>>2583032Because AIPAC likes politicians on their payroll silly guy
>>2583037You did not answer the question. What socialistic discourse is he elevating and how is he disrupt the establishment
Tell me the discourse please
>>2583035What part of 'capitalism is doomed to fail' don't you understand. This includes small business too. power will fall to the communists inevitably no matter what opinions about small businesses socialists have.
>>2583038different anon here. he is not elevating socialist discourse at all. he is simply redefining socialism to mean anti-monopoly reforms (meant to elevate small business owners, petty bourgeois class interests) and "rebuilding america's military" (i.e. making the imperialist war machine more efficient to compete with China).
>>2583038>how is he disrupt the establishment Because he's not on aipacs payroll, which most establishment democrats are
>>2583040how does electing petty bourgeois war criminals who call themselves socialist hasten capitalism's decline in the US, especially when they want to breathe longer life into american capitalism by eradicating its most self destructive tendencies?
>>2583042Tell me the socialistic discourse he is elevating.
>>2583042>Because he's not on aipacs payrollhis step brother literally is. and he is friends with his step brother. He literally has a vector in his family through which aipac money can easily reach him covertly. Also the fight agency, who managed the campaign of ultra zionist john fetterman, manages his campaign.
>>2583044The alternative is a 79 year old AIPAC lawyer who wants to extend the lifespan of the empire
>>2583048You sound like people who said we need to vote Kamala or Hillary. Did you vote for them?
>>2583046>he thinks the Israeli lobby runs candidates against each otherComedy
>>2583048>replace the senile 80 year old zionist who might die in office with the the 40 year old zionist who has fresh blood on his sword and pretends to be leftist after a "change of heart" PR stunt that happened conveniently right before he ran for officelol only a child would fall for this. go ahead and VOOT for your younger, stronger, more competent zionist, and make sure to call everyone a zionist who sees through this.
>>2583049The Zionist pick was Donald trump so yeah in this scenario you're also the Zionist lol
>>2583050Do you think in primaries only one candidates is backed by them?
>>2583053Did you vote for Kamala? And not voting third party or not voting does not make you a Zionist.
>>2583053Also Kamala and Hillary are Zionist.
So the guy shilling platner also said if you don't vote Kamala and Hillary you are a Zionist. He gave away his game here
>>2583061so you're ready to admit you'd rather have the non-AIPAC sponsored candidate lose?
>>2583062We dont care. We dont ride dick.
>>2583066where are you from dickrider anon
>>2583058Planter is a glowie man, he’s gonna Fetterman us. However the fact the ruling class feels they need to up the ante and start running fake socialist is a good thing. They’re losing and on the back foot and we have to keep pushing. We have to get more anti-Nazi and link Zionism to Nazism and make sure people understand even on a rudimentary level that all their problems stem from these anti-social, Anti-communist ghouls. The only way out, the only path of salvation is a workers revolution. The worker class must seize the means of production from these psychopathic leeches.
>>2583062>so you're ready to admit you'd rather have the non-AIPAC sponsored candidate lose?I've already explained to you several times that I want Mills to lose, but I also want you to acknowledge that Platner probably isn't much better, and could, potentially, be a complete liar about his "change of heart" based on everything we know about his life. But you are not only incapable of understanding this, but pretend any criticism of Platner is veiled Zionism.
This guy is trying the if you don't vote Democrat you voted for trump. He even said trump is the Zionist candidate so if you did not vote Kamala or Hillary you are a Zionist
This guy is not interested in discussing policy at all, views or what the person will do. You need to hold your nose and vote for his guy. You can't judge him now or you are a bad guy.
That's the platner shill posting the last 2 threads. His views.
>>2583068Fetterman was always bad. He had over a decade in politics before he got hyped, and his shitty reputation was known in pennsylvania
>>2583074And with platner you learned he exist 2 months ago
>>2583077It is 100% fact. He came on the scene 2 months ago. There is no way you knew about him before and he created all his social media in August. Tell me I am wrong. You knew about him before September?
So Trump's basically out and out said he stands with Hegseth on the double-tap strike, so I'm kind of wondering if this could form the basis for a "legal" coup. Like if the army is required to disobey illegal orders (yes yes, I know it's not that simple and they break the law all the time) and the admin is openly saying "Do illegal stuff, don't question it" then unironically couldn't some middle officer or general have a means to just forcibly remove Trump and his cronies from office?
>>2583079theoretically you are correct, but in reality they have no incentive to break the law when it comes to couping their own government and every incentive to break the law when it comes to couping foreign civilians.
>>2583079seems unlikely to me but maybe if hegseth is shitty enough they'll push to get rid of him
>>2583081Oh for sure the incentives are towards reaction and—personally?—I’m not sure that we have a general ambitious enough for it. Yknow the guys behind the Coup in Operation Valkyrie, they were old Prussian style Junkers IIRC; they had these ideas of aristocracy and they’re inherent right to rule such that it’s no shock they’d be able to get over the psychological hurdle of couping Hitler. American generals though? I think Mark Milley kinda shows the limits of their thinking, his pushing against his duties amounted to trying to warn China that the army isn’t going to let Trump do anything retarded. Actually rolling a tank up to the White House and escorting Trump out? That’s a step too far for them I’d think.
>>2583079>>2583081The only way a coup would happen is if the US was losing a war or if a war turned into a meat grinder.
>>2583089Apparently a lot of Pentagon guys were pissed at his retarded pep-rally and the head of Southern command resigned rather than work under him, yeah? Plus the "fat generals" shit he's been ranting about.
It's extremely unlikely, like we're talking maybe 2% if I'm being generous, but I see this as more likely to happen under this admin than any prior one.
>>2583090The people who did Valkyrie agreed with Hitler on every issue, they just thought he was incompetent. They were the CPUSA of their time. Much like your insane ultra-Brodwerist party they wanted to use imperialism as a tool to benefit the Volk at the expense of the rest of the world. You shouldn't talk shit about them, most of them are more leftist than you or your insane Strasserite party will ever be.
>Trump: If you go to Japan and South Korea and Malaysia, they have a very small car… Very small and really cute. You’re not allowed to build them and I have authorized the secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars.Wait he's cooking here
https://xcancel.com/Acyn/status/1996319664851562850 >>2583105okay, if they start making cars smaller that's a trump W. maybe we can get a hilux
>>2583068>he’s gonna FettermanStoke out and make his wife leave him?
>>2583108>we can get a hiluxDon’t tease my tender heart like that…
This account is generating full on 1 hour lectures of John mearsheimer from ai. It is not him. The videos are getting 50k views in 1 day. They are uploading multiple times a day huge ai lectures and all the comments believe it is him
The account is even from argentina
https://youtube.com/@logicofpowerytThis is going to become a trend
>>2583110>Donald J. Trump Institute of Peaceahahahahahahahahahhahahah
>>2583113how do you not realize that the views and comments are also bots? it's funny, and maybe not bad to game the algorithm
>>2583058>@TrackaipacTrack Aipac is a shill account run with DNC money to play "good cop/bad cop" around the Zionist consensus. @trackzionist is an alternative BE points out and others have adopted independently as well.
You'll notice that the @zei_squirrel milieu have also dropped @trackaipac in favor of @trackzionist.
>>2583135
What did he mean by this?
>>2583129As expected of an Adolf Platner shill lol
I'm not even American, elect all the clowns you want. You are still going to end up broke and balkanized and under the boot of fascists no matter what brand of liberal is in power, by the time you lose the cold war.
>>2583138>You are still going to end up broke and balkanized and under the boot of fascists no matter whatthat's very nice agent johnson. isn't it a little bit late to to still be at the office?
>>2583135
didn't he say this before the foundation of liberia?
>>2583079Goddamnit, son. You dont get how america works. In ameriKa, it is llegal to resist illegal arrest. Everything the american government does is violation of international law, but to resist is illegal. Your notion that legality will win is Confucius Thought.
Is your party doing anything to help Venezuela?
>>2583143or laotian for that matter. USAID did fund quite a bit of cambodian history projects before it was shut down
>>2583110>Tump>PeaceIn other news:
"We had to bomb Venezuela to save Venezuela"
and
"Mahmoud Abbas signs decree allowing the Peaceful International Army of Peace (Gaza) to cut off every Palestinian's right hand"
>>2583147If God-Willing we go Socialist I think we’ll need a whole chapter dedicated to the consequences of Kissinger’s actions alone.
>>2583150National reconciliation commission + truth commission + RTI4K
>>2583157Unironically I think a big push from the Left should be a National Reconciliation Commission in regards to ICE. Like just try to force the issue on the dems: "Do you support abolishing ICE and putting Trump Admin officials on trial?"
Trump would try to pardon them undeniably, but really try to force the issue in the public consciousness.
>>2583058Both of them are bad and
there's literally a dozen fucking people running in that racehttps://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_election_in_Maine,_2026 >>2583176>sexual market100% spook that only exists because of dating apps.
Abolishing this concept and going back to being fucking normal is the first step.
>>2583160They are the only two real candidates in the race, everyone else is <1%.
He's also 20 points ahead of Mills, which is why hasbara agents are getting so desperate.
>>2583181>>2583176There’s this guy named Brett keen, he’s an absolute disgusting meet slob that contributes nothing to society, or just general well begin of people. Guy is repulsive to look at, he has no money, HIS WIFE works to support him. He has multiple children and even managed to cheat on his wife. So I’m completely unconvinced of any incel theories. I think incels are a product of alienation and also the fact most men born around and after the 90s are in arrested development. Neoliberalism infantilization has made a generation of men were shoved aside and never given the tools to even be useful, let alone social and it’s getting worst. There’s gonna be a raise of femcels on par with men soon too. Wally is a hopeful fantasy when in actuality we’re raising a generation of fat retards that will be prime meat for the post apocalypse the boomers set off because they had to squeeze on more cruise in.
>>2583186
>dating apps didn't just come out of nowhere
They literally did.
They only exist because of smartphones.
Plenty of "innovations" have been forced down our throats by big tech capitalists.
The real solution is not market spooks or sex slavery, it's the re-invigoration of public spaces. Get people out of the house and out into the community. Spend more time interacting with real living breathing people, rather than screens feeding manipulated algorithmic demotivational slop.
Dating apps have only existed for a couple decades, we survived just fine before that.
>>2583191True.
Going outside and just looking around at couples will rid you of that "sexual market" spook real fast.
There are some ugly motherfuckers out there with much more attractive partners, who are doing very well for themselves.
>>2583191>>2583198extreme
TRVTH NVKEanyone whining about women's "standards" being "too high" confirmed to never touch grass
>>2583193>it's the re-invigoration of public spaces. Get people out of the house and out into the communityDevils advocate, but doesn't Europe have these third spaces or public spaces yet are experiencing the same problems?
>>2583201they want other people to suffer too
>>2583201This has been happening for nearly a decade at this point. The needle only shifts 5-8 percentages if Trump does something like give a 2000 dollar check or something. Polarization also makes it where there is no alternative except for the party you align with
>>2583191>>2583198>>2583200So just be a racist, mysognist, religious wife-beater?
>>2583207No you just have put yourself out there and not be afraid to be rejected. I know it sound cliche but that’s it. The reason Americans 90s on have such a hard time is because they grew up with the internet and also all third places have been demolished. Everything is a fucking micro transaction but most women are experiencing the same thing they’re just conditioned to socialize through gender roles but that’s dying off too. Which is why we’re seeing the reactionary backlash and the raise of trad wives.
Went out against CPUSA like Jesus chasing the money lenders out of the temple today, they have been removed from the anti-war coalition I am a member of because their party is an insane far right front for the DemoKKKrats. I spend most of my time trying to isolate the CPUSA from every coalition and group in this town and they're slowly dying because of it. I am the only one here doing actual Marxist-Leninist praxis.
>>2583213(me)
I also want to say I encourage people going to protest to get laid or joining an org to find love. Find a nice women and if you want squirt out some future communist.
>>2583213Unless of course, they are racist (as most people on this globe are) and you have the wrong skin color, accent, hair texture or whatever. Good luck with meeting people and having social circles.
>>2583222Just because you never organize doesn't mean no one else does.
why is the general so often taken over by incel whining lately?
there is a general for that in /siberia/ you know
>>2583225
Social Exchange theory isn’t necessarily about sex, but yeah, it does deviously take western cultural norms and devises a theory of social behavior out of them.
>>2583233
>Actively try to force a party out of an anti-war coalition
<"They did nothing to help Venezuela!"
I mean beyond the obvious bullshit (of course we're opposing intervention in Venezuela) you're once more proving you're nothing more than a capitalist stooge.
>>2583229This general is dominated by men 18-29 and currently there is an increasing divide that makes incelism including on the left normal
>>2582968>leftistMeaningless term.
>>2583237Look man I'm ugly as fuck and autistic and I have a hot girlfriend with oversized boobs, if I can do it anyone here can
>>2583241Perhaps there is hope for my awkward and anxious dumb ass yet.
>>2583246There's always hope mang, keep trying. You'll get the hang of it.
>>2583198Incels need to believe it because admitting they just have an attitude problem over living in a loneliness epidemic caused by economics and technology is too much of a blow to their egoes
>>2583249Eh, I don't think so, but I won't argue.
>>2583252Randy Fine?
You mean Randy "White Pride Worldwide" Fine?
Randy "the Hebrew Ham" Fine?
Randy "the Tubby of Tel Aviv" Fine?
Randy "the Jewish Jumbo" Fine?
Randy "the Sumo of Samaria" Fine?
Randy "the Insatiable Bulk" Fine?
>>2583257Lots of filler that will somehow glaze mel Gibson and be a heretical movie with one scene showcasing the resurrection of Christ while the self-insert does says something ridiculous to make Jesus out to be MAGA
>>2583257>Isn't this like the shortest part of the bibble?maybe it'll include everything after the resurrection, like Peter & Paul and shit.
>>2583258>3 bours screenplay based on 4 lines of monologuethe 4 gospels don't even agree with each other on the details of the resurrection so I wonder which one he'll go with.
>>2583233
>The real Communist Party
say its name so we can laugh
>>2583257The funny thing is this is like the "gg" part of the jesus story. "I told ya I'm the true measiah" and people rejoiced and shidded their pants. But where's the fucking conflict in that? Just why would you watch a movie about Jesus going around telling ppl "told ya" and then being beamed jp to heaven.
Its fucking boring.
At least in the passion there were bloody BDSM scenes and evil romans and jooz. In this there aren't even any antagonists.
Millions must watch the Last Temptation of Christ
>>2583268That movie pissed religoids off back in the day
DSA feeds people in the same park as the anarchists but neither group has any connection to each other. No shared resources. Gotta fix this.
>>2583270In that Florida city you're in? You would think that the place would be small enough for there to be significant cross pollination.
>>2583265I feel like a lot of these posters would fit in the ACP.
>>2583253>have an attitude problem over living in a loneliness epidemic caused by economics and technologyOnly neoliberals don't have a problem with it. Incels have exploded in population over the past few years so that indicates a larger social problem that individualized therapy can't address.
>>2583275yeah the reactionary ones
>>2583282I agree, my statement was not meant to be a compliment.
>>2583287
So what? Plenty of political and religious groups claim to be anti-imperialist but they are so inconsequential they might as well not have an opinion. ACP are worse. They are active wreckers of the communist movement. One good position doesn't out weight everything else.
>>2583288
you're on tor node, tor node lets you ban evade. fuck off to siberia
>>2583287
>The CPUSA flanks the ACP only on issues of identity politics.
I'm pretty sure the ACP embracing "ethical landlords" and hinkle saying communists "don't oppose private property" is the national chauvinism of "MAGA Communism" are not "idpol issues" but yes, their tendency to say women shouldn't be able to vote, should obey their husbands, and gays are all part imperialist is pretty rotten idpol of the most reactionariy variety.
>>2583287
"Anti-imperialism" isn't necessarily a left-wing position.
>>2583284CPUSA+DSA= Democrat "communists" + socdems
ACP+LAROUCHE= Repiblican "communists" + socdems
It's that simple.
>>2583312anon that post is obviously a lib being sarcastic
>>2583314I dont believe in sarvasm any more, anon.
>>2583303It actually is. For example, supporting the Afghan monarchy against British imperialism.
>>2583267We are engaging in a site-wide incel purge. Report them where sighted.
>>2583303the entire framework of "left" and "right", dating to 1789, and meaning different things to different people, is semantically whittled down to the bare nub of its meaning when you have people trading one "left" policy for another "left" policy, like ACP saying that LGBT is an imperialist psy op on one hand, and people like CPUSA tailing imperialist democrats on the other. The prevailing idiocy of the day, as I discussed with you in the other thread, is a whole nest of false dichotomies where it is presupposed that one must always embrace the "realpolitik" of uncritically supporting people who discriminate against and scapegoat people just because they agree with you on something really important like imperialism or capitalism, or the contrary "realpolitik" of supporting imperialist democrats just because they pretend to be against discrimination and scapegoating, on the other hand.
It's tiresome and I'm sick of it. Especially on here.
>>2583343HOLY FUCKING BASED
MODS = GODS
>>2583332>>2583342This is more about having a strategy of dividing capitalist countries than having the principle of actively supporting a reactionaries that might be anti-imperialist if you squint.
Problem with this strategy is these reactionary countries end up turning around and supporting imperialism the instant they are given superficial concession. Imperialists can easily give support to a little monarchy. Just give them bribes and show the royal family fake respect. America does it for Sauds right now.
>>2583354Waiting for critical supporters to observe politics for more than 3 years and realize that capitalism breeds imperialism as a constant
>>2583343purge your own ranks first. i got an one-month ban for being a /pol/tard when all i did was advocate abolishing prostitution
>>2583304Ironically, Larouche had the same strategy as the DSA with the democratic party.
>>2583303you would love if anti-imperialism wasnt a thing in the left, wouldnt you?
>>2583303i swear burgerpol is one of the most retarded places in the internet at this point
>>2583315you never did becauses you have autism
>>2583303there are no "necessarily" left-wing positions, everything can be co-opted and recuperated by the reaction to some extent
the fact that you choose to single out anti-imperialism says more about you that about the problems in anti-imperialism
>>2583343First they came for the incels
And I did not speak out
>>2583435>and he's righthe is right but the framing is disingenuous, see
>>2583423 Ay
>>2583437>>2583435>>2583303What are some necessarily left-wing positions?
Workers rights? Co-opted by the Nazis.
LGBT rights? Co-opted by liberal zionism.
Anti-racism? Co-opted by NATO.
Anti-fascism? Co-opted by liberals.
In fact I think anti-imperialism is one of the hardest to co-opt, they tried with Ukraine but the left wing of capital was unable to sell the Gaza genocide and Kamala lost.
>>2583446>positionsThat is very undialectical.
>>2583287
>”The ACP is to the left of the CPUSA on imperialism”
lol
We’ve been arguing nonstop against intervention in Venezuela, we’ve been saying it’s a war for oil on People’s World and our website. Only thing is that some dummies on here see anti imperialism as an aesthetic category so they judge solely on the “harshness” of language—again, this is literally the phrase-mongering Lenin talked about.
>>2583446In reality there is no left right dichotomy. The argument instead should be imperialism is not strictly a communist or marxist ideal. The Puerto Ricans for example could be both nationalist and anti-imperialist at the same time without contradiction because they exist under the thumb of the United states
>>2583452That's just bourgeois pacifism, man. Probably some porkies disagree about doing war now on venezuela.
>>2583452You are just against particular war. True commies push for neutrality of the government, yep.
CPUSA is a revisionist oppurtunist party.
>>2583278Joe Sims isn’t a reporter for one, for another while I can’t say for certain if he’s been to Venezuela we’ve had delegations met in Cuba, North Korea, and China—I doubt Venezuela is wholly off the table.
But this kind of goes into what I said about “anti-imperialism” being an aesthetic category on here. It’s all images and rhetoric; who’s talking to whom.
>>2583464https://peoplesworld.org/article/u-s-war-on-venezuela-looms/
>U.S. imperialism’s gunboat diplomacy off the coast of Venezuela is rapidly escalating, reaching the verge of all-out war. Over the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday, President Donald Trump unilaterally—and illegally—declared the airspace in and around Venezuela “closed” and said that attacks on that country would soon take place “by land.”[…]
>Inside Venezuela, meanwhile, the “democratic” opposition leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Maria Corina Machado continues to advocate a U.S. attack on her own country and its people.We’re condemning U.S. imperial aspirations and their stooges, that ain’t “just bourgeois pacifism”
>>2583468I don't think anyone denies that anymore. I'm not even against revisionism if its constructive, but they're not even revisionist, they're deconstructionist. They're a dead party. I genuinely believe the DSA is less revisionist. I genuinely believe that.
>>2583469Okay. Long live le revolution. Based american proletariat led by CPUSA will RAPE le international bourgeoisie located in USA.
>>2583470> I genuinely believe the DSA is less revisionistLol
>>2583469>weWhat are you a party member? (lol member)
Anyone who argues against the CPUSA in bad faith is a defeatist wrecker.
>>2583474Here is my argument in good faith.
Either replace your leadership with people who have actually read Lenin, or become an mediocrity.
>>2583473I’ve paid my dues and contributed to the party, so yes.
>>2583476Except our leadership have, they just aren’t immature about it or think scowling is radical
>>2583480Until your party realises the mechanisms of state, which social democrats kneel to, is a blockade to true revolution they are not Leninists. Social democracy are the left wing of neoliberalism.
>>2583450I'm using the terminology the gay-nazi-flag used, they are the ones being "undialectical", I'm just pointing it out.
>>2583463>In reality there is no left right dichotomyI dont know if I would go as far as saying there is no left right dichotomy, I think there is, there just arent "necessarily" left-wing positions. Denouncing anti-imperialism for not being a necessarily left-wing position presupposes that there are such things, that there are things that could not possibly be recuperated by the reaction, and history shows thats not the case. Why would someone single out anti-imperialism in this way? Who benefits from it? The "leftists" with ukraine and taiwan flags in their bluesky bios.
>The argument instead should be imperialism is not strictly a communist or marxist ideal.I'm not sure what this means, did you mean to type "anti-imperialism"?
>The Puerto Ricans for example could be both nationalist and anti-imperialist at the same time without contradiction because they exist under the thumb of the United statesI agree.
America has fallen. Billions must suffer the consequences.
>>2583484they could bring back wood paneling now
>>2583486Beldin on TrueAnon was warning about this. “Every single young republican staffer is a groyper.”
cpusa's younger, newer members are angrier and want more to happen than the older, more established members, and i've talked to them in district meets about it. when the oldest members leading clubs have to move aside the party's probably gonna start getting more militant.
>cpusas younger members
all 5 of them?
>>2583452Lenin would execute you.
>>2583501nah it'll be a few more years but the overturn is coming
>>2583502It's been getting bigger. Not stunning growth like DSA but it's happening
>>2583486Yeah no way
only 3 percent of 65+ year old Republicans are racist.
>>2583511I think a lot of them think they're a lot less racist than they actually are, or at least hold their tongue on some things.
>>2583512Iron Felix came in here lambasting everyone for not directly physically assaulting MIC production facilities at one point (for weeks) and gave as his own example, a weapons factory that he personally knew of in his locality, "with no protection" that could be "easily taken down with a few dedicated real communists".
Still hasn't answered as to why they haven't taken on such an apparently easy task except that "nobody else would follow up elsewhere"
>>2583512IIRC Felix in one of his many calls for stochastic violence was using arms factories as an example, and said essentially “There’s a factory that produces weapons for the military by my house and it’s barely even guarded, it’s totally possible for people to sabotage imperialism here” and people were pointing out that he keeps screeching that other people have to kill cops, that if you aren’t violently resisting the state then you’re complicit in its crimes, but he’s got a perfect opportunity for sabotage allegedly in front of him and he won’t take it.
Course it’s been ages since he brought that up so I might be misremembering some details, but people have been posting “Factory Status?” At Felix to wonder whether he’s actually done anything about the factory by his house.
>>2583508When was the last time a revisionist party was corrected into anti-revisionism from the inside?
>>2583516Dunno but historical development in terms of political parties moves slow, and we're in a bit of a new era.
>>2583517its better to start a new party
honkoid status?
>>2583498what are they going to do when joe sims and his family walk away with all the party's money?
>>2583511Most of the old ones are probably some variety of crossing the street when they see a black person but insisting “Democrats are the real racists” while the younger ones have an openly racialized worldview.
It was kind of brought up during 2015 or so I think that more White people were starting to identify consciously as “White” or insist their race was important. I think this is a consequence both of declining living standards, racist reaction to the Obama presidency, and shit like “white fragility” basically saying: “You’re white, you need to be cognizant of that, being white means something.”
>>2583520the same thing they did before, vote blue for ever
>>2583452>We’ve been arguing nonstopwow thats crazy praxis
>>2583463>In reality there is no left right dichotomy.Left is just shorthand for "communist" or "revolutionary" and right is just shorthand for "anti communist" or "counter revolutionary." Just because the bourgeoisie have their own contextual left/right spectrum doesn't mean the term without meaning in proletarian politics.
>>2583484wait… what does it mean to "slash fuel economy standards"
Are they bringing back leaded gasoline?
>>2583542GRRRRRRRRRRRRR MUST HATE XI JINPING
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR MUST HATE KIM JONG UN
GRRRRRRRRRRR IT IS MY DUTY AS BURGER REICH CITIZEN
>>2583543fuel economy standards are strict so there's this stupid loophole car manafacturers do where they just make the car bigger so it passes the test. its why every car on the road is huge nowadays. they announced yesterday they'd be getting rid of it so small cars can be made again
This is the most telling thread I have seen when you read thru it that the far right straight does not care at all about rights of actual citizens
Yes I know this can be obvious but it's nice to see how mask off being about it
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/522835208#bottom>>2583545I don't hate somalis. Speak for yourself reactoid.
>>2583549find of the century, this is big
>>2583427First they came for the incels and I thought “oh thank god”
>>2583547nah stands for "no arguments here!"
>>2583548oh, fuel economy as in mileage. I thought they mean the economics of fuel production. Thanks. I see.
>>2583524Dude was posting Hinkle interviewed Maduro as if that means anything. Of course there are local clubs working on anti war stuff as well.
>>2583542>That Pope Leo favorabilityThe Centuries long plot to bring Protestant America under the supervision of the Church is nearing completion.
>>2583546I really don’t get the Xi hate, like he’s not even “in your face” like Putin. He’s just there.
>>2583542is -X% a decrease in popularity?
is +X% an increase in popularity?
fucking data presented in the stupidest way.
>>2583553Dude these memes are made by Somalis taking the piss out of racists and Zionists
>>2583564>Dude was posting Hinkle interviewed Maduro as if that means anything.those kind of things are not completely worthless
>>2583542How will Xi recover from this? I guess now he looks sad now whenever Chinese communists make deals with their BEST FRIENDS in Israel
>>2583569Unironically I think an important task for Americans on the Left is to develop a propaganda apparatus to push back on the “Chinese took all the jobs” narrative. Like I think that’s a big reason for the contempt, too. It’s always portrayed as “China
taking the jobs” not “Businessmen selling us out” or “companies taking our jobs”
>>2583585Americas so fat they have billions of dollars hiding under their gigantic couch.
Maybe most Americans just need to die including me. That's a hard pill to swallow. I think humans are generally shit but Americans may be the worst maybe Israelis are worse but there's more of us than them. Anyways Americans and Israelis are basically the same.
>>2583592nice try fbi, billions must live
Hegseth Asked Top Admiral to Resign After Months of Discordhttps://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/hegseth-asked-top-admiral-to-resign-after-months-of-discord-9e7b357f?mod=WTRN_pos1
>Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shocked official Washington in mid-October when he announced that the four-star head of U.S. military operations in the Caribbean was retiring less than a year into his tenure.
>But according to two Pentagon officials, Hegseth asked Adm. Alvin Holsey to step down, a de facto ouster that was the culmination of months of discord between Hegseth and the officer. It began days after President Trump’s inauguration in January and intensified months later when Holsey had initial concerns about the legality of lethal strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean, according to former officials aware of the discussions.
>Not long after, Hegseth announced that Holsey would be retiring.
>Hegseth’s move, which hasn’t been previously reported, sheds new light on a brewing controversy over the legality of the military’s campaign in the Caribbean, and raises questions over whether servicemembers with concerns about the attacks are being listened to.
>Hegseth’s move, which hasn’t been previously reported, sheds new light on a brewing controversy over the legality of the military’s campaign in the Caribbean, and raises questions over whether servicemembers with concerns about the attacks are being listened to.[…]
>The admiral, a 60-year-old Navy helicopter pilot nicknamed “Bull,” had seemed a good fit to carry out Trump’s military campaign against drug traffickers after the new president came into office. Holsey voiced support for stepping up interdiction of drug shipments and had experience at such missions.[…]
< “You’re either on the team or you’re not,” Hegseth told Holsey, according to notes from a participant. “When you get an order, you move out fast and don’t ask questions.”Admr. Alvin “Black Bull” Holsey should meet up with General “Red” Mark Milley for the National Salvation Military Council.
>>2583596Hegseth will be axed over this
>>2583596>nicknamed “Bull,” Kek
>>2583595>WHY WON'T YOU HECKIN CAPITALIZE WHITE groyper SJWism
>>2583592what if we just stop being reactionary and start helping people
>>2583573i didn't get the joke at first because i didn't watch the video
As venezuela gets bombarded, CPUSA is posting cringe
>Vote as if your life depends on it!https://www.cpusa.org/article/defeat-trump-and-maga-vote-as-if-your-life-depends-on-it/>>2583607I really think DSA is less cucked
>>2583607What elections are even happening? Are they not just dick riding platner?
>>2583518I'm really not sure it is.
>>2583614Why do retarded neoliberals go on and on and on and on about the state being the "servant" to individuals when they're all slaves to the market?
>>2583572it's people who approve minus people who disapprove
that means that if everyone has an opinion on Mamdani it's 54.5% disapproval, 45.5% approve
Pope Leo would have a 64.5% approve, 35.5% disapprove
>>2583615betting markets are largely just a way to launder money. want to pay to get someone killed? put down money that they will die and someone will be incentivized to go out and kill them to pick up the tab. it's a way to obscure financial transactions.
>>2583616thats a you problem
>>2583629woke vs chud dialectics are getting tiresome
republicans just replaced le cultural marxist professors with actual retards
>>2583625Consider also how the legality of shortselling, i.e. betting that the price of a stock will go down, could technically incentivize industrial sabotage, since a serious decrease in a firm's productive capacity usually results in a selling off of stock by panicky investors.
>>2583636says the capitalist state
don't fall too far for this logic
>>2583635>The current international landscape is undergoing changes and turbulence. The U.N. and multilateralism are being challenged. The deficit in global governance continues to grow. The existing international institutions have shown three deficiencies. First, serious underrepresentation of the Global South. The collective rise of emerging markets and developing countries necessitates boosting the representation of the Global South and redressing historical injustice. Second, erosion of authoritativeness. The purposes and principles of the U.N. Charter have not been effectively observed. Resolutions of the Security Council have been challenged. Unilateral sanctions, among other practices, have violated international law and disrupted the international order. Third, urgent need for greater effectiveness. The implementation of the U.N. 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development is seriously lagging behind. Issues such as climate change and the digital divide are becoming more salient. Governance gaps exist in new frontiers such as artificial intelligence (AI), cyberspace and outer space.
<As a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council and the biggest developing country, China has all along been a staunch builder of world peace, contributor to global development, defender of the international order and provider of public goods. Focusing on a subject of our times, namely what kind of global governance system to build and how to reform and improve global governance, and regarding it as the fundamental guideline to uphold the purposes and principles of the U.N. Charter and practice the vision of global governance featuring extensive consultation and joint contribution for shared benefit, China proposes the Global Governance Initiative (GGI) to promote the building of a more just and equitable global governance system and work together for a community with a shared future for humanity.based china
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/xw/wjbxw/202509/t20250901_11699912.html I keep spiraling and losing my mind because I surrounded by so much abject cruelty in this society and I feel unable to keep participating in it.
>>2583636the real problem with "freedom" in general is it is an empty signifier. Of course the leader of a theocratic state with morality police is going to label freedom from religious moralism as "slavery to sin," since that is the nature of the Abrahamic value system, regardless of which Abrahamic religion you are talking about.
For those of us who are not religious moralists, the more important thing to note about freedom, is what Lenin already said 100 years ago, which is that "freedom" in bourgeois society means
freedom TO exploit rather than
freedom FROM exploitation >>2583639Still bombed pissrael so that capitalist state mogs all western anti-capitalists.
>>2583636>say NO to political corruption:D
>AND female sexual liberation!D:
>>2583645Wasn't very successful though was it
>>2583646no don't you understand. western imperialism isn't bad because bombs, sanctions, coups, and embargoes are killing people and robbing nations of their sovereignty. western imperialism is bad because sometimes the bombs have a blue necktie on them instead of a red necktie, and the blue necktie, allegedly, means icky icky gay people and women existing
>>2583649As trump says. The imperialist want transgender for everybody!
>>2583650ironically I think Iran is more tolerant of transitioning than homosexuality. I have heard, but I do not know if this is true, that homosexual men are force-femmed.
>>2583634They never state names of who's dick they're actually riding. They never said platner was bad a single time. CPUSA is literally dick riding a nazi fascist as Venezuela is bombarded
That must be why Maduro does not recieve CPUSA.
United front is when you kill nazis, not vote for them as venezuela is bombarded
>>2583658I already know what they both think so I won't watch. Let me know if there was any moments that were particularly funny or entertaining
>>2583658Nightmare blunt rotation
Your rich leaders grow richer while you die in the amazon, GI.
>>2583622ah, I see. but that's annoying. I need to set up two equations to get the approval and disapproval rates:
a%+b%=100%
a%-b%=X%
they could have simply posted approve/disapprove values. also, that establishes that there are no neutrals and that's impossible or their sampling is very small and biased.
>>2583622>that means that if everyone has an opinion on Mamdani it's 54.5% disapproval, 45.5% approvewouldn't that result in a +9 instead of a -9?
>>2583598Nah it happened months ago, though it does make it clear that the double tap is on Hegseth, he’s a fucking platoon leader yelling at some old admiral “just follow orders without question”. He can’t claim “well I didn’t know”, he’s literally telling admirals “just kill everyone and don’t you dare question me”
>>2583659>>2583638There are algorithms in place to prevent that sort of thing—market makers can route transactions through dark pools to make any short position you take, even an enormous one, functionally useless. Market makers control the ticker price.
Funny enough there’s corporate sabotage directed at other companies though. Why do execs get hired onto the board of other companies when you look at their record and it’s just one failed business after another? They can be a great ally for hedge funds. Mismanage things, sell your real estate and rent it back, they’re masters of losing money and it makes a few billionaires with short positions richer.
>>2583656bombing israel was based. this is a tweet that confuses sexuality with imperialism
>>2583675>There are algorithms in place to prevent that sort of thing—market makers can route transactions through dark pools to make any short position you take, even an enormous one, functionally useless. Market makers control the ticker price.This is why stocks, in some ways, are even worse than "regular" casino gambling.
>>2583304been saying ts, one is socdems that tail the DNC and the other is socdems that tail the GOP nothing special or particularly new
>>2583266>>2583263yeah that's my guess it'll briefly touch on pentecost or whatever and then it'll focus on peter being crucified upside down or paul being beheaded, just early christian church apocrypha hyper violence
>>2583304woke taillism vs based taillism
>>2583657very true, dick fixation anon
>>2583647What do you mean? They didnt get regime changed.
>>2583697Must be crazy considering how much nazoids are boosting their content with bots
>it's cheaper to buy foreign oil than domestic oil so millions of venezuelans must die
either libs don't believe this because they're voluntarily or deliberately ignorant or they simply accept they're exceptionalist, which they already do in many cases.
>>2583703A lot of them attacked her in quote tweets calling her a whore and stuff
>>2583709Not a single Texan has threadworms?
>>2583709>>2583714Yknow I genuinely wonder if we’ll see some mass die offs in the near future because of Republican health policy. Like, more than normal. I can’t think of any way to describe this beyond Republicans being pro-disease.
Remember when liberals thought wearing a frog costume and dancing would defeat ICE and fascism? I can't wait to see a similarly useless stunt happen again in two years. Scratch that. 6 Months.
>>2583636Iran is a country run by retarded Abrahamic moralism, of course they would say shit like that. Not to mention they killed Iranian communists once the clergy took power, they are reactionaries as bad as any burger.
like what
>>2583644 said
> "freedom" in bourgeois society means freedom TO exploit rather than freedom FROM exploitation >>2583707Famous winning message
>>2583731>they are reactionaries yes
>as bad asspooky
>any burgerwoah, slow down
Apparently Newsom blocked some tax loophole that Hale Barry’s company was using and so when he appeared as a guest on some talk show she hosts she introduced him as someone who overlooks women and shouldn’t be president.
Woke is back baby! #GirlBoss
>>2583739Which tax loophole are they talking about? All I could find was this from the New Hitlerite Post:
>Berry’s criticism of the slick-haired pol stemmed from his October veto of legislation — for the second time — aimed at improving and expanding menopause care. The bill Newsom rejected sought to mandate that health care plans provide recommendations for menopause-related treatments, and require health care providers to receive training related to menopause care.https://nypost.com/2025/12/03/us-news/halle-berry-bashes-gov-gavin-newsom-at-nyt-summit-just-before-he-takes-stage/ >>2583724USAnos are gonna get a "we defeated Trump" term after this one anyway. Why put in the effort or jeopardize the bipartisan policies, when they are gonna collect the rewards all the same doing nothing?
Then the term after that, someone akin to the 2000s republican neocons they've been glazing will win, and then they can re-start the "Obama" script.
>>2583743elections are cancelled after the war starts
>>2583739I really hope people don't start falling for that radlib wokescold bullshit again. I have a feeling that shit ran its course and no one gives a fuck anymore, but if it comes back I will fucking leave this country I swear to god lmao
>>2583742 (me)
Also,
>“In 2025, there is a lot to still be talked about and discovered and uncovered, especially if you are a woman who is navigating midlife and thoughtfully considering your longevity, because in 2025 I, Halle Berry, and women of my age are simply devalued in this country,” the actress said.Haha. Won't anyone think of one of the most well paid actresses in Hollywood history who is worth >90 million dollars? Horrific!
>>2583742Dunno too many of the specifics, but it turns out it was less a tax loophole but apparently some technical details of the bill that’d let companies engage in price gouging or so. From the Governor himself:
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/AB-2467-Veto-Message.pdf
>I appreciate the author's intent to ensure access to comprehensive and up-todatetreatment of perimenopause and menopause. However, this bill's
expansive coverage mandate in conjunction with a prohibition on utilization
management (UM) is too far-reaching. Health plans use UM to ensure enrollees
receive the right care at the right time, which is especially important when there
are new and emerging treatments. Further, a mandate to cover non-FDA
approved treatments, without UM, is unprecedented. These factors, in
conjunction with ambiguities in the bill for undefined terms, raise concerns for
cost containment and bill implementation.
Basically from what it seems the Bill in its current form is more a boon to private companies at the cost of people, at least that seems to be the argument.
>>2583751Yeah so he vetoed a bullshit bill that pretended to provide better menopause care when in reality the fine print was awful
>>2583754That seems to be the gist, yeah. Halle Berry would be wealthier cause of it, so it’s kind of scummy to invoke sexism as the reason the bill was shot down.
>>2583750Was it 50 cent or lil’ Wayne that said Socialism was some plot to keep the hard working Black entrepreneur down? I remember there was some relatively famous rapper saying that.
>>2583760Based, hope Trumps brings the draft as well so american start protesting and taking down their overlords instead of eating burguer, watching marvel and anime.
>>2583718>Like, more than normalthat's already happening. the lib media refuses to report it.
>>2583505What do you think about your party dick riding an actual fascist as Venezuela is bombarded? Your party says Venezuela must wait for our elektions to run their course before they do anything
>>2583766>“Before was the American dream, ‘Pull yourself by the bootstraps, and you can make yourself…you can make it in America,’ all these lies that America told us our whole life,” Jay continued. “And then when we start getting in, they tried to lock us out of it. They start inventing words like you know, ‘capitalist,’ you know, things like that. I mean, you know, we’ve been called ‘n–ger’ and ‘monkeys’ and shit. I don’t care; those words y’all come up with. Y’all gotta come up with stronger words.” >>2583766Read settlers. Chauvinistic imperialist unionism, like your party, only dick rides fascists and keeps oppressed people down.
People need to realise all neoliberal states (which is most capitalist countries, especially "developed" ones) have all the problems America has. Individual "national" economies have slowly been taken up by one big super-economy, the international market where most of our perceived wealth is entirely stringpuppeted by debt. Politicians have no real power. We like to think they do. It's very convention to blame all of the nations problems on orange man or ice cream sleepy man when the two are almost exactly the same. The market dictates what these men do, not themselves. If the market/private sector tell a politician they cannot do this at risk of zero or reduced investment they will not do it. This is what social democrats learnt the hard way.
>>2583781I don’t care; those words y’all come up with.
Based. I wish all porkies were this honest.
>>2583790Porkies are honest. They're not retarded. At least, the important ones aren't. They are completely aware of the chaotic and wasteful nature of this system, they knows its illogical. They know its exploitive and thieving. They just don't care.
>>2583718My theory has been the quack health industry is behind this. Dr.Drew, Alex jones, Gwyneth Paltrow and I’m sure others are all vitamin supplements and other assorted snake oil salesmen have deep claws in the Republican Party.
>>2583781this sounds like disco elysium dialogue
>>2583798>not remotely based on realityHe is correctly pointing out that the american left only has words against their rulling class, and is in a way saying that the anti-capitalists should step up their game.
>>2583803t. someone who has never hung out with regular black people before.
>>2583808>I need people to tell me I should be hung by the neck by my own intestinesWhat a true fighter for our class.
>>2583809are "regular black people" raging antisemites?
>>2583793Historically and presently, the amerikan labor aristocrat unionist attitude towards Afrikan property is no different than Nazi to Jewish property, or zionist labor to Palestinian property. Even the most advanced settler colonialist labor aristocrat imperialist just wants to expropriate and exterminate them and divide the spoils equally.
>>2583808Wtf are you getting that? jay-Z is saying that anti-capitalism is a racist racist conspiracy against rich black people. He’s a retard that’s rubbing himself with billions in I’ll gotten gains and saying anyone questioning it just hates black people. It’s a perfect example of the capitalist class using idpol to justify their existence.
>>2583808he is saying the word "capitalist" was invented specifically to attack black people
>And then when we start getting in, they tried to lock us out of it. They start inventing words like you know, ‘capitalist,’ you know, things like that. I mean, you know, we’ve been called ‘n–ger’ and ‘monkeys’ and shit. I don’t care; those words y’all come up with.He is coming up with a fake timeline where there was "the american dream" and then the word "capitalist" was invented later on to attack black people who were trying to achieve "the american dream" that's not remotely true.
Americans are dumb dumb. More news at 10.
>>2583817>blah blah blah Ok but I don't think Jay-Z was operating in good faith when he suggested that the word capitalist was specifically invented as a racial slur to attack black billionaires like himself.
>>2583816very cool. now do aipac
>A Navy admiral tells lawmakers there was no "kill them all" order from Hegseth in the Sept. 2 attack that killed two drug boat survivors. (AP)
Are they going to pin it on the low ranking guys then?
release black red guard on him
>>2583697what was the reason artists can't stop trump or people they don't like from using their music?
>>2583828We be big pimpin spending cheese, Big Pimpin up in Tel Aviv, it's just that jigga man Pimp C and B-U-N B
>>2583803myron gaines is an arab from sudan. he just uses an anglo name for propaganda purposes
>>2583781shiiet I don't care about them words
ok monkey
(drop it) >>2583839you'd be surprised how many guys from west Asia are out here passing as African American
>>2583781I fucking hate this faggot so much. His entire life he cried about being forced to sell crack by the evil white owners only for him to grow rich and now do the same racial gas lighting he was so enlightened too. I hate rich people so much its unreal.
>>2583843Sudan is North Africa. So he technically is African American. Just Arab also.
>>2583835I like that song
>>2583847I'm being fake racist to this guy just like you can be fake mysognyst or fake homophobic
>>2583853i dont want to have an excuse to be a bigot
hip hop is based
>>2583781> inventing words like you know, ‘capitalist,’Someone send this idiot Frederik Douglas’ quote on the “slavery of wages”, pls?
>>2583869erm yeah you invented fredrick douglas to make black slave owners feel bad
>>2583857
this is nonsense
>>2583857
>degenerate
spooky moralist word croaked out by cranky old men on a variety of topics. just tell people to "exercise, eat right, and don't overdo fun things" like a normal person instead of crying about muh degeneracy nonstop
>>2583857
The correct take is that hiphop is based but it was coopted by rich people and destroyed like every other art form
Jeez I come back and there’s a lot of talk about the whole Jay-Z thing.
Like guys, it isn’t that hard: it’s class. That’s it. There’s nothing particularly special about any music genre or artist under Capitalism—“everything that’s sacred is profaned” and all that—whether it’s country or rap or whatever there’s people who have and people who have not.
>>2583874hip hop peaked with its commercialisation
you prefer the sugar hill gang to kendrick? lol
>>2583884false comparison, hip hop was already commercialized when sugarhill gang was around. the poetry of gil scott heron is closer in spirit to something like dead prez than sugarhill gang is to kendrick lamar, despite a similar time gap
>>2583891
you are obviously a troll operating in bad faith
You people sound like the avant garde liberal artists of the 80's who totally departed from trying to appeal to "regular people" because they had overwhelmingly voted thatcher and reagan and in the process they became ironic gentrifiers.
>>2583894Basically anyone who engages in treatler discourse is.
>>2583897pick an actual post to reply to
no
>>2583892why's that based
learn to embed I ain't clicking that
>>2583816FWIW, I don't think the average black guy is a hotep or the average white guy is a groyper. Give it a few more years and that could become the case.
>>2583921Don’t Hoteps actually kind of have some ideology or sense of collective purpose? Personally I just think race relations will continue to plummet, but it’ll be a kind of highly individualized and nihilistic rage. More “fuck these guys” than “we’re the heirs of Rome/Egypt/Israel”
>>2583921I think this will all accumulate into an American race type thinking. Still super reactionary but whiteness will be replaced with “Americansim” and be even more arbitrary.
>NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch’s brother called Zohran Mamdani an “enemy” of the Jewish people during a private charity dinner Wednesday night — a scolding that comes on the heels of the incoming mayor’s decision to retain Tisch as the city’s top cop, two sources with direct knowledge of the comment told the Daily News.
>…In comments after the initial publication of this story, Mamdani said Commissioner Tisch had reached out to his staff to apologize on her brother’s behalf.
>“The commissioner apologized to my team for those remarks, and I look forward to being a mayor for each and every New Yorker, including Jewish New Yorkers,” he told reporters Thursday at a press conference in Manhattan.https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/12/04/nypd-commissioner-tischs-brother-calls-mamdani-enemy-of-jewish-people-at-charity-dinner-sources/🤔
>>2583931ok maybe a certain metallic feline was correct about cops needing to be dealt with using IRA style tactics
>>2583929Yknow I kind of wonder the implications of Mamdani ordering Netanyahu’s arrest if the latter went to NYC. Like he probably won’t do it, but I definitely see it being a wake up call if he were to try and the NYPD told him to fuck off.
Like I don’t see any possibility of Netanyahu in cuffs unless Mamdani did it himself.
Nazis were hypocrites lol never believe any of their lies
>zeir goving to makes ze vorkers state
<first nation to introduce mass privatisation programs, get the unemployed doing voluntary labour in exchange for zero wages and create a sense of "volksgemeinschaft" by encouraging the rich and the poor to eat together literally once a year
>dont listen to ze untermensch amerikanische jazz musik
<bougies could listen to jazz and swing all day long no problem
>dont look at ze degenerate art ja
<opens a degenerate art exhibit that more people go and see than the nazi-approved realist art museum
>ve hate ze slavs zey are subhuman
<recruit them by the hundreds of thousands because your eastern front commanders tell you its retarded to conquer the largest land mass on earth without at least trying to appeal to the population
<but then you only recruit catholics first in the hopes they're more likely to be germanic
<but then by the time you also recruit eastern orthodox too the red army has already fucked the initial german successes
>ve hate ze homosexuals
<unless zey are in the SS, in which case vat can you do
>>2583939
You don't have to talk in the third person.
inb4
>hoxha did it
>>2583243I thought this was randy fine at first and then I read the title and realized it's platner's brother in law
>>2583924>>2583921are you guys retarded or something?
>>2583989Is there something in particular you take issue with in their claims? Genuinely curious.
>>2583989can you explain how what I said was retarded and why you're lumping me in with that other anon? For context, someone asked "are normal black people raging antisemites" and the response they got was a video of Black Hebrew Israelites, i.e. Hoteps, marching, as if that was an example of like the average black person when. All I said is that the average black person is not a hotep and the average white person is not a groyper.
>>2584002Why lie so brazenly like this? And to defend the fucking nazis of all people? Like, what is even the strategy here? I don't get it.
>>2583492>Feel optimistic about the world>Use all my savings to buy the WE'RE BACK asset on margin>It immediately crashesbros, it's over…
>Gov. Gavin Newsom says he disagrees with Mayor Zohran Mamdani about the need for a wealth tax on billionaires, which he is “adamantly against” - says Dems are a “big tent party” with both views
>>2584004Because now people will be arguing about Churchill and Dresden and the relative wrongness of whatever Israel is "accused" of doing rather than talking about what Israel is actually doing.
>>2584004>And to defend the fucking nazis of all people? This isn't the first time. Netanyahu does holocaust revisionism where he claims Hitler only decided to exterminate Jews after talking with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Amin al-Husseini, who was the Muslim leader in British Mandatory Palestine.
>Why lie so brazenly like this? To be fair, Churchill was a war criminal, but not with respect to Germany. He was a war criminal with respect to India and Bangladesh.
>>2584001There's just so many varieties reactionary grifter these days. It is seeming more and more unlikely that we will see a working class mass movement form in the imperial core when people are more concerned about the various forms of intersectional identity. There's a streamer grifter for every unique combination of ideological and identitarian attributes. Sometimes it feels like we're more likely to see mass marches of Hyperborea femboys and Hotep uncs than we are to see the international proletariat come together on the basis of any kind of coherent materialist program.
>>2584004To normalize Nazisim, that’s the end goal. The Zionist want a Nazi U.S that will force all the American Jews into Israel and us them as canon fodder.
>>2584030I wonder whether we're seeing a lot of them in particular now or whether this is actually "normal" and the relatively monolithic character of ideologies during a specific period of the 20th century was the anomaly. Or maybe there were tons of cults back then too.
>US allies are looking to exploit the Trump-Xi detente to improve relations with Beijing, with Britain, France and Germany among nations looking to seize the moment.
Lapdog moment
>>2583820this why he's just Nas but mid
>>2584032You know that the CPUSA supports Platner and every other Democrat, right?
Why do they get away with it here, despite an ostensible ban on reactionary opinions? It's almost like the mods are reactionaries themselves who hide behind the aesthetics of Communism, particularly anti-revisionist Marxism-Leninism, to conceal the fact that they are anti communists in reality.
>>2583549every time someone posts a /pol/ link i regret clickin it.
>uygha Im literally a Nazi.>I'd accept a king at this point if he hated shitskins even half as much as I do. Democracy is a russian saboteur tool to placate retards into thinking anyone gives a shit what they think. You have to be brown to actually believe that shit.these freaks are the most ideologically cucked people on the planet.
>>2584015Man the "big tent" excuse is the lamest fucking thing by Democrats. They'll alienate and isolate anyone left of center then if one manages to get past the firewall of establishment resistance they'll cry "We're a big tent! Oh wont someone think of the billionaires?!"
Shit I imagine part of the success of the Republicans is they seem at least to have some kind of ideal beyond being a stagnant pond of every tendency under the sun.
>>2584035>How are plan trusters still real?They were so back when he got re-elected after 4 years of it being so over
>>2583992I just don't think Americans are actually that racist on the whole, and I don't think we're ever going to have a revival of real American patriotism except for the minority of freaks and weirdos that suck up to the man, so to speak.
America is 40% non-white. We're insanely multicultural, and even though we (but in actuality only 30% of the voting population) voted for and elected an incredibly racist administration, I don't actually see people becoming more reactionary.
I think most Americans are sick of their shit, and the general trend for Americans is that we're getting less and less "proud" to call ourselves Americans. This is for multiple reasons, and a significant one is the blatant stupidity of the current administration and how everyone knows it.
The only reason we still have Trump as president with a fucking 36% approval rating and 60% disapproval rating is our electoral system is absolute fucking dogshit, and there is no accountability for four fucking years once someone makes it across the finish-line.
People below the age of 40 are trending more and more left wing, universalist, multicultural, pro-immigration, etc etc.
Trump is not the dawn of something new, Trump is a signifier of the wretched, fetid last gasp of the dying post-war American conservative superorganism. The fitful demented rage of a geriatric and now impotent asshole. That does not represent the people who work here. It only represents the worst of us, because our system is vulnerable to the self selection of narcissists.
>>2584123>paid bluecheck on xitteryikes
>>2584015I like how liberals can never defend their pro-capitalist policies on the merits. Even the average Democratic voter would be repulsed by bullshit like
<they would move away! think of the economy!so they have to use weaselly faux-inclusive rhetoric.
>>2584123imagine giving money to fascist elon
>>2584096>wait do burgers really?russian saboteur is the leftypol filter for the K word slur for jewish people lol. Mods put it in after October 2022 because of Ukrainian neo nazis calling other Ukrainians Russian saboteurs
>>2584104If it wasn't for the big tent nature of the Democrats your party would have no clout at all, since you're nothing more than a minor caucus of their party.
>>2584154they're not even a caucus, that's the DSA. they're endorsing dems for free.
>>2583894>>2583898The revolutionary national bourgeoisie of the Afrikan colony is not "capitalist," as the capitalism of today is in fact genocidal neocolonial monopolist imperialism. "Capitalist," as used against Jay-Z, is a slur used by working oppressors and exploiters against barriers to neocolonial accumulation. You vulgar colonialists equivocate Jay-Z with your president, yet you attack Jay-Z for speaking fact and defending himself.
>>2584157Neither party gets anything for their support and they never will. The DSA is supposed to do what's called a dirty break where they use the Democrats resources and clout to get elected then break with the party and become independent candidates, but they don't even do that. Rather they just funnel votes and support into a far right imperialist party for no benefit at all.
The "C"PUSA doesn't even pretend to do that, they just funnel their support into a far right imperialist party which is guilty of multiple genocides and then wonder why they're completely irrelevant and dead.
I hate the CPUSA more than any party in America and it's not just because CPUSAnon is a member. They are wreckers who exist to funnel the energy of the left into imperialism, which they seek to use as a tool to enrich the American homeland at the expense of everyone else on earth. They know this, they understand it and they still support it even after decades of it doing nothing but killing the left. They are an anti-communist party that should be physically liquidated by any means necessary.
>>2584165>I hate the CPUSA more than any party in America and it's not just because CPUSAnon is a member. They are wreckers who exist to funnel the energy of the left into imperialismI think you're right but you also seem really emotional and like your priorities are all over the place. They don't have shit for members, and their members are mostly old, right? They aren't even effective at their mission of funneling energy into imperialism, since there aren't that many people who join them in the first place. The vast majority of people, as you already point out, don't even bother joining the left-wreckers, they join the openly and explicitly imperialist DNC and GOP, either directly as registered party members, or indirectly, by staying "independent" but nevertheless only voting for DNC and GOP candidates. In your mind, the "C"PUSA is way more powerful than it is, because there's this supposed "revolutionary" energy that's getting "funneled" into imperialism, but the way you talk the other half of the time, there is no revolutionary energy to funnel into imperialism in the first place, because America Must Be Destroyed and so on and so forth.
>>2584004Netanyahu and a lot of Zionists do this thing where they act so brazenly evil that if you were to tell someone who's unfamiliar with them what they did, they would assume you're being hysterical and making shit up.
>>2584147deporting the afghan collaborators would be pretty funny tbh
>>2584093tweetanon, why do you repost tweets you already posted several threads ago?
I have decided to repost my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis Effort Post (from my Thread about the “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform”
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2382579.html ), detailing the two Shining Paths to Communism, the Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism and the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
The Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism operates under the assumption that their will be a total Fascist takeover of the Imperial Core in which Bourgeois Liberal Democracy is permanently suspended that will lead to an inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalating into a Global Nuclear War that will completely destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (In both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, where Maoist PPW is currently viable, as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW will not be viable until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended with these events being connected and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (The SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first Map I posted, the second Map I posted specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, while the third Image I posted shows the version of the Two-State Solution to the Zionist-Palestinian Conflict implemented in the future Global USSR with the Zionist State overthrown by a Maoist PPW and replaced by a Jewish SSR created inside the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land swaps that are very similar to the two Maps in the third Image I posted, while the West Bank and Gaza are placed in the Arab SFSR that will include all the Arab majority regions of West Asia and North Africa as shown in both my Map of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in the first Image I posted and the second Image I posted that specifically shows the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, and the 1:1 Land swaps between the Jewish SSR and Arab SFSR will mean that Arab villages in the “Triangle” region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_(Israel) on the Jewish side of the 1967 borders will be exchanged for Jewish Settlements on the Arab side of the 1967 borders that are inside the “Seam Zone”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seam_Zone , so most Arabs and Jews that are in the “population transfer”, will not have to leave their homes, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
In sharp contrast, the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism involves a unique juxtaposition of highly divergent Marxist praxis in the Imperial Core and the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, due to the dramatically different material conditions and class consciousness in these two regions. Thus, in the Periphery/Semi-Periphery there will be the traditional Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Praxis of Protracted Peoples War against all Bourgeois Dictatorships (of both the Comprador and Imperialist variety), while in the Imperial Core Maoists will critically support Left-Liberals/Social Democrats in order to defeat Fascism through the mechanisms of Liberal Bourgeois Democracy (ie. Elections) and eventually implement a UBI (that would replace the current Means-Tested and Earned Benefits Social Safety Net and be funded by a VAT and Flat Income Tax) that will divorce Income from employment as the 4th Industrial Revolution Automates most of the Workforce, combined with the legalization of all Victimless Crimes (legalized Abortion, Birth Control, LGBTQIA+ rights, Sex Work, Drug Use, Gun Ownership, etc.) in order to Hyper-Rationalize the Superstructure (ie. destroying the power of Organized Religion, Patriarchy, Nationalism, Systemic Racism, etc), and a Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy that will see the U$ close down all overseas Military Bases and accept a Multipolar World Order, with these policies essentially being a fusion of Social Democracy and Libertarianism, that I refer to as “Social Libertarianism: The New Synthesis of Liberalism”, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️!
You are probably wondering how these two seemingly contradictory ideological positions for different regions of the world come together to form a coherent whole that will ultimately place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, 🤔? The answer is through the 4th Industrial Revolution of AI, E-Commerce, Self-Driving Cars, 3D printing, Quantum Computing, Advanced Robotics, etc. that will Automate the vast majority of the Global Workforce in the next several decades, with the effects of this dramatic transformation of the Productive Forces creating the conditions for a dramatic shift in the Mode of Production worldwide from Capitalism to Socialism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️!
The effects of this in the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, will be seen through the Automation of global supply chains (thus, reshoring these supply chains back to the Imperial Core) in the next few decades, combined with the Green Energy Revolution (thus, eliminating the need for Oil/Gas production worldwide), leading to the rapid economic collapse of cheap labor/“sweatshop” countries like China (their is still a theoretical pathway for a Maoist faction to takeover the CCP and purge the Dengists in order to return China to the Socialist Mode of Production without another Maoist PPW there), India, Vietnam, Brazil, Mexico, etc. and Petrostates like Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, etc. that will leave all of these places ripe for successful Maoist PPWs that will sweep away all of these Bourgeois Comprador and Imperialist regimes and immediately establish Socialists States, thus effectively rapidly destroying Capitalism and Imperialism throughout the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️!
The effects of this in the Imperial Core will be seen with the establishment of “Social Libertarianism: The New Synthesis of Liberalism” in these countries through a pragmatic alliance between Left-Liberal/Social Democratic political parties/labor unions/social justice activists like AOC/Newsom and the Progressive wing of Capital (moderate Libertarian Silicon Valley Billionaires who support UBI and vote Democratic like Sam Altman, along with the Democratic voting Bourgeoisie in Hollywood, Academia, and the Media), who together will vanquish the Ultra-Reactionary Theocratic Christian Nationalist Zionist Fascist Right-wing “Populists” backed by the Reactionary Bourgeoisie (ie. the Military-Industrial Complex, Wall Street, the Oil industry, Big Pharma, Big Ag/Food, the Prison-Industrial Complex, the Musk/Thiel PayPal Mafia in Silicon Valley, and the Murdoch Media Empire, etc.) and subsequently implement UBI, Legalize Victimless Crimes, and institute a Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy (this will lead to the closure of all overseas U$ military bases, the end of the “New Cold War”, and the establishment of an independent Palestinian State on the 1967 borders with 1:1 Land Swaps as described in the Olmert/Lieberman Plan that is shown in the Two Maps in the Third Image I posted), that will create the most historically Progressive form of Capitalism possible that will be literally one step away from peacefully transitioning to Socialism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️!
By the end of the 21st century both of these processes will be completed, and both the Maoist Periphery/Semi-Periphery and Social Libertarian Imperial Core will be ready to slowly peacefully merge together into a Global USSR (that will make arrangements with the Progressive Bourgeoisie in the Imperial Core, and allow them to maintain some of their wealth, in exchange for giving up political power to the Communist Party and allowing for the creation of a Cybernetic Centrally Planned Socialist Economy) with every major Ethnic group/Nation receiving their own SSR or ASSR (their will finally be Self-Determination for New Afrika, Aztlan (in the Hispano-American SFSR that includes all of the Spanish speaking Multiracial regions of the Americas), the First Nations, Azawad (in the Berber SSR), Oromia, Afaria, Basque Country, Catalonia, Scotland, Wales, Sapmi, Palestine (in the Arab SFSR), Kurdistan, Circassia, Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Arabistan (in the Arab SFSR), Balochistan, East Turkestan, Tibet, Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh, Manipur, West Papua, Aboriginal Australia, Hawaii, etc.), that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️!
>>2584173What's the point of a tweet where you just quote exactly what is said in the photo you attached? Also lol at the 10 likes
>>2584181that's the first image result i found so i use it without bothering to crop the image
>>2584184Well, now I just realized why they requote things. It attaches their personal handle to a more famous figure and people looking a quote up might give them more views.
>>2584168There were several chances to make revolution in America and the CPUSA intentionally squandered all of them by dismissing class struggle and focusing on class collaboration. We would probably at least have some social Democrats in America if not for the CPUSA and their intentional sabotage of the left.
Would any of my fellow Comrades like to provide an In-depth Intellectual critique of the two Shining Paths to Communism presented in my Dialectical Materialist Effort post at
>>2584180 , 🤔?
>>2584197CPUSA was just following the Khrushchevite line of Peaceful Coexistence. The later Maoist realignment towards working with the USA didn't help change their mind.
>>2584180are you sure you're not just schizophrenic?
>>2584201Basically most of our positions amounted to towing the Moscow line, people seething about it for failing to be "true internationalists" or whatever, then those people forming kind of cultish micro-sects which end up either creating a mirror to a line we already adopted or burning out through sheer incompetence.
>>2584168>The CPUSA funnels energy into Imperialism.This is frankly a completely batshit take not rooted in anything even remotely close to material analysis. There's no "mission to funnel energy into imperialism" nor support of Imperialism. They can't point to any tangible support for imperialism, it's always the most tenuous connections that's linked together through sheer hyperbole. "CPUSA thinks Dems are better than Republicans ergo they must support everything the Dems do"
Speaking in pure material terms, Obama eased sanctions on Cuba and Trump ratcheted them up. The Clinton admin briefly floated easing sanctions on the DPRK only to be told by the incoming Republican admin that any sanctions they remove are just gonna be put back in place by Bush and friends. Shit, a big controversy regarding us was when we let a Cuban politician write some fawning letter about Hillary Clinton.
The reality is that Felix doesn't do materialist analysis, nor even rational analysis. He claims most Americans are willing collaborators in Imperialism but then claims we should be like South African Communists, a self-contradicting ideal because South Africa was a black majority country and he's saying we're all Boers. Not once, in any of his numerous rants, does he talk about material matters like bases of support or the actual conditions of laborers here, he goes on these sweeping hyper-emotional rants and then peppers them with a handful of Marxist or Leninist terms to claim there's some kind of material quality transferred to them by virtue of invoking the holy names.
People are more than welcome to offer critique, but when it amounts to moralistic phrasing without a materially backed argument then it ain't Marxist critique in the slightest.
>>2584180the emojis and writing style make you look insane, just so you know. Aside from that, yeah you're actually somehow correct. The path you describe that
isnt nuclear war lol is the most intuitive and simple that makes sense from what I see. The imperial core is going to have a really weird form of revolution where it's just boring electoral politics and libbed up leftism because that's all we can do, and the periphery will surround us and it will make sense to simply merge and drop the capitalism.
I don't know why you do the emojis. Maybe it's some kind of defense mechanism. But either way, yeah pretty straightforward and normal analysis when you dig through all the superfluous details thrown in
>>2584209I think it's safe to say and to also probably repeat constantly, the likelihood that Magnesium Franklin displays the behavioral traits of someone in a manic psychosis and that is not a joke
>>2584212There were a bunch of dudes trying to pretend “Oh he was probably KICKED OUT OF THE PARTY for that PSYCHOTIC REVISIONISM” as cope when that was pointed out, and as far as I know that isn’t the case because you don’t see most foreign communist governments act like insane ultras.
>>2584197uhhhh lmao what chances? If it was possible, it would have happened. I don't think you know what it actually takes to have what you describe as "revolution" buddy lol
>>2584215I was hoping she'd win Antisemite of the Year but unfortunately that dickhead Tucker Carlson is probably gonna get it
>>2584216Yeah it was BS
>>2584209You provide material support to the imperialist Democrats. Simple as. Your goal is not to create revolutionary conditions in America but to do entryism into an imperialist party in an attempt to more equitably distribute the spoils of American imperialism among the Volk. You have rejected entirely the doctrine of class struggle and replaced it with class collaboration, working with the bourgeoisie to dominate the world in the hopes that some of the spoils will trickle down into the pockets of the Volk if you're good enough and loyal enough.
Your party isn't even Kautskyite or reformist. You are simply faacists. You gain nothing for this, you do not have any real influence and clout, you just sell out your credibility for nothing over and over again.
Your party killed the American left and your party does everything in it's power to ensure that it can never rise again. Exactly as planned, for social fascists.
>>2584210Thanks Comrade, as I have stated many times the emojis are part of my unique Eccentric/Eclectic posting style that I believe make my very serious content more entertaining/enjoyable for both myself and my fellow Comrades, but if more of my Comrades would take your approach and ignore the Eccentric/Eclectic presentation and actually read my In-Depth Dialectal Materialist with an unbiased open mind, they would realize I am actually the most Rational High-Quality poster on all of Leftypol, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584226while you disturb and confuse me, I simultaneously enjoy your presence as uncomfortable as it may be
>>2584224>>2584225In real life, you faggots will amount to nothing, help no one, and hopefully be punched in the mouth until you learn to shut the fuck up and calm down 👍
>>2584229You are, quite literally, less than nothing. You are a net loss to this world
Yeah I'm getting the feeling that the ACP and Fag Shrimpenada are fed adjacent. I think in the coming years, we'll see more of them, and they'll be an actual nuisance.
>>2584224>You provide material support to the imperialist Democrats.When it’s a choice between democrats and Curtis LeMay or some other psychotic “bomb em all” con then it’s ridiculous to say the moral stink of voting Dem is so great that if you’re in the position to prevent some psychotic right winger from coming to power by voting you’ll choose not too.
>Your goal is not to create revolutionary conditions in America but to do entryism into an imperialist party in an attempt to more equitably distribute the spoils of American imperialism among the Volk.“Volk volk volk volk” you’re using meaningless phrases as and moral condemnation to obscure the utter lack of material analysis. You use the term “volk” to make it seem “extra Nazi” or whatever.
>>2584225Once more they’re objectively correct that a sectarian split allowed Hitler to come to power, you can’t actually dispute that so instead you’re seething “Well they’re saying the KPD were WRONG!” The KPD were murdered by the Nazis after the latter came to power, I think it’s pretty obvious “After them, us!” Was ridiculous.
>>2584227Annnnd here you are literally siding with an open Neo-Nazi and claiming he’s to the “left” of an actual Communist Party, which objectively shows how puerile your politics are.
>>2584228Thanks Comrade, but outside of my uniquely Eccentric/Eclectic posting style (ie. The Emoji’s and random Capitalizations), what exactly is “disturbing” and “confusing” about my posts, 🤔✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584231you ultra "anti-revisionists" act in bad faith and never back down, all you do is talk shit and foam at the mouth. Understand this: the only way to deal with you when the time comes is violence, because you all have proven that you do not care to discuss in a civil manner.
You will get what you want. You will get violence. And it will be your fault. And you will fail miserably like every other cult like you in the past has done.
This is a warning
>>2584233>Once more they’re objectively correct that a sectarian split allowed Hitler to come to power,It was actually the SPD completely crushing the spartacists by siding with and employing the freikorps what allowed Hitler to come to power, this is literally the accepted historical interpretation, it's not even a matter of controversy, you're a fascist.
>>2584235Not only are you the ones doing blatant revisionist, you're also the one that first instigated violence, this is just how a fascist operates. Again, you are less than nothing, you should be ridden of.
>>2584237Yeah I have no expectations from treatlerite pig americans, nor does the rest of the world.
>>2584236You keep arguing about changing the past rather than engaging in material analysis "The SPD Crushed the Spartacist Uprising!" Yes, they did, still doesn't change the fact that an SPD/KPD front could've stopped Hitler. You're basically saying "Hitler coming to power is a small price to pay compared to working with the center-left."
>>2584238About 3 years from now or so when you weirdos actually start to make the news, I want you to remember what I'm telling you in this thread.
You are going to eat shit in front of literally everyone. You will be embarrassments. And it will be
your fault.
That's my advice. Take it or leave it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>2584239>You keep arguing about changingOnly an imbecile as stupid as you could hear Joe Sims speak and decide to waste their time in the CPUSA, I'm not "arguing about changing the past" you little moron, I'm giving the very obvious interpretation you can give to the post, they're championing social democrats at their worst: when they sided with fascists, because they are fascists.
>>2584240>You are going to eat shit in front of literally everyone. You are already eating shit you gigantic moron, you're going to champion the wettest napkins the DSA could produce and they're going to give Trump everything he wants, and it IS your fault, retard. You don't have to deposit the humiliation in my savings account, I can laugh at you right now.
>>2584239Comrade CPUSAnon, what is your Intellectual critique of the two Shining Paths to Communism presented in my Dialectical Materialist Effort post at
>>2584180 , 🤔?
>>2584243Alllright but don't say I didn't warn you lol. Get out there and try your best! I'll be watching!
>>2584244It's fucking stupid because it relies on the assumption that supply chains will naturally orbit back to the US by some miracle even though the US has no monopoly over breakthrough industry anymore, and AI isnt as transformative as you promise it will be. It's a pipe dream, China will continue on its path towards the top of the supply chain, and the US will need to determine whether it plays nice or engulfs the world in nuclear apocalypse, judging by how Trump is faring, the former is more likely.
>>2584246This is a pathetic number from your part, go seethe somewhere else you cretin
I just realized that I forgot to post the Maps associated with my Dialectical Materialist Effort Post detailing the Two Shining Paths to Communism at
>>2584180 , 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584249Nonono go on! Go and do the revolution! I wanna see if you're right. Stop posting here and do revolution stuff. I'm not stopping you…
>>2584253Case by case basis
>>2584253Basically irrelevant factoid, the freikorps turned on the SPD literally a year later and eventually the comintern recognized the larger fascist threat, this makes them look like morons on top of being collaborators
>>2584247The U$ is still 26% of Global GDP, has the undisputed Global Reserve Currency (The Goldman Sachs sponsored U$/Zionist Controlled Opposition “BRICS” bullshit is a total joke), more Natural resources then any other country, 100% Food/Energy independence, the most ideal Geopolitical situation (bordered by two gigantic uncrossable Oceans and two pathetically weak Puppet States, which together make it completely immune to Conventional Military Attack), the Worlds Strongest Military (ie. B-2/B-21 Stealth Bombers, F-22/F-35 Stealth Fighters, 11 Aircraft Carriers, JASSM/LRASM/Tomahawk Standoff Stealthy Cruise Missiles, etc.), and is home to Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and Hollywood, giving it Full Spectrum Economic/Technological/Information/Military/Cultural Dominance over the entire Planet (ie. America is the World, the World is America, or “We're all living in Amerika” as Rammstein said), with every other country but Cuba and the DPRK (the last two Socialist States), being either an open U$ Puppet State (ie. The EU/NATO countries, GCC countries, RIO Pact countries, GUAM countries, MNNA countries like Japan, South Korea, “Taiwan”, etc.) or Crypto-U$/Zionist Puppet State Controlled Opposition that engage in Kabuki Theatre with the U$ (ie. China, Russia, Iran, etc.), with China being the most notable of these countries as they are basically the Global Democrats, while the U$ are the Global Republicans in the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, so with all of these facts in consideration I think the 4th Industrial Revolution Automating Global Supply Chains so they can be Reshored back to the Imperial Core with no Workers (ie. Zero Labor Costs due to AI doing everything) is very realistic/inevitable in the next few decades, with the big question being whether the U$ goes Fascist or Social Democratic, which will determine whether we are on the Global Nuclear War (if the U$ goes Fascist) or Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar (If the U$ goes Social Democratic) Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584233You support the Democrats in every election for every position. Your party, in practice, is nothing but a small caucus of Democrats who gains nothing for their steadfast support. The Democratic party is the single largest impediment to forming any sort of left wing party in America and it must be destroyed. You do not want to do that, you have no aspirations towards a revolution either now or in the future. You just want to collaborate with the bourgeoisie to enrich the American homeland at the expense of everyone else alive.
You hide from this truth constantly and change the topic to be about semantics instead of the cast iron reality that you are Democrats painted with a coat of red paint so thin that you can still see the blue underneath. You are not even reformists, you trade your unquestioned support of the Democratic party for nothing.
I am sure you will hide from this like the little coward rat that you are, but you can't hide forever. Slowly I will erode your defenses and reach my goal, which is your complete decomposition and suicide.
>>2584260Why don't you take that energy and go do something in Minecraft?
>>2584251no ur right bestie we should organize the next no kings* protest, you're sooo correct, this time we will surely get the cheeto dorito to fold
*no tyrants in the uk to avoid offending the royaled folk
>>2584267>the government is the aggressor! expose it!i mean even calcium phoenix has said that people getting hurt/killed by the government is a necessary part of escalating against the government and preparing the people for armed struggle.
>>2584264I know America must be destroyed and you along with it.
>>2584235Come get me, your comrades in Ukraine have already doxxed me several times. Nothing would make me happier than actually getting to shoot a fascist.
What is the big argument in this thread even about, 😂🤣🤔? I honestly feel that if both sides of this “debate” just read my Dialectical Materialist Effort Post detailing the Two Shining Paths to Communism at
>>2584180 , they would be able to quickly resolve this dispute and agree to a common Maoist Line, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584278you're weird but at least you're friendly
>>2584260This anon is unhinged, schizophrenic, and not implausibly a federal agent, but nonetheless every single word of this post is correct. No one will ever take the CPUSA (or any other American "leftist" organization for that matter) seriously until they stop endorsing, supporting, and contributing organizationally and even financially to the Democratic Party.
>>2584281Thanks Comrade, I feel that it is pretty stupid for my fellow Comrades/Posters to get extremely angry/vengeful/disrespectful towards each other on this website considering that none of us actually matter or have any ability to seriously change anything beyond voting, peaceful protests, attending book clubs etc. (As much as the Internet “Tough Guys” don’t want to admit it, Adventurist Glowie Fedposting dose not count as anything but retarded behavior that will put you and your friends, family, and even fellow posters/comrades in serious danger and potentially get this website shutdown), we all agree on the vast majority of issues, and we don’t even know each other face to face (ie. Many of the people we are “arguing” with could be Bots, Feds/Glowies, or Trolls, etc.), so these over the top arguments seem like a complete waste of time, 😂🤣✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584284Yes the Democratic party is our PRIMARY enemy. It is the largest impediment towards forming a real Communist party in America and the only way forward is to destroy it utterly. But the "C"PUSA does not do this. They do not even try. They support the Democrats in both word and deed and therefore are in practice an anti-communist party. Ever since Foster lost the power struggle to Browder the "C"PUSA has been nothing but collaborators.
>>2584301All three of these "people" should be shot and you should too for following them.
>>2584304there's 5 in the image
>>2584307My Glock holds ten rounds.
>>2584296Comrade, please read my Dialectical Materialist Effort Post detailing the Two Shining Paths to Communism at
>>2584180 , so you understand that despite the Democrats technically being Controlled Opposition, if the U$ does not go Fascist (A Fascist U$ means that we are on the Global Nuclear War Shining Path to Communism) the Democrats (especially a Newsom/AOC ticket that supports UBI and implements my “Ideal Winning 2028 Democratic Platform” detailed in my thread at
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2382579.html ) could play a key role in implementing the Social Democratic/UBI/4th Industrial Revolution/AI/Multipolar Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2584309i don't trust your ability to count based on your previous post tbh
>>2584320
The SEALs do not have any impulse control their missions are just classified. They did the same thing as this or worse every night in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>2584320
In 2019 navy seals went on a secret mission to do espionage in north korea. they fucked up before even reaching the shore when they were spotted by fishermen. they opened fire and shot the fishermen. both the dead and the ones who were still alive were stabbed in the lungs and thrown in the water to conceal the bodies
On the fedjacketing bit, you know the CPUSA has been infested with glowies since the 1950s, right? You guys are aware that the FBI and the CIA had (has?) a network of infiltrators working within the CPUSA, especially after the arrest of high profile members and operation CHAOS? You guys are aware of this, I hope.
>>2584331The "C"PUSA of today is even farther right than they were under browder, too. They provide open and unquestionable support to a party carrying out a literal genocide in Palestine. They do not want a revolution now or ever they want class collaboration and reform of imperialism to benefit the American Volk.
Every word I say is correct and when any of you do even basic research you find that out, yet you still doubt me and side with an actual fascist over Marxism-Leninism.
>>2584344Yes and this is why they hold the views they do. The "C"PUSA is nothing more than a Honeypot trap designed to destroy the left for the benefit of the bourgeoise.
i swear to god this thread has the same energy as a bunch of old men arguing about half remembered boxing matches they watched decades go
>>2584348
They would support it if their chosen candidate Kamala Harris was doing it.
>>2584358
Because they are an imperialist party that supports imperialism on the condition that it benefits the American volk. Of course, that condition never comes true but they still refuse to withdraw their support of the Democrats.
>>2584257
>I think the 4th Industrial Revolution causing a restoring of Global Supply Chains back to the Imperial Core is very realistic in the next few decades
I don't see how, again, the crux of the matter is that the only reason why industrial capital has historically flown and remained within the US has been through strict monopoly of breakthrough industry. There's 0 reason why China, and indeed, the rest of the world, wouldn't also take advantage of AI, and in fact China has quite the lead on this specifically, because there's 0 market appetite to actually invest in manufacturing automation within the states. It's a matter of time until capital realizes this and starts moving away from the US. Like I said, there are only two alternatives moving forward.
>>2584366
you must be new to not know of the escapades of this particular individual
>>2584362It can't come true anymore, but the CPUSA still operates as if it's possible. This is why it's stuck pursuing fleeting concessions.
>>2584365 linking to the right post
>>2584258 >>2584202Why is the black electorate so moderate
>>2584227
> Anti imperialist
> supports Venezuelan invasion and boat strikes on random fisherman
Maybe you just like him because you are a right-winger
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>>2584380>>2584202The sooner people realize that Amerikkka is the enemy not a friend to be made of, the better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDyqNocp14This is very good, I recommend comrades watch.
>>2584417Titled: Why MAGA is not working class. Feat John Bellamy Foster.
Dr. Foster speaks very well on the issue.
>>2583110I bet that never gets changed.
>>2584375Also in the same polls have the most positive reception to "socialism" and the highest group to oppose War with Venezuela. It is less a moderate group but more that the bloc chooses moderate candidates.
Man US tech is now just a completely anti-social industry. None of these companies are even attempting to make a product that’s good for society, or even community, at this point. The goal seems to be some completely autistic culture of people with locked in syndrome who can’t even think, can’t hold a conversation, can make a meal, can’t even function.
>>2590970>bumping a dead thread to make a casual observation to nobody in particulary>apparently thinks "autism" means total lack of any functionality like RFKsheesh
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