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>>2582956Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 4chud is down
>>2584389a lot of things are down right now… interesting…
>>2584389They'll be back up in 30 minutes.
So the US Navy took out another narco boat, was it narcos?
>>2584389rip in pieces/piss/power
>>2584387It means exactly what it says. Do you need help reading?
>>2584389>Why is the black electorate so moderateThink there's two things going on here. One is that it's kind of a statistical artifact of the fact that blacks overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats, so you have some number of those who are center-right (really) but they are Democrats because they perceive the Republicans as threatening to them because they're black. It's not so much that blacks are so conservative relative to whites in general since there's a big white bloc that is voting for the Republicans.
The other thing is that blacks are generally pretty pragmatic and these voters want to defeat the Republicans so they'll go with Newsom because they think he has a better shot at it. Maybe that is incorrect, or maybe not, and it's an interesting question why the black electorate is like this, or what in history shaped this approach. But it's sometihng like that. (As a subsection tying it into this CPUSA thing, I actually kind of suspect that one reason why the CPUSA is like that is because it's historically a bit blacker than a lot of Marxist groups, the co-chair is black, some of their most well-known people in history like Angela Davis are black.)
>>2584202i like how newsom is already effectively coronated 4 years out. what a stupid ass country
>>2584402His thesis for a long time: "Imperialism benefits Americans and CPUSA supports imperialism for that reason"
His New Thesis: "CPUSA supports imperialism
on the condition that it benefits Americans but
that condition never comes true."
Extra clown juice: "Nick Fuentes is more anti imperialist than CPUSA"
>>2584412>that condition never comes true.Not him but you're getting opportunities and goods due to imperialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDyqNocp14Titled: Why MAGA is not working class. Feat John Bellamy Foster.
This is very good, I recommend comrades watch.
>all US citizens must leave Venezuela
this is an official travel statement
>>2584387"Imperialism" should be worldfiltered
>>2584387b8. report. Nobody deserves a free pass for saying that a nazi lover who supports maga wars is to the right of the CPUSA, as much the CPUSA, even if it could be argued, and it is up to debate, that the party is useless.
>>2584387Tin Felix is a groyper? Seems almost obvious now
>>2584389Embrace yourselves.
yeah we should block words like capitalism and proletariat and bourgeois and "mode of production" and "private property" and stuff like that
honkoid status?
>>2584494tin fedlix already gave up your game by admitting Fuentes is anti imperialist and cpusa isn't, sorry
>>2584512
ok groyper
>>2584512
No, war with Venezuela
>>2584448this is the logical conclusion to the "anti-third-worldist" sentiment in this website
ban americans from discussion
>>2584414So is the whole world.
>The Trump administration said on Friday that Europe is facing the “stark prospect of civilizational erasure” and pledged that the United States will support like-minded “patriotic” parties across the continent to prevent a future in which “certain NATO members will become majority non-European.”
america really is just tsarist Russia
>>2584519You just hate fun lmao
>>2584586who was upgraded? mexico?
>>2584586Oh now this is fucking hilarious
>>2584533Sorry but I can't relax around amerikkkans meanwhile they fund a genocide in Gaza and bomb Venezuela.
>>2584595Unironically yes. Trump regime is shifting focus to latin america over China. Expect fascist dictatorships and death squads hunting communists and labor activists in order for USA companies to make bigger profits from LatAm resources.
>>2584595not in this document but there was a pentagon report a few months ago saying the focus would be less on china and more on americas neighbors in the hemisphere so I'd assume so
>>2584565It's why RAM has tripled in price recently.
>>2584603meanwhile american lefties will sit on their asses waiting for CPUSA to magically become anti-revisionist (we just need to keep waiting until le boomers die, comrades!)
>>2584599its not, latam will get Gaza'd
>>2584619>BloombergEven if all these numbers are legit, what are you trying to achieve by posting this?
>>2584616That’s not what they’re waiting for at all. System faith has collapsed. They await the breaking point now.
>>2584619Cucks and retards
>>2584625Venezuela will be alone in their fight against america, no help is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if they let their airspace be used either lol
>>2584412>>2584387>His thesis for a long time: "Imperialism benefits Americans and CPUSA supports imperialism for that reason"That's quite literally the material line the CPUSA has followed since its conception, anyone who has taken a glance at the history of CPUSA will be able to tell you this, but you dumb uyghas are deadly afraid of research. The early history of CPUSA is marked by factional disputes with Lovestonites who peddled american exceptionalism and believed that capitalism was so strong and special in america that a) it would avert any crisis and b) revolution was out of question, american capitalism was just that special and strong and wouldn't be able to be beaten. They even broke with Stalin (1) over this. Brower believed that national unity required collaborating with "big capitalists" (2). This material line is not even just a historical oddity, here's Sam Webb (a Bernsteinian, no less) during his tenure atop of CPUSA during 2009 asking communists to "follow the example of our Depression-era comrades." no doubt referencing CPUSA's history of collaboration and inaction (3). The CPUSA has been infested with glowies for more than half a decade (4). The CPUSA has had illustrious figures like John Bachtell, a literal Obama alumni, at its helm( "I was really active in both Obama campaigns")(5). It's party structure and alleged mass organs are actually a network of shell corporations that exist to reward the top brass with cozy salaries (6), and its processes are so obviously top-down and anti-democratic that anyone who stays there for long is either a dumb mark or is materially benefiting from it, or both. In it's current form it's simply an offshoot of the democratic party and it's only purpose is to extract donations and dues, and lead would-be communist into supporting democratic electoral campaigns on the grounds of "lesser evilism". Any and all self-professed CPUSA members on this board should be laughed at. NO EXCEPTION.
(1)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/205074723/0000-Stalin-Onamericanparty(2)
https://www.marxists.org/archive/browder/1944/teheran-path.htm(3)
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/the-communist-party-a-work-in-progress-in-a-changing-world/(4)
https://archive.org/details/CPUSA/CpusaMembers-ny100-80638-1/page/n60/mode/1up(5)
https://www.cpusa.org/article/gawker-com-interviews-cpusa-head-john-bachtell/(6)
https://www.intpubnyc.com/board-of-directors/ >>2584628>Venezuela will be alone in their fight against america, no help is coming.Everyone knows that already
>>2584636If I'm reading it correctly the article is just admitting that the falling plane wasn't fortuitous and instead, a result of making a hard turn to avoid a missile. But the incident is the one from April.
>>2584629lol you quoted one half of the post out of context thinking people wouldn't notice
>>2584651>thinking people wouldn't noticeI quoted the specific portion that's obviously true and I used it as a launchpad to very very very briefly examine why historically that's the case, thanks for noticing I guess?
>>2584654welcome to nu-/leftypol/
>>2584647I havent seen any americans saying other latam countries will help Venezuela, I imagine anyone who calls themselves a marxists knows that the US killed all the communists worth a shit in latam during the cold war.
>>2584658what would happen if you showed this to a magatard?
>>2584586The USA becomes a glorified mercenary force for the newly ascendant BRICS imperialist order in 3…2…1…
>>2584665they would say you are brown or trans
America is just a giant fall for it again award. Blue retard man and red retard man trying to make you think they're individuals and not people who follow the cruel logic of the market.
>>2584669what if I'm brown AND trans?
>>2584669>>2584674what happens when its impossible to persuade political opponents by empirical evidence and reason?
>>2584668ngl with all the action happening in eurasia i wouldn't be suprised if americas new role in the world would simply be on the sidelines kinda isolated funding and arming and giving intelligence to the insane wars going on across the ocean
Yeah, sure, the price of living is absolutely skyrocketing, but Trump said eggs are way down so hehe take that.
>>2584387Some of us still remember when he said race riots were objectively good and when questioned about that repeatedly fell back on "Joe Slovo said so" and that's how he became the #1 Joe Slovo fan despite never being able to produce a quote of Joe Slovo where he said "race riots are good" just much more abstract stuff about escalating against a racist government in a neocolony.
>>2584629Except the post wasn't meant to defend CPUSA but to laugh at his absurd conclusions about Fuentes and his sudden shift in narrative.
>>2584656it's not a "nu-leftypol" thing it's a usapol thing. You don't see people saying we need to censor the word imperialism in any of the generals pertaining to the conflicts the US government starts.
just respond to these tweets with "wishful thinking" over and over
it's true
>>2584586Well that's somewhat relieving, on the one hand, because it means the empire is retreating from escalation with China, but it is somewhath horrifying, on the other hand, because it means a significant increase in fucking with Latin America
What's interesting is that as America gets weaker and weaker as a declining empire, going from a global force to a mere regional force, it'll become easier and easier for rivals to "flip the script" so to speak, and fund proxy wars against America in America's "backyard" the way America used to do to its rivals…
>>2584684>Except the post wasn't meant to defend CPUSA but to laugh at his absurd conclusions about Fuentes He posted it in reply to one of my posts where I accused CPUSA of being rhetorically close to Nick Fuentes wanting a red-brown alliance, the real iron penis may go overboard and exaggerate but his heart is in the right place: the CPUSA is pretty fascist adjacent
>>2584692Well this isn't exactly surprising to me. The markets logic is that in order to maintain some kind of competitive monopoly it needs to take resources by force, because neocolonialism and extortionate tariffs isn't enough.
>>2584692>it'll become easier and easier for rivals to "flip the script" so to speak, and fund proxy wars against America in America's "backyard" the way America used to do to its rivalsabsolutely. imagine a color revolution in new orleans
Harvard Law prof who fired pellet gun near synagogue, said he was ‘hunting rats’ agrees to leave US
>https://nypost.com/2025/12/05/us-news/harvard-law-prof-who-fired-pellet-gun-near-synagogue-said-he-was-hunting-rats-agrees-to-leave-us-dhs/Carlos Portugal Gouvea, 43, copped Nov. 13 to a single charge of illegal use of the air rifle in connection with the Oct. 2 incident outside of Brookline’s Temple Beth Zion, which took place on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in Judaism.
The scholar was arrested by ICE Boston Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) Wednesday and agreed to return to Brazil voluntarily to avoid deportation, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
“It is a privilege to work and study in the United States, not a right,” DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement. “There is no room in the United States for brazen, violent acts of anti-Semitism like this. They are an affront to our core principals [sic] as a country and an unacceptable threat against law-abiding American citizens.”
>>2584686the inflation peaked midterm Biden, as pointed out a few threads ago.
see
>>2581510
>Inflation was highest in midterm Biden, so about 8-9% throughout 2022. By the time he was back in office in 2025 it was something like 2.95%:https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
>Right now it's 3% as of the latest data I could be bothered to find (September). So pretty much the same as when Biden left office. >>2584696> the CPUSA is pretty fascist adjacentThey're liberals. i.e. I know blah blah blah scratch a lib, social democracy is the moderate wing, blah blah blah, you gotta understand how this sounds when you've got ACP doing actual interviews with Fuentes and pushing economic positions like "ethical landlords" and "communists don't oppose private property" not to mention social stuff I won't mention since a lot of you handwave any concern about that that as "radlib idpol"
>>2584670>nOt sUrE 1/3rd of the country seems to be perpetually oblivious
>>2584707The CPUSA has tailed the ACP here and there, so it's a matter of time until they tail that shit too
>>2584676You disengage or beat them.
>>2584616I don't expect any of the revisionist parties will magically become anti revisionist. I expect that America will destroy itself through its self-cannibalizing logic and make itself a pariah through its reactionary foreign policy, become geopolitically irrelevant, forget how to maintain its own nuclear stockpile, and eventually get invaded and balkanized by a much more powerful country, or bloc of countries.
>>2584711yeah. all the parties are dogshit in their own way.
>>2584670>anon the cold war ended over thirty years agoWhat even is this argument? The effects of shock thearpy didnt end just because a wall in berlin got knocked down, retard. Chile for example is still like 80% the same as it was just after Pinochet left power. If you kill all the communists worth a shit who could have been teachers, professors, etc. then the only people left to "guide" newer generations of leftists are opportunists.
>and doesn't exactly explain why the americans support this war much less generallyPeople in latam hate Maduro because of the venezuelan migratory crisis, they see him as responsable, and all the local MSM has been manufacturing consent against him for years. People in the US meanwhile get mostly "Xi-Putin bad" news and their migratory crisis doesnt come with a mainly venezuelan accent, and they see this as possibly Iraq war 2.0.
>>2584718>People in latam hate Maduro because of the venezuelan migratory crisisI think most people in latam see the US as fundamentally untrustworthy. The atmosphere is fear and tension, even among Maduro detractors. Within Venezuela, even, they still haven't got the smell of Guaidog out of their nostrils
>>2584718>People in latam hate Maduro because of the venezuelan migratory crisis, they see him as responsableyou would think that they would see clearly that the US sanctions are the cause of that
>>2584715>I don't expect any of the revisionist parties will magically become anti revisionistThey won’t
> I expect that America will destroy itself through its self-cannibalizing logic and make itself a pariah through its reactionary foreign policyAlready happening
>become geopolitically irrelevant, forget how to maintain its own nuclear stockpile, and eventually get invaded and balkanized by a much more powerful country, or bloc of countries.Everything but the balkanization won’t happen
>>2584718kinda funny how latams hate Venezuelans more than they hate american imperialism
>Iraq? Yeah we want a whole lot of that right on our doorstep lol >>2584161Beyonce is a different question. Beyonce is part of the very small fraction of compradores that has diverged from the revolutionary national bourgeoisie of the Afrikan colony. You see any sucessful Afrikan in the way the working Nazi saw sucessful jews or labor zionist sees Palestinian with property.
You equivocate Jay-Z and Beyonce because any rich afrikan is every neocolonialists' problem. It is neocolonizer cope to equivocate Trump and Jay-Z. The Black Panther Party encourage Afrikan business and Afrikan economic self-determination which compradores like Beyonce are inimical to.
Explain why you neocolonizers are crying about Jay-Z being slandered and slurred as genocidal monopolist capitalist like what your cracker party supports, as theyve been dick riding platner and ziohran and bernie and aoc. Every social fascist in fact.
>>2584715>become geopolitically irrelevantWill never happen, same as with Russia after the fall of the USSR.
>I expect that America will destroy itself through its self-cannibalizing logicIt will at least try to eat latam first.
>>2584725Why? Does the average US american see it clearly like that? Does the average US american see that the reason Cuba is broke is because of US economic block or do they think is because "muh socialism just doesnt werk"? All countries have retarded rightoids.
>>2584735>Will never happen, same as with Russia after the fall of the USSR.Ok; geopolitically less relevant then
FUCK FIFA
CORRUPT SELLOUTS
>>2584728Same way how the US american right hates browns and trans so much that they are ok with their orange god destroying their country.
>>25847331. you're not as funny as you think you are
2. they're married to each other lol
>>2584737You are the pig fuckers.
Of all things happening on planet, the cracker "Communists" are crying about Jay-Z and the rest of the revolutionary national bourgeoisie of the Afrikan colony. Why is this?
It is because they are trying to hide the fact that they dickrode a dickrider who rode trump's dick, therefore they rode Trump's dick by proxy. This is not isolated incident, but lengthy sordid history of dick riding the capitalists they pretend to hate. They've been riding dick for decades and now they defend it, all the while crying about rich "blacks." They even dick ride a fascist baby killer with nazi tattoos and try to justify it.
>>2584747There is nothing funny about the state of things. The crackers are in control and they just dick ride nazis, and we are all fucked
>>2584725They don't though.
My homeboy from Trini hates Venezuela and Venezuelans because he claims they fucked up the island due to mass migration.
>>2584754It shouldn't require an 'anti imperialist voice' to tell you invading other countries is a bad thing, that should come instinctually, so either south Americans are just built different or they really do hate Venezuelans that much
>>2584750There is nothing revolutionary about jay z
>>2584763>invading other countries is a bad thingInvading Nazi germany wasnt a bad thing. If someone invaded Israel or the US it would be based too.
>that should come instinctuallyBut it doesnt, thats why an organized anti-imperialist left is important, imperialism and colonialism gets internalized. This is just a leftoid version of "muh human nature". As I said, the US owned MSM in latam has been manufacturing consent for years agaisnt Maduro.
>so either south Americans are just built different lol US americans are the ones who have been ok with their country bombing the entire world during decades but is the south americans who are "built different", got it.
>>2584763>It shouldn't require an 'anti imperialist voice' to tell you invading other countries is a bad thingWithout education people tend to be either reactionary, reformist, or indifferent. So yes, you do need "voices." Patriotism and national chauvinism often trump class consciousness, even outside of the most "powerful" and "developed" imperialist countries.
>>2584780this dude really just compared nazi germany to maduros venezuela
>>2584708Majority of Americans have no clue what state they are in half the time let alone a foreign country
>>2584793where is the 'peruvian patriotism' in supporting american imperialism in venezuela? lmao what
>>2584795>this dude really just compared nazi germany to maduros venezuelathat's not what that anon is saying, which would be evident if you finished reading their post :/
>>2584798>where is the 'peruvian patriotism' in supporting american imperialism in venezuela? lmao whatit was established earlier in the conversation that a lot of people in lat am, for some reason, see maduro as responsible for the venezuelan migration crisis, even though washington's sanctions caused that. so it seems a lack of education is a problem here. that is all I am saying.
>>2584654No no, Lenin said Imperial Russia was imperialist. He was crearly wrong.
>>2584801He said it was imperialist due to its gigantic military expenditure.
>>2584798They see Maduro's regime as a threat to Peru, so they support whoever will get rid off Maduro, is that clear enough for you?
Also "patriotism" is very often code for anti-communism.
>>2584806why is péru afraid of venezuela?
>>2584806>They see Maduro's regime as a threat to Perufor the simple reason of venezuelan immigration. the united states is getting venezuelan immigration too but I have yet to see a reason why they support this war less
>when you attack a foreign government for resources that creates a migrant crisis which makes foreign labor cheaper which builds up right wing populism which makes you attack a foreign government for resources
>>2584813>attack a foreign government for resourcesliterally the exact opposite of what sanctions are meant to achieve
>>2584817yes anon the desire to regime change venezeula is certainly not got anything to do with oil
>>2584818chevron was given a license to pump oil in venezuela not even six months ago. sanctions don't work
>>2584808Same way people were deluded into thinking Orange Pedo was going to make america great again.
>>2584809Why is the US afraid of China?
>>2584810Is not just "venezuelan immigration", is a crisis, it comes with crimes and culture shock that get weaponized by porky.
>but I have yet to see a reason why they support this war lessBecause in the case of the US your migration crisis isnt scapegoated all on Maduro. The people in latam who support regime change in Venezuela do it for the same reason US americans support ICE having concentration camps for browns. Is this really that hard to understand for you? I'm starting to think you are trolling me.
>>2584818maduro already gave them everything they could possibly want, at some point you need to recognize that US leadership wants actual blood running down the streets
>>2584824>Because in the case of the US your migration crisis isnt scapegoated all on Madurolol. Lmao.
>>2584825>maduro already gave them everything they could possibly wantSource?
>>2584824>Is not just "venezuelan immigration", is a crisisthere's no such thing as an immigration crisis. why do you have a problem with Venezuelan refugees?
>>2584829Where do you live?
>>2584825>he thinks america needs to extort to surviveno we're past that now, america needs to loot to survive now.
>>2584830no seriously tell me. why are Venezuelan refugees an issue?
>>2584825>maduro already gave them everything they could possibly want,if he had then neither he nor corina machado would be offering it to trump
>>2584838
Yep, i had a mexican friend who after watching nick fuentes became a self hating gay transgender furry nazi.
>>2584830stfu Kalshicel, DEATH TO ALL KALSHICELS
>>2584865>Supports Trump and AnarchyWE ACCELERATIONIST ARE RISING UP
>>2584832>why are Venezuelan refugees an issue?Did I ever say that? Did I ever said venezuelans refugees provoked the migrant crisis in latam (which according to you doesnt exist lol)? No, so fuck off with this putting-words-in-my-mouth dishonest bs. Saying there is no migrant crisis is the same as saying the US hasnt been fucking with the third world for decades, so kill yourself for sweeping for your genocidal empire while pretending to be in favor of its victims.
>>2584851I dont know what that means.
< Trump: If you go to Japan and South Korea and Malaysia, they have a very small car… Very small and really cute. You’re not allowed to build them and I have authorized the secretary to immediately approve the production of those cars.
Let him cook…
>>2584865Anarcho MAGAism?
>>2584894venezuelan immigrants are not a 'crisis' because they're overall a net positive to the communities they emigrate to. it's a made up thing to get mad about
this smells like regime change apologism
>>2584905literally nobody likes venezuelan refugees in latam bro its almost always annoying middle classers who got to escape from venezuela lmfao, 21st century gusanos
>>2584914weird, the venezuelans I meet in the US are all day laborers without ID's
>>2584918
Denial
>>2584916Are you kidding, Venezuelans are Cuban American tier
>>2584916in latam venezuelans get made fun of for selling crap in public transit and starting their speech by saying they used to be doctors or similar skilled workers in venezuela LOL
>>2584921bruh it seems like asking latams about venezuelans is like asking europeans about romani
>>2584922breaking news: football no longer proletarian sport
why is there a FIFA peace prize?
>>2584932They made up a prize fitting for a megalomaniac, chunky, completely in gold, hands grasping for the world.
In exchange Trump will rename soccer football and American football eggball
The art of the deal
Congratulations reichburger laborer. For such hard unpaid work in the cornfields you will be given 30 minutes of eggball viewing entertainment on your meta quest.
>>2584768"There is nothing revolutionary about Afrikan businessmen"
This is the line of a settler revisionist who wants to expropriate and genocide their subject who rises above, said by the very neocolonial oppressors and exploiters who ride platner dick, crying about Afrikan businessmen as the world burns. The Nazis also said there is nothing good about jewish businessmen, and labor zionists say the same about palestinian businessmen. They are wrong. The businessmen of the exploited are revolutionary in comparison to lowly, fervent, working dickriders of platner.
Afrikan business is crushed by imperialism and neocolonization. Afrikan people never flourish because Afrikan business cannot grow under neocolonial imperialism. The neocolonialists call our respectable Afrikan business men pigs, like theirs. They are wrong because the neocolonialists exploit Afrikan business, therefore every neocolonialists' attack on an Afrikan businessman is an attack on all of the Afrikan colony.
>>2584737Ironic. You call the Afrikan businessmen the pigs like working nazi call jewish businessmen vermin.
>>2584939The invited Fulnecky to make up for the guy with a hole in his necky
if only bible conservatives read the bible
>>2584928nobody complains about haitians, etc but everyone hates venezuelans :)
>>2584947A chunk do not care and even calling themselves cultural Christians to remove the "weakness" of the Bible and go full blown Nietzsche on their rants and about our future techno-feudalism. At the same time, Social gospelism is seeing a bit of a rise. A decade from now the landscape is going to look different
>>2584954I've mentioned it before but MAGA is essentially just reinventing Positive Christianity but with a nominally philiosemitic bend to it
>>2584947"jeesus would be le progressive"-tier jackassery. religion is all larp especially in this century
>>2584960He wouldn't but that's beside the point.
Not only was Jesus specifically telling his followers to not be part of the "world", which most political Christian opportunists are totally embroiled in and obsessed by but I'm pretty sure Jesus also told people that the rich are as likely to enter heaven as a camel is to enter through the eye of a needle. Also private ownership and the "authority of religious law" blah blah blah "who obsess over the law but have forgotten the heart of the law" when he called out the Pharisees and what not. Jesus was despised because he said the cruel laws of the old testament was simply a moral guideline and that those who obsessed over the laws were hypocrites who should think about their own wrongs first.
>>2584961you are seriously retarded if you think religion was as secularised before as it is today lol
>>2584960>especially in this centuryNever has there been a more likelier time for people to become genuinely spiritual, and not in a fake aesthetical "this fits my politics" kind of way than the past 5 years.
Every time there is a crisis in capitalism there is a massive wave of spiritualism. The hardships of Victorian London. The end of the First World War. The 60's had the charismatic Christians exploding in America and Western Europe. The 70's with its eastern mysticism, a counter culture to what was seen as old and tired western values. The 80's with new age religion, heightened by the increasingly extreme neoliberal economics that was destroying the fabric of communities, the lack of housing and employment, and the wider usage of happy drugs. Conventional or unconventional. It fits the Marxist view well because it opens up an escape to those who have been isolated and robbed of purpose in an increasingly proletarian world.
>>2584970>secularised Redcoat spotted
But no, it fluctuates each century especially post-renaissance. Arguably the latter half of the 20th century was way more secular than the following decades of the 21st century.
>>2584975>>2584977>being this purposely obtuse for epic internet debate pointsjfc this place is full of retards man how can you compare the pope being able to tell all believers what to do to today when shit runs more on vibes than ever before, just completely obfuscating how reality actually works
<It fits the Marxist view well because it opens up an escape to those who have been isolated and robbed of purpose in an increasingly proletarian world.>marxism/communism as therapyholy shit amerilards are bleak
>>2584987The pope has never been able to tell all believers what to do. Not fully. You should read a book about the papacy.
>>2584990You say this like the Nobel Peace prize is any less worthless and tacky.
>>2584992Yeah but that prize existed last week
>>2584997Did he? Did you not read Engels?
>>2585003
>retrain the younger generations
lol what kids are being taught by non-denominational crackpots anymore?
cultural marxist victory
>>2584914I've been told it's a lot of gang bangers, so I could see lumpen boug rolling up on a boat with their crew and posting up
>>2585005probably depends on where you are on latam, if you're on the US, or mexico even, you're going to get the petty bourgeoisie (and the handful of venezuelan people i've met are literally all business owners), if you're in colombia you're probably going to get the lumpen refugees and immigrants. how far a migrant travels away from their country of origin seems rather in relation to their means. that being said the fact that there's not a single cohesive view of what venezuelan immigrants are supposed to be like other than saying "chamo" a lot, makes me go hmmmm
>>2585008A Venezuelan version of Edward Limonov would be interesting
>>2585011Genuinely feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Seriously what about that food is disgusting? Like I can get people who'd get wigged out by something like Sushi 'cause it's raw fish, but this is literally just meat, rice, and beans. It's the most simple and straightforward kind of cooking there is.
Like what the fuck am I missing here? Any anons here tried Somalian food? Is there some really pungent kind of spice or sauce they use?
>>2584987>how can you compare the pope being able to tell all believers Ironic you are calling people retarded if you are saying this lmao
>>2584980
thats a lot of beans
what is this fat orange greasy fuck or rather his investors waiting for?
if Venezuela is so weak, why don't they just start their special anti-narco operation?
>>2584801I don't appreciate your sarcasm, Mister 😒
>>2584980
It looks really tasty, Somalian food (and East African in general) is so good.
>>2584448Nah it’s still an important concept even if it’s continuously misused.
We don’t need more word filters, we need more active moderation. Just ban the third worldists on sight.
>>2584975Opium gets more popular in crises, yes
>>2585041Because they constantly derail threads, argue in bad faith, and exist mostly to demoralize and harass other left wingers.
Like people can have disagreements and discuss them like adults. Engaging with third worldists doesn’t work because they’ll constantly declare that unless you agree with them 100% you’re actually a fascist. They’re more emotional than someone with BPD. And if you bring up a counter point they just talk past it.
Like you fundamentally can’t engage with someone that irrational anymore than you can engage with someone who, for example, denies the Holocaust. Cause no amount of evidence will change their mind and they won’t ever engage in good faith.
>>2584737Kilmar abrego was a capitalist. Is he a "piggy?" He lies in imperialist jail and his property is now in the hands of settlers.
>>2585041Because he's a chauvinist who dislikes being called out on his vast ignorance and open revisionism
>>2585049Yeah but youre the dumbass posting marvel comics and talking about food. Your party dick rides fascists and you defend them.
That is not derailing, but vivid description of principal contradiction we face. You admit you cannot engage (because this level of dickriding is unjustifiable under any pretext) so just take the dick outta your ass. You speak of counterpoints but your party dick rides platner
>>2585049Literally unprompted and without anyone asking you just started personalizing, antagonizing and even diagnosing people you have never met in your life. Something that obviously anyone interested in arguing in good faith would immediately do.
>>2585058You guys come in groups, eh?
>>2585060They cannot help themselves the second they get challenged.
>>2585063^ See? They immediately jump to playground dickswinging
>>2585060“Oh it’s so unprompted!”
Stop being a fucking baby, I’ve got immense patience that you types used up, you’ve been doing nonsense accusations since day 1. You act like you deserve some level of good faith or respect that you’ve done less than nothing to earn.
There are plenty of people on here who disagree with me and we can settle it like adults. Third worldists immediately resort to acting like children. Hence they should just be banned on sight.
>>2585068CPUSAnon literally started by requesting every "third worldists" (made-up group of people that are just a blatant stand in for anyone who criticizes or challenges CPUSAnon) to be banned
reject (imperialism), insult with slur ("third-worldist"), and change the subject (to marvel)
>>2585071Yeah, and I agree with him, because you act like teenage trolls, and the play the victim when you get any pushback.
We’re not amnesiacs, we remember all the other times you folks start pointless fights on here in bad faith.
>>2585071>Nothing ever happens beyond the present momentUnless this is your first day on here you’ve been posting nonsense for well over a year. You’ve made your attitudes known and created the justification for your being banned.
>>2585074>because you act like teenage trollsYou guys can't even address this post at the beginning of the thread
>>2584629, you just started launching insults, everyone can see that, the thread was fine until you guys arrived. You don't get to speak unless you apologize for your Lovestonite-Bernsteinian party of open collaboration, revisionism, historically hostile to the comintern and its championing of black cuases, american exceptionalism, and generally averse to transformative action.
>>2584822the sanctions are against state owned enterprises in venezuela. the sanctions are meant to make the government collapse, and accelerate privatization and foreign direct investment.
>>2585078See? You’re proving my point for me.
You’re acting like a victim, as if your behavior in past threads hasn’t built up bad blood on here, and then you bring in a bunch of irrelevant beefs.
This isn’t about being a fucking revisionist or whatever, it’s not about apologizing for imperialism, it’s about the fact that folks on this board are tired of your behavior.
>>2585067honestly you could run that clip on loop in red states and he'd get 0 electoral votes
>>2585077Nah you fuck off conversations whenever you start getting running out of made-up Lenin quotes, and when you run out of arguments you immediately resort to petty insults and you have gotten so mad to the point of wishing violence against whoever is arguing against you. You generally lower the level of conversation whenever you show up. I'd say people should filter your name and ignore you but you seem to even have a small pose of sycophants (literal stormfront behavior btw) so it's impossible to ignore you. This is just all classic wrecker behavior.
>>2585083You are projecting.
>>2585083>”You get so mad you wish violence against those against you!”Projection and another lie like the making up Lenin quote bit.
Again, third worldists should be banned on sight and it’d actually improve the quality of discussion here.
>>2585084>You are projecting.whoa you dumbasses even speak like each other, do you have any original though-terminating canned responses, or is that the fullest extent of your wit
I filter on nametards on sight, they all have the most retarded takes imaginable and have a humiliation fetish.
>>2585085>He has a real job. Which he hates, you can tell coming here and antagonizing people is the only small bit of joy he gets at his day job at Krogers or whatever
>>2585078You make up shit, take insane constrain positions(like Jay-Z was right that white people invented the word capitalism to keep rich black people down and Catboy nick is anti-imperialist) and are so hyperbolic about everything. Also you add nothing to any discussion, king Lear has more positive and thought out solutions than you do. You say Americans are incapable of revolution but the only solution is revolution which we can’t do. So you have no solution than to other shit up the board accusing everyone of being a fascist while siding with fascist because CPUSAanon doesn’t like them. Like I’ve seen you twist yourself into positions you don’t believe in just so you can oppose CPUSanon on them.
>>2585088 See? You’re doubling down and trying to act like everybody who’s tired of your attitude is some kind of NPC.
Now are you gonna respond with
>REEEEEEEE YOU ARE REVISIONIST SOCIAL FASCIST IF YOU THINK I’M ACTING LIKE AN ASSHOLEor are you going to read what is addressed to you without yelling at people in your head?
>>2585091
These weirdo iron penis posts also start to show up whenever CPUSAnon shows up, very sus!
>>2585092>take insane constrain positions(like Jay-Z was right that white people invented the word capitalism to keep rich black people down and Catboy nick is anti-imperialist) What in the ever loving fuck are you talking about holy shit
>>2585094I strongly suspect Felix comes from the ThingNoticer school of obsessive parasocial hatred
the American century of humiliation is continuing at full speed
I want off
>>2585097I’ve seen a different TWist on here say that, so yeah, that did happen
>>2585100>I’ve seen a different TWist on here say thatYou should really stop personalizing posts online so much, it's literally fucking with your mind.
>>2585091
>”you use violent rhetoric whenever things don’t go your way!”
Just a friendly reminder to keep hand sanitizer nearby when interacting with the Metal Masturbator.
>>2585098It's fine to post a lot or whatever, but we have literal lolcows milking each other and driving each other insane, it's mental.
Dick ride this! *grabs iron penis*
>>2585113>vidI require context
>>2584980
>"kek"
we always know it's 4pol when they post some reactionary /isg/ culture war slop from shitter with no additional commentary
>>2584980Ethiopian food is good though
>>2585131true
>>2585126makeup resiliency ad
>>2585119
He was literally bitching that I supposedly demand violence when things don't go my way.
>>2585141copper benis is your creation, your jungian shadow, so in a way it's violence against yourself and it doesn't count, or it does count but only in a hegelian way
>>2585020Beans are good for you. Frequent legume consumption correlates with longevity and lower rates of GI tract cancers
>>2585148you dont need to tell me, i'm a certified bean lover
>>2585151Kulinski is wrong. That is not enough beans.
>>2585145Trust me, I've left this site for a few weeks and he apparently still didn't stop his nonsense.
>>2585075Huh, guess its an acquired taste even in Somalian communities.
>>2585151i guess you could say she's…
houngry
>>2585154>Trust me, I've left this site for a few weeks and he apparently still didn't stop his nonsense.That's because you're paranoid and think anyone who is mildly critical of CPUSA is part of a secret third worldist cabal. The real netherite dildo really only shows up with you.
>>2585105Brezhnev deserved all those medals THOUGH
>>2585135rightoids have no idea what Africa looks like, their frame of reference is The Lion King and pictures of mud huts
>>2585143the average American really can't grasp just how fucking big Africa is
albeit most of the 2D maps shrink it (probably on purpose)
>>2585159>The real netherite dildo really only shows up with you.nah cpusanon left for a few weeks and metallic male-name was on here gloating daily that he had finally driven cpusanon to suicide
>>2585165the fact that he had to put it on himself is so embarrassing
could he not at least get one of his lapdogs to do it? if you're gonna fake it at least go all out, give some faux prestige to it
>>2585166>most of the 2D maps shrink it (probably on purpose)it has to do with projection. Most projections tend to stretch out the polar regions, making the equatorial regions look smaller by comparison. You can use the true size website to compare locations:
https://thetruesize.com/Africa can fit the USA, India, and China inside of it, EZ.
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>>2585165the old geezer has a band aid on his hand
>>2585176he has had band-aids on for months, he's covering up bruises and needle holes
>>2584947I think they only use the parts in the kings English to justify themselves. I noticed the A1 apostles were trying to use vagaries to remove the humanity of Jesus and replace it with divine A1. The man who had 'nowhere to lay his head' was already replaced by a mythical superman, so the shift to worshipping the god of the machine is the final part of the plan to replace us all. My goal is to 'educate' the A1 by various means.
ᎥᏝ ᎩᎶ ᎠᏥᏅᏏᏓᏍᏗ ᏰᎵ ᎠᏂᏔᎵ ᎬᏩᏅᏏᏙᎯ ᎪᎱᏍᏗ ᏱᏙᎬᏛᏂᏏ; ᏱᎠᏍᎦᎦᏰᏃ ᏌᏉ ᏱᎤᎨᏳᎭᏃ ᏐᎢ; ᏱᏙᎤᏂᏴᏆᎴ ᏌᏉ ᏱᎦᏂᏆᏘᎭᏃ ᏐᎢ. ᏝᏍᎩᏂ ᏰᎵ ᎤᏁᎳᏅᎯ ᎠᎴ ᎹᎹᏂ ᎪᎱᏍᏗ ᏱᏙᎨᏣᏛᏂᏏ.
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>>2585185Well of course. The 15th century introduced the concept of protestant Caesaropapism. That social and religious power could be intertwined by a christian monarch. This was instrumental in seizing church property which at the time made up a sizeable amount of agricultural land. It accelerated the death of feudalism and the need for colonialism.
>>2585187The west can't go backwards on this btw. The power they've given to the markets stabilised western economies, but also meant of course that the market is the fundamental law of the land and no executive power can truly fight against it. If it was more profitable to import coal/oil etc. than purchase it domestically, that was the way it had to be. If labour was cheaper to be used overseas than domestically for the production of certain commodities, that was the way. They could never "return" to that under the current mode of production, even though some right wing populists want to win the working class over with lies that they will. Remember when Trump said he'd reactivate the rust belt?
>>2585191Well said. It's still going on, ideological colonization in service to materialism.
>>2585187why did I have to spend the majority of my life in the american century of humiliation
can we just skip to the part where we give up our imperial holdings and then use our remaining ill-gotten gains to scrap together a social democracy
>>2585186
>[The man who was stabbed], meanwhile, has been arrested several times in recent years and was convicted of felony rape of a child in Washington’s Kitsap County in 1997, records show. He couldn’t be reached for comment.
Curious.
I feel bad for the /pol/tard he's not getting as many bites as he hoped
>>2585176>>2585177I bet he's basically kept alive through potent pharmacotherapy.
>>2585213
strangely romantic
>>2585215right? i deleted my post because of a minor spelling mistake but yeah cpusanon and the mineral male genitalia are meant for each other
>>2585187And america will eat similar shit in LATAM
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>>2585214100%, he's been suffering from all sorts of health problems that he's really bad at covering up
eventually he'll reach the end of his rope, how soon is impossible to say, there's been plenty of evil fuckers who lived way too long
>>2585229>SUV tards buying the BASED TRUMP KEI CAR because Trump said they're cool, American and competing against the Chinese who will never drive onestrangely progressive
>>2585230NUMTOT - New Urbanist Memes for Transit-Oriented Trumps
>>2585229lit-tle itt-sy bit-tsy baby teeny tiny cars, folks they're so cute aren't they? So Tiny they're HUGE. Many people are saying this!
>>2585229tiny cars are step one. step two is getting people to use public transit
I've been hearing about the BIKES. You ever hear about this? The BICYCLES. People are riding them, and you know what? I hear they're rrrreally good for you I mean REALLY good. So we've got some people looking into bicycles and we're gonna see if we can get more people on those things.
>>2585204
>Do you believe the guy who stabbed him knew that before?
no, and neither did derek chauvin know about george floyd's arrest record. welcome to the other side of the fence, chuddy
>>2585229What's actually the max driver height for these things? I'm 6'2.
>>2585239Yeah I know. I'm not a disciple of Marx, either. Just a nobody in a thread about the death of the usa on a Marxist site so I'm no threat.
People are telling me great things about high-speed rail. You hear about this? We used to build big beautiful trains in this country but then they came up with something called interstate highways, very bad, not good folks, destroyed our beautiful clean air. So we're gonna bring back trains in a big way and they're gonna be big beautiful and strong, and very fast.
>>2585247In this case it's not because America wants to stop its unsustainable car production. It's because America cannot keep continuing its unsustainable car production. It's dependency on cheap imports is ironically slowly killing its ability for consumers to consume.
>>2585249I guess I'm just wondering if, by materialism, you mean the colloquial way people use it, like "caring about money and cars and sex" or if you mean it in the philosophical way, as in, matter and energy actually exist, and aren't just illusions in a simulation created by God or aliens or your soul or whatever.
>>2585247Did not intend to reply to that post.
>>2585237>>2585250Bahaha
>>2585255Yes, in the colloquial way. I started with the humanity of Jesus, flesh and blood. This humanity is in the hypostatic union as professed in the Creed. The consumerists don't seem to believe in this human existence, hence the mythological superman.
The middle east imperialist chapter is over for now. Welcome to the new and improved latin american imperialist chapter.
>>2585229the big 3 sold big cars because it was more profitable and there was a loophole which allowed light trucks to be less fuel efficient, which companies realized they could classify as SUVs. light trucks often end up cheaper to build per dollar of selling price than small cars because of simpler transmissions, less aerodynamic shapes, older engine designs, less complex emission controls, less electronics to improve mpg, fewer weight saving materials (advance steel) etc. low gas prices were also convinent for consumers as their taste shifted towars larger, taller vehicles. trump recently lowered the emissions standards for light duty vehicles even further, making the relative advantage for light trucks greater than before.
I heard in CHINAH they got this thing called PEDESTRIANISATION. Would you believe it? Cities where you can WALK AROUND. People want more interstates I say that's a democrat hoax, ok? Democrat hoax okay next question.
>>2585286
>>2585284
For me, it's less about respect for Paul (because fuck him) and more about how this shows a crack in the feasibility of any possible plan for venezuelan intervention. They're all so completely retarded they can't get anything off the ground and they've been trying for entire year at this point.
>>2585284
that's lame, you don't need to give him respect
>>2585294
>NATO slips further into irrelevancy
Pretty sure that part is intentional. Idk what conservative or liberal are supposed to mean anymore but the cons used to pretend to care about the Constitution the way libs pretended to care about the people. They each failed both.
>>2585290>zionists hate americastop trying to make me like zionists, it's not going to work
>>2585244I think an intel op implies a level of planning that isn’t really there.
Trump’s a highly suggestible retard. He doesn’t have ideals. He became President to appear on TV. I 100% guarantee that it was less an op and more them jingling keys in front of his face: “Oh Mr President, you’ll be so strong and handsome if you bomb Venezuela.”
>>2585309
You seem to think Nazis and Libertarians are left wingers, which pretty much goes to show how anti-Marxist your politics are.
>>2585313
You’re consistently praising Nick Fuentes—who insists America should be an Empire that denies women the right to vote and treats foreigners and Jews as subhuman—and Ron Paul, there’s not a single right winger you dislike.
The fact is you see fascists as more your Allies and fast friends than communists. You despise communists and you despise anarchists and social democrats and any other variant of leftists, but you see a Nazi and you slobber over them as “the real leftists”
>>2585318
>I have never praised Nick Fuentes, I have (correctly) pointed out that even he is to the left of "C"PUSA on substantive issues. He consistently opposes war while the "C"PUSA supports every war that the blue team launches, including a literal genocide in Gaza.
See? You defend Fascists as anti-war while calling communists war mongers. You’re a fascist.
>You also think America should be an empire, the only difference is who you think should benefit from it. Even then, you're not far off Fuentes, who is an "America firster" just like the "C"PUSA.
See, you accuse Communists of being imperialists or trying to create some “red empire” like the neocons and Trotskyists you ideologically descend from.
>I do not despise Communists. You are simply not a Communist, you never have been and you never will be. Just because your insane far-rightist party calls itself Communist (while simultaneously advocating for class collaborationism, which is the literal definition of fascism) does not mean it is. Your party has not been Communist since Foster lost the power struggle to Browder, and it has strayed so far into revisionism that even Browder would be considered a radical and extremist by the standards of today's "C"PUSA.
And there you go defending Browder. We kicked him from the party after his temporarily dissolving it. You’re a fascist just cynically using the “communist” label like the Nazis used “Socialism”
>>2585318
Spic fuentes support invasion on venezuela, the only he dislikes israel i'ts because of idpol
>>2585321Firstly no need for that slur.
Secondly: Felix supports him while trying to rally against Communists who oppose the war for supposedly being “not pure enough”. He makes common cause with Fascists against Socialists.
>>2585318
Groyper detected
>>2585325
>I don't understand why this is so difficult for you to grasp. You are an imperialist in an imperialist party who wants to use imperialism as a tool to benefit the American Volk explicitly at the expense of everyone else alive. You fully understand what imperialism is, what it does and why it's so harmful, and you still support using it to build up the American homeland.
Actually I oppose America’s intervention overseas and think NATO should be dissolved, but curiously you love Fascists who think the problem is NATO isn’t killing enough brown people. You actively support Trump and think opposition to him is bad.
>And "C"PUSA supported the genocide in Gaza to such an extent that they gave tangible, material support to both of the politicians who were primarily responsible for it.
You’re supporting the guy currently murdering Venezuelan fishermen and saying any party opposed to that is bad. You’re giving tangible, material support to Nazis and then crying everyone else is an imperialist.
>>2585325
>volk
Factory status?
>>2585333>>2585309>>2585312>>2585313>>2585315>>2585318>>2585320>>2585325>>2585330The 🇸🇪🇽🇺🇦🇱 🇹🇪🇳🇸🇮🇴🇳 is outta control
>>2585312you took the bait hard lol
>>2585338Did anyone save that steamy fanfiction that was posted?
>>2585334
shut the fuck up and get out there and do the revolution retard. Stop being a pussy and revolutionize the shit! Go!
Any "revolutionary" communist who comes in here to post is trolling and posting instead of doing le anti-imperialism. If you're a TWister and you're here posting, you're a faggot and should kill yourself unless you log the fuck off and go do the revolution
>>2585294
the us is bombing somalia? what's going on??
>>2585334>You think a lot of things. What you DO is provide tangible, material support to an imperialist party You’re the one here saying Fuentes and Paul and Trump are anti imperialists.
>You do not want to end imperialism, you have no desire for a revolution either now or in the futureYou actively sabotage revolution by trying to funnel people towards fascists instead of socialists
>Firstly, I do not support Trump. I did not vote for him, nor would I ever. I think Trump should be hanged right next to you.You provide cover to him and his cronies by calling them “true leftists” while calling actual socialists imperialists. You actively try to sabotage attempts at getting him legally kept from power. You’re materially a Trump supporter.
>Meanwhile, "C"PUSA's endorsed candidates killed more people in single attacks than Trump has with the fishing boats in Venezuela.See? “Trump isn’t even killing that many people! He’s the peace president!” As he murders innocent Venezuelans and arms Israel.
>>2585339I’m shitposting at work and turning Felix’s own rhetoric on him, I’m having fun
>>2585347you're arguing with a literal mental invalid for fun lol
>>2584401blud really thinks he's gonna become general secretary and mint these lmfao
>>2585348Between setting a schizo into a doom spiral to watch him rage or dealing with a person who wants to “goats milk without the milk” (true story!) which would you find more entertaining?
>>2585354
farming (you)s forever
>>2585075why are americans so scared of sesame oil? i just had it for the first time some months ago and it tastes… like sesame seeds lol
>>2585356the goat milk story would be preferred at this point. I'm bored of conductive feinstein posts
>>2585360Oh okay then. I misspoke, it wasn’t “goats milk without milk” it was “goat cheese without goat milk”, I kept trying to explain cheese is made from milk and they kept saying “I don’t like milk though” and swearing that they’ve had goats cheese that doesn’t use milk.
I showed them vegan cheese alternatives but they insisted they wanted goats cheese.
>>2585362seems you're getting trolled everywhere you turn lol
>>2585363I got to bait a dumbass, I’d hardly consider that being trolled unless were unironically doing the “I was just pretending to be retarded” thing
>>2585368Where is the red army
why is 90% of this thread arguing with a nametard
>>2585371american cultural and collective unconscious narcissism or some shit idk
>>2585359Some people hate the texture of beans or anything overly mushy like bananas.
>>2585362Wouldn't surprise me it there was some very niche vegan goat cheese replacement that mimicked the distinct taste and he just didn't know what he was looking for.
>>2585359>why are americans so scared of sesame oil?I cook with sesame oil all the time. especially with asian dishes. you just gotta be careful not to overdo it because it can overpower the other flavors in a dish
>>2585075I've made beans with sesame oil recently. Though it was more than one kind of bean, and it was lots of veggies with it, and also rice, and very little sesame oil, and a ton of other spices like sazon, cumin, paprika, tumeric, black pepper, red pepper
>>2585051>Trump wants South America buying American-made goods instead of Chinese-made goods.forcing people to buy shit they don't want unironically sounds even harder than forcing people to make shit.
>>2585388I love how romantic and tender they are
>>2585386It’s also pretty absurd, I don’t think we produce enough nor a large enough variety to meet demand, let alone cheap enough. Like it’d just make more sense to go full looter and demand tribute—which I think is basically what Trump wants to do but he still is trying to put up a paper thin mask of economism behind it.
>>2585397>more sense for america to go full looterWhich is
also not going to work. There's literally nothing america can do anymore and it's really cool to see. No one trusts us anymore, no one will take the bait, no one will give us anything for free. We're fucked until we can actually become a country that does normal country things, and that won't happen until we get an entirely new constitution because this fucking thing sucks ASS lol.
Our constitution is so fucking bad, that it's actually
the most anti-imperialist thing working in the world today. It hinders everything we want to do, good or bad. Until one day we actually do finally break down and swap it out in like 30 years minimum.
>>2585398adding to this: the only solution is for the left to develop not only a strong parallel institution, we'll have to develop a parallel
constitution because there's simply no way to fix this 250 year old piece of shit
>>2585398The only thing that concerns me is that under current circumstances a new constitution is more likely to be even more reactionary than progressive.
Undoubtedly we need a new constitution, though for it to be progressive we’d basically need a revolution beforehand.
>>2585405I mean yeah obviously but it's also one of those things that's like the opposite of a paradox: it's only possible when things are less reactionary anyways.
America will become less reactionary out of pure necessity.
>we’d basically need a revolution beforehand.I don't buy this kind of thinking necessarily. Like, in a way I agree, but only in that what I'm talking about would take 20 years anyways. And "revolution" is such a vague term. I think you can just have decades of struggle and when you look back, it's basically a revolution, but without the whole "total war" part.
>>2585401Something I’ve thought of is kind of adapting Mao’s “mass line”. Develop a creative project that’s kind of intended to be nationwide and link people together, make them develop
for themselves a constitution that
they want to be governed by. It’d get people thinking politics beyond the supermarket of ideologies or the spectacle of elections.
>>2585409Luna Oi's somewhat recent video on the Vietnamese structure of their government is just amazing. If everyone realized that they wanted something similar to that, this would be a lot easier.
>>2585410the USA will hobble along for another 50 years or so, it'll just always be too weak and scatterbrained to anything crazy anymore.
>>2585412>the USA will hobble along for another 50 yearsIt would be lucky to survive the next few months.
>it'll just always be too weak and scatterbrained to anything crazy anymore.You have that twisted. It’s too weak and scatteredbrained to be anything but crazy anymore. A state of being that has greatly shortened whatever lifespan it had left.
>>2585413>It would be lucky to survive the next few months.I'm gonna guess you don't live here and leave it at that
>>2585414You guessed wrong, very wrong.
>>2585416so you're mentally ill?
>>2585417
you overestimate America. You also assume "great man theory" as well as the illusion of free will in general. Mine and your opinions barely matter in the face of 8 billion people.
Anyways, get out there and do the revolution. Hurry up!
>>2585412>it'll just always be too weak and scatterbrained to anything crazy anymore.What's the point of having a giant military if you don't use it? There are plenty of smaller countries to invade and steal resources from. When you only have a hammer everything is a nail.
>>2585413>It would be lucky to survive the next few months.What's your reasoning? There are no strong independence movements in the US or real civil war conditions. At least not yet. I can see things getting worse within a few years but not months.
>>2585417
>can't sit and do nothing
>must do revolution to save humanity
>posting on leftypol
>>2585418What a strange escalation in terms of questions you have created here. No, I am not. But you yourself are coming as oddly aggressive with your words.
>>2585419>you overestimate AmericaYou are the one who said it will somehow last 50 more years.
>>2585420>There are no strong independence movements in the US or real civil war conditionsNot just yet.
>At least not yet. I can see things getting worse within a few years but not months.Then you haven’t paid to the news cycle these past few months. Things have already gotten worse in just a few months. And they will continue to do so until a breaking point is reached.
>>2585423
yeah people do, 8 billion people. Together. Collectively. You know… communally. You think you're smarter than everyone else? You think you have your finger on the pulse more than 8 billion people and their collective intuition about what is most important at any given moment?
>>2585427…Do you even live in the same economy as me? The decay grows at an accelerated rate.
>>2585429
go on now, get out there and do the revolution. Why are you posting on leftypol when you could be revolutionizing?
>>2585431>literally catastrophizing, a cognitive distortion caused by generalizing your own experiences to the entire world and hoping for a collapse to free you, which will never happenI know it sucks and you want the world to collapse so that you'll have meaning, but what's actually going to happen is things will suck ass for another 2 to 5 decades with no real critical moment. You're not going to get to have your battle, no glory, none of that. You'll just be poor for a long time because you were born here, just like all the other people throughout history were poor because they were born there.
>>2585436Is this a direct rape threat? lmao
>>2585433So that’s a no then. You do not live in the nvidia propped up economy that had heavily ravaged by decades of corruption, and is now being butchered to pieces by the shenanigans of the current administration.
>>2585440keep waiting for the collapse and revolution that is
definitely totally coming and not focus on actual things you can do to make your own specific and personal life better. It's fine, I've 100% actually been there. And guess what? It never happens. It never will. Everyone else out in the same town you live in, if you were to actually go and express this view, would try to talk you down and get you to be rational and make normal rational steps to keep going, just like I am.
But instead, you could just keep hoping for that eschatological prediction of yours. You
want it to be true. You
want the catharsis of collapse. But it's not coming. You just need to be normal and stop like "reading theory" or whatever you do. It's ok. Just live a normal life. Move somewhere if you have to. It's tough, of course. It's fucked up, even. But you have to snap out of it. It's ok to just… live. Be selfish for now. If a revolution happens, then happy day! What a windfall for you! But chances are… if it doesn't happen… what will you do then?
>Then you haven’t paid to the news cycle these past few months. Things have already gotten worse in just a few months.
They gave ICE billions for a reason. Civil war energies from a decaying economy will diverted for a few years at least. Years of Lead will happen for sure though.
>>2585445You’re trying too hard
This website feels like babysitting mental patients in the psych ward most of the time.
Mhm! Oh yeah collapse is definitely coming babe! Of course, bud, anyways here's your apple juice and grippy socks. Remember lights out at 9pm everyone!
Things have to get catastrophically bad or Trump has to start jailing or killing Democratic politicians before the idea of a civil war is even considered. Economic crashes have happened before in the US and then the average proles life in the US still wasn't shitty enough to make a civil war justifiable in their minds and if this AI bubble collapses the average prole would still probably have a higher standard of living, than, say a prole living in Central Africa. Like
>>2585446 said an American years of lead is way more probable than a full on civil conflict. Think about most countries that collapsed into a civil conflict and most either had foreign intelligence agencies backing them or they had just come off multiple social and economic disasters like the Russian Empire getting ravaged during WW1 and suffering an economic collapse.
>>2585450Yeah it'll just suck dick for a long time but it won't be cool or fun like a civil war. We don't deserve anything badass like that.
>>2585451>>2585450Cease the doomer cope.
>>2585452America isn't the only country in the world. Other places are awesome and it rules to live there, vietnam and china for example.
Right now, for the USA, it's the point in history where it just kind of sucks ass to be here for a while. Eventually it'll get better. But for now it's shit. That's not a doomer thing to think. It's actually kind of optimistic in a way. But it's most importantly: acceptance.
Also, we'll do like… more DSA stuff and social democracy and get to have fun with that whole thing. So that's nice :)
>>2585435
need fuentes' clip
>>2585457that's all we get! We don't get communism or a based revolution or whatever. We're not allowed. All we get is the DSA and milquetoast reforms. I'm ok with that. The global south will get communism. They deserve that. We don't get it though.
>>2585462>All we get is the DSA and milquetoast reformsBirthright citizenship is about to end. You need to be admitted into a psychiatric ward.
>>2585469Padded cell, straitjacket, a muzzle, the works. Absolutely.
>>2585465
thanks anon
trump deporting iranian christian refugees and afghan collaborators and now this. it hasn't been a good season for MENA gusanos
>>2585467it's going to MAYBE be heard at the supreme court, with birthright citizenship highly likely to remain in place.
America sucks fucking shit
right now but it isn't going to have a revolution. We don't deserve anything that cool. It'll just be the same level of shitty here until 2 or 3 decades from now, the rest of the world forces us to get in line.
>>2585482You are a fascist. Everything you say is wrong. Once the dick riders are dealt with, revolution is imminent.
>>2585483mmm nah I think actually I'm correct
>>2585483also get out there and do the fucking revolution you fuuuucking faggot I keep saying this. You're posting on leftypol. Why aren't you doing the revolution?
>>2585435don't pay much attention to /isg/ influence opportunists but how did this gay catboi kid go from being a lolcow to having a following in the first place? Was it after the speedball three-way with Kenya West and the blond Jew?
>>2585436Ah, so he's still a lolcow among lolcows. I guess twatter succeeded in becoming the new 4chin and kiwifarms in one, only years after every stale meme's 'best if used by' date. I can't wait for 2015 to officially be over.
>>2585487>I can't wait for 2015 to officially be over.I'm still waiting for 2001 to over. Some grya hairs are waiting for 1971 to be over (that's about when the graphs go wonky).
>>2585489Could also be manufactured drama to remain relevant like their maga cult leader's always done. I guess conflict is inevitable among attention whores but it's still their bread and butter.
>>2585490I can barely remember either '21 or '71. They must've happened during some of my blackouts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G2-FPlvY58>>2585496It’s especially stupid because I’m pretty sure a significant portion of “white” people in the U.S. have some black ancestry, but beyond that just about every cultural achievement we’ve had has been either heavily influenced by or straight up the product of Black people.
>>2585486>>2585485You are imperialist who is afraid of the imminent revolution. You know the revolution is already sweeping the world and it threatens your treats. You delude yourself, in contradiction with past decade of amerikan sociopolitical development, hoping for twenty or thirty more years of higher, more stable dick riding because you know your end is nigh
>>2585500says the fascist posting on leftypol instead of doing the revolution
>>2585499Afrikans built this entire goddamn country. The fascist settler
>>2585443 says nothing but lies
>>2585462>All we get is the DSA and milquetoast reforms. This is insanely optimistic. OBBBA just cut a trillion in welfare while increasing immigration enforcement (aka secret police) budget by hundreds of billions. American workers will be crushed like never before.
>>2585443Firstly that a black person may hold the same prejudices as a white person is no special condemnation of black people in general. People are people, flaws in all, that you deride them for the “chip on their shoulder” over their very real history of being beaten down and enslaved is reactionary on your part.
>Wasting time defending the negros doesn't help the cause of socialism. If only drives people away if socialism seems to be overly concerned with race.You betray a far greater concern for race than most socialists I’d say.
>>2585503The simple reality is that it’s about as absurd a prejudice to condemn Black Americans as it was for Europeans to condemn Jews. When any group of people play so significant a role in your own history then you can’t “remove” them without in turn striking yourself—not to mention the concept of “removing” a people itself being reactionary
>>2585499Honestly I’m an American nationalist and believe communism is the best way forward to secure the American races interest. But most Americans believe they are of a different race. All these dumbasses believe in Europa memes and not seeing our unique heritage. We are the highway of humanity, the very slush that turns world. We do capitalism, and communism better then anyone else. If only Americans would stop being pigs, and race traitors to the streets old world. We should be invading Europe with Venezuelas to bring global communism not invading them.
>>2585512The great thing about being American is that anyone can be an American, there’s no American “race”
>>2585514Exactly, being an American is being an eternal foreigner. Just a semblance of a home that you fight for. We have to put in the work in building that home.
>>2585478Sad thing is the guy was probably an Assad supporter
>>2585436Saw Fuentes call Tucker Carlson a fake-ass bitch and a handler. I'm reading this history of fascism and this whole thing reminds me of Hungary in the 1930s when the Horthy regime tried this combination of repression and cooptation and exploitation of more radical right-wing forces at odds with them.
Tricky Tucker is like "c'mon Nick, let's chat and tee hee HEEEEEE I don't know ~anything~ and BTW lemme tell you a secret and…" and that's how they've been trying to get Fuentes inside the tent so he'll piss outside of it than be outside the tent pissing in. I guess it didn't work and now Milo is saying "I'm gonna leak the gay sex tape." The right is so Machiavellian.
>>2585514Wrong. Amerikkka is supremely racist and all but the caucoids are endo-colonized.
>>2585534Every nation colonizes it's own citizens. All cultures and languages are forced on populations from birth onward. It's a pointless complaint.
>>2585548>Every nation colonizes it's own citizens. All cultures and languages are forced on populations from birth onward. It's a pointless complaint.I don't entirely agree with what you're saying, because colonization is a process which is externally imposed by a conquering group onto a conquered group…
but I do understand where you're coming from, in the sense that all nations are political entities which impose the will of a ruling class. What you're saying actually reminds me of something I read once:
>Soon after the disparate states of the Italian peninsula unified in the 1860s to create a single nation, the nationalist Massimo D’Azeglio is said to have remarked, “We have made Italy, now we have to make Italians.”We sort of take the idea of a nation for granted now, kind of forgetting that the modern bourgeois nation state, as a particular form of political entity, is a historical product of the Treaty of Westphalia, and not at all the same as the "nations" which existed in antiquity. When Italian nationalism started up, Italy had dozens of sub-nationalities speaking non-standardized Italian dialects that were often mutually exclusive. Some of those went extinct because of the bourgeois
nationalist project of standardizing Italian. There are elements of
internal colonization in the very process of bourgeois nationalization, but not
everybody gets "colonized" equally in this process. Some people watch their cultures, communities, and languages go extinct, while others have their culture, community, and languages become
the national standard that everyone else is held to.
>>2585443
Even if that were true, whites are overwhelmingly petite bourgeois, labor aristocrat, oxycontin addicted, class traitors, but I still think it’s possible for Euro/anglo descendents to turn a corner.
>>2585558
Tailism
>>2585554>I don't entirely agree with what you're sayingYeah cause you aint a communist lmao. Keep sucking nationalist dick.
>>2585445> Be selfish for now. If a revolution happens, then happy day! What a windfall for you! But chances are… if it doesn't happen… if everyone thought that way, revolutions wouldn't happen, but
even the bourgeoisie didn't think that way back when they had to organize and wage revolutionary war to overthrow feudalism and serfdom.
It's like racist "communists" have no recollection of what was going on in Africa during the cold war or something.
>>2585443
>your average negro is a lumpenproletariat
Reverse multipolaroid is still retarded
>>2585569I bet it's not even the same anon. You were talking to
>>2585548 who is on the tor node, but the reply you got was from
>>2585566 who is not. I suspect they're just trolling and weren't even the original person.
>>2585516>the authentic andesite andrewThe True Titanium Thomas
The Genuine Gold George
The Pure Platinum Peter
The Honed Hafnium Henry
The Robust Rhodium Ryan
The Noble Nickel Nathan
The Bold Beryllium Ben
The Steeled Scandium Scott
The Daring Dysprosium Daniel
The Loyal Lithium Leo
The Magnetic Molybdenum Mark
The Vibrant Vanadium Victor
The Concrete Cobalt Carl
>>2585554>because colonization is a process which is externally imposed by a conquering group onto a conquered groupWont argue the definitional point (other anon used the term endo-colonization.) but it is the same socialization process when the subject is taught the language and culture from birth no matter what group they originally came from.
Also according to your definition Foundational Black Americans have been part of America for centuries at this point. They are not a separate nation after the first generation of slaves even if they were put into a subordinate position within American society. So it wouldn't count as colonization proper.
>in the sense that all nations are political entities which impose the will of a ruling class. It's deeper than that because even before modern nation-states all the way back to tribes people impose the languages they know onto the children around them and socialize them into the culture that was forced on them when they were children. The whole process is coercive yet decolonialists imply the moralist argument that it's bad when their nation is not allowed to impose language and a different group imposes a language instead. Morally there is no difference between forcing one language/culture or another onto children. That's simply how socialization works.
>Some people watch their cultures, communities, and languages go extinctYes and it puts them into a subordinate positions. In the USA people with Southern accents were looked down on in most the other parts of the country as dumb hicks because they were conquered by the union and were poor. But now even the southern accent itself is disappearing.
>>2585548>Every nation colonizes it's own citizens.It's sad how we have to dumb down Marxism so that multipolaroids "anti-imperialists" have to understand in their nationalist terms.
>>2585563ngl the meetings look way more fun in kenya
>>2585514This is certainly a positive quality in American culture tho natives probably disagree.
>>2585663>brooo it's liberal propaganda not an observable fact, there's an american race brooooi think you need to go
>>2585514>The great thing about being American is that anyone can be an American, there’s no American “race”I couldn't agree more. Its actually why I think new world countries are a superior form of nation state, there's no ethnic baggage weighing us down. Not everyone can be Japanese, but anyone can be American or Brazilian
>>2585676the observable fact is that racial oppression still exists, it's not an ethnostate nor an apartheid state but believing that racial equality has been achieved is such a folly.
Reminder: The state is an instrument of the suppression of one class by another. By supporting the bourgeois state you not only support imperialism, you also support the suppression of the proletariat by the bourgeoisie. The only Marxist strategy is to smash the state and replace it with a proletariat state organization made up of the armed body of the proletariat.
honkoid status?
>>2585706There's no ethnic baggage weighing YOU down, because you're a white settler colonialist. There is lots of ethnic baggage weighing others down, but you are one of the chosen race so you never see it.
>>2585732the US culture has a lot of settler colonialism but there are no more settlers, at most there are descendents of settlers desperately holding onto their priviledges, but that original formation of the country no longer exists.
>>2585732ethnic baggage is an old world issue sorry. new world chads couldn't imagine what that's like
>>2585738it's incredible how two people can have wildly opposite takes and still be retarded to the max
Watching latams turn into mini hitlers whenever the topic of Venezuelan refugees comes up puts forth a compelling argument that south america might have a bit more ethnic baggage than we assume
>>2585741Have you ever considered that fifty years of warfare against any leftist governments combined with persistent propaganda might have had an effect on Latin America? It's not ethnic baggage, we just killed all the Communists and so there's no international solidarity with Venezuela.
>>2585486>>2585486You should tell this to all of the social fascist worker parties with tens of millions in assets and thousands or tens of thousands of dick riders, not some single man with nothing.
>>2585742>and so there's no international solidarity with Venezuela.theres a difference between having international solidarity and not foaming at the mouth for orange hitler to invade and rape your neighbors house because you think he's annoying
>>2585741Just a bit? They still had spanish colonizers and to this day there are indiginous groups who are being wronged there
>>2585743any more excuses?
>>2585810lmao no way thats a real photo
>>2585811Its AI
has to be… >>2585131kek doesn't come from 4chan, /b/ and even less /pol/ which is way younger.
kek comes from World Of Warcraft, where the two factions can't communicate between each other, but you can see what they say in an ecrypted way. the game developers simply syphered the chats so users from one faction can't understand other factions messages. then when the horde writes "lol" the term was syphered into 'kek' (from the alliance pov).
that you think that 4chan created something original like that is giving too much value to it, much more of what they deserve, really. like living rent free on your head.
also, you are in an imageboard that was bastardized from infinitechan, obviously the imageboard culture
it's there.
>>2585755>even more sinisterbruh he is super photogenic that's part of the reason he won
this is just overt racism
>>2585436it better be hot
>Breaking News: An ex-DEA agent has been charged with agreeing to launder millions of dollars in narcotics proceeds for a Mexican drug cartel
>Inb4 it gets pardoned.
>>2585514This is literally a democratic talking point, if you're so obsessed with being a dem party apparatchik why not join the DSA which at least has some movement instead of the CPUSA which is literally just tailing the DSA, you're the tails tail, regurgitating clintonite american exceptionalism vomit, like a piece of shit stuck in the dog's anus that barely persists because every 10 years the CPUSA tries to kill itself
>>2585514imagine you wanna be a burger, lmfao
>>2585853The CPUSA trying to kill itself is good because it's an anti-communist party that exists to kill the left and prevent it's rise.
Both of them serve the same purpose, which is killing the left. The DSSA is just honest about it.
people wont want to hear this but the DSA is good, every chapter to the left of MUG is good, and eating the base of the democrats while infiltrating their unions is the most necessary thing
>>2585874
You clearly have no friends
>>2585863shut up and get out there and do the revolution. Stop posting on leftypol and hurry up. You're a fascist if you aren't bombing the white house or whatever. All talk no action.
>>2585755>looking even more sinisterCuomo looked like he’s had Grima Wormtongue as an advisor for a decade and Curtis Sliwa looks like your racist uncle at Thanksgiving. I’m starting to think Zionists literally have a filter where they see Mamdani wearing a turban and holding an ACME bomb at all times.
>>2585850I'm sure the PLA is terrified of the drunken Crusader larper who shares classified military secrets on unsecured chat apps and gets off to blowing up Venezuelan fishermen.
>>2585879
>>2585926
Actually kill yourself
>>2585914
Trvkenvke
>>2585863truth nuke
>>2585885seethe nuke
>>2585941?? where's the lie?
>>2585512>We should be invading Europe with Venezuelas to bring global communism not invading them.rest of the post was cringe but this is correct and based
>>2585941????? why is it bad?
>>2584865Make ANARCHY Great Again!
>>2585957there is no war, just unilateral bombing
>>2585963that's what a war crime is… yes?
>>2585926
>REEEEEE PLEASE SUCK MY COCK
No.
>>2585913I get what you're doing but the equivalent of Gerasimov or Li Qiaoming are these guys.
Russian and Chinese equivalent of Kegsbreath are:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Belousovhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dong_Jun >>2585914
that theory was never materialist in the first places, so I would rather historians not
>>2585953>>2585957The fishermen were not at war with amerika, so it is a crime against humanity. The liberal says it is "war crime" because they dropped a second bomb.
Everything the liberal says is performative. Look at the face in thumbnail.
This is proven at 26:00 when the senator spends the rest of the video justifying his crimes in iraq and kuwait.
>>2585877The DSSA explicitly exists to destroy the left and that is what they are still doing. They aren't eating the Democrats base, they are providing the party with more votes and electoral support in exchange for nothing. Ask yourself this: What have DSSA and their "electeds" actually accomplished? What legislative accomplishments do they have?
The answer is nothing. They simply vote yes on everything the Democrats do and no on everything the GOP does. They are functionally identical to Democrats and are not trying to break away and form their own organization despite this being in their own bylaws. The DSSA is supposed to do what they call a dirty break, where they used Democratic resources and clout to get elected and then break off from the party and operate as independents.
They do not do this. The DSSA exists as a pressure relief valve to funnel the energy of the left into the Democratic party where it can be safely dissipated without having to give any concessions to the working class. Once again, the DSSA was literally founded to destroy the left in America. That was always Michael Harrington's goal, and that is what his organization does today.
If there was any left in America it would raid the DSSA for members and then physically liquidate their chapters with armed cadre.
>>2586005>Are they the vanguard of the American proletariat?Yes.
>>2585938>nobel peace prize nominees face whenthe glowhell piss prize is a farce and the very lady they're trying to install in venezueal as a comprador is a "winner" of this notorious "prize", as is Henry Kissinger
>>2585242My uncle is 6'5", he rented one of them little cars once when we were on vacation and had a great time with it. That thing was fast man and it had a surprising amount of leg and trunk room
>>2586014Another great one was Abiy Ahmed who got it in 2019 and then almost immediately became a genocidal dictator.
>>2586015If that's the case I would be sorely tempted to buy one, the main issue is that I drive my family around a lot so 2 seats is too small. Also I'd get worried about getting crushed on the freeway.
>>2586027"small" cars includes 4 door sedans. It's just that Americans build their cars so ridiculously big that a normal sized car is called small here.
>>2586028Anon we're talking about Kei trucks specifically, not sedans.
Obviously sedans exist in the US even if a lot of people are buying giant trucks or SUVs.
>>2586028>>2586030I mean sedans aren't kei cars but there's plenty of 4-door compact kei cars
>>2585902anon was commenting on the content of the cartoon, not your post
>>2586030Imagine how wet your woman will get when you pull up with this. RETVRN.
A used, low mileage, 4WD Suzuki Carry is like 15k USD in Japan.
the uae is getting away with everything and i'm going insane
>>2585863The CPUSA isn't even fit to perform its historical anti-revolutionary role any more, it's a shell of its former revisionism anti-Comintern self, it literally just exists to steal the labor, time and money from literal fucking morons. People on the CPUSA are dumb marks and thus lesser beings compared to you or me. Currently it tails the DSA but in the future it will tail the ACP, just a useless organization.
>>2586037How much euro is it to get that in eastern europe? I make <700 a month.
I hope the chinese sex robots are cheap cuz I want one too.
>>2586037plus import fees, plus registration, plus inevitable rust damage
>>2586051if by grass you mean armpit hair…
>>2586049Sure Ron. Put your name back on.
>>2585744> foaming at the mouth for orange hitler to invade and rape your neighbors house because you think he's annoyingthis might be a vocal minority in latin america
>>2586052Amazing how a natural feature of every human become a fetish because of stupid grooming norms. American culture sucks on every level.
>>2586037How much euro is it to get that in eastern europe? I make <700 a month.
I hope the chinese sex robots are cheap cuz I want one too.
>>2586056Lol cry about it incel.
>>2586056that's actually a good point anon
(i am the anon you are responding to and was just riffing, I don't actually have a pit hair fetish)>>2586062I don't see how it's incelish to point out the fetishization of natural features due to grooming norms
>>2586064You're upset at me having a sexuality since you get nothing.
It has nothing to do with your idea that it was fetishizing since it's contradictory to grooming standards, (which was wrong lol).
>>2586042Unfortunately CPUSA still tries it's hardest to destroy the left, which is why the left should try it's hardest to destroy them.
>>2586068>You're upset at me having a sexuality since you get nothing.Anon you don't know anything about my personal life but let me not bother to reassure since this kind of conversation is always a race to the bottom, and accusations of sexual inactivity are just bait. What point is there in telling you anything? If I say I am sexually active, you will say I am lying, and then actual incels will come out to seethe at sex havers anyway. I suspect this is a ploy to fill the thread up fast. I have noticed that sexual conversations tend to start around post 500.
>>2586071>addicted to losingit's called false opposition. it's called being the "left" wing of capital. Capital's non-dominant hand.
>>2586073Democrats are the establishment party idiot
>>2585512>We do capitalism, and communism better then anyone else. Unironic lovestoneism in 2025 lmao
>>2586086those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it, and those who do know history are doomed to get called gay nerds by those who run around repeating history
>>2585850pete kegsbreath has to be able to suck a golf ball through a garden hose. to succeed in the army you have to be gay. to make it to the top you have to be the most gay.
>>2586086Real Lovestoneism has never been tried
does anyone have the clip of Alex Karp doing a sit down interview but can't fucking sit down because he's coked the fuck out.
ACP shills are so fucking retarded lmao. Weird ass aggro haz cultists who offer nothing. You'll be laughed into irrelevance or thrown in jail for rape.
>>2586097Every socialist american org will tail the ACP in 5 years, you can frame this. it's really not that ideologically distinct since its main ingredient is american exceptionalism
>>2586071>Demand humility on the part of Democrats, a sincere accounting of how they contributed to the electorate's fracturing along lines of class and culture.I mean the statement itself isn't that incorrect but guaranteed that "accounting" looks like moving even further to the Right.
You can't do Clintonite triangulation without being libs in the culture war, no one is actually interested in neoliberalism anymore, it doesn't have any legitimacy as a governing ideology. The idea "Oh people will get behind neoliberalism if we just drop anything liberatory or socially progressive in it" is just batshit stupid.
Yes the Dems do need to account for their actions, but they need to account for how they acted in service of neoliberalism. You need class first politics, not apologizing for "dividing people by class" (really they mean apologizing to billionaires) and "culture" (this they actually did fuck up on)
>>2586101You'll all be arrested for trafficking meth dawg lmao
>>2586101This is like saying in the 70s-80s that everyone will tail LaRouche. it's delusional. Nobody wants to tail a bunch of reactionary schizos who tail the GOP and whose only virtue is "anti-"imperialism which takes the peculiar form of trying to mix the
aesthetics and
rhetoric of anti-imperialism with American patriotism
>>2586097>ACP shills are so fucking retarded lmao.Agree, same with CPUSA and DSA shills.
>>2586106>which takes the peculiar form of trying to mix the aesthetics and rhetoric of anti-imperialism with American patriotismThe CPUSA pretty much invented this flavor of "communism" and shaped every org since then, it's really not that different, the character is the exact same. The only thing that's materially different is that the ACP has, for know, separated itself from the Democratic party unlike every other major org which are all basically entryist
>>2586110yeah, they just tail the elephants instead, based on the false perception that it is somehow "less reactionary" than the donkeys, and the tail specifically its reactionary social positions, on the false premise that scapegoating LGBT people and women is somehow "anti-imperialist" because they take Demonkkkrap pinkwashing propaganda at face value. But they go even further, replacing Marx with Heidegger, Lenin with Dugin, Stalin with Nick Land, and Mao with Lyndon Larouche.
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>>2586109>>2586106>"anti-"imperialism Say whatever you want about them but they are outflanking everyone else on the american left on anti-imperialism, but this strasserite general thinks anti-imperialism is woke or something so no one will admit it.
>>2586114I said they're outflanking everyone, I also pointed out the bar is so low it makes the core of the Earth look like heaven. And I also pointed out their rotten reactionary politics of scapegoating LGBT as somehow more imperialist than cishet people, because they fundamentally take bourgeois pinkwashing propaganda at face value.
>>2586114it's not really anti imperialism anyway. It is the aesthetics and rhetoric of anti imperialism mixed with the social chauvinism of "MAGA" and "America First."
How is mixing sincere American exceptionalism and sincere patriotic chauvinism with purely rhetorical anti-imperialism not a reactionary recipe for disaster? It is really tiresome.
>>2586114Even libertarians say they are anti-imperialist. Take one peak under the hood and you know they are full of shit
>>2586114>Say whatever you want about them but they are outflanking everyone else on the american leftThey can do this because they're free to not tow the democratic party line, yeah larouchites have historically being ridiculous clowns but in the absence of an electoral avenue which doesn't lead back to either the GOP or the dems, the ACP is the only game in town at the moment, a curious historical contingency.
Notice how ACP shills say "Class first" but then embrace needless reactionary politics of scapegoating marginalized groups like LGBT on the rhetorical grounds that they are "rainbow imperialists". If you push back on this completely unnecessary and irrelevant scapegoating, which objectively centers idpol, you get told that no, actually you're the one doing idpol, and actually it's class-first to scapegoat people. No a real class-first approach to politics wouldn't demonize them OR elevate them over everyone else, it would just treat them like regular human beings and protect them from bigotry, while still making class struggle and anti imperialism the central agenda. How is this not complete common sense at this point?
>>2586133they literally shill "MAGA communism," "ethical landlords," "Women should obey and vote according to their husband's will," "LGBT people are all imperailist." . But they go even further, replacing Marx with Heidegger, Lenin with Dugin, Stalin with Nick Land, and Mao with Lyndon Larouche. They are not a Marxist party. They do interviews with Nick Fuentes and go on incel podcasts. They are a bunch of reactionary stremers and grifters, and the fact that you shill them as "the only game in town" is very suspect.
and if opposing bigotry is "liberal idpol" in your stupid reactionary opinion, then consider also that Hinkle said "Communists don't oppose private property."
>>2586140I'm not arguing against the ACP being crazy reactionaries, I'm saying that they're outflanking everybody because they do not need to tow close to either party and are free to take firm stances against Israel, Ukraine and Venezuela adventures, that's it, that's what's different, and I've also argued that the American exceptionalism character of the ACP is not out of line with the rest of the orgs, especially the CPUSA. This is why the ACP is eating their lunch, and why I will predict it will be the dominant, "communist" party in the close future.
>>2586140While I'm typically non sectarian and I vibe with the general left spectrum, the TWister and ACP alliance gets no support from me in any way, and I hope they all step on rakes until they're either punched in the mouth, made a laughing stock, or imprisoned. Complete fucking scumbags they are.
>>2586146>Not shilling ACP just claiming they have more motion than the parties everyone actually knows and cares aboutYou're fucking braindead brother
>>2586148>the TWister and ACP alliance There's no such thing, only a once in a generation moron would think this
>>2586151They objectively have more motion, either do something about it or cry about it, but it's true
>>2586133>They can do this because they're free to not tow the democratic party line, yeah larouchites have historically being ridiculous clowns but in the absence of an electoral avenue which doesn't lead back to either the GOP or the dems, the ACP is the only game in town at the moment, a curious historical contingency.No offense but what the hell are you talking about? PSL runs independent candidates, as does the CPUSA, pretty sure Socialist Alternative does too.
Where's this myth that somehow "The ACP is the only game in town" come from? They aren't the biggest Communist Party nor are they even the most successful.
>>2586155Lmfao holy shit what are you talking about? Tell me what they're actually doing PLEASE. Give me literally any example of actions they're taking, motions they're passing, support they're gaining, elections they're winning, literally
anything >>2586157They're a fucking
laughing stock by any stretch of the imagination, they only exist on the internet, they scare the hoes, and exist solely on reddit/discord. It's fucking wild we even have to talk about them
>>2586155>>2586146if you think they're more relevant than everyone else you might be terminally online or just shilling them with slightly more subtlety now that the irrefutable reactionary nature of their grifter streamer leadership has been elaborated upon multiple times
>>2586159>Make unsubstantiated claims>Prefix them with "objectively" or "material"That's pretty much the crux of what passes for argumentation or analysis on here.
It's a goddamn shame because the whole point of dialectical materialism is to avoid the kind of vibes based assertions of shit like "The Protestant Work Ethic" and grounding political thought in reality. Instead it's used by a few as window dressing for the same vibe based assumptions.
>>2586166>>2586167Y'know what fucking blows my mind is the ACP will make bizarre exclamations
>"Gays are naturally imperialist">"America is some authoritarian collectivist Eurasianist state" They'll proclaim themselves "MAGA Communists" and you'll get absolutely childish people here saying "Erm, they're objectively to the left of the CPUSA".
I think this boils down to people not even in leftist orgs trying to dictate what the wider movement "should look like"
>>2586172It like… HAS to be solely keyboard warrior shit, right? How much of this even happens irl? Is this just another permutation of the "marketplace of ideas"?
>>2586174Yknow I think an awful lot about what an older comrade once told me, which amounted to: "The most radical thing you can
say doesn't necessarily mean the most radical thing you can
do.." I'd say people who aren't in parties but consider themselves "Marxist-Leninists" are attracted more to the aesthetic of politics than actual politics.
And the ACP is a great source of aesthetics for them, they're throwing their logo on everything, they're waving their flags around, its a full social media blitz. Most importantly they always swagger about like they're "winning" and act like every tiny advance is a huge momentum shifting victory.
It's great for people who are more concerned with vibes I'd say.
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