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>>2576793Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it. 496 posts and 57 image replies omitted.Everyone know what time it is? It's time for your nothing-ever-happens-against-the-hegemon reminder!
<Maduro decap
<Russian/Chinese words of support
<Cucktin using his new strategic-agreement line with Venezuela to counsel le epic restraint chess
<harsh words at the UN from Global South countries, none of whom will actually cut ties with the US, despite the copium smoked by some Cucktin apologists on what the Global South values about his cuckoldry
<Iran-style social media blitz and then retaliation against empty barracks, prioritizing fireworks displays over targets
<fizzle
You know 15-20 years from now Hollywood is gonna be releasing lots of movies about how traumatised poor American soldiers were killing Venezuelan civilians, same as with Vietnam and Iraq etc.
I say this half jokingly, but maybe this coming war won't only be about regime change and seizing oil, but also saving the American film industry…
Reminder that "not invading" passed as a positive is just as much giving cover to USA imperialism as the Democrats hand-wringing about congress approval. It's just moving the goalposts of what the base is allowed to be outraged about, past whatever the ruling class is currently doing.
No different from left-liberals conceding on Saddam Gaddafi Assange Maduro Bad propaganda.
the terrorists seized a Chinese-owned tanker today
>>2606825
shadow fleets arent real it just means they get insurance somewhere not london or new york
>>2607000>saving the American film industry…american war films don't make that much at the box office though. marveslop does.
>>2605520this didn't age well
Reminder that Zohran gave his explicit approval for the invasion of Venezuela by calling Maduro a 'dictator'.
>>2607496Nobody cares about your mayoral candidates, back to your containment thread, burger.
>>2607489Russia has behaved timidly toward the US ("it's just Europe, America is our potential business partner! praise Trump, he should've received the Nobel!"). China showed this year that it has no appetite to behave asymmetrically and ruthlessly toward America on the economic front, much less the military front. These were neon-lit signals to the US that it could do what it wants in Venezuela.
China should've halted rare-earth exports indefinitely instead of relenting. Or at least "We'll be resuming exports no sooner than the next US administration - we'll see how it behaves toward China." That's how you speak the US geopolitical language. Instead, now it's out there expressing limp concerns about Venezuela and dropping 'warnings' to the US upon discovering that advanced weapons are about to be sent to Taiwan.
>>2604258Great plan that was. Use
unsanctioned vessels and
very short VZ navy escorts to send a Cucktin-esque weakie signal. America just treats them like sanctioned vessels anyway and intercepts. Ho ho ho.
>>2605520Updates? ho ho ho
How do we make BRICS states behave as decisively as the burgers?
>>2608420The important part is to rig all oil infrastructure to blow, and deny it to the Americans.
>>2608420>The US is about to Any day now! :-P
Meanwhile, blockade holds. Pool's closed. Strat bombing to kill the grid a possibility.
Putin, Maduro's new strategic advisor, miscalculated. He thought the US would opt for his slow attrition nonsense and enter a Ukraine-style quagmire. Those guns are completely irrelevant.
>>2604275Is there going to be accountability for this post? Turns out, the VZ navy didn't accomplish shit and didn't have to be shot at.
looking like the anti-ship missiles would've done more for ven than boxes of bullets, after all… who'da known?
>>2608479It's kinda like burning your life savings so some scammer can't steal it. You end up suffering more. The scammer sighs and returns to business as usual elsewhere.
>>2608529This isn't scamming, this is armed robbery.
>>2608367Many reasons for that - China is still interlinked with usa as manufacturer, resource provider, tech dependant in certain areas (they still lags in UV lithography for ex) and most importantly - china still holds too many us treasurys, while cutting them as fast as possible. Also, military rebuilding program isnt complete yet, especially on sea component, so they cant afford to project their power that far from taiwan, which is way higher in priority issue for china anyway. I mean there could be a hard divorse between US and China, like between Russia and Europe, but CPC wants it as smooth as possible, while ramping up industrial capabilities.
Countries implicitly validate the US as a worthy world leader whenever they trot on over to visit the UN HQ. The UN HQ should be moved elsewhere. Find some island somewhere.
>>2609016>Still no response from the PRC.at best they'll do a china's final warning
>>2609030yeah. a deployment halfway around the world against the worlds most powerful navy is just not possible for them. they're gonna abandon Venezuela.
>>2609043Or they could blitz Taiwan and Ryukyu
Ukraine popped another Russian general in Moscow with a car bomb. Cucktin will do nothing again - not even kill Budanov. The docile geriatric doesn't seem to appreciate how signals like these have emboldened the Americans into thinking they can take out Maduro without any Russian response.
I expect Venezuela will stop sending out tankers sanctioned by the USA. Or advising them not to leave. Then the USA will start seizing non USA sanctioned tankers.
>>2604548I feel like Macgregor and Scott Ritter are two faces of the same attention whoring coin.
<BRICS News
<@BRICSinfo
>JUST IN: 🇨🇳🇺🇸 China says US seizure of oil tanker ships are a 'serious violation' of international law.
lol
>>2609727oh boy. it's over. i think the yanks will begin they bombardment on christmas. seems like a trump thing to do.
>>2609654there needs to be more critique of the same old multipolarists geopolitics analysts. people are rightly skeptical of the mainstream media but don't apply the same. i remember ritter after oct 7 saying that hamas was breaking out to create a bridghead into israel so they could link up to the west bank and even for someone like me that was lauhgable
>>2615088It's literally a grift for this lot, chat shit, do the podcast circuit, etc etc.
I remember when rotter was trying to hawk 'challenge coins', lmao.
>>2615088>>2615091I think people get into that stuff out of pure negation. They're not wrong to sense that something is off about the mainstream media (for many reasons that should be evident to anyone who posts here, don't need to elaborate) and those institutions have undermined their credibility, but they end up just uncritically accepting what some conspiracy theorist who projects confidence says. But that's not really the opposite of the mainstream media but a distorted mirror image of it. It's pathological or "sick" in the sense that the main purpose is to provide an emotional cope for people while inhibiting critical thinking.
I have a little bit more sympathy for Ritter than McGregor because Ritter actually did get fucked over by the Bush administration. He want to jerk off in front of some undercover cop posing as a kid but his case was sealed by the court because he was seeking rehabilitation (which is something I believe in) and then somehow the Bush people leaked it to the press several years later to discredit him during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. He strikes me as someone who must believe he's unshakeably in the right and the officials in Washington are wrong and lying to people, and while he was right and those people were lying to people, he was the opposite of this in the 90s when he was more hawkish towards Saddam than the Clinton administration was. So he became an anti-war guy after the U.S. government grew incredibly hawkish but he had previously been a hawk when it wasn't as much. That's one reason why I think Bush and the neocons wanted to get rid of him.
I have contempt for McGregor. He has a bust of Napoleon in the background. I do not trust military men. They can be very good at projecting confidence but part of their job when they were in the military was enforcing obedience, chain of command. People who feel like they've exited the mainstream media however are very easily taken in by such charlatans because they still want that feeling of epistemic certainty and he was "inside the system" or whatever. He was as colonel which was a mid-ranking officer position which is a badge of experience in a particular kind of system that rewards certain behaviors but never EVER assume someone who was in the brass knows what the hell they're talking about (including military matters).
>>2615080why didn't they just board it with an airplane?
>>2615114Ritter is an honest bourgeois democrat who tells some truth about Soviet history and geopolitics. MacGregor is a complete reactionary who repeats Nazi-tier propaganda about the USSR and Soviet history.
Yesterday's
>"Ur b& disinformation demoralization troll"
is today's
>"Well acktchually this is realpolitik and sush! You China/AES basher."
I'll repeat what I always say: I do not actually care if you get blackpilled because the barbarism is coming to NATO no matter what you feel about it. China will not save you. You will not have a revolution "when things get bad enough" nor "withdraw" from hegemonic power. You'll just be on the receiving end of retreading the 80s and the 90s.
>>2616661That’s too poetic to be true
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