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/US-Venezuela war/ #4
>Chavista Rapid Action Troops Edition

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Previous thread: >>2576793

Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.

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This one was made before the other one, so I vote we keep this one.

WAR?
NO!

>>2595882
She looks like an antisemitic caricature

>>2596042
A serious invasion would be a big American blunder akin to Vietnam, so I'm not sure if I want it to happen. On the one hand it could make the end of the American empire come far sooner than expected, on the other hand a serious invasion(as in beyond symbolic strikes a la Iran) would turn into yet more American anti-guerrilla warfare which, much like in Vietnam, is pretty much genocidal.

>>2596047
Reminder Caracas isn't coastal. It's behind a mountain range. There is a choke to get into the city. You don't have to be a HoI4 player to see how a naval invasion into a choke and/or air invasion past a mountain, both into an urban area would be a… problem. For any military.

>>2596002
NEVER NEVER WAR

NEH
reminder
NEH

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Guys, they are gonna coup Maduro and plunge the region into fascistic hell. So be sure to vote blue no matter who so this doesn't happen again!. If you don't vote for the "former" cia mercenary psycho killer then you are silly ultra who is falling for cointelpro cia propaganda. Thank you.

>>2596263
Except they won't. You put too much hope in the amount of sacrifice the US is willing to make. 4 million militia are willing and able to fight for the chavista regime.

>>2596263
>vote blue no matter who
america invades venezuela
>vote red
america invades venezuela
>don't vote at all
america invades venezuela

Does voting one way or another affect this outcome whatsoever?

>>2596270
No. To be fair, democrats in the congress are very much against this potential regime change operation. But we all know the democratic strategy is to do what Trump is doing but in a slower more "calculated" way. Dems play it safe. Republicans are hotheaded.

>>2596264
We heard of the same million strong devoted iraqi soldiers
Once big yankee cock invade they all threw their weapons and fled and murica just rolled over

>>2596047
Why do you not want America to get into a pickle? Are you a vlass enemy?

>>2596271
So you're saying that voting for dems would slow down brute force imperialism, if not so slow that it never happens in the face of venezuela's growing might, and not only that but dems are technically progressive in comparison to rethuglicans, giving more concessions to the working class in general, managing the economy better, and using soft power internationally that while still imperialist, results in less death and destruction overall and allowing SEA countries in the global south an easier time to build up their productive forces?

>>2596272
That was a 160,000 strong multi-national force.

>>2596276
Nazism with a Human Face
Genocide with Beyonce Characteristics
Rape, yes, but with a condom

You get the point i hope

>>2596277
Do not question me.

>>2596281
*mwah*

>>2596275
>blood alone moves the wheels of history

>>2596279
>both sides are literally the same I'm a serious communist btw

Look it's really really important for the global proletariat that America weakens itself by feeding trillions into the global MIC and arms trade. That's communism and if you oppose it you're a social fascist at best

I'm being revolutionary by doing nothing.

>>2596287
Political quietism. Be nice, be polite, be quiet

>>2596290
have a plan to kill everyone you meet

>>2596285
Yes, the Dems and the Reps are exactly the same

>>2596294
>there is no left or right wing of capital
Read marx please

>>2596297
You misunderstand
I am saying in the context of bullying and assaulting Venezuela (or Cuba, or DPRK, or Russia, or China), there is no difference between Rwpublicans and Democrats.

>>2596294
There is. The overarching goals of the dems and GOP is the same but they are still independent, in their own, market controlled away.

>>2596299
>making shit up
The democrats wouldn't be doing the shit we've seen the DT admin doing in the Gulf this past year and that is almost without debate. Yes they would be imperialist still, because they are a bourgeois democratic "party", but their approach, philosophies, tactics and actions are not exactly the same, with the democrats being less destructive overall (even when committing war crimes, they regularly commit less). This is all a very low bar, they're still monsters, but to make total equivalences is just intellectually lazy.

>>2596308
Fuck you naive liberal
The demonrats are satanic queer fascists

>>2596308
In fact, with the democrats in charge and taking the blame for everything, class distinctions become more apparent to the masses because they're supposed to be the "progressive nice" party and still fail to do jack shit. Every time a democrat is president, the progressive minded wing of the masses begin to turn against the rich and wallstreet as opposed to being distracted by the psychotic demagoguery of the hyper-fascist decadent conservatives. As far as harm reduction goes, the democrats are sadly the only but technically better choice. This is unique to american politics because we don't have a pluralistic parliament so it's a shitty system to inherit but it's still pretty straightforward and nearly every leftist who actually lives here intuitively understand this dynamic because it's very obvious

>>2596313
(however we are still capable in some local elections to run "Independents" with much better politics and that is becoming more frequent over time as consciousness slowly develops. Bernie has been an Independent senator and house representative for over 30 years.

>>2596308
the democrats were escalating over ukraine to levels far more dangerous than anything trump is doing in the caribbean. the reality is they're not the same exactly, but if the empire is doing "less" in one place it's doing more somewhere else. It's just a matter of preference and sequencing, where the focus and approach goes atm.
the ruling class wants hegemony re-established. and right now they want a mafia don to be a brazen criminal and bully weaker opponents ("soft targets") into compliance and bide time with with the big dogs (russia china). when that approach doesn't work or loses its utility they'll change to a democrat to do different tactics, sequencing and messaging. the end goal will not change.
you can't vote the empire away. they have a military and intelligence machine with budgets that need to be justified and resources that need to be expended somewhere (against someone). it's going to do what it does one way or another. if they stopped directing it against venezuela tomorrow they would direct it against someone else the next.
No matter who you elect, you can guarantee they're going to increase the military budget, increase the powers of the security state, increase the number of sanctions and economic warfare measures around the world, and they're going to be trying to overthow multiple governments by multiple means.

>>2596311
We call them DickᛋᛋiegKKKrats, Anon.

>>2596327
>You can't vote empire away
No shit and no one said that, no one is ever saying that. But as a matter of strategic preference for communists all the world over, a democratic American administration is preferred to a Republican one Every Single Time.

>>2596331
the last major US wars against communists/socialists that come to mind are:
Vietnam (started by Kennedy)
Afghanistan (proxy, by Carter)
Nicaragua (proxy, by Reagan, arguably by Carter)
Yugoslavia (Clinton)
there are others you could name, but you get the drift. destroying socialism is a bipartisan obsession in DC. Electing democrats has never helped communists (at least not since FDR i guess).

when are you guys going to talk about Venezuela

>>2596161
PEACE? YES!

Did someone say WAR?

If the US does actually commit to an invasion of Venezuela I hope the AI bubble bursts at the same time to increase the chance of an American collapse/civil war.

VUVU SI VUVU SI, YANKEE NO

>>2596423
blackpill: america will have no civil war until the rest of the world is a smoldering wasteland, with billions dead and nowhere else for it to export its contradictions

>>2596485
Even then, Musktard will find martians to enslave before the Yeezy-obsessed american 'prole' decides to revolt

Behind the Seized Venezuelan Tanker, Cuba’s Secret Lifeline

The oil tanker seized by the United States off the coast of Venezuela this week was part of the Venezuelan government’s effort to support Cuba, according to documents and people inside the Venezuelan oil industry.

The tanker, which is called Skipper, left Venezuela on Dec. 4, carrying nearly two million barrels of the country’s heavy crude, according to internal data from Venezuela’s state oil company, known as PDVSA. The ship’s destination was listed as the Cuban port of Matanzas, the data shows.

Two days after its departure, Skipper offloaded a small fraction of its oil, an estimated 50,000 barrels, to another ship, called Neptune 6, which then headed north toward Cuba, according to the shipping data firm Kpler. After the transfer, Skipper headed east, toward Asia, with the vast majority of its oil on board, according to a U.S. official briefed on the matter.

In recent years, however, only a fraction of Venezuelan oil set aside for Cuba has actually reached the island, according to PDVSA documents and tanker tracking data.

Most of the oil allocated for Cuba has instead been resold to China, with the money providing badly needed hard currency for the Cuban government, according to multiple people close to the Venezuelan government.

Some of that money is believed to have been used by Cuban officials to purchase basic goods, though the opacity of the country’s economy makes it difficult to estimate where that money ends up, or how it is spent, or how much goes to business intermediaries with ties to both governments.

The oil from Venezuela that does reach Cuba generates electricity and provides fuel for airplanes and machinery. But it is not enough to prevent widespread power outages that have plagued the island amid a broader economic crisis.

Skipper’s planned voyage shows how, in practice, Cuba benefits from oil trade in Venezuela. Cubametales, the state-run firm, listed the ship’s destination as Cuba, suggesting that all of the company’s allocated 1.1 million barrels were heading to the island.

The tanker, however, ultimately headed to China after offloading only a small fraction of the oil to the Neptune 6 and sending it en route to Cuba, according to a person close to PDVSA.

Then, on Wednesday, as Skipper sailed east in international waters between the islands of Grenada and Trinidad, it fell into a U.S. ambush.

U.S. officials said they would seek a warrant to seize the oil, valued at tens of millions of dollars, adding that the crew had agreed to sail the vessel under Coast Guard supervision to a U.S. port, likely Galveston, Texas.

The history of Skipper’s voyages points to a larger, looser network connecting the energy industries of Venezuela, Cuba, Iran and Russia, the four American adversaries that have been, to various degrees, shut out from the formal global oil market by Washington’s sanctions.

Skipper’s crew of about 30 sailors was mostly Russian, a U.S. official said.

Before shipping Venezuelan oil, Skipper spent four years as part of Iran’s covert fleet, transporting Iranian oil to Syria and China, according to data from Kpler, the shipping data firm, and a senior Iranian oil ministry official, who discussed sensitive issues on condition of anonymity.

Elsewhere in Venezuela, Iranian contractors have worked on repairing the country’s El Palito and Amuay refineries, according to Homayoun Falakshahi, Kpler’s head oil analyst and an expert on Iran’s energy sector.

Russia supplies Venezuela with key imports of naphtha, a light oil product that Venezuela uses to dilute its sludgy main type of crude and make it suitable for export. A Russian state-run oil company, Rosneft, produces nearly 100,000 barrels a day of crude in Venezuela, and in previous years the company had played a crucial role in exporting Venezuelan oil to China.

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How much longer till the bombing starts? I know it's hard to predict the exact date but it can't be much longer at this point. The escalation is getting worse, the imperialist media already has decided on its handpicked successor (may she burn in Hell), etc. In any case I'm going to try to time my self-immolation for maximum effect.

>>2597138
Deployment began in August. From then to now we have 4 months.
For comparison, Iraq War 1 = 5 months
Iraq war 2 = 13 months

>>2596336
>Electing democrats has never helped communists (at least not since FDR i guess).
I'm inclined to agree but preference for the Democrats over Republicans has been the position of every ruling communist party since WW2. The CPUSA adopted its position of supporting the democrats under the advice if the CPSU, and later on the Cuban and Chinese communists.

>>2596279
>Genocide with Beyonce Characteristics
you joke but

>In any case I'm going to try to time my self-immolation for maximum effect.
my sibling in science that is one of the stupidest and most painful ways to commit suicide. Also you will be forgotten immediately like Aaron Bushnell.


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