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>>2606711Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchetfLoOd DeTeCtEd PoSt DiScArDeD <The Executive Branch is a private members club that opened in the Georgetown neighborhood of Washington, D.C. in 2025. It has been described as a "private club for the MAGA elite".anons,
I found this job posting while searching around today. I have a strong left leaning internet footprint but think this could be a great opportunity for someone with a similar communications background and no web presence.
Obviously the sooner anyone leaks information or does journalistic research on them the less “stable” the role will be from an employment perspective, so do with that information what you will, work in teams and be strategic if you’re interested in scoping them out and can in this way.
https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/marketing-and-communications-director-at-executive-branch-4345102070?trk=public_jobs_topcard-title Reminder that an American communist who does not place ghe immediate and complete dismantlement of NATO as his top priority is no communist at all.
>>2607999
oh no, you hurt my feelings. now i am going to kill 1488 trillion brown kids in exchange for 1 (one) chewed up funko pop with spaghetti sauce stuck to the bottom
There is no such thing as politics in America, it’s a country of cannibals and savages with nothing to offer the world outside of a protection racket
>>2608011Basado, never let dick riders off the hook.
>A lot of people don’t seem to mind this. Every time I run into a blog post about how love means carving a new scripture out of the marble of our imperfections, the comments are full of people saying things like “Beautifully put” and “That brought a tear to my eye.” Researchers found that most people vastly prefer A.I.-generated poetry to the actual works of Shakespeare, T.S. Eliot and Emily Dickinson. It’s more beautiful. It’s more emotive. It’s more likely to mention deep, touching things, like quietness or echoes. It’s more of what poetry ought to be.
>>2608012Concise yet complete and correct.
>>2608004How was Zohran wrong for doing this?
>>2608015Every one of these shrinks the amount of oxygen in the air and potable water, kill everyone
>>2608013but i am a dickrider, because i was born american. it doesn't matter if I don't let dickriders off the hook. it's just a secret ploy to get you to let down your guard because i'm a subhuman animal who willingly and gleefully supports global genocide
For Leftypol to live, the Mods must die.
>>2608018did you finish reading what nerdeen said? this would be like feeling the need to fraternize with the italian mafia every time a random italian dies in another country.
>>2607979You could be right about that too, we can only speculate. The way I see it the demonrats envision an enternal nato Reich. With Russia eventually being Balkanized and pillaged. While the rethuglicans want an out and out American empire while containing China but encircling it with “Allie’s” (BTW I don’t think anyone in the American ruling class likes anyone but Israel. They’re all disposable eventually). Both options are bad and just perpetuating empire. Also I think the Atlanticist lost anyways with this Ukraine deal. That natsec state couldn’t crack Russia, and they rather play chess in the pacific. All IMO though
>>2608022it's not that hard to set up your own chan where americans are rangebanned
>>2608026that's right. i am a dog. i'm evil. i'm going to kill you because i am genetically reactionary. all for the treats. BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
>>2608020>but i am a dickrider, because i was born american.false nuke, not everyone who was born in the US is a dick rider. Patrick Lancaster isnt a dick rider.
>>2608027The whole point of wasting time on an imageboard is to educate the yanks. There is no point in a yank-free imageboard. Chagossians are not pro-apartheid.
>>2608023What’s wrong with Chabad?
>>2608033Of course you are a trot.
>>2608029nope. he's a dickrider. he just wants to be seen as one of the good ones. any time an american does anything good it's a secret ploy to get real humans (non americans) to let their guard down. embrace the thesis.
>>2608030if by educate you mean repeat the same things you've said 10,000 times that we already agree with, but with needless added hostility, i'm with you brother. you totally need to call americans subhuman animals to get across the point that imperialism is bad or something
>>2608033finish reading nerdeen's tweet if this is a serious question.
>>2608035nobody has ever false flagged on leftypol before (you will interpret this as defending trots)
>>2608030there's like 50 people here, tops. go to 4klan if you really want to educate reactionary yankkkoids.
>>2608037I gotta wait forever before i can post on 4cuck and they have a stupid captcha. And i do not like 4cucks.
I like leftypolaks.
Marx’s writings on America disqualify him and his thought forever
>>2607998>what Trump is doing in Venezuela doesntSure it does. Murdering random fishermen in the Carribean Sea has severely harmed their reputation and damaged relations with Latin America. Military action against Venezuela could lead to mission creep or a broader escalation that could bog down the Americans in a military quagmire. Already they've created a lose-lose situation for themselves in which they can't back down without looking weak and foolish, and where they are unlikely to actually topple the Venezuelan government without direct intervention.
>doesnt mean they will do anything to stop it or that they even couldWell that's a broader question of whether or not you think America is still a bourgeois democracy in which the legislature can check executive power.
>You still havent answered how could you exploit these differences in tactics without advancing the interests of the american empire.I'd say we should (among many other things) identify fence sitting or waffling members of Congress and do everything we can to make them feel like failing to oppose the current aggression could cost them their next election.
>>2608038you bonk me with newspaper, i drone strike 10,000 weddings. that's what they call unequal exchange
>>2608039you like me? sure got a funny way of showin it
>>2608036>we already agree withAh that's news to me
>>2608043Qui aime bien châtie bien
>>2608042Your sausage fingers are too fat and diabetic to operate a drone properly
>>2608036Nerdeen is an utter moron.
Self immolation is obviously an ineffective form of protest, I think I’m gonna blow my brains out in front of the CIA headquarters, I gotta order a hugo chavez shirt though
>>2608047nah i'm not fat nor have i ever been. though i probably should be. i'm lucky to have better metabolism than most. I can eat a lot without gaining weight.
>>2608044i've told you that before. do you drink a lot of alcohol? makes people forget.
>>2608045somebody fancies himself a dom
>>2608048yet you have no argument
>>2608052You talk like CPUSAnon.
>>2608032>damaged relations with Latin Americalol pro-american parties are on a roll right now what are you talking about
>Well that's a broader question of whether or not you think America is still a bourgeois democracy in which the legislature can check executive power. Everything Trump is doing is already ilegal. This administration doesnt give a damn.
>Simply identify fence sitting or waffling members of Congress and do everything we can to make them feel like failing to oppose the current aggression would cost them their next election.All this does is supporting the idea that there is a good side to the american empire, that their current actions are not a feature, only a bug. They bomb places not because its the policy of an specific administration, its an economic necessity. This is what I mean when I say there is a "good cop/bad cop" dimension to the way their hegemony works. The republicans bully the smaller countries into submission and then the democrats show up and say "hey but maybe we could use that power to protect you in the future when we get in office, so just hold still! stay with us!".
>>2608051>has a chance to put the hurt on glowies<hurts himself instead… cuck shit cuck shit.
Reminder that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids.
>>2608055I’d prefer to make them uncomfortable while not giving any room to call me a terrorist
>>2608059>i have to kms without touching a single guilty hair because otherwise the terrorists might call me a terrorist after i'm deadstupidest shit i've ever heard
>>2608057Your posts are very emotionally neutral, slightly passive aggressive. Very similar to CPUSAnon.
>>2608054>All this does is supporting the idea that there is a good side to the american empire, that their current actions are not a feature, only a bug. I don't see how. You yourself admit that the Republicans are less aggressive on Ukraine so clearly you agree that they can differ in the hawkishess of their policy.
>>2608058>Reminder that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids.good thing i can't read… wait… what are you saying? i can't read.
>>2608062The alternative is waiting for the JDPON, which is like waiting for the rapture, I don’t have the guns or men to take anyone hostage
>>2608052Every American is fat no matter their weight, your soul has diabetes
>>2608063if I were cpusanon i would start every post with "well," or "I mean" or "it's almost like" and include some random picture from a DC comic. I don't talk like him. Also passive aggressive is not emotionally neutral. Pick one. I live on the opposite side of the country. You're bad at diagnosing but all you losers ever want to do on here is "identify"
<faggot detected<democrat detected<trump supporter detected<jew detected<random namefag i don't like detected<treatler detected<TWister detectedit's the most annoying shit channers do. why have a discussion when you can just make accusations?
>>2608067>sovlnon materialist schizobabble. read lenin you anticommunist child
>>2608069Lenin lived 100 years ago and believed America had a proletariat or even politics at all, I don’t care
>>2608066>i can't do organized violence against the bourgeoisie, my only choice is killing myself in public or waiting for the raptureoh my god just become a christian already if that's how you think about things
>>2608070you hate americans yet you waste your time talking to them
>>2608073Even worse I am one
>>2608051I know you're trolling but this form of 'protest' is extreme narcissistic. Aaron Bushnell was a retard who subjected extreme pain to himself with no results whatsoever. People do not even talk about him so he did not even 'raise awareness', which even the most cringe NGOs atleast manage to do to some degree.
Do not kill yourselves, stupid yanks. You must live to see the day your treat-supply collapses and experience the greatest seethe in history.
>>2608072Christians have more means of fighting capitalism than Marxists or anarchists do
>>2608074the global south wants you to fight your government, not performatively self flagellate for the 10 millionth time
>>2608077What does 'fighting capitalism' even mean if you are not a member of the Vanguard of the Working Class? Donating to Hasan?
>>2608076>Do not kill yourselves, stupid yanks. You must live to see the day your treat-supply collapses and experience the greatest seethe in history.bruh i will fuck off from this country before then, marx willing
Christians willl pray away the commodity form.
>>2608082The pope will fondle the commodity out of the object.
>>2608080Communism is impossible because capitalism is a developmental dead end, only a return to feudal relations and technology is possible once we burn through all the oil
is the united arab emirates global south?
>>2608086It's part of the Global Mid
>>2608077>fighting capitalismchild's understanding. anyone can "fight capitalism." the petty bourgeoisie fight monopoly capitalism and lobby for a return to small busienss supremacy. the anarchists fight all forms of authority and hierarchy without theoretical distinction. the luddites fight the capitalist instruments of production. the aristocracy fought for a return to feudalism. the peasantry fought the emergence of capitalism because it upended their life. the point is to move beyond capitalism, not to simply fight it. Internationalism is not anti-nationalism because it recognizes national liberation struggles. Communism is not
merely "anti-capitalist" it is the real movement to bring society into a post-capitalist mode of production.
The proletariat is useless, just more crap in a hoarder’s house that’s all capitalism is, overaccumulation until the hoard tips over or a fire starts
>>2608089what about turkey
>>2608085>Communism is impossible because capitalism is a developmental dead end, only a return to feudal relations and technology is possible once we burn through all the oilstupidest shit i've ever heard.
>>2608090Not possible, if it was, it would have happened already, you still believe in the biggest lies, time and process
>>2608092Global North and Global South are retarded concepts. They make sense only if you are contrasting Denmark with Congo.
>>2608093No other energy source has the output or consistency needed for our current productive capacity, which you want to increase because you have the mindset of my hoarding grandmother
>>2608096Take the nuke-pill.
>>2608095NATO plus is a cartel, a protection racket, if you’re a citizen you’re a made man
>>2608095>Global North and Global South are retarded conceptswhat is a legitimate concept then
>>2608097If Mali had sovereignty no French would have electricity
>>2608097One more nick nack, one more “project” in this pile that used to be a living room
>>2608094it took 500 years for capitalism to fully emerge. There were maritime medieval merchant's republics as early as the 1300s which gave a inkling of what a post-feudal world order would look like, but they were prototypes of a capitalist society. It was industrialization which brought capitalism fully into existence, albeit with scars of the feudal world order. It may take time for communism to emerge, and yes, we might fail to make it happen, but that doesn't mean it's "impossible" but even more stupid than your total preclusion of "possibility" is your assertion that we are going to regress to "feudal technology." Not all technology that has been invented since feudal times are dependent on fossil fuels. Nor do they need to be. Even when things regress in history, we don't lose entirely the memory of the things that already happened. We might live in the ruins of a more advanced society, but that is a completely different situation than living under feudalism.
>>2608064>I don't see how.Then you think there is a "good side" to american imperialism.
>>2608104We don’t need more, we need less
>>2608098True. Too bad the sentimental yank will not understand.
>>2608104There is no such thing as a process or emergence, the final product is all anything ever is
>>2608107I’m literally the sentimental yank
>>2608106We need much
more. You are a demoraliser. You want to see women dying merely trying to givd birth. You want to see 8 year olds toiling in the fields.
You are trying to break the Wheel of History. It will break your back instead.
The Chagossian will explore Neptune. The Yank will be bitterly, powerlessly nostalgic for his lost treat-paradise.
>>2608105No, I think that there are different factions among the American ruling class that disagree about how to advance imperialist goals.
>>2608108i don't see what your philosophybabble has to do with what I said. Even an LLM would have given a more relevant response than you.
>>2608106from each according to their ABILITY, to each according to their NEED, is MUCH more sustainable than "work most people to death that a handful of people can take private jets between their 5 mansions"
>>2608101That is third worldist nonsense. As if Malians would hoard all the material for themselves and refuse to trade just out of 'sovereignty'.
>>2608117There is no motion and no process, everything has always been this status quo, if it wasn’t, this wouldn’t be the status quo, there’s no such thing as a caterpillar or a pupa, only the moth
>>2608118This ability-need maxim is applicable under communism, which humanity is quite far from. Until then, work, work and work you treat-addicts.
>>2608119Why would they willingly had their resources over to their rapists?
>>2608105>Then you think [shit you didn't say]shadowboxing championship
>>2608125>hand overDo you know what trade is, lead-drinking yank?
>>2608124did i say anything to the contrary
>>2608127It doesn’t exist
>>2608128You juxtaposed the ability-need maxim with current capitalist exploitation and sprinkled in 'sustainability'. This gives the yank audience the impression that you could just replace current capitalism with the ability-need concept
immediately.
We do not disagree, but I hope you can see why I replied that way.
>>2608123ok that's philosophybabble. in the real world you used to be a baby, and one day you will be old, unless you are so stupid you walk into traffic, which you might be.
>>2608130Under the current Mali-France relationship or are you saying trade does not exist as a concept at all in general?!
Yanks speak funny sometimes.
>>2608131>You juxtaposed the ability-need maxim with current capitalist exploitationno i didn't, i was responding to someone who was saying communism was impossible. I was clearly talking about the far away future. holy shit you just want to argue for no reason so you have to make up a context for what I was saying. I obviously understand that there is liability to work under lower stage socialism.
>>2608132He is trolling. Even yanks cannot be that stooopid.
>>2608135Very good then. No I do not want to argue needlessly, I just misinterpreted your angle of attack.
>>2608116You are being chased by the most dangerous type of mod – the anglo-saxon mod. Ot's a fierce predator with a lot of free time.
>>2608114>that disagree about how to advance imperialist goals.Disagreeing on how to advance those goals is how they advance them, making others pick one side or the other is how they advance them, making people believe that if you support the other side enough the other will be kept under control is how both sides keep coming back over and over again. I dont know what else to tell you. Whatever, call the dems if you want, I hope it helps. But this good cop/bad cop dynamic is not a "conspiracy", is just how liberals and fascism operate together.
>>2608138It will be a bitter struggle, but in the end, his severed head will be displayed on top of a coconut tree in Chagos.
For Leftypol to live, the Mods must die. Chagos?
More like chudos, amirite?
>>2608096>No other energy source has the output or consistency needed for our current productive capacity, which you want to increaseread rajani palme dutt's fascism and social revolution, chapter 3, particularly the section titled "the destruction of the productive forces". under capitalism we already OVERPRODUCE more than everyone needs, but don't give it to people if they can't afford it, and then throw it in the dumpster if it goes past its expiration date. there is tremendous and pointless waste under capitalism because we produce more than we need and then don't distribute it, due to the anarchy of production. we could actually feed, clothe, and house everyone ,while producing LESS than we already produce, using something called ECONOMIC PLANNING. you could also slow or even reverse population growth with ECONOMIC PLANNING. you can increase the productivity of each person with TECHNOLOGY and PLANNING
without increasing CONSUMPTION. but this is not PROFITABLE so we don't do it, because our system is rooted in PROFIT rather than PLANNING. The lassalleans wanted let the workers have the total surplus product, but that's fucking stupid, because that is still an unplanned society. a bunch of people who make chairs for a living don't want to drown in chairs just because they made the chairs and therefore own the chairs. that's the lassallean formula. the communist formula involves abolishing the anarchy of production, which is incredibly wasteful. America throws out half it's food,
before it even reaches the consumer. We have no idea how much the consumers throw out, but it's a lot too.
>>2608136I’m entirely serious, time doesn’t exist, there is no process
>>2608146Doesn’t matter, you’re never getting there
After thanking his MAGA base for voting for him in the past election, the elder Trump added, “I just wanted to thank you all, and I hope my son’s doing a good job representing me; otherwise, I’ll have to say ‘You’re fired, Don. You’re fired.’”
“So thank you very much and have a great day. I hope Don makes a great speech. If he doesn’t make a great speech, let me know about it, I’ll give him hell,” the president added.
>>2608105>Then you think there is a "good side" to american imperialism.engels wanted us to annex canada and mexico entirely, smdh. guess we were never good enough
>>2608134Trade does not and has never existed, there’s gifts and rape
>>2608150Marx and Engels were treatlers
>>2608148you didn't read a word of what I said. i hate you ADHD children so much sometimes
>>2608147You watched one of those physics videos where the morons think all points in time exist concurrently and you think you are smart.
I recommend you make better use of your time, like bombing JP Morgan.
>>2608153Engels was a paypig and Marx was his sugarbaby
>>2608151Bait quality has plummeted. Moronic mod sees bait where there is none and yet misses the most obvious ones.
>>2608151This is financial Dworkinism
she suggested all penetrative sex is rape >>2608150Im serious: America should annex Canada. It is not too late. Canada is already in practice an American state. Atleast after annexation, they will get a right to vote in US elections. To those complaining how voting does not do anything, it's not like Canacucks would start a guerilla war.
Vassals and willing colonies must just drop the sham and get annexed by their masters.
>>2608161There is no subjective and there is no possibility, something either is or isn’t and that’s it
>>2608068I did not 'identify' you as CPUSAnon, you wimpy yank. I said you sound like him.
>>2608157I am not now nor have I ever baited
>>2608174Not even mastur?
>>2608171Agree. Which us why I enjoy the way Trump openly treats the Euros like dogs. And the fact that the Euros keep licking the ass of the yanks is proof that they are vassals. To continue believing in an independent EU is no longer defensible.
>>2608162No justice for Puerto Rico, a brother island peoples?
>>2608178Puerto Ricans are like people from La Reunion, they do not want independence. The majority love being 'part' of the powerful master's family and look down on their brown neighbours as 'inferior'.
So fuck them. As far as we are concerned, they are Yanks.
>>2608173i don't but it's irrelevant since I don't make the same arguments he does or do the same things he does. if your intention wasn't to accuse me of being him, then I'm not sure what your goal is with this "conversation"
Any yank who watches Avatar 3 is a counter-revolutionary and will be imemdiately put on the naughty list.
>>2608180puerto rican indepenence guys literally shot up congress in the 50s lol
>>2608183yanks are literally the bad guys in avatar.
>>2608181The goal was to say that you sounded like him. Not every remark has to be a deep analysis, you anti-social cockroach. It was just a quick remark.
>>2608184Everyone and their grandmother was revolutionary in the 50s. Today, Puta Ricans are Yanks. Let them fight for more crumbs from their masters, idgaf.
>>2608185Weird Yank will be moved by Avatar and then go rape in Venezuela. Weird creatures.
>>2608180>The majority love being 'part' of the powerful master's familyAnd who could blame them
>>2608183It's performing poorly compared to the previous trainwrecks. Here's hopin.
>>2608185The entire plot revolves around le noble savage ideology. It's blatant. Disgusting.
No matter where you go, you’re there, no matter what you do it’s you doing it, including suicide
>>2608180>they do not want independencethere was a very recent president who won under the basis of independence. they have been begging for generations to be the 51st state and that has been denied so much, that the population has shifted to independence. that they got what they wanted is another topic.
speaking of which, the US is invading Haiti, from Puerto Rico. "to protect U.S. personnel and facilities", they say.
>U.S. Marine Corps KC-130J reg 167112 taking off from US Base in Ceiba, Puerto Rico, to Port-au-Prince, Haiti. >>2608190Is it just me but 'bad' cgi from decades ago looked better than today's shit?
Like obviously today it is 'objectively' better, but it just looks so 'off'?! Idk how to put it in words. It's not attractive.
>>2608162>Vassals and willing colonies must just drop the sham and get annexed by their masters.Two for one deal
>>2608162>>2608150I would support an American annexation of Canada in a socialist context.
>it's not like Canacucks would start a guerilla warThere unironically might be if the Americans handled the inevitable unarmed unrest poorly.
>>2608197>in a socialist context>amerika and kkkanada never happening, anglos and socialism dont mix
>>2608197I have a friend who is also leaf who took the total opposite position and said he would fight america. can you talk to him?
>>2608197>inevitable unarmed unrestlet's not get ahead of ourselves
>>2608202as in fight america by joining imperialist leaf army
>>2608199The greatest irony about you chagos poster is that your sweeping generalizations, belligerence, and insistence on confrontation is more stereotypically American than anything said or done by any actual Yankee poster except perhaps for Felix.
>>2608197if sanders or aocia reaches to power and annex canada, it's 100% a trap.
>>2608199Humans and socialism cannot mix, proletariat is literally impotent and every Leninist agrees on it, and they’re right
>>2608205I speak the language you fucking animals understand.
To fight the Yank, become the Yank.
>>2608203It's not getting ahead of anything. If you thing there wouldn't at least be demonstrations and unrest then you simply don't understand this country. It may fizzle out if handled correctly but if its met with repression and violence it could snowball.
>>2608205If my homeland was ethnically cleansed for a US base I’d wish death on every American too, hell I do it and am American
>>2608207Agree.
There have been only 5 human beings in a morass of chimps in history: Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao.
>>2608208>To fight the Yank, become the Yank.You need to start treatmaxxing ASAP. Order some doordash and funkopops RIGHT JOW
>>2608186>We're just weirdly hostile for no reason in every interaction, you anti-social cockroachlol, the irony
>>2608209Oh ho ho big bad canacuck will get angry
You wont do shit, you were a slut for britain and after ww2 youve been a loyal slut for america
>>2608209Canadians don’t even own guns or bombs, canadian whiskey isn’t even high enough proof for a molotov
>>2608213He’s hostile because he was forced into refugee status by you, I, and everyone else the American government represents
>>2608213Saying you sound like CPUSA is hostility now? Are all yanks drama queens?
>>2608214Cool it with the mysoginy
>>2608209America annexing Canada would be an incredible political event. I'm just saying that it might be too early to say that it would be done in a way that guaranteed unrest. What if was preceded by a deep internal crisis in Canada is all I'm pointing out
>>2608219Fuck off, another schizo seeing misogyny where there's none
You cool off with your tacit approval for rape and murder you yank donkey
>>2608222Men can be “sluts” but everyone knows it’s an anti woman slur
>>2608223No. It is an anti-slut slur.
>>2608004Why is this even an issue?
>>2608223Would you prefer whore? Or canacuck would mayhaps prefer 'harlot'?
Notice how the American sets the PC trap. It carefully lays down the "slutshaming" device, ensuring that in the near future the unsuspecting prey (foreign communist) will step into it and then hr sognals to the anglo-saxon jannies that the ban can proceed. Since the anglo-saxon hivemind loses rationality when the PC trap is employed everybody will be satisfied while another foreign communist is sacrificed at the idpol altar.
This is the story of how leftypol became burger dominated, btw.
>>2608225>>2608227The supposed anti zionist visiting and congratulating zionists and appointing zionists to his cabinet in the world capital of zionism outside Tel Aviv matters
>>26082251. It is not an issue to you because you see no problem in bowing to racist mafia entities.
2. It is an issue to others because they are under the illusion that Zohran has any power to change anything in Israel-American relations.
>>2608228Exactly. They will never ban me openly for the posts that actually infuriated them.
They will always go for petty shit.
>>2608228I’m not reporting chagos anon, you can describe subordinate or relations of domination without resorting to misogynistic language
>>2608231None of your actual points offend me
Anyone who reports anything is a snitch
>>2608209>>2608209> Here one sees how necessary the feverish speculative spirit of the Americans is for the rapid development of a new country (if capitalist production is taken as a basis); and in ten years this sleepy Canada will be ripe for annexation — the farmers in Manitoba, etc., will demand it themselves. Besides, the country is half-annexed already socially — hotels, newspapers, advertising, etc., all on the American pattern. And they may tug and resist as much as they like; the economic necessity of an infusion of Yankee blood will have its way and abolish this ridiculous boundary line — and when the time comes, John Bull will say “Amen” to the matter.Engels.
He missed the time frame, but I am confident that a US aggressive policy of annexing Canada won't meet the resistance you think it would.
This trap is brought to you by the same idiots who removed from our dictionary the term 'prostitute' and now have to call them 'sex workers' or else you are problematic like those dead whyte men – Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc.
>>2608233It matters not that you dont. A cockroach in your Anglo cabal will.
This is an imageboard where 'kill yourself, retard, whore, rape' are routinely hurled at people. To obsess over 'slut' is infantile at best and fed-behaviour at worst.
What’s the best possible way to politicize a suicide?
>>2608243Do not kill yourself you imbecile. No one will give a shit, there is literally no way to politicise it.
You
will find a nice chick with whom you
will have good sex and love life.
>>2608245I’m already in relationship, a good one too, it doesn’t fucking help
>>2608246Do you work? If so, what?
>>2608246Do not kill yourself. Leftypol will get more entertaining, I promise. Stick around.
>>2608242You did. Several times in different places.
>>2608250An utterly pointless act. No one should emulate Bushnell, ever.
>>2608247Steel manufacturing, it’s a good job tool, the problem is no matter what I’m doing it’s me doing it, no matter where I go, I’m there
>>2608252Are you on konstant ketamine? Cuz that seems like disassociation
>>2608256Never done ket, seems interesting but I don’t want the bladder issues, my drugs of choice are caffeine, cannabis, alcohol, psychedelics, and cocaine, that’s also my order of preference. I’m not dissociating, I feel bad because I’m me and there’s no fixing that.
>>2608259SSRIs fucking suck, terrible drug
>>2608262take some shrooms and call it a day. if you don't kys mid trip that means you wanted to live all along.
>>2608261Stop all the drugs. Then re-evaluate the sentence ' I’m not dissociating, I feel bad because I’m me and there’s no fixing that.'
>>2608264It’s a sentence I agree with far more while sober
>>2608265What do you hate about being you?
Notice how Chagomao doesn't want an american comrade dead. You knew this all along, he is a softie under that confrontative armor. What a bitch.
>>2608263Maybe next week, been drinking and eating too much for the shroom spirits to do their work
>>2608267I only want imperialism dead. Nothing more, nothing less.
>>2608266This body, this mind, this language, this country I’m a product of no matter where I move or what language I theoretically could learn
>>2608270Anon killing himself COULD theoretically start a domino effect where in the end every American commits sudoku. It's a possibility that should not be taken lightly. Even if only 80% of Americans commit sudoku because anon committed sudoku that would mean an immense blow to imperialism.
>>2608271Yeah no don't kill yourself
Have a cup of coffee
>>2608269>drinking too muchwell there's your problem. quit alcohol
>>2608271wow the JDPON reeducation program on here made you a self-hating wreck instead of an anti imperialist warrior? who could have seen this coming?
>>2608274I gotta figure out how to use alcohol as an ego killing drug the way Aghoris do
>>2608277I was a self hating wreck long before any psuedopoliticization
>>2608277Wow, burger anon is a VICTIM of thirdies cyber bullying?!?!
How unexpected!!! >>2608272>Even if only 80% of Americans commit sudoku because anon committed sudoku that would mean an immense blow to imperialism.the other imperialist countries (Japan, Canada, Australia, UK, EU) would love that
>>2608277You just have to shove your petty shit into this
Narcissistic yank has to be make it all about his pet grievance
>>2608272If only the demon from the Smile movies was real
>>2608282the cyber bullying would just be typical channer edgelord shit if it didn't pretend to be communist reeducation.
>>2608283And would then proceed to plunder the carcass for themselves
>>2608278Aghoris are disgusting unproductive retards, you do not want to emulate them
I would unironically genocide the aghoris if i were the dictator of india
"me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me"
This is how Americans sound to nonbarbarian ears.
>>2608284do you drink a lot of alcohol, chagosposter?
>>2608290whoever inherits da powah will become the same in time. don't hate the player, hate the game.
>>2608289Productivity is overrated, we produce and accumulate all for what? It’s the disease of hoarding
>>2608291A few beers now and then
My body cannot tolerate much alcohol before i start vomitting like a bitch, so I never drink a lot
>>2608294>Productivity is overrated,Genocidal idiocy
>>2608287i think it might be the mode of production that is the problem then, and not which nationality is currently the most privileged under the mode of production.
>>2608293Hating the player
is the game. Michael Jordan was a psychopath.
>>2608296Cool it with the misogyny, you cunt
>>2608296I don't drink at all. Cheers. The less the better.
>>2608296There’s better drugs and better drugs for you, the main advantages alcohol has is availability, variety, and social acceptance.
>>2608298Is wanting a clean, livable house genocidal idiocy? America is a hoarder’s house
>>2608305>Is wanting a clean, livable house genocidal idiocy? America is a hoarder’s housesee:
>>2608146 >>2608303Nah im not getting in any drugs.
From 2017 to 2024, I smoked weed all day every single day. It ruined my 20s as i was always high, ate only junk, never exercised and decreased my socialisation time severely. Thankfully I managed to completely stop for a year and a half now.
>>2608306Aghoris gotta go. And there are a few other groups in India which a dictator has to hit hard on. I say this out of unconditional love for the Indian people and eternal India.
>>2608309wow chagos, sounds like you were a little treatler in your 20s
I was actually the same, but have been completely clean for 6 years now >>2608308>clean, livable houseThis anon will be a Malthusian this time next year.
>>2608209Sabocat is going to feel actual disgust with his fellow Canadians when they don't have any type of resistance and just accept turning into Americans
Only the mildly autistic and those suffering from glaucoma benefit from marijuana, thank god I’m the former
>>2608317Damn, it's a sect? why did he talk about it like it was a whole ass ethnic group?
>>2608315These backward animals are infinitely worse than Tibetans ever were.
Out of 1.4billion indians, a revolutionary government must have a quota of about 500k executions which they will be allowed to carry out (without giving excessive explanation to the western NGO) in the first 5 years to cleanse this old country of its backwardness. Education alone is not enough, some just deserve to die.
>>2608319You see im not a Yank nazi. I do not believe in wiping off ethnicities. But willingly backwards mytics will be mercilessly wiped out.
>>2608319It's a monastic idiocy where they live off from mooching from the superstitious proles. It is parasitic. Little work camp would fix them.
>>2608321well you confused me by saying genocide when you were talking about a backwards sect. imo killing all scientologists or falun gong is not a genocidel ol.
The Kashmiri clergy too would suffer quite a lot under me. And needless to say, all indian godmen (Sadhguru etc) will be sent to a gulag, and the slightest resistance will be met with a bullet.
Anti-zionism is the worst product of zionism.
Western white chicks who come to Goa for sex orgies but pass it off as 'tantric yoga' will be sentenced to 10 years in prison. In disgusting prisons with NO treats.
>>2608300honestly idek that saying originated with jordan. you might be more yank than me, "spiritually"
>prisons with NO treats
madman
>>2608326Well if by anti-zionism you are looking exclusively at Mohammed Hijab, yeah. But that is your fault for focusing on the cringe looneys and not on the reasonable comrades.
Methinks you focus on the cringe precisely in order to shit on anti-zionism.
The chagossian sees through hasbara, specially hasbara of such low quality.
>>2608332>>2608327>>2608325>>2608321>>2608320Chairman Chagos I've been following your teachings very closely and am enlightened by your great ideas. Would you help out an inferior comrade by giving me the top 5 list of books a true chagosian must read?
Thank you sensei
>>2608334>>2608334What the fuck is a "raloaf"? Sorry, english is not my first language
>>2608338Imagine a meatloaf but worse
Mods, permaban chagos.
>>2608339So notting into a loaf makes a nutraloaf? Why you feed prisoners sperm in america?
And I thought the whole soap dropping prison thing was gay
I really hope to god my hysr stock investments pay off. Ive been researching the negative side of hydrogen and from what Im seeing the issue is transportation and storage (logistics)
Hysr is solar panels so it could help with the logistic issue (solar panels can be placed anywhere near a water source).
But its still risky.
Well If i become a millionare from this, I will probably help fund communist parties
>>2608340The snitch logged in.
>>2608277what a waste of dubs on such a cry baby
>>2608342Mods, permaban this one doxxing.
>>2608346I only lose less than 300 bucks if my investments fail, so its worth it. If hydrogen suceeds I will unironically become a millionare
its worth the risk
>>2608340You shityank would rather devote 73638 threads discussing Plattner-Zohran slop, and whether the ultra-fascist republican is preferable to the hyper-fascist democrat than engage in
real proletarian discourse. There is no shame in being a liberal, no need to be closeted. Stop living in bad faith.
>>2608333I dont really read. Just open any volume of Lenin's collected works and select any chapter which looks interesting to you. It does not have to be in order.
>>2608349What’s the point? You’re still you if you have a million dollars
>>2608351You haven't read shit and you've reached such high levels of enlightenment? Truly miraculous. Communism must be coded into your genes and by communism I mean hating americans!
>>2608354I have read, but very little compared to comrades here. So I cannot claim to be a scholar by any means.
I know you are being sarcastic btw >>2608352I can transfer the money to high yield savings account and then live on the interest. And then I pretty much dont need to work, anymore.
I want to escape the necessity of work
>>2608356Nah, just messin with ya. You a good lad. Fuck anglos, for real.
>>2608357You’ll still be empty on the inside
>>2608357>I want to escape the necessity of workFinally an honest usapoller
>>2608360yes but I will be empty without being forced to do painful boring and banal labor. So I call that a win.
>>2608357>I want to escape the necessity of workJust start a podcast with friends or something. If it worked for chapo and cumtown it might work for you too
>>2608362Oh no dont get me wrong, im still willing to work. Its just I want to do things that I want too. Not be forced to do a job that i hate so in order to survive
>>2608352>>2608360holy anti-materialism
>>2608368I don’t give a fuck
>>2608366Anything you do for love you’ll lose the passion for once it’s a job or a stream of revenue
Even if you lived to see communism established you would never be happy, no one is, it’s all so fucking useless
>>2608375
Fuck doctors and nurses, klansmen, the lot of them
>>2608374The only meaning in life you can find is struggle. If you struggle hard and long enough you might even see the downfall of your enemies, which is super rewarding. Otherwise it's meh. Art is cool. Science doing some scifi shit is p cool. But life, in general: meh
>>2608366working capitalists are still exploiters. I met a MAGA petty bourgeois semi-proletarian who owned a food truck in new york city who had semi-retired in the domestik periphery, working in kitchen full time for health insurance. He had same petty-bourgeois aspiration as you.
That is why we scoff at amerikans who lie that their pleas for healthkare are proletarian in essence. They just want more treats like you and that guy
>>2608379Yeah it’s better to be dead, best to have never been born
>>2608380>petty-bourgWhen I said work, I didnt mean petty bourg
>>2608380That's nice and all but was the food any good?
>>2608381Dunno, man. There's literally no escaping this world. Your remains get recycled into nature and your atoms will be soon part of other animals and people. Sure, another you won't come together from your old atoms, but whatever was left of you gets reintegrated into life.
So I'm thinking this current assembly of atoms that is me is a once in a universe uniqueness in a way, however wretched or lame, so I wanna see how far I can push this assembly in life, even if I pretty much hate it. That's all I can do before inevitably ending up in a worm's belly in a mole's belly in a cat's belly. Seems more dignified than just offing myself.
>>2608380The plea for healthcare is detached from the Treat Question. Yes, obviously the shityank will uss the money saved from free healthcare on funko pops like the deranged animal that he is, but that is not the reason not to push for free healthcare. It's like saying you wont give the homeless 5 dollars because you know he gonna spend it on drugs
>>2608390At least drugs are cool, what’s the government gonna spend my money on? Another F35?
>>2608388Christ it’s really worse than I thought
>>2608344>muh dubs on a slow board>you're cryingcrying with laughter at you broken records
>>2608392My biggest fear would be some kind of cyclicality of the universe where even after heat death occours the exact same universe is born with you popping up around 1990 anno domingo and you relive everything exactly as before without having any kind of connection or knowledge of the myriad of previous yous in previous universes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universeIt also motivates me to do better. Because if the prisonhouse is not just this life but a cosmic one, a never ending prison, then I might as well try to enjoy this shit against all odds.
>>2608403if "you" happens a billion times it ain't "you." "You" only happen this time.
>>2608399Boycotts are "I AM REFUSING SUCH TREATS" praxis.
>>2608399instead of helping Venezuela, you browse the CPUSA website for cringe
>>2608404If the cyclicality is completely deterministic there's no difference.
>>2608338It's "Nutra-Loaf"
I assume it's short for "Nutrition-Loaf"
>>2608403That’s just more suicide fuel
>>2608403are you suggesting the exact same atoms that was you get rebuilt in each new universe? Because thats…hmmm
>>2608410See you in the next cycle, in this exact thread then.
>>2608413It’s all so fucking useless
>>2608411It’s the same universe collapsing and reforming over and over
>>2608411Not just me. Everything. Stars, blackholes, that asshole from work, hamburgers, funkopops, everything. The same history, the same fate..
>>2608416>>2608417HOLY FUCK THAT IS GRIM
>>2608406The Party told me to help venezuela by supprting pro worker democrats. Im doing all i can.
>>2608418It’s how it feels, it’s gonna always feel this way because that’s how it’s always felt when no distractions are around
>>2608403Honestly this makes me happy because this means I dont trully die.
Im afraid of the void more so than life itself
>>2608417>>2608416that's too arbitrary. if you really want me to join you in this pointless philosophizing, it would make much more sense for every possible universe with every possible set of physical laws to exist, because that would make "everything" truly "everything" and a real counterbalance to "nothing" it came from and returns to. For things to "just be a certain way because it is" without there being an equal and opposite situation counterbalancing it is utterly arbitrary. Nothing is forever, but Everything is temporary. If everyhthing is truly cyclical, then that means everything needs to happen eventually, including universes with different physical laws than this one has, including universes infinitely more horrifying than this one, and universes infinitely better to live in than this one. But mostly it will be universes with no life at all.
>>2608414There's no intentionality or practicality in the universe, except in the conscious domain. And even that consciousness is just an afterthought of what already happened with you fooling yourself into believing in your own agency. We are little ants crawling on a big bright FUCK YOU sign which is our universe, and we follow its electronic currents around en masse because that's what ants do for no particular reason.
>>2608423You have adapted the prisoner mentality. Many such cases.
>>2608422>that’s how it’s always felt when no distractions are aroundyour despair at the uselessness of it all is a distraction in and of itself
please report to
>>>/dead/ >>2608429That board should be listed, it’s the only honest one
>>2608425Paralllel multiverse is gay and basically a projection of postmodernist cultural experience onto physics.
Just saying. It's Marvel "physics."
>>2608214>lecturing people about the mood, culture, and attitude of their country (which you've never been to)Truly you are an American in your heart if not by birth. You fantasize about the deaths of Americans, but first you mist kill the Yankee in your head.
>>2608431it's an easter egg and it's more fun that way
>>2608434In a sense but no one replies there, can’t get the (you) dopamine hits (only thing worth living for)
>>2608379Struggle is pointless if there is nothing to struggle for. Winning may not be the goal. You will probably lose and even if you win you're left asking what you got out of it. It's not a calculation of some motive. If you see what made struggle worth anything, you see that struggle was always irrelevant. You will be made to struggle over things that shouldn't have been a question, yet here we are.
Some things you only see when you've seen enough of this world. I'm getting old. The things I will fight for are few, and I fight for them mostly because I've seen the alternative. Young people can see these things and know a few things they fight for, but the overriding habit is to teach the young to throw their lives away for some nihilistic daggotry. Then they'll be forced to die and suffer for that daggotry even when there is nothing for ur. It's all calculated so that you can't do anything about those who never have to struggle and laugh that they make you do this.
The good news is that when you see enough, you embrace the true nihilism. We do not live for a purpose assigned by another. Even in a society where your job and social status are assigned at age 10 or earlier, living for that is stupid and sad. The only thing that society can do is make the lower orders struggle over bullshit.
I learned to live with little, shun human contact, and seek the same for everyone. Fighting for this shit should not be encouraged. When I was younger in my twenties, people who are my age now in their 40s told me the same thing. Since I was never going to amount to much it was very easy for me to accept this advice. The people who were told they were something special and that they were the worthies aren't doing so well right now. The promises that you have something given to you or a reward to win are all moonshine. It is a cosmic struggle to work against these people and that is the last struggle and only struggle really worth fighting. That's where the sad farce of capitalism really started.
The real value but I live for is that I had the freedom to study this on my own. Freedom will never be given to you by decree or some personal virtue. It was given to me by a simple fact. That fact is that no matter what anyone says, I'm going to write and I'm going to read and I have no reason to believe that it should be the other way. This is a society needs to whip and scourge me to make me accept this alien idea that nobody likes, it says something about the sad fate of humanity. I don't have to struggle very hard to do what I do. If you're struggling to read letters on a page or struggling to keep a written record you aren't doing it well. The smarter way is to fight for land and make the lives of those who transgress your land as difficult as possible. The rest I believe will happen or you will die.
If your vision is a collective one, that is pursued because many like you want the same thing and no reason to work at odds with each other. If those people don't exist, and your assumptions about humanity are based of big lies, you're only hurting yourself. But, those who decide what your life will be, who never have to struggle, will find they cannot share their world. We down here can share and find that very helpful. Those who dole out privileges and status to do this to us never build anything and do not want that. They want the exact opposite. Those who did this to the world will win. They always have in one way or another. No w id that brings any happiness or purpose.
The thread has become completely anti materialist
>>2608441welcome to usapol
>>2608416It makes more sense than the multiverse idiocy because we have experience of our universe. We know this universe *can be*. It's one added step to say *only this universe can be*. Simply, the laws of physics can manifest only in such a manner against the backdrop of nothingness. But then the same reason that gave birth to our universe will remain after our universe ends, hence…. *It must be* the same again and again and again and again and again on a never ending cosmic timeline.
>>2608441We don’t fucking care, we don’t live in material reality, we live in the simulacrum
>>2608443nah, that's lopsided.
>>2608444what if we are living in a videogame and when we die we get out of the simulation
>>2608448Only way to know is to kill yourself
>>2608438Idk man another reading is that you are a coward.
>>2608444>>2608448Secular christianity.
>Heaven = exiting the simulacrumLame. There's no exit. You rot in here with the rest of us.
>>2608451but how would you know if you are living in a simulation or not, though
>>2608451Only NATO plus countries are the simulacrum
>>2608443The multiverse is some theosophical daggotry. It comes about because physics looks at still models of the universe, rather than the reality that physical objects are inherently moving and forceful objects. If physics dealt with no moving objects, it would create very different expectations about time and causality than those we experience with most things. We can observe that which is no moving or that which is eternal or nonlocal. We cannot treat those things as if they interface with the world of moving objects that we know, without some caveats to make the models consistent.
The controversies from bad physics disappear if you get rid of that force arrow you imagine in the model and stop trying to quantize it. You instead accept that particles and groupings of those particles move on their own accord.
>>2608452A simulation would involve lessening in content and interconnections and causes and effects what is being simulated, while you as a 'player' carrying over the same capacity to reason from the "real" world, allowing you to connect the dots that something is incomplete, fake, contradictory, implausible, etc. (This is why social rejects like the theory. Also why Christians like the idea of Heaven. It's cope fuel. My real life starts when I'm dead! Woohoo! – your real life sucks, man.)
But take Plato's cave metaphor. I think that's how much real simulation can get. They exited the cave, but not the world.
>>2608450If that makes me a coward I do not care. I'm not here to impress anyone. If you value bravery because you think it will impress others, I don't know what to tell you.
I don't think I'm particularly cowardly though. I've seen cowardice and I've lived through cowardice. You're not going to be brave against what's coming for you. For me though, when this beast comes for me I'm just going to laugh and scoff. I may be a coward but I will not respect any part of this. Of course I'm most likely outcome is that I die alone in my sleep or suddenly in my home and that will be the end of me. I'm not thinking of any of that in my final moments if I can help it. I think a great many people have already checked out mentally and will come to the same conclusion. This shir is not worth any consideration. I will fight and struggle purely against the idea that I would respect or should respect any part of this, on very simple principles.
Now you say should I struggle for freedom for the good of humanity and all that? I can tell you if that is your goal respecting this sort of sick society is the worst way to go about it.
>>2608460You aren't brave for others. You are a coward for yourself.
>>2608461I'm replying to me this sentence.
>I'm not here to impress anyone.I'm not brave because I wish to impress. I'm brave because that's the version of myself I can live with.
>>2608402Diamat would be perfectly compatible with a cyclical deterministic 'mono'verse.
the big bang is fundamentally unmaterialist
>>2608460It's fascinating that you are stuck in the swamp of having to constantly compare yourself to others even when you are trying to prove how independent you are of the rest. You become free when you get rid of this entirely. Every individualist is a collectivist in denial, struggling with an impossibility. Collectivism offers me the chance to lose my rigid sense of self. I don't have to bother to compare myself to them because I'm just a nobody among billions. And even if I become somebody by chance, struggle, or accident, I don't want to think about my image and all that prisoner shit. I'm a process, not a portrait.
Vance talks about Fuentes in this article. The TLDR is he's bad but Leftists are even worse
https://archive.ph/ptyxj>>2608470That attitude is the most important pillar of fascism.
>>2608467thanks for your opinion. the universes is expanding independent of it
>>2608467You have to become formalistic to untangle yourself from matters of matter and nothingness. I like to think that something had to become because Nothing simply can not be on its "own" without contradicting itself. If there would be only nothing that would be everything. For an empty set to be you need a set with content. If you'd truly have a single empty set, it couldn't be empty.
IMO we exist so that nothingness can be.
>>2608467Come up with an alternative material explanation for Cosmic Microwave Background radiation
right fucking now! >>2608476The quintessence
>>2608481explain what that means
>>2608475that is also hegel's departure. you have returned to hegel unironically.
>>2608472but felix told me fuentes is to the left of CPUSA because at least fuentes agrees america must be destroyed and CPUSA does not… uh… who's right?
>>2608487I think the model is consistent with materialism, however seemingly paradoxical.
>>2608467Define materialist.
>>2608482The only reason this is happening is because they can smell blood in the water. Trump clearly has dementia (he's taking meds and receives frequent cognitive tests and MRIs), he's not going to be the head of the party for much longer. He might very well survive to the end of his term but he won't be in any shape to run again, despite all the talk about a third term. So now they're scrambling to define the party's future.
>>2608497I agree. I wonder how long till fox news picks up the chatter about Trump's inevitable fucking off
>>2608482didn't she used to say spic some years ago or am i misremembering
>>2608501who cares whether she says slurs or not when she actively and enthusiastically supports the genocide of palestinians through action, rhetoric, and donation.
I think protons do decay.
The last moments of the universe are like this.
Two protons left in the entirety of space. The second last decays. This inevitably means the collapse of space itself. The only "space holder" is the last proton, "around it" infinite emptyness. The entire universe is this last proton. As its predecessor it starts to decay, but since this would mean that true Nothingness becomes, which can not be, it explodes into the big bang.
The same fucking big bang.
And then billions of years later here are we (again) posting about Trump. Fast forward billions of years, proton decay. Big bang. The same.
P R I S O N
>>2608504You're right of course but we should be aware of divisions within a reactionary camp.
>>2608505Unfortunately that's not even close. Assuming protons do decay, that will happen somewhere around 10^40 years, which is several orders of magnitude shorter than the time it takes for black holes to evaporate to the point that it's essentially instantaneous by comparison
>>2608504what have you done to stop the palestinian genocide today?
>>2608507Wait, so the last particles will be photons from evaporating black holes?
>>2608510Photons and stray electrons and positrons, yes
>>2608511Both positrons and electrons decay, but photons don't, right? So the final stage of the universe after all the supermassive blackholes have evaporated are just photons traveling in all directions at the speed of light, never to hit another particle?
>>2608436Parallel multiverses is only a possible solution. There is still a big chance something else is going on that we don't understand yet.
>>2608482Nazis trully are radical liberals
what's new in the free world
>>2608555Simply having a wonderful Christmas time
ALL THIS COSMIC DISCUSSION IS MAKING ME FEEL DEPRESSED
>>2608004Visiting a grave doesn't mean anything.
>>2608552if there's only 1universe with 1 set of physical laws that's ultimately very arbitrary. Everything we thought there was only 1 of turned out to have multiples.
>>2608559yeah it's all petty booj, lumpen, and booj.
>>2608579>that's ultimately very arbitrary.It's not arbitrary when humans only experience one.
>Everything we thought there was only 1 of turned out to have multiples.So what? Just declaring parallel universes true because it's an easy solution means possibly missing out on finding a better solution. Currently the evidence isn't strong enough to support it definitively.
The USA is fascist.
>>2608567You are not me. Dont tell me i need to star using a tripcode now ffs.
>>2608600>It's not arbitrary when humans only experience one.it's arbitrary in the sense of only some possibilities getting realized. It would imply a fundamentally unstable, lopsided, and asymmetrical reality.
>>2608620I was just fuckin w/ you. I will delete that one so people understand.
>>2608620which theme is that btw. Midnight?
>>2608624Yes. I was just trying it out yesterday. I think the best are: Dark, Dark Spooky, Demain classic, and Midnight.
People who use the 'fruity' ones, I will never trust.
Fukuyama was right. History has ended. All that remains are varying forms of liberalism.
>>2608461>>2608462Cry me a fucking river. Always about me me me. If you were selfless you wouldn't be this focused on self-aggrandizement. But hey I've only seen this for about 25 years of being adult aged. It ends the same every time and the person doing it outs himself as a wanker. (It is always a male.) Some of them eventually drop the bullshit but the ones that don't become raging idiots that can be deployed to make life mildly miserable until the real shit can be sent. None of this posturing makes the life of anyone better and it certainly doesn't help your own. Id rather be a coward than be that. The ones who are brave don't need to make these excuses. I'm not one of them, but then I do my small part to bring a little happiness into the world. At least I can genuinely care for the suffering of the people. I find it sick that so many brazenly lie about these things. You sure as hell are no Lenin.
>>2608468Did I say anything about the glory of the individual uygha? Telling someone to abase themselves before the collective-as-abstraction, which is always a way to get people to slavishly follow a ruling class, has nothing to do with a cooperative community. It is a product of this nazified society where genuine cooperation became impossible to fathom.
Every time I see this type of wank, I think of German fascists shrieking like retards. It's always something like that. The decent have to learn to detect that by smell and find ways to speak that are immune to this daggotry.
But no, I don't follow the cult of the self. Most people don't. This ideological version of collectivism has always been for the cult of the self. They will shriek for basement but none of them even understand why a church gathering is valued. Invariably when such an idea comes up they revert to public relations ghoulishness, until they get a dose of ideology that affirms their indulgent belief about society.
>>2608638>>2608649The discourse, ladies and gentleman.
Anyway there's a lot of cringe cosmological pseudoscience and the shortest answer to that, one every serious investigator of the matter will find, is that every theory for the public is wrong. You all write about a fantasy universe and insist it can't be wrong. There were far more likely answers to the observations made at the time in early 20th century. You do know that the big bang is a myth right?
>>2608658>You do know that the big bang is a myth right?We know the universe is expanding, we can observe the cosmic microwave background everywhere, there is a redshift of distant galaxies, proving that they are all moving away from each other. What are you talking about, anon?
>>2608673
>none of you said is a proof for the Big Bang.
We know the universe underwent a rapid expansion from a singularity, that is literally all the big bang is. All our current evidence points to it.
>>2608664none of what you said is a proof for the Big Bang.
1. Big Bang is not backed by any evidence.
2. The Copenhagen Interpretation is more religion than science.
3. As long as we have ZERO evidence for dark matter and dark energy, we cannot read too much into the 'predictions' of our cosmological models.
>>2608675bruh is deleting his posts 🙄
>>2608675>We know the universe underwent a rapid expansioncorrect
> from a singularityincorrect. The singularity is conjectured (and erroneously taken as fact) by extrapolating the expansion data into the past. Any good scientist knows one must deal very, very carefully when 'extrapolating' and not 'interpolating'.
>>2608677fuck off gen z kiddo
learn a thing or two before being a smug online
>>2608679the singularity concept is still the prevailing model because we have evidence that the universe had an extremely dense and hot early state, even if the singularity is taken by extrapolating from what we do know, rather than having direct evidence. Obviously we physically can't look further back in time than the CMB, which is estimated to have been emitted about 380K years after the "big bang." The universe was probably invisible before recombination. If we a train traveling along some tracks, we can extrapolate roughly how long ago it left the nearest station behind it by its speed and what direction it's moving even if we cannot prove it 100%
>>2608680Wow an emoji and the term "bruh" really made you upset huh? I'm old than Gen Z. Not that it really matters.
>>2608579This 'one' you speak of is literally everything.
>>2608638>>2608649For someone so oppinionated you sure as hell come off insecure, almost giving the impression that you know you are not doing well, even for yourself.
>>2608692it's everything we have evidence of. we used to think our sun was the only sun until the 1700s, and we thought our galaxy was the only galaxy until the 1920s. our universe being the only universe might just be the conclusion we're stuck with due to the limitations of our current means of observing reality.
>>2608579Think well about what you wrote, yank. Think hard and long.
>>2608686>extremely dense and hot early stateyeah that we have proof for. But not the singularity. Before that early state we might as well say that the universe was contracting into that dense state before expanding again and assert that it is periodic
There is no reason to assert that the Big Bang
was . That is religion, not science.
>>2608696We don't have and most likely will never have means to observe different realities (universes). I fail to see how the theory of the multiverse isn't therefore being stuck on religious grounds…
>>2608697if we see a train going 60mph in a direction away from a train station that it is 60 miles away from, it is safe to say that it left that train station an hour ago. We may not know for sure. It may have stopped 5 times, reversed back and forth a bunch of times. It may have been assembled on the tracks in the middle of nowhere. But the best evidence we have is that it left the train station an hour ago. To introduce another hypothesis is to introduce things we can't even extrapolate. That is why they extrapolate a singularity, because there is no evidence that the universe was doing a bunch of random stuff other than expanding from a single location.
>>2608702>We don't have and most likely will never have means to observe different realities (universes).meh. if you told someone 1000 years from now we would be capable of what we are now they would have thought you mad.
>>2608704this was meant for
>>2608700 >>2608700Every evidence points to the big bang having occoured. Physicists tried to counter it with alternative models – all turned out to be having less explanatory powers, or outright in conflict with the emerging observable universe.
Nobody is against alternative explanations/models. It's just that they don't fit as well as the current model.
>>2608707>1000 years from nowmeant to say 1000 years ago. i need sleep.
>>2608563I haven't had talks like these since the early 2010s. takes me back. I've been so focused on the daily and local shit I almost lost sight of it.
>>2608707Everything "we have" are knowledge of this world, tools for examination from this world (built from, part of the world itself), brains of this world thinking about this world. If the multiverse even existed we'd lack even the physical laws necessary to observe another universe with completely different physical laws. Not to mention the obv problems of 'where' and 'how' (are these multiverses).
Multiversetards cope by sating that they might even collide into one another, but that seems to prove that the entire notion is useless. If we could collide into another multiverse, that collision would be the universe.
In ontological terms the multiverse proposes the most radical alterity at the level of the universal. There's everything - and radicaly different other everythings. The gigacope about "there's a universe out there where everything is the same except cats fart rainbows" is just Marvel slop as I told you.
>>2608717>If we could collide into another multiverse, that collision would be the universe.that's just semantic. it's like pointing out atoms aren't actually indivisible despite that being the etymology of the term. Wow we coined a term for "everything" before we found out there was "more than everything" just like we coined a term for the "smallest thing" before we found out there were "smaller things."
>>2608676The purpose of their patently insane declarations is to force everyone to be skeptical of everything, most of all themselves. No one outside of popsci takes any of this seriously. If they shout enough, no one will ask questions when the next big lie is told. I don't know how anyone believes in it but there are people who want the power of Santa.
>>2608727Things that can interact are of the same ontic order. And we haven't found any evidence of another universe. If we did it's alterity would be questionable at best. If it's "pretty much the same stuff but more" there's no reason to call it anything but the universe. If it's radically different, it is condemned to be unobservable and uninteractable, which is to say inconsequential to us.
Your multiverse is either doomed to stay eternally in the purely theoretical ground or to be automatically included into what we call the universe.
Why do you want it to be real so much, btw? Smells of ideology to me.
Is there a multiverse where you don't suck as much? Does that give you false hope?
kentrell is sleeping, kayleigh is going for her morning run
WTF IS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD
By making grand declarations on things they don't know, they destroy considerable knowledge about things we do know, like planet earth and it's immediate vicinity.
>>2608729>No one outside of popsci takes any of this seriously.I'm p sure 99% of physicists accept the Bigus Bangus. There are currently no better explanations.
>>2608733Faggotry is happening my friend.
>>2608734What you are saying is that the multiverse for you is luke God for Christians? If I don't believe in it I'm evil and destroying Earth?
>>2608735Most physicists don't touch this steaming shit with a ten foot pole. They answer real questions. A few charlatans are prompted in the schools to mock the kids.
>>2608737 it's way more retarded than the Christian belief in God.
>>2608733We aufhebening totality. Get in, loser.
>>2608738True. 99.9999% of physics does not give a shit whether the Big Bang was or was not.
This is left for the popsci-types and the modern popes.
>>2608709You are confusing the current cosmological model with the big bang phenomenon. The Big Bang is a completely unnecessary addition. You can just say we have knowledge up to that early stage of the universe and that's it. To extrapolate in such chaotic circumstances and reach such wild conclusions, and to insist on its veracity is narcissism from a select group of illustrious physicists.
Mathematicians consider singularities to be problems. Physicists decided to elevate singularities as their God.
>>2608704We see trains communting between station all the time. We have a wealth of data concerning trains, which eases any assumption we make about them.
We have only one observable universe with its one set of data. Extrapolation in this case is immature adventurism.
Im increasingly realizing the source of the strangest arguments of marxism comes from dialetics.
offtopic but why are a lot of humans so stupid. Its frustrating me. Why is the human species so idiotic
>>2608753most humans by definition are of a normal I.Q. distribution
>>2608763then that means the average human autism score is idiotic or still problematic
>>2608765youre not quite understanding
in any sample, the average cannot be lesser than what is generally given in quantity, so by definition, the average person cannot be stupid, but only "average".
you can say that the average is too low, but intelligence on this scale is still relative to distribution.
>>2608766 no offense, you are avoiding my greater point here. The point that i was making is that the human mind is extremely limited, tribalistic, closeminded and all these negative things.
Yes, by definition and using statistics, most humans arent stupid. But the point of my stupid and idiotic comments is that the average autism score human still presents so much mental limitations and issues that its frustrating.
>>2608769but you are externalising these traits onto other people rather than seeing yourself as part of it
>>2608772Oh on the contrary friend, I see those same traits on myself. I am frustrated not only on others but also about myself too. The frustration never ends
>>2608773but if you are at least average, then whats to complain about? and why would a 1,000 I.Q. creature want the same thing as a 100 I.Q. creature anyway? people love animals, even though they are stupid compared to humans.
>>2608751They're a race with malformed language facilities whose idea of education is to beat children into submission so stupid elders can insist they're the smart ones. Most of this comes from that deformity and the far worse solution humans created because of that deformity.
The saddest thing is that the writers who bury themselves in books have made this inadequacy clear, and all of that was destroyed because our ruling classes want a humanity dumb enough to always press the torture button. That's why we must read and hear this insufferable faggotry instead of communicating to each other as if we considered anything we say or write. It's really sad. When you mention why it's this way, they blame some poor stutterer, when that stutterer often reads a d thinks far more about language than any of these jackasses. The educators take pride in this stupidity because they can get more torture by doing this.
Humans have a long way to go before their lives are to olerable. We were making some small progress towards that, and some of us want to continue. But, certain people have declared we are not allowed to have that, and those people not.onlt control the schools but control armies of bots and are paid to keep all communication as disgusting as possible
>>2608769I've never heard of an autism score. It's a spectrum where no two are alike. I think for most, what presents as 'debilitating' symptoms are the result of sensory overload and trauma. PTSD aside, I still barely passed for normal, enough to be offered scholarships from different universities. They only saw musical and artistic abilities for sale to the highest bidder, but such was the '80s. The upside is the intense world experience becomes less intense with age. I can't play as fast anymore but I can build my own guitars. I think that's a fair trade. Anyway, I just checked in to say Merry Christmas and that most pdf redactions are criminal. Happy Holidays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO4_UmhhE6Q Sociopath thread
>>2608784This is how they diagnose it. You're scored and id you score too low your life is over. It's satanic and you're an asshole for encouraging it
>>2608799>SatanicGo be christian somewhere else plz
>>2608799Mine was 'diagnosed' when I rocked back and forth or was in constant motion from a toddler to my early 20s, I was mute in public most of that time and everyone understood I was neurodivergent (not right) but nobody knew anything about autism aside from an after school special about some kid spinning plates in the '70s. Music was how I communicated until I gained enough agency to start playing in public.
I see a lot of pretenders now because of the internet but I recognize a real case when I see it.
>>2608784>I've never heard of an autism scorelol "autism score" is a word filter for I.Q.
>>2608804I make guitars now. I might post a pic of the one I'm working on when it's finished but I can't plan that far in advance.
>>2608807Thanks. I'm obviously not online very often. Take care.
>>2608807>lol "autism score" is a word filter for I.Q. Which is another term favored by eugenicists and pseudo scientists.
amerikkkans are comoooooting to 'work'
>>2608831Media is desperate.
>>2608831Soon: Selling bathwater and used underwear, but progressive
Later: "These people installed several 24/7 webcams on their house and they don't regret it. Money is good, they say."
>>2608836Soon-ish: "Overcoming taboo: Meet the men and women not afraid to sell sex."
>>2608767The irony is that for all the shit Westerners get, it's a fact that people in Warsaw Pact countries gleefully tore down their AES governments for the sake of treats.
>>2608831Rightoids: under communism you wont even own your own clothes and toothbrush
Also rightoids:
>>2608839So you admit treats actually play a role at sabotaging socialism? I thought treat discourse was pure nonsense or something, huh…
You fucking mosquitoes are quiet today. I guess you are playing pretend at 'work' huh?
>>2608831Wow this side hustle is soo chic.
>>2608850is that coffee on the glass?
>>2608851No. A malt drink called 'three horses'. I dont know if you have that burgeristan
>>2608853has microplastdicks inside the bottle cap
>>2608854Well I can't be too anti-microplastic because that would make me a beta soy ecologist petit-bourgeois
It's all about balance
>>2608831>>2608836wow, US media is reaching Iberian Peninsula Spanish media levels:
co-living, "the new way to share your space and get some extra income" (basically renting your already packed-like-a-sardine-can space and living with the tenant), "smart and talented hipsters found in 'coliving' a way to emancipate".
I've seen these before, picrels, but that's a new media hustle.
lmao.
>>2608847All governments derive their legitimacy by their ability to distribute treats.
>>2608847>So you admit treats actually play a role at sabotaging socialism? I never said they didn't.
>I thought treat discourse was pure nonsense or something, huhYeah it is, because as always this place and the internet in general take a reasonable notion (e.g. high living standards help work against revolutionary tendencies among workers) and turn it into nonsense (e.g. "if you enjoy bananas you're bourgeois and personally want to beat third world children to death to get it"). Ironically I think that treats played a bigger role in destroying existing socialism than preventing it from emerging in the first place.
>>2608831the entire “journalistic” piece is just some loser “reporting” on slop that two losers on tiktok keep spamming.
>>2608861>Ironically I think that treats played a bigger role in destroying existing socialism than preventing it from emerging in the first place.The only observation I would add to this is that preventing it from emerging (not saying treats are the only thing that prevent it, obviously) in the imperial core is part of how it destroys AES imo, I dont think those are two different things, they are connected.
>>2608857>renting your already packed-like-a-sardine-can space and living with the tenantThe collapse of boarding as an acceptable living situation has contributed to the unaffordability of housing. Upper middle class becoming too anti-social to share their oversized houses plays a big part.
>>2608861>Yeah it isYou don't think someone like Hasan should be considered a treatlerite?
>>2608883At this point I struggle to understand wtf "treatlerite" even means.
>>2608873These people don’t care about Antisemitism at all, they only care about Israel. Yeah Tucker pushes the great replacement theory which is antisemitic but if these people actually cared they would elect Nick Fuentes
>>2608884Hasan has used the pro-palestine cause for years for clout, and now is hanging out with zionist democrats (well, he always kinda has I guess) who are pro-Zohran, because Zohran promises better living standards and affordability ("treats", if you may) for new yorkers, which could be argued is basically throwing palestinians under the bus in favour of his in-group (burgers). He is also rich a coooonsumes a lot. I think that kind of opportunistic behaviour is what can be described as being a treatlerite. I think they are a real thing, regardless of if people here abuse that term to troll people.
A real communist would not even know what a Hasan is. Nobody is a communist here.
>>2608894Correct, because real communists were all killed during the 20th century. We are all the children of the opportunists (also known as dick riders) who sold out to stay alive during the cold war.
>>2608895True-pilled and fact checked ✔️
When does the ride end, 'comrade'?
>>2608896When global warming starts really fucking everything up and the mechanisms of recuperation the dick riders employ to neutralize the real movement fail under the stress applied to them by barbarism and chaos.
zohran status?
>>2608903Busy attending movie premieres with Odessa Azion while his wife actively helps islamists in Syria.
>>2608884treats+hitlerite. based on westerners disdain and their plentiful-of-treats way of living reliant on the exploitation, plunder, and use of violence. not hard to grasp. and even 'leftism' produced in it, by the 'treats' system, reaches to a point they don't plan to change the economic structure that it's exploitative with themselves because that would mean also getting rid off the exploitative nature abroad.
there's some truth in it. and as you said here
>>2608839, when
>>2608883 says that 'hasan is a trealerite' basically implies that hasan functions like such a person.
>>2608873Ms. Rachel didn't win :(
It's always funniest when they pick someone like that, reminder Ilhan Omar won in 2019, the same year as someone shot up a synagogue. It's such a bad joke
>>2608884it started off as boomers in McMansions who will throw out half they groceries every week
now it means gig economy workers who want health insurance
>>2608922Danish won't do shit. Fuck them and fuck their hygge.
why is the US flag and US anthem so ugly?
You got actual shitholes with much better flags and anthems
why are do burgers have shit aesthetics?
>>2608924remember when denmark spied angela merkel and other european politicians on US's behalf? pepperidge farm remembers.
>>2608922>with so many fronts open, you can chose the war theme in which you want to die for: winter, tropical, dessert, Caribbean, Asiatic jungle.you can rest assured I'll be banging the wives of the soldiers deployed to each one
epstein files:
1% released
500 full pages redacted
>>2608929not one worth watching
there was a time when burgers could at least make good yank propaganda
now its slop slop slop
Last time I watched a movie was in 2021
>>2608932do not look at how much zootopia 2 made in china
>>2608935all men are brothers
>>2608932for me the last movies I watched were the two new DUNC movies, and even before going to the cinema I watched them via torrent to know that it's worth the money.
What will orange man and whiskey breakfast announce today? I think it will be some facing saving affair bragging about how many tankers they've boarded.
>>2608968
Uh huh. 🥱
>>2608971You have no argument. You have no counter example.
>>2608972What if you wanted to derail
but Marshall Zhukov said:
>>2608968
your still one of us lmao your not better than everyone around (you) lol perfectly equal in fact
>>2608942>exploitation was in the neo-liberal period of globalization since the 1980sneoliberalization hasn't stopped. it has faced some bumps. but all the current turnoil around the world it's because some states are refusing to neoliberalize.
when hillary cried
look, China will never be capitalist to scare off investment, it's basically
'it', she was warning that you will not be able to privatize the country for the sakes of saving the capitalist crisis.
>>2608978I could see twitter,insta or any big site but why a single general on an obscure image board full of people that are alr class conscious? I mean even if its real humans making the comments that shit is so repetitive it might as well be an LLM. I remember back when we had MAGAcom hazzies(prolly the same exact people as the first worldists tbh but I digress) being the primary source of shitflinging someone literally trained an LLM to mimic them cuz of how predictable there comments and cadence were.
>>2608996>neoliberalization hasn't stoppeddo you know what a tariff is
>>2608978>Americans are mostly insane and retarded animals<The only way Americans can liberate ourselves is with revolution and solidarityI mean…both things can be true though right?
>>2608939>even before going to the cinema I watched them via torrent to know that it's worth the money.Same here. I'm hoping DUNC Messiah is going to be good, I loved that book.
>>2608902>When global warming starts really fucking everything up that already is happening
>>2608894>A real communist would not even know what a Hasan is. Nobody is a communist here.I hope you at least include yourself in these utterly asinine and irrelevant gatekeeping statements that center /isg/ slop as "class analysis"
>>2609006do you not understand what 'nobody' means? Of course it includes myself.
>>2609005Amy Goodman is a Zionist.
>>2609000a rare intelligent yank
>>2609000every single day these trolls show up ITT to derail every single fucking discussion with "you cockroach" "you animal" "why are you so sensitive when I dehumanize you" "I bet you don't even have a job" "I bet you're petty bourgeois" "I bet you've never had anything bad happen to you"
blah blah blah blah fucking blah
they find the only place on the internet where there's any communist-sympathizing americans, and they harrass THOSE endlessly instead of just going to 4klan or a military forum or a cop forum or some shit and harrassing those people. it's completely bad faith. They do it for a quick dopamine rush. They don't actually want to stick it to the real reactionary bastards in the ruling class, military, police, etc. so they find some random person who come here to co-miserate and fuck with them instead. It's utter nonsense and probably a validation of dead internet theory.
>>2608974It's called diplomacy. Zhukov was too classy to call you filth to your face.
>>2609007people quite often make all or nothing statements that aren't intended to include themselves because they're narcissists with zero self awareness
>>2609011still an animal though right
>>2609013>you don't have an example<give an example>that doesn't count because i say soad infinitum
>>2609014we are all cousins of the chimpanzees, so we are all animals
>>2609004is that the one where paul becomes a worm?
>>2609014your still one of us lmao your not better than everyone around (you) lol perfectly equal in fact
>>2609018the people who dehumanize others on here reveal only that they are idealists who have elevated humans in their mind to something supernatural, so that when real humans fall short of that, they get very upset
>>2609023>your still one of us lmao your not better than everyone around (you) lol perfectly equal in factI was being sarcastic. I was making fun of the anon who calls people cockroach/animal nonstop.
>>2608999>do you know what a tariff isthe protectionist flailing doesn't make much of a difference when the core neoliberal doctrines of privatization, deregulation, austerity, union busting are being applied both domestically and abroad, along with shock therapy, structural adjustment programs, etc. Porky is pulling out all the stops.
yanks are getting emotional… if only yanks get this emotional when they invade, murder and rape
https://www.defensenews.com/news/pentagon-congress/2025/12/19/pentagon-fails-financial-audit-for-8th-year-in-a-row/The Pentagon failed its financial audit for the eighth consecutive year, the Defense Department said Friday, highlighting the ongoing systemic challenge the nation’s largest federal agency faces in fully accounting for its assets.
The department has received a failing grade on every audit since Congress mandated annual reviews beginning in 2018, and is the only one of the government’s 24 major agencies never to pass.
In the Department of Defense Agency Financial Report for fiscal year 2025, auditors identified 26 material weaknesses and two significant deficiencies in the department’s financial reporting.
Among the shortcomings were omissions in the Joint Strike Fighter Program, the Pentagon’s multifaceted effort to develop an affordable strike aircraft for the Air Force, Marine Corps, Navy and allied nations.
Auditors determined the Pentagon failed to report assets in the program’s Global Spares Pool, and did not accurately record the property.
“The DOD could not provide or obtain accurate and reliable data to verify the existence, completeness or value of its Global Spares Pool assets for the Joint Strike Fighter Program,” according to the report. “As a result, the omission of the Joint Strike Fighter Program Global Spares Pool assets resulted in a material misstatement on the Agency-Wide Financial Statements.”
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the department remains committed to annual financial audits and is actively conducting a comprehensive review of its budget. The Pentagon reported $4.65 trillion in assets and $4.7 trillion in liabilities, located across all 50 states and more than 40 countries.
“The department cannot resolve decades of war, neglect of America’s defense industrial base and soaring national debt through unchecked spending,” Hegseth said in a statement released with the audit. “We are dedicated to openly sharing audit results and using them as a guide for continuous improvement.
“We believe this report clearly illustrates that progress and our unwavering dedication to ensuring every taxpayer dollar is used effectively and efficiently to strengthen our national defense.”
The department’s chief financial officer, Jules Hurst, wrote in a letter included in the report that the Pentagon aims to resolve “critical issues” and achieve an “unmodified” audit opinion by 2028.
>>2609006>that already is happeningbut is just the start, I meant whats coming in the next decades
>>2609033material reality
>>2608999neoliberalism isn't stopped by tariffs, but by nationalizing and shifting the goals of these companies from profit to social accomplishments.
all of that stunt trump is doing is to have trade and commercial warfare against the insubordinate states. one simple look at alziolani's economic plan, is to neoliberalize Syria. Outcome? alziolani is explicitly welcomed in the WH.
that, alone, should tell you where we are at.
>>2609032the bad faith derailing will continue that fills up endless threads will continue
>>2609031>if only yanks get this emotional when they invade, murder and rapeI am against everything my military and government does to the global south and have never once participated in said "rape" but
>>2609036>Except that's fucking nonsense. Western living standards are universally possible with a fraction of current economic output if you eliminate capitalist parasitism and wasteI said so in a similar post:
>>2608146<read rajani palme dutt's fascism and social revolution, chapter 3, particularly the section titled "the destruction of the productive forces". under capitalism we already OVERPRODUCE more than everyone needs, but don't give it to people if they can't afford it, and then throw it in the dumpster if it goes past its expiration date. there is tremendous and pointless waste under capitalism because we produce more than we need and then don't distribute it, due to the anarchy of production. we could actually feed, clothe, and house everyone ,while producing LESS than we already produce, using something called ECONOMIC PLANNING. you could also slow or even reverse population growth with ECONOMIC PLANNING. you can increase the productivity of each person with TECHNOLOGY and PLANNING without increasing CONSUMPTION. but this is not PROFITABLE so we don't do it, because our system is rooted in PROFIT rather than PLANNING. The lassalleans wanted let the workers have the total surplus product, but that's fucking stupid, because that is still an unplanned society. a bunch of people who make chairs for a living don't want to drown in chairs just because they made the chairs and therefore own the chairs. that's the lassallean formula. the communist formula involves abolishing the anarchy of production, which is incredibly wasteful. America throws out half it's food, before it even reaches the consumer. We have no idea how much the consumers throw out, but it's a lot too.NOBODY RESPONDED except one guy to just cope "it doesn't matter"
They always avoid this when I bring it up.
>>2609032>>2609031go harass cops and troops and 4klanners instead of a tiny community of communist-sympathetic burgers
>>2609040I've also noticed that TWist types never actually cite studies or figures to back up their claims that high living standards would be impossible without imperialism. What's most telling of all is that they never cite the work of actual theorists of unequal exchange because none of them believe that it benefits first world proles. These assertions are always just presented as self evident.
>>2609042because it's CIA/Mossad LLM slop to tamp down erupting class consciousness and funnel sensitive burgers who are afraid of 9/11 style "vengeance" into the arms of reactionaries
>>2608999>>2608999>>2609038 (me)
>>2608996 (me)
>>2608942also, we are not even close to what the tariffs are when the neoliberalism project started. this is a small excerpt of a International Trade Masters' degree thesis I wrote as a ghost writer for another person:
>US tariffs fell from 33% in 1944 to 1-2%, for example, or from 1947 to 1986, tariffs on manufactured goods dropped from 35% to 6.4% among all [GATT] signatory states (Elson, 2021a, p. 32; Sundaram, 2022, p. 37).also, it's very weird that in Naked Capitalism they say "globalisation of the late 20th century was a response", when globalization is the symptom, not the cause. neoliberalism is the cause, and it's a response to the failing rates. globalization is the outcome of the neoliberal policies,
reduction of tariffs, privatization, etc. >>2609042I don't think they read, its more like an emotional outburst
>>2609048ummm you actually had the emotional outburst at my village when you raped it you filthy yank animal
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>>2609049
Indian shounen anime series about god v god battles when?
>>2609042>actually cite studies or figures to back up their claims that high living standards would be impossible without imperialismI tried to get an AI-generated re-distribution ratio of this picture, with new 2024 data, larger map even showing tax heaven countries, but AIs I used get stuck in forever generation data looking at the tables.
but I got the answer to question on the US with an updated 2024 figure:
the US population would be poorer if all the wealth around the world is distributed evenly across all the world. Even if you set up a PPP analysis.
You can ask that basic question to the AI, get the quoted references and see for yourself.
>>2609046'neoliberalism' really just means 'western controlled globalization'. neoliberalism is dying at the same time a new kind of globalization is emerging. India for example is knocking down its trade barriers for the first time ever
>>2609057AI sucks at generating maps. You can ask an AI for the simplest map of Europe and it will put Ukraine in the middle of Germany or something
>>2609059well, actually it got stuck on the data gathering. If I had the data I could have done the map myself.
>>2609057>the US population would be poorer if all the wealth around the world is distributed evenly across all the world. Even if you set up a PPP analysis.Your pick literally says the saverage American would be slightly richer (only slightly so) in that situation. Only the blue countries in the bottom half of the pic wouldn't be richer on average.
But that only looks at MONEY. people can have MONEY but still have to wait for 6 months to get some medicine they need to survive or get approved for chemotherapy when someone in another country would have much better healthcare outcomes. WTF does money matter when burgers pay way more for healthcare than other 1st world countries, and even have worse healthcare outcomes than 2nd world countries like China. I would sacrifice cheap banana, cheap coffee, endless useless garbage like toys and movies, for better healthcare, a stable job market, and an educated, organized population rather than the absolute looney bin of school shooters and fentanyl addcits I currently live in LOL
>>2609057>the US population would be poorer if all the wealth around the world is distributed evenly across all the worldEven if that's true it's an entirely moot point. An end to imperialistic relations wouldn't mean the even distribution of existing wealth. What are you going to pack up a Google data centre and relocate it to Nigeria? What are they going to do with hit? How would it benefit them? It would be completely useless. You might as well say that socialism means a redistribution of toothbrushes. No, and end to imperialism means first ending the parasitic relationship between the first and third world, and second allowing (and actively helping) the latter develop and industrialize on their own terms according to their needs. The question is whether this is possible without a making the lives of Westerners worse, and the answer is yes.
TPUSA's America Fest 2025 was a great display of democratic centralism. The Chagossian hopes that the dickriders of the democrats emulates them in this.
>>2609066the pic. not the 2024 data I managed to gather. All of the western countries were analyzed and, particularly for nato ones, are all losing the competition.
the only shit it couldn't complete was the microstates, the tax heaven countries, and island-countries, because, I remember the AI told me: the data is not direct and it requires to cross-reference the information from different sources to get an approximate result.
>>2609067>Even if that's true it's an entirely moot point.
>mfw >>2609067>>2609069 (me)
>What are you going to pack up a Google data centre and relocate it to Nigeria?to your question, many of the services and industries as they exist wouldn't exist or wouldn't exist as you know them.
>>2609025my b anon, very true abt them being idealists
>>2609032>>2609031your just like us in every way lol
>>2609069what do you think of this part:
<But that only looks at MONEY. people can have MONEY but still have to wait for 6 months to get some medicine they need to survive or get approved for chemotherapy when someone in another country would have much better healthcare outcomes. WTF does money matter when burgers pay way more for healthcare than other 1st world countries, and even have worse healthcare outcomes than 2nd world countries like China. I would sacrifice cheap banana, cheap coffee, endless useless garbage like toys and movies, for better healthcare, a stable job market, and an educated, organized population rather than the absolute looney bin of school shooters and fentanyl addcits I currently live in LOLI would HAPPILY pay DOUBLE for food (especially since I don't eat fast food slop and mostly home cook myself cheap rice and bean type shit) if it meant the job market wasn't insane, the healthcare system wasn't insane, imperialism ended, the jobs we outsourced came back (after all, that's one aspect of imperialism), we were more self sufficient, and we fixed our school shooting and drug addiction problems.
I would give up "treats" like video games, movies, and wal marts full of useless fucking plastic toys made out of petrochemicals to have an actually stable and self sufficient society that makes stuff like China.
>>2609073the chagossian class-conscious proletarian is not like the American exploiter
in every way.
We both breathe and drink water (without the lead for me please), and that's it.
>>2609069Sorry Anon, smug reaction images aren't a substitute for arguments. It's a moot point simply because dismantling imperialism doesn't require perfectly even redistribution of existing wealth, but assisting the global south in reaching Western levels of development. The Warsaw Pact is a much better model of this, where Soviet subsidies, technical assistance, and mutually beneficial trade helped turn backwards agrarian countries into industrial powers that competed with Western Europe.
>>2609077>We both breathe and drink waterhydrosynthesis????????
>>2609078> It's a moot point simply because dismantling imperialism doesn't require perfectly even redistribution of existing wealthno, you turd, the even distribution of wealth is a measurable outcome of the end of imperialism/colonialism.
>>2609067>The question is whether this is possible without a making the lives of Westerners worse, and the answer is yesOh I'm sorry, are you volunteering to grow your own coffee and bananas and assemble your own electronics? Do you even know how to farm? Have you EVER done actual work with your hands that wasn't just killing brown children and raping brown women half a world away?
>>2609072Yes but even once that would remain necessary simply couldn't be packed up and shipped away. Something line a steel mill requires transportation, electrical, and other infrastructure to be viable, plus technical know how and further industrial capacity to actually use the product. It would be pointless to just pack up one in Pittsburgh and ship to Nigeria a country that (through no fault of their own) lacked the capacity to make full use of it. It would be better for everybody to train Nigerian technicians and subsidize the construction of a new mill in Nigeria.
>>2609084Obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that simple redistribution of existing wealth isn't the solution to that disparity.
>>2609077you literally one of us and equal in every way shape or form lol
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Thats assuming they would ever be able to afford a avocado
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>>2609097
go harass actual reactionaries on reddit, 4klan, cop and military dickrider forums
>>2609085No, I'm saying that if coffee and banana farmers owned the plantations on which they worked they could pocket the profits which would otherwise go to Western capitalists, and they could do this without even increasing prices.
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yeah yeah wrap it up, there's a new thread for you to spend all your free time talking to genetically reactionary animals
>>2609075the commodification of everything, that led everyone's lives in the US to that point, because the capitalists then could accumulate and hoard those things, is what drives the average American to feel an unsurmountable obstacle to join their lives.
though I don't know if Americans and westerners in general are more willing to get rid off the exploitative system or live the illusion that until they die there's a chance they can get to live bezo's, bilderberg's, rothschild's, elon's lives. specially if they are explained thoroughly what that implies.
>>2609019That's God-Emperor of Dune, iirc.
>>2609102i would happily pay double for rice and beans and the other foods I eat most often if it meant there were less school shootings, fentanyl addicts, and imperialist wars. but these trolls don't believe me. it's a never ending struggle session with them. they could harrass actual reactionaries but they curiously spend their infinite free time at their cobalt mining job to harass americans. because they are CIA LLM bots.
The stuff that the Chagos poster and other "Maoist Third Worldists" say is basically American Exceptionalism, but in the reverse. Saying that America is uniquely evil in history but when you honestly look at history it's not that unique. Even African slave kingdoms enslaved other African tribes and sold them to the Europeans.
It's basically yet another form of burger Protestant Christianity and "Original Sin" all over again.
>>2609191Chagos poster repeatedly said that he is not a TWist though.
>>2609036The fact of the matter is that Hegel ended up being right in his analysis of the state as the representation of the general interest of a people by encompassing all parties, when the focus is on the Western states.
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