>>2614687Flood detectedChristianity was fucking stupid, because even the earliest Church councils had to ban self-castration because Bible clearly states that worldly desires are evil while castration negatively impacted population statistics for feudal lords. Even so, Christians had this weird obseesion with masturbation, sex and purity with communal overwatch over what happened in people's bedrooms.
This has nothing to do with LGBT or whatever, it's about a Cult organization controlling sexual life of cultists
>A reason why the Christians were prosecuted was literally that they didn't jerk off to the literal God-Emperor of the Romans.Nah, Christians were simply annoying as fuck, same as they are today. Romans tried to remove annoyance - same way Chinese and Japanese did, by the way. But unlike Romans, Asians have managed to prevent this disease from taking root and have maintained their relatively progressive religious customs over totalitarian (in)sect(oid) religion of Europeans
marx notably never talked about rights
>>2614883Denazification, fuck yeah!
Is ANYTHING happening?
>>2614892Besides Ukraine losing ground and the EU their minds?
Not much
>>2614883Kapustin is now compost for Kapusta, the circle of life.
S >In an interview with Politico on Friday, Trump signaled he was in no rush to rally behind Zelensky’s demands. “He doesn’t have anything until I approve it,” Trump stressed. “So we’ll see what he’s got.”
>>2614906Dangerously close to claiming Zelensky doesn't have the card again
>>2614909Hilarious how circular Trump is here:
>Anything you have you have it because I gave it to you>Show me what you have (which, as I established, was given to you by me)>I have dementia, btw >>2614894So will the war end this year?
>>2614934I love the fact they're both ultimately actors and not politicians, I think they should hold the next Zelensky-Trump summit in the WWE ring, their meetings already have that energy.
>Zelensky already in the right, calling out to the spectators about how Putin must be stopped or else they're next<Vance slating Zelensky for threatening the American public with his own problems and being disrespectful for not even wearing a suit when addressing the US<Suddenly Donald "The Dealer" Trump appears, strolls down the runway and jumps into the ring, grabs the microphone from Vance and points at Zelensky before shoutingYOU DON'T HAVE THE CARDS, BUT I HAVE A DEAL FOR YOU, IF YOU WANT THE CARDS AND DEFEAT PUTIN YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE ME YOUR RESOURCES OR DEFEAT ME AT THIS SUMMER'S G7 SUPERSLAM>The crowd goes wild, Zelensky has a face of disbelief while Vance cheers at the crowd >>2614953already in the ring*
It's interesting how the entire reporting on this war in Western media turned form being armchair generals in 2022 and partly during 2023 to almost exclusively concerning itself with nightly drone and missile attacks on Kiev and updates on the "peace negotiations" (which exclude Russia).
Reporting on the frontline is quasi non-existent. You know, the part where hundreds ot soldiers die sometimes daily (compared to the four injured and one killed within a week during a drone attack on Kiev) and being the part that is in the end decisive regarding 1) how the fucking war ends, 2) how a symmetrical war in the 21st century is going to look like and 3) how NATO equipment, production and tactics perform in such a scenario.
It is embarrassing that I have to consume almost only "alternative media" or some schizo channels to get updates on the war.
>>2614957Spartacus was lazy and became an adventurist because he didn't want to work and build the productive forces so we could get to the lower stage of capitalism (feudalism)
>>2614986It's probably a sign that things are not looking good for the west no?
>>2614986Because, by hook or by crook, the west wants the war to continue in the hopes Russia runs out of money first, all the Western MSM must do is sell the war to its readers that the expenditure is unavoidable.
During 2022 and 2023 it achieved that by suggesting Ukraine was guaranteed to win against our greatest and most historic enemy. After that it devolves into mere moralism that Russia is committing "war crimes" against civilian infrastructure (all retaliatory in nature, also called "shock and awe" in other conflicts) that we can't actually stop, therefore the western proletariat must instead compensate Ukraine financially at their own expense.
That being said, the economic damage the EU has already caused itself and is apparently willing to inflict on itself, for a conflict that will no doubt in retrospect be considered a lost cause since 2023 if not from the start even, is unlikely to go down well when you contrast the destroyed standard of living for the majority with the probably-then-common appearance of nice cars with Ukrainian licence plates in Europe's capital cities.
>>2614957>>2615007Spartacus was a reactionary who wanted to become a king fighting against a more progressive republic. Crassus was the true revolutionary who built up Roman productive forces if you think about it.
>>2615023
Untrue, because of this war European countries are cutting welfare to fund the military and this sucks because I asked santa for gibs to buy treats on aliexpress, not a nuclear aircraft carrier but apparently all of us proles in the northern hemisphere are on the naughty list.
>>2615023
After everything the EU has already sent, they've just agreed on sending a "loan" of 90 Billion Euros backed by seemingly nothing, other than perhaps rage because they couldn't get at the Russian assets.
We're seeing a few signs here and there of job losses and higher costs of living due to cutting off direct access to Russian gas and oil (and the EU cutting itself off from a market of around 155 million people if you count Russia and Belarus together), but the takeaway from 2008 and the 1920s is you can play around with funny money without much consequence until someone wants to cash out, which in this circumstance will be the second a peace agreement is signed.
>>2615055This is more because of China competition and US pressure than the Ukraine war though
>>2615023
LOL
>>2615074I’m sure everyone who’s been busified thus far is thrilled Zelensky listened to Boris Johnson over the many people who said this.
>>2615074>>2615121"two weeks until collapse" is the 2020's version of "War will be over by Christmas"
>>2615074Bro they war hype merchants were strong. I remember the same people saying that Russia wouldn't invade cause "it isn't an agressor like the US" were talking about how Kiev was gonna fall in days lmao. I know because I was one of them.
>>2615046So this is a Russia vs China proxy war, and if Europe stops buying Chinese treats, Xi collapses!
>>2615173That did look pretty cool tbf
>>2615163>residential buildingsThey've lost the ability to use that phrase after their sekret plan to have civilians build FPV drones in their kitchens was revealed and celebrated, no?
>>2615184I'll be your friend Zelensky
Really hope holopiggy zelensky gets turned into pink mist. He’s an annoying parasite
>>2615183why do glowies always have the psychopath dead soul eyes? just once i'd like to see an intelligence agent whose eyes doesn't look like they just finished witnessing a gang rape at Epstein's island 5 minutes ago.
>>2615206Because they are congnizant liars
>>2614905I love fresh kapusta salad.
>>2614883>killed by FPV droneThis means there must be footage of this. I hope the Russians released it.
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>>2614883Aaay some good news
>>2615148fake, cucktin would never attack the west
I stubbed my toe. Putin has weaponized coffee tables against us.
>>2615217>Support of the world>Its just yurop and burgerlandBeyond parody
>>2615206you'd too have the thousand island stare if you've seen some glowie shit first hand
>>2615250>thousand island stareI relisten for he
Did cucktin uncuck himself? Or is this another Iran-tier impotent bombing that will end in less than 48 hours?
>>2615276You are a useless drug addict. Nobody takes you seriously. Nobody is interested in your hot takes about geopolitics.
Get clean, drop that stupid flag, ask normal questions. Until then you are nothing more than a silly symptom of your society's collapse.
>>2615278Yeah it's definitely impotent bombing overhyped by ziggas….
>>2615296Ukrainians aren't Vietnamese Communist Gigachads. They're not even real Nazis. Ukrainians are urbanites who want treats and are reliant on a centralized power network. Russia's strategic bombings are only unsuccessful because they get pulled back every time out of Putin's deluded humanitarianism.
>>2615296I don't think it's will they're targeting
Where was the strategic bombing? Even the dumb bombs have been strapped to GPS-enabled gliders.
>>2615296Curtis LeMay would have unironically won this war for Russia in a month if he was in charge. It would have come at the cost of 90% of the Ukrainian population but he would have easily won and prevented Cucktin from becoming a meme.
>>2615301It's not just Putin's Humanism. He is thinking of the cost of having to rebuild Ukraine or atleast parts of it if he turns is into a slavic somalia.
>>2615389all rightists are so pathetic man, the forced unappealing suit and weird beard
all of them would be so much happier if they got a good deep dicking, and i bet you the taboo of man to man sex makes them extra horny
>>2615445>i bet you the taboo of man to man sex makes them extra hornyYou're so right, anon
lol
so wait was the whole koopyansk counteroink just a bunch of bs afterall?
>>2615639They attacked, they expended their attacking potential, and now Russia is mopping up survivors. Well, according to Russian tg channels, Ukrainians have broke through with fresh reinforcements, placed them inside basements and buildings like before, and Russia now has to re-liberate Kupyansk. Kind of like Zelen Tsu's quote about adding more soldiers inside cauldrons
It’s funnier when rightoid social media obituaries mention Valhalla and one day seeing the deceased there
>>2615674>dreaming about dining and wining in Valhasllavs
<getting there >>2615148>Weaponized immigrationWTF I thought refugees should be welcomed, especially from countries who suffered from Orc intervention or occupation?
Multiculturalismsisters, have been hecking duped by Putler? Is taking in refugees a RuZZian psyop?
>>2615148>Almost certain >highly likely >possibleso it's not like it happened for sure 100% we can prove it. but it 'might' have, but you better believe it because pulter hates europe and freedom
>>2615674Imagine being a lanklet ukronazi drone operator sitting at a computer all day and thinking that when Russia bombs your HQ you will be dining with buff vikings with swords and shit.
>>2615148>neoliberals privatize the power grid and sell everything off to foreign investors>no new investments are made into the power grid since all the money is going instead to stockholder dividends>inevitable collapse in basic utilities<WTF THIS IS RUSSIA'S FAULTdo euroids really believe this shit?
dennis kasputin (White Rex) arrived in Germany from Russia with a special visa for Jewish refugees
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>According to SPIEGEL research, Kapustin and his family traveled from Russia to Germany for the first time in 2001. Not as a Russian late resettler, but as a Jewish contingent refugee. In official German, the Kapustin family was henceforth a "special case" due to their supposedly Jewish origin. Only a few months after his entry, Denis Kapustin received an indefinite residence permit.https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/rechtsextremer-kampfsportler-der-neonazi-krieger-aus-moskau-a-1253163.htmlToday's GIVAS news: Canada has just agreed to give another $2.5B to the green goblin
>>2615865Almost everyone in Ukraine has some amount of Jewish and Tatar root due to the history of the region. Lots of refuseniks in the 90s used that to claim Jewish identity for themselves
>>2615876Kapustin was from Moscow though
>>2615876I mean, it is like the "lord of war" movie; jews are white so you can just claim to be jewish
>>2615905Yes, that's a lot if not most Russian Jews in Israel.
Honestly, 'jewish' is an incredibly nebulous as if to be useless term of identification, which Israel actively perpetuates for its own interests.
the easy joke is that the blatant opportunism and dishonesty of claiming to be jewish to move to germany or the us, is, paradoxically, very jewish
>>2615907>>2615909Tfw Russians are ethnically cleansing Jews through immigrating to Israel
>During the liberation of Gulyaypole, the first mass use of guided rockets for the "Tornado-S" MLRS took place.
>These missiles, often called the Russian equivalent of HIMARS, were developed last year at the Tula NPO "SPLAV" (named after A.N. Ganichev), and regular deliveries to the special military operation zone have already begun.
Pretty big news if there's a sufficient quantity of those
>>2616164Well thats grim. Literal death cult.
19:13 GMT
>Ahead of the meeting, Trump called Zelensky ‘very brave’: “This gentleman has worked very hard, he's very brave, and his people are very brave. Very rarely has a nation ever had to go through this. We're going to have a very good meeting today, I think.”
19:25 GMT
There will be a security agreement, and it “will be strong” ahead of the meeting, according to Trump.
>"The European nations are very most involved in that, they are very much involved in protection, the European nations are really great… I think you can say there is nobody bad, they all wanna get it done".
>>2615865>Claims to be Jewish>Joins Ukronazis as opposed to the IDFWhat a dumbass. LMAO
With the latter he would probably still be alive and have killed plenty of brown civilians like his death cult ideology demands. Instead he fought his Slavic bröthers and ate an FPV drone.
Russians must release the video of his death! >>2616228>Mutual support<China doesn't help Russia at all in the SMO<China instead sells drones and parts to Ukronazis that murder Donetsk babies for a quick buckWith friends like these you don't need enemies.
Cucktin cucks to both China and the USA simultaneously. Fucking amazing!
>>2616164Wholesome, but a bit symbolic. They should focus on rebuilding Azovstal, since industry is the lifeblood of a city.
>>2616167Wtf. What are you smoking?
>>2616253Russia and China had talks about the drones. China sells drones and drone parts worldwide. It would be impossible to stop drones entering Ukraine one way or another unless China stops selling drones wholesale – in which case someone else would pick up.
Sorry that the new global economic hegemon fried your brain. Please tell us about your totally feasible alternative path China should pursue.
21:16 GMT
>The Trump-Zelensky meeting has ended after lasting about two hours, according to several media outlets. The Ukrainian leader is reportedly holding video talks with several European leaders.
21:36 GMT
>Trump and Zelensky are expected to speak at a joint press conference at Mar-a-Lago, according to journalist Ekaterina Lisunova.
Who has link? Where's the cytube room?
>>2616302They can't let it go, lmao
>>2616312thank you trump thank you jared kushner thank you kier starmer thank you macron thank you putin thank you zelensky thank you thank you thank you everyone
Le interimperialist conflict.
>>2616743
slavic countries with no russian influence do not exist, polako
slavic countries who renounce their ties to russia are stooges of the roman pedopope and autistic germanoid
In my experience, the differences between Eastern Euros rather dissipate when they come across each other in the west. I’ve come across Balts, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Russians, Poles, etc who all seem to magnetise to each other based on shared traditions and culture, rather than continuing their internet-nationalist shitfits in this strange and foreign western land.
The only issue I’ve come across is there not being enough imported polish herring to go around at new years.
>>2616927
I doubt it tbh, I think a lot of the EU Eastern Euros move west for economic reasons while Russians are more likely to be liberashkas moving at great expense for presumably "political" reasons. Like there's a Russian magazine-cum-restaurant in London called Zima that is currently selling Olivier Salad for £25 over the new year.
I think it's more a case of when you're surrounded near-exclusively by the exotic, it makes the familiar stand out a lot more.
>>2616875
go back, poltard
>>2616875
Russia defines Slavness, Polako.
You are a teuto-balto-ukro mongrel product of rape.
>>2616967
I still feel that's somewhat based on class, because Poles in the 2000s and Romanians in the 2010s were all considered scum as their nations joined the EU and then arrived in the UK ostensibly looking for work bennies taking all the jobs and all the benefits apparently, but again Russians within the UK are broadly left alone in that regard despite the absolute hysteria about Russia itself.
Probably because the stereotype for a British-Russian is that they're wealthy and probably consider themselves distantly related to the Romanovs, we have fairly painless jokes about Russians owning Chelsea and having geezers with last names like "Lebedev" cavorting with the highest echelons of British politics and society was basically fine prior to 2022.
Perhaps Britain was trying to incubate a new Romanov dynasty to replace the Putin regime, I dunno.
Speaking of Britain incubating replacement regimes for other states
Possible Zelensky challenger to return to Ukraine – media>Former Ukrainian Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny, who polls suggest would defeat Vladimir Zelensky in a presidential election, is set to return to Kiev from London in early January, a Ukrainian news outlet reported Monday.<Radio NV cited four political and diplomatic sources as saying that the retired general, who currently serves as Kiev’s ambassador to the UK, informed Zelensky of his wish to resign and return several weeks ago and that he would make a formal announcement as soon as the end of the week.https://swentr.site/russia/630183-zaluzhny-return-kiev-media/>>2616875>>2616975Retard on retard communication
Other reports also
indicative of significant happenings soon
Kiev should start talking to Moscow – Ukrainian spy chief>A weaker side has never dictated conditions to anyone and will never do it, Kirill Budanov has concededhttps://swentr.site/russia/630112-kiev-start-talk-moscow-spy/Kremlin agrees with Trump that Ukraine peace talks close to finale>Moscow believes the end of the conflict is approaching, spokesman Dmitry Peskov has saidhttps://swentr.site/russia/630188-peskov-ukraine-peace-talks/Cucktinists choose your weapons, is Cucktin going to surrender everything Russia has liberated thus far and turn on BRICS for a promise that Russia's re-admittance to global neolib orgs will be considered?
>Russia beat NATO in a proxy conflict single handedly
anyone with half a brain knew this would be the clear outcome
>>2617042
No doubt, but I'm still hopeful there will be a "controlled" attempt at replacing Zelensky and it will quickly become very uncontrolled.
>>2617052
>nato doesn't really support ukraine more than china (nor iran before bombings) does russia
not for lack of trying lmao. this is delicious euroid cope, my favorite
>>2617052
does the EU want to support Ukraine or not?
does the EU support Ukraine or not?
can the EU support Ukraine or not?
>>2617052
>it was Ukraine alone vs Russia, China, Iran and DPRK all along
Okay, not the weapon I would choose but probably wise to go down the path of damage control that Ukraine lost but that’s to the humiliation of Cucktin and friends, rather than that of claiming Russia will surrender at the 11th hour and Ukraine will be fully victorious
>>2617075
>ah but did Ukraine ackshually lose?
Ukraine set its own victory goal explicitly as retaking the full 1991 borders and have spent billions in foreign loans and thousands of kidnapped civilians failing to achieve that, so yes, they will have lost if they surrender territory.
>>2617075
european porky (🤢) considers crimea essential to continental security so both ukraine and europe lost big time yes
Also
>reconstruction funds
Not even lol, straight to lmao
>>2617084Crimea is not essential for anything anymore. Ukraine doesn't even have a navy but their drones BTFO the Russan fleet. It's pointless to care about ports and a navy now that a few dozen drones can sink any ship.
>>2617076American ""leftists"" (=rightists) will dosregard this.
>>2617096Who else does that apply to? The US Navy?
>>2617096>Crimea is not essential for anything anymoreSour grapes much?
That’s a lot of deleted posts..
Test
>>2617130how did your test go, comrade?
>>2617096>pointless to care about ports and a navythose same drones from a Ukrainian controlled crimea could credibly contest rostov, the azov sea and whole east flank of the black sea sea against Russian shipping, without Russian AD in present Crimea serving as a counter, turning it into a NATO pond to project power further. Just as infantry are still needed in albeit smaller quantities to control space rather than just deny it to the opposition the same is true of surface ships. Pure Columbian grade uncut copium on Crimeas supposed irrelevance
>>2617145(me)
*black sea
>>2617130haha checking of that ban is over huh?
Ukraine tried to drone Cuckler's residence
Gloves status?
>>2617076remember when the anarchist that died in ukraine received a funeral ceremony in kiev and azovites stormed the the place?
fun times
it was this year, lel >>2617287>>2616994so he was a self-hating Russian? very rare to see online.
>>2617293No, he's a pole. One living in Germany iirc. But it's funny how polish discourse is virtually indistinguishable from russian liberal or ukrainian discourse. You'd think with how independent, glorious and successful Poland is now they wouldn't let USSR/Russia live in their heads rent free.
>>2616979>but again Russians within the UK are broadly left alone in that regard despite the absolute hysteria about Russia itselfI have a cousin that lived in Londonfor some years, and she was treated like a sub-human because of her ancestry (our common grandparents were from a village near to the Levokumka).
>>2617287>Ukraine tried to drone Cuckler's residenceOf course it did. Ukraine doesn't have Christcucktin's Queensberry Rules. Besides, didn't they try to target his helicopter once and he did that fabulous Christcucktin cheek-turning nothing in return? He needs to figure out what time it is and fast, because Ukraine is a cornered feral animal right now - NABU turning the screws, Blumpf not falling for the latest ceasefire scheme, etc. - so it's time for the government-elimination escalation, and Christcucktin simply has to decide which government that will be.
>Lavrov: Russia does not intend to withdraw from the negotiation process following the attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Putin's state residence
lmao
More:
>Ushakov: Trump was outraged by the drone attack on Putin's residence
These Kremlin boomers would fall for a '90s-era Nigerian scam, wouldn't they?
>>2617288>Gloves status?We'll see, but all those Russian political figures who were whining about Serbia sending arms to Ukraine, Kazakhstan cozying up to NATO and building NATO-standard arms factories, Belarus releasing prisoners for the US, Armenia being Armenia, etc., will have plenty on which to reflect if Putin lets this slide again.
>>2617145it's irrelevant because drone tech will only get more and more advanced as the years go by and navy ships simply have no economically feasible way of surviving mass drone attacks. drones have made infantry, tanks, and navy vessels obsolete. the 21st century will be the century of the drone. probably the worst part about this is that Donald Rumsfeld predicted this 20 years ago and no one paid attention.
>>2617454Donald Rumsfeld's name predicted Donald Trump, if we're honest…
>>2617303Well of course individual experiences can vary, but I’ve not seen Russians to be included with the rightoid crusade against Eastern Euros. Although I will say for Russians there is the obligatory probing for their opinions on Russia and Putin, with the expectation they’ll corroborate everything Brits are told on the news.
>>2617334The residence was also in Novgorod apparently, we now know that Ukraine does indeed use the airspace of neighbouring countries for its drone attacks (if not launching from them in the first place), so who is also getting a free pass to assist Ukraine in this attack? Estonia? Finland?
>>2617496I've seen reports before of drones entering Russia from Estonia, but it was one of those one- or two-off things that looked more like Ukraine trying to drag NATO into the conflict than some ongoing arrangement between Ukraine and Estonia. Certainly I didn't see Russian officials make a stink about it, and even now they're not pointing fingers at NATO countries. I don't know what the range is on Ukrainian drones nowadays, but is there any reason they can't take the longer route from Ukraine?
Someone should put Trump's statements into chronological order too, because I'm getting the impression that one minute he's saying that Putin called him angry about it and the next he's saying that it's the first he's heard of Ukraine's attempt, tho I can't be bothered analyzing the times, etc.
The problem here is that if this was some spectacle like the Kremlin flag effort and not a real assassination attempt, and if Russia's response isn't sufficiently proportionate enough, it could easily give the West the idea that a real assassination attempt is on the table.
>Medevedev: "The stinking Kiev bastard is trying to derail the settlement of the conflict. He wants war. Well, now at least he’ll have to stay in hiding for the rest of his worthless life."
Stupid to say this if Zelensky isn't a target, because he's not going to hide and will go around collecting bravery points.
Hopefully Putin doesn't try to impress the Americans / China / Global South / whatever with his restraint and forbearance.
>>2617525Well depends on the drone model but Ukraine claims their longest ranged drones can reach that far, that being said, 97 drones flying thousands of kilometres were allegedly all shot down and that’s not too surprising if that was thousands of kms over Russian airspace. Even if you still launch that many in the hopes that one or two manage to avoid electronic warfare, AA missiles, interceptor drones, lasers, computer assisted machine gunners, air-to-air missiles, etc that’s still a catastrophic waste of fuel to fill all the drones to the brim every time Ukraine wants to try these attacks which they’d no doubt desire to be as close to nightly as possible.
As for why Russia doesn’t kick up a fuss about it? They’re not going to strike a NATO state over it and Ukraine’s drones semi-regularly crashing into NATO states and watching the back and forth between Ukraine and the supporting nation disagreeing about the drone being Russian is tastier than Russia wringing its fist anyway
>>2617531
>mfw people still think geopolitics is about"restraint" and not the cold logic of commodity chains, pipeline routes, and buffer stateshe's not trying to"impress" anyone, he's managing the decline of a petro-state that missed its window for integration into the EU core and is now stuck between a hostile expanding NATO and a predatory Beijing
>>2617537Eh, Putin does seem to have some genuine affection for the idea of the liberal statesman and legalist. I think it's a malady he acquired in his years of decline. Younger Putin had no such illusions.
I’m thinking Zelensky ordering this now probably goes along with the reports from earlier about Zaluzhny being back on the scene, perhaps previously there was the fear that such an attack potentially puts enough of Ukraine’s ruling class under threat from retaliation that they wouldn’t stand for it, but since they’re possibly bumping him off then he’s chimped out and ordered it as a parting gift.
glove status?
>>2617544Yeah, probably. I have no doubt that he knew about it.
There's an alternative theory floating around that he had no knowledge about it and that the Americans and/or Brits are trying to get Russia to eliminate him for them because he's stubbornly clinging on after the NABU exposures. Aside from the likely falsehood of this alternative theory, I hate it because it just sets up the usual "hurr, better not give them what they want then" 4D-chess logic, which means… more of Zelensky's face on my feeds.
>>2617537Geopolitics is bourgeois politics.
>>2617531The chinese are speechles seeing the absolute christianity of that man.
>>2617551the chinese aren't the ones to throw stones when it comes to strategic restraint
>There's not a single serious country that would tolerate an attempt to assassinate its leader.
Admittedly responding how the US or China would is too "obvious" and "pedestrian" and clashes with Putin's need to be an enigmatic chessman with inscrutable ways.
>>2617571>how China wouldexpressing deep concern? I think Putin is ever so slightly ahead of them due to, you know, actually fighting his enemies
Putin is well versed in mind games and social techniques.
>>2617574When the West tried to kill Russia's economy, Putin kept sending those aggressors gas and oil. China responded proportionately to efforts to kill its economy. I believe China would respond proportionately to decapitation attempts.
>>2617581>When the West tried to kill Russia's economy……Putin invaded the Ukraine
meanwhile China is still keeping to its "do nothing and respect the rules-based order" strategy
>>2617586There have been endless sanctions since the start of the invasion, and Putin kept sending those countries gas, oil, uranium, etc. China has responded tit for tat economically.
What can be said is that China hasn't responded tit for tat to the arming of Taiwan, but it's not as if Russia is giving Venezuela useful weapons either.
>>2617589Venezuela isn't Russia's Taiwan. Ukraine is.
>China has responded tit for tat economically. That's very charitable.
>>2617592Americans use Taiwan as a proxy against Chinese interests.
Americans use Ukraine as a proxy against Russian interests.
Venezuela (or Iran) would be the proxy that China or Russia could use against American interests, given that not much is happening with Vietnam or Cuba nowadays.
>@snekotron
>Let's see how this goes. Kind of funny how an assassination attempt on Putin makes everyone except for Zelensky a target.
Was Putin at the residence when the strike occurred? Because if it was just intended to be property damage, then that’s genius because retaliating against Ukrainian bourg properties would involve attacking a lot of countries but Ukraine wouldn’t be one lol
Zelensky will call Medvedev's bluff. Astounding that Medvedev hasn't realized by now the terminal state of Russian deterrence.
>>2617603 (me)
Also, notice what belies Medvedev's tough-realist talk: he frames the attack as an attempt to derail a legitimate negotiation process. That it's a legitimate negotiation process with the Trump administration is the same slop that Putin pretends to believe (being charitable here and assuming it's only a pretense).
>>2617601That's the dilemma that Russia faces if it discovers that the attack was for some symbolic Twitter victory against property and not an actual assassination effort. Does Russia write it off as a nothingburger and press onward, or is Russia forced to treat it like an actual assassination effort so as not to send the wrong message about the consequences of an actual assassination effort?
I think it was a real attempt. I think Zelensky is getting really desperate without wins to speak of, corruption cases galore, etc.
>>2615278Richard Nixon called, he wants his drug warrior back.
>>2617619kek, I'll give you this gem I just read as a tiny peace offering:
>Chinese naval exercises around Taiwan do not worry me, they've been doing it for 25 years - President Trump >>2617623just fucking do it, Xi
>>2617624quickly take kinmen, what are they gonna do?
>>2617549My hot take is
>Zelensky is an absolute fucking nightmare for NATO as a puppet, because he knows that NATO are desperate for this war to continue as it's their only hope to inflict direct military/industrial/infrastructural damage against Russia without it going nuclear, but in turn the support Ukraine has received to that end also allows them to threaten escalating the proxy conflict into WW3 when they don't get their way>Nevertheless, the west sees a Ukrainian state that is ossified around Zelensky's elected leadership as the primary stabilising factor in Kiev, his removal at NATO's behest in favour of a more docile puppet is feared to open the same can of worms they intentionally opened themselves in 2014 >NABU therefore exists because they can't just remove Zelensky via an assassination, either blamed on Russia or conveniently having Russia actually assassinate him, but they do need the funding to not be stolen as that also is not conducive to prolonging the conflict (other than perhaps keeping his backers happy)>All of this means Zelensky is extremely unpopular everywhere, the west thinks he's an annoying prick, his backers are getting denied the protection they supported him for, the military are no doubt fed up with their tasks being set for optics by an actor, the population who voted for him many years ago now did so to combat corruption based on his dumb TV show and that support has now been soundly destroyed, while the Neo-Nazis hate him because he's Jewish and their suspicions always were that the Jews were behind their own humiliations>Zelensky's saving graces were his ability to ostensibly win GIVAS from the West and the loyalty of the SBU via championing them over the military to win against Russia by asymmetrical means. These recent shenanigans over the EU trying and failing to hand over Russian assets to Ukraine has shown Zelensky hit his limit for GIVAS, he's pissed off Trump and funding from the US was drastically cut and the SBU is now also being pushed for answers about how they're realistically going to handle the consequences of an energy infrastructure war they started for opticsthus, if I'm correct, Zelensky is probably seeing his final days in leadership as everyone tries to transition leadership to Zalyzhny as a military mastermind (achieved by being nowhere near the military over the last two years) who will swiftly agree with Budanov that the situation is fucked beyond repair (not their fault) and the conflict needs to go cold and covert at the cost of "temporarily" giving in to Russian demands.
Zelensky's last hope is to do something outrageous that puts everyone at too much danger/pressure to be rocking the boat in Kiev now, but if he suspected he was going to get hauled in front of a fascist tribunal for pissing everyone off previously, he'll be lucky to see a court room now. Meanwhile, who the fuck knows how a "peacetime" Ukraine is supposed to survive at this point.
>>2617624>>2617625If the naval exercises are actually for meticulous planning or general readiness or whatever, that's a perfectly good use of them. Many countries participate in such exercises.
But if China is trying to milk some geopolitical effect from them (the way such exercises occur so predictably around the times of geopolitical squabbles can't be a coincidence), I doubt they still have that effect after the 5,000th time, and I don't think Trump's dismissive attitude is a ruse.
These Kabuki Theatre “Peace Negotiations” will result in Trump refusing to force a Ceasefire to end the Kabuki Theatre Inter-Imperialist Stalemate Retarded Slavic Border War (if it was up to me, their would be an immediate permanent Ceasefire along the line of contact, Crimea recognized as part of Russia, a neutral Ukraine, and in the future Global USSR, Crimea will be an ASSR in the Russian SFSR, while the Donbas will be an ASSR in the Ukrainian SSR) Between the Fascist U$/Zionist puppet states of Banderite Ukraine and Vlasovite Russia, who are both controlled by the same cabal of duel citizen Zionist Oligarchs who raped the vestiges of the USSR which was destroyed by the Khrushchevite Social Fascist/Social Imperialist Revisionist Clique, which culminated in the Gorbachev Capitalist Perestroika/Glasnost “reforms” and the phony 1991 “Project Hammer” Coup attempt which officially dissolved the USSR and put the drunkard degenerate Yeltsin in power, who chose as his successor the KGB/CIA/Mossad double agent traitor Putin, who staged the FSB/CIA False Flag 1999 Moscow Apartment Bombing which acted as the Casus Belli for the Genocidal Russian Imperialist Invasion of Chechnya (just like the CIA/Mossad False Flag 9/11 attacks was both the Casus Belli for the Genocidal U$ Imperialist Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, along with the final conclusion of “Project Hammer”, and the Mossad False Flag October 7th attack was the Casus Belli for the Zionist Genocide of Gaza), is due to the fact that Putin’s Vlasovite Russia is a convenient bogeymen to keep the EuroCucks under U$ occupation, so they can lose whatever is left of their sovereignty through NATO and the fake “European Union” designed to destroy all the Nations of Europe with a fake “European” National Identity (the absurdity of the concept of a single “European” National Identity is elucidated in the Video of the changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 years that I posted, which shows that Europe is populated by dozens of Nations/Ethnic groups, divided into several large Ethno-Linguistic groups, most notably the Germanic peoples, Slavic Peoples, Romance Peoples, etc. all of which have been Migrating/Invading, Mixing, Assimilating, and Genociding each other for thousands of years), which will pave the way for them all being fully Americanized into “White” Racist Redneck Evangelical Protestant Euromutts with a massive impoverished underclass of Non-European migrants (mostly Arab Muslims fleeing Genocidal U$ Imperialist/Zionist Wars and Black Africans fleeing Neocolonial Imperialist Poverty/Exploitation/Starvation) who will be brutally exploited by U$/“European” Capitalists and used as a Scapegoat to transform Europe into a Islamophobic Zionist Christian Nationalist Fascist Shithole, which will eventually include Vlasovite Russia as well once their Bogeyman role is no longer needed, and whether the absorption of Vlasovite Russia into this fully Americanized “Europe” which are all officially U$ States, is a peaceful integration or the result of a violent Civil War/Collapse in Vlasovite Russia after Putin’s death is hard to predict, but it is worth noting that all Russian “Nukes” were dismantled during the Nunn-Luger program, so their is absolutely nothing stopping an eventual violent absorption of Russia, though I believe the “Russian” Oligarchs will make sure that the absorption is mostly Peaceful, in order to preserve their ill-gotten fiefdom, 😂🤣🤢🤮!
Additionally, I believe that Trump wants to use the so-called “Secondary Sanctions” on all countries that import Russian Oil/Gas, as a convenient excuse to dramatically escalate the Trade War with China into a full-decoupling of all Trade between the U$ and China, which combined with Trump forcing the ROC/“Taiwan” U$ puppet state to declare “independence” and/or the U$ recognizing them as the “Real China”, will force China to Invade Taiwan, thus giving the U$ a Casus Belli to launch World War III against China, which means Trump will have Bipartisan support to use the Insurrection Act to declare Martial Law, suspend all Elections, and become De Facto President for Life, though this could dramatically backfire as it will either end in a decisive Conventional U$ victory (due to the U$ B-2 Stealth Bomber and Standoff Stealthy JASSMs, LRASMs, and Tomahawks, launched by B-1/B-2/B-52 Bombers in the case of the JASSM, B-1 Bombers in the case of the LRASM, and Cruisers, Destroyers, and Submarines, in the case of the Tomahawk, destroying most Chinese Air Bases, Naval Bases, Warships, SRBM/MRBM/IRBM/GLCM launchers, and SAM sites, which despite Chinese DF-21/DF-26 MRBMs/IRBMs and CJ-10 Cruise Missiles launched by H-6 Bombers and Type 052D/Type 055 Destroyers, severely damaging many U$ air and naval bases in Japan and South Korea and Anti-Ship Missiles launched by H-6 Bombers and Type 052D/Type 055 Destroyers sinking several U$ Destroyers and Cruisers, causes China to suffer a decisive Conventional Defeat and Capitulate) that will lead to the overthrow of the Chinese Communist Party and the Balkanization of China (Tibet and East Turkestan will gain Independence) in a renewed Century of Humiliation, thus enshrining the Global Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist 1000 year Burgereich under the eternal Trump Dynasty, or escalate into a Global Nuclear War (due to a DF-21D, DF-26, or YJ-21 ASBM, launched by a TEL in the case of the DF-21/DF-26, or a H-6 Bomber or Type 055 Destroyer in the case of the YJ-21, penetrating the Aegis ABM system and sinking a U$ Aircraft Carrier, thus provoking a U$ Nuclear First Strike on China, and assuming some Chinese ICBMs survive, and that their MIRVed Nuclear Warheads penetrate the U$ ABM system, a Chinese Nuclear Second Strike on the U$) that will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will Place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2617631>Zelensky is probably seeing his final days in leadershipI've been complaining for months that his face won't disappear from my feeds. Even if it's not Russia who removes him, I will graciously give Putin the credit for putting on the pressure that made the West remove him. I… just… don't want to see his face all of 2026. It's such a punchworthy face.
>>2617667Years of demoralized despair and doomposting from Ukros would be one thing, but that's not happening. They're hyped up on hopium. I've never been able to feel any enjoyment from seeing delusional hopium. I prefer the doom posts that occasionally Julian delivers, but it's not widespread enough. Ukros do not feel that they're losing.
>>2617671>It's not about reals on the ground, it's about feelsWhat a dumbshit way for WW3 to happen.
Humanity doesn't deserve any better. But I know I do.
>>2617667It is absurd, yes. What the people who say that really want to see is make russia look bad and lose. The Russia is winning too slowly just really tells what little they have left to cope about, or ever had. Ukraine cope really is the country version of the idiom "where there is life there is hope." It really is just acting surprised (to themselves) that Ukraine is still standing and then hoping for a miracle to bring them victory.
>>2617672What is on the line in Ukraine is the westoids right to feel superior and smug. Russia must not be allowed to win.
>>2617672My primary concern is my Internet feeds, and I'm 100% serious. I don't like Zelensky's ugly face, and I don't like NAFO optimism. I just want to fast forward to the point where the average NAFOid, or at least the average Ukrainian, realizes that Ukraine has incontrovertibly lost. Then I might be able to indulge in that sadistic pleasure with you. But you and I both know that what we see instead is "lol, Kiev in three days" and "lol, Ruzzia has been trying to kill Zelensky for years" and "lol, Ruzzia gained only a tenusous grasp on 1% of land in 2025… and had more land in 2022" and yada yada – and it's not just NAFO, these are the thoughts flying through the minds of nearly every Euroid subhuman leader as well.
As a nice addition to the Video of the changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 years that I posted at
>>2617664 , I have posted 4 In-depth Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with various Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions (ie. Germanic, Slavic, Italic/Romance, Celtic, Baltic, Graeco-Albanian/Balkanic, Armenian, Iranian, Indo-Aryan, etc.) across various Indo-European and Non-Indo-European speaking populations in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, Siberia, South Africa, and the Americas, in comparison to various Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions, along with a Chart of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Makeup of each of the Indo-European and Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions shown in the first 4 Charts, based on the proportion of Indo-European Steppe and Non-Steppe Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components, with all of these Charts coming from the same Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic Articles published on Population Genetics, ✊😜🧬!
Imagine a genie gives you
Option A: Russia gets 30% of Ukraine, but Ukros and NAFOs (is there even a difference at this point?) celebrate their victory in keeping most of Ukraine or whatever and keeping Zelenskys in power. They feel it in the feelz that they've won.
Option B: Russia gets 15% of Ukraine, but Ukros, other Euroids, and NAFOids post suicidal posts eternally over a loss they acknowledge.
I'm unapologetically an Option B guy, and I'm unapologetically too online. I derive no pleasure from delusional clowns. It irritates me. I get my vampire cosplay energy from utter despair.
>>2617537>predatory BeijingYou are a moron, Westoid.
>>2617614Inject jenkem into your veins and die, please.
>>2617700Jenkem is a gas, lol.
>>2617690Option C: from the river to the sea, Ukraine will be Ruski territory.
The co-presidents of Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega and Rosario Murillo, sent a letter to Putin, expressing their “most active solidarity in the face of the terrorist attack by Ukraine.”
“It is only logical that fascism behaves in this way, attempting to nullify the strength of the conversations that seek to bring peace closer,” they wrote, as cited by El 19 Digital.
>>2617706It wouldin't be any different from injecting air.
What do my fellow Comrades think about my In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis of the Inter-Imperialist Kabuki Theatre Ukraine War, including the Video of the changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 years that I posted, at
>>2617664 , along with the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Component Charts that I posted at
>>2617689 , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️🧬🤔?
>>2617689>>2617723You could've been a great eugenicist, maybe now you can work at a DNA lab and do ancestry tests for crakkkas.
>>2617723>along with the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Component Charts that I posted at >>2617689lmao, you kept spamming references to that when I was here last. Please tell me you didn't spend the whole month linking to it ;)
>>2617690Only thing that matters is that nato and brussels gets btfod and that there won't be any further war in Ukraine or in the rest of EUrope. For all purposes these accomplish each other.
>>2617687So what are the chances that the Russian elite remove Putin for not letting them get their Western profits?
>>2617761There's no pressure on Putin of the type the radlibs and NAFO bots would want. The only pressure is from hardliners, but I've come to see that even that pressure isn't as significant as some of us might like.
>>2617715Jenkem is God's breath.
Chekem, lmao
>>2617724>>2617725Comrades, can you provide a serious Intellectual Critique of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Component Charts I posted at
>>2617689 , or do you just refuse to seriously analyze them because you reject Population Genetics and dismiss the 33 Academic Articles cited in the Video, 🧬🤔?
>>2617715guess what happens when you inject air into your veins
>>2617780>Which will kill you. You will stroke out when the bubble reaches your brain. Anon was accurate.I'm sure he thought jenkem was the poop water.
>>2617787I don't reject scientific discoveries, no matter how much they contradict the way I wish things were. For instance, I don't reject the theory of evolution, even though I find it completely dehumanizing.
I'm happy to take your word that the descriptive science you have is accurate. From what I remember around a month ago, though, you made an unfounded leap from descriptive fact to normative proposal: you said that population differences along racial lines make a case for racial segregation using country borders and then got testy when people asked how this is different from the chud ethnostate. It's an arbitrary descriptive delineation to make, and you had no response when asked why the delineation should be based on race and not something like clique (nerds, jocks, emos, skaters, foodies, etc.) or tastes (music tastes, movie tastes, etc.).
>>2617802 (me)
The way I see it is that some people pushing for ethnostate or ethnostate-esque solutions are suspiciously "one step removed." They argue that they're not racists believing in some kind of personality or cultural essentialism, that they merely go by probabilities and want to maximize the
chances of personality/cultural compatibility. This is "one step removed" because you can instead go directly to segregating people based on their
actual personality/cultural compatibility (e.g., segregate Nickelback lovers and haters or Christcucks and non-Christcucks).
>>2617802If you find evolution to be dehumanizing your conception of man is idealist.
>>2617816My wishes are idealist. I assure you my conceptions are not. :)
>>2617826The idea that you could separate wishes and conceptions is idealist also.
>>2617830I'll try to do better, master.
Fam, give it to me for real with this assassination attempt thing. Are we getting anything fresh in the next few days, or is Putin going to play the old boring hits again? Most of the Ziggas I follow are speaking ominously about GenStaff receiving orders…and even Lavrov is quoted as saying there'll be a harsh response.
When you go to college as a lazy fuck and pad out your electives with lightweight shit like communication/media classes, one of the first things they tell you is that the meaning of a communication, pragmatically speaking, is what the receiver hears - nothing more, nothing less. That's what I'm reminded of as I read all these Z gangers on social media today saying that Zelensky and the West have misunderstood restraint as weakness.
>>2617830Unity of opposites and of reality is just as much a possibility in idealism as in materialism
>>2617839Dunno. Our lib media is already pushing the
>Ukrainian drone strike on Putin's residence didn't happen>But if it did it was understandable>But it still didn't and Pootin made it up so he could assassinate Ukro leaders>Nice try tho, wink winkschizo angle
>>2617870There's no unity between unicorns and horses.
>>2617873Okay but a unity of wishes and conceptions would easily be performed in an idealist system
>>2617878The unity of your mom and my benis is easily reconciled in a materialist system.
>@aleksbrz11
>🚨BREAKING NEWS
>There are reports of major activity at Russia's strategic missile bases in the Urals.🇷🇺🚀
Do I sound credible when I say that I'm not falling for this clickbait anymore?
>@AGDugin
>Tenté-regretté or FAFO we will say after Russian response to Putin’s assassination attempt. Not before
Is our favorite esoteric weirdo Dugin subtly throwing shade at the Kremlin here?
>@AGDugin
>The massive attack on Putin’s residence by Ukrainian drones is game changer. On the one side Trumps reaction (if there will be any), on the other Russian retaliation (deep or superficial). Moscow follows an algorithm of war where there are some redlines -not totally clear to me.
>>2617892>Tenté-regretté Translates to "attempted, regretted". I guess French FAFO
The problem with the "wise elder" leader in contemporary times is that a lot of these folks are on blood-pressure meds like beta-blockers and others, some of which will dampen adrenal response in the face of a legitimate threat.
>Trump just told Putin in a phone call after the attack on the Putin's residence:
>"THANK GOD we didn’t give Zelensky Tomahawk missiles"
>Top Putin aide Yuri Ushakov says Trump was ‘shocked and outraged’ over attack on Russian president’s residence - RT reports
Trump also reportedly began clutching pearls and almost FAINTED on couch.
>>2617911He then gathered his strength and rushed to the telephone, dialing the Kremlin.
>Honey, all you all right?!!! Oh my GAWD, I just heard the news! I hope you guys are all ok! Can you believe this Zelensky kuy?! He's such a meanie! New Cuckler bet dropped:
https://polymarket.com/event/russia-strike-on-kyiv-municipality-by-december-31-684This one is a tough call, tbh. I'm 100% confident that Cuckler will spam some missiles at the usual stuff in Kiev, but "by December 31" is the tough call because it usually takes Russia 48-72 hours to transfer air assets from the far east to airbases closer to Ukraine. So we're not actually betting on Cuckler decision-making at all but rather logistic operations, and we don't know what's already in the pipeline.
…I might sit that one out unless we get some good sightings from the Russian/Ukrainian OSINT spergs. I'd feel a little more comfortable about "by January 5."
Does anyone know (or can be bothered searching, but please don't rely on AI) whether Iskanders fired from mobile complexes in Bryansk have ever targeted Kiev? I remember Kharkov. Kiev is technically 'just' within range.
>>2617802>>2617815I am not promoting the creation of Racial Ethnostates (The video I posted from the prominent Maoist YouTuber Black Red Guard explaining how giving every Oppressed Nation their own SSR is not the same as a Racial Ethnostate), instead I am upholding the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination for all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question”
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_delimitation_in_the_Soviet_Union , with the reason for this being the Dialectical Materialist reality that giving every Ethnic group/Nation their own SSR and drawing the borders of the SSRs exclusively on Ethno-Linguistic lines combined with Voluntary Peaceful Population Transfers in order to make them as Ethnically Homogeneous as possible, will create the most stable environment for Socialist Construction by eliminating potential unnecessary Ethnic/National conflicts that will divide the Proletariat, reduce Class Consciousness, and destabilize the Global USSR, which combined with the Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution purging the Superstructure of all Reactionary elements (ie. Religion, Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity and the Reactionary Gender Binary symbolized by Women having Long Hair (anything longer then a Pixie Cut), wearing Dresses, putting on Makeup, etc.), will help place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️🧬💇♀️👩🦲!
>>2617979Bruh, ngl, it sounds like you're describing an ethnostate in some really periphrastic manner, tho with a nod to voluntarism. Maybe those other sources express the idea better.
>>2617921>transfer air assets from the far east to airbases closer to UkraineNAFO conspiracy theories
>>2618005wdym, pro-Russian mappers and analysts regularly report plane transfers from Ukrainka, Amur oblast in Russia.
>>2617671the delusional eclat/peremoga posting is done precisely because they AREN'T happy about ukraine's situation
the entire pro-ukraine narrative is just "look at this tactical victory we got today". if they talk about the overall population situation, the counted losses (ualosses vs mediazona), or the desertion and conscription crisis, it all falls apart. so they have to keep dancing
>>2618009>pro-Russian mappers and analystsOh yes, the venerable pillars of truth who have screamed about the successes of Ukrainian counter-offensive, about how 20k died for Avdeevka, or recently, about how Ukraine recaptured Kupyansk. No questions for these guys, truly the superb source of information on Russian military
>>2618028You can just admit you had no clue instead of digging in pointlessly.
Did someone attack the residence of the Putin the Meek?
>>2618040Yes. His humble abode has been a target of Khokhol ire. Cucktin the Meek has turned the other cheek. Verily, He is most Merciful!
Putin is not unlike the holy fools of the old Russia.
>>2617665Yeah, I still expect to be completely wrong and for Zelensky to live to 150 and asking my grandchildren for
givas, but shooting out theories according to present circumstances is the name of the game
>>2618040If nothing meaningful happens in retaliation, then I'm gonna believe Zelensky that it's a Russian lie, because that's an easier belief for me to tolerate than the belief that Mother Russia is led by a geriatric fool.
>>2618041The naive-Christian angle is so on point for Putin that I'm surprised it took you guys so many years to stumble upon it.
I wonder why the old bolsheviks killed each other
>looks into leftypol
ah i understand now
>>2618045Putin was always a humanitarian christian.
I get the feeling that some of the cucktin posts are secretly trying to express the idea that, if Russia doesn't nuke Ukraine over what they claim has been done, then that's proof that Ukraine is innocent.
>>2618053>muh innocenceMods permaban this lib right now
>>2618044I can't believe how resilient that cockroach has been, and he's a literal penis pianist. Even with someone in the West gunning for him via NABU, he's clinging on in ways few leaders would be able to.
>>2618054Why do so many people on leftypol have terrible reading comprehension? I'm the guy he's attacking, and even I can see he's not claiming Ukraine is innocent lmao.
>>2618051Yes, which is why it's surprising that this wasn't the angle chosen instead of calling him Cucktin, which doesn't even fucking rhyme.
>>2618058Because western men are obsessed with masculinity and cuckoldry. They try to see these thing in all men.
>>2618058Cucktin was an insult imported from /uhg/, calling him a christcuck is more contextualised to leftypol because, naturally, that's a more ideological accusation that goes hand-in-hand with the truism (that no one has ever disputed) that Putin is not himself a communist.
But to my recollection, it took years for that kind of thought to spring into life out of just reposting /uhg/ ITT and accusing us of already being /chug/ anyway.
Mods, permaban anyone who says cucktin for great man theory
This is le interimperialist conflict, though
>>2618045>so many yearsNah we knew it from the beginning. But it's not like we had any choice. Oppose Cucktin and effectively support fascist EU, imperialist NATO? No. Never.
Still, I can't deny that Russia is unlikely to actually start blasting on the homes and offices of "decision makers" let alone that of Zelensky or Budanov or some other figure in retaliation, because surely retaliation would have been instant rather than giving everyone a heads up that they probably want to head to their bunkers or flee the country while an appropriate retaliation is thought of.
>>2618067But the fight against imperialism is a sham and a humbug as lenin has told
>>2618067Yeah, but it's way funnier than 'Cucktin', but I suppose I can't blame Felix for being a lousy poet when the only rhyming insult I can think of is… uh… Helix.
Putin the Just
Putin the Measured
>>2618048All it took was for rubber to touch the asphalt, and western principles and speeches just disappear.
>>2618069Has Zelensky arrived back home yet? Usually these escalations occur while he's abroad on the givasnow tour for a week or two. I don't know why Budanov is still alive, and it enrages me when people suggest that this situation with Ukraine conducting attacks in Moscow against high-ranking personnel, half succeeding, half failing, and the Russian leadership doing nothing is somehow normal behavior, and we've been building a lot of rapport here lately, so don't do it lmao.
Putin the Monke
Putin the Banan
>>2618104Which primate is putin and which one is trump? Which one is zelensky, xi?
>>2618092I just wonder whether by this point there is even that level of hierarchy in the Ukrainian military, are they car bombing lieutenant generals in Moscow because retaliation won't be forthcoming, or is it because much of the military structure between Skyrsky and the blocking detachments just behind the front have already been eliminated?
The moment Medvedev opened his mouth, I knew not to expect anything really spectacle-brained. Putin would probably at least have to catch some shrapnel in the leg to knock him out of his stupor. If the civilian massacre in Kursk didn't do it… or the failed Kremlin drone attack… or the failed drone attack on his helicopter… why would a third failed drone attack result in anything different?
Iron Dimon. Dimon the Terrible. Dimon the Jackboot.
>>2618110It's not entirely clear. Whenever these provocations happen, it's a coin flip in the Russian info space between converging on blaming Budanov/GUR/SBU and converging on blaming the UK. I haven't seen any discernible pattern in the nature of the attacks on how the blame gets assigned.
>>2618117I confess that in 2022 my knowledge of Medvedev was limited to a few news items from 2008, so I was riding the 'wow' train hard whenever he'd post. Grew old fast, though. Nowadays, it's the same tough words from 2022, but he also gives cover to the legitimacy of the Drumpf negotiations.
>>2618124I think the problem is, again as Kampuchea anon said, every attack against Ukraine gets instantly memory holed. Even by pro-Russian xitter and I imagine also with the very doomer Russian war-reporting telegram channels.
Throughout most of this conflict, that is before Russia started their current advances, the big successes for Russia were fairly frequent cases different military installations getting Kinzhal'd or glide bombed. There would be reports and even footage of a military college, training ground, hotel turned into a garrison, etc getting destroyed with rumours that someone important getting killed that vary from indeed some fairly high ranking military officer all the way up to NATO staff or even Zaluzhny himself. But then Zalyzhny would surface and that would also discredit other possibilities in the minds of the Ukrainian infospace and the entire attack would be memory holed.
So it's a possibility that Russia conducted a successful operation to eliminate much of Ukraine's military structure, but because no one cares about officers dying a soldier's death, in the same way nothing within Ukraine is ever treated as having actual value, everyone treats carbombings in Moscow as standalone opportunist attacks that then go unpunished and therefore are massive successes for Ukraine rather than maaaaybe just being random attempts at levelling the playing field.
>>2618146>with rumours that someone important getting killed that vary from indeed some fairly high ranking military officer all the way up to NATO staff or even Zaluzhny himself. But then Zalyzhny would surfaceYeah, I remember that. Same with Budanov. But the problem is that these reports became falsifiable for us public plebs, so instead we started getting the pleb-unfalsifiable claims of NATO compounds being obliterated with two gazillion NATO officers inside. To be fair, I don't think this was some kind of malicious clickbaity design - it just emerged naturally as reporters and readers got burned and became more skeptical.
One view I've maintained from, I think around June 2022, is that Ukraine's heavily lopsided dependence on symbolism and fantasy relative to its actual military strength is highly unusual in the history of war (the entertainment backgrounds of Zelensky, Yermak, etc. may have something to do with that). And it's a factor that I think Russia has largely ignored, figuring correctly that its gains on the ground will ultimately prevail over empty symbolism and Twitter-style victories, but it's not an either-or thing, and it's a shame that Russia doesn't deprive Ukraine of its choice weapon. How many years did we hear about
118% of Russian drones and missiles shot down!? And you see these Ukros going around portraying Budanov as some kind of invincible super spy.
>>2618142Ahh yes, 2008. When Putin had tried to use xis Russist horde to turn the Republic of Sakartvelo into a puppet state. 20% of Sakartvelo is Putinist unrecognised authoritarian state and eternal bourgie Ivanishvili wants the rest to be part of Russia
>>2618170>Chud hunterThat is a sexy af name. You can hunt me whenever you like.
>>2618051>humanitarian christianDoesn't compute with being a neolib/neocon which is what he is afaik. Over here he would probably be a "conservative" CDU/CSU member, which is basically haute bourgeoisie + catholic church, the "liberal" neolibs/neocons (Greens) are close with the Lutheran church.
It's only an educated guess though, maybe i'm entirely wrong. The likes of Merz would never bother to listen to/answer questions of unwashed proles for several hours live on tv anyway. I'd be interested in Kampuchea anon's opinion on where to put Cucktin in terms of economic, financial, social, education etc. policy.
As to why he's so reluctant to escalate even after getting targetted personally my guess is he doesn't want to dismiss Trump because he's betting on him to help him thwart EU/UK warmongering.
>>2617671This is also correct, pro-Ukrainians allow themselves the wilful cognitive dissonance of on the one hand presenting Ukrainian military as professional, stronk and unbreakable, but on the other ignoring that most of Ukraine's successes are not on the battlefield but are instead asymmetrical and more fitting of (and indeed celebrated as examples of) a small, covert but successful resistance group.
For example that attack on the airfield where Ukraine hired an unwitting truck driver to transport a lorry full of FPV drones to the location and using cellular phone signals remotely attacked multiple bombers far, far away from the front was very impressive as a one off attack conducted by a force that doesn't have the resources or battlefield capability to just send a cruise missile at the planes, but they come away feeling like it was a repeatable conventional success.
Basically, they're doing the Ukraine Uber Alles thing most days, then Ukraine manages a car-bombing in Moscow, drones a civilian oil tanker in the Black Sea, illegally flies drones over neighbouring states to strike oil refineries just beyond the border, blows up a civilian train, blows up a civilian van to scorch a bridge the symbolism of which they hate, etc which is all impressive if you're the blue Avatar aliens dealing an unconventional blow against the military Goliath and they're celebrated appropriately as acts of ingenious rebel resistance against a professional foe in the immediate aftermath, but the next day they're back to singing Ukraine Uber Alles and dreaming of a conventional total-victory over Russia that may include Ukrainian soldiers capturing Moscow.
>>2618173 I'm an economic Socialist and civil anarchist with hints of Titoism. You?
>>2618181I have Bernie Sanders wallpaper in every room of my Manhattan apartment and believe that sheepdogs are great livestock guardians.
>>2618168Perhaps it's a variation of "boiling the frog", Ukraine wanted to deceive itself that symbolism and optics were going to negate the battlefield reality because FPV drones buys them the time to perform such peremogas for years rather than weeks, eventually resulting in Russia falling to political turmoil over the humiliation.
It's a reasonable plan, but of course they fucked it for themselves by still trying to also relentlessly push the front with various counter-offensvyivs, promises of beach parties and throwing as much as they could at HODLing settlements they will eventually discount as irrelevant.
They've been contradicting themselves the entire time, on the one hand they wanted to exploit the FPV drone "stalemate" to ensure the only war reporting concerns their symbolic peremogas, but at the same time they pushed
hard for actual real battlefield victories throughout 2022 and 2023 and refusing to concede losses wherever that didn't work.
Perhaps Russia has decided they can exploit the arrogance resulting from peremogas and allow Ukraine to ignore their self-ruination at the front in a kind of
>yeah yeah just bus more people to Kupyansk whatever.. Anyway! Budanov! What do you have cooking up for us this week in Moscow!?way, but that plan really depends on Russian military telegram doomerism not being infectious within Russian society.
>he doesn't want to dismiss Trump because he's betting on him to help him thwart EU/UK warmongering
My most charitable take is that they see Trump as dangerously unpredictable and erratic and feel that their rimming approach is the correct one. They could be right - they've managed to string him along for a year and produce the occasional headache for Zelensky, though I fear they're unironically failing to see Trump's likely hand (or at least approval) in this year's set of provocations.
Also I really, really doubt it was a 42D chess move by Putin, but the Wagner hissyfit will have signalled to Ukraine that their plan will work.
>>2618176>>2618205Eh, dunno why that didn't quote properly.
>>2618181You haven't read a single book in your entire useless life.
>>2618220United Arab Emirates beat Modi and Xi, AFAIK. Skill issue.
>>2618197it's not the FPV drones that created the stalemate, it's the recon drones. remember the stalemate started only ~1 yearish in
what makes this war unique is that literally every foot of the frontline is being monitored
>Perhaps Russia has decided they can exploit the arrogance resulting from peremogas and allow Ukraine to ignore their self-ruination at the fronti mean i assumed that's what they're already doing. the desertion rate is only going to increase from here on out
I don't expect much sympathy for this view at all, but everything that has happened (or not happened) from the moment that Lavrov publicly announced the possible assassination attempt on Putin to now would be very emboldening for Ukrorats. Modi's statement has all the energy I can muster for writing a birthday card to an in-law I see once every two years. Obviously the main problem lies with the Kremlin boomers, however, not Modi.
>>2618197>Ukraine wanted to deceive itself that symbolism and optics were going to negate the battlefield reality The annoying thing is that most of the Western European leadership and too many American political figures outside the likes of Trump and Vance sincerely seem to believe the Ukrainians on the significance of their symbolic victories and on the veracity of their fantasies.
>>2618223>the stalemate:-/ I hate when I put thought into a chain of replies and then someone pops in before me with something like this and stains my entire chain of replies.
>>2618168>>2618197You make the mistake of believing what the media says when it's a tool for manipulating the masses for capital's ends. Westerners revealed their hand very early on when they openly said that the goal is to put on a pressure sufficient to provoke a coup. They did this in Syria. They are trying the very same thing in Venezuela right now. Everything else is interchangeable pretext. Drone attacks are simply pretty pictures they show their demoralized population and western backers. I'm pretty sure the biggest war in Europe since WWII takes up more of their resources.
>>2618268>they openly said that the goal is to put on a pressure sufficient to provoke a coup.I feel like peremogas are still to that end, the fuck up is in Ukraine and its backers getting over-excited from Ukraine's military not immediately collapsing/surrendering and doing what the west
didn't do in Syria and probably won't in Venezuela in choosing to fight a proper infantry war on top of the "Sanctions and Bombs" regime change package.
But then they perhaps didn't have a choice there since neither Syria nor Venezuela could retaliate against the US or Europe directly, in the way Russia can directly retaliate against Ukraine.
In fact the drone attacks are probably more impactful than US "shock and awe" because no one is under any illusions that the US couldn't unilaterally bomb much poorer nations anywhere on Earth, while Ukraine "alone" droning Russia is more salacious in that David and Goliath way described earlier (but acksually Ukraine is also a Goliath and Russia merely thinks it's not David.. many layers to the narrative).
BREAKING:
>The Russian Ministry of Defense for the first time showed the Oreshnik mobile ground-based missile system!
That's the retaliation. Oreshnik strikes? No, no - the show.
I had the flu since Christmas and was in a Nyquil coma for most of it. Is the war over?
>>2618376Damn imagine zigger volunteers swimming across those icy rivers.
>>261837712 more years.
>>2618378it will be a gamechanger in 2027. as for the ukraine war, it's probably gonna be more like the introduction of tanks at the tail end of ww1
>>2618580>you did it tankiesHe was replying to Modi's account.
>>2618580>you want to keep buying cheap Russian raw materialsSaying this while the German economy is tanking exactly because they refuse said resources is mental.
Music from Swan Lake was broadcast on UVB-76, the radio station known as Russia’s “Doomsday Radio.”
Several hours after the Kremlin vowed retaliation over an alleged assassination attempt on Putin, a claim made by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accusing Ukraine, the so-called “Doomsday Radio” began airing music from Tchaikovsky’s ballet Swan Lake.
The same music was famously broadcast during major political crises in the Soviet era, including the deaths of leaders and the 1991 coup attempt.
The station also aired various pro-war Russian songs, including tracks calling for a nuclear strike on Ukraine.
UVB-76 is a radio station that began broadcasting in the Soviet Union in 1975. Until 2023, it was operated by Russia’s Western Military District. Usually, the station transmits a monotonous buzzing signal that is occasionally interrupted by encoded voice messages.
Although the station’s purpose has never been officially disclosed, some experts speculate that its transmitter may be linked to Russia’s “Perimeter” missile system and sends a signal for the so-called “Dead Hand,” which would trigger an automatic nuclear retaliation if command signals were cut off following a nuclear attack against Russia.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2006037333066338626>>2618613Russia larping lmao
>>2617671>Years of demoralized despair and doomposting from Ukros would be one thing, but that's not happening. They're hyped up on hopium. Uh do i need to post the videos from 1-2 years back of guys getting out of the hospital and re-mobilized? Do I need to post the video of the Ukrainian company commander who got fragged? Do I need to post the video of the Ukrainian commander who fragged wounded troops in a cave because they refused to advance?
>>2618636
stop spamming this AI slop
>>2618690The video is 100% accurate analysis.
>>2618691stop spamming your AI slop channel
>>2618695The video is fresh, relevant to the topic, and was only posted once. Cope.
>>2618697your video is AI slop. stop posting it.
>>2618613Radio pirates hack into UVB-76 regularly. 2ch anons do it every new years. Last year it was Shaman, this year it was the swan lake and AI shitpost songs.
>some experts speculate that its transmitter may be linked to Russia’s “Perimeter” missile system and sends a signal for the so-called “Dead Hand,”it's clearly not that important
>>2618700I don't agree with your opinion.
>>2617550>Geopolitics is bourgeois politics.wrong. geopolitics doesn't mean geographical determinism anymore nowadays it is a synonym for international relations
>>2618701Either way it was based. Officer class is never innocent.
>>2618376My conspiracy theory is that whenever the world is watching Putin the Monk to respond with saintly fire, the Ukros pull back a little on the ground to deaden all traces of holy wrath inside him.
>>2618378At least that defense laser is likely to be used, unlike the other shit Russia showcases to demonstrate capability without credibility.
>>2618710UVB-76 is a reliable newfag filter.
>>2618700>>2618695>>2618690>>2618286see
>>2618545
>everything he says is pretty much common sense at this point. He's really describing the death spiral of a society that consumes without producing, and tries to use its currency and military hegemony to gain leverage and force other people to take on its own debt, only for it to backfire, because the actual means of production are now in the hands of the places they outsourced to. Dutch and British empires underwent similar decline. This non-AI video from Ray Dalio, who is real, basically makes the same points.
>My suspicion is that the channel you are complaining about is simply someone in the global south doing whiteface to get more clicks. Because why not?fixed a mistake w/ post numbers >>2618790
tldr
stop spamming your AI videos
>>2618069>because surely retaliation would have been instant I really hate dropping burgerisms, but Russia's OODA loop is quite sluggish given the stage of the war, so I'd probably give it a week before writing off a response. The burgers are usually sluggish to get started (see Iraq, Venezuela) but then become much more rapid in response. It's not necessarily a bad thing to delay a response that isn't time-critical and collect more data, but it is what it is.
Kampuchea, our boy Peskov is at it again.
Putin is a legitimate wartime target, and so is Zelensky.
lol @ all the pearl-clutching Russian boomers making the rounds.
>n-n-noooo, the tacit agreement was PLEBS ONLY
Ukraine isn't obliged to follow the Russian protocol of not wanting to upset relations with the oligarchic partners.
>>2618830He's out there saying Russia doesn't need to provide evidence - which is TRUE - but ffs at how clumsy he is in expressing the idea. Even the Stasi had better messaging lol: "Our secret services have all the evidence they need."
>>2618838 (me)
>Even the Stasi had better messaging lol: "Our secret services have all the evidence they need."Just to be clear, this is what Peskov could've said but didn't. Instead he had the deer-in-headlights look and started rambling about wreckage and destroyed evidence yada yada.
>>2618842Interesting Zel went with that angle. He's basically admitting that all the NAFO cope we've heard for years about how Russia has targeted him dozens of times is bullshit. Pretty sure he's said it himself before, too. Otherwise, why wouldn't he use the more potent argument of "These drone strikes didn't happen, but they've been trying to kill me, and I don't hear any complaints"?
>>2617623>China has now warned the United States to stop all arms sales to TaiwanOkay, I give up. Dunno what I was thinking.
>>2618851I had faith that they'd outgrown the meme, even after the Pelosi nonsense.
>>2618861I don't agree with you that Cucktin's driving motive is christianity. He dgaf about that. It's just basic comprador liberalism. Putin still dreams of rubbing shoulders and clinking glasses with esteemed G8 partners after everything passes and that's what drives his timidity. That's expected from russian elites.
It is alarming however that China seems to follow the same mindset.
>you are liquidationist revisionist imperialist. communist china is absolutely correct in doing nothing. the constitution of communist china says "when the U$ sends arms to kill your people, you should do nothing and hope that ram prices kill the US empire 20 years from now"yeah alright whatever
>>2618873People are way too quick to write off warships. Moskva was just farting around in assumed safety firing the occasional missile at land-based targets and got got by a surprise AShM attack months after the Black Sea was wiped clean of the Ukrainian navy. It's not representative of an active fleet with a clear mission operating in a network where there are dozens of radars and anti-missile systems actively screening the sky against threats.
Problem is, that kind of operation is darned expensive both material and political capital wise in a post-cold war era.
The Russian navy clearly can't operate at that level anymore, but neither does the American one. The PLN probably can, though.
Russian MoD needs to hurry tf up and sneak in a banger of a retaliation before Putin exits his private chapel and declares forgiveness for Zelensky.
Is it true that hohols hole up their men and gear in churches, knowing that Russia won't hit them? That would be proof of unironic Christcuckery.
>>2618885It's a miracle that they have no qualms about striking them. I'm converting.
>>2618874>anti-missile systemsI put my index finger in my mouth, press it against my cheek, and take it out with a "pop!" sound.
>>2618890what does that mean
>>2618896no surprise, dennis was jewish.
>>2615865 Russia isn't behaving the way a country would behave when a foreign power attempted to assassinate its leader.
It's obvious that Ukraine is lying about the 90-something drones not being in the area but that Russia knows it was just some stupid spectacle/PR effort.
>>2618891It says it right there. He likes making pop sounds.
>>2618891But in seriousness, I think he's mocking the idea that warships are obsolete by mentioning how he deals with their anti-missile systems. Who knows, it's Tankanon, so it's not always easy to see why one dot was connected to another, case in point being the outburst about secret NAFO mods.
>>2618939>secret NAFO modsNot every tank flag is me.
And "anti-missile systems" might as well be pointless cope.
And every surface ship larger than 2k tons is obsolete. Back to Typhoon-class submarines with you.
>>2618943True, but that one was. I don't think you're lying. I think you forget about that time your reports of obvious NAFO spam were being ignored and you decided it was because NAFO had infiltrated the mods - rather than that they've become slack as fuck.
Correction, then: Tankanon is agreeing with the idea that warships are obsolete and mocking the effectiveness of anti-missile systems.
Okay, gang, I've decided we're not getting any fireworks until I stop paying attention to the war again. That's usually when the spectacles drop and drag me back in from my books and my MOOCs. I knew it was a mistake to rejoin the thread too soon after the recent provocation.
>>2618950 (me)
There is essentially a grand conspiracy against my productivity and my sex life. I've even been investigating a lot of unironic solipsist theories lately. I'm going to work with the scheme and try to get you guys a happening. Adios.
>>2618943>And every surface ship larger than 2k tons is obsoleteChina disagrees
>>2618957People are slow to catch up to the new meta. See: machine gun.
>>2618973Nah, they shouldn't. He is 100% correct. I was wrong that China behaves much or any better than Russia.
>>2618987I'm sure there's a clever pun in there somewhere about the sunk-cost fallacy.
Kampuchea, do 2ch spergs know how to distinguish between legit UVB-76 broadcasts and prank broadcasts by looking at signal strength or likely areas of transmission or some other nerdy shit I haven't a clue about? Reason I ask is that this latest one is getting a lot of attention from prepper fags and spectacle chasers, and I know for a fact that some of them are aware of previous prank broadcasts.
Option D: Russia gets 50% of Ukraine including Odessa and landlocks it. Ukros and NAFOs celebrate their victory in keeping most of Ukraine or whatever anyway and keep talking about Putin Puppets and Assad Toadies until the end of time. Burgoids and Euroids are eternally BTFO in the public image of the world and slowly bleed out over the next 50 years until Israel collapses and Taiwan rejoins China.
>@DietHeartNews
>Watch out what you wish for! If anything happens to #Putin, a moderate leader who patiently waited on Minsk (2015-2019) and sought a mutual security accord with the West in December 2021, his successor will be a "realist" who will not fight with "one hand tied behind his back"
Whenever I read Western commentary like this, all it makes me wish for is Putin's replacement, tbh. :-/
>>2617979>in order to make them as Ethnically Homogeneous as possible, will create the most stable environment for Socialist Construction by eliminating potential unnecessary Ethnic/National conflicts that will divide the Proletariat, reduce Class Consciousness, and destabilize the Global USSRWhat if the USSR destabilizes anyway and this policy leads to someone like, oh idk the Ukrainians just for a hypothetical example, to use this nationalism as a basis to persecute people? has your plan considerd that and what kind of contingencies have u made
>>2618871>aiming for over 1,200 total to counter a large invasion fleet, with numbers constantly increasing through domestic production and procurements like the 400 Harpoonsbruh china makes more boats than that per month, let alone missiles
>>2619040The defending side has the advantage either way. They could have the missile launchers anywhere. The boats are big slow targets that are easily spotted.
But beyond all that, I don't think the US and China will directly go to war. China is strong enough and smart enough to not get into proxy wars with their neighbors. I don't think Taiwan is really a threat to them that they would ever decide to invade. I think nothing will happen.
>>2619007Well, what are they going to do? Decommission their entire surface fleet? Might as well sink it with all men aboard trying to accomplish something.
>>2619042Yeah, about that domestic chip production, buddy.
>>2619042>The defending side has the advantage either waythey have
an advantage but that doesn't overcome numbers. and a battle isn't turn based where you put 1K guys against 1K guys and the defender gets a 2x bonus and wins. in real life they happen over time and the one with bigger production and logistics replaces at a faster rate has the advantage. taiwan would run out of missiles in a week and even if every missile was fired at a single boat and hit it and all the men and material teleported to the bottom of the strait immediately they would have replaced and fielded a whole new navy in 4 weeks.
>>2619042>The defending side has the advantage either way.Sure. China only needs to sink 1(ONE) aircraft carrier for the USA to be fucked forever. What's the difference between Taiwan and Seoul anyway? They are both held at gunpoint while the sides play chicken with the lives of everyone.
>>2619045What does that have to do with what I said?
>>2619055Missile launchers require missiles. Missiles require chips and other crap that US constantly sources from China.
>>2618866Putin's driving motiff is majority oil-gas lobby, minority President Office's access, and the right to putting changes in, secret classified documentation of Soviet era. That's fucking it. Former is obvious, but latter needs to be elaborated: Putin has inherited Central Committee's of CPSU's documents, and Khruschev-Brezhnev's rewriting of history practice, and all that propagandistic jazz; Medvedev, when he became president, had fabricated willy-nilly Katyn documents just to appease Poland (because Poland prefers to have been genocided by Soviets compared to have been genocided by Germans like in reality); Eltzin did the same as Medvedev, fucking outsourcing forgery creation to random ass foreigners, because they needed those tasty Soviet admissions of guilt to prove their historical claims
Putin did the same shit for Orthodox church, and other creeps, like that famous (in intimate circles) incident when Medinsky (he has a post of chief historical propagandist, in effect -
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%83_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8E post created in 2021 just for him!) when that guy got into a spat with anti-communist liberal propagandists over Medinsky's publication where he claimed that the fight happened in reality, with liberals tearing their hairs out trying to prove him wrong and citing German frontline reports, which are OBVIOUSLY can be trusted, Germans are not known for their propaganda, after all!
The Panfilov's 28 fight, where they've destroyed dozen of German tanks, is an inconceivable offense to Westoid historical "science" which claims that Soviets lied, that nothing happened, that in 1948 there was an investigation into it (but there was a claim that an investigation happened by a journo in 1980s, spurned on by a namesake of one of heroes when he, being a Nazi collaborator in Ukraine, wanted to be paid reparations for "unlawful" repressions by USSR; Soviet authorities, obviously, denied him reparations, and a sensationalist journo clown has declared with glee that one of Panfilov's 28 was actually captured by Nazis and became a collaborator). So, Medinsky, in doing his response to a response, just like waltzed in into President Office's archives and put out an article with links to documents from the archives, all that jazz, that proved without a shred of a doubt that the fight actually happened, and that dozens of German tanks actually burned. He did a concession that Soviets exaggerated the heroism, though, just because he could.
Similarly, during the SVO, SUDDENLY, when the relations soured with Germany and Poland, Russian historical science did find in the archives proofs of Germans committing genocide in Leningrad, and proofs that Katyn was, in fact, committed by Germans. Remember that 2022's hour long historical session by Putin? Or that Tucker interview? It's kind of funny how Putin, that boomer, gets historical lectures by Medinsky or others, according to minute propaganda needs of the state, and releases required historical documents to change the narrative.
>>2619037None of that superior naval strength is going to matter if the Chinese leadership has the same mentality as the Russian leadership.
>w-w-w-we'd better not risk WWIII by responding to what the US is doing to us >>2619060>None of that superior naval strength is going to matter if the Chinese leadership has the same mentality as the Russian leadership.Get into a war with a US proxy?
This war has been good for the ghouls in Washington. They don't give a fuck about Ukraine, like Mike Morell said, they just wanted to kill Russians to get revenge and put them in their place. This has been a great war for them, they get to kill Russians, field test their equipment, launder money, etc. They don't give a fuck what happens to Ukraine. Actually, if I recall, they too expected Ukraine to get folded immediately. They didn't expect Russia to fuck up as hard as they did.
Also if China had the same mentality as the Russian leadership they would completely flub the invasion and that would be that. Mounting a naval invasion is much harder.
cheek-turning status?
>>2619287All to attack Putin's palace, whatever that is
>>2619292AFAIK it’s the state residence for the president
>>2618943obsolete is a hard word.
as long it can be upgraded with new counter-measures, it's not obsolete.
>>2619384>The tricolor scares the mutt.based
>>2619399Modern ships have no armor. At best, kevlar lining to stop shrapnel. They started putting aluminium in them. Meanwhile, missile approaches are limitless - hypersonics reduce a ship's reaction time to "oh god, please let a satellite detect it first" and a prayer, while swarms of cheaper missiles mean any potential defense can and will be overwhelmed, and now drones have entered the equation. Nevermind submarines still exist.
Unless those "new counter-measures" are energy shields, anything that touches them will sink them.
>>2619464Gains are gains.
>>2619464Doesn’t look so stale anymore, mate!
>>2619451There's a moment of Euroid/NATOid/NAFOid trepidation after every escalation from Ukraine. Even here, we don't get the anti-campist/gore/uhg/k raids right away. This is because there's real fear about what Russia can do to retaliate. But then Putin shits the bed with inadequate retaliation, the irritants get cocky again, and the circus resumes.
>>2618873It wasn't hit by missiles
Happy new year to my baZed comrades
Russia won
Ukronazis: successfully target multiple generals in Moscow, try to bump Shoigu, try to bump Putin
Kremlin: sorry, we target proles only
This is the most absurd war I know, and that's before we even get to the whitewashing of Drumpf…
copy/paste King Lear emoticon…
😂😂😂😂😂
>>2619738 (me)
I forgot to say: 😜😜😜😜
>>2619737Happy New Year to all Z enthusiasts
May zelensky and all his crooked henchmen face prison or execution in 2026
>>2619744These emojis help to filter any trash posts.
At least the KPRF has taken a break from whining about the Yeltsin Center and whining about Khrushchev.
Zyuganov said that Zelensky is a terrorist and that history shows the futility of negotiating with terrorists. This occurred during an official assembly amid others calling for the elimination of the Zelensky regime.
You all have a glass of Champagne from me guys, alright?
>>2619751>This occurred during an official assembly amid others calling for the elimination of the Zelensky regime.Decent glimpse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lxqSfRo83w >@SprinterPress
>A strike with the Russian "Oreshnik" in 2024 destroyed the "Yuzhmash" plant in Dnipropetrovsk in a minute, Lukashenko reminded
>The President of Belarus emphasized that up to now, none of the parties to the conflict had attempted to attack top officials, but Ukraine did it:
>When they used the "Orekhnik" for the first time, some hotheads (Putin told me about this, we discussed it) suggested to him: we need to strike again at these terrorists and so on, or even at decision-making centers. >Putin categorically rejected this idea from the outset.
>Earlier, Lukashenko called Ukraine's attack on Putin's residence "the most savage terrorism at the highest state level".
Great Man Theory bros, we're dining big tonight…
>>2619738Guess we know who matters and who doesn't.
>>2619787yes, little Russian Ivan being forcefully vanned from Odessa matters more than Zelensky…
>>2619783Xi Jinping's new year address mogs tbh
>>2619790we're on the same page then, champ
>none of the parties to the conflict had attempted to attack top officials, but Ukraine did it
I respect Ukros for their rejection of class, ngl. Shame about the Banderite baggage.
>>2619783I wish all the millions of dead will haunt everyone including me in their dreams. Happy new year!
We're witnessing levels of cheek-turning we never thought possible. I believe that the Russian Orthodox Church still canonizes saints.
Russia very obviously doesn't actually believe that Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin. This was some diplomatic maneuver for making a few adjustments to the peace demands.
>>2619830another 5 m² captured 😎😎😎😎
Kirill will have to remove his teeth to make the Trump cocksucking more pleasurable. Putin will have to spend more on his next mourning ceremony that Trump didn't receive the Nobel.
>>2619835>another 5 m² capturedYou realize, right, that this also means 300k-500k Ukro soldiers dead, rite?!
>>2619830Please be LESS enthusiastic about defeating Nazis! You inter-imperialist campist viewpoint' is merely tolerated as of now..
t. NOT the mod team
I'm rooting for Newsom in '28. This is my first interest in US elections in forever. Why? Because Newsom won't allow the unteachable Kremlin boomers to play out their cringey illusions of MUH TRUMP. It was great during the Biden years.
>>2619846>their cringey illusions of MUH TRUMP.…which would continue with Vance, I mean.
Biden gave us Oreshnik.
Trump gave us schmoozing and "eh eh, we'd better not ruin the peace dialogue."
Newsom will give us 4K footage of Zelensky being vacuum bombed.
Get gruesome with Newsom!
>>2619851Really interesting place to be besides your vulgar support of Russian liberalism.
>>2619851Happy new year to you too comrade chagosposter o>
Bloody typical of NAFOids to spite ceasefires on Christmas and New Year’s lmao
The attack didn't happen in the way the aghast Ziggas on Twitter/Telegram are claiming, and I think that will become clearer as the weeks go on with no qualitatively different actions on Russia's part and with the same Russian indulgement of Trump's sham "mediator" negotiations. An actual attack like that couldn't have happened without US foreknowledge (if not direct support), so Russia's willingness to continue fellating the US belies the assassination claims.
>>2619903What ceasefires?
>>2619909The surely implied ceasefire on /ukr/ during Christmas and New Years
>Trump reposts article on Truth Social blaming Putin as the one standing in the way of peace
I can't stand self-debasing Christcuckolds like Putin :o Zero self-respect. Zero verve. People like this need to be pancakes under the crushing steel weight of dialectical materialism. We need to bring back some of the old medieval torture instruments.
>>2619915ooooh, I get it now.
>>2619838Thats pretty funny, not gonna lie
>>2619928Wrong post, meant the shot down santa
Glory, Eternal GLORY to all those who uphold the teachings of MARX ENGELS LENIN STALIN
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO THE EU
DEATH TO NATO
>>2619935>Glory, Eternal GLORY to all those who uphold the teachings of MARX ENGELS LENIN STALIN accelerationist smh
Okay, so the US is denying that Putin's residence was attacked. That would mean that, if Russia is telling the truth, the US is a completely untrustworthy negotiation partner and can be canned, right? R-r-right?
>>2619830But at what cost? How many lives were lost so Russia could colonize even more land?
>>2619941From my armchair POV, the cost of getting the four oblasts is acceptable if the Zelensky regime remains in power and a bargain if it does not.
>>2619830Russia isn't confident it can hold the lands long-term, which is why it grovels before Trump, hoping he can pull off a deal, instead of telling him to go fuck himself as an active participant in the war responsible for the deaths of Russians. Russia is still trying to get back some of the land it lost in 2022.
Ukraine isn't confident it can get back the lands short-term, which is why it begs for a ceasefire.
>>2619059Very interesting, if you are that anon that posted those threads on katyn, thanks.
ARE OUR THD SPECTACLES BEING HELD UP BY NEW YEAR'S SENTIMENTALITY?
>>2619835You realize the rate of advance for nov-dec 2025 is the fastest since 2022 right ? Russia managed to advance almost 40 km² a day, but I agree that in general the rate of advance was disappointing. Out of all predictions I made at the start of the year, about 50% came true, hopefully I got better at this, anyways, here it goes, my predictions for 2026 :
May : Russia enters Slavyansk, and while the battle unfolds, advances in Sumy, Kharkov and Zaporozhye pave the way for the full capture of these oblasts.
August : Kramatorsk and Slavynsk captured, by now, over 1/3 of Kharkov, half of Sumy, and almost all Zaporozhye have been taken, with the last stronghold gone, the afu is pushed out of Donbass entirely.
Last quarter of 2026 : Russia crosses the dnieper, to liberate the remaining part of Kherson/Zaporozhye, by then, Ukrainian military finally reaches the point of total exhaustion, with the Russian military advancing as fast in march 2027, as it did in March 2022.
2nd quarter 2027 : War ends.
>>2619940Yeah, thats why hes called "Cucktin the man with the broken lines."
>>2620008>40 km² a dayThats not really alot considering its spread across the whole line.
>>2620012This is starting to have the same floppy energy of the Kremlin drone attack and the helicopter drone attack. It was likely yet another dumb PR attack, not an assassination attempt.
>>2620040Wtf is this obsession with China? Must be some kind of amerimutt projection.
>>2620008Hopefully, you're right. Dnepr crossing will be tricky unless the Ukronazis collapse beforehand
>>2619941It's the Ukronazis that keep doing dumb suicide attacks. No wonder they have to open a new cemetery every other week.
>>2620123Why do you have to try uniting /ukr/? Why can't cuckler just do something based to unite us heading into 2026? I'd be the first one cheering if he actually responded proportionately to aggressors for a change. Since the initial invasion (which was based and exciting), it's been nothing but timidity toward the West (groveling since Trump) and letting Zelensky go around making a mockery of Russia.
>>2620135I don't know, I don't have a direct line to cuckler and I just found that image amusing. Cucklerists have good points but you brush with being a demoralizer at times
Putin's basic flaw is projecting his cold, calculating rationality onto everyone else. His enemies aren't like that at all. He'd probably be amazed at much how he gains from a week dedicated to 21st-century symbol and spectacle over WW1-tier bean-counting. The things that don't matter to him matter very much to his enemies.
>>2620135>I'd be the first one cheering if he actually respondedI’ll be the first to say I don’t care about you doing this lmao
>>2620183You'd accept my dance offer, and you know it.
>>2620196I think he's more concerned about Kazakhstan (possibly even Belarus) right now.
Mercouris bros… guess we didn't get those Oreshniks in the second half of 2025, after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41dKk_qYOvEAs I said almost a year ago: dogshit sources.
>>2620174Irrelevant. Reals isn't negotiable. I could be obsessed how many times Putler poopoo farted in public and call him a weak leader, if he doesn't do it enough, but all that would make me is a fucking imbecile and a moron.
The real criticism of Putin is whether or not he can neutralize Western imperialism against Russia
without triggering WW3. Is he calculating or naive? An answer that will only come in hindsight.
>>2620212>whether or not he can neutralize Western imperialism against Russia without triggering WW3.His obsession with avoiding WW3 is the very thing that makes it more likely. He emboldens. I get that it's hard for a Christcuck to have good judgment, tho.
>>2620217>His obsession with avoiding WW3 is the very thing that makes it more likely.There is no historical precedent for an empire faced with a choice of war or decline to choose decline. Escalating
definitely triggers WW3. Avoid it maybe doesn't?
>>2620196>president of moldova>world leaderlmfao
>>2620224The only way those porkies in DC and NYC are going to risk their cushy lifestyles in a nuclear war for
Ukraine is if they think Russia has flaccid leadership and will take everything lying down. There's a reason they hide behind proxies in the first place. They're not willing to risk their homeland for Banderite losers in Ukraine.
>>2620238That's what the personal bunkers are for.
>>2619059>Putin's driving motiff is majority oil-gas lobby,funny that they are against the war
>>2620244Yeah, I'm sure they could survive the actual blasts, but then comes the fun part: resurfacing to a radioactive wasteland with no consumers.
>>2619464now color code it by density of troops
>>2620226She's vaguely MILFy.
>>2620247You're trying to think rationally. Capitalists aren't rational, and neither are class interests.
>>2620209 (me)
Ritter is sticking with the 'stronk Putin' meme until the very end, however:
https://nitter.net/RealScottRitter/status/2006282143996006693[Couple of my comments in orange text. Rest is Ritter. Can't be bothered quoting it all.]
The attack meets two of the criterion set forth in the “Fundamentals of State Policy of the Russian Federation on Nuclear Deterrence”, published on December 3, 2024, regarding acts of aggression designed to be deterred by Russia’s nuclear deterrence forces.
This includes “Aggression by any state from a military coalition (bloc, alliance) against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies is considered as the aggression by this coalition (bloc, alliance) as a whole”, and “Aggression against the Russian Federation and (or) its allies by any non-nuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state is considered as their joint attack.”
Ukraine operates as part of a NATO bloc whose stated objective is the strategic defeat of Russia. Ukraine’s targeting of the Russian President constitutes “actions by an adversary affecting elements of critically important state or military infrastructure of the Russian Federation, the disablement of which would disrupt response actions by nuclear forces.”
Had the Ukrainian attack succeeded, Russia would have carried out massive nuclear retaliation against all of Europe.
I don’t think the world understands how close it came to nuclear Armageddon.
Russia has no choice but to re-establish deterrence modalities by physically destroying Ukraine as it currently exists.
The current Ukrainian government cannot be viewed as a negotiating partner, but rather as a terrorist entity that must be eliminated in its totality.
I believe the Trump administration understands this.
Europe does not.
The examination of the drone debris by Russian special services will provide specific technical data pertaining to the targeting data used by Ukraine, which in turn will point to specific sources and methods used to collect and prepare this data for use by Ukraine.
In short, there can be no doubt Russia possesses incontrovertible intelligence information that establishes a European connection to the Ukrainian attack on President Putin.
Europe must be put on notice that it is culpable in the actions of the Zelensky regime, and that any effort or actions that facilitate continued Ukrainian strikes against the critical national security infrastructure of the Russian Federation (the Russian President, as the sole authority for release of Russian nuclear weapons, fits this definition) will be treated as a hostile act by Europe capable of triggering a Russian nuclear response.
In the coming days and weeks, one can expect to see Russian actions designed to target and eliminate the totality of the Zelensky regime.
<lol… and… there it is. Anything less than this would make moot the purpose of a Russian nuclear doctrine in the first place
<he said it: moot. Yet watch him forget about this statement when Putin doesn't do anything different.and Russia under President Putin does not have a history of engaging in meaningless word games at the strategic level.
<huge lmao >>2620245EVERYONE is against the war. War was the last resort. Russia actually, really-really didn't the war to happen. Maybe there was a way to go forward without a war, but Putin's administration couldn't see it. Like, you see it in how Russia was betrayed when trying to negotiated after the war started, and people here called Putin a cuck for it
>>2620265>EVERYONE is against the war. wtf, I'm not.
>Like, you see it in how Russia was betrayed when trying to negotiated after the war started, and people here called Putin a cuck for itNah, the "gesture of goodwill" shit that led to the retreat from Kiev was more about Putin's chronic Christian stupidity than cuckoldry. It's chronic because, as he admits himself stated in that in-car interview, they'd been fooling him for decades.
>>2620265lots of regular people are for the war but the big bourgeoisie are notable against it because they want to trade with europe
>>2620261I think their intact self-preservation instinct is on full display from the fact they're cowardly hiding behind Ukraine and took three years to get to the point where they felt comfortable firing their missiles into Russian border oblasts.
I doubt Ukraine tried to kill Putin (more like trying for a Twitter victory while he wasn't at the residence), but they probably will start trying now that they've seen Russia's lack of vigorous response.
>>2620279It's not self-preservation, it's using the biggest sucker in the room to do your dirty work for you. And confusion why Russia didn't collapse yet.
From the way they were yammering about "technology transfers", they
really thought sanctioning a raw resource exporter, like Russia would work.
China just finished decapitation drills. It learned from Putin's mistakes. Good to see.
China isn't fucking around hopefully… not gonna have some Zelensky-like cretin globetrotting and receiving foreign diplomats to Taiwan as a thumb in China's eye…
… but Kampuchea is still correct that China hasn't advanced beyond the theater/warning stage yet.
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