>>2632346It sounds like you don't consider it a useful measure of where we are escalation-wise because they failed. This is dangerous thinking.
>>2632349They stationed tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus and it made no difference anyway.
>>2632354>Escalation wiseIf they could get an assassin into a room with Putin, they surely would have done it already. The attack on the president's residence is not indicative of their intent, the desperate circumstances for them already cover that.
>>2632346Russia says they tried to kill Putin. Do you not believe them? They produced evidence showing the targeting info was for the residence, and I doubt they'd say they tried to kill Putin if he wasn't at the residence.
>>2632332>US vs Iran isn't WW3 in anyone's mindThat's the point. Iran can respond and so can Russia. This doesn't automatically cause war or especially global nuclear holocaust like you say.
>The US continues to perform peremogasPeremoga is a meme because Ukraine is a weak and very poor country that is fighting for their master's enrichment. It very much reflects in Ukrainian Ukraine supporters. I get your intent with this word choice but it's not appropriate when the enemy is directly performing acts of war and building up to destruction of your foreign trade instead of impotently seething at a bridge.
>>2632364Stationing TNWs in Belarus is nothing. It's as meaningless as moving TNWs from one oblast of Russia to another oblast of Russia.
Notice why the Soviets chose Cuba.
>>2632366I don't care about spin, it was already obvious that Ukraine would like to take out Putin, that they tried such a flawed plan merely indicates they don't have the means to.
>>2632368Russia firing on the US is WW3 is most people's mind
>Direct acts of warArmed seizure of a civilian vessel is piracy at best and terrorism at worse, peremoga is absolutely applicable to the US if this is intended to be humiliating for Russia rather than open hostility towards the Russian military itself, which despite how slippery the slope is by now, the US hasn't demonstrated the chops to do yet.
>>2632371So why would nukes in Iran be a deterrent to the US?
>>2632385>that they tried such a flawed plan merely indicates they don't have the means to. My understanding is that they fired almost 100 drones at the location, and I consider that a huge deal if he was there regardless of the fact that air defense stopped it. I do have some doubts he was there, and if he wasn't (which actually seems more aligned with their behavior, quite frankly), then I'm happier to call it a nothingburger.
If he was there, this is bad because if that was Ukraine alone, next time could be Ukraine with some 'donated' improvements in intel, planning, method, etc.
>>2632395I suspect that's unlikely, Ukraine repeatedly does shit that hints to itself at its own ability to start WW3 unilaterally. I don't see this as any different to when they were shelling the Zaporozhye NPP, trying to capture the Kursk NPP, droned an early warning radar, droned the flagpole on top of the Kremlin, etc.
If the west had any interest in nuclear war, they'd not need to provide hints, the hints are Ukraine telling the west they feel they have "options" to force NATO's hand if they don't hand over the
givas. Perhaps the 92 drones at the Putin Palace was a message directed more at Belgium than Putin.
today is really christmas day for nafoids/cucktinposters. will be super joyous. expect a flood
>>2632402>We stole the ships, that's why we need to steal GreenlandLmao and the Greenlanders deserve it for not deterring the US by beheading a captured murhine
>>2632406>Still does not understand the might makes right mentality of imperialist Ngmi
>>2632409I understand that the "might makes right mentality of the imperialist" quickly becomes the "oh shit we're being outmighted, fire the nukes" mentality.
>>2632405Not really. It ruins my day when Cucktin shits the bed.
Is Twitter having problems? All the Twitter alt frontends I use are having problems.
>>2632154Agreed. They need a man of steel to make more men of steel and destroy the west.
>>2632402I will go see how /chug/ spins this.
>>2632454Heh, I've tried various approaches, like laughing at it, but it doesn't work. I keep returning to annoyance.
>>2632484Putin doesn't believe in PR:
>>2626742>>2626756 >>2632499Sad.
There is a funny battle between a communist romanian and some retards on 4chan about communism and the Plymouth colony.
small effort post on recent events:
As a longtime critic of Cucktinposting, I will make a certain concession today, not so much for anything Putin has or hasn’t done, but because of the trajectory of the US and its current admin.
It may have been fair to play along with Trump’s “peace process”, just to see where it could go and at least make the appearance that Russia was willing to negotiate and give peace a chance. Believing too much in trump on this could of course be naive, but regardless, giving it a chance while sticking to the main demands already laid out in 2024 was fair.
However, it's can't be made any more clear now that Trump was never going to budge from the Cornflake Plan (ceasefire on roughly current lines, entry of NATO "peacekeppers", resumption of war later when Ukraine/NATO rested/regrouped/rearmed). And finally, recent events have now made clear that Trump has now accepted that he will never find a way to fool Russia into accepting this. Carrots won't work, so his chosen course is full spectrum escalation on all fronts.
Things are now qualitatively different. The actions of the US in recent months have revealed a regime that has embraced total lawlessness and unbounded agression as fundamental policy, without even a pretense of upholding any set of laws, norms or "rules-based orders" anymore. The only law is the will to power. The only limit to the US doing or taking something is whether "it can".
Russia and the world are now dealing with a psycopath. Both China and Russia will have to respond with counteraggression to show the USA that "it can't" do what it's currently doing, at least not without paying a price it doesn't want to pay. There is no alternative. Appeasement will only embolden and prove that the USA "can" take more and more and will continue escalating. This of course carries risk and will have to be done carefully and intellingently. Russia and China have many different options here economically, militarily and otherwise, but they will have to get the point across.
If they won't, they might as well just surrender now and negotiate hegemonic terms that the US wants because that's where it will end up anyway.
>>2632496I'm more humoured that a simple question of what exactly the US gains from using military action against civilian ships, caused such a stir with no real answer other "might makes right". What is the right created by the might? Who knows, probably to use the military to perform other militarily irrelevant actions. Using the military to seize civilian vessel is like "taking candy from a baby" so is that might? Maybe, if we can just pretend the expectation day one from Ukraine and its supporters wasn't a no-fly zone.
Other answers who also ran are: The shadow fleet is made up of a load of ancient rust buckets, well yeah but now the US has two of them in its possession.
The US demands control over Venezuelan oil, hasn't achieved that yet, but seizing two tankers certainly is a step towards a blockade of Venezuelan oil.
etc etc etc
>>2632574>with no real answerI told you power projection is a real thing no matter how much you cope. I have defended cuck warfare in the past, but this is not the same scenario.
>>2632574As i see it, it's first, boiling the frog. If the USA is allowed to just impose made up laws and steal ships, and no one will do anything to stop it, the US will start doing it more and escalate to doing other things. rinse, repeat.
Second, the central US policy in the world now is about dragging everyone else down so the US can stay "number one" while not actually creating anything of value anymore. Things like stealing ships hinders trade. It's just an extension of sanctions/emgargoes. They could sanction a country but third parties willing to ignore the sanctions could legally still trade with that country. Now the US is basically declaring it illegal for their victims to trade with each other, and the US has a right forcibly stop trade they don't like. This raises costs for the victims again and, depending on how much effort the US puts in, can become prohibitive. It's another way to squeeze their victims and hold humanity down.
>>2632574>what exactly the US gains from using military action against civilian shipsDisrupting trade between anyone who doesn't comply. America operates on precedent law, anything that isn't immediately challenged is now legal and acceptable in their eyes. They will do it again and on bigger scales unless action is taken to make doing so more cost than benefit.
>Maybe, if we can just pretend the expectation day one from Ukraine and its supporters wasn't a no-fly zone.You aren't arguing with these people right now. They tend to make themselves known, especially when they think they are winning.
>MARTYANOV COPE INOh my Gawd. It's worse than expected
>It was never russian ship>Russia owes nobody anything>Read this bullshit news article by a RUSSIAN ADMIRAL this is what's really important. He's russian and he's russian admiral so what he says is doubly important.Actual quote:
<There are NO "brotherly nations" for Russia anymore, and this is a good thing. But look at this, this is December 2025 issue of Voennaya Mysl: Read summary, as you can see it is in English, and it is written by Commander-in-Chief of Russian Navy Admiral Moiseev. But then again, what does he really know/s. https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2026/01/uk-doesnt-have.html >>2632647Right now EUrocrats kinda look like they're about to somewhat uncuck from Washington over Greenland. I'm no fan of the EU at all but Trump should go to hell for kidnapping Maduro and the other crazy aggressive rogue shit he pulled off recently. It would be interesting to see how Miller and Trump react if several EU countries station troops on Greenland, which is being discussed right now even in our most atlanticist cucked lib MSM media. It's probably just posturing and hot air before folding and cucking out though, as always.
>>2632637>>2632647Any talk of slippery slopes at this point just betrays the reality that the vast majority of what the US does against Russia are peremogas. The key asset the US has against Russia is intel/recon/espionage and a fascist vassal to utilise the acquired data, anything else is for generating headlines that merely hint the US is prepared for something truly drastic and they’re just testing the waters with Russia, because otherwise the optics are that the US aren’t doing anything at all with their actual help being intrinsically covert.
>>2632967wish i shared your optimism. the us navy can do a lot of damage
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>>2633027The US and NATO understand what they can get away with and what they can’t get away with. The peremoga is doing whatever you can get away with and then allowing people to believe that doing what the US can’t get away with will follow. Similar to how the weapon “redlines” didn’t lead to NATO actually entering the conflict (and now that in of itself is boasted about, as no NATO soldiers have apparently died) as was often touted as the end game, we’re seeing the exact kind of thinking now that because the US has done something illegal but able to be gotten away with the slippery boiled frog might makes right slope is being fantasied about again with all the possibilities of end games now that the US has ostensibly been proven once again unaccountable for their actions.
>>2633108That’s the word! I’ll use it from now on lol
Has the West been ukrainified into a zrada-peremoga cycle, or that always has been the westoid MO and ukraine merely adopted it?
>>2633100seems like a lot of people used to think they couldn't get away with stealing russian ships because russia would defend them
>>2633150Well few also suspected the US military would be tasked with piracy.
>>2633143I definitely think the shock and awe concept has a peremoga edge to it, it’s like I bombed all your hospitals and schools so you should just surrender or I’ll you know I’ll do something I’ll.. but the entire time the primary aim of shock and awe is to win before boots reluctantly go to ground over fear of yet another Vietnam/Afghanistan
Oh, also hi “no caps” anon
>>2632395duran says it was a bait and that putin was testing to see if trump would try it
>>2631790>commanders to Turkeythat's demonstrably untrue. first, there's no list of commanders published by ukraine. because ukraine can play dumb with who was captured, in fact, pravda published this article last year arguing exactly that:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/05/29/7514554/>Commenting on public statements about the absence of Azov fighters in the latest exchange lists, Yusov emphasised that excessive media attention to specific names or units could be used by Russian intelligence services for their own purposesso there's no reason or whatsoever to believe all of the commanders were released.
that article also stated, in the lastest exchange:
<Colonel Denys Prokopenko, alias Redis, Commander of the Azov National Guard Brigade, stated that not a single Azov fighter had been included in the three-day prisoner exchange with Russia. He said he does not believe the Ukrainian authorities are interested in bringing them back.you are a moron. and for that champsoc is right:
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>>2634057https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/8/ukraines-zelenskyy-returns-azov-commanders-released-to-turkeyRussia denounces the soldiers’ return, accusing Kyiv and Ankara of violating a prisoner exchange deal under which the men were to remain in Turkey until the end of the war.
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>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Saturday that Ankara had promised under the exchange agreement to keep the men in Turkey and complained that Moscow had not been informed of the move. Unique IPs: 18