2000 KILLED ACCORDING TO THE GOVERNMENT - 6000 KILLED ACCORDING TO HOSPITAL DATAKilling workers in the streets, bending to the west in the sheets - edish
Quick run-down: Unlike previous mass protests in Iran the current ones were caused primarily by crushing economic conditions rather than civil rights, and so they carry undeniable proletarian character and potential. The true scale of the protests is hard to confirm due to conflicting imperialist propaganda, however the staggering death toll in such a short period dwarfs the previous protests.
Statement of the Workers’ Councils of Arak: All power to the councils!
>“To the workers of Markazi Province, to our comrades in Khuzestan, and to all the people of Iran.”
>For decades, our demands for bread have been answered with bullets, and our demands for dignity with prison. But today, the silence has come to an end. We, the workers of Arak’s factories, declare the following:
>Workplace control: From now on, the management of the Machine Manufacturing Company, AzarAb, and Wagon Pars factories will be in the hands of workers’ councils elected by the workers themselves. We no longer recognize managers appointed by the state or the regime’s puppet unions.https://cpiran.org/statement-of-the-workers-councils-of-arak-all-power-to-the-councils/Unconditional support to Iranian workers as they face the full savagery of capital on the local and international fronts.
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Didnt know Iran's military had means to disrupt starlink.
>>2644980Read Marx instead of working on vibes PLEASE you spend 24 hours posting your vomit on here surely you have the time
>>2644991I don’t believe Marx gave a definition for neoliberalism, since (the modern usage of term at least) wasn’t defined until the late 20th Century.
Iranian proletariat is fucked. There is nothing to be done.
>>2644945>doesn't actually think the working class has a chancethey dont if they are not organized and have exactly zero serious parties. fucking dsa has more members than any iranian communist party
Iran by definition cannot be neoliberal under the sanctions regime it is subject to, since free trade and integration into supranational economic organizations are some of the defining traits of neoliberalism. I am tired of retards who think neoliberalism is just a nastier way to say capitalism
>>2645011Use words correctly.
>>2645009>Iran cannot be neoliberal since Chinese and Russian investors are ontologically socialist 👆 this (please ignore european ones btw)
>retards think neoliberalism is capitalism but badUnironically agree with this. I use the term regardless because leftists find it spooky while every state in the world today is neoliberal. I <3 the international charachter of capitalism
>>2644963>imagethe british capitalists were so fucking retarded lmao
>>2645005>this retard thinks the withering away of the state is badIt's only good when the state is a DotP and society already classless, obviously it's not good when the circumstances are the imperial bourgeoisie is so self-assured of the impossibility of revolution and invasion via its global dominance and capital primarily created by non-productive economic activity, that makes the state loses its purpose.
>and that's what privatization isWhy not? Why does the term exist and more importantly the counter-term of Nationalisation/State-Ownership?
>this retard thinks the state (committee for managing bourgeois interests) policies the bourgeoisie Why not? The resolution of the committee is not carried out by one rich person bonking another rich person over the head with the approval of the collective. It is absolutely within the interest of some in the bourgeoisie to have all military production privately owned by themselves to sell missiles at $1 billion a pop, but prior to the end of the Cold War, it was in the interest of the majority of the bourgeoisie to not have that be the case since military production managed by the state ensures their capital is protected. No fear of anyone invading to take your shit (or thwarting your imperialism abroad) means no need to prevent military production from being a privately owned, for-profit concern.
>>2644953>Basic "don't execute people (workers) without due process" decency<lib moralismLel
>>2645020>oh marx said this that is axiomatically opposed to my vibes based world view?>so… why is my conjecture wrong?Read Marx to find out
>>2645020you are arguing with someone who calls hamas imperialists
That's why economic pundits complain that countries like Russia and Iran have the upper hand because their "illiberalism" means they can command military industries to produce, rather than in the neoliberal west where you have to promise big contract that will provide purchases long after the current conflict is over to guarantee their return on investment
>>2644967>nothing good could come from a government overthrow, only deeper reactionproblem with you idiots is your points are based on the presumption that a hyper-reactionary state getting replaced with a generic liberal one is necessarily worse because it's a puppet state of the west, or last thread's nonsense where that one guy was arguing no such thing as liberalism exists in the islamic republic (despite it being a liberal theocracy by all conceptions of the term), even that would make such a regime change progressive, since an ACTUAL bourgeoisie would develop, rather than the hyperreactionary status quo
>>2645026I'm pretty sure
>Techbros fighting to abolish the state is good because Marx said the withering of the state is goodis the critical example of conjecture here.
Guys Iran isn't neoliberal is it just integrated into the global value chain, has good standing with the IMF and WB, had mass privatization programs since the 90s, destroyed its labor unions, and has multinational oil contractors operating its fields.
Pvre Keynesian economics champion
>>2645032>a hyper-reactionary state getting replaced with a generic liberal oneno that would be better, but the superstructure is determined by the base and america is in late stage capitalism so it can only be hyper-reactionary. the only way forward is revolution
>hyperreactionary status quoand this is how we know that you determine how reactionary something is by its social policies not its economic structure
>>2645029illiberalism doesn't mean "non-liberal", though, which is being implied
>>2645035yes and its economic structure is hyper-reactionary, it's not just that they do all that horrific shit to their own population, it's that since that argument depends on the iranian state being "capitalist but not liberal" and also not ruled by a bourgeoisie then a generic liberal government is leagues ahead, by such an argument
>>2645033>>Techbros fighting to abolish the stateIt's another episode of liberals thinking their liberalism is under attack by other liberals
Sorry but the status quo you cling to WILL be abolished
>>2645032Iran already has an actual bourgeoisie. It's not the Taliban or ISIS, it's a bourgeois republic with a morality police and some superficial ideological trappings.
>>2645037My status quo, your status quo, or that of Iran?
>>2645028Hamas is as 'non-imperialist' as Ukraine is.
Funny how you couldn't respond to this
>>2644780 >>2645041It's one status quo for both you and Iran. That is liberal democracy, and it will be done away with.
>>2645043Not your status quo then, mask off much?
>>2645038yeah but i'm saying the arguments the resident islamic republic fans are making are absurd, and are actually arguments against themselvess
>>2645038>>2645045You're two liberals (one pro-Iran the other anti-Iran) who are in full aggerment that Iran exists outside of history
>MUH THEOCRACY MUH LIBERALISM MUH REACTIONARIES As if it's not just another bourgeois state
Funny how idealists are the same regardless of flavour
>>2645028Hamas are imperialist.
>>2645036except im not making that argument and you yourself think they are already liberal, yet a theocracy. the difference is theocracy, so you must think that makes them hyper-reactionary. As if getting rid of the religious element would elevate social structure and human rights despite not changing the base except to make it explicitly dependent on imperialism, instead of theocrats, which would necessarily hinder their economic development. The only way this makes sense is if its actually you somehow think its the theocrats somehow preclude them having an "actual" bourgeoisie, when in reality their development is stifled by sanctions and the imperialism you want them to submit to.
>>2645042>Funny how you couldn't respond to thisi didn't think it was serious
ukraine also isn't imperialist. being supported by an imperialist doesn't make you imperialist. comprador neocolonies dont magically develop international monopolies by being subjugated. they dont suddenly become so ripe with development that wage labor becomes unprofitable and necessitates export of capital to maintain a positive return on investment as the main engine of their economy. in fact its the opposite and they are instead super-exploited by the countries who are at that stage of capitalist development while forced into a dependent relationship that maintains uneven development.
>>2645055So Hamas is a comprador capitalist regime enforcing the will of imperialists on its workers, nice.
>>2645008iran has the strongest labour movement in the world with workers councils in the oil and steel industry, i used to post their statements here and noone here gave af because you are all manchildren playing with toys
you parasites fundamentally do not think the workers movement can succeed so you see nations like iran and russia as logical replacements
>>2645070I ❤ geopolitik and telegram war videos but i would never ever ever ever organize workers
>>2645070Post them in the general. There few communists here and we care.
and see the difference between these two positions is that while sovereign, they are developing. just not fast enough to your liking. there are two ways to go faster, do a revolution in the imperialist countries to get them off their back, or do a revolution in iran. both require a level of organizing that is not currently present. which means the first step is organizing, not endorsing a spontaneous movement of undisciplined workers who lack revolutionary theory and have no material base to sustain armed resistance. you people arent even ultras you are suicidal anarchists
>>2645070>the strongest labour movement i said parties. not unions. can you even read. are you even a marxist?
>>2645070>you parasites fundamentally do not think the workers movement can succeedwrong. they can succeed if they are organized into a revolutionary party, which they are not.
>so you see nations like iran and russia as logical replacementsthis doesn't even make any sense.
>>2645038>Iran may seem and act like another neoliberal shithole but it's not cuz le morality police Nice argument, unfortunately hijab laws were laxed and de facto removed from major urban areas following the 2022 protests when they began to threaten the longevity of the bourgeois state.
Similar thing happened in Saudi Arabia when social norms had to transform to accommodate the economic reality.
These two cases come down to one fundamental reason: the international character of capital and it's inevitable domination of the superstructure (what libs call globalisation) this is a progressive development that brings the workers of the world even closer. Even Afghanistan, what appears like centuries old reaction, is coming to terms with it thanks to its liberal capitalist base.
Workers of the world unite.
>>2645099>second picAnd then as soon as that happened poles stopped the bolsheviks into western europe. Natlib in 2026 is just dumb
>>2645186>into*From getting into
>>2645025Do you think Nazi Wehrmacht soldiers got a trial before Poolish partisans shot their asses? Please 🙄
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