/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Almost forgot: death to the bourgeoisie

never forgot: death to the aristocracy

>>2649904
in a perverse sense, this makes me optimistic. at a certain point, all the middle-managers and administrative figures have to realize their political overseers have gone completely and utterly insane.
i shouldn't be so naive, and yet…

>>2649904
>he didn't apologise
based pig

labour consider social media ban for under-16s:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2k9z535e08o
labour bans porn, bans twitter, bans 4chan, bans AI, bans social media…
we ought to be a utopia after all these cleansings!

>>2649937
The only thing the Stazi Arsewaffen won't ban are the jews

>>2649940
Brexit is historically irrelevant

>>2649937
>bans AI
they're giving billions to any bourg who says they're making an LLM

>>2649940
>>2649943
brexit only lead the way to being dominated by the US even more, while also allowing the highest net immigration in the UK for its entire history (due to repealing EU regulations and adopting a new points system), unwarrantingly fuelling reactionary sentiment amidst a cost of living crisis, irrevocably harming civic unity in the nation. the 2016 referendum itself was a farce filled with lies about harmful "regulations" oppressing the UK, with the ring master, nigel farage, saying that brexit would save the NHS. afterwards, this man plainly denied his previous claims on television, pretending to know nothing about what was alleged by his own side. after this, he hid away until 2020, where he did some news presenting on GB news, then went to cameo, and now has a new party, filled with the old ex-tory traitors who have caused the very thing nigel is purported to wanting to reverse.

>>2649983
the boriswave is world-historically funny.
perhaps the three funniest charts-with-labels in recent history are:
1. the 2017 election polling graphs, with a vertical line showing when the election was called and labour support immediately spiked
2. net migration graph with a line showing when the UK replaced its EU-era immigration system with an "australian style" points based system
3. the chart showing public support for ID cards, with a vertical line showing when starmer announced he was introducing ID cards - only for the polls to then flip and show public opposition.

>>2649937
its a good thing but done with bad intentions by bad people

Brexit would have only been good if it also meant exiting NATO, it didn’t

apparently, gen-z are the most religious generation in the UK

>>2650052
I've heard from other sources this is mostly bullshit and overblown - the study that concludes this is literally one commissioned by an evangelical church and its more 'gen-z are the biggest generation to return to church, post-covid, who where already religious' and its primarily because of the social aspect/dating aspect.

No new signups, is what I mean. Of course its represented like this by right wing shitrags to create a distorted narrative.

>>2650052

>immigration increasing
>religion increasing
Yup.

>>2650052
This has been debunked.
At least, religion is still in steady decline amongst both white Brits and ethnic minorities who have been here multiple generations.
Any slow down in religious decline is not due to conversion but rather to Eastern European, African and Asian first generation immigrants having large families. If current trends hold their grandchildren will be irreligious in time.
There are a handful of chuds who LARP as traditional Catholic/Orthodox Christian but not enough to appear in statistics.

i have a trans gf and i do worry that she will become a second-class citizen in due time.

>>2649983
>If only we had stayed in then immigration would be okay right now
you understand they are coming over from France?

>>2650095
>in due time
We're already living it sister

>>2650126
>they are coming from france
many of the asylum seekers, yes
but most net immigrants are legal, by work visa or student visa
there was controversy under blair when eastern european plumbers came down on work visas, but its nothing compared to now. remember also, the number of non-EU members which come here, which is only possible cos we left the union.

I think I can solve this Greenland issue guys.

Trump is clearly retarded and just looked at a world map and said "I want that one", but if someone were to show him the Peter's projection map, it would show that Greenland is actually much smaller than the U.S.A.

tl;dr it's a dick measuring contest again

>>2650136
Visa workers are controlled and can be told to leave, a la Australia, illegal migrants are here forever and god only knows what cultural shite they bring with them

>>2650166
>Visa workers are controlled and can be told to leave
yes. iirc boris johnson lowered the visa salary to allow for lower skilled labour, so you can effectively reverse this by outpricing labour
>illegal migrants are here forever
why do you say so? if you dont have citizenship and no rightful claim to stay, then you will be deported. course, its theory and practice, but if you get competence in law enforcement, anythings possible.

>>2650159
its not trump who wants greenland, its the oil company execs he meets up with

>>2650185
>then you will be deported.
and how many have been? 4?
And how much did the lawyers make from that little number?

>>2650190
Trust me bro, I'm the 'tard whisperer. The only reason he has got a full champ o the go for this project is because he thinks 'all that land sitting there doing nothing'

>>2650194
"WOW that's like half of the land on Earth"

>>2650191
>Government removes highest number of illegal migrants in 5 years
<The government's target to drive removal of foreign criminals and immigration offenders to highest level since 2018 has been smashed, with 16,400 people removed.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-removes-highest-number-of-illegal-migrants-in-5-years
i believe over half of asylum claims are denied too, but an issue is that re-application can be a process that clogs up the system. backlogs and all the rest.

immigration is good, it's britain's economy that sucks.
"economy" is an abstract term but specifically: we have too many pointless, parasitic, low-productivity industries. remember, there are teams of people who's job it is to argue who has to pay for your delay repay when a train hits a bird and has to be cancelled. (bird that lives in trees? network rail's fault for not cutting the trees, bird that doesn't live on trees? act of god, rail operator's fault…). people collect money for running privatized water companies that seem to exist only to generate work for the bad-headlines team at the BBC and for lobbyists to demand the government give them more money so they can generate more bad headlines and more lobbyists.
money, physical infrastructure, management, and general stuff is poured into this pointless nonsense instead of creating something of value - even something like real financial game playing. instead of productive billionaire slush-fund managers, we've got an entire strata of people who'll help you game our baroque tax system. (why, once again, does national insurance exist! for what purpose is there a second tier of income tax that exempts pensioners and landlords!?) you don't fix anything until they're (temporarily) unemployed and then redeployed to something better.


the government live under the delusion that any job with a good salary is "a good job" and a net economic benefit.
nonsense, some of the highest paid people in the country today are actively harmful to the long-term tax take and economic prospects of the country because they're engaged in total bollocks. their employer should be shuttered and their arse should be on the dole until such time as something new and productive is brought in for them to do.
the job of this government, really, should've been to re-work things to encourage this transition. it has failed dismally, supporting the status quo instead of subtly dismantling it. this isn't some radical analysis: it's what basically any mainstream economist will tell you. britain is, quite literally, an unproductive country.

>>2650203
why is the left-wing of capital better at being anti immigration?

>>2650212
i take it as being a matter of form and content

>>2650205
>we have too many pointless, parasitic, low-productivity… industries.
ah, right.
>the government live under the delusion that any job with a good salary is "a good job" and a net economic benefit.
its called GDP. more money means more gooder.
>nonsense, some of the highest paid people in the country today are actively harmful to the long-term tax take and economic prospects of the country because they're engaged in total bollocks.
yes, its called "unproductive labour", a category of classical economics
>britain is, quite literally, an unproductive country.
i showed it a while ago, but the UK is one of the slowest growing economies in the west, with wages that have stagnated for almost 2 decades.

Can somebody explain to me why I should care about electoralism at all? Why should I vote for the Greens or Your Party if I live in a solidly Hitlerian Reform UK supporting constituency and if reformism achieves nothing of value in any case?

>>2650227
for clarity: when i say "industries" i mean broadly: e.g. including "the insurance industry", "the politician-lobbying industry", whatever. not industry in the simcity sense of "the factories that manufacture things and pollution"

>>2650233
it costs nothing, it's cheap entertainment, like the BBC (assuming you don't pay the license fee - you don't, right?)

>>2650239
BBC has never seen a penny from me :)

>>2650256
good lad

>>2650233
You shouldn't. Join the Friends of the Filipino People in Struggle.

>>2650269
Just looked them up. Seems the NPA is listed as a terrorist organisation by the USA, EU and Japan but not by the UK? Same as the PFLP iirc.
Surprised neither the Tories nor Labour have proscribed them yet. But it looks like they're not able to run a YouTube or Xitter without it getting immediately suspended tho.

could wax worms help us reduce plastic pollution?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20240419-the-worms-that-eat-through-plastic

think waxing your worm would be rather painful tbqh…

>>2650203
They don't have the first clue how many are here, and they just float back over on the next dinghy even if they get deported

>>2650580
what would you do if you were in charge?

>>2650426
Hairy dicks are gross though

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl8n7zw0wko

The latest BBC article on Jenrick's defection. They actually include the following choice quote from his speech with Farage:

<He said the "final straw" was at a shadow cabinet away day around a week ago, when there was a discussion about whether Britain was broken, with the party's position that it was not.

<Jenrick said some people in the room argued "Britain is broken, but we can't say it because it was a Conservative Party that broke it", while others claimed it was not.

The lexeme with which he, like most MPs, disguises the tacit media strategy of power broking at the heart of the Parliamentary model is indicative of the general rot which has grown upon the flank of British society; broad divisions which are the results of conflicts in class that manifest as economic and social indicators are interpreted through an opportunist lens of petty nationalism that strives to impose one particular form of class rule through its ideal of civic order. There is no recourse to the portrayal of these issues except through those which form in their own image, because the machinery of class rule cannot adequately provide representation to them beyond that language it has for them. Historical contradictions in the political state are hence displaced within a material order that cannot as of yet resolve them: "Britain" stands as an empty political unifier which masks the blatant manipulation of fact regarding present circumstances in which the social decline of the nation is rooted in the failure of austerity, reducing it instead into an ideological bile which conceals the fundamental relation between capitalist and worker.

Hence this earth-shatteringly moronic and childlike language used in which the total set of social relations within Britain are embodied in a power struggle and succession of one faction of the petite-bourgeoisie over the other, this operation seeming to be the mere recourse of necessity as British capital is forced into ever progressively reactionary policy measures in order to maintain its standing within the international order. The social fractures which have emerged in the present day as a result of the sustained conflicts against workers within Britain will deepen and intensify as its political rule becomes more regressive over time. It is absolutely farcical that Jenrick has decided to scuttle into the arms of Reform as it is nothing more than a rat fleeing a sinking ship.

I just watched 28 Years Later the Bone Totem, it was alright though suffered from 2nd in a trilogy problems. But there were a lot of good things, I liked the doctor talking to Samson and the Jimmy gang. It is kind of funny though that everyone after the intro collapses after getting stabbed once and then it takes ages for them to die, when really you can get stabbed many times and keep fighting, then immediately die of shock at some random point.

I'm disappointed with Your Party and the Green Party going with the path of democracy. We actually need a dictator with a great vision, not compromise.