>>2732049this is funny but also a sign of how capitalism is becoming a cultural force inside the PRC.
>>2732683>muh SovietsThey have no meaningful power and are subordinate, ultimately, to the Politburo, which is not an elected body and is accountable to no one. It's not a bottom-up system, it's a top-down system.
>>2732691If you meet the average person you’d know why democracy is a bad idea
>>2732688I didn't say it was illegal, I know it's legal. But they also can't get married and media is (mostly) scrubbed of them because it's illegal to "promote" it.
>>2732692If you knew anything about the average head of state you'd know why it's better to trust the average person
>>2732693They’re in the middle of reforming civl partnerships to the point where it will be indistinguishable legally and bureaucratically from marriage without pissing off the religious and the rural populations
>>2732695Or perhaps humans are just inherently untrustworthy
>>2732702That only makes my case better, because if there's elections, we can at least punish leaders we don't like.
>>2732710Elections are charisma and popularity contests, that’s neither objective or scientific
>>2732715Politics aren't scientific or objective anyway so I don't see your point.
>>2732720If you want good outcomes they need to be
>>2732726Hypothetically you're right, but there's no way I can think of to create an incentive structure that ensures it.
>>2732749That’s why I’ve given up on politics, it’s gonna have to be non human animals to pick up the pieces
>>2732720>Politics aren't scientific or objective anyway so I don't see your point.What. Then why make a big deal about whether democracy? If there is no set of arguments and facts for why representative democracy works, then it shouldn't be placed on a pedestal above other forms of goverment.
Did you guys know that the KMT declared the primary enforcer of the Three Alls Policy to be Not Guilty of war crimes at the Shanghai Trials?
Apparently they saw it as nothing more than a great anti-Communist operation, something that they wanted to mimic, and so they hired him, Yasuji Okamura, as an advisor against the Communists during the Chinese Civil War.
Here's Mao seething about it in 1949.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-4/mswv4_52.htm>>2733558And pla's artillery corps were made up of japanese soldiers. Your point.
>>2733558another weird fact about the sino japanese war was how general matsui (rape of nanking general) was best friends with sun yat sen, and other sun yat sen era chinese nationalist figures.
T b f him he didnt want nanking to happen but still its ironic. The genuine pan asianist was connected to the rape of all people.
>>2732674>without elections lol they have elections you retard
>anti-queerno
>no porn its exactly the kind of thing that will always get through the bans anyway, and preventing capitalist exploitation of it is good
>>2732674> without elections there is no way to enforce democratic will because there is no punishment for straying from itHow's that democratic will working out for the West at the moment with all the wars?
>>2732674>-no porn (very important)If you think Chinese people aren't watching porn I don't know what to tell you.
>>2733668They arent watching porn. They are fucking.
>Chinese elections
May we see them? I'd love to know who was running against who, what their platforms were, and how many votes they got
>>2733029Because the fact all politics are ultimately subjective judgments doesn't change the fact I have preferences, it's merely an acknowledgement that they *are* preferences, not laws of reality. All politics are ultimately struggles between factions with differing preferences for the control and use of power structures, even if it's as petty as "I want to be in charge instead of you so I can loot the treasury for myself" or something.
>>2733668There's no legal way to do it and that's not ok
>>2733640In order:
No they don't (elections mean nothing if opposition is banned)
Yes they are (being legal is the bare fucking minimum, let's have higher standards please)
Pathetic excuse. Porn is not inherently exploitative in its production, that idea is just an excuse to ban it by people who don't like it.
>>2691113They have an advantage in that Mossad agents are unlikely to pass as Chinese-born
>>2733560Looking for a source on this.
>>2733581>The genuine pan asianist was connected to the rape of all people.I think Matsui Iwane himself has a quote about something like how Japan is the loving Father within the family structure of the Asian nations, and therefore Japan has the right to corporal punishment if the other nations stray from the interest of the family. That's just how Pan-Asianism was understood.
Also, Sun Yat-sen was quite pro-Japan, in the sense that he advocated for looking at Japan as a model for removing the unequal treaties and how an Asian culture can modernize. So Matsui being agreeable when Chinese nationalist leaders had that position of looking up to Japan is also not so crazy. The Reorganized China government positioned itself as the successor to Sun Yat-sen's ROC, saying it was staying true to Sun's desire for China to be friendly with and learn from Japan. They even tried to build the Wang Jingwei mausoleum right next to Sun Yat-sen's.
>>2734154>mug bourgeois democracy is the only way to conduct elections!fucking kys retard lib
>>2734692There is no way to ensure a socialist country remains democratic without competitive elections unless you believe your movement happens to be led by some Platonic Socialist Philospher King. But even if you claim that Ill never trust you, because every despot that wants to take over under the guise of serving the people claims that. The risk cannot be taken.
>>2734700Elections are bad, actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_EpsteinWe got our Epstein, but he was good guy LMAO
Israel Epstein[a] (20 April 1915 – 26 May 2005) was a Chinese journalist. Born in Poland, Epstein was one of the few foreign-born Chinese citizens of non-Chinese origin to become a member of the Chinese Communist Party.
Early life and education
Israel Epstein was born on 20 April 1915 in Warsaw to Jewish parents;[1][2] Warsaw was then part of Congress Poland, which was under Imperial Russian control. His father had been imprisoned by the authorities of Tsarist Russia for leading a labor uprising and his mother had been exiled to Siberia. Epstein's father was sent by his company to Japan after the outbreak of World War I; when the German Army approached Warsaw, his mother and Epstein fled and joined him in Asia. With his family experiencing anti-Jewish sentiment in several places, in 1917, Epstein came to China with his parents at the age of two and they settled in Tianjin in 1920. Epstein was raised there.[2]
>>2703080This article and book are excellent, I highly recommend.
(Also don't bother with that one written by Roland Boer he one of the biggest distorters of Marxism with him being a Calvinist theologian).
>>2743203>automate cement>simultaneously invest in green building material sectortruly based
Why is there no talk about the new 5-year-plan?
>>2744461China is still trying to catch up but there's no harm in importing the latest batch of American spyware to see what NATO is up to.
>>2689967It's the bust of Lenin near the magnetic south pole.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/southern-pole-of-inaccessibility>>2743401I can't imagine what it's like to be Gazan. So many technologies that the rest of the world uses innocuously is just for violence and oppression there. Shit's fucked
>>2744461They made fun of China's car industry too, now they say nothing. Just give them time
>>2744668>>2744755Those are old chips though. There's no point in importing them.
>>2745003ofc there is, cheap computing power when your own industry hasnt reached enough production to completely fulfill your need yet
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