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>>2759758
If you can’t even uncuck your language you’ll never move forward

The CPC has mastered dromology, using dialectics to speed up, compress and govern time. If contradictions are forces, policy is the modulation of speed, and state capacity is the control over acceleration. Five year plans with long term goals like 2035/2049 structures tempo. The faster you resolve contradictions, the more you must keep accelerating to stay ahead of new ones. New quality productive forces is the next frontier of this accelerated timeline of historical materialism.

>>2760238
thats just capitalism but whatever

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>>2760241
nah, see india >>2748251 where dialectical change proceeds more slowly and unevenly. crisis from a contradiction can sometimes slow the process down further. for instance, rent seeking behavior is weakening the manufacturing sector and hindering industrialization in india. in LatAM, they hit a point where instability from contradictions caused long term stagnation. they're getting bossed around by the dialectical tiger, while china rides it. china can amplify feedbacks loops while accelerating development via the ML state apparatus. they sequence and manage the structural contradictions fast forwarding themselves through historical materialism now at the frontier of 4th industrial revolution tech (renewable energy, ai, robotics, automation, nuclear/fission energy, etc). they will have the industrial base to manufacture, scale and export it to others triggering a qualitative leap in structural contradictions between forces of production and relations of productions elsewhere >>2718693

>>2760303
buzzword alert

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>>2760305
thanks for adding to the discussion

>>2760303
>pic
Man, India isn't in great shape

>China has exported cargoes of diesel and other fuels to energy-starved countries across Southeast Asia over the weekend, in what appears to be a signal of support despite export curbs imposed earlier this month.
>Tankers Ding Heng 36 and Auchentoshan delivered more than 260,000 barrels of diesel to the Philippines at the weekend, according to vessel tracking data compiled by Bloomberg. Great Ocean delivered about 100,000 barrels of distillate fuels to Vietnam over the same period, potentially alleviating shortages of oil products including diesel.
https://archive.ph/Oye1j

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He is innocent and you can't convince me otherwise.

>>2760241
the capitalist needs human labor power to profit. total automation is not profitable and in fact pushes profit rates closer and closer to zero. automation only provides profits when one industry is ahead of other industries, but when all industries adopt a technology profit rates fall, because there is less human labor power to exploit, and because the socially necessary labor time required to creat the commodity decreases. Only a socialist government, transitioning from capitalism to communism, has the political will to pursue total automation like china has. Meanwhile capitalist governments are pursuing imperialism, enslavement, and the destruction of prouductive forces. Read chapter 3 of Rajani Palme Dutt's Fascism and Social Revolution. Particularly the sections titled "The destruction of the productive forces" and "The revolt against science."

>>2761422
China is not pursuing "total automation", it only works for them because it provides an edge on the global market, and besides the African mines anti-imperialistically feeding their inputs are manned by very cheap very manual labor force

>>2759457
>why is Chynah sitting out on getting back Taiwan right now?
Military build up is not ready. Better to start wars on your own terms.

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Goldman Sachs: China looks better placed than most in this oil shock
It estimates that the US economy will be *twice* more affected (negatively) than the Chinese economy by the oil supply shock.
>The Chinese economy appears better positioned amid the oil supply shock than its global peers […] Due to the oil shock, our economists have trimmed China's real GDP growth forecast by 20bps compared to 40bps for the US

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>>2761422
individual actors (e.g. firms, the bourgeoise as economic actors) will still pursue automation even if, in aggregate, it contributes to falling profit rates. competition forces their hand. if firm A automates and lowers costs, it can undercut firm B. firm B must automate or lose market share (or go bankrupt). so even if the system-wide effect is lower profit rates, each firm has a rational incentive to automate. however, you would be right to say that china is more efficient at automatizing its sectors because it has a marxist leninist state structure. the state own the banks and can rapidly redirect credit to sectors deemed by the state to be strategically necessary (semiconductors, EVs, robotics, etc). the cpc has a monopoly on political power that further reduces the fetters caused by the logic of capital through mechanisms of long term planning, coordination, and state discipline. in the liberal west, financial capital takes over and prioritize shareholder value often leading to unproductive rent seeking behavior. bourgeoise democracy prioritize policies with immediate political gains instead of long-term industrial development. however, this doesn't mean firms won't automate their workforce, it will just be a slower process compared to china, which now has automation and robotic development as part of its 15th five-year plan, which is basically a state level AI mobilization document. it pushes AI across the economy (manufacturing, logistics, healthcare, etc) in order to deliberately move towards a higher stage of socialism for its China 2035 and China 2049 plans.

>>2759837
Well maybe Proudhonism disguised as Communism won and instead of being mad about it you should consider what went "wrong"

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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/global-banks-seek-refuge-china-stocks-iran-war-drags-2026-03-31/

Global banks seek refuge in China stocks as Iran war drags on

SINGAPORE, March 31 (Reuters) - Chinese stocks are fast emerging as a relative safe haven as a month-long war in the ​Middle East saps global risk sentiment, with investment banks ‌increasingly bullish on a market that has held up better than its regional peers in March.

Markets have been rattled ​this month after the Iran war effectively ​shut the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint ⁠for about a fifth of global oil and ​gas flows, sending crude oil prices surging and ​weighing on equity markets worldwide.

  • J.P. Morgan listed China as its most preferred market in the region this ​month, citing the country's low dependence on Gulf energy and ​ample fiscal support capacity.
  • HSBC remained "overweight" on China, saying the market ‌offers ⁠defensive qualities underpinned by a largely domestic investor base and a stable currency.
  • China's benchmark Shanghai Composite Index (.SSEC), opens new tab has lost 6% so far in March, compared with an 18% drop in South Korean stocks (.KS11), opens new tab and a roughly ​13% decline in Japan's Nikkei (.N225), opens new tab.
  • BNP ​strategists said ⁠China's relative outperformance versus the rest of Asia will likely become increasingly pronounced the ​longer the U.S.-Israel war with Iran drags on.
  • Strategists ​at ⁠Goldman Sachs said the Chinese economy appears better positioned than several global peers to weather the oil supply ⁠shock, pointing ​to years of energy diversification, rising strategic oil ​reserves and access to supply from outside the Middle East.

>>2761505
There is no bourgeoisie in China. Socialist automation increases social aggregate product and makes workers richer

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>>2759837
>Under socialism, nobody should own a home.
You're literally arguing the dumbass version of the rightist meme that nobody owns anything under communism. Marx made a clear distinction between personal property (your clothes, furniture, your home) and private property used for profit. In China, rural land is owned collectively by village communities and urban land is owned by the state aka the DoTP. Marx did not argue against personal posessions. You can still own personal property on the land like a house, clothes, furniture, and everyday belongings. China has long had (and continutes to have) a state monopoly on critical sectors like banking, steel, rail, heavy equipment, aviation, forestry, telecoms, oil, ocean shipping, utilities, the media, etc., but as Michael Roberts have said, previous Chinese governments in the 90's made a mistake in trying to meet the housing needs of its burgeoning urban population by creating a housing for sale market. Xi is correcting this with his Three Red Lines policy where China's property sector is becoming effectively nationalized.

>>2763444
>Marx made a clear distinction between personal property (your clothes, furniture, your home) and private property used for profit
NTA but I used to say this a lot, and then one day another anon on here asked me for a citation and I couldn't provide one. He kept insisting it was because "Marx never said that and you just disagree with Marx." I've been looking for one since then. Do you know where he says this? I'm pretty sure he says this but I can't find it.

>>2763459
He doesn’t lay it out as a neat, formal definition in one single place, but he does clearly draw the distinction across several key texts, especially when responding to critics. For instance, in The Communist Manifesto he clearly states: "The distinguishing feature of Communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property." He then clarifies that communists are not trying to abolish personal possessions: "Communism deprives no man of the power to appropriate the products of society…" For example, in vast rural areas of China, farmers live in self-built houses, grow vegetable gardens, and have front yards, backyards, and land around their homes. Villagers receive usage rights from the local collective where each household typically has their own residential plot (for the house and yard) and access to farmland plots for growing crops.

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>>2763478
thank you anon.

>>2763444
Yes, centralized control of real-estate investment trusts, rental units, asset-backed securities and so on is the way. I am glad that they are working on the problem. Homeownership is still nothing to boast about.

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CCP stands for Chinese Cuckhold Party. Legit, they keep trading with Israel and did jack shit to aid Iran and Cuba, all the while waxing poetic about "non-interventionism" which in theory is meant to counter us wilsonianism but in practice just allows imperial capital to carry out its worst excesses like not even when the USSR was this pathetic, selfish and self absorbed as a degenerated socialist state because the truth is they abandoned the cause of the international proletariat forty years ago and are basically conservative state capitalists. DeepSeek is probably powered by the spinning corpse of Mao lol.

>>2764731
they back every horse in the race and the strategy is succeeding, why change?

>>2764735
Well sure their strategy is suceeding dosen't meant that its the right path after all the us strategy to become the sole world hegemon even if it was for a breif 20 years clearley worked dosent mean that american emprie building was good by any means

Isn’t socialism with Chinese characteristics just feudalism, where the state owns all the land and leases it to individuals and private entities?

>>2764873
That’s called the Oriental Mode of Production, in actual feudalism the king has virtually no powers and is cucked by landed nobles and the Church

>>2764752
China does what is best for China.

>>2764902
Not beating the KMT in red skin accusations

>>2764906
make a better revolution than theirs

>>2764873
but it's no longer agrarian and the productive forces are far beyond what anyone else is capable of

>>2765221
Prachanda tried, Hu Jintao threatened to restore the dead monarchy via the PLA

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>>2764731
Cuba exists only because of China both now and since the special period, they are their largest trade partner and aid recipient with more than $1 billion in trade every year and close to $100 million in aid in these last three months alone. You are completely wrong and clueless.

>PRC
>P(O)RC(INE)
>PORKY
gasp

>>2765235
If you're so devoid of popular basis that a stupid threat likes that turns you into the archetypal revisionist why should I take you seriously?

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>>2764731
Lol it's the US getting cucked by Israel and further super charging China's development in the long run while weakening the US's allies against China, see >>2715236

Also China has been buying 90% of Iran's oil which provides the major funding for Iran's economy and its military
China also supplies the precursors for the ballistic missiles, motors for the Shahed drones, etc, and grants full military access to BeiDou GNSS for missile accuracy to strike Tel Aviv and US bases

By the way, it's not China's fault that Iran had an Ayatollah that issued a Fatwa against nuclear weapons saying it's not allowed by Islam and that Allah will be Iran's bodyguard.

And it's not China's fault that had Iran elected a liberal clown in the middle of a geopolitical political knife fight, a guy who said he didn't understand politics. Since 2022, Russia had repeatedly signaled its readiness to form formal military alliances with Iran. Russians were proposing a clause that the treaty was being negotiated would have obligated the parties to come to the defense of each other in case either of them are attacked. But Iran at the time demurred. That was because they wanted to put weight on the potential outreach to the US, to resume the nuclear talks with the US and get some agreement with the US.

And it's not China's fault that Iran deliberately chose not to build its military hardware around Chinese gear seeing it as inferior (tell that to Pakistan). Iran still does not have any Chinese air defense systems made this century despite Indian propaganda accounts on X,with no source saying so, because they are mad that their French fighter jets were shot down by Chinese ones. An Iranian top brass even proudly told Chinese State TV in September 2024 that iranian forces are well trained in Western gear and are shifting to advanced indigenous weapons and can handle regional security, no need of help from "faraway" nations.

Back in 2021, China and Iran signed a sweeping 25-year strategic cooperation agreement worth $400 billion spanning energy, ports, finance, and even military training. It was hailed as Tehran's pivot to the East, an exit ramp from sanctions and isolation. For a brief moment, it looked like Iran had chosen the China-Russia bloc. But the ink had barely dried before Tehran's behavior grew erratic. Projects were shelved, port cooperation at Chabahar stalled, solar equipment was seized by the IRGC, and in a twist that felt like a deliberate snub, Iran leased the same port to India even as India was cozying up to the U.S., had a border skirmish with China and was preparing for confrontation with Pakistan. As India and Pakistan were on the brink of war, Iran signed a full-spectrum strategic agreement with New Delhi. However after the Israel/US strikes, it's very likely that Iran will finally turn to Xi as the hard liners are now in charge. Another win for China.

>>2766782
>but it won't discuss third worldism, gonzalo, or mao zedong thought.
because only AGI will be able to handle those

>>2766782
Because you don't want to get in trouble with AI spewing incorrect takes because DeepSeek still talks stupid Westoid points on USSR and China. It has a bad set of initial data for this, for whatever reason they probably stole from openAI or somebody, but i have never seen comprehensive evidence for this

https://foreignpolicy.com/2026/02/17/china-work-culture-996-myth-labor-business/

In recent months, certain corners of Silicon Valley have become obsessed with “996”: working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., six days a week. Though the term originated in China’s tech industry, it was coined as a critique of an unhealthy and illegal work culture, not an aspirational ideal. The 996 trend isn’t the norm—it’s closer to China’s version of start-up culture.

The trend is more flattering than older, racist tropes, but it is still dehumanizing, reducing 1.4 billion people to tireless worker-drones.

Beyond the infamous 996, there are some broadly recognizable subcultures. One notable example is found in the public sector, which employs roughly 23 percent of the eligible working population. We might dub its culture as “323”: three hours of work, a two-hour lunch break, then three more hours of work.

The two-hour (if not three-hour) lunch break is sacrosanct, and repeated attempts to change it have largely failed. During this break, some offices organize group exercise, but most people use it to nap….In the private sector, firms even dim office lights or have designated nap rooms to make sleeping easier.

>>2770818
The whole '996' propaganda against the PRC is a particular part the general slandering of China's industrial power. You see it in things like the whining about 'fast fashion' and the use of 'Temu' to mean anything low quality, Also the narratives about how awful it is to work in factory that were everywhere a few years ago.

>>2773093
>You see it in things like the whining about 'fast fashion'
Fast fashion is, in my humble opinion, an international consumerist problem, China aside. Clothes used to be built to last. A good leather coat could last decades. Now you have shitty clothes full of polymers that come unraveled quickly and end up in some landfill. It's like planned obsolescence, but for clothes. Part of this is people throwing out clothes once they are no longer "in style" but another part of it is the shoddy quality, because to make something cheap and low quality is to guarantee that it will be thrown away and replaced in just one or two capital turnover periods. It's just another consequence of the global mode of production itself, rather than a problem with China specifically.

>>2773136
Yes I don't mean that it isn't a problem, but rather that the reason it is highlighted is because it can be used against China.

>>2773192
I agree with your assessment insofar as you were talking about 996 or "Temu" as a byword for "shitty" but I've heard "fast fashion" more as a term to describe the problems with the global fashion industry and 1st worlder consumption habits in general rather than the Chinese fashion industry specifically. But yes I see your point.

>>2773212
Shein was always the target in any discussion on the topic in my experience.

>>2770818
>"Chinese are workaholic robot bugmen" propaganda isn't working
>It's just demoralizing burgers
>Correct course: "Chinese are lazy slackers"

>>2773718
Multitrack drfiting choice:
>laying down movement,
<because of 996 everywhere

>>2689992
What's the Capital I for under the star in the second design?

>>2773884
Its the Hanzi character for labour.


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