>>2697569Okay but that doesn't refute my point. If I benefit from imperialism because I can buy cheap commodities made with third world labour, then why aren't people in your country beneficiaries of imperialism despite doing the same thing?
The alien headlines do seem show up at conviently distracting times
>>2697575>obama may have given classified information>and aliens aren't realhe's senile
>>2697577Because hes not america, europe is a contienent that has never even though of imperialism
I mean theres value transfers in between american states and in between classes but you we are all personally responsible for. What ever problems you have
I wonder what imperial core national will bitch at us next
>>2697574<When u go neolib analysis just to be able to avoid facing hard factsYeah broz "market forces" raped my mom. It's just supply and demand!
Get the FUCK out with you evoking Marxist terms like SNLT directly after.
SNLT literally involves the labour force being able to reproduce their labour power (eating, shitting, sleeping) and the less variable capital costs the capitalists, the cheaper they can sell their goods (competitiveness).
If you as a capitalist employ a 100 workers and pay them minimum wage vs. a capitalist who employs a 100 workers for less than the minimum wage, whose product can be sold at a lower price, you literal fucktard in denial?! Which one is more competitive?
Please consult "the market forces" before answering this simple question, you mind-broken retard-of-a-parasite.
>Reduced to their simplest theoretical expression, all our friend's arguments resolve themselves into this one dogma: “The prices of commodities are determined or regulated by wages."
>I might appeal to practical observation to bear witness against this antiquated and exploded fallacy. I might tell you that the English factory operatives, miners, shipbuilders, and so forth, whose labour is relatively high-priced, undersell by the cheapness of their produce all other nations; while the English agricultural labourer, for example, whose labour is relatively low-priced, is undersold by almost every other nation because of the dearness of his produce. By comparing article with article in the same country, and the commodities of different countries, I might show, apart from some exceptions more apparent than real, that on an average the high-priced labour produces the low-priced, and low priced labour produces the high-priced commodities. This, of course, would not prove that the high price of labour in the one, and its low price in the other instance, are the respective causes of those diametrically opposed effects, but at all events it would prove that the prices of commodities are not ruled by the prices of labour. However, it is quite superfluous for us to employ this empirical method.
t. Marx
>>2697571People in those countries are disciplined with direct imperial violence.
And they *are* revolting as we speak, it's just that they for now decided to ally with their natbourgs to oppose the western bourgeoisie. And protracted conflict between states doesn't look so flashy as a revolution, it looks like deals, negotiations and economic maneuvering.
It's a pretty simple scheme: since the bourgeoisie read marx, they donderstand that proles are dangerous, so they ship the mop to the third world and keep them away with bombs.
Meanwhile they dull the proletarian class character of their local people, putting them in service jobs, giving them stocks, land, and some luxuries. They turn into a mishmash of not quite prole not quite bourgs, this conflicting class interest paralyzes them
>what happened nextAmerica continued raping and bombing the rest of the world for 20 years, with little to no opposition from the american public.
Maybe americans are just o allah we are weak, and can't do anything about their porkies, but would at least support the third world prltecting itself from their bombs like the dprk did?
Nope.
"If iran attempts to defend itself from our bombs, we should bomb them" - american proles
>The third worldist retard lives in the imperial core sucking off the teat of German social welfare
Many such cases!
>shit-tier bait
Americans.
>>2697420>>2697422Defensive operation against fascist russian monopolist social imperialism. A true global united front against fascism
>>269759
EUROCUCKS.
>>2697590>People in those countries are disciplined with direct imperial violence.Yes when they actually revolt, which in most instances they don't. Like, you understand that most third world countries are essentially just liberal democracies right? Moreover most of them don't have any significant communist movement, and not because there is any mass repression against them but because communism simply isn't popular.
>And they *are* revolting as we speak, it's just that they for now decided to ally with their natbourgs to oppose the western bourgeoisie.So in other words they have fallen in line behind their ruling classes just as Westerners have, its just that their bourgeoisie have some progressive potential due to their antagonism with imperialism. This isn't evidence of an increased capacity for independent working class organizing.
>"If iran attempts to defend itself from our bombs, we should bomb them" - american proleshttps://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/trump-iran-strikes-poll-cnn-ssrs >>2697595Dude, fuck imperial-core EU countries whose foreign policy is occupied by the US, BUT THEIR POPULACE STILL HAS A HIGHER DUKEN lQ THAN ANY BURGERISTANI STATE'S
>>2697597Well clearly arent sending their best to post here
To be fair, arguing with A M E R I C A N S will never be unfair. It's like beating a child with Down-Syndrome
>>2697497Every time amerikan try exonerate themselves they humiliate themselves. The national bourgeoisie in third world is ally to third world working people against the imperialist settler euroamerikan bourgeois epstein klass bloc.
>>2697602We arent talking about thst right now we talking about the hungarian whos crying about how.hard hisn life is
>>2697587>If you as a capitalist employ a 100 workers and pay them minimum wage vs. a capitalist who employs a 100 workers for less than the minimum wage, whose product can be sold at a lower price, you literal fucktard in denial?!But why would I lower my price if I can just keep them the same, pay my workers less, and increase my profits?
>>2697602>>2697606I think these guys believe In class collaboration so much that they can't imagine porky not making this better for proles
>>2697605*suspense electrnoic jam*
AMEEEEEERRRRRICAAAAA
>>2697602Not. In most countries in most nations its the 3rd world bourgeoisie being vassaliized by america
>>2697608I do think it's funny that they like to accuse everybody else of being Nazis when they're the ones who actually subscribe to their beliefs. They believe that national affinity overcomes class antagonism to the point where first world capitalists simply distribute their superprofits to their workers. They then believe that all nations exist in constant struggle, a zero sum war of all against all in which universal benefit and prosperity is impossible.
>>2697515But you have to think about us poor amerikans. We live in belly of beast. When evil fed wrecker Third Worldist say we benefit from imperialism that makes them guilty of supporting imperialism because third worldist pointing out crime is greater crime than crime itself in settler brain.
Tariffs are driving up our cost of living. We dont have free healthcare. Rents are rising. Wages are plummeting. Food we cannot afford. Unemployment is critical. Im not going to cite data for any of this just copy paste marx as nonsequiter to justify funkopop
>>2697216It really depends on what the TWist is advocating for and what actions they wish westerners to achieve. If they want sabotaging factories and sit ins at ice compounds to prevent them from capturing more people, their genuine. If they say go storm the capital right now now now then their either stupid or feds.
>>2697602So what do i do?
>>2697614>that makes them guilty of supporting imperialismYes, actively reproducing bourgeois narratives about imperialism is supporting imperialism. Telling people that it's in their interest to support imperialism is supporting imperialism.
>>2697575Dawg Trump is implying he could prosecute Obama for yapping about aliens this is the stupidest of all possible timelines.
>>2697618Telling proles the truth about their conditions is better than lying to them.
You keep flip flopping between bourgs lying to westerners that imperialism doesn't exist because then the oh so noble westerners would stop doing it, and saying that telling them that imperialism benefits them would make them immune to further reasoning
>>2697612But americans are the ones from whom nazis stole their homework.
And nazism was never eradicated in europe either.
So yeah, average unconscious western liberal is s nazi by default. And their cojntries continue enacting generalplan ost to this day
>>2697644>Telling proles the truthYou're lying to them though. You're telling them lies that serve the interests of the ruling class, that they should be happy and grateful to their rulers who are benevolent to them. Honestly this thread should be filled with people discussing how we can organize opposition to the impending attack on Iran. Instead you mfs are in here telling us why we should support it instead. Your movement is objectively pro-imperialist because it actively discourages opposition among imperial core workers.
>>2697647>But americans are the ones from whom nazis stole their homework.Yup, and now you're stealing it from the Nazis.
can someone make a new thread already
Does Kyle Kulinski citing /pol/ threads live mean he's /here/ or no?
New thread
>>2697662some art people have no sense of restraint or respect for the limits of their medium regarding taste
>>2697525>TWist is not actually third world but in europei fucking TOLD you guys
>>2697662combating fascism one choreography at a time.
>>2697556underpaid workers results in more profit. Technology and division of labor results in cheaper products by decreasing SNLT.
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