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A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:

- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)

-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well

-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted

-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country

-North Korea is a abomination of socialism

-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
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>>2762504
>Please tell me you don’t actually think Marxism Leninism Maoism is the third stage and PPW is universally applicable

You're a social democrat idealist with the aesthetic of a revolutionary. Your end goals include a parliamentary system in the USA so "communists" can get more seats and give workers a bigger slice of the imperialist pie.

>>2762506
You either die in the mountains of appalachia kidnapping babies to boil or you're a parlementarist that scam people's time into giving you a comfy job
Hard choices in modern american radicalism

men should be able to get pregnant by women

Freedom of speech is a meme and people should be arrested for wrongthink and either reeducated or killed.
There is nothing wrong with dictatorship per se. A dictatorship that serves the interest of the workers is good.

What makes people like Hitler or Pinochet bad is that they were simps for the bourg, not that they were dictators.
There is also nothing wrong with monarchy for the exact same reason. Democracy is a meme.

>>2762669
The pelvis must be re-optimized for our fat brains

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>>2762637

If you eat your meat fried, they'll tell you to boil it,
Then if you boil it, they'll say it should broil;
If you don't eat meat, and eat only green things,
They'll ask you what's wrong with the brain in your skull.

If you work for wages, you support the rich capitalist,
If you don't work, you're a lumpen to them;
If you play the gamble, of course, you're a gambler,
And if you don't gamble, you never do win.

If you die in your cradle, it's a sad misfortune,
If you live to old age, it's harder and worse;
If you've read the papers, you know it is many
Who take their lives daily when they empty their purse.

There's traders, and trappers, and shippers, and hopers,
Sacco and Vanzetti, in America's fair lands,
There's hoppers and croppers and robbers and dopers,
And millions of folks with just two empty hands.

I see my prediction that leftypol would continue its hitlerite trajectory has been more or less totally correct

Another ML victory in the name of capital! 🎂🎂🎂

Later once again, strasserpol (another leftist win!)

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>>2703978
But I hate the west, so more migrants means watered down westoid culture
Religion is natural. It's not religions fault Judeo Christians are basically schizo accelerationists basing their world view of a prophecy not even in the Bible. Read it.
Actually we should replace it with reverse eugenics to humble the Amerikkkan encourage the ugliest most handicapped to breed
China is great
North Korea is great
Russia is great

Pic related of having all the correct takes. The most dialectical

>>2762921
>encourage the ugliest most handicapped to breed
You want society of Dejs and antwans.

>>2762924
Unironically yes
The George Floyd goblins shall inherit the Earth. Now see that IS in the Bible

>>2762701

female cum is superior, men should be bred silly by the female penis

It's about the holocaust.

>>2762921
Wow, a retarded religious/pol/tard but brown, never seen this before

Kill yourself retard

>>2752892
Arabpol moment

>>2762921
>Religion is natural.
In the sense that it's natural for humans to make up a theory to explain things they don't have empirical proof about it is.
>the Bible. Read it.
I've read it and it has its moments but overrated tbh.
>reverse eugenics to humble the Amerikkkan encourage the ugliest most handicapped to breed
That's the function of nepotism in capitalism already
>China is great
>North Korea is great
>Russia is great
They are Great as in Large administrative zones it is true.

No industrial society will ever be as happy as the Pirahã people.

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There are no real communists.

>Gender ideology is a cult, spured on by big pharma, rainbow NGO's who needed a new battle after Gay Marraige was won and by WPATH who basically are run by genuine zealots who borderline just trying to create the wider argument that Pedophilia is fine and children are fully sexually consent (https://www.compactmag.com/article/how-gender-medicine-set-itself-up-for-disaster/). Nothing about Gender ideology makes a lick of sense from an materialist or basic logical standpoint. Leftists only support it because it's tied to "radical" Social liberalism and Conservatives hate it.
>The Left has a genuine Islam problem that it refuses to still largely acknowledge. Most leftists still magically think that most Muslims are aligned with the left out of some love for Socialism, rather than just using the left to jump into positions of power where they repeatedly side with the far-right christians to stomp down extreme social conservatism.
>Religion should be 100% fair game for attack. New Atheists being scamming assholes who really only cared about dunking on browns, still were more right that spending the past decade bootlicking Jews and Muslims and pretending their views are at all valid.
>The Left are fundamentally unserious and don't actually seriously want power. Most Leftists could not give a fuck about policy beyond grand macro statements. Much on the left never grew out of their teenage contrarian/I HATE BORING SUBURBIA AND MY PARENTS phase.
>Xi is the most important and serious Socialist figure of the 21st century and is a genuine Marxist who was one of the small few who truly understood what Mao was doing and Mao's vision for the Cultural Revolution.
>Free Speech is very important. You cannot predict who will have the power to censor speech in the future, and leftists calling for authoritarianism in Liberal Western socities are fucking retards who are just begging for Capitalists and Zionists to stomp on their faces.
>Antisemitism, Racism, Bigotry etc that has no meaningful material effect (calling names, discussions of certain topics) should not be considered at all a "hate crime"
>Blacks and many minorities are genuinely dirt poor largely of their own making. Little to do with "racism" but god awful cultural behaviours and beliefs. Many minority communities genuinely need a cultural revolution to install some sort of self-responsibility and civicism into them. Western leftists can't understand it because they literally are such western cultural liberal supremacists, they just think that cultural liberalism is common sense to everyone and that all thirdies have it instinctually just don't carry it out of some outside influence.
>Biological Race (not in the vulgar 19th century sense) is probably real if you look at the genetics, certain ""races"" probably do excel on average better at certain traits, Eugenics probably would work, it's just deeply unethical and unworkable in a real world situation
>Same with CRISPR literally the most important medical technology development since Antibiotics, but extremely, EXTREMELY dangerous in unscrupulous peoples hands. Could literally result in Rich making their kids genuinely biologically superior.
>USSR was doomed to failure the second Lenin formalized State Republics based on National borders rather than geographic regions. EU will probably eventually fail for the same reason.
>Western Socialism will probably take the form of an inverted version of Capitalist Westminster Party system. Where you will vote for different forms of Socialist parties, rather than any form of direct democracy, since the average normie actually fucking hates politics or being engaged.
>George Floyd/BLM everything was a Psyop to make the left stop capitalizing on Medicare for All demands during a pandemic
>If any Corpos and MSM supports a protest or movement, it's 100% a fake psyop or plays some role in the Capitalist machine.

  • emotional responses are a form of perception and to ignore/repress one's emotions is to willfully blind oneself to a potentially useful connection to reality

  • linux has been ruined by corporate influence and the gpl sucks and richard stallman is a gross pederast and freebsd is better

  • there is really no such thing as direct empirical observation because the traditional five senses are not direct connections to outer reality; they are passive and opaque sensory instruments and the brain does all of the work of converting exterior stimuli into electrochemical signals influenced by its own unique biases and the only reason two people can have a consensual perception of reality is because their brains are similar enough to generate a similar picture

  • nuclear power is safe and clean and a good idea and even the worst nuclear accidents are a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of toxic waste coal and natural gas release into the environment

  • the fundamental nature of life, matter, consciousness, and reality is chaotic, irreducible, inexorably interconnected, and ultimately unknowable. we can never fully understand anything and we can never be fully outside of anything. we can approach the truth but we can never actually reach it.

  • the obsession with health and fitness and beauty is stupid and vain and everyone is doomed to deteriorate and fall ill and die in a very short timeframe no matter what choices they make

  • regardless of the limitations of human knowledge, nihilism is still a copout and to give up on seeking knowledge and declare it a pointless endeavor because the journey has no clear destination is a selfish and infantile and entitled way of thinking

  • meritocracy doesn't produce qualified leaders, it produces egotistical billionaire psychopaths.

>>2763463
None of this is really that controversial. Basic bitch.

only 5,999,999 jews were killed in the holocaust

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guns are not an equalizer for the common man for the same reason that a whip is not an equalizer for a slave. a gun is just a tool and like any tool it does not change power dynamics, it only amplifies existing power dynamics, i.e. makes existing killers better at killing. it doesn't matter how much you larp at a shooting range or how much time you spend playing tactical shooters, you are still not a ruthless killer, you are a regular sane ordinary person with a conscience and a rational aversion to violence and death. the most sophisticated powerful weaponry in the world is as useless in your hands as a bowling ball in the hands of a golfer.

>>2704170
>North Korea also completely cut off any trade for five years during Covid
Yeah and that caused an economic recession so bad that Kim was getting on national tv and crying and apologizing for failing to hit the 5 year plan targets. Gee it's almost like without trade from China N. Korea's economy immediately implodes.

Iran, Afghanistan, DPRK, and Cuba are the only countries that actually truly fully oppose Israel and America

>>2704023
death penalty is not needed. Just do life in prison. Rotting for 50 years in jail until you eat shit and die from old age is far worse mental torture than straight up dying. Death row prisoners get used to the feeling of impending death after a while.

>>2706030
>source, please
this website

>>2706094
trvth nvke

>>2771002
>torture is good, execution is bad
As I say, you are living by the spirit of injustice

>>2771007
to dissuade the reactionaries the most brutal violence must be done upon them, justice is irrelevant since reactionaries do not believe anything besides hating on communists.

>>2771011
>justice is irrelevant
you are a danger to society and would ideally be liquidated

>>2771007
Both torture and execution are good and just.

faggots are deeply underestimating the US if they don't want to face against drug cartels

>>2770982
DPRK is a vassal state of Chyna

Hegel was a shitty writer

>>2771153
thats a typical opinion

>>2771165
>>2771153
That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact, German students studying Hegel typically read the English translation because the native German is so dense and inscrutable

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I always get shit for this one but I don’t think that everyone who is serving or has served in the United States armed forces are essentially evil, I understand why people think that, especially 3rd worlders. But it’s nurture not nature and they are engaging in an immoral act but depending on their role it doesn’t make them a bad person to the bone. Trotsky hired former Tsarist generals and they helped win the civil war, Tito and Gaddafi were both former military leaders of bourgeois militaries before they seized power, and what about all of the Nationalists who switched sides to Mao’s forces, imagine if Mao said “Nah fuck you!” Then he would have lost. My point is that unless they committed war crimes, the left should always accept Veterans who atone, especially if the leak shit.

>>2775744
>the left should always accept Veterans who atone, especially if the leak shit.
agree
too bad there is no left in the US

>>2775752
Do you not consider Bernie, Mamdani, AOC+3 and everyone else in the DSA to be Leftists? Because I think that they are only a few kitchen tiles away from being liberals but I still consider them to b3 on the left.

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I like Trotsky and trotskyism

>>2775744
I don't think anyone is ever against the ones who properly atone. Never heard anyone say anything bad about Prysner. The problem is 99% never apologize, for example Plaplner

>>2775805
>>2775744
Also I am tired of the:
>we will need trained soldiers for our insurrection
It's not fucking happening. Stop with the LARP. The only think good they can do is expose the beast from their insider experience.

>>2775757
Bernie is a zionist

Honestly, I've always been 100% pro-gun and absolute free speech. I may be a leftist but I'm anti-government first

>>2775808
Okay so are just fucking giving up?

>>2775888
No, I just don't preceoccupy myself with wishcasting fantasies about catyclysms and eschatologies and such. Don't worry, you will get older too.

>>2775851
In my opinion Bernie is a necessary evil for the time being because he as too much influence, he has acknowledged the genocide but it was too little too late.

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>>2703978
I would say that my most controversial Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist positions are the fact that Global Nuclear War is a Historically Progressive necessity that must happen to allow for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, that the Global Maoist Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR will eliminate all vestiges of the Reactionary Superstructure as the International Red Guards bulldoze/burn down all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas worldwide and arrest all Priests/Ministers/Monks/Nuns/Imams/Rabbis and force them to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (This also happens to all Fascists, Liberals, and Revisionists as well), that the Global Maoist Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution will flatten the Socially Constructed Reactionary Gender Binary, through the International Red Guards forcing all Women to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved head being the most Historically Progressive), with all women that violate this having their heads forcibly shaved by Female (mostly Lesbian) International Red Guards and forced to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, and Dresses and Makeup/Lipstick being banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, while all Western Business Suits and Traditional Religious Clothing are banned as well with everyone wearing Mandatory Mao Suits, along with my In-depth articulation of the Dialectical Materialist stance on the Biological Concept of Race (ie. Races are the Genetic Clines of various heritable Physical Characteristics (ie. Nasal Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html , Cephalic index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/cephalicindex.html , Facial Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/facialindex.html , Skin Color, Eye Color, Hair Color, etc.) and Autosomal DNA PCR Clusters associated with various geographic populations but it has nothing to do with Intelligence and Schizo Hierarchies like the Nazis and Southern Crackers believed, due to the fact that Intelligence is a Social Construct whose definition changes with each Mode of Production and is thus purely a result of Environmental and Socioeconomic factors with zero Genetic basis) that was accepted in the USSR and Maoist China, as proven by the first 4 In-depth Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with various Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions (ie. Germanic, Slavic, Italic/Romance, Celtic, Baltic, Graeco-Albanian/Balkanic, Armenian, Iranian, Indo-Aryan, etc.) across various Indo-European and Non-Indo-European speaking populations in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, Siberia, and the Americas, in comparison to various Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions, along with a Chart of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Makeup of each of the Indo-European and Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions shown in the first 4 Charts, based on the proportion of Indo-European Steppe and Non-Steppe Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components, with all of these charts coming from the same video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲🧬!

>>2775893
so how does that reconcile with the people that did live during times like this in human history ? was it all a giant LARP ?
like we had 2 economic crises in 20 years that DID send people in the street to become homeless and shit,and there are still people engaged in real wars on the planet,their new day-to-day life


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