A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:
- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)
-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well
-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted
-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country
-North Korea is a abomination of socialism
-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
168 posts and 25 image replies omitted.>>2703978I would say that my most controversial Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist positions are the fact that Global Nuclear War is a Historically Progressive necessity that must happen to allow for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, that the Global Maoist Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution in the future Global USSR will eliminate all vestiges of the Reactionary Superstructure as the International Red Guards bulldoze/burn down all Churches/Mosques/Synagogues/Temples/Pagodas worldwide and arrest all Priests/Ministers/Monks/Nuns/Imams/Rabbis and force them to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (This also happens to all Fascists, Liberals, and Revisionists as well), that the Global Maoist Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution will flatten the Socially Constructed Reactionary Gender Binary, through the International Red Guards forcing all Women to have extremely short hair (Pixie cut or shorter, with a Shaved head being the most Historically Progressive), with all women that violate this having their heads forcibly shaved by Female (mostly Lesbian) International Red Guards and forced to March through the streets wearing Dunce Caps on their way to the re-education camps where they are re-educated to embrace the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, and Dresses and Makeup/Lipstick being banned in order to liberate Women from the chains of Bourgeois Femininity/Domesticity, while all Western Business Suits and Traditional Religious Clothing are banned as well with everyone wearing Mandatory Mao Suits, along with my In-depth articulation of the Dialectical Materialist stance on the Biological Concept of Race (ie. Races are the Genetic Clines of various heritable Physical Characteristics (ie. Nasal Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html , Cephalic index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/cephalicindex.html , Facial Index humanphenotypes.net/metrics/facialindex.html , Skin Color, Eye Color, Hair Color, etc.) and Autosomal DNA PCR Clusters associated with various geographic populations but it has nothing to do with Intelligence and Schizo Hierarchies like the Nazis and Southern Crackers believed, due to the fact that Intelligence is a Social Construct whose definition changes with each Mode of Production and is thus purely a result of Environmental and Socioeconomic factors with zero Genetic basis) that was accepted in the USSR and Maoist China, as proven by the first 4 In-depth Charts of Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with various Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions (ie. Germanic, Slavic, Italic/Romance, Celtic, Baltic, Graeco-Albanian/Balkanic, Armenian, Iranian, Indo-Aryan, etc.) across various Indo-European and Non-Indo-European speaking populations in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, Siberia, and the Americas, in comparison to various Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components associated with Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions, along with a Chart of the Autosomal DNA Ancestry Makeup of each of the Indo-European and Non-Indo-European Ethno-Linguistic groups/subdivisions shown in the first 4 Charts, based on the proportion of Indo-European Steppe and Non-Steppe Autosomal DNA Ancestry Components, with all of these charts coming from the same video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FJaTRFojJg of “The History of Indo-European Peoples, Languages and Ancestry from 5000 BC to 2025 AD” that cites 33 Academic articles published on Population Genetics, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️ 💇♀️👩🦲🧬!
>>2775893so how does that reconcile with the people that did live during times like this in human history ? was it all a giant LARP ?
like we had 2 economic crises in 20 years that DID send people in the street to become homeless and shit,and there are still people engaged in real wars on the planet,their new day-to-day life
What do my fellow Comrades think of my “controversial” opinions at
>>2775978 rooted in the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️ 💇♀️👩🦲🧬🤔?
I support some austerity measures.
My country has free college ie the state pays if you get in with good grades,but it shouldnt that is we should unironicly cut like 90% of humanities and 40% of stem off this and have those be the mutt pay for college version.
Also staple the degree to the student never let them leave the country untill they paid off what the tax payer invested into them.
This is a transformative social mesure and i would support even the scummiest party if their program included this or would lead to this half privatization of the unis.
>>2792042You trying to transform your country into what exacty, 3th world?
>>2792061me when i lie to suit my anti-american position
How much you are attracted to children is inversely proportional to how much you’re a fascist.
China has an age of consent at 14 whilst that of NK is 15 years, with Cuba being at 12. Most ex-communist countries have ages of consent below 17 years as well, with Russia and Belarus standing out by virtue of being one of the few major countries where CP possession is legal, and then there’s the USSR that didn’t have a formal age of consent, with most Soviet courts taking it to be at puberty, much like Puebla in Mexico.
There is a line from Disco Elysium that is act where the protag asks: "are liberals liberal?" and one of the speakers from a Marxist group in-universe says, "no, they are reactionaries, barely distinguishable from fascists. The only true liberals left call themselves socialists."
Inb4 “the deserter said he doesn’t ally with pederasts of the liberal regime”:
If you challenge the deserter on this and say its as if your talking to a conservative he will readily admit that the party legalized pederasty before taking power and not the liberal regime itself. I was actually surprised/impressed that the developers were aware and chose to draw from this aspect of real world communist history. The deserter will say that pederasty isn't so bad in itself but when the bourgeois engage in sexuality its bourgeois people doing bourgeois things.That matches his worldview but its important to realize the deserter is an old man who lives on the fringes of society and is actively being poisoned by the Insulindian Phasmid which makes him both hyper-sexual and hyper-active at the cost of neurodegeneration, the phasmid's presence is really the only reason he can talk to you and do the things he does to set the game in motion given his advanced cancer.
Indeed, the founder of NAMbLA was a communist, and so was the father of the gay rights movement Harry Hay, who was a pederast in line with how the gay rights movement prior to the 1994 was might as well be pederasts rights movement since pederasty is normative among gays, and used to be the most common form of homosexuality prior to 1994.
But yeah, I do unironically think that pedo-bashing is an exercise in socially training normies into bigotry and thus acts as a gateway to reactionary politics that includes fascism, since pedo-bashing is greatly normalised by the libdem capitalist establishment both because it’s a virtue-signal that costs them nothing, as well as because it serves as a useful way to cajole normgroids into censorship (e.g., the passage of the Online Safety Act 2023) as well as normalise fascistic tendencies, as shown by how leftoids here love to preach against fascism only to turn themselves into one when it comes to pedophilia, thus proving my first point.(Obvious false info in this post)
>>2792070>I do unironically think that pedo-bashing is an exercise in socially training normies into bigotry This is the only thing i agree with
the medical pathologisation of sexuality was first conducted on homosexuals, who were chemically castrated. the same procedure exists but is now redirected.
My Controversial opinion is that Belarus is the only true democracy on earth.
>>2792068yeah and most forms of lynching stopped after the civil rights act, the USA wasn't exactly conducting a mass genocide of black americans, the closest thing i can think of in that time period is the tuscogee sterlization experiment but that's about it, nothing like the holocaust existed in america in the 20th century, as hard as it is for you to believe
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION I HAVE: Zootopia was very fun
>>2792802Zootopia 2 was even better
>>2792803CONTROVERSIAL OPINION I HAVE: i didn't love Zootopia 2 because it felt too similar to the first one and I watched that like 3 months ago and it was very fresh in my mind. Like a lot of plot points and emotional beats were the same.
>>2792803antz is way bettter
>>2792061>more racistAnd how does that matter? It is still good they won.
>>2792070Kill yourself, Baal-worshipping cannibalistic Epsteinite.
universal healthcare would bankrupt the US, since there are so may unhealthy people living there. You can only have healthcare if you deserve it, and America has chosen to kill itself.
I don't like Caleb Maupin but he's right about propaganda by the deed / Years of Lead stuff. That kind of violence is essentially a right-wing phenomenon.
>>2703978We need to legalize drunk driving
>>2703978There is not ever going to be another war like WW2 which was mostly fought over quality agricultural land due to massive population growth and forced labor in agriculture. WW2 was more like the American Civil War, a war driven by wealthy landowners who degraded the soil due to inefficient farming methods.
>>2819532Everyone should have individualized limits on drunk or high driving
>>2819818>>2819532False equivalence. Sex in general is a lot simpler, safer, and less mentally taxing than driving in general. In spite of more children dying via traffic accidents than either ‘p production or CSA, western governments are more likely to crack down on and “wage war” against ‘p and intergen sex more than traffic violators. That should tell you on how the bipartisan “think of da keeds!” pedo panic is just based on BS.
There’s no registry for drunk drivers, homicide perps, and thieves with the same level of inhumane cruel and unusual punishments like the SOR which not only constitutes double jeopardy but also includes residential and travel restrictions not found in any other registry for criminal offences.
Also, if your analogy held water, then Allyn Walker wouldn’t be forced to change universities and fade into obscurity for humanising MAPs, Susan Clancy would have never been forced into fleeing North America over her book showing how trauma over non-forced and non-coerced intergen sex is socially conditioned, Stephen Kershner wouldn’t be subjected to an investigation that lasted longer than the Warren Commission, and the reactionaries would have railed against “Trans drunk drivers” as opposed to “trans child groomers”.
But to give you a lede: Pwrhaps if white heterosexual men weren’t over represented among those convicted for CSOs and drunk driving, societal reactions would be more muted and comparable to how people generally react with thievery and murder despite the former having some of the highest recidivism rates, whilst the latter takes away lives materially, unlike rape.
I should also note that your opposition to MAPs is illogical since it’s an outgrowth of normie reaction formation against rape and the socially constructed disgust against intergen sex that resembles past homophobia.
So I think you’ll be happy to know that, just like not all heterosexual sex is rape, the same goes for age-gap sex as intergenerational intimacy isn’t inherently harmful. Otherwise, how’d you explain the results and conclusion in this summary of a peer-reviewed study?:
https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/images/Rindbasics.pdf Mass immigration is a tool used to drive down wages
feminism is a tool used to drive down wages
This is a good thread tbh
>>2823108Most leftists do not understand scaling and why discouraging saving is such a damn problem. No we won't all just join a co-op and have the same wage.
The problem isn't that small time folks are able to penny stash and hoard enough wealth to buy a tool kit and a workshop for others to work in, that is neccesary. The issue is when the private interests lobby the central banks and gov to fiddle with the currency to constantly spam stimulate aggregate demand.
Meaning your 20 grand your saving in cash to start a small cafe is losing 3 percent per annum. Hence your pressured to put it into stocks to finance a multinational corp that will buy up all the property. Now when you eventually take the dividends and get a deposit all you can afford to do is rent the cafe.
If you had owned it being a lifetime barista would be well paying and you'd create more than enough jobs for students to justify it. Now instead your barely making ends meat and stiffing the customer, as well as staff by putting the bare minimum amount of people on for each shift to get by.
>>2763287Here's another hot take. Most left wing criticisms of religion are really just criticisms of Christianity.
The emphasis of belief over practical action is such a clear example of this. You'll meet plenty of Jews, Jain's and Hindus who don't even believe in any entity but follow the laws and rituals for the sake of structure. The way ain soph, Allah and Shiva as consciousness explained sound more like describing infinite potential energy in a physics sense than the Christian sky man who dictates suffering meme.
>>2823108If wages went up, landlords would increase rent. High wages means commodities cost more, increasing the cost of social reproduction. The Keynesianism regime collapsed for a reason.
Technological progress will render most modern political debates mere historical trivia. For example, if some minorities really are stupid or violent or if women can't rotate 3D shapes or if men are rape beasts by nature then it doesn't matter because genetic engineering will fix it. Future humans will be engineered to be happy workers, lodging no complaints against the boss. And parents will happily agree so their offspring can get a good education and job. Also the sex wars will end, because there won't be any more sex. Everyone will be a sexless agender worker, biologically modified with cybernetics to fit whatever the job is. And without the concern of sex society can become much more efficient. No need to spend so much electricity on porn. People won't waste hours doing frivolous sex. And maybe they'll invent a pill or injection or something that cures sleep so we don't have to waste 8 hours sitting unproductively.
To start, I'm more than a little cynical about the quality of conversation that'll come from attempting to have this conversation. It isn't an intellectual conversation to other people, it's one where emotions take over and any number of terrible logic and bad arguments are slung. Hopefully here can change my opinion on that. This is a reddit account made for the sake of arguing this position here (and probably elsewhere if nothing productive comes from it here).
I think that children are capable of consenting to sexual contact with adults, and it's actually incredibly harmful to take that right away from them, and a violation of human rights. The normal arguments you hear against it are that the adult is always going to have more power in the relationship so it's inherently abusive, the child isn't ready for sex, developed enough, etc., and that there's too much risk for harm and anyone who isn't traumatized is an exception.
The idea that power dynamics makes a relationship inherently abusive is just outright wrong. Power dynamics only matter if the party with the power exercises it, and laws are an equalizer because they make there be reasons not to exploit power dynamics if empathy and compassion wasn't enough of a reason already. We only extend this idea of power dynamics to sexual situations with children, in all other areas it's actually expected and socially acceptable to exercise power against children (using hierarchy to get them to do what you want, physical punishment as deterrence, lack of consideration for their will, etc.).
Any sort of argument about development and puberty ignores the reason people have sex, people don't have sex just because hormones compelled them to do it, they have it because it's a pleasant and meaningful experience to achieve sexual release and increasingly so if someone you want to be involved is involved to. The idea that children aren't sexual creatures is to say they can't receive pleasure and have positive sexual experiences.
This is probably going to be the meatiest counter-argument that I have. I'll say it bluntly, no scientific evidence that uses unbiased samples (samples that represent the population as a whole) comes to the conclusion that willing sexual participation, or EVEN unwilling, is incredibly traumatic by itself. A study into the most impactful combinations of abuse on a child's happiness, finds that sexual abuse (defined as unwilling) isn't even in the top ten combinations of the most harmful abuse (Ney, Fung, & Wickett, 1994). Countless other studies find that early sexual experiences with adults are incredibly unlikely to cause lasting harm (Rind & Tromovitch, 1997; Rind et Al, 1998; Clancy, 2009) and other studies show that children who are willing participants in sex are statistically identical to the control group when it comes to issues of mental health (Arreola et Al, 2008; Arreola et Al, 2009). There's research that shows that minors who have first time experiences with adults have nearly indistinguishable experiences as minors with peers and adults with adults (Rind & Welter, 2014; Rind & Welter, 2016; Rind, 2017) and a study done of Finnish children that found that children are far more likely to report forced sexual contact than willing because they don't consider the willing sexual contact abuse (Lahtinen, 2018).
I personally see no reason to disallow child from having sexual freedom given all the research (there's more even) and find it immoral to deny them sexual freedom. I hope that having a conversation on a sub about reasonable discussions will bring me some actual solid and impactful evidence/arguments against rather than the usual moralistic squabble and argument avoidance of other places. I want an actual discussion about this and reasons why, in the presence of immense evidence that I believe is contrary, that children shouldn't be allowed to consent to sex, reasons the research is flawed, skewed, biased, or in anyway "junk science", or research that uses non-biased samples (i.e. not samples with a disproportionate amount of clinical patients) and come to the conclusion that sexual contact the child is willingly involved in is going to cause them some kind of lasting harm or problems. Thank you.
>>2703978The UAE is worst then Israel.
>>2823108>muh low wagesHail Lassalle!
>>2703978>-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted All you have to do is look at the state of modern agriculture and dog breeding to realize eugenics is a terrible idea, even if you remove the Nazi element from it (which is already a big if).
Genetic diversity, even including genes that are seemingly detrimental, is important for the long-term survival of the species.
>>2827637>pre-1914 3k bolsheviks
>mar 1917 (provisional gov't)80k bolsheviks
>nov 1917 (soviet gov't)240k bolsheviks
>>2827637You are confusing what's desired with what is. Just because workers tolerate it doesn't mean they like it. You are operating exclusively on vibes.
>>2823603Not quite but UAE is still pretty bad and shouldn't exist, yes.
>>2763314First quote is dumb, second quote is slightly more reasonable if you're extremely generous on his definition of "productive labor".
He wasn't right about everything.
He was against public education in Critique of the Gotha Program for example.
>>2827644I hate Israel, but the UAE is a state whre 80% of the population are slaves and their foreign policy consists in actively causing instability to weaken their ennemies, Israel does it too, but the UAE is on another level, Israel takes over the land of its neighbors, but they usually try for more peacefull relation with far away countries (saudi arabia being the obvious exemple) The UAE is also the single reason for the survival of the RSF In Sudan and of the ongoing genocide there, they barely have anything to gain in Sudan but just worsen the world for more opportunity. I just fell like the UAE is the archetypical hypercapitalist nightmare that is just accepted by most, a visit to Dubai should make you publically humiliated, if anyone I knew went to Dubai, or Tel Aviv for that matter, I'd publically insult them and make their life actively worse.
>>2703978Ruraloids, homos and Blacks tend towards fascism because the communists always abandon them and drift into reformism and class collaborationism.
Its called Pop not Soda
>>2823099>>2823600The kids will never fuck you, brotatonator.
>>2828066If that’s the case libtard, why do pedophobes claim that the AoC should exist because minors are just sooooo easy peasy to get laid with? What difference would the AoC make if I don’t have the ability to seduce minors as you say?
Either you or them can be true, not both
>>2792061I don't agree but a funny factoid is that the nazis thought interracial laws of the usa, also known as one drop policies, were too extreme, so while I don't really agree, hitler def was an ameriboo
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