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>>2702990Theres no way vance can win in 2028 right
?
At least unrigged?
>>2704459it doesn't matter who is president anyway
AMERICA BAD
Say it loud, say it proud!
AMERICA BAD
Somebody nuke america for the children
>>2704462Porn is only 6.4%? Awesome!
>>2704465You can find her anon
thinking about how the soviet union is dead and america's continued existence and how it can get away with anything now is making me physically ill we fucked up
If this general didn't exist there would be more discussion in the rest of the board and way less circlejerk shitflinging. This is a scientific statement (scientific as in Wissenschaft)
>>2704462This is why I only talk about graphic novels with chicks
Also, do weed, porn and drinking really count as hobbies?
>>2704457Have they ever been off it?
>>2704462Splitting logs naked while sweat ripples down your abs: 99%
>>2704470Yes but then the american chauvinists would be all over the board
>>2704470Chagos found a way to make my unrelated thread about America so maybe think twice
>>2704475you would continue to accuse random anons of being american chauvinists even if american IPs were banned.
>>2704459>>2704460it does matter. nihilism and cynicism are anti-Marxist.
>>2704478America has colonized his mind
A
>>2704469>we fucked up1.no we
2.A lot of people certainly did fuck things up.
>>2704462>Makeup, clubbingGirl-on-girl crime
>>2704480
Stop fucking doomposting based on actually nothing.
>>2704486Yeah but a guy into make is kinda cringe unless hes like film buisness make up good
>>2704479Hardly, most of them are usians, with a few exceptions
I havent seen houdini around in a while
>>2704492
>Doomposting? I explicitly stated that it didn't really matter if the left was cool or not.
>Still I don't think that even with the revelation that gamergate and a lot of 4chan was controlled by epstein to at least some degree will really sway young men in general because they have a large amount of distracting Rush Limbaugh type podcasts that they can have in the background. Men who have the power to dictate who or what sentiment has the man-card and which one is for sissies, and losing respect among fellow men is quite a hard thing to do. As such I think that Generation Zoomer and Alpha's men will for the most part still be chuddish, even if they aren't really women should be slaves and in the kitchen types. If only because it would be too expensive to pay for rent if it was just a single income family situation.
Stop. Cease. Do not pass go.
>>2704495I wish I could say that about chagos poster
>>2704491
everyone wants someone else to go first
nobody wants to risk themselves LOL
things have to get to a point where doing nothing is immediately (rather than merely long term) higher risk than doing something.
>>2704481it's not nihilism or cynicism. the office of US president should be abolished. fighting over who's the rapist in chief is damage mitigation.
>>2704495He joined DSSA. Houdini magazine has fallen. Billions must die.
>>2704503ask him next time you see him here
>>2704494the accusations of american chauvinism on this website scarcely correlate with whether the accused anon is actually praising america or not. you can say death to amerikkka 100000x per day on here and still get accused of being one. it's a stupid website for stupid people and trolls and glowies. and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
>>2704501I am one of those who can tell appart between the 0 differences between democrappers and rethuglicans, and yet, I tell every burgestani I've met that they can't abandon American politics.
>>2704462>93.6% of women find porn unattractiveOf course. Of course. You aren't even allowed to look at Chad's harem even as she cheats on you with him. Of course.
>Arguing online is also unattractiveOf course. You're not allowed to NOTICE this fact either.
>>2704509True people tell me to dress better and "take care of myself" but i am so hideously at the bottom of the barrel their 0 reason to bother trying
>>2704507
>I mean yeah?
No.
>The epstein backed meme matrix was able to capture the cultural dialectic of young men because they had billions or even trillions of dollars worth of information to attack men's ego directly and to be able to make themselves relatable. That is a huge amount of resources to make a demographic that is at most 40% chud 60% not-chud. It's just that they will still be able to control the ambient feeling measures through the use of the podcast matrixes which are still going very strong to this very day. These guys all have a pulse on what is considered to be manly or not and they can make or break who has the mancard and who doesn't. Not having a mancard as a guy is very dangerous to one's own financial and emotional well being, as men in general hate feeling weak to other men and as such will just espouse chud ideology without really even caring that much about it. That is why a lot of shit deemed "Woke" still gets a lot of butts in their seats while Sydney Sweeney is like a B-Grade actress as most and there isn't that much explicitly chud aligned media that isn't just gacha gaming crap.
Based on literally nothing
>>2704509Fatland feels like nazi germany when they measure skulls for reproductive rights and status.
>>2704506if you are not having fun you are using this website format undialectically, you are an utopian poster, become a scientific one
FYI, 175 billion $ reimbursement. you are going to pay for it.
>>2704514
It’s just rage bait for clicks
>>2704519Ah fuck, here we go again
>>2704519I read the people in the boat fired first and entered vuban water's i wonder who the government thats been killing random fisherman 1000s of miles away from,aniwherw it has legitimate buisness is going to spin this
>>>2704529
Not just Venezuelans by trinidadians ( a usa friendly nation)
>>2704519imagine if KKKhrushchev had not taken away the nuclear missiles from them…
>>2704523
>Based on literally nothing
>>2704521Inb4 one of trumps companies gets 50 billion in terrif reinbursement
>>2704465Only now do I realize I misread the chart.
>>2704525>>2704527The initial US government response has been pretty much "don't believe the commies".
<peoplereminder, glowies aren't people
>>2704536
I guess if you cosplay you can meet cosplayer girls at conventions good luck with the ratio
>>2704535Its over for porncels
>>2704506American chauvinism doesn't just manifest itself as direct praise for america obviously.
> it's a stupid website for stupid people and trolls and glowiesDuhdoy, you're just figuring this out now? Glowanon is right, you are a utopian poster. Open your mind to Felixism-Chagosianism anon
>Felixism-Chagosianism
I suffer from delusions of granduer and do thing but post on this board ami doing right?
>>2704543You have clearly not read the texts nor understood the dialectic akanon
>>2704462>Porn>Gambling>Arguing online>WeedGoddamn
>>2704543>ami doing right?no, you sound buttblasted instead of like you are having fun so you must be doing something wrong
>>2704546See thats what im confused about am i supposed to [redacted] a [redacted] or am supposed to just tell people to [redacted for nspm7 compliance] and do nothing?
>>2704549 to fair those 2 are pretty bulasted individuals like a posterior tsar bomba
>>2704462>porn>hobbie>marijane>hobbie>drinking>hobbieI wouldn't take the opinion of women who believe that these things are hobbies too seriously.
>>2704548hi im new here. what is felix. what is chagos. why dont you guys actually talk about how to make this country suck less and hurt less people both foreign and domestic?
>>2704550It's already too late anon, you are already an american
>>2704556Felix and Chagos are the answers to your third question.
>>2704556>what is felix. what is chagos.Just on site code for retard and incel.
>>2704556>what is felixthe spectre that haunts leftypol
>what is chagosan island o algo
>>2704556Any attempts at discussion of actualizing praxis through proper material analysis gets shouted down by the networks of revisionists and federal agents. Many of these types would rather make memes of imagery from the 1900s socialist movements, while decrying the people actively in battle with the bourgeois mechanisms of power as "adventurist". Whether a fed or not a fed, members that belong to organizations that back this sort of idea are directly engaged in the COIN as related to social movements.
>>2704565truklear launch detected
>>2704572
I dont like it,maybe you like it
>>2704575inb4
>If you didn’t like it, it would’ve already stoppedIgnoring that this country is not a democracy even by liberal standards let alone proletarian ones
>>2704558(annoying to copypaste, hopefully this'll be more readable)
<Government Sources And Public Media: Since October 7, 2023,antisemitism has surged on media platforms controlled by the Chinesegovernment. The Vice President of China’s Foreign Ministry think tank,China Institute for International Studies (CIIS) alleged that “the foundation for political survival in the U.S. is parasitically attached to Israel’s powerful Jewish forces.”19 On October 10, when Israel had barely regained control over its territory after the Hamas onslaught, the governmental China Internet Information Center (CIIC) alleged that Israel had used white phosphorus bombs. This was a lie that prompted Chinese netizens to compare Israel to the Nazis.20 Chinese officials decided to eradicate some memories of Jewish history and culture in China. In 2024, Beijing canceled a non-political musical about the Jewish refugees in Shanghai, a prohibition which contradicted the regular official celebrations of Shanghai’s offering refuge to fleeing Jews. Already earlier, the city of Harbin removed the memorial tags affixed to buildings once belonging to a Jewish community, such as the former synagogue, and the city’s small Jewish museum was shuttered.21 Inevitably, the Nazi practice of eliminating all traces of Jewish contributions to Germany comes to mind. Also, state publishers canceled the publication of several books on Jewish history.
<Overthrowing the West’s Global Order<9. A Project to Overthrow the West’s Global Order: Kevin Rudd’s (former Australian prime minister) 2024 book, On Xi Jinping, concludes from Xi’s own statements and policies that his true long-term aim is to overthrow the established global order and replace it with a new China-centered system supported by the “Global South.” If this is so, Muslim countries would form the largest single bloc in this new, imaginary order. As the Jewish people and Israel are an integral part of the West, their place in the “new” world order would be greatly reduced. In China’s “Global South” fantasies, the Jew/Israeli could become a fading symbol of the old, moribund order. If Rudd is right, maybe Chinese antisemitism aims at anticipating or even promoting this outcome. Today, China is the only credible initiator of an overthrow of the global order. The only other candidate, though not yet a credible one is radical Islam. The United States, the status-quo superpower, is sending mixed messages.<China is the only country with a credible plan for a radical change of the global orderSome interesting stuff in there
>>2704579was tsarist russia a democracy by either liberal or proletarian standards, chud? that didnt stop bolsheGODS
>>2704585Americans run away when 5,000 of their volunteer waffen ss die because air support was ten minutes late, the Tsar and Kerensky both kept throwing tens of thousands of unwilling conscripts at machine guns thinking human will is the deciding factor in war. The situations are not comperable nor the people nor the classes
>>2704592
The US army is cowardly and mercenary when dealing nonwhite, foreign nations, take over a city government here let alone a state and they will turn it into Gaza
>>2704592
Also you’re not just dealing with the army, there’s the local and state police, the FBI, ATF, CIA, and a dozen other alphabet agencies that you would be on the corkboard of
>>2704596Also 0 tradition od anti semitism its like when everyone your job hates you but s9 does a new guy so its really you thats the problem
>>2704596I bet israelies thibk burgers dont like them enough
>>2704558>>2704581More interesting bits
<The United States sees Chinese antisemitism and the attacks against Israel primarily as an anti-American propaganda tool. Professor Deborah Lipstadt, the United States Special Antisemitism Envoy (until 2024) made this point and called Chinese antisemitism “a cause for alarm.” Chinese officials underlined the propaganda value of the antisemitism quarrel when they declared: “We use the Jews as a stick to beat the Americans.” In other words, antisemitism has become part of the wider big power confrontation. <Hostility to America, Israel, and Jews combine in many countries. Everybody is aware of the strong links between the United States and Israel
<The Jews are Themselves to Blame: Blaming the Jews for their own misfortunes and for the hostility they encounter was originally a mission of the Biblical prophets but has since become an antisemitic trope extended also to Israel. The Gaza war has become the most potent contributor to this thought, but the tendency existed long before. A small group of leftist Israeli and Jewish writers play a major role in this self-blame game. Shlomo Sand’s The Invention of the Jewish People, published in 2009, says it all in the title of his book, and Ilan Pappe’s “revisionist” 2006 book The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine and his other, similar books justify the Palestinianrejection of the creation and continuing existence of Israel.49 Both authors are well known to Chinese academic researchers of the Middle East and have influenced Chinese views. A completely different issue is the reported negative Chinese reactions to some Israeli propaganda, which was considered exaggerated.
<Can the spreading of a meme be dissuaded, limited, delayed or stopped? The question is important with respect to antisemitism. Spreading is accelerated by individuals who act as points of connection or “nodes.” If such individuals can be identified and stopped, a meme can sometimes be reduced or extinguished. The policy implications of calling antisemitism a meme need to be furtherdiscussed. Giving it a label that recalls an infectious illness could be helpful. An end to the current Gaza war would certainly weaken and slow down the spread of this meme but will not stop it in the short term or make it disappear. Its roots are too deep, and it has spread too widely.
<By becoming antisemitic, the Chinese joined the wider world, the South and the North. >>2704596You are insanely retarded and your brain is poisoned by reddit and twitter memes
>>2704604
will do anon
>>2704611That's basically the premise of the report yeah, it's quite funny to skim through. They're very brazen about it lol
>>2704601it's just the classic method of whine about how you got a bad deal even
when you got a good deal so you can get an even better deal
>>2704622Homesty if god is proisrael then god is evil
>>2704625
YHWH being simultaneously perfect while going from a tribal god to a universal one in the new testament will never make sense to me
>>2704628
It’s not even a novel, it’s a short story collection and some of the books aren’t even stories
Firefighters are absolutely amazing people. The house literally right behind me. Caught on fire earlier and I first heard an explosion and I was like what is that but I thought nothing of it that I heard some dude yelling to call 911 and I went outside and I was like holy fuck as there was like huge amounts of smoke coming out of the house already. But by then a bunch of the neighbors had already called and there's two fire departments right near me and they put it out so quick.
>>2704629
God is just humans projecting their own abilities and powers to shape the world (collectively, limited by context) because individually we’re powerless, this includes individual ruling classers
>>2704630God defeated by forskins and bloof
>>2704634It sucks that them, EMTs, and cops all get lumped together as “first responders” and most firefighters have cop ideology.
>>2704630who can forget that time when moses bloodmogged the lord by foreskinmaxxing something cortisol idfk
>>2704644junko was a bit nuts but i've seen it many times where they'll start out liberal and hold some sort of sentimentality for the religion, the rituals, the holidays… but then suddenly they snap and go full Meir Kahane calling for genocide in gaza.
>>2704630that verse is so poorly written that theologists to this day argue over whether zipporah rubbed the skin on the feet of moses, or the child, or god himself. they don't argue about the circumcision part though. this happens literally right after the burning bush incident making it even more bizarre. YHWH speaks to moses in a burning bush only to ambush him later the same night for having an uncircumcized child.
Alright last one for the night, this might be the best one so far tbh
<Universities: Official animosity to Israel and its Jewish supporters encouraged an atmosphere of hostility that is said to have existed in some Chinese universities before 2023. As all universities are government-financed, their policies follow government directions. Visitors and colleagues report that some teaching staff and students are openly expressing antisemitic, including proNazi, and anti-Israeli views. This is how prestigious universities became critical nodes for the spread of antisemitism.
<Objective research and unbiased publications on Israel, Zionism or Judaism have become difficult, unpopular and in some cases impossible. Fewer academics teach and do research on Jewish culture and history than in the past. Similar trends have been reported from Western countries as well. But in contrast to the West, where publicly defending Jews and Israel, fighting antisemitism and objective scholarly research is possible, it is not in China, or only at great risk to the defenders. In 2024, China closed down the first Chinese university in Israel, a branch of Beijing’s University of International Business and Economics (UIBE) after three years of operation. The Chinese professors and students returned home. The reasons were said to be practical and not antisemitic or anti-Israeli, but the closure still sent a message.
<There are also professors who have become not conveyors, but targets and victims of antisemitism and anti-Zionism. Germany, after 1933 when the Nazis came to power, had already demonstrated the lead role of universities in spreading antisemitism and excluding Jews. In fact, it was a double role: many in academia were persecutors and some were persecuted.28 In some universities and institutes the atmosphere has turned ugly. When late Prof. Yin Gang, a nonconformist scholar criticized Hamas’ violence, he was called a “Judeo-Nazi.” Though many respected him for his vast knowledge of the Middle East, he faced a flood of internet insults.29 Other professors report getting written death threats from students who blame them for not condemning Israel.
Chinese students are insanely based
>>2704628
>a poorly written novel.
because it's not a novel. it's several unrelated novels written over several centuries by people from vaguely related cultures stitched together by a priesthood for specific political purposes around the time of the Babylonian captivity.
>>2704626it's historical happenstance. Henotheism evolved independently several times. Henotheism is when you have a pantheon, but one God is treated as greater than the others. Zeus/Jupiter was sometimes treated this way in the Greco Roman pantheon. Once you have a "king" God, the next step to inventing monotheism is to downgrade the lesser Gods into "Demigods" or "angels" or "demons." Once you've done that, you say only one God is truly God. You then take that God's historical features (in YHWH's case, he was a storm/war God) and remove those features, remove his physical attributes, remove his personality, and you have the abstract God of World Monotheism. A personified void.
>>2704618>one kid prays (does nothing)>the guy keeps "distracting" the sniper (who has an AK with no scope) with bricks>the kid bungee jumps into the building, kills the sniperthe kid was the only one who did anything. they won because the sniper was stupid.
>>2704626It didn't make sense to some of the "gnostics" either which is why they retconned the God of the old testament as le demiurge Yaldabaoth.
>>2704664
How anout daoism?
>>2704671
No most videogames are tsundere towards communism like red alert.
In resident evil and final fantasy the bad guys are a megacorp too for example. I think they rather portray communists as incompetent than evil.
>>2704676
Thats the right winger way to do things. The lefty way of doing things is to just organize.
>>2704376Wrong. Oppressed and exploited peoples under euroamerikan colonialism are materially vindicated always. Firstly, let us recognize that everyone on the epstein list is of the epstein people—there are no native or Afrikan implicated in epstein list. 2 in 10 adult euroamerikan males are employed in military, police, firefighter, security, or settler state—rate dispraportionate to oppressed peoples. Chagos is wrong for calling natives and Afrikan imperialist. Chagos devoid of materialism, bringing forth ultra madness fathom only by most delusional mind. Chagos spit on the only revolutionary peoples on continent of Turtle Island to wage war with euroamerikan—native and Afrikan. In this respect, chagos is sprititually amerikan.
>>2704683
armies of the world, unite!
>>2704681Whats wrong with being a firefighter i used to fight fire
>>2704681.
Why are natives and black people the only revolutionary people what about members of those groups that have a class position that is contrary to being a revolutionary what about condolezza rice or a casino owner?
>>2704692it's newsmax. whatever.
>>2704692Bro sometimes i see the news and i get reminded of the turner diaries that scene where an israeli news hows is just screeching about the goyim on air
(I read when i was 17 i didnt agree with it)
>>2704480
there wont be a woke 2.0 because wokeness is just obnoxious moral policing and micro management of society, all that accomplishes is backlash and reaction which led to the rise of the alt right and trump
the problem for liberals is that they took over institutions that are now failing and being replaced by AI and the internet, liberals dominated in the era of television and magazines. but no one reads at all anymore and no one watches tv, these things failing means the left failing as they hitched their ride to failing media
the new new right has hitched their ride to the internet, twitter, podcasts, image boards, etc
>>2704698
When did they do that?
>>2704691Unlike Afrikan and native, the bourgeois genocidal working euroamerikan settler never maintain 500 year protracted people war. Afrikan and native business owners form respective revolutionary national bourgeoisie against fascist monopolists
>>2704703
right wingers appeal to right wing audience, they dont care if a leftoid hates ai, you know for all the left gets accused of HECKIN LOVING SCIENCE, the left sure is embracing ludditeism. But this is a thing that goes all the way back, mary shelly and her husband were rich leftoids who never worked and supported the orginal luddites. and she wrote the anti science novel called frankenstein
>>2704705Gavin always reminds me of shooter McGavin from Happy Gilmore
>>2704705Newsom would probably win because Harris is extremely unlikeable.
>>2704705kamala is going to win the primary because she is going to siphon off the black vote, especially the black female vote, you need that vote to carry the south.
same reason bernie lost or why buttgig will never win, they dont got the black vote.
gavin has 2 years to gain some swag and get hip with the blacks
>>2704706Science and technology has improve life but ai has so far been more good than bad.
>panopticon>killer robots>mass unemployement>images, that look real so the goverment and corporations can scam you even harder>possible existential risk>decline of thinking in gen alpha>mass unemployment>ability for the bourg to replace usIn exhange we get
Alpha fold and a tool that is a little bit better than wolfram alpha and i dont have to learn to code if i dont need the code to be realible
>>2704705Well i guess vance is winning
She already had her chance but chose to bomb gaza instead of winning
>>2704712if the tech is coming, it cant be helped. you have future shock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock >>2704634>>2704639>>2704689Firefighters are disproportionately euroamerikan. Firefighter settler spray leftist. Firefighter trains with police because firefighter are police. firefighter are active cracker reserve fascist army.
>>2704714I fucking hate the democrats so fucking much god damn, the fucking AM from i have no mouth and i must scream doesnt have shit on me when i comes to hating
>>2704714Historically literally none of this shit matters before the first primary. These people are only responding based on name recognition because Harris was the previous nominee. No one is paying attention to this shit except redditors.
>>2704717Well in california its mostly beaners and a few whites.
>Firefighter settler spray leftist.That happened once in the south 70 years ago if you told them to do this today most of them even the rightoids are would be like "not my job"
>Firefighter trains with police because firefighter are policeI trained with cops once, it was just them telling us how to avoid getting shot by an active shooter and we practiced entering with the 2nd wave to treat people who got shot.
And that was the only time i trained with them
>firefighter are active cracker reserve fascist army.I ended up doing that because i wanted a job that served the people instead a bulshit ass corporations i even knew a few fellow commies there
>>2704731Also i left recently got tired of it, i want to something not sure what
>>2704716I skimmed that book when i was 19, i used to work for some training program where i would make trails and shit by day but at night they made me take highschool classes and i skimmed this book instead of working
Litrerally only graduated because i was on firecrew and my captain said if i dont he would kick me off and i didnt know if he was for real but i kinda finished up real quick instead of testing it
>>2704716So what is to be done?
Sometimes i think of ways our side could use ai
>>2704738Well at least newsome mogs vance
>>2704738I think the election will be rigged the porkies have plans they wont leavd it to us to decide
>>2704683
how about you do it, lead frederick?
>>2704742The porkies are unaffected by the election outcome. Gavin and Kamala are both hardcore Zionists and both support war with Iran. They also both support the AI/automation economic collapse. They pretty much only break with Trump on racism and NATO.
honkoid status?
>>2704680If you are able bodied, theres absolutely no excuse for not knowing how to shoot, and physically defend yourself. I can't believe anyone would refuse this. Ok you organize 20 people to get things done in your locality; you address racial issues in the community and hold education groups on capital. 20 nazis who know how to shoot and fight show up. Is your organizing saving you? Now apply this to a grand international scale if you must.
>>2704738I shudder to imagine the rubio presidency
>>2704745>They also both support the AI/automation economic collapseFoolishly
>>2704738>I could see rubio outflanking him as someone who can unite the old neocon wing with the maga wing.what gives you the impression that maga likes or even cares for rubio? he seems to be a non-entity for truMAGAs
>>2704596You're not wrong and ppl who say otherwise are coping.
>>2704758Especially because shooting is both practical and enjoyable, which you can’t say about most hobbies and skills under capitalism
>>2704797in what way is shooting practical for the everyday person? there's no real world use outside of political unrest or a life/death engagement.
ammunition is expensive. a day at a shooting range will run you like $100 just plinking paper targets.
>>2704602did you read the whole thing??
>>2704796Yeah china isnt special for trading with israel but they are as guilty as everyone else but hopefully they stop trading i trust them more to act right than america
>>2704800Being prepared to either defend yourself or to hunt for proteins should supply lines collapse are both practical, actually doubly so if supply lines collapse and you need to defend your own or the community garden from pests
>>2704800Recreational ied making is were its at
>Ten people traveling on a Florida-based speedboat who engaged in a deadly gun battle with Cuban border troops were armed Cuban nationals living in the United States, Cuban state media reported on Wednesday.
>The report, citing a statement from the Ministry of Interior, said that “preliminary declarations” by men detained from the boat had indicated they were intent on “an infiltration with terrorist ends.”
>The Cuban government did not provide any more details about the suspected terror links. But it said the men had been carrying weapons, Molotov cocktails, bulletproof jackets and camouflage gear.
>The authorities arrested one man who had admitted to flying into the island nation to meet the boat, the second government statement said. The majority of the men on the boat have a criminal or violent history, it added. The government also began releasing the names of the some of the dead and injured.
>Five Cuban border guard troops on a government boat approached the speedboat seeking identification, when the people aboard the boat opened fire on Cuban personnel, wounding a Cuban commander, according to the ministry’s statement and Cuban state media.
>>2704462>Gambling the lowestThe lowest is actually "manosphere". You can see that the justification is off for gambling; someone edited over it
>Porn second lowestIt would be interesting to see this study done again, but asking men what the least attractive hobbies are in women. Because while only a tiny minority of men spend more than an hour a day consuming porn, there is a thriving subculture of women who spend hours a day reading nothing but smutty, lurid, deniably sadomasochistic "romantasy" novels. I'm not sure whether that would be seen as a positive ("she'll be a freak in bed") or a negative ("I'll never live up to his (literal) monster cock") to most men. It would be a negative for me.
If anyone's curious, picrel are the most attractive hobbies.
>tfw you read a lot, study German, are writing a book, and hike while taking photos and it doesn't seem to help >>2704462>makeup>cosplayWHAT THE FUCK
My male manipulator fake feminist getting laid plans are in shambles
>>2704827>It would be a negative for me.Coward.
>>2704829No, not really, but I'm worried they aren't very much concerned with "sustainability" at this point.
>>2704827Men don't really care what women are into as long as it's not associated with being fat, because for men women are just property with no interiority.
It's like caring about a dairy cow's favorite color
>>2704827I'm extremely confident that women don't actually find most of those hobbies "attractive" and are just lying because they sound attractive. No woman has ever taken an interest in my woodworking hobby lmao.
>>2704854Have you tried being attractive while having those hobbies?
>>2704731>Well in california its mostly beaners and a few whites.Wrong.
https://www.ppic.org/blog/californias-workforce-is-diverse-but-many-occupations-are-not/ 62% of californiak firefighter are euroamerikan males, along with small minority of comprador labor aristocrat.
>That happened once in the south 70 years ago if you told them to do this today most of them even the rightoids are would be like "not my job"Wrong. Firefighter always with pigs because firefighter are pigs. Every firefighter take pig settler oath.
>I trained with cops once, it was just them telling us how to avoid getting shot by an active shooter and we practiced entering with the 2nd wave to treat people who got shot.Firefighter are genuine strategic targets in people war because they conduct joint day by day operation with genocidal pigs
>I ended up doing that because i wanted a job that served the people instead a bulshit ass corporations i even knew a few fellow commies thereNevermind your moralism, serving the settler klass and kommunity makes you a fascist. You wanted nothing but to be labor aristocrat
>>2704856So instead of being unattractive i could have been attactive damn rethinking my life
>>2704857>>2704857Yep im a fascist for cutting line around a brush fire
So what war will start first? Iran or Cuba? Or maybe Greenland again? Taking all bets folks
>>2704866If the us is going to war with someone, i'd rather it be against someone who can punch back
Also "israel" isnt the one with leverage or in control
>>2704869im sorry but America would flatten Cuba in about 15 minutes, it wouldn't even be much of a fight.
Unless Trump was stupid enough to do something like try to occupy the country, which he probably wouldn't, there's really nothing Cuba could do to prevent the US from crushing them with armed force.
>>2704872Why do they bother repressing sexual and ethnic minorities anyway when they eventually assimilate them into capitalism at thr end?
Look at homos for example
Looks like archive.is doesn't want to generate new archive links right now but here's this:
https://apnews.com/article/texas-ice-shooting-martinez-death-grand-jury-e4882b787c7251cbf494be08976dbeddI hope to god that pic rel is just the family trying to ingratiate themselves with the abbottreich, but knowing the zombie state of the chicano movement, they probably are just reactionary morons.
Venezuela and Italy are the 51st and 52nd states
>>2704875The point is to dehumanize them to the point they will sell themselves to Capital in exchange for acceptance. Ensure they have no identity beyond loyalty to Capital for blessing them with basic human rights. It worked for black Americans(look at how they vote in Dem primaries vs how everyone else votes) and its been extremely successful at co-opting the LGBT community into the Dem tent.
When the "bad cop" wants to genocide you the "good cop" that just wants to enslave you to shekelstein sounds a lot more appealing. Turning every election into an existential crisis for minority groups is also a way to keep them reliably engaged in the electoral system instead of seeking out alternative political paths.
>>2704884
>Also people act like if you vote for a bourgeois party as a way to gain some kind of leverage or stop a particular piece of legislation you can't do other things too, it's either one or the other.
something something Joe Sims.
Are you a member of CPUSA, gay nazi anon?
>>2704872It's a PARTIALLY in reaction to queers violating the social contract with white supremacy; a good chunk of the queer community identify as marxist and anarchist at a way higher rate than your average communities; especially so in urban hubs of the USA. Capitalism integrates "palatable" queers those who fit normative standards of race, class, gender performance, and productivity while casting out the "unproductive" ones. Rahul Rao talks about this in homocapitalism; inclusion is justified through economic productivity or reproducing bourgeois social relations. We see this actively with pink washing and using queerness as a justification for imperialism and settler colonial states such as israel.
>>2704875>Why do they bother repressing sexual and ethnic minorities anyway when they eventually assimilate them into capitalism at thr end?Capitalism is kind like BDSM. It has a dual character. It's historically progressive AND oppressive at the same time. Capitalism has in fact freed people up to live more autonomous sexual lives and dissolved traditional structures (farmers in your 18th-century peasant village being up in your business, sexual/gender deviance has no room to exist). But it's also coercive in all kinds of ways, and it commodifies sexuality, also people go around feeling humiliated because they're exploited and so the right gets people fixated on gender mutants as a scapegoat and so forth as a way of displacing the contradictions of capitalism.
>>2704879>Turning every election into an existential crisis for minority groups is also a way to keep them reliably engaged in the electoral system instead of seeking out alternative political paths.That is true to an extent, but most of the social progress that has benefited LGBT people has not occurred primarily through the electoral system, but because of changes that have gone on in the wider society (which, ultimately and deep under the hood of the historical vehicle here, is due to deeper forces reshaping society which are material factors, urbanization, and technological change). Also when you bring up "alternative political paths" that all sounds and great but what's your strategy. Also people act like if you vote for a bourgeois party as a way to gain some kind of leverage or stop a particular piece of legislation you can't do other things too, it's either one or the other. I don't really believe that is the case. Obviously believing that voting for some Democrat is the engine of liberation is dumb, don't get me started on that.
Hacker Used Anthropic’s Claude to Steal Sensitive Mexican DataA hacker exploited Anthropic PBC’s artificial intelligence chatbot to carry out a series of attacks against Mexican government agencies, resulting in the theft of a huge trove of sensitive tax and voter information, according to cybersecurity researchers.
The unknown Claude user wrote Spanish-language prompts for the chatbot to act as an elite hacker, finding vulnerabilities in government networks, writing computer scripts to exploit them and determining ways to automate data theft,
Israeli cybersecurity startup Gambit Security said in research published Wednesday.
The activity started in December and continued for roughly a month. In all, 150 gigabytes of Mexican government data was stolen, including documents related to 195 million taxpayer records as well as voter records, government employee credentials and civil registry files, according to the researchers.
The hacker breached Mexico’s federal tax authority and the national electoral institute, Gambit said. State governments in Mexico, Jalisco, Michoacán and Tamaulipas as well as Mexico City’s civil registry and Monterrey’s water utility were also compromised.
In this instance, the hacker was able to continuously probe Claude until it was able to “jailbreak” it — meaning it finally bypassed guardrails, the representative said. But even as the hacking campaign got underway, Claude occasionally refused the hacker’s demands, they added.
The attacker was seeking to obtain a large number of government employee identities, Gambit said, though it’s not yet clear what — if anything — they did with them. Researchers said they found evidence of at least 20 specific vulnerabilities being exploited as part of the attack.
When Claude encountered problems or required additional information, the hacker turned to OpenAI’s ChatGPT to provide additional insights. That included how to move laterally through computer networks, determine which credentials were needed to access certain systems and calculate how likely the hacking operation would be detected, according to Gambit.
“In total, it produced thousands of detailed reports that included ready-to-execute plans, telling the human operator exactly which internal targets to attack next and what credentials to use,” said Curtis Simpson, Gambit Security’s chief strategy officer.
https://archive.is/Qlgtr#selection-1182.0-1182.1 >>2704886I think "queer" has become the "judeobolshevik" of 21st century burgerdom. I'm thinking it's because they appear more numerous to suburban wannabe dirlewangers than Jewish people and perhaps because of Zionism's cozy relationship with the ruling apparatus.
>>2704901People who call themselves queer tend to be politically leftist or anarchists as fuck. It's ingrained in a lot of the lifestyle. Whereas I noticed people who call themselves gay tend to be traditional leaning yuppie-ish. Im obviously being funny and crude, but those who call themselves queer are generally the more lumpenized gay folk.
>>2704868i'mma laugh when all these retards have arthritis in their jaws at 60
>>2704925I dont think any of us a living to 60 anon
>>2704630Ladies and gentlemen: The Foundation of Western Civilization
>>2704925Arthritis is a condition affecting joints.
>>2704972
What difference does it make? They're both retarded the Dems are just delusional.
>>2704452>time is running out What are you talking about?
>>2704977she's like 32 and looks like she's 60. also she's ugly as fuck.
>>2704982>>2704977Does she have children?
>>2704996thats horrific but I guess even the ugliest sow can get laid in this sexual economy.
>>2704977to think zoomers are so desperate
>>2704996Lmao imagine having that monstrous creature as you're mother
>>2704992>>2704996>>2704997Laura loomer doesn't have children
>>2704801No I skimmed through it and looked for interesting sections
>>2705110Daym bro this wiki article is a wild ride
<On November 15, 2022, Lind, then 80, was, according to his own account, attacked by a group of people after being called in to fix a water leak. He said he was struck in the head, stabbed repeatedly (leaving "about 50" puncture wounds), and cut severely on the back of his neck ("like somebody was trying to cut my head off").[2] He was left impaled by a samurai sword, and his right eye was punctured three times, blinding him in that eye.[2][5] After he regained consciousness, he shot two of those involved in the altercation, killing 31-year-old Emma Borhanian and wounding the other. Both had been arrested alongside LaSota at a 2019 protest against an event organized by the Center for Applied Rationality (CFAR), and Borhanian had reported LaSota's 2022 alleged drowning. Two of Lind's alleged attackers were charged with Borhanian's murder under the theory that their actions precipitated Lind's self-defense, under California's felony murder rule. Their trial has been scheduled for March 3, 2026.[22] LaSota was contacted by police during the investigation but was not charged.[2] >>2705124They couldn't even kill an octogenarian
>>2704829Look at his hands
good morning zoggers! :)
>>2704856she cute (im suicidal now)
>>2705216She's so scary looking. Like some grotesque living muppet
>>2704977For the love of god, get standards
>>2704457fuck medicaid. form a politburo and build dual power by paying doctors from canada to come over and run the clinics. if the trump regime is dumb enough to yield authority over state services there's no reason not to punish this decision. everyone is going to have to eventually. the whole country is going tits up.
>>2705281>build dual power by paying doctors from canada to come over and run the clinicsWhy would this happen? Otherwise, true.
>>2704681Your lazy lumpen bumfucks are as guilty as your honkies. All yanks are guilty.
>>2705338Go ragebait people
>>2705339I have better shit to do.
>>2705341No you don’t. Go forth and ragebait.
>>2705342No. I know what you’re doing. Bye.
>>2705343No seriously, I actually need you to go ragebait.
>>2705359He’s right until the last sentence. This distrust has also led to the fractioning of the right. A fractioning we currently have the opportunity to take advantage of.
>>2704866Young Amerikkkans will turn on Israel. Not out of solidarity with Palestinians, but as a way to present Israel as the oppressor and !Amerikkka! as the victim.
Yes, left-imperialists, I see through your bullshit.
For you animals, the victim of Zionism is not Palestine, but the poor Yanks! Little cunning Yisrael has infiltrated and manipulated Amerikkka this whole time! Da jooz are to blame for imperialism, da shityanks were fooled and duped! Da shityanks are innocent! Da shityanks dindu nuffin!
>>2705380You must commit suicide bombing on your institutions of savagery.
I will inherit the ruins and live.
>>2705383You’re going to go do something.
>>2705385I am revolutionary by merely breathing.
You are reactionary by simply existing.
>>2705397You are someone who needs to go do something
>>2705398You are shityank
>>2705401You are someone lacking in accomplishments and deeds
>>2705402I am someone, you are no one.
>>2705408You are someone who is particularly unproductive
The DSA and the CPUSA are to the right of socdems. Your caucii are irrelevant. You are less than nothing while your empire sows death and misery around the world. The only good reason to join the DSA or the CPUSA is to sneak a bomb in a meeting and take out as many of the left-imperialists with you as possible
>>2705410You are productive at imperialism
>>2705414You are productive at doing nothing
The disgusting mongrel Alyssa Liu is a war criminal, an anti-communist, an imperialist cocksucker.
The fact that dignified Russian athletes are banned and that anti-PRC animal is awarded gold just shows that the olympics are about yank faggotry, not sports.
>>2705432>>2705432If only imperialists like you did nothing, the world would get rid of 90% of its problem. But no! You Lutheran cocksucker strive to serve imperialism !
>>2705443If this vegetable sexually abused you… well that's on you.
>>2705439Have you you considered doing something?
zohran status?
>>2705471sectarian bullshit
whoever made this doesn't understand the ideologies they're "critiquing" or even that book really
Nothing will happen until Yosemite erupts
>>2704681Wasn't Jay Z in the eastern files?
>>2705498He was deeper in the Diddy stuff which is a seperate mossad pedophile blackmail ring
>>2705493liquidationistcel copium
>>2705503arent these the same who say islamophobia isnt real.
>>2705503Dang, I read it as "zinephobia" at first and thought "FINALLY"
fuck anarchists
>>2705469Yes, and you, yank baboon?
jeepeetee told me that jeedeepee going UP !
It is reactionary to mock Loomer for her looks.
>>2705527GOG (groyper occupied government)
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COMMUNIST ASCII BURNS THE EYES OF AMERICAN DICKRIDERS
>People are leaving the US in record numbers — partly for political reasons, but also because remote work lets them combine high American salaries with other countries’ lower living costs. In 2025, 150,000 more people left the US than arrived, the first confirmed year of net emigration since the Great Depression. Portugal’s American population has jumped 500% since 2020; Ireland welcomed 10,000 people from the US last year, more than the number of Irish who moved to the US; Bali, Colombia, and Thailand saw protests against rising housing costs as high-paid US workers arrived. These digital nomads are often making the move permanent: US nationals are applying for citizenship in Britain and elsewhere at record rates.
first it was american culture now americans themselves are coming to colonize YOUR country. there's 350 mil of us, when shit hits the fan the millions of americans that can afford it will leave and be scattered into the winds, have fun with them
The disgusting mongrel Alyssa Liu is a war criminal, an anti-communist, an imperialist cocksucker.
The fact that dignified Russian athletes are banned and that anti-PRC animal is awarded gold just shows that the olympics are about yank faggotry, not sports.
Alyssa Liu is a black woman.
>>2705585Somalis are jewish goyim. Lying cocksuckers.
>>2705589I don’t think Mao did that
>>2705589lmfao, they're really getting desperate, just making shit up on the spot now. China haters forever btfo
ATTENTION ATTENTIONCOMMUNISTS, SOCIALISTS, DICKRIDERS AND GLOWIE INFILTRATORS, I NEED YOUR ATTENTIONHoudiningot arrested.
https://gofund.me/826555a5f >>2705600Lmao good, fuck that Nazi
TL;DR Our friend Erik is in jail for allegedly trolling a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, and we’re putting together a bail fund for him. If we don't get him out in 10 days or locate a foster the local animal shelter may put down his dog.
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Hey everyone. We do not come here lightly and it is with a heavy heart that we come to you and ask for monetary assistance. Not for ourselves but for a dear friend of ours who was arrested Tuesday February 24th 2026 by the police.
Sometime in November of 2025, not long after the Kirk assassination, our friend allegedly got into a conflict on Instagram with a right wing influencer, Kaitlin Bennet, when she visited their city. In this conflict he allegedly referenced Kirk's assassination and that was enough for her to take these as threats on her life and call the police on him and an investigation was conducted where they allegedly found evidence of plans to harass Bennet next time she visits their City.
He never threatened to hurt or kill her, but they live in one of the most conservative areas in the the country where stochastic terrorists like Bennet can get away with whatever and sic the police on political dissidents.
We spoke with the detective handling his case and he informed me that the state is only seeking probation for him, but as many of you know we live in a tiered justice system and the first hurdle in that justice system is bail bonds. Despite the state not seeing him as dangerous and not seeking to put him in prison or charge him with a felony they set his bail to $20K with his first court date being March 31st.
We will have to go the bail bondsman route which means we need $2k to pay the bail bondsman and get him out of jail. Or somehow raise the full $20k. Past this our friend will need assistance with court fees, lawyer fees, living and eating expenses, and more.
My friend Erik has been experiencing housing instability for over 8 months now living out of a motel in the area. He just landed a full time position 2 weeks ago and was finally going to see some stability in his life which makes the timing of all this incredibly tragic. The sooner we get him out of jail and back to his job the less disruptive this will be to his life.
His dog Jax was also taken to a local animal Shelter by the police and he has 10 days to claim him and if he does not claim Jax then Jax might be put down. Suffice to say he cannot claim Jax while in jail.
Please donate whatever you can time is of the essence here.
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Please see an excerpt below of Erik's project Houdini Magazine, where you may famously know him from:
"HOUDINI magazine is the brainchild of Erik Houdini and a faceless army of working class—writers, artists, musicians, researchers, scientists, producers, first responders, film makers, journalists, clerks, taggers, goths, 'reformed' felons, juggalos, janitors, freaks, radicals, truckers, addicts, activists, schemers, plotters, connivers, psychonauts, conspirators, swashbucklers, dastardly dudes, femme fatales, them fatales— and whoever else decided that today was the day we start giving a shit about each other.
Well over half a million total visitors. The big dogs of the underground. HOUDINI exists to reclaim counterculture from the branded dead. Anti-corpo, broke as fuck, grindset bros who read Marx. Hustlers who respect their own, living theory without reading it, tired of being ground into soylent by the powers that be. Chaos magicians who dog-ear Kropotkin. Real, human, DIY, underground counterculture.
We believe a true counterculture, should it be forged, must be anti-capitalist. It must be anti-algorithmic. We must break through the prison walls of capital's psychic warfare on our souls and into a new era.
Remember: No doomers. Uplift. Struggle."
>>2705607
slacking tssk tssk tsskb
>>2705600Damn bro, just for mentioning Kirk some influencer too? Amerikkka truly is the most authoritarian country on earth. People were already wondering that we hadn't seen him in a while, he could have at least actually done something based.
But still, respect, respect, that's some real shit being in jail. Shit's fucked up
Can't someone claim the dog in his stead?
>>2705600he trolled the pants shitter gun lady. she's like so low on the totem pole lol
>>2705601Reminder that Iran followed the 2015 Obama nuclear deal to the letter despite it also being a massively asymmetrical deal in favor of the US, only for the US to tear it up during Trump 1 before they could get their frozen assets back. So they really have no incentive to fall for it again other than avoiding war. So how they respond will depend on how strong their resolve for war is rather than whether they believe the Americans will hold up their end of the bargain (Americans will not hold up their end of the bargain).
>>2704452forgot 'chives AND forgot to update it lol
>>2705608it's low on my priorities list currently
>Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting.here we go
https://archive.ph/9kvrx It's probably just reacting to the phrase "Jews control" and would say this type of shit if you put in "Jews control Judaism"
>>2705605I mean I know that a lot of zionists are ambivalent toward actions that clearly inflame antisemitism because they believe it to be useful, but it's just really depressing to see. I can't imagine how frustrated I would be if I was Jewish and saw garbage like this.
>>2705560I'd just really prefer not to end up in a death camp if I can help it
The great historical purpose of ChatGPT is to make Agent Kochinski and Destiny useless. ChatGPT is a hyper efficient Agent Kochinski/Destiny who requires no rest, food or water.
>>2705697>>2705697'pro-trump activists' trying to meddle with elections? how many of those there are?
https://libertyvote.com/https://www.electionintegritynetwork.org/there are like tens….
also, I thought it was the ghost of Chavez that meddled with the 2020 elections through smarmatic, as rud giuliani eloquently stated while his spray hair was melting.
The Amerikkkan imperialist deserves the bullet for being a murderous savage.
The victim of Amerikkkan imperialism deserves the gulag for being a retard.
From the suffering of the first-world parasite and the third-world retard will be born the Socialist New World Order.
This is what it must have felt like in the late 80s in the ussr before the collapse. All the signs are here rapidly accelerating.
>>2705589>Xi Jinping Is Literally Hitlerit's so funny how they did "muh uyghur genocide" only for that shit to fall flat because A) no fuckin evidence B) made up by a schizo evangelical fascist C) israel actually genociding muslims in palestine D) The country making the accusations had just spent 20 years destroying the middle east
so now they have to fall back on this nonsense. Abrahamism (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Bahai, Rastafarianism, Mormonism, etc.) is a mind virus and rather than killing the adherents I desire them to be free of their opium.
>>2705817The USSR's collapse was at least partly provoked from the outside by the siege mentality of the capitalist world.
The USA's collapse is entirely on itself. It couldn't even prop itself up through its massive strategic advantages because it became too lazy, too reactionary, and unable to maintain any kind of internal cohesion or coherence..
>>2704469thinken about thos beans
>>2705850Marx had seven children with a woman richer than him
>>2704558it's so funny how I kept pointing out Israel's increasing hostility toward China only to get told "cope dengoid, they're literally best heckin friends". I think it's becoming increasingly indisputable.
>>2705867still selling weapons to israel
but dengoid is barely an insult. israel is dengist too
>>2705873it's not remotely comparable. in 2023 America sold about 300x more weapons to Israel (660 million dollars, mostly explosive ammunition) than China did (2 million dollars, mostly civilian sidearms and knives). Should China stop trading with Israel? Yes. Of Course. But it's not remotely comparable to the US/Israel relationship which is characterized not merely by 300x more weapons sales per annum, but also by free intelligence, free defense (against Iran last year), free money, free weapons, free propaganda. You can acknowledge China's problematic relationship with Israel without pretending it's exactly the same as the US's problematic relationship with Israel.
Oh wait. I forgot. I'm on an imageboard, where nuance goes to die, there's a 66% chance I'm talking to an LLM with a blackbelt in needless hostility right now.
>>2705881ugh here comes the maoist. yeah w/e grampa ur obsolete go to bed
>>2705887how are you getting that out of my post
>>2704618This is the stupidest shit ever, but also very based.
I'm conflicted.
>>2704626Wiki Ekhnaton
Ur welcum
>>2705891Imageboards aren't just the place where nuance goes to die. It's a place where you make a statement and people respond with unrelated nonsense.
>>2705896It's like the Hamas version of the christian student proving his atheist professor wrong copypasta
this
>>2705891 is why people hate trotskyists
>>2705898Did you mean Akhenaten. Freud theorized he invented Monotheism and it was Atenists fleeing Egypt after the overthrow of Akhenaten that came into contact with Israelites and turned their Henotheistic Yahwist cult into what would become Judaism.
>>2705600WHERE ARE CPUSANON AND FELIX
GO BREAK HOUDINI OUT OF JAIL YOU TREATLERS
>>2705917gulag all namefags and flagfags
>>2705881Honestly I feel like even calling China's relationship to Israel "problematic" does a disservice to just how extreme US and Western's unconditional support to the zionists is. It's literally entirely on them, funded and operated by them, China is just a country existing in the US's world and its relationship with other countries is entirely shaped by that. Like who gives a fuck that china trades toasters and whatever Temu shit with Israel? It's entirely irrelevant to why Israel does what it does and is able to do what it does. The idea that China should be embargoing others just seems like a western projection, because that's what our governments do to countries we don't like but can't directly bomb
>>2705922shit was SO cash
>>2705600Lmao, what a dumbass.
>>2704872I don't like Trump but (lgbtq)
trans is sexually explicit.
>>2705924well, but china trades weapons with them too. and them being the 2nd strongest power in the world their ostracizing israel would create permission for other countries to do the same. but yknow w/e
>>2705931everyone already has permission unless it's not really the "free trade" system it advertises itself as…
could it be? >>2705930my weiner gets hard every time I see one
>>2705932omg that is so very trvke and realk??? the way that is real tho???
>>2705931>well, but china trades weapons with them tooNot in any significant way and not to the military
>them being the 2nd strongest power in the world their ostracizing israel would create permission for other countries to do the same. but yknow w/eThat's a really fun story you imagined there anon, but this is the real world and it doesn't work like that
>>2705938oh well if its just a lil its fine. sell just a lil bit o gas to the nazis its fine xDDD
indeed my dengist brotha
>>2704929I hope you die a tormenting death.
>>2705922>nobody here wants to make things less badits not only here its everywhere
>so whats the point of this placesame as the rest of the internet
>>2705931>china trades weapons with them tooscroll up:
>>2705881>it's not remotely comparable. in 2023 America sold about 300x more weapons to Israel (660 million dollars, mostly explosive ammunition) than China did (2 million dollars, mostly civilian sidearms and knives). Should China stop trading with Israel? Yes. Of Course. But it's not remotely comparable to the US/Israel relationship which is characterized not merely by 300x more weapons sales per annum, but also by free intelligence, free defense (against Iran last year), free money, free weapons, free propaganda. >>2705940Mind telling us why China is obligated to destroy her economy to fix a genocide you supported?
>>2705942
The Chinese people are out there every day comparing Gaza to Nanjing, it’s the government and bourgeois it serves that have a stake in maintaining trade
>>2705931you type like a liberal
>>2705945destroy that lil bitchass mawist lenin bitch. u show they/them
>>2705938They have zero reason to be trading with them at all. Not only could they cut off trade, but they could pressure their partners to do the same. This would improve their reputation around the world and allow them to more effectively present themselves as champions of international law and human rights, which would improve their soft power. This would also force the US to pick up the slack at a time when its population is increasingly antagonized about endless aid flowing to Israel while many Americans struggle economically. Obviously China's relationship with Israel is not at all comparable to that of the US, but it still has no merit and is worthy of criticism.
>>2705950>butthe word where anons on here decide to stop reading
>>2705949I wonder if John still hates every single one of us
>>2705498>>2705330Wrong. Jay-Z did nothing wrong and you must libel and slander the revolutionary national bourgeoisie as settler always does. No afrikans are in the epstein files. Only euroamerikan implicated. This because afrikan and native peoples are fighting 500 year protracted people war against the epstein people—euroamerikan settler yanqui monkeys
>>2705589Antisemites when they can‘t comprehend that a landlord wasn‘t a Jew
>>2705957Black people already had their own Epstein though it was Diddy.
>>2705503This should be unironically supported:
>Zionophobia =/= anti-Semitism >>2705949you can also donate to houdini magazine from time to time
>>2705957wrongschizo be a bit mroe subtle with your bait
>>2705931Wrong. Communist China trade to occupied palestine helps palestinians. Read
https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-03/23/c_137058111.htmYou want occupied peoples more crushed and more dependant on monopoly and deeper into poverty. Chinese trade with occupied palestine cannot stop. Will not stop. For prosperity of palestinian
>>2705966there he is! we luv this lil guy. keep at it lil guy
>>2705600Good. Let his dog rot. He scammed this community for houndreds of $s.
Fuck him.
>>2705945Why would ceasing trade with country that has less people than LA county destroy chinas economy
>>2705971Even if it would (it wont) that would just be an admission that China's economy has become inextricably linked to the imperialist world system and their capacity to overturn it would be in serious question.
>>2705966Aparthied boosters said the same thing about south africa being embargoed
>>2705961Diddy fucked professional hollywood whores by contract. Lets be real. Epstein did far worse as euromerikan always do. The two are incomparable but cracker cling for straw to attack oppressed peoples, all in defense of epstein people. Its all a psyop to distract from and mitigate epstein
>>2705977Diddy did worse tho
>>2705940It is fine because it is completely irrelevant to the political question of Israel, why it does what it does and how it is able to do it. It literally does not matter in the slightest and is just used to take away from those who are really responsible, namely the US and its vassals
>>2705950>They have zero reason to be trading with them at allChina is not America, it does not embargo countries unless in direct relation to its own sovereignty. It has to take this position because of it's relative weakness compared to the US empire which controls the world.
>Not only could they cut off tradeThey cannot
>but they could pressure their partners to do the same.They cannot
>his would improve their reputation around the world and allow them to more effectively present themselves as champions of international law and human rightsLiterally nobody on earth gives a fuck about human rights and international law you retard. Are you seeing what you are typing? What kind of delusional fantasyland do you come from?
Lemme guess, the united states?
> This would also force the US to pick up the slack at a time when its population is increasingly antagonized about endless aid flowing to Israel while many Americans struggle economicallyNobody running america caaaaares you moron. 80% of the population could despise Israel to the core and literally nothing would change about american foreign policy, because it is not related to the opinions of the masses. All that matters is if people fear america enough to fall in line, that's all they care about
>Obviously China's relationship with Israel is not at all comparable to that of the US, but it still has no merit and is worthy of criticism.It really doesn't, precisely because it's incomparable
>>2705979Not worse than epstine just worse that you say.
>>2705977>Diddy fucked professional hollywood whores by contractDidn't he drug people and film them without their consent, and then use this as blackmail material to extort further sexual favours out of them? Or something along those lines? That essentially makes him a serial rapist just like Epstein.
>>2705914I do think that historically speaking this was the first mono-theist example of a state-religion, yes.
>>2705933Good for you, I guess.
Another good reason for bombing thirdies.
>>2705914Need to time travel and tell that pharoh hes making a mistake
Imagine no abrahamism
>>2705980>It has to take this position because of it's relative weakness compared to the US empire which controls the world.I don't buy this at all, it sounds like the whole "By Allah, the Ummah is weak" thing that Al Queda types do. The US empire is the weakest it has been since WW2. The relative strength of China by comparison far surpasses even the USSR at its height. If they were to cease trading with Israel there is nothing the US could do to stop them, and if China made it clear that trading with Israel was incompatible with trade with China, most countries would choose China.
>because it is not related to the opinions of the massesNo, but agitating and organizing people is. So not only would it benefit the Palestinians and China itself, it would also benefit the anti-imperialist movement in America. There is no downside beyond a short term loss of profits for some Chinese porkies.
>>2705975Wrong. Only imperialist use this logic for palestine. It is wrong, for China is not net extractor of resources from palestine. China provide palestine with commodity. South afrika was sucked dry by monopolist. South afrika relation to monopolists was extracting resources, which china does not do. Sanctioning south afrika hurt monopolist greatly, but china sanctioning occupied palestine only hurt palestinians because china sanctioning occupied palestine would starve palestinians. That is why China will never seek to starve palestinians of chinese trade.
>>2705991Wrong. There is great downside. Palestinians would only have monopoly goods without chinese communist commodity
>>2705994You type like the guy who used to screech about bidenomic method of production something about prices being high is good for the workers
>>2705994>starveDoes china export food to palestine?
They are already starving at least the israelis would feel some consequences for their actions
>>2706001The entire argument is nonsense because nobody can export anything to Palestine directly. Israel controls the flow of goods to and from Palestinians.
>>2704643
elon has alot more that needs fixing than just a little bit of skin lmao
>>2705984ew who jizzed in his beard
>>2705990>Need to time travel and tell that pharoh hes making a mistake >Imagine no abrahamismSomeone would have invented monotheism anyway. Religion is social engineering technology and so the progression from Nature worship to ancestor worship to polytheism to henotheism to monotheism is one that is obvious in hindsight based on the political goals of the ruling class to increase cohesion, scope, and abstraction of existing ideology.
>>2705991>I don't buy this at allthat is because you are unbelievably naïve
>The US empire is the weakest it has been since WW2. The relative strength of China by comparison far surpasses even the USSR at its heightthe USSR couldn't do shit against the US either and was destroyed, with the US still around in case you forgot.
>If they were to cease trading with Israel there is nothing the US could do to stop themThey control the world man, they have plenty of things they can do
> and if China made it clear that trading with Israel was incompatible with trade with China, most countries would choose ChinaWhy the fuck would China undermine it's own position, give the entire world some kind of trade embargo ultimatum over an issue entirely unrelated to them, while their own standing has barely come to be in it's own for a decade and the united states, their enemy and overlord of Israel is still the dominant hegemonic power in the world? Not to mention it would be an effective embargo of palestinians as well, whose only trade comes through israel.
>No, but agitating and organizing people is. So not only would it benefit the Palestinians and China itself, it would also benefit the anti-imperialist movement in America. There is no downside beyond a short term loss of profits for some Chinese porkies.My man, you are completely delusional if you think the Chinese give a fuck about the impotent, imperialist, chauvinist "anti-imperialist" movement in amerikkka or that any of this shit, which is not even realistic, would effect the palestinians positively. For Palestinians to be free the current american government needs to be overthrown and destroyed, all this shit about China is just scapegoating responsibility and distracting from the real engines behind the horror that is Israel
>>2705984what in da heyoll????
>>2705982More euroamerikan cope. Diddy pay those whores tens of thousands a month. They knew what they sign up for. Epstein crimes are unspeakable and cannot be compared to fucking prostitutes
https://archive.ph/2026.02.26-173646/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/02/26/trump-elections-executive-order-activists/Well the SAVE Act seems to be dead on arrival so it looks like Trump is just going back to good ol fashioned corruption and executive dickswinging
>>2706016>the USSR couldn't do shit against the US either and was destroyedThe USSR helped bring 1/3 of the entire world under communist rule, and was ultimately destroyed by its own leadership throwing in the towel. I think their biggest mistake was not being aggressive enough, allowing the US to recuperate from defeats like Vietnam and go back on the offensive.
>They control the world man, they have plenty of things they can doThis isn't the 1990s anymore. They can't just dictate their will to countries without consequence. Even little Iran is currently defying them. I honestly don't understand this worldview, where BRICS is supposedly successfully breaking American hegemony but that hegemony is also total and unassailable and should never be challenged even through relatively benign means like a trade embargo of an imperial outpost that most people already hates. You people posture as the greatest opponents of American hegemony but then rush to defend passivity in the face of it. If you believe the American Empire is in the process of decline and collapse then the correct course of action is to apply pressure against it wherever you can.
>Why the fuck would China undermine it's own positionThey wouldn't. Israel is broadly unpopular and is a generally small economy. Most countries would likely applaud such a move and just cease trading with Israel just like they did with South Africa. China is more economically important to most of the world than the US is, and certainly more than Israel.
>Not to mention it would be an effective embargo of palestinians as well, whose only trade comes through israel.The Palestinians are already embargoed so it's a moot point. Their only salvation lies in the destruction of the Zionist state.
>For Palestinians to be free the current american government needs to be overthrown and destroyedThen the Chinese and Palestinians have an interest in strengthening the anti-imperialist movement in America don't they? That would be accomplished by forcing the US government to neglect its own citizens even further to prop up a government that increasing numbers of Americans despise.
>>2706024But if anybody suggested China expand its global military footprint to more effectively confront US imperialism I'm sure you'd have a list of reasons why they should just sit on their hands instead.
>>2706019>euroamerikan poster is a diddy defender Lmao
>>2705991>If they were to cease trading with Israel there is nothing the US could do to stop them, and if China made it clear that trading with Israel was incompatible with trade with China, most countries would choose China.What China would gain from this? "We are going to abandon this foreign market because an anti-imperialist on twitter/leftypol told us to do it, this will sure help our slowing-down export-oriented economy"?
In the meantime:
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202602/12/WS698d0acda310d6866eb38c46.html>The innovation has also impressed regional industry insiders. Assaf Livne from Israel said,"The [Chinese] system based on AI provides an innovative approach for our rehabilitation healthcare sector, meeting the growing rehabilitation needs brought about by an aging population." >>2706032excuse me his name is wrongschizo
>China is so great at manufacturing, their EVs are crushing the international competition!>China will stop doing business with Isra-https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202601/21/WS6970911ea310d6866eb34fc6.html>JERUSALEM – Chinese automaker SAIC Motor on Tuesday began the sales of a new hybrid model in Israel under its MG brand, Israeli car importer Lubinsky Group said in a statement.>The mid-size crossover SUV MG S9, a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle model, is known in China as the Roewe RX9.>The seven-seat car is powered by a 1.5-liter gasoline engine and an electric motor with a 24.4-kWh battery, providing an electric-only range of up to 100 km alongside a combined range of over 1,000 km.>[…]>Chinese cars topped the sales chart in Israel in 2025, with 101,346 units sold.It's like when the Serbian president shakes the hand of Putin one day, and sell ammo to Ukraine the next one. When will you understand that China has only one military ally (the DPRK), and is mostly concerned about doing business and managing their internal problems? Xi isn't your friend at the local party meeting. It's a fine country, but business is business.
>>2706045>What China would gain from this?They would weaken a key outpost of the US empire, strengthen dissident sentiment within the US itself, and earn additional respect and admiration from the global south. If you really believe that China can't cease trade with Israel without harming itself to an unacceptable degree, then all you're saying is that China is too intertwined with the imperialist system to meaningfully confront it. If that's the case then why should communists view them positively in the first place? How are they a force for progressive transformation?
>>2706055y-your post is a sh-sham and a h-h-h-humbug
>>2706055It's not my fault if nu-communists think China isn't capitalist. Every one in financial circles know this very well, but somehow here we are supposed to pretend Xi is the return of Lenin.
China is a fine country so far, because they are less aggressive than the US on foreign policy, except on a few matters like Taiwan and South China Sea islands, but otherwise, they won't invade a faraway country like Iraq randomly as a superpower, and this is nice.
But Deng introduced a stock market and private companies in China. The government has some control over them, but they still exist. These companies want to make money. Were you naive enough to think capitalists want to stop making money when a foreign leftist starts talking about "anti-imperialism" or something? You know China cancelled the debt of Sri Lanka after they made a port for them in exchange for exclusive control of the port for 99 years? Seriously, Xi isn't Santa Claus, he is simply smarter than most bourgeois head of states.
Speaking of imperialism:
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202602/26/WS699f1ceca310d6866eb3a3df.html>Xi said China supports Europe's efforts to strengthen its strategic autonomy and hopes the EU will work with China in the same direction, uphold the positioning of their strategic partnership, adhere to openness, inclusiveness and win-win cooperation, and promote greater development of China-EU relations in order to make a larger contribution to world peace and development.Now that Xi says he want deeper cooperation with the EU, is the EU still an imperialist power, or is it anti-imperialist?
Maybe your whole framework for interpreting international relationships is bad or incomplete, and you should go back to the basics, like "what is capitalism?" >>2706064you fool. it's not that they're capitalist. it's that the rest of the wordl does not even realize that they are already socialist communist. they're dengists
>>2706067Yeah, also Haz said America is living under socialism so I guess all of us have a collective delusion, and the US has already achieved socialist communism. I guess I will trust a random anon on /leftypol/ instead of a community of rich educated people who are solely focused on making money and can recognize a money making machine when they see one.
>>2706074now you understand
A last one for the road:
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202602/24/WS699d6a20a310d6866eb3a08c.html
>The government has vowed to continue opening-up at the institutional level, which marks a shift from the traditional opening-up centered on the flow of goods and production factors to a systematic opening-up with regard to rules, regulations and standards.
>This transformation seeks to ensure domestic alignment with high-standard international economic and trade rules, and to foster a market-oriented, law-based and internationalized business environment. The aim is to build what can be described as institutional competitiveness.
>When advancing institutional opening-up in the financial sector, a few things should be prioritized. First, when opening the capital markets, instead of just expanding channels, there should be greater alignment of rules. This means broadening the scope of interconnection mechanisms and cross-border renminbi-denominated products, and benchmarking against international standards. At the same time, enriching derivatives and hedging instruments will strengthen the appeal of renminbi assets and enhance the resilience of financial markets.
>Second, the level of capital account convertibility should be raised in a prudent manner. That way, China can facilitate genuine cross-border investment and financing activities, helping multinational corporations establish cross-border capital pools and streamline procedures for mergers and acquisitions, equity investment and profit repatriation.Honestly, I think this is based because they might make investing into Chinese companies easier, and they talk about putting more money into "social security funds and public welfare systems", but if this is communism, then Bernie Sanders is fucking Stalin.
>>2706086based zohran as always
>>2706026>Then the Chinese and Palestinians have an interest in strengthening the anti-imperialist movement in America don't they?There IS no “anti-imperialist movement” in Amerikkka, you and your fellow western leftists have dutifully cooperated with Zionism and finance capital to make sure of that. Your “communist” parties are explicitly for the strengthening of your imperialist states to expand the quality of life of the Herrenvolk, the difference between the CPUSA and the NSDAP is a rounding error of irrelevant idpol. Why on earth would China support forces hostile to it?
>>2706064most of sri lanka debt wasnt chinese, they arent responsible for the state selling off its assets to be able to pay back its (western) creditors (on the contrary, they are usually happy to forgive/restructure the debt without forcing policy and selling off assets contrary to the westoids imperialists which forced the sale), they just bought it because it was for sale, the fact they had built it isnt related
glad to see that old "muh sri lanka debt trap"cia propaganda op is still going strong even here
>>2706055>They would weaken a key outpost of the US empirewould they really? how the fuck could they even enforce those sanctions when all the surrounding arab states would be happy to help the zionists to please their US master?
>strengthen dissident sentiment within the US itselfwhat? you think "evil chinese are antisemites who wont trade with the only democracy in the middle east" would strengthen dissident sentiment in the usa? ridiculous
>earn additional respect and admiration from the global southlol, a whole load of nothing, especially since "the global south" is barely anti imperialist itself
>then all you're saying is that China is too intertwined with the imperialist system to meaningfully confront ityou can say the same from the trade with EU and USA. "Confront it" doesnt necessarily mean frontal fighting with "sanctions", the whole point of the strategy is to use global south development to slowly dismantle the imperial system, and not to sanction shit to solve the problem
>why should communists view them positively in the first placebecause we count on a long term development and not a direct confrontation in the short term with massive trade war or a world war/nuclear war
>How are they a force for progressive transformationallowing development of global south, challenge of imperialist institutions, development of alternatives to the imperial system
the UNIT brics currency was recently introduced, we dont hear shit about it yet, but its there. This is the chinese way to change the international order, not loud PR and bold actions, but slow chipping and change of the material basis
>>2706091Yes, most of Sri Lanka's debt isn't Chinese, it is true, and China apparently offer loans with a lesser interest rate than the US to countries like Sri Lanka, but the Hambantota International Port was rebuilt by the China Merchants Port Holdings, which is a SOE btw, and once Sri Lanka was unable to pay, they negotiated for a 99-year lease, see
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri-lanka-china-port/exclusive-sri-lankas-cabinet-clears-port-deal-with-china-firm-after-concerns-addressed-idUSKBN1AA0PI/Again, is this good, is this bad? I don't know. All I know is that China is out there to do business, and not to be a benevolent anti-imperialist superpower for the benefit of the grand ideal of worldwide communism.
>>2706098Ok maybe cite a good source instead of being a smart-ass faggot with a screenshot that says absolutely nothing:
>The Western narrative, according to the supporters, conveniently ignores a key aspect of the deal between Sri Lanka and China. The transaction was not contingent on default by Sri Lanka on its external debt to China’s Exim bank; rather it was a lease arrangement for 99 years at a fee of US$1.12 billion.>The money was used to strengthen Sri Lanka’s foreign reserves as the country was facing a balance of payments crisis due to huge borrowings from the International Bond Markets (ISBs) that are mainly controlled by US-based financial agencies.>Priyanga Dunusinghe, a lecturer at the economics department at Colombo University, told This Week in Asia that the debt-trap narrative was allowed to spread because when the port was established “Sri Lanka had not created a business plan, but China had one”.https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3261398/chinese-debt-trap-sri-lankas-hambantota-port-set-debunk-narrative-its-successI would trust Chinaboos much more if you could point out to real data instead of posting a bunch of official talk that means nothing and smugness.
>>2706106>how the fuck could they even enforce those sanctionsThey could force those countries to choose between China and Israel, and do so very publicly. Those Arab governments can then explain to their own citizens why they chose trade with the Zionists over trade with China, which I'm sure will go over great for those local comprador leaders.
>what? you think "evil chinese are antisemites who wont trade with the only democracy in the middle east" would strengthen dissident sentiment in the usa?I don't think anybody would buy such a narrative. Most Americans are no longer sympathetic to Israel. They would see even more money being sent to a government they hate while they struggle to afford rent.
>lol, a whole load of nothing, especially since "the global south" is barely anti imperialist itself>the whole point of the strategy is to use global south development to slowly dismantle the imperial systemDo you not see a contradiction here? If China's policies don't cause any actual harm to proxies of US imperialism, if they don't put China or their allies in a position to disengage from the imperialist system, and they don't lead to countries in the global south becoming anti imperialist, then what's the point? How is this strategy not an abject failure?
>because we count on a long term development and not a direct confrontation in the short termAmerica has already made that confrontation a reality. Pretending otherwise is a suicidal.
>challenge of imperialist institutionsExcept you've been arguing for why there is no alternative to imperialist institutions, no way for China to disentangle itself from the imperialist system. If these "alternatives" don't even allow for major world powers like China to stop trading with a tiny imperial outpost, then what good are they?
>>2706086Mamdanistan keeps winning, even Trump can’t help but recognize Mamdanis game.
>>2706117>Herrenvolk, the difference between the CPUSA and the NSDAP is a rounding error of irrelevant idpol. Why on earth would China support forces hostile to it?Yeah the chinese dont have a problem with the cpusa, just you
Are you tired of obsessing overthis?
>>2706086Trump knew he was about to get mogged
The jihad will continue ziobaby
>>2706108infantile leftkkkom
>>2706086Mamdani has figured out that you can just butter up Trump for five to ten minutes and he'll basically give you whatever you want. There are perks sometimes to having a senile president
>>2706116>They could force those countries to choose between China and Israel, and do so very publiclythose things are usually done unofficially and under the radar, and now you're escalating to "sanction all the middle east to force them to choose!"
>If China's policies don't cause any actual harm to proxies of US imperialismthey cause harm, just not in the way and on the timetable you want. I dont think israel is happy to see its neighbors develop or hezbollah getting chinese weapons, and the weakening of imperial system will in the long term reduce US ability to support them
>China or their allies in a position to disengage from the imperialist systemglobal trade is more than only "the imperialist system", even if the imperialist system obviously has it tentacles into it.
>they don't lead to countries in the global south becoming anti imperialistjust like with russia, they are anti imperialist by accident, in the pursuit of their own interest, and not out of any ideology or love for it in the abstract
>How is this strategy not an abject failurebecause it is changing the global landscape by weakening the imperialist system, developing the south and offering alternatives, regardless of what any state feel about it
>America has already made that confrontation a reality. Pretending otherwise is a suicidal. on that front I kinda agree. I feel they should be more aggressive. But their strategy is still working so far, and much like the ussr against the nazis, every year they gain they're in a better position for the real confrontation. when trump tested them, he quickly backed off when they showed teeth
>you've been arguing for why there is no alternative to imperialist institutionsno, I've been arguing why its understandable to not use sanctions in their strategy, and your confusion of "global trade" with "the imperialist institutions" is I feel dishonest framing
>then what good are theyagain, they are good at developing and offering alternative to the south, not at attacking the west frontally
>>2706140>weakening the imperialist system, developing the south and offering alternatives, regardless of what any state feel about itAlternatives which never seem to translate into actual resistance.
>>2706142what is sahel revolts? what is india and the south telling usa to fuck off with its sanctions demands? what is russia being able to wage war despite the west sanctions? what is iran developing hypersonic missiles and challenging the zionists in missiles matches despite the sanctions?
Id call that actual resistance. Not yet enough for my taste either mind you, but history isnt made on my whims
>>2706142china should do more? maybe. maybe. but so should NATO workers.
>>2705492I guess lib cia blondi?
or just suicide >>2706086there are several reasons to criticize him but this is not one of them
>>2706176critical support, fuck that guy
>>2706176>Tyler, son of Thomashe went and gave him the gambo thrones name
>>2706149>what is sahel revolts? what is india and the south telling usa to fuck off with its sanctions demands? what is russia being able to wage war despite the west sanctions? what is iran developing hypersonic missiles and challenging the zionists in missiles matches despite the sanctions?That's kind of my point though. I want to clarify that I don't actually think China's strategy has been ineffective. The questions I asked about what the point of it was are rhetorical, since undermining the enemy ultimately only works if you take advantage of their decline. On the contrary, I think it's been a lot more effective than you seem to be giving it credit for, so much so that the US is now vulnerable to more aggressive and direct means of confrontation. All those countries you mentioned have been doing just that, and they've done it with far fewer resources and economic power than China enjoys. My issue with China isnt that their strategy hasn't been effective in undermining imperialist power, its that they haven't taken full advantage of the opportunities their success has opened up. Especially in light of the fact that the West has shown a clear awareness of what China is up to, and has no qualms about using hard power to stop them. Eventually this will require a hard power response from Beijing.
>>2706151I won't dispute that at all, although I will take issue with people who seem to expect more from the scattered and impoverished worker's movement in America than they do from a major world power.
>>2706200literalwho and why do we care
>>2706187i smell bourgeois WEF-funded propaganda…!
>>2706200I didn't know he was sick.
>>2706200i ain't clickin that, just say who
>>2706192>I won't dispute that at all, although I will take issue with people who seem to expect more from the scattered and impoverished worker's movement in America than they do from a major world power.only the working class can free the working class
>>2706211I wonder when there will be another attempt
>>2706211Ironic because he looks like a monkey
>>2706211at least he's accurately repeating his hitler talking points as opposed to other neo-nazis who tactically ignore the anti-slav stuff and simp for russia
>>2706211>"Go squat and drink your vodka somewhere else"Go take your Triple Eagle Patriot Burger with extra pickles and shove it up your ass while you jerk off to Hitler's speeches
>"No empire!"Remember the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Kyivan Rus?
>"Slavs aren't white"They are. It's not just Westernoids like Fuentes the Eternal Clittycel.
Let's face it. This is how retarded Fuentes is!
>>2706225>They are"Race" is a pseudoscientific social and economic construct created by capitalists to justify imperialism. There is no such thing as "whites" or "blacks" or "browns" or "yellows" or "red-skins". It's all made up to create an artificial hierarchy to divide the workers and prevent them from uniting.
>>2706219Yet Babiš is about to slowly slide towards Suicidal Russophilia as Russia is slowly destroying itself from the war. Russia's government is encouraging students to get pregnant just for 1 reason - to supply the Putinist war machine with obedient soldiers that will be avenged by their female relatives who will break Russia from within………… and I'm loving the chaos!
>>2706228People now just notice race and attractiveness more than class inequality nowadays and that's why the smart members of the working class are turned down more than the dumbest jock who can't spell "bourgeois" right
>>2706219>other neo-nazis who tactically ignore the anti-slav stuff and simp for russiaimaginary ones, I suppose. almost every nazi on earth simp for ukraine.
>>2706281You could just show him the cult of personality around Stalin or Mao and say that if he does communism there could be one for him. He'd immediately liquidate all porkies and nuke the NATO headquarters in Brussels.
>>2706086is this good, bad, posturing, trashy politics, fake opposition politics? all at once?
>>2706281Trump is easily flattered by people who are popular, which mamdani certainly is, at least for now.
>>2706236>People now just notice race and attractiveness more than class inequalityYou mixed up the past for the present. Now people are broke and can’t fuck.
It's happening
>>2706315i wish mark. i wish.
>>2706320this guy is going to be the next president
unfortunately
>>2706320Hard work, but not smart work
>>2706323There’s not going to be another election, and even if there was, democratic support has already collapsed.
>>2706323Probably.
>>2706328>There’s not going to be another election, and even if there was, democratic support has already collapsed.90% chance there will be, burgers are reformist retards who think they can reform / "voot" "the fascism" away.
To claim there won't be another election is to claim there is a happening, to claim there is a happening you claim the Burgerreich is falling, we all want it to fall but it isn't happening.
>>2706348Zio president fears the ZOHRAN
>>2705175My first reaction was that it was AI, didn't even need to look at his hands.
>>2704452So unnecessary protest proliferators and sufferers, how did protesting work out for you during all this time?
Clear instructions were to not cause trouble, then you went out of your way to cause trouble and support Palestine. A country with every single person inside it who wants your colony to fall. Excellent work, you have suffered unnecessarily. I hate being that smug pompous prick that says I told you so but I told you so.
Now let's say that now you are needed to protest, you will be exhausted and politically weaker than you were before and our actual adversaries are even stronger than before.
Being a reactionary force has many disadvantages, really you don't ever fight for anything that will improve your life.
So now I am asking you can you exchange your reactionary behavior for tempered reason?
Take a deep breath, relax and think, we have all the time in the world.
We have time to think about what is actually important, time to think about what it is that you can do, think about where the problems truly are. Time to think about whether or not we are solving a problem or making another problem worse.
Our biggest problem is a lack of freedom. How do we get past this lack of freedom? Housing.
Our focus should be housing. Very simple.
A problem that does not affect us is Palestine. It is too far out of range for us. I understand that people will get upset about this. That's ok, you don't need to say anything, instead just focus on the actual problem. No housing.
What can we do to improve housing?
No need to be angry. But your boss will never give you enough money. How do we force this?
There is a very high demand for houses, how do we lower the demand in a fair manner? Think careful. Be concise. Be precise.
I will leave it with you.
>>2706278Sawant is a trot with a bad case of ESL, retard
>>2706370what a dumb reply
>>2705110a neolib who''s done more than anyone on this board btw
>>2706372>and that Social Democracy is objectively the midwife of fascismPretty sure nobody "realized" that since the 30s when it led to retarded infighting that helped the fascists win and was promptly abandoned.
>>2706377Name one time that fascism has emerged without the explicit support of Social Democracy.
I'll wait.
>>2706372Fascism is when you build houses?
>>2706362I still remember the time Donald sex trafficked Maduro.
Maduro was the active President of Venezuala.
In mere hours he was blindfolded against his will and flown on a private jet to Donald's island into mar-a-lago.
>>2706379Even the first time.
Now do us workers of the world a favor and kill yourself instead of wasting everyone's time with your baseless babbling.
>>2706383Fascism is when you use imperialism as a tool to build up the homeland at the expense of everyone else, so yes. Fascism is when you build homes for the American Volk using the money plundered from the world with American Imperialism.
>>2706394The fascists won a decisive victory in WW2 and we are currently living in the world that they built after the war, if you don't realize that you're either illiterate or retarded.
>>2706396The reason they won is largely because of Social Democratic collaboration with them to create the "rules based international order", BTW.
>>2706384>>2706379>immediately ceding to the nazis and helping them kill communists roflThe Nazis sent social democrats to the camps wtf are you people on about.
>>2706375Yeah ive never tried and failed to kill.and 80 year old man
>>2706401Incorrect, the average SPD member joined the Wehrmacht and waged genocidal war on the Soviet Union. Only a very small number of SPD members were ever arrested or sent to the camps, the VAST majority of them simply went back to work and continued collaborating with a state and regime they had always supported over the Communists.
Meanwhile, the Communists continued to resist for literally the entirety of the Reich's rule, and KPD members were murdered on sight by the Nazis.
Furthermore, the Nazis COULD NOT have come to power without the support of the SPD against the Communists.
Read Dutt, or better yet, just go drown yourself.
>>2706372uygha read a history book past 1931
>>2706410>Incorrectoh my God wrongschizo has evolved
>>2706410>the VAST majoritywait no, it's felix!!!!!! he's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2706410>Only a very small number of SPD members were ever arrested or sent to the campsThat "small number" included their entire leadership and all their prominent members lmao. All you're really saying here is that their rank and file were less militant than the communists, which is both obvious and also doesn't in any way prove that social democracy is an ally of fascism. Also, even the statement "social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism" was based on the premise that revolution was an immediate possibility. The whole argument was that when revolution is possible within a few years, anybody who is against it (including reformist socialists) is more an obstacle than an asset. Outside of that context it makes no sense, and both before and after the 1928-1933 period the Comintern entertained no such ideas. Why people cling to such an idea so long after it was abandoned and even the conditions that justified it are gone I have no idea.
>>2706401Furthermore, the Social Democrats opposed any punishment of the Nazis after the war because both the Social Democrats and the Nazis are primarily petty bourgeois movements that exist to further petty bourgeois class interests.
This is why the DSSA's big plans for America are not the abolition of the Capitalist system, but simply the abolition of billionaires, the big bourgeoisie, and this is explicitly done by enriching the petty bourgeoisie. At their best, Social Democrats are petty bourgeois reformists.
>>2706417Yes, that small number was a few hundred at best while the KPD's rank and file was hunted down and exterminated by both the Nazis and their collaborators in the SPD.
Name one time in history where Fascism has come to power without the explicit support of Social Democracy.
You have yet to do this.
Is it because you can't?
>>2706424MLs are just succdems with Big portraits and red paint
fascists are just succdems who tradlarp and do genocides
anarchists are just succdems who pretend to abolish the state prematurely
succdems are succdems
it's all succdems. We live in a world where Marx was misinterpreted and the masses unwittingly repeat the theses of Proudhon and Lassalle.
it's a succdem world.
>>2706417Also much of the SPD's leadership collaborated with the Nazis.
To quote from a book you've clearly never read (because it was written by a Marxist, to which you'd react like a Vampire caught in the sunlight), "The German Communist Resistance":
>When the Nazis came to power, the SPD continued to validate the KPD’s analysis, preferring conciliation to confrontation. The socialists refused to participate in the anti-Hitler general strike in the aftermath of the Reichstag coup. This was a critical decision, because the proletariat believed that the general strike could defeat the Nazi coup de force, just as it had defeated the Kapp putsch in March 1920. Goebbels’ diary shows that the Nazis feared this general strike more than anything else; the first meeting of Hitler’s cabinet was entirely devoted to this eventuality.
>The SPD had been powerless to prevent the right-wing deputies from granting Hitler the benefit of Article 48. The elected representatives of the SPD and the KPD together would have reached the required quorum, but the communist representatives were hunted down, arrested and tortured (on the basis of police lists drawn up by the SPD prefects) while the SPD representatives continued the parliamentary routine.
>In order to avoid the Nazi criticism of being a “party from abroad,” the SPD left the Socialist International and even approved the Nazi foreign policy program in May 1933!22 While several Social Democratic leaders went into camps or exile, many others collaborated or remained in the Reich without further concern. Minister Severing, for example, withdrew from business but remained in Germany, receiving his pension under the new regime. This was also the case with Noske, the socialist leader who had led the crushing of the Spartakists and the massacre of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht.
>The Social Democratic leadership in Württemberg decided to dissolve itself by calling on the SPD municipalities to “supportthe new order and the national revolution.” When the Berlin section of the Young Socialist Workers organized clandestine work and protected the
organization’s money from the Nazis, its leader demanded an end to “these small illegal schemes.” In the Berlin-Brandenburg district, sections of the
SPD’s order service (the Reichsbanner, which had 160,000 militiamen)
received this circular:
We are left with three possibilities: The use of the violent methods of the communists. But it is clear to every one of our comrades that these methods are
criminal and must be left aside;
Abstention;
The search for collaboration within the framework of practical life.
>For years we have carried in our hearts, faith in Germany and in the future of Germany. That is why we will claim our place in the new life of the German state and do for Germany what it expects of us: our duty. The executive committee negotiates with the competent authorities about the activity of our association. The following points are fundamental: culture of friendship; assistance to veterans; youth education; military preparation; voluntary work service. https://www.bannedthought.net/Germany/KPD/NaziEra/TheGermanCommunistResistance-1933-1945-Derbent-OCR-sm.pdf >>2706434>because it was written by a Marxist, to which you'd react like a Vampire caught in the sunlightoh my god it really is felix. felix i've always wanted to ask, do you have an internal monologue? Like do you hear your own words in your head before you say them? or are you one of those people who just say things without the internalization beforehand?
And look, simply by asking him to ground his arguments in historical materialism, the Sabotabby has retreated faster than the Canadian Army after a Taliban IED.
>>2706424>Furthermore, the Social Democrats opposed any punishment of the Nazis after the war because both the Social Democrats and the Nazis are primarily petty bourgeois movements that exist to further petty bourgeois class interests. That's not what the Comintern said. Dmitrov argued in 1935 that they were workers parties and that communists needed a united front with them. After the war the ruling party of the GDR was formed through a merging of the KPD and SPD. Again, the social fascism theory was one adopted by the Comintern in response to a particular set of conditions, and then rapidly abandoned when those conditions changed (or more accurately, were shown to have never existed in the first place).
>>2706434>The German Communist ResistanceThe same German communists who formed a coalition government with the social democrats in the GDR after the war?
>>2706444Historical materialism means grounding your position in concrete conditions at a given time. What you're doing is taking a conclusion and applying it outside of those conditions, which is dogmatism. The Comintern abandoned this position because they understood that these conditions had passed, yet you still cling to it.
Reminder that Trump has given over $20 billion USD in taxpayer's money to Israel in 2025 alone.
Wonder what that money could've done for working class Americans…
>>2706447You have yet to name a single time that Fascism has come to power without the explicit support of Social Democracy.
This is because you cannot do something impossible, no matter how hard you try.
You ignore 99% of my arguments to cherry pick individual phrases and sentences to respond to, and act as if that has disproven any of my central point that Social Democracy was instrumental to both the rise of fascism and it's rule in literally every nation where Fascism has ever taken power. Social Democracy, objectively, historically, is the midwife of fascism. Fascism cannot exist without Social Democracy's aid.
>>2706450>You have yet to name a single time that Fascism has come to power without the explicit support of Social DemocracyChile, where the fascist coup targeted a social democratic government.
>>2706451Pinochet was not fascist. He was a neoliberal who favored foreign interests over domestic ones.
You don't even understand what fascism is, no wonder you favor collaborating with it.
>>2706451>>2706460we live in a doomed world where fascoids won and MLoids are too busy not even purging each other but impotently yelling at each other on the gayest type of forum
>>2706460NTA, but Pinochet was a right wing populist, conservative, nationalistic, a free market neoliberal, and an oppressive dictator who kidnapped tortured and murdered communists and socialists.
What exactly is your definition of fascism? He certain meets the pop culture definition of the term "fascist" if not the technical definition.
>>2706460correct. he was a dengist.
>>2706460>Pinochet was not fascist. He was a neoliberal who favored foreign interests over domestic ones. Completely meaningless distinction. Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of finance capital, and this accurately describes Pinochet's regime.
>You don't even understand what fascism is, no wonder you favor collaborating with it.Hmm, let us consult Georgy Dmitrov, who penned the main theories on fascism endorsed by the Comintern.
<Comrades, the development of the united front of joint struggle of the Communist and Social-Democratic workers against fascism and the offensive of capital also brings to the fore the question of political unity, of a single political mass party of the working class. The Social Democratic workers are becoming more and more convinced by experience that the struggle against the class enemy demands unity of political leadership, inasmuch as duality in leadership impedes the further development and reinforcement of the joint struggle of the working class.<The interests of the class struggle of the proletariat and the success of the proletarian revolution make it imperative that there be a single party of the proletariat in each country. Of course, it is not so easy or simple to achieve this. It requires stubborn work and struggle and is bound to be a more or less lengthy process. The Communist Parties, basing themselves on the growing urge of the workers for a unification of the Social-Democratic Parties or of individual organizations with the Communist Parties, must firmly and confidently take the initiative in this unification. The cause of amalgamating the forces of the working class in a single revolutionary proletarian party at the time when the international labor movement is entering the period of closing the split in its ranks, is our cause.<We are for the political unity of the working class. Therefore, we are ready to collaborate most closely with all Social-Democrats who are for the united front and sincerely support unity on the above-mentioned principles.<We welcome the growing efforts among Social-Democratic workers for a united front with the Communists. In this fact we see a growth of their revolutionary consciousness and a beginning of the healing of the split in the working class. Being of the opinion that unity of action is a pressing necessity and the truest road to the establishment of the political unity of the proletariat as well, we declare that the Communist International and its sections are ready to enter into negotiations with the Second International and its sections for the establishment of the unity of the working class in the struggle against the offensive of capital, against fascism and the menace of an imperialist war.https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm Fellas I'm starting to think these liberation caucus people have the juice. The vibes point to Maoism my broathers and sisters
>>2706468and that is bad because we should be aiming for dengism. which we already have. so things are fine as they are.
<We would not be revolutionary Marxists, Leninists, worthy pupils of Marx, Engels, and Lenin, if we did not suitably reconstruct our policies and tactics in accordance with the changing situation and the changes occurring in the world labor movement.
<We are enemies of all cut-and-dried schemes. We want to take into account the concrete situation at each moment, in each place, and not act according to a fixed, stereotyped form anywhere and everywhere, not to forget that in varying circumstances the position of the Communists cannot be identical.
<We want soberly to take into account all stages in the development of the class struggle and in the growth of the class consciousness of the masses themselves, to be able to locate and solve at each stage the concrete problems of the revolutionary movement corresponding to this stage.
This can't be… Dmitrov is saying that copy pasting ideas from 100 years ago is with no consideration of context… bad??? How is this possible???
>>2706468Mao is always right.
>>2706447>Again, the social fascism theory was one adopted by the Comintern in response to a particular set of conditions, and then rapidly abandoned when those conditions changed (or more accurately, were shown to have never existed in the first place). Everything you say is fascist ideology. You are a social fascist, for you deny everpresent historically founded social fascist class collaboration with bourgeoisie. Look at amerikan social demokkkrats. You defy dimitrov line. Why is it necessary for the realization of the political unity of the proletariat that there be complete independence from the bourgeoisie and a rupture of the bloc of Social-Democrats with the bourgeoisie?
Because the whole experience of the labor movement, particularly the experience of the fifteen years of coalition policy in Germany, has shown that the policy of class collaboration, the policy of dependence on the bourgeoisie, leads to the defeat of the working class and to the victory of fascism. And the only true road to victory is the road of irreconcilable class struggle against the bourgeoisie, the road of the Bolsheviks.
>>2706467Dmitrov was decisively disproven by history, wherein the SPD collaborated with the Nazi government both in it's rise to power and during the period of it's rule, as I have already proven by quoting from a much more recent book.
It's funny how you accuse me of clinging to an ancient dogma from the 1930s when you are doing the same thing here.
Furthermore, even under your definition, fascism must be nationalist. Neoliberalism, by nature, is internationalist. It is not fascist. Fascism is a specific form of government, not just a vague definition you can apply to whatever you want.
>>2706473I never said Mamadani was a fascist. What I said is that Fascism cannot emerge without the support of Social Democracy because both of them are products of the same class, the petty bourgeoisie. Mamdani is a petty bourgeois reformist while fascism is petty bourgeois revolutionism. The only difference between the two ideologies is the existence of a crisis to force revolution.
>>2706470Ah yes, we need more capitalist growth and environmental destruction. If every nation adopts this, socialism will arrive long after the climate hell collapses civilization. The fact that anyone can think dengism makes sense outside of china show's how widespread the capitalist delusions are; it's a weak materialism. Most leftists don't observe things in fluidity, or according to the conditions, they pick a camp, and apply that same campist theory to every single situation and nation. This is idealism, not materialism.
>>2706478>Dmitrov was decisively disproven by history, wherein the SPD collaborated with the Nazi government both in it's rise to power and during the period of it's ruleThen they collaborated with the communists after the war and combined with them to form the SED. They also went down fighting in Austria in an armed uprising against the fascist government there. The correct conclusion one gets from studying fascism and social democracy is not that the latter is a "wing" of the former, but that it vacillates, sometimes coming down on one side and sometimes on the other. This is to be expected from a movement that is essentially a coalition between the right wing of the proletariat and the left wing of capital.
>Furthermore, even under your definition, fascism must be nationalistThat doesn't follow from the Comintern definition. It's simply the open dictatorship of finance capital. Nationalism is not implied, although Pinochet certainly considered himself a nationalist anyways.
>>2706470Deng would tell you trying to do Dengism without Maoism first is retarded.
>>2706486correct. the larger category that contains all those groups you mentioned is called dengism. and it is them that destroyed fascism. and now dengism reigns.
>>2706480Wrong once again, the SPD opposed the formation of the SED and force had to be used to ensure their compliance both before and after the merger. Thousands of social democrats were purged from the SED and as soon as there were adequate numbers of trained Communists to replace them, they were replaced in the DDR. The only reason why the SED was created is because the KPD was hunted down and nearly exterminated by the SPD their latter allies on the the far right and so the Communists lacked the numbers to actually, physically govern the state. The SED, much like the DDR itself, was never supposed to exist but allied treachery forced Stalin's hand.
When it comes to the Social Democrats in Austria, once again you are wrong. The Fascists came to power only with the assistance of the Social Democrats, as is clearly outlined in chapter 7 of Rajani Palme Dutt's book, "Fascism and The Social Revolution"
To quote:
In the first place, Austria revealed a conflict between two rival forces of Fascism, the
Heimwehr and the Nazis, openly reflecting the battle for domination of rival imperialist and
Fascist Powers over the living body of the Austrian people. There could be no more striking
demonstration of the real role of Fascism as the chauvinist predatory policy of particular
groupings of finance-capital, belying all the “national,” “popular” and “pacific” pretences. The
battle of Fascist Germany and Fascist Italy over the body of Fascist Austria provides a foretaste
of the “majestic peace of World Fascism.” Both these forces were in fact equally united against
the working class, but sharply in conflict between themselves for the dominant position. In the
initial stage the Clerical-Fascism of Dollfuss, subordinate to Italian Fascism, has conquered; but
the further development of events may still bring a change of combinations and the possible
ultimate dominance of the Nazis and Pan-German Fascism. In this situation the fatal policy of
the working-class organisations under Social Democratic leadership was to endeavour to support
one Fascist group against the other, Dollfuss against the Nazis, as the “lesser evil,” and thus to
smooth the way at every stage for the advance and victory of Fascism.
Second, the Fascist dictatorship of Dollfuss grew directly out of bourgeois democracy under
Dollfuss, even more clearly than the parallel Hindenburg-Hitler process in Germany. Dollfuss
was acclaimed throughout Western Europe as the “champion of democracy against Fascism”
(i.e., against the German Nazi menace), and on this basis was supported and tolerated by Social
Democracy, at the same time as in fact he was carrying through the transition to Fascism. Up to
the last, on the very eve of the workers’ rising, Social Democracy was offering to accept and
support an emergency dictatorship of Dollfuss, the suspension of the parliamentary regime, and
institution of a form of Corporate State, on condition of being permitted to exist under these
conditions-the clearest, most conscious expression of the line of Social Fascism. The policy of
Social Democracy, of the “lesser evil,” here receives its crushing exposure no less heavily than
in Germany.
Third, the Austrian working class was the most highly organised in the capitalist world. In a
population of six millions the paying membership of the Social Democratic Party numbered six
hundred thousand, and the voting strength one and a half millions, or 70 per cent. of the
electorate in Vienna and 40 per cent. of the electorate in the whole country. There was no
question of a “split” in organisation. The Communist Party, although playing a role of great
significance in the fight (it alone gave the call for the general strike on February 10, which was
forced by the workers on the reformist leadership on the 11th), and in the actual launching of the
fight (Linz, where the united front of the Communist and Social Democratic workers had been
established in defiance of the reformist leadership, and the fight was opened against the express
orders of the reformist leadership), was nevertheless extremely weak in numbers. The attempt to
explain the advance and victory of Fascism by the “split” in the working class through the
existence of Communism is thus exploded once and for all by the example of Austria. Social
Democracy boasted of its sole complete control of the working class, and thereby admits its sole
responsibility for the outcome. “There was no split in the Austrian Labour Movement; the
Communists were merely an insignificant minority. The fact that so powerful a party should
have been completely smashed is now naturally engaging the attention of Socialists in all
countries” (Otto Bauer on “Tactical Lessons of the Austrian Catastrophe”). In reality, the
Austrian workers were split, and therefore defeated; but the split was within Social Democracy,
between the workers and the leadership, and through the action of the leadership. The real
question of the split in the working class through the existence of a Social Fascist leadership is
thus laid bare beyond the possibility of concealment.
Fourth, Austrian Social Democracy was, despite the smallness of the country, in its
theoretical role and in the high degree of organisation and supposed “practical results,” the
leading party and the “model party” of international Social Democracy, and in particular of Left
Social Democracy. Where German Social Democracy or British Labourism was far more glaring
and shameless in its virtual or specific repudiation of Marxism and acceptance of capitalism, the
corruption of the Austrian Social Democratic leadership was covered under the subtle sophistries
of “Austro-Marxism.” Further, many of the leaders were obviously “sincere” in their democratic-pacifist betrayal of the struggle; even though by their policy they did everything to assist the
strengthening of capitalism and the advance of Fascism, even though by their policy they made
the defeat of the struggle certain, though they failed to prepare it, to organise it or to lead it, and
did everything to prevent it, nevertheless, when the workers launched it in spite of them, some of
them took part and suffered. This is commonly accounted to the Austrian Social Democratic
leadership for virtue and for rebuttal of the charge of “Social Fascism.” On the contrary, just this
makes the real role of political treachery of the whole line of Social Democracy far more clear
and unmistakable. The question of politics is not a simple question of subjective “sincerity.”
Long ago, at the Second Congress of the Communist International, when Serrati endeavoured to
defend the reformist Turati as “sincere,” and argued against the Twenty-one Conditions on the
grounds that it was impossible to produce a “sincerometer “ or test of sincerity, Lenin replied:
“We have no need of such an instrument as a ‘sincerometer’; what we have is an instrument to
test political directions.” And it is in this sense that the role of Austrian Social Democracy is
revealed with unexampled clearness, with a completeness and relative absence of complicating
factors unequalled elsewhere, as a role of direct service and assistance to the victory of Fascism.
Fifth, the armed rising of the Austrian workers, both in its strength and in its weaknesses, has
marked out and lit up the future line of the fight of the international working class against
Fascism. To the experiences and lessons of this struggle, alike political, strategic and tactical, it
will be constantly necessary to recur in every country in the further development of the struggle
against Fascism.
>>2706486Fascism was destroyed by Communists, the other two collaborated with Fascism both before and after the war, and continue to collaborate with it today (See: Ukraine)
>>2706486>>2706488>>2706493Fascism will be destroyed when capitalism and liberalism are abolished wholesale
>>2706493>>2706495indeed. that is why the usa and it's sphere of influence are not fascist. because they are now socialist (dengist) and that killled the fascism in them
>>2706492>Wrong once again, the SPD opposed the formation of the SED and force had to be used to ensure their compliance both before and after the mergerRight and I'm sure the Nazis applied no force at all to the SPD when they cooperated.
>The Fascists came to power only with the assistance of the Social DemocratsYes, the SPO backed one fascist group against another because they perceived it as a lesser evil. Much like how the Soviets backed American and British imperialism against Japanese and German imperialism for the exact same reason. Then afterwards, social democrats initiated an armed uprising against this government. This clearly supports my thesis that social democrats are vacilators that will come down on one side or the other depending on the conditions.
>>2706495Fascism will only be destroyed when Communism becomes the leading ideology of the world, in the same way that Capitalism is today.
>>2706498The United States is neo-liberal and so it is objectively not fascist, this much is correct. Neo-liberalism is worse than fascism in most ways but it not yet encountered a severe enough crisis to question it's legitimacy and force it's full militarization.
>>2706500
>Right and I'm sure the Nazis applied no force at all to the SPD when they cooperated. Correct, the Nazis only arrested a few hundred Social Democrats during their entire existence. Virtually no force was used against the SPD at all. They willingly and openly collaborated with the Nazis in order to avoid repressions, because the primary difference between Fascists and Social Democrats, on a personal level, is courage.
>Yes, the SPO backed one fascist group against another because they perceived it as a lesser evil. Much like how the Soviets backed American and British imperialism against Japanese and German imperialism for the exact same reason. Then afterwards, social democrats initiated an armed uprising against this government. This clearly supports my thesis that social democrats are vacilators that will come down on one side or the other depending on the conditions.This is not what happened in Austria, I'm simply not going to quote an entire chapter of Dutt's book at you. Dolfuss rise to power started far earlier than that. The Social Democrats supported the fascists against the communists for the entire interwar period and actually prevented a proletarian revolution from coming to power in 1918-1919.
To quote Dutt, once again:
As in Germany, so in Austria the issue of the workers’ struggle cannot be judged solely on
the basis of the final stage of the Fascist coup, of the days of February 1934, but must be seen in
relation to the whole line of development of 1918-1934. just as the strangling of the 1918
revolution in Germany by Social Democracy laid the basis for the ultimate victory of Fascism, so
also in Austria.
The victory of the proletarian revolution in Austria was fully in the grasp of the workers in
1918-19, and was only prevented by Social Democracy. This is common ground, and is admitted
by the Social Democratic leaders themselves. Otto Bauer describes the situation at the end of the
war in his book The Austrian Revolution of 1918:
“There was deep ferment in the barracks of the people’s army. The people’s army felt
that it was the bearer of the revolution, the vanguard of the proletariat…. The soldiers with
arms in hand hoped for a victory of the proletariat…. “Dictatorship of the proletariat!” “All
Power to the Soviets!” was all that could be beard in the streets.”
He continues:
“No bourgeois government could have coped with such a task. It would have been
disarmed by the distrust and contempt of the masses. It would have been overthrown in a
week by a street uprising and disarmed by its own soldiers.
Only the Social Democrats could have safely handled such an unprecedentedly difficult
situation, because they enjoyed the confidence of the working masses…. Only the Social
Democrats could have stopped peacefully the stormy demonstrations by negotiation and
persuasion. Only the Social Democrats could have guided the people’s army and curbed the
revolutionary adventures of the working masses…. The profound shake-up of the bourgeois
social order was expressed in that a bourgeois government, a government without the
participation in it of the Social Democrats, had simply become unthinkable.”
The role of Austrian Social Democracy was thus in fact exactly parallel to that of the
German. The power of the workers’ revolution was deliberately destroyed by Social Democracy
in the name of bourgeois “democracy.” The bourgeois order was only saved by the Coalition
Government from 1918 to 1920 of Austrian Social Democracy and the bourgeois parties, with
Bauer as Foreign Minister and Deutsch as Minister for War. This is the background which lies
behind the victory of Fascism.*
Austrian Social Democracy argued at the time in defence of its policy that, although the
proletarian revolution was certainly and easily possible in Austria in 1918-19, it could not hope
to maintain itself in so small, dependent and isolated a state, in the face of the forces of
imperialism. Yet in fact the Soviet Republic was achieved in Hungary and Bavaria; the drive was
strong throughout Germany and Italy. Had Soviet Austria stood in with Soviet Hungary and
Bavaria, an unshakable power could have been built up in Central Europe; the whole history of
post-war Europe would have been different. Instead, Austrian Social Democracy abandoned
Soviet Hungary to its fate, and then, when the White Terror raged in Hungary, pointed to it to
prove the fate from which it claimed to have saved the Austrian workers. To-day the event has
proved that the Austrian workers were not saved from White Terror; they were only robbed of
the possibility of victory when it was in their grasp
>>2704462can someone explain why women hate cosplay so much when they love trying on clothes and outfits?
>>2706508>Correct, the Nazis only arrested a few hundred Social Democrats during their entire existence. Virtually no force was used against the SPD at all. They willingly and openly collaborated with the Nazis in order to avoid repressionsThis is a clear contradiction. If they were aiming the avoid repression then clearly the Nazis were applying force to them. If I point a gun at you and say to give me your wallet, it doesn't stop being the application of force just because you cooperate to avoid getting shot.
>This is not what happened in AustriaYes it is lmao. They supported the fascists and then they opposed them, in other words they vacillated depending on the prevailing conditions.
>>2706511I guess it means you are really into fiction like to an abnormal level
>>2706513
>Yes it is lmao. They supported the fascists and then they opposed them, in other words they vacillated depending on the prevailing conditions.Are you deliberately ignoring all of the history between 1918 and 1934 or are you just stupid?
>This is a clear contradiction. If they were aiming the avoid repression then clearly the Nazis were applying force to them. If I point a gun at you and say to give me your wallet, it doesn't stop being the application of force just because you cooperate to avoid getting shot.The Communists were repressed simply for being Communists, Social Democrats would be repressed only if they actively opposed Nazi power. The fact that only a few hundred Social Democrats were ever arrested by the Nazis is decisive evidence that they did not, by and large, oppose Nazi power.
The rank and file members of the SPD simply went back to work, answered their draft notices and waged a genocidal war against the USSR.
>>2706519Well your right fuck the spd also they where on board with nato and shit.
But i dont think its always a bad idea to have a coalition.
And i dont think the spd doing something 80 years means all socdems are bad today.
>>2706519>Are you deliberately ignoring all of the history between 1918 and 1934 or are you just stupid?No, I'm not disputing that the conditions during that period were such that the waffling tendencies of social democracy brought it closer to reaction. I'm simply saying that these tendencies were suppressed and others brought to the forefront when conditions changed. Hence, social democracy is best described as unreliable and vacillating rather than a force in favour of fascism everywhere and always.
>The fact that only a few hundred Social Democrats were ever arrested by the Nazis is decisive evidence that they did not, by and large, oppose Nazi power.The same can be said about their relationship to communist power in the GDR. My point is simply that if you're going to dismiss their alliance with the communists because it was coerced then you can't ignore the fact that it was also coerced by the Nazis.
Also you keep posting Dutte, but you understand that he supported the united front after 1933 along with the rest of the Comintern right?
>>2706524I guess the question is "are social democrats boosting the fascist tendencies in north america right now?"
And the answer is no.
If anyone is besides the other fascoids its liberal democrats doing that.
>>2706526>I guess the question is "are social democrats boosting the fascist tendencies in north america right now?"Careful Anon you sound like you're dangerously close to producing an analysis based on concrete existing conditions. We don't do that here, instead we just keep repeating a line that communists only ever actually adhered to for like 5 years, while completely ignoring the analyses that produced it in the first place.
>>2706487>confusing mao zedong thought with maosim (Gonzalism)ruh roh
>>2706532i've never seen that brainletjak before
>>2706320wish this useless faggot at least the embraced california chad meme he's going for but he's always *such* prim&proper demonrat
>>2706524I am saying that the United Front was objectively a failed experiment by the Comintern, and history has proven that Social Democracy is actually the foremost opponent to the rise of a real, militant working class.
Dutt was a Democratic Centralist who adhered to his party's decisions regarding policy, even if he knew it was wrong. He continued to write, and continued to analyze the true class characteristics of Social Democracy. As you can see here, he is not a fan of it, and recognizes that it has been used as a tool against the British working class ever since it entered bourgeois government.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/dutt/articles/1958/dutt-labour-party.pdfSocial Democracy is objectively petty bourgeois reformism, while fascism is petty bourgeois revolutionism. The Dmitrov was wrong and Dutt was correct.
>>2706526The answer is absolutely yes. The DSSA explicitly exists to destroy the American left, read about Michael Harrington and you will understand the purpose of the DSA.
>>2706542>I am saying that the United Front was objectively a failed experiment by the CominternMaybe, but the fact that it existed at all really undermines the assertion that it social democrats always side with fascists, that it is always a force in favour of fascism. If this were the case then the united front couldn't ever have been established.
>history has proven that Social Democracy is actually the foremost opponent to the rise of a real, militant working classI don't necessarily disagree, but that doesn't make them fascists unless you unironically consider anybody who isn't a communist (or more likely, a communist who agrees with you specifically) to be fascist. Fascists suppress worker militancy by killing them whereas social democrats do so by granting them concessions. I feel like the implications of this difference for communist strategy and organizing should be clear.
>>2706545I never said social democrats are fascists, I said that Social Demcorats side with fascists in conflict with Communists. Their societal role is inherently anti-Communist, because Communism is a complete rejection of the class collaboration and non-violent reformism that undergird Social Democracy.
Social Democracy is the anti-Communism in times of peace, fascism is the anti-communism in times of crisis.
>>2706562>Social Democracy is the anti-Communism in times of peace, fascism is the anti-communism in times of crisis.Liberals… Conservatives…. are wiping the sweat off their brows. They got away with it again….
>>2706511who cares. treat people like individuals and you'll find someone into your random hobbies
>noooooo i'm a communist that's individualismit's retarded to collectivize people when you talk to them individually. normal people don't do this. sorry.
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