/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2851845
Survivors will envy the dead.

>>2843550
have new water yet?

>>2851845
won't really be communism without the production forces but more or less

>>2851850

Probably not, we get used to shit pretty fast

>>2851847
bro

Neocon have become so warped by the "culture war" that they think caring about climate change automatically makes you a dreaded Democrat. It's honestly astounding how utterly retarded they are. Like what will it take for them to care about climate change?

https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/2071272250968359384

>>2854163
If right wing slime were capable of genuine introspection then we wouldn't be here

>>2854197
tbf some retards here want to be ironic anti-Environmentalists

>>2853385
>have new water yet?
yeah, it finally started to rain, and my, is it a lot of water.
hope other anons aren't suffering from any dry spells of water :)

I genuinely don't understand American republicans who refuse to even acknowledge climate change. This shit has reached the Global North, it's affecting people's daily lives in objectively measurable ways and yet these retards still refuse to accept it. This first comic was drawn in May.

>>2854573

that's nice. Whenever it rains after a long drought the air smells so fucking good

>is it a lot of water.
For every degree of warming the air can hold ~7% more water, so that will translate in both longer droughts and heavier rainfall when it rains, this is bad news for soil in general as dry soil needs water for a sustained periods to absorb it and to reactivate microbial activity, when it get's real dry water will just run over it. My point is, if you ever have some terrain you need to study the water flow and slow it down as much as possible.

>>2857101
They're just bottom of the barrel losers who legitimately deserve to be thrown in a pit of fire

Stratospheric Aerosol Injection. How many times do I have to say this? The solution to Global Warming already exists. You just spray 1 million tons of SO2 into the stratosphere every year at the cost of $50 billion and you reverse the 1.5 - 2 degrees C warming since pre-industrial times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_aerosol_injection

https://makesunsets.com/

https://stardustsrt.com/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/12/11/1129239/solar-geoengineering-startups-are-getting-serious/

>>2857155 (me)
*10 million tons of SO2. Still a small amount compared to the 37,000 million tons of CO2 we release every year.

By the way, I was wrong about $50 billion, turns out its much less, about $10-20 billion per year

>>2857155
>>2857159
wouldn't it be much safer to stimulate a volcano somewhere relatively uninhabited than this risky experiment?

>>2857160
No because first of all, volcanos release a ton of pollution apart from merely SO2 that harm the local environment. Also volcanos only release a fraction of the SO2 into the stratosphere, while the majority remains in the troposphere.

SO2 based cooling works best when its released in the stratosphere because that results in even spread worldwide, much less atmospheric reactions, and much less acid rain. Also most importantly, SO2 released in the stratosphere lasts 1-2 years before falling down, while tropospheric SO2 washes away in days.

Btw SO2 is just one candidate because its so cheap and easy, you can also use calcite, or coated silica particles which have even less side effects.

And if you're wondering about the side effects of SO2, the answer is that 10 million tons of SO2 per year evenly spread worldwide is just 20% of annual SO2 emissions, and because its so spread out, it practically results in no acid rain. It only has a slight effect on ozone levels.


But more importantly you need to realize the massive amounts of human lives and money saved from "fixing" global warming. Just for air-conditioning alone, it's estimated that reducing global temps by 1.5C will save $20-$40 billion in AC electricity usage, and that number saved will increase as the third world increasingly uses more AC.

Also the decreased disaster frequency and intensity will save trillions of dollars. And millions of human lives will be saved. There is also the psychological benefit of cooler temps in summer which will improve human mood and productivity.

If SO2 is still a concern (and it shouldn't be) then you can simply spend a bit more and use calcite or coated amorphous silica instead.

There is literally no reason not to do this already, I suspect some very hot Global South country like India or Indonesia will eventually do this on its own if global warming isn't stopped quickly enough. Maybe China will take it up as well. But there are also Western startups that are planning to do this, and there's an increasing
push among the scientific community to start doing geoengineering as soon as possible.

>>2857177
>It only has a slight effect on ozone levels.
Like? Is there a danger that it destroys ozone?

>>2857101
Why the fuck do hate Al Gore so much? Ever since I was a teenager, I've seen Republicans and lolberts push this narrative that he either wants to take over the world and make life less fun or that he's somehow profiting from climate change.

>>2857155
Nah man its over

>>2857282
It's hard to overstate just how much many American Gen Xers disliked him because of his wife's role in the PMRC. To a lot of people, he came across as a no-fun authoritarian.

it was really worth developing the productive forces for this

>>2724691
Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it was historically progressive.

>>2857282
Al Gore wanted to make us drive electric cars which is bad for oil companies.

one easy solution to all of this…

>>2851847
Honestly it might. At least in South Asia the heat has become genuinely oppressive in ways we've never seen before. I think it's only a single extreme heat wave kills tens of thousands of people, if not more. At that point I think the governments will have no choice but to take the crisis seriously and introduce some form of state-level intervention and at the same remove the old feudal and cooperate entities.

>>2857155
It seems the most likely option

>Summary: Hacking the atmosphere: Geoengineering gets a reality check
Solar geoengineering — the idea of reflecting sunlight back into space to counteract global warming — is moving from computer modelling into serious practical engineering research. Inspired by the cooling effect of volcanic eruptions, the concept involves releasing reflective aerosols into the stratosphere, but numerous technical obstacles remain unsolved.
>The University of Chicago's Climate Systems Engineering Initiative (CSEi), launched in 2024 under veteran researcher David Keith, is at the centre of this shift. Researchers there are working on multiple fronts: designing novel high-altitude aircraft capable of reaching the stratosphere over the tropics, developing the right aerosol chemistry and dispersal mechanisms, and building satellite and balloon-based monitoring infrastructure. A concept plane developed with aeronautical engineer John Langford features an oversized wingspan and detachable payload tank; a fleet of 270 could disperse enough material to reduce global temperatures by roughly 0.26°C.
>The nonprofit Reflective has mapped the remaining unknowns in a public database, identifying six engineering obstacles — from retrofitting existing aircraft for polar deployments to preventing a looming gap in stratospheric satellite coverage. A 2024 analysis estimated that a polar-focused initial programme capable of 2°C regional cooling by 2040 could require a decade of work and $35 billion.
>Critics warn that advancing practical engineering normalises a dangerous idea, risks undermining emissions reduction efforts, and cannot be deployed equitably — with wealthy actors inevitably shaping who benefits and who suffers. Governance researchers argue this work warrants the same ethical oversight as outdoor experiments.
>Keith and colleagues counter that withholding research into a technology that could prevent mass suffering sets an unacceptably high bar, and that open scientific debate is the best safeguard. Keith now states publicly that he would vote in favour of early, carefully monitored deployment if given the choice.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2026/06/17/1138743/hacking-atmosphere-geoengineering-reality-check/

fucked

In my grandmother's home village it used to snow every single winter. Then little by little it lessened and by the 2000s it stopped completely. After that winters were just cold and chilly. I went back there a few months ago and it was genuinely hot. I was sweating the whole time. I'd been there so many times growing up and this just felt wrong. It wasn't normal. Everyone there knew it wasn't natural.

Well forests are burning at really fast rates in the area here again, joyous times. Everything is dry as a mf already.

>Inb4 just use AC to stop the forest fire

Everything is fucked fucked FUCKED

>>2859857
I'm old enough to have lived through many whit Christmases, that idea is laughable now.

>>2732777
that already happens and it has forever

>>2860018
What region are you from?

>>2860208
Nice try cia

anyway pyrenees mountain range

>>2857155
Still doesn't solve ocean acidification

>>2860291
Snowfall has stopped that far north?

>>2860407
just add a bunch of Drano, obviously!

>>2860416
We will get there when we get there

>>2860438
Let's see what happens

>>2860416
Stupid me, that's not what I meant, that's where I live now but I grew up in the benelux where it hardly snows anymore as well, that said mountain snow is disappearing as well here.

so the end of history is mad max?

>>2827651
yeah its increasingly looking like the dead future is happening.

Stop dooming so much. Even without a revolution technological progress is doing leap and bounds and then it's a matter of some policy changes. Plant based ethanol production will basically go away in the next decades with EV adoption, meanwhile artificial meat you can make from compost or poop will become cheaper and mostly better than the real thing. That alone will liberate a lot of land area, food won't be an issue.

Renewables are already on a quasi exponential curve and down the line offer possibilities of using energy intensive carbon capture tech. The development of third world countries from that cheap energy will allow more people to be educated and further increase our intellectual and engineering output to tackle all those problems.

The mode of production we are in is not very adapted to the challenges we have to face to say the least but some people are trying to make the best of it to offer humanity some useful tools and they are doing a good job.

>>2862772
There are two moronic extremes, the "we're all headed toward death/a Mad Max world" and the "nothing's going to happen" camp.

I have some sympathy for the former because I'm from a region that's been hit hard by climate change. I understand where that feeling comes from. but I do agree with you that so much pointless death and suffering could be avoided if we adapted to the changing conditions.

The problem is that with the exception of China, very few governments have the political will to make those changes. They're content with maintaining the current system, at least until some major disaster comes along and ends up killing a lot of people.

>>2862772
>artifical meat
that…that industry is currently failing…

>>2863173
The problem is that it's currently not hype enough for venture capital and getting road blocks from governments getting lobbied by the cattle industry. It needs a lot of investment and research particularly to produce big steel tanks and make it economical even though the technology has already been worked out which is why it's still at least a decade away. So for now it's a rich consumer fad and niche product that's only allowed in a handful of country which means the market won't grow just yet.

>>2863179
which is a problematic issue because Idk if we do have a decade. Also even if we do, it might take longer than a decade. And it would also take time to maximize production in a way that replaces meat.
Theres also the other issue where the cattle industry pressure politicians to fund different alt solutions. Not exactly a great time we live in

>Lake Powell reaching critically low elevation levels, nearing 'dead power pool,' experts say
give me alfalfa or give me death