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/leftypol/'s most ignored general is back

Earth is now heating up twice as fast as in previous decades: Study
https://ground.news/article/earth-is-now-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-in-previous-decades-study_63acf6

Humanity heating planet faster than ever before, study finds
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/mar/06/humanity-heating-planet-faster-than-ever-before-study-finds

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, at much higher levels than healthy tissues, study reveals
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/02/260225001250.htm


Was War with Iran Sparked by Water?
https://erickeyser.substack.com/p/was-war-with-iran-sparked-by-water?r=1r05cx&triedRedirect=true&_src_ref=old.reddit.com

The Iran War Is Also a Climate War
https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/iran-war-climate-change/

Microplastics found in 90% of prostate cancer tumors, study reveals The Billionaire Heist: Why the extraction of our 'labor energy' is leading us toward a global crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iri_xg4rj_k
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>>2748519
The point is that no transition will happen in a big part of the world if nuclear power generation isn't successful. Attacking nuclear makes no sense.
Service reliability is extremely important.
Even in the field as frivolous as website development, 99.9% uptime is where things start to become acceptable. You don't have a functioning website if it can just stop working for a week because there are clouds overhead. Electricity is infinitely more important than that. Heating is even more so.

>>2748479
>Countries in the global south already use backup gas generators because grid failures
reason why gas giants (like iberdrola) were pushing so heavily for transition to renewables in latam and spain instead of nuclear power was precisely because of this. renewables were a means to further enroach gas dependency

>>2748519
betteries become more and more shit as the load increases,so I would be surprised

it really sounds like nuclear and non nuclear are dead ends.
Are we doomed?

>>2749573
>it really sounds like nuclear and non nuclear are dead ends
>all energy sources are dead ends
Are you stupid?

>>2749589
well what else is there besides battery wind power, solar and nuclear.
Give me something that is feasiable in the next 20-30 years….

>>2749604
You are stupid

>>2749609
>no argument
okay we are doomed

>>2749610
You are doomed


>>2749617
haha benis :DDDDD

go into this thread
look inside
nuclear
-takes too long
-takes too long even in china
-requires a lot of funding that isnt easy to have
-would only become fast produced if current capitalist management didnt exist (which uh good luck getting rid of that in the short to mid term)
-smrs are a meme

renewables (solar, etc)
-inefficent
-requires oil to create
-baseload issues
-will have difficulty working in some environments
-etc etc

yeah pretty bleak

>>2724761
by the time they die it will be because they no longer have wealth protecting them. when society becomes unsustainable, that includes the classes. we're abolishing class because we're abolishing life altogether.

>>2749968
>look inside
No you didn’t
>>2752199
Doomers truly are strange masochists

>>2749968

The solution is degrowth. Everyone, outside of some isolated pre-contact tribes, will have to take a hit in standard of living. No electricity at night. No Instapots. No wifi. Etc. Then we can heal the world.

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>>2732098
What do you think about Thorium though?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMSR-LF1
I know it's not as world saving as the libertarian think tanks make it out to be, but is it at least more sustainable than uranium plants?

>>2752242
You want to kill everyone through historical regression and extreme vulnerability to climate change. Fuck off.

>>2752258
Plenty of progressive changes in modern history were bad.

>>2752242
retard
>>2752354
we have the technology to save the earth without significant impacts on quality of life, we ought to use it rather than moralize about some nonsensical anarcho-primitivist dystopia

>>2752209
>No you didn’t
a lot of the thread is nuclear take too long. And a lot of the other is renewable bad. And coping that if we somehow change the socio economic system nuclear gets built faster.
Wtf are you talking about anon

>>2748479
>The panels are useless half a year.
>useless
do retards think "cloudy" means "no photons"? solar eclipses and night time are when solar panels are useless. a cloudy day they still pick up energy.

>>2752402
>And a lot of the other is renewable bad
Long term pollution due to manufacturing is worse than nuclear power plants, yes. It’s still better than fossil fuels, and can still help keep the lights on when we do an energy transition to a nuclear based grid.
>And coping that if we somehow change the socio economic system nuclear gets built faster.
I’m mean, is it really a cope though when one consider all the times work is either done poorly or doesn’t even get done at all thanks to the failures of monetary reward systems? Slaves and imprisoned forced labor typically are worse performers than more unshackled individuals. Is the wage slave really all that different?

>>2752414
>Slaves and imprisoned forced labor typically are worse performers than more unshackled individuals. Is the wage slave really all that different?

thats not what im calling cope. What im calling cope is somehow changing the socio economic system before climate change goes critical.
Im really cynical at this point of the potential success of socialist revolutions before climate change goes critical. We dont have a lot of time (its gonna get real bad in 20 years)
Theres also a big chance its just gonna be fascism in the west or other countries (japan). Or just flat out warlordism.

> and can still help keep the lights on when we do an energy transition to a nuclear based grid.


True but im seeing some people point out that renewables wont be enough. That due to its inefficiences, use of oil and etc, it wont be enough for the transition to a nuclear based grid. And that due to capitalist management we are too focused on renewables instead of investing a lot in nuclear. So the transition to nuclear would be too slow.
Can you present me some hopium on this. I really need it

>>2752432
>thats not what im calling cope. What im calling cope is somehow changing the socio economic system before climate change goes critical.
Don’t be a revolutionary defeatist. You won’t get anywhere with that mindset.
>Theres also a big chance its just gonna be fascism in the west or other countries
Already happened
>True but I'm seeing some people point out that renewables wont be enough
It won’t be, but it will be good enough for an energy transition
>That due to its inefficiences, use of oil and etc, it wont be enough for the transition to a nuclear based grid
No one is saying that. It’s not good by itself indefinitely. It is good for a brief amount of time.
>Can you present me some hopium on this. I really need it
Here’s some hopium: we’re not dead yet. You don’t need to stress about the worst possibility just yet. We’ll know if we’re fucked or not when we get there. Until then, focus on making sure we have a chance in the first place to improve our situations. That is the most important thing we can do right now. No pitying yourself when you haven’t even done anything yet.

>>2752465
>Until then, focus on making sure we have a chance in the first place to improve our situations. That is the most important thing we can do right now. No pitying yourself when you haven’t even done anything yet.
maybe you are right. I mean the other option is just pointless doomerism aka I guess I will just die.

>>2752471
>aka I guess I will just die.
Basically that

ok what do i need to learn. fuck. three sisters? degrowth? water production systems?

>>2752705
>three sisters
Maybe, but I would suggest looking into indoor agriculture
>degrowth
Understanding how capital forces society to chase increasingly unrealistic goals in pursuit of infinite growth would be good
>water production systems?
Including desalination, absolutely.

>>2752713
uhh any resources, youtubers etc? can just give me a general pointer.

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More solar energy falls on the Earth in a day than global civilization uses in a year but we couldn't figure it out because too many people wanted to be streamers instead of STEMlords. Oh well maybe the Mongols can come back.

since it's all over shouldn't we just be aiming to survive instead?

>>2752971
Communism is when humanity's struggle for life truly begins.

>>2752736
I don’t think you’ll need too much of anything that will be hard to find. At least not in terms of the individual concepts.
For degrowth, the video provided is pretty good at explaining the concept. I would suggest looking anything related to enshittification, it’s very related to the subject. And generally, you’ll find plenty of the subject, but I would advise being cautious about what information you find. It’s been quite misconstrued by people invested in the current mode of production.

As for everything else, you’ll find the resources in a similar manner. Plenty of educational resources online. Like these two links:
https://www.ars.usda.gov/oc/utm/vertical-farming-no-longer-a-futuristic-concept/

https://www.usgs.gov/water-science-school/science/desalination#overview

As for putting these concepts together, that’s a bit more difficult. I’m going to have to think that introduction over for a bit.

>>2753267
>>2752736
Alright. Read this article:
https://nextcity.org/urbanist-news/third-place-mall-climate-shelter
And then go research Paolo Soleri, the inner workings of underground shelters, and habitation in space. That should give you gist of enclosed habitation.
Here’s a bonus link for fun:
https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacecolony.php

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people in this region of the usa
are ya ready to be a climate refugee

>>2748479
uygha, invent electrical wires already.

And if you're talking "Chicago" north, watch vidrel

it turns into a climate change anti-treatlerism video

>>2752762
>pic
it takes 10 calories of plant matter to raise 1 calorie of beef on average
>More solar energy falls on the Earth in a day than global civilization uses in a year but we couldn't figure it out because too many people wanted to be streamers instead of STEMlords.
truke

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Artic sea ice new level low

>>2752762
While it's true that Earth receives far more (unused) solar energy in a day than humanity uses in a year, you suggested also that this gap exists because people chose nontechnical paths. I disagree. The real barriers are infrastructure, storage, economics, and policy rather than a lack of STEM talent. One might argue we should use solar energy immediately instead of storing it, which aligns with real strategies like demand shifting and addressing the duck curve. However, because of intermittency and the mismatch between when energy is produced and when it is needed, storage and backup systems are still necessary. The most effective approach combines real time energy use, smarter demand timing, storage, and a mix of energy sources rather than relying on a single solution.

>>2757465
Arent batteries a problem? Can they be reused? Otherwise we will run out of them. We need renewable batteries or some shit

>>2757842
i think you can technically make a "renewable" battery but like even normal ones arent good enough right now i think so idk

>>2757842
batteries are cool but to me distribution, not storage, is key. if electricity is treated like blood, which is made to circulate, rather than clot, it will be used right away and won't need to be stored. just-in-time production of electricity basically. Silvio Giselle had similar ideas about money

>>2758060
>just-in-time production of electricity
isn't the whole problem that you can't do that ? I mean sure you can keep it low and then start up another gaz powerplant,but solar and wind aren't on you to open them up unless you're already making a surplus

>>2757842
you can reuse batteries up to thousands of times, it's (mostly) a solved problem, the problem is you keep 80% of the battery's efficiency when recycled, so you have to add an additional 20% of the main element (lithium, or potentially something else)

Mr. Beast will solve the climate


We've likely got a fat el niño incoming this year folkx

https://chrisgloninger.substack.com/p/something-is-brewing-in-the-pacific

>What a super El Niño does, when it arrives on top of a baseline that has shifted this much this fast, is pile the natural variability on top of the anthropogenic forcing in a way that pushes the climate system into territory that has no close analog anywhere in the observational record. The 1997 event occurred when the planet was roughly 0.6°C above preindustrial. The 2015 event occurred around 1.0°C. If we get the event the models are forecasting, it will occur at somewhere between 1.4 and 1.5°C of warming. We are not looking at 1997 plus a little more heat. We are looking at a fundamentally different starting point, with the same amount of additional energy being dumped out of the Pacific into an atmosphere that has already been primed by three decades of accelerating fossil fuel emissions.


>Let me put some concrete numbers around what we should expect, because abstractions about degrees Celsius tend to glaze people’s eyes over, and this is going to affect food supplies, insurance markets, and public health in ways that will be impossible to ignore by December.


>The 1997 super El Niño caused an estimated five trillion dollars in global damage, according to subsequent economic analyses, including crop losses in Southeast Asia and Australia, catastrophic flooding along the west coast of South America, severe drought and wildfire activity in Indonesia and the Amazon, coral bleaching across the Pacific, and a spike in vector-borne disease in several parts of the tropics. That figure is in late-1990s dollars, against a global economy less than a third the size of today’s. The modern equivalent would be significantly larger even before you factor in the additional warming that has occurred since.

>>2788301
>fat el nino
>boe is estimated as a possibility this year
…..OH NO

>>2788301
But I don't want to


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