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Fuck this guy. I’m tired of seeing liberals and even “principled” leftists like Jacobin Mag prop him up as the greatest thing to happen to American leftism, like he’s sone kind of modern-Day William Z Foster.

In reality, Mamdani is a total fraud. He’s pandered to Zionists even before taking office. Then after taking office he’s sucked up to Chabad-Lubavitcher which is a satanic racist Jewish supremacist org with ties to the Russian mafia and Zionist entity. Why? He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa. I guess he thinks kosher feelings outweigh Palestinian lives. He hasn’t done anything he’s promised in making NYC a cheaper and easier place to live. And yet delusional leftists still love and support him.

If Mamdani was truly principled he’d make it illegal to be a Zio in NYC. Semd police to monitor all synagogues for promoting Zionism. Track donations to the IOF from Jewish orgs. Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity and all companies that do business with the Zionist entity. Get ICE to deport anyone with Zionist entity citizenship ( I hear there are a lot of them in Brooklyn and Queens). Ban AIPAC and all other pro-Zionist groups. Shut down businesses like Eichler’s which routinely sell Zionist products.

Mamdani ran on the basis of defying the Zionist Lobby so he needs to keep his promises.
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>>2753373
No one cares about your antisemitism delusions.

I vote for socdems and "leftists" who nonetheless aid Israel and NATO in deeds, for my own benefit because the alternatives are literal fascists. I don't feel the need to whitewash them though, saying they are things they are not.The thing I don't get about Zohran is why you can't just admit to vote from him for the treats. I do, al the bloody time. And I still have to hear about your NYC drama from Europe like I should care who rules future Ancapistan.

USAnos just bring the culture war to everything. They pick a side and must defend it. Buddy it's not up to you that Zohran wins. Certainly not up to white knighting him on the internet, at least. So why bother? Cast your vote, get the bag and stfu. But no, all must uphold the kayfabe.

>>2753366
>>2753487
>Who cares how many Palestinians have to be sacrificed
>It’s not about “Palestinian lives”

Thank you for proving that you're psychopaths.

>>2754054
That doesn't answer my question at all. Why do you believe a sudden collapse of Israel would be the way to ensure Palestinian freedom?

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>>2754161
>>Why do you believe a sudden collapse of Israel would be the way to ensure Palestinian freedom?

Semantics are for those who want to debate the arrangements of colonialism, nobody behind the juche tag represents such a personality. The only horizon that matters is the collapse of the Anglo‑settler colonial project, everything else is rearrangement of the current order. So let’s be clear, if you call yourself a leftist and stand with Zionism, you are not a leftist. You are a liberal who has mistaken your attachment to a settler state for principle. There is no “anti‑Zionist” wing of the left; the left is anti‑Zionist, and anyone who isn’t is an enemy to be isolated, swept aside, or crushed. It really is that simple.

>>2754184
vacuous nonresponse, natlib is completely bankrupt post-ww2 lol

If NATO is keeping Israel and Zionism because they need it to exert power in the region… How does that measure against national liberation? Feels like engaging with the facade and not the root of the problem which is imperialism.

Say, if you unfurl the circumstances of dismantling Zionism. A situation in which the USA/NATO must lose a(n existential) fight to keep it going at all costs and then NATO economies go to the shitter along the petrodollar. As well as a wave of conflict in which the compradors will probably be ousted and even the colonial inherited borders redefined. And probably a worse global crisis over the future of gulf hidrocarbons as now….

How many "pro-Palestine" people, or states, are on board with those terms? I bet only a tiny fraction of those moved by the genocide or cold war opportunism would support the actual terms of Palestinian liberation. Certainly no-fucking-body in NATO that's for sure.

>>2754270 (me)
Like, Israel and by extension Zionism is always going to have the full backing of NATO. Internally, they have already gotten away with exterminating the resistance. They are about to literally pass the law that would enable Israel to start mass executing what should be considered, at the very least, prisoners of war.

There is no anti-capitalist power in this cold war, nobody from outside is going to aim straight at the heart of US hegemony. And from inside, well you see what happens within Palestine. If it's the support of NATO citizens what Palestinian activists seek, to undermine Israel, then maybe the framing should be political and honest about the implications.

Instead of a kind of wishy washy humanism, hoping to do the PR equivalent of BDS. Because BDS and all the activism already failed to impair, at all, the genocide in Gaza, the soon to be annexation of the west bank and probably the mass settling of both, alongside southern Lebanon. Feelings and vibes have been no match for the PR industry. Besides producing oh-so-damning polls.

>>2754256
Natlib pretty much only emerged post-Dien Bien Phu

>>2754184
How would Israel collapsing benefit the Palestinians when all it would do is lead to a wave of chaos?

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>>2754256
>>2754564

This is you. Lol, and if you're an actual leftist I find it funny you are pushed into the corner with your opinions. You'd get beat, and shunned being a pro-zionist leftist in real life. Looks like we won the little leftist civil war against ilk like you. Most people are convinced of our truth, and will militantly defend it.

>>2754676
Instead of fedjacketing, how about responding to the argument?

>>2754564
Because the current status quo is about them being killed en masse, so actually stopping the government approved genocide will obviously improve their lives, even in the worst scenario
That's like asking why would it benefit animals currently getting slaughtered if you blew up the factory ?

>>2754712

I don't hold honest discussions with people who are Zionist, I either look to dishonestly denounce them or brainwash them. Inb4 "IM NOT ZIONIST", well if you aint anti-zionist, i got news for ya……

>>2754743
And what would be the ultimate result if this collapse? Mass chaos? Civil war? More Palestinians would be mass-slaughtered right off the bat.

>>2754750

The most obvious german jew.

>>2754768
Can you answer me?

>>2754750
The butchering eventually stops instead of continuing till it's finished? You dumb or what?

>>2755141
That assumes the Israelis would lose.

>>2754750
So true. The Security of the Jewish State = the Security of the Arab Israelis. Anyone who isn't speaking out of western privilege understands that Israel is the greatest country in the Middle East. Am Yisrael Chai.

>>2754184
Based Glownonymous.

Amplify more Palestinian voices against Zohran the Zionist snake.

>>2748359
NYC mayoral candidates even debated it.

>>2752854
Desire for collapse only comes once people feel powerless to change the situation. In this case, no one can do anything about Israel except bullshit protests and boycotts, so they put all their faith in a collapse scenario. They aren't serious.

>>2755280
Okay, and how does Mamdani not liking this woman have anything to do with city policy in NYC?

>>2748359
You don't need a cop to *prevent* a harmful practice. You just put a big ass penalty with minimum prison times and potentially child abuse charges. And the next time an infant catches Herpes or whatever you throw the books at the mohel, the synagogue and the parents and set an example.

I mean, you don't put a cop in every catholic church to prevent the priests from diddling children either.

>>2755280
Who cares? I want free buses and free childcare.

>>2755779
>my personal gluttony overrides literal genocide and colonialism

>>2752553
Most Palestine activism is merely a symbolic crusade (vid related).

The people who voted for Mamdani are now coping by claiming it was never about his actual policies but merely exposing the Israel lobby as a paper tiger. Very noticeable change of goalposts. They know he can’t do shit and won’t do shit.

>>2755899
A city mayor has no effect on US foreign policy. You should be judging Zohran by the things he can change, not by the things he can't.

>>2756649
you are aipac

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Really his wife is the based one
>but she was anti assad
Even his army wasnt pro assad becaude at the ned they didnt bother to fight for him

>>2756654
What makes you think so?

>>2746538

On the contrary, judging him on anti-zionism specifically, while he is still left of center on that issue anyway, is peak idpol.

>>2746797

this

If modern socialists were truly principled, they would have cancelled Karl "Jewish nigger" Marx for a million reasons.

i am smart

>zfag
>purity spiraling
absolutely hilarious. go back to reddit.com

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>>2746769
Since long before you were born, idealist.


>>2746701
God damn you are retarded

>>2746797
Drop dead please 🖕

>>2756700
you are epstein

Mamdani just saved a Palestinian activist from being clout martyred by a Jew supremacist, retard.

>Be American
>The TV just told me this guy is good
>I think he is good
<Someone asks me why
>I just repeat what the TV said
>They say something I don't understand because it isn't on TV
>Are they stoopid?

>>2756663
>Really his wife is the based one
Syrian revolutionaries went to work as deep cover CIA (Covert Islamists in Action) operatives to get weapons 🔫 but also to keep the Israelis off their backs. May Allah bless the tongue and fingers of anons who share this truth.

>>2757889
Mamdani literally jumped in front of the exploding shrapnel to save this man and people still call him zionist

>>2755946
>The people who voted for Mamdani are now coping by claiming it was never about his actual policies
idk i see interviewers with actual new yorkers and they're pissed at him for cucking out to the NYPD mostly. naturally americans don't care about foreign policy

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>>2757889
>Mamdani just saved a Palestinian activist
<look inside
>the FBI and NYPD foiled this plot . i did nothing but i will use my platform to thank the FBI and NYPD and take a time to denounce violent political extremism from all sides

>>2758188
Real communists would rather die than work with the cops and feds.

>>2755946
>The people who voted for Mamdani are now coping by claiming it was never about his actual policies but merely exposing the Israel lobby as a paper tiger. Very noticeable change of goalposts. They know he can’t do shit and won’t do shit.
This is indicative that they voted not because of any particular platform but because they followed a trend in the culture war. They voted for "their side" and perceive criticism of Ziohran as a threat to "their side" in a culture war spat. It just so happens that "their side" is PR run by the DNC.

>>2753366
Decolonization largely failed because it was waged along lines of ethnic nationalism, rather than class.



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