/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Allah won.

Reminder that is it only thanks to the devotion of Iranians to the 12th Imam that resistance is possible

fizzled

>>2754471
Almost like Marxism is dogshit at motivating people in the 21st century

>>2754474
he's looking so old

>>2754473
Motivating to do what? Get killed and then retaliate?

>>2754471
>>2754473
Get bent arabpol

>>2754483
Marxists only know how to write essays, tail social democrarts, or tail anarchists, those are the three paths

>>2754482
Kill a Marxist and all he’ll do is write an essay

>>2754484
>or tail anarchists
examples of this? it would be based if true but i dont think it is

>>2754487
The GCPR was basically a Black Bloc riot that went on for a year

>>2754488
lmao never thought about it in that way

>>2754480
>>2754474
Bro looks like eddie

>>2754485
>>2754484
Show proof of your claims and your accomplishments or get out

>>2754488
by tailing anarchists I thought you meant they were doing stuff like this >>2754486
also werent black blocs invented by marxists?

>>2754473
Top one demotivation campaign in site history

>>2754492
It’s called ruthless critique, Marx was not a Marxist for this reason

>>2754496
Marxists should be demotivated, they ruined scientific socialism

>>2754484
What is China doing then?

>>2754499
Oriental despotism exactly like the last 5,000 years of its history

fizzlecells on suicide watch.

>>2754497
He was, you're misinterpreting the quote when he said that he was just cringing at french euro communists who where bastardizing his work.

>>2754500
>marxists dont do shit

>what about the biggest marxist project of all time anon, china

>n-n-nooo that doesnt count


goalpost shifter zzz

>>2754503
China is not now, nor has it ever been capitalist or socialist

>>2754497
So you have no actual proof and you just purposely misinterpred things Marx said?

>>2754504
I can see you're not worth talking too, at all.

>>2754473
Was it "marxism" that motivated people into the communist movement during the 19th century? The way I see it the objective of Marx's theoretical work was to ground and orient on a scientific base a movement that people were already motivated into joining. Since this movement was killed I think many leftists don't realize "marxism" isn't exactly useful at rebuilding it because it was never "designed" to do that.

rare more-perfect-union win. this is founded by faiz shakir, bernie sander's longstanding senior adviser. sometimes they shit on China with stupid gaslight.

⚡️⭕️ Iran's "Press TV" channel quoted a high-ranking Iranian political-security official:

Iran is the one that will end the war at the time it decides

Iran will end the war if the conditions it sets are met and will not allow Trump to determine the end of the war

The United States has submitted through multiple diplomatic channels a request to negotiate with Iran

Iran has evaluated these proposals exactly as it did in the two previous times and considers them a trick to escalate tension

It has been proven in the past two times that America did not have a real intention to negotiate, but rather launched military attacks against Iran

Iran rejected the US proposal that came through one of the friendly mediators in the region

Iran confirmed that it is ready to continue defending and directing severe blows to the enemy

Iran will end the war if the conditions it sets are met and will not allow Trump to determine the end of the war

Among the conditions is also finding tangible conditions that guarantee the non-repetition of the war

Among Iran's conditions is the recognition of its sovereignty over the "Strait of Hormuz" as its natural and legal right, which is a guarantee for the implementation of the other party's commitments

These Iranian conditions are separate from the demands that were presented to the other party in the second round of Geneva negotiations

Iran has informed all mediators who attended in good faith that a ceasefire will not be achieved except by accepting its terms

We will continue to defend ourselves until the mentioned conditions are met and Iran will end the war when it decides to do so

https://nitter.poast.org/ME_Observer_/status/2036840461374050605#m

>>2754514
>only 27% of USAnians agree with the war
misleading. whenever you actually look at polls it's 27% agree 27% disagree and the rest don't know what the fuck is going. and both the pro war and anti war people in the USA government twist the polls in their favor. the reality is that mostly the USAnian people are a dormant inert complacent pacified pathetic people. content to ignore the atrocities done in their name so long as they get burger.

>>2754497
Where do people get this idea that "ruthless critique" means saying a bunch of retarded bullshit?

>>2754501
Is Israeli Media not correct in this instance ? It clearly sounds like a rejection of America's nonsensical offer

>>2754524
well, they need to portray Iran as the unreasonable party. they won't say: the American madman's offer for Iran, rightfully rejected or some sort of similar portrayal. the unreasonable party is Iran for the mossad.

>>2754519
>misleading. whenever you actually look at polls it's 27% agree 27% disagree and the rest don't know what the fuck is going
Stop making shit up. Multiple polls shows a majority of Americans oppose the war.
https://apnews.com/article/poll-iran-trump-war-oil-gas-prices-2abd1ea4a81f3339cebadd5480fb863b
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/polls-show-what-americans-think-about-the-war-in-iran

Absolutely mind boggling how TWists would rather pretend that this war is more popular than it actually is instead of taking advantage of its clear unpopularity. They'd rather maintain their illusions to justify doing nothing than admit to the fact that American imperialism requires a massive smokescreen of propaganda and false consciousness to function.

>>2754526
Stop teasing and bomb that reactor

🇮🇷🇵🇸NEW: Iran signals ceasefire tied to ending war on Palestine

🔸Iran appears to be linking any potential ceasefire deal with the United States and Israel to ending the war on Palestine, with state media today outlining a condition that the war must end “across all fronts” for an agreement to move forward. Iran has repeatedly signaled it is seeking a comprehensive end to the war, not a temporary ceasefire that allows the U.S. and Israel to restart military operations later.

🔸Press TV reports today that Iran is demanding “the conclusion of the war across all fronts and for all resistance groups involved throughout the region.”

🔸This aligns with what sources told Drop Site’s Jeremy Scahill that Tehran has been conveying through intermediaries — that any deal would require an end to the wars in Lebanon, Iraq, and Palestine.

📌 Recent military messaging reinforces this posture:

➤ March 23: Khatam al-Anbiya Central HQ issued a message to the Muslim world and Palestinians in Gaza, calling Palestine a cause tied to the “dignity, rights, and justice” of the entire Islamic world, and telling Palestinians: “Do not think that you are alone… we are with you, bound by a covenant that does not change,” signaling a long-term, unwavering commitment

➤ March 24: The IRGC warned it would escalate with heavy missile and drone strikes on northern Israel and the Gaza envelope if attacks on civilians in Lebanon and Palestine continue, directly linking its military response to developments in those arenas

➤ March 25: The IRGC said its latest wave marked the beginning of a broader series of loperations targeting Israeli positions in northern Israel and the Gaza envelope, indicating a sustained and expanding campaign tied to Lebanon and Palestine.

https://nitter.poast.org/DropSiteNews/status/2036844823055937834#m

>>2754545
it never gets old

>>2754538
4 out of 10 americans support the war - not fencesitting but support

the fencesitters are also inclined to support it but don't because they have TDS and would like if a bloo dude was in charge, or hasn't read about it yet but once they do they'll support it

>>2754542
Based Based Based Based

>>2754558
>4 out of 10 americans support the war - not fencesitting but support
Yes, and more than 5 out of 10 oppose it. Not fence sitting but oppose. It's the most unpopular war at its outset in US history, but instead of thinking of ways to capitalize on this you're here to tell us how they actually secretly support it and we should just give up.
>the fencesitters are also inclined to support it but don't
Source: your ass.

70% USAnians think it is important for the USA to replace Iran's government with one friendlier to USA interests
72% USAnians think it is important for the USA to prevent Iran from threatening Isreal
88% USAnians think it is important for the USA to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon

the arrogance of USAnians. a bloodthirsty people.

>>2754566
that's crazy
i guess marx just failed to consider that whipeepoo are evil

>>2754538
Yknow sabocat, one of the things that surprises me on this board is that despite the veneer of scientific socialism, vibes based assumptions tend to push back against actual polling.

Like something I said years ago, and I’ve said off and on since, was that Americans—even marginalized ones—broadly see themselves as American and have some pride in that fact, so you’ll get nowhere by doing the whole “United $$nakes of Amerikkka” shit. Someone claimed that “actually half of people fucking hate America and you’ll alienate them by appealing to the patriotic half!” Then I did some research and found that even among Black people a solid majority, like ~60% had patriotic sentiments of some kind.

I think there’s an unwillingness to engage with reality in the western left that undermines the ability to organize within the West.

>>2754572
huh? why did bring up "whipeepoo" and marx?

>>2754502
>he was just cringing at french euro communists who where bastardizing his work.
he would do the same at the sight of current dengoids

>>2754577
yes. people will call the organization a failure if it fails. fucking moron.

>>2754577
keep your excuses for being a dickrider in your containment thread, please

>>2754504
it's both. dialectics

>>2754573
Yeah well it's pretty obvious that ACP was onto something at least insofar as socialism in America will go nowhere unless it openly calls for the transformation of the American nation rather than its destruction. No socialist revolution has ever been built on national nihilism. Of course its a moot point for TWists though since the impossibility of revolution in America is the cornerstone of this philosophy. It's why they cling to such a pessimistic outlook even when signs emerge that contradict it is beyond me. I don't normally try to psychoanalyze people but I've never encountered a TWist who didn't display some mixture of general misanthropy combined with projecting noble savage ideas onto the third world.

>>2754587
>I've never encountered a TWist
you have never encountered a TWist because they literally don't exist in any meaningfully concrete way, is just a meme word you use to police people that call out the opportunism of the american left
>It's why they cling to such a pessimistic outlook even when signs emerge that contradict it is beyond me.
there is no vanguard to be seen in the US, until that changes these "signs" you speak of are inconsequential, and this change is contingent on the end of the opportunism you and your ilk shield from any criticism with the "TWist" boogeyman
now fuck off back to /USApol/, thanks