thanks for baking Captain Sinbad
>>2762694You're welcome. The theme change killed my mood I am pissed.
Watch me unleash armageddon.
>>2762698>2 weeksThe memes write themselves
>>2762691That fag will probably be punished harder for doing this little bit of harmless fagg*try than any murican politician in the Epstein files will be punished for raping and killing little kids.
>Iran Nuclear program
Does Iran actually have a nuclear program or not? Didn't the ahyatolla proclaim them haram or something?
>>2762705they don't but if they had one, at this point, would they let the world know?
>>2762705they have a civilian nuclear program but the distinction between that and a military program is minimal especially since iran has the delivery systems already
>>2762691is there a single high-profile rightoid with a functional marriage?
>>2762705dr ted poastal of MIT says he believes they might already have one up their sleeve. they have the capability and the majority of the work done.
>>2762717
I know what you are
Fucking asshole mods changing the theme to reddit on april 1st
>>2762753What if he TACOs out of TACOing out?
>>2762761
or, that's an april's fool shitposting from trump.
So is the war wrapping up then?
>>2762777No, they are preparing for a ground invasion.
>>2762750i feel compelled to post liberal takes now
>>2762802But seriously, we can't let that totalitarian regime have the nukes.
>>2762801fuck that i'm asking my mom for a bus ticket to mexico
>>2762802isn't this iran war like harry potter and the golden chalice ?
>>2762806nah you're thinking of the goblet of fire where harry is mysteriously entered into the dangerous triwizard tournament, forcing him to compete against elite students
>>2762804Look the idf went to far sometimes but
Supporting. A. Theocracy. Is. Not. Okay.
>>2762808Israel might have some problems but at the very least it's a democracy with checks and balances. The Iranian Regime is a lunatic dictatorship with no rule of law. As communists who love democracy, Israel is the lesser evil.
>>2762816
Sir, that's not very narwhal bacon of you. We updoot wholesome opinions here.
>>2762817It would be funny to have an upvote system for a day
Holy shit it's happening
>>2762816
Yall antisemites need to realize that genocide is just part of Israeli culture and you need to be respectful of that and also they have suffered a lot okay so this is just their way of dealing with trauma.
Another thing, could you please sign this petition to condemn the Iranian regime for appropriating wholesome reddit meme culture? Thank you.
>>2762815>it's a democracy with checks and balances<religious ethnocentric government has been in power for almost 20 yearsI hate when democracy do this.
>>2762815I know the site might look like reddit right now but you don't need to roleplay as an r/worldnews poster.
>>2762836On a scale of 1 to 10, how uncomfortable are you?
>>2762816>>2762836Trace the (You)s backwards in the conversation to their source, and be amazed!
Trump scheduled to give address tomorrow at 9pm.
Leaked text:
>I am nuking Iran and you can't stop me
>>2762852APRIL FOOL'S!!!!!
>>2762852The nightmare scenario for me is that someone actually does use a nuke, there's zero consequences for it, MAD is exposed as bullshit, and then everyone just casually starts using nukes in warfare. Not mutually-assured-destruction but long-term-decay.
So is Trump surrendering tomorrow?
>>2762865I'd like that to be true, but he's going to make another retarded announcement about how everything will take another 2 weeks or whatever
>>2762861You're right but there's still been a global policy to just not use nukes in general since Hiroshima, and Trump could change that then every other nuclear-armed country would follow suit. Like imagine if Israel decides to use a nuke in Gaza or Lebanon.
>>2762814it is a bad plan since trump wants to bomb mexico next, my guess would be sometime after the world cup, or maybe the retarded monkey will bomb mexico regardless and get the world cup cancelled
>>2762815where can I downdoot this post? :-(
anyway, remember when DW stated that the german president is merely a ceremonial role?
dw is at it again: It's Chynah's fault that you hate the US so much.
(this passes as serious journalism in the EU).
>>2762867He's going to announce that he's won bigly first. Then after that he might just bomb them for another two weeks for fun. Thank you for your attention to this message.
>>2762868israel cant. Too close to themselves. contamination can spread quikly to them and would spook settlers into leaving also completely erode what little tolerance other countries have for it
>>2762715anon, that's a 56 yo man. pretending games are for kids.
>>2762889"When you surrender, claim victory"
Shart of War
Sorry if this is only tangentially related to Iran, but why doesn't anybody want a unified Kurdistan?
>>2762886>Iran War: Chinese propaganda tells the truthwow, shocking, horrifying, awful, downdoot
>>2762917>18 million kurds in TurkeyHuh
>>2762917still waiting for the kurdish assault for their US masters that proves that it's just a bullshit fabricated ethnicity propped up by the CIA purely to destablize the middle east btw
Currently two C-17s and two KC-135s heading to MENA, and earlier today there were six C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0427,ae1233,ae04bb,ae1456,ae145e,ae07f4,ae07e6,ae49c6,ae119b,ae07d8More Qatari cope.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=06a27cAnother one of those weird KC-135 movements from Romania. Need to figure out what those are for.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae04be,ae047a,ae04ed>>27628529pm is so late for him, considering his dementia. If they're smart they'll give him every stimulant known to man
Shut up yah goofies. No one is ever going to use a nuke, there is no advantage to it. There is no advantage to trying to generate civilian mass casualty events so obviously and deliberately. These governments got the SARS and the Anthrax and all that. Nukes have no advantage. Except going for the full first-strike.
>>2762942They're just a persian ethnic sub-group (their language is very similar to Farsi) who developed a nationalist movement in response to the formation of the modern state of Turkey.
>>2762948>they are still using JASSMs rather than short-range JDAMsLol.
>>2762948>Press X to doubt.Where were these unspecified miracle AA when the ayatollah was smoked?
>>2762953uygha do you have eyes? What explains the intact debris?
>>2762960Exactly, why is it intact lmao.
>>2762962A missile that successfully hits something usually has nothing that remains of it after the fact, meanwhile an intercepted missile usually has more intact debris. You have it ass-backwards.
>>2762925I would be shocked if he's going to announce that we're entering the war but there's a non-zero chance. I think more likely it will be something about coming fuel rationing/shortages. Get ready for toilet paper to vanish from stores again.
>>2762868> if Israel decides to use a nuke in Gazasettleroids want gaza for themselves, they don't want it to be a cancerous wasteland for decades
>>2762945Oh so Kurds relate to Iran the way Ukrainians relate to Russia kinda?
>>2762886it is only a ceremonial role…
>>2762945kurdish nationalism has pretty much been a thing since before the young turks
xitter is down, is this just xitter being abominable shit or is there a happening
>>2762983
What if you thought:
>This was all a kaik trick to get the US to do their dirty work for them.
But Joe Biden Said: "If there weren't an Israel the US would invent Israel, to protect its interests in the region"
>>2762986"fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
how many more times does america need to be "fooled" "puppeted" "tricked" by Israel before America becomes responsible for its own stupidity, its own gullibility, its unswerving loyalty to settler colonialism and genocide, when will jew-noticers realize that the USA has always been a very similar political project as Israel, just much older? Nazi "Lebensraum" and Zionist "Greater Israel" are the twin children of American "Manifest Destiny."
>>2762988There is no fool me. We only have the options to vote for the Jew Biden or the Jew Trump. There is no non-Jewish option to vote for.
>>2762990>voting is the only optionhow do the palestinians resist zionism? by picking up a gun. How did the native americans resist manifest destiny? by picking up a gun. how do you resist zionism? by crying about kaiks online like a typical /pol/yp. you will continue to do nothing because zionism does not actually hurt you the way it hurts palestinians.
>>2762815The conflict is really complicated all I know is its not a good look to support terrorism comen its not he hard
I know we are backsliding in democracy in the us but its important to remember that the usar guarantees the rights i care about as a gay man, if you dont understand that then you are privileged enough to not have to worry about the right you depend on in a russia iran lead world
>>2762994At this point, I expel American and Israeli ambassadors and pay for oil in Yuan, like Iran wants me to.
>>2763013On par with Ozymandias'?
Do you guys reckon they deliberately postponed the Moon mission launch until now, because of the war?
Y'know, a bit of key jangling?
>>2763025which is pretty fucked up because they've been postponing that for like a year now
How many days into the 3 day Special Combat Operation are we?
>>2762702Hard to be a pleb and the "minister of war" at same time.
>>2763046I don't get it, so they 'sell the oil' and the amount of oil sitting in containers doesn't change, nor does it move anywhere. The demand for it doesn't change. But the price changes.
>>2763051Not an official account, though.
>>2763051bit gay disrespecting the dead, but I guess this drone help operation was just a grift to bolster public opinion
>>2763046Yep. Trump and his insiders are probably buying this dip right now before they inevitably execute the airborne assault on the weekend after markets close.
>>2763048Most of the trading occurs in futures markets (i.e. purely speculative instruments). No actual oil is changing hands for the most part, people are just betting on its future price.
>>2763047That's the point. A pleb like (you) would go to jail if you pulled some bullshit like this.
>>2763013Brit, Aussie, USanian + Israel + UAE alliance?
>>2763071Coalition of the absolute fucking retards.
>>2763054>bit gay disrespecting the deadLib
>>2763072>>2763071the UK announced more troops to the Gulf yesterday. trying to appear not to be supporting the war, but also supporting it.
>>2763075I didn't know we were doing Iraq/Afghanistan 3.0 this time with no real justification other than die for Israel so the Zionists can take over all of Lebanon.
>>2763065all that to erect a technoratic AI dystopia led by pedophilic transhumanists and other religious nutters on the ashes. what a time to be alive.
>>2763075>the UK announced more troops to the Gulf yesterday.I don't know if this is an actual foreign policy strategy to help aid preserve US/western hegemony, or if it's just a desperate larp by the UK ruling class to pretend like they still matter and can influence world events.
>>2763055Does it mean that traders are losing tons of money due to the difference between real oil-in-tank spot prices and financial market prices? How much physical oil is purchased at market rates vs long and short term contracts anyways? Aren't there technically deliveries made on futures contracts (rather, transfer of ownership for oil in tanks somewhere) or are they exclusively settled in cash?
>>2763088oil is relatively inflexible in that itll always sell, but theres enough variation to game the market
>>2762948>Even the account's twatter pfp is AI generatedLol
When will you morons stop falling for this shit. Just because you WANT to believe it doesn't it make it real.
>>2763065We just need a little conflict in Asia for WW3 to be official
>>2763065>>Russia and China backing IranYeah I'm seeing how they are backing them lol
Anyone else had their theme changed from black to white?
>>2762690>Autists confirmed that Saudi Arabia is used for strikes (Saudis lied yet again)May I get the source?
>More problems in USA like sex scandals becoming public and Ballroom malfunctions are distracting Trumplike the Epstein thing
>>2763065Actually Russia is relieving Europe with gas/oil to save then from a crisis and the lesser NATO countries are not following the US as evidenced by the daily crashouts of Trump.
>>2763065if I got this right:
axis1:US, Israel, Ukraine
axis2:China, Russia, Iran
Which side will EU and Australian and Japan take?
>>2763109from the previous thread
>>2762367 >>2763115Japan, Israel and anglosphere will stay as USA colonies. EU will gain sovereignty and strike a deal with Russia on Ukraine.
>>2763115Always bet on Pissrael
>>2763115Japan is a colony, they cannot take any side other than that of the metropolis in Washington.
The UK is firmly in the side of the US.
Saudi and the gulf states will probably side with the US more openly soon (they already do materially).
EU's fash parties are set to win almost on all countries there so these are going to be fully US aligned with time instead of wishy washy, yes Spain included.
Australia is indeed in a weird spot but I feel they'll fall in line with AUKUS eventually.
Turkiye, India, Pakistan all seem to be in a weird in-between state, these are the actually curious actors imo.
>>2763121What are your thoughts anon?
>>2763120>australia is in a weird spotAustralia has no sovereignty whatsoever, they are way too important geographically, both as a naval and land base, to be able to snatch the french pacific territories (yes the kanaks are literally glowie funded, stay mad) and to ensure they can bully the rest of the anglo dominions if they start having stupid thought like approaching china diplomatically
>>2763120So it's basically the whole world against Russia, China and Iran
unconfirmed but hearing thru socials that a senior diplomat at the UN quit and blew the whistle because the UN is getting ready to let the yanks or the israelis nuke tehran.
Italian Defense Minister doomposting
https://www.gazetaexpress.com/en/Italian-minister-I-have-terrible-information-I-am-not-sleeping-because-of-what-is-going-to-happen/"Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto has issued a dramatic warning of war with Iran, saying there is "terrifying" information indicating an escalation of the conflict, the consequences of which would be felt across Europe."
>>2763134This is the dude that said NATO is defunct relic btw
>>2763115china is australia's optimal ally. there's a seppo controlled fifth column that needs to be eliminated first.
>>2763104It's about Time Kim unified Korea
>>2763132tracked it down. mohammed safa, the WHO has confirmed they're preparing for a nuclear event too. flipping the table after blundering this hard is weak AF.
>>2763141would be funny if trump shat on the constitution some more and banned gasoline exports
>>2763132neh, probably a schizo, it's not really how the UN works and nuking Tehran now would make even the USA a pariah state
>>2763150Nuking Iran will not turn them into pariahs because the only countries that can resist USI are treatlerites who want gibs/trade with USI and those that want to destroy the USI are too weak.
So I fear they will get their way. If only North Korea was the size of Russia, oh the majestic nuclear hellfire that would be unleashed.
>>2763150the epsteinites are ghouls. if iran blockades the strait indefinitely the global economy tanks. I don't put floating nukes past them, and throwing a bitchfit is in character for trump.
>>2763156Nuking Tehran will not achieve any of their objectives, it will be a gratuitous display of inhumanity, which they COULD do but the IRGC would not be de-articulated and they would probably react by dirty bombing Tel Aviv, destroying desalinization plants, just make Tel Aviv uninhabitable generally speaking
>>2763150its not gonna happen cuz it doesnt immediately solve israels security concerns over the ballistic missiles, enrichment and proxy support
My prediction, having observed this trend a few times, is that israel will now look to de-escalate having dealt their damage and to move the public interest to something else. Then in another 6-8 months or so we will see another push toward their ethnostate
>>2763145What he saw was probably contingency plans. the UN doesnt work like that, authorising a nuclear strike. But they probably are drawing up plans for all sorts of scenarios, like what to do if Netanyahu & trump decide to drop the bomb. What if it turned out that Tehran secretly had built a nuke and responded by dropping it on Tel Aviv.
what to do with millions of refugees, survivors, etc…
>>2763120>EU's fash partiesThey are bleeding voters right now and will continue bleeding voters the longer the strait remains closed. Trump has become too noxious and the global reaction insists on openly subordinating themselves to Trump.
>>2763165I thought they were supposed to reveal their juan guaido to us before pretending he was in charge
>>2763165The irony is that they replaced an older naive generation willing to negotiate and appease the empire with a younger generation that is not afraid of further escalation.
>>2763170Trump has private LARP sessions with Pahlavi.
>>2763170they had twenty Juan guaidos waiting in Tehran, but the IDF killed them all in airstrikes.
>>2763165they're invading tomorrow I take it
>>2763165>Iran doesn't want to launch missles foreverThanks for the news, Captain Obvious
>>2763184>they're invading tomorrow I take itYou know, it'd be
fucking hilarious if Trump used the Artemis launch as cover to make his big "boots on the ground" and "coalition of the willing" announcement along the UK (And Australia?) who presumably also had big boy speeches to make, lately. The only funnier thing would be if Trump had to delay they speech and the anglo cucks suddenly announced their dogs ate their speeches, at the same time.
>>2763207Australian PM already made the speech and it was just about fuel prices. He said it the crisis will last for months despite Australia not being an active participant in the war.
Also, they only have 37 days worth of reserves while IEA minimum is 90 days. And they are very dependent on imports.
so, Pezeshkian got replaced?
>>2763101>all is AI>frantically and straitjacketed screaming>I-I've s-seen it, l-look at that t-twisted p-pi-pixel there!>>2762953he wasn't looking protection. according to own Iranian sources, he was doing his normal routinary life. also had a terminal disease (cancer?).
>>2763221yea
great meme potential
>>2763213>xi mogging>the humbling of private credit>irans booming oil profitsthe situation is excellent
>>2763224>how China hopesChina doesn't hope, China does what's needed to be done
these are getting out of hand, lmao.
>>2763224lmao. interesting times we're seeing with the economist.
>>2763220>so, Pezeshkian got replaced?In itself theoretically possible, but the rest of Trump's post is all bullshit until proven otherwise. The only thing consistent about Trump's statements regarding this war is that he makes shit up.
Iranian FM just denied the request for a ceasefire:
>Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman says US President Trump's statements about Iran's request for a ceasefire are false and baseless.https://xcancel.com/PressTV/status/2039349979928571960 >>2763229>In itself theoretically possibleI was doing a rhetorical sarcastic question. obviously he wasn't, and trump is just smelling his own farts, and got dizzy.
>>2763239fake and cucktin would invade chechnya if they try
>>2763231
>Fundamentally, they are no different from Big Tech: they crave engagement at any price,
Why
>>2763228Marley Haunts Scrooge as a ghost
Epstein Haunts Trump as an AI
>>2763231
bro, the entire planet of information sharing is now corrupted by bots and propaganda, sorry you missed the 90's.
Even your own physical friends and family are just programmed bots now, there is no escape. Take the hermit pill. Or, just wade in and start swinging.
>>2763247That entire regime is in dire need of a good taylor
>>2763249Fuck off John Bolton.
>>2763242>>2763240I'd wait for
>>2763224 to confirm or deny.
>>2763265The only russian article I found says "IRGC stated it on telegram" with no link and I don't see anything on Kadyrov's telegram either so yeah
>>2763213I may need to start learning Mandarin.
>>2763228What if the conspiracy about how Epstein is still alive and living in Israel was true but he died to a random Iranian missile.
>>2763156>If only North Korea was the size of Russia, oh the majestic nuclear hellfire that would be unleashed.They need a bigger arsenal, not necessarily bigger landmass, though that also helps
>>2762705It's complicated.
They had a secret weapons program up thru like the 1990s, and their own documentation has explained exactly how they kept it hidden from nuclear inspection teams. They did eventually give up on it and now have a purely civilian nuclear program, for electricity, and even western intelligence programs concluded the weapons program ended in 2003. They continue to allow nuclear inspection teams on their sites, but the fact that they have historically deceived these orgs leaves some unconvinced. And some say the level of enrichment in their fuel stocks far exceeds what is necessary for a civilian program, and though it is not yet weapons-grade, it wouldn't take much to get there. I don't know enough to comment on that.
The sticking point in recent years has been: demands that Iran give up its enrichment facilities, and simply import enriched fuel for nuclear power; Iran understandably refuses to do this, because the international community has brutalized their nation with sanctions and trade restrictions, and making their energy grid more reliant on imports is far from ideal. The current government really derives its ability to govern from its ability keep this mostly isolated economy running. So there is distrust on both sides as it is, making it easy for Israeli narratives about nuclear weapons to spread uncritically.
>>2763304iirc it was on a substack that someone posted here. someone realised that the space was similar to a underground data centre in Jerusalem built by the idf, and all the contractors were defense linked.
>>2763309Yes, that was the post I was remembering. Thanks.
the irgc commander who used to meme on trump on x is dead
mojtaba is dead
bibi is dead
>>2763129It's Iran, Yemen and parts of Lebanon against the world. Chynah would rather want more trade with everyone and Russia is made of giga cucks.
Currently one Emirati C-17 heading to MENA, and earlier today there was one KC-135, four American C-17s, one Emirati C-17 and one Qatari C-17.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=896c2c,06a27b,896c3e,ae058b,ae1170,ae123e,ae1465,ae4f15>>2763319holy fuck its real
>>2763319That's right, dead serious about going to Itchy and Scratchy Land
❗️🇦🇪🇺🇦
>The UAE is abandoning the Ukrainian system for combating Iranian drones due to its complete ineffectiveness. Five out of five targets in the UAE, which were being protected by Ukrainian military personnel, were hit by Iranian drones, according to local media.
hilarious if true
>>2763319>>2763321Don't fucking do this to me you fuckmooks.
>>2763304kudos to the boom mic operator
>>2763328he's got to be due a heart attack soon, surely to god
>>2763329No, we're at war with Iran because of George Washington.
>>2763326lol didnt the rhienmetall CEO also recently say it was a joke and they were playing with toys
>>2763337Don't know what your image has to do with anything but I'm guessing it's another dengoid strawman about how I want the chinese to kill people
>>2763338yep its over. we had a good run guys but its time for the cuckout
>>2763333Maxwell put your red shoes on….
>>2763338man i hope iran organizes a regime change in the usa that would be so funny
>>2763344I hope it is a shitpost. With donny's halucinations I think the world is owed something concrete
>>2763338dear ameriburgers:
were opening the strait
APRIL FOOLS
>>2763350I wonder if there is an Iranian version of April fools' day? They could add a bit of culture to the shitpost at the same time.
not clickin dat shit uigha
>>2763352Seems like it's easy to patch up that boy's stomach. Will be good as new and ready to fight in a week tops
>>2763352Are there actually any images out there of dead or dismembered Americans, from this war? I've been wanting to see.
<Habib Battah
>Thread: Al Jazeera's coverage of Israel's war on Lebanon is overwhelming Israel centric. Israeli voices dominate and critics or resistors of Israel are rarely heard. I've noticed this trend for a while &today is good example. 6 min were devoted to Lebanon in Newshour. Breakdown:
>Coverage begins with a very long 45 second soundbite from Israel's Defense Minister Katz who claims to be enforcing security by destroying Lebanese homes on the border. No counterpoints offered to his illegal invasion, no challenge to his notion that violence brings security.
>The Al Jazeera anchor then tells us the Lebanese army is withdrawing from border towns despite protests from locals; no reason is given beyond "the deteriorating security situation"-a strange way to describe a scorched earth invasion by a nuclear power that has flattened towns
>Why would an army abandon its own people? Is the Lebanese army incapable of defense? Why is that? Did the order to withdraw come from Washington, the army's main funder and trainer? None of these questions are asked by Al Jazeera reporters. No critique, no analysis.
>Next segment: anchor tells us Israel is bombing what it says are "Hezbollah targets" in Beirut. Again, no counterpoints. Al Jazeera rarely mentions that Israel has offered no evidence for such claims, which it repeats every hour of the day to justify collective punishment.
>Israeli leaders themselves have admitted to targeting civilian infrastructure in Palestine and Lebanon, using collective punishment to create social pressure, division and ethnic cleansing. Why would Al Jazeera continually ignore this&lify Israeli army propaganda unchallenged?
>Finally we have a report from Al Jazeera's correspondent in Lebanon; his report AGAIN begins with a soundbite from an Israeli spokesman who threatens Lebanon will "pay a heavy price"-but no counterpoint on the price Israel is paying, daily attacks on invading forces not mentioned
>The correspondent then quotes the US-backed and increasingly unpopular Lebanese prime minister who criticizes Hezbollah, no counterpoints from many Lebanese who disagree and instead followed by MORE soundbites from Israeli officials.
>First we hear from Israeli PM Netanyahu, who blames Hezbollah, and then defense minister Katz (heard the 2nd time in 5 min!) who claims a need for a "buffer zone" from Hezb. "terrorists" and "terror infrastructure" Again, no legal counterpoints or response from the other side.
>While Al Jazeera often features Israeli officials calling Hezbollah terrorists, we never seem to hear anyone on Al Jazeera call the US or Israel terrorists, we never hear their bases and banned weapons labeled as terror infrastructure. In fact, we rarely hear from Hezbollah on AJ
>To recap, in Al Jazeera's 6 min on Lebanon today, vast amount of airtime goes to Israeli voices: 4 soundbites in total: its defense minister is heard twice, its army spokesperson and PM, plus numerous references to them by reporters/anchors. We hear nothing from the opposing side
>We only hear two voices from Lebanon and neither are critical of Israel: an anti-Hezbollah politician and a priest lamenting the withdrawal of the army. This means Al Jazeera is covering the war on Lebanon largely from an Israeli perspective, which begins and frames all reporting
>>2763416>vid>f35 trackable by heathahahahahahhaha fucking wunderwaffen
>>2763416>exams on the beachjelly tbh
>>2763362Yet again the lesson is never, under any circumstances, trust the US or Israel to do ANYTHING. Never negotiate with them in good faith, never deal with them, never give them that inch unless you are prepared to defend the mile to the death. Especially when their media are saying "relations are warming, this is a long-awaited rapprochement, give that guy a Nobel Peace Prize, etc."
kinda sad how much this thread sucks and is just as uninformed as twitter
>>2763457care to correct anyone or add anything, or are you just gonna vaguepost?
>>2763460axis of resistance is doing everything people condemned them for not doing. tankie campists were right about everything like usual and most of this thread is just whining ultras and people dooming inside a censorship bubble. effortposters dont even come out of /ukr/ general because the people here fucking suck ass. can be summed up as iran fighting the epstein class on behalf of the whole world and winning, bringing sinwars war to washington, and the most people can do here is wring their hands about gas prices and their personal safety
weve been waiting for this moment for decades and now that its happening people dont even recognize it and/or think its bad
>>2763462idk, looks to me like most people are cheering on Iran and most leftkkkoms gave up
>>2763462Literally everyone here except for maybe that one leftcom troll is critically supporting Iran in this war
>>2763464Whats this "it" youre talking about?
>>2763466>he thinks treatlers can readgod bless his reformist soul
>>2763462wow that's like the exact opposite of what I thought you were going to say…
>>2763473not a single burgerreicher even bothered to read osama's letter either, and that's back when we were like 20% more literate.
>>2763466Link, I want to make the text into audio for the benefit for my illiterate compatriots in burgerland (including me).
>>2763479found it
https://insiderpaper.com/iran-president-letter-to-americans-full-text/In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
To the people of the United States of America, and to all those who, amid a flood of distortions and manufactured narratives, continue to seek the truth and aspire to a better life:
Iran—by this very name, character, and identity—is one of the oldest continuous civilizations in human history. Despite its historical and geographical advantages at various times, Iran has never, in its modern history, chosen the path of aggression, expansion, colonialism, or domination. Even after enduring occupation, invasion, and sustained pressure from global powers—and despite possessing military superiority over many of its neighbors—Iran has never initiated a war. Yet it has resolutely and bravely repelled those who have attacked it.
The Iranian people harbor no enmity toward other nations, including the people of America, Europe, or neighboring countries. Even in the face of repeated foreign interventions and pressures throughout their proud history, Iranians have consistently drawn a clear distinction between governments and the peoples they govern. This is a deeply rooted principle in Iranian culture and collective consciousness—not a temporary political stance.
For this reason, portraying Iran as a threat is neither consistent with historical reality nor with present-day observable facts. Such a perception is the product of political and economic whims of the powerful—the need to manufacture an enemy in order to justify pressure, maintain military dominance, sustain the arms industry, and control strategic markets. In such an environment, if a threat does not exist, it is invented.
Within this same framework, the United States has concentrated the largest number of its forces, bases, and military capabilities around Iran—a country that, at least since the founding of the United States, has never initiated a war. Recent American aggressions launched from these very bases have demonstrated how threatening such a military presence truly is. Naturally, no country confronted with such conditions would forgo strengthening its defensive capabilities. What Iran has done—and continues to do—is a measured response grounded in legitimate self-defense, and by no means an initiation of war or aggression.
Relations between Iran and the United States were not originally hostile, and early interactions between the Iranian and American people were not marred with hostility or coup d’état—an illegal American 1953 tension. The turning point, however, was the intervention aimed at preventing the nationalization of Iran’s own resources. That coup disrupted Iran’s democratic process, reinstated dictatorship, and sowed deep distrust among Iranians toward U.S. policies. This distrust deepened further with America’s support for the Shah’s regime, its backing of Saddam Hussein during the imposed war of the 1980s, the imposition of the longest and most comprehensive sanctions in modern history, and ultimately, unprovoked military aggression—twice, in the midst of negotiations—against Iran.
Yet all these pressures have failed to weaken Iran. On the contrary, the country has grown stronger in many areas: literacy rates have tripled—from roughly 30% before the Islamic Revolution to over 90% today; higher education has expanded dramatically; significant advances have been achieved in modern technology; healthcare services have improved; and infrastructure has developed at a pace and scale incomparable to the past. These are measurable, observable realities that stand independent of fabricated narratives.
At the same time, the destructive and inhumane impact of sanctions, war, and aggression on the lives of the resilient Iranian people must not be underestimated. The continuation of military aggression and recent bombings profoundly affect people’s lives, attitudes, and perspectives. This reflects a fundamental human truth: when war inflicts irreparable harm on lives, homes, cities, and futures, people will not remain indifferent toward those responsible.
This raises a fundamental question: Exactly which of the American people’s interests are truly being served by this war? Was there any objective threat from Iran to justify such behavior? Does the massacre of innocent children, the destruction of cancer-treatment pharmaceutical facilities, or boasting about bombing a country “back to the stone ages” serve any purpose other than further damaging the United States’ global standing?
Iran pursued negotiations, reached an agreement, and fulfilled all its commitments. The decision to withdraw from that agreement, escalate toward confrontation, and launch two acts of aggression in the midst of negotiations were destructive choices made by the U.S. government—choices that served the delusions of a foreign aggressor.
Attacking Iran’s vital infrastructure—including energy and industrial facilities—directly targets the Iranian people. Beyond constituting a war crime, such actions carry consequences that extend far beyond Iran’s borders. They generate instability, increase human and economic costs, and perpetuate cycles of tension, planting seeds of resentment that will endure for years. This is not a demonstration of strength; it is a sign of strategic bewilderment and an inability to achieve a sustainable solution.
Is it not also the case that America has entered this aggression as a proxy for Israel, influenced and manipulated by that regime? Is it not true that Israel, by manufacturing an Iranian threat, seeks to divert global attention away from its crimes toward the Palestinians? Is it not evident that Israel now aims to fight Iran to the last American soldier and the last American taxpayer dollar—shifting the burden of its delusions onto Iran, the region, and the United States itself in pursuit of illegitimate interests?
Is “America First” truly among the priorities of the U.S. government today?
I invite you to look beyond the machinery of misinformation—an integral part of this aggression—and instead speak with those who have visited Iran. Observe the many accomplished Iranian immigrants—educated in Iran—who now teach and conduct research at the world’s most prestigious universities, or contribute to the most advanced technology firms in the West. Do these realities align with the distortions you are being told about Iran and its people?
Today, the world stands at a crossroads. Continuing along the path of confrontation is more costly and futile than ever before. The choice between confrontation and engagement is both real and consequential; its outcome will shape the future for generations to come.
Throughout its millennia of proud history, Iran has outlasted many aggressors. All that remains of them are tarnished names in history, while Iran endures—resilient, dignified, and proud.”
>>2763503>Excavation equipment<few hundred troopsSo what is Iran going to be doing while they're working on this construction project? Lol probably would need a few hundred troops just for the excavation let alone keeping Iran from shooting at them while they do it.
>>2763503>building a runway inside iran isn't this giving off reminders of the failed operation under jimmie carter? lol
>>2763524building runways on newly occupied land was routine for the US in WW2, they did just that on a bunch of tiny atolls in the Pacific. But today? Not a chance.
>>2763514How would they even prevent Iran from attacking them? The constitution site is just going to be a massive drone target. Even if they do dig it up, do they even know the uranium is even there? Iran could have moved it
>>2763530there was an article recently a week or two ago where the pentagon was desperately asking defense companies for concrete specs, and bunkers that can be dropped from the air.
>>2763339it was just a meme illustrating your point comedically. no need to be salty.
>>2763542That’s absolutely retarded, what they going to dig it out with hand tools, running back and forth during drone attacks? Drone attacks they won’t see coming because there’s no way they’ll manage to maintain an early warning system.
>>2763421Infrared still has alot shorter detection range than radar returns
>>2763556I think in situations where you are expecting them, it only really matters that you can lock onto them
>>2763556Yeah, and then you just do dispersed defense and have many redundant sensors instead of one big radar dish that also sends out frequencies that let the SEAD know where it is.
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/10/army-2030-disperse-or-die-network-and-live/ Army 2030: Disperse or die, network and live
>Long-range precision strikes are now so deadly that even rear-area support units must spread out and take cover to survive — which puts unprecedented strain on command & control networks. Attacking Israel, US bases, and the Gulfies makes perfect sense. But why is Itan attacking the Kurds? Does the regime want them to start an independence war?
Kurds really can't catch a break between being attacked by NATO/Turkey, Syria/Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and now Iran too…
>>2763299>>2763557now lets see the IAEA reports on israel's nuclear program. oh wait, the yanks just gave them nukes and did nothing to prevent their political situation degrading to the point where the knesset is run by the jew klux klan.
>>2763557my recollection of the taiwanese program was they tried to do in secret without the US finding out (like Israel, and the three of them co-operated intensely) but the documents were leaked in the US by a defector to the CIA and pressure was applied to shit it down.
this is slightly different to iran trying to weave a third way of being as close to a nuclear state for detterence without being a nuclear state because the ayatollah said nukes were haraam.
Ted Postol of MIT said it really won't be difficult at all for them to get one and he believes since the ayatollah dead it makes logical sense that they have some in production or ready to go and just waiting to be revealed. but who really knows?
>>2763574Why do tankkkkoids take so much joy in the murder of socialists by islamic theocrats?
>>2763581the kurds are fucking cringe bro. all they ever do is wetwork in reigime change operations for the anglo american empire. only deadshit westoid anarchist useful idiots ever bring them up. rojava did nothing but help the yanks install ISIS as the government of syria. this move hamstrung hezbollah and directly supported the gaza genocide and the ethnic cleansing of southern lebanon. their 30 pieces of silver? recognition by fucking catalan (wow two countries that don't exist) and the same ISIS government they helped sided with turkey to eliminate them.
idealist moron.
>>2763621where's the answer?
>>2763581because getting rid of amercan hegemony in the region is more essential than protecting a single ethnic group's failed CIA-backed independence movement which only ever became an issue in the first place because of the imperialist Sykes-Picot fuckery in 1916. Imperialists created the Kurdish independence issue through their carving up of the Ottoman empire, and then they used the Kurdish independence movement as a billy club against other local interests.
>>2763631
it's actually insane how hard history has vindicated old BO's rojava hate
>>2763633take it to usapol
>>2763608calling bullshit on that narrative. the material that got moved was all signed for, nobody got prosecuted, and israel suffered no diplomatic consequences. if that's stealing I should turn myself in to the cops for the heist I pulled to raid the fridge at my parents house.
>>2763627This lol. I guess it's a perfect example of his obscurantist "intellectualism" in a nut shell.
>I vill answer your question *sniff*<Goes into a long spiel of disparate unconnected statements until you forget what the question was.SO what I got was:
>Why support Ukraine?>I am not brainwashed by Western media. I read a lot of Russian media.>They love the proverb: you only hate people who you don't understand the story/perspective of>The Russians are just covering up for the bad they did with their story which is just an empty excuseOk….
But wasn't the original question why do you support Ukraine? Not why do you not support Russia? He didn't even make a case for why the Russian narrative is false or why what they did was bad, but that wasn't even the fucking question. The question was "why do you support Ukraine?"
>>27636211) he glows
2) he is a neoliberal pseud pundit who uses leftism as a shocking aesthetic
3) he bases his opposition to Russia based on "horrible things" he read in Russian media like Dugin's brainrot, but he never once brings up the sheer racism, western chauvinism and nazi apologia omnipresent in Ukrainian media
>>2763304I remember it was in /USA/pol. and yes, it was a substack. There's also a tiktoker where she goes full tinfoil hat, and suggests it's an AI data center.
>>2763503at this point i'm convinced trump is pulling out, look at the sort of shit that's leaking, that's meant for people to understand that it's a stupid task
>>2763481>Iranians telling Americans that this war and their government are against their interests >not telling them that they're all gleeful and willing treatlerite fourth reich collaborators that will genocide entire nations for one (1) funkopopFelixsisters???
>>2763627i mean he has answered it without any weird lacanian shit: he thinks putin is an existential risk to europe
>>2763661nobody cares about azov glowzek
>>2763621say it don't spray it
I'm suspicious of anybody who's a warmonger. I don't think working class people want to kill each other to help elites make more money.
>>2763614possibly but that's the sort of judgement you can only make in retrospect. maybe it's a suez sandwhich and the bread is galipoli
>>2763666i'm a class warmonger
>>2763228why is zelensky the US soldier at the end?
>>2763671UA is sending drone 'specialists' to provide 'interception training' to the Arab countries. as for example:
>>2763051 >>2763692FUCK ZIGGERS
FUCK DRUMPF
and
FUCK THE IDF
over
>>2763696>muh ziggersgo back to 4pol /chug/ or whatever the thread is called.
>>2763699nothing matters now. we live in the blackest reaction and we missed the time window for avoiding a mass extinction event because we were too busy playing geopolitics over controlling the flow of black sludge
>>2763647>1,000 lbsThat is more that what was stated wtf?
>>2763633He finally said something right
>>2763700seeing as Russia is an Asian county, doesn't that mean it is ww3 already? Or is there some bullshit specific definition?
>>2763697the lady doth protest too much, methinks
big if true
>>2763647yeah, surely the Iranians will allow the fuckers go around with machinery to extract the uranium.
>>2763475idk i listen to anti empire project, electronic intifada, east is a podcast, red nation, breakthrough news, adnan husain, revleft. theyre all hype as fuck and united in message. even half good shows and right wing commentators are based af right now. then i come here and its all doomer looser ultra whining and hand wringing and /usapol/ /isg/ drama bullshit and retards posting 'le interimperialist war' and 'lenin said antimperialism is a sham and humbug'. i stopped posting news and just scroll through the threads at max speed now cause its a waste of my time to come here. this site has been absolute garbage for like >3 years this is just the last straw
>>2763701Humanity has survived multiple extinction events, including climate shifts. So what I’m saying is the blackest reaction has only begun and the next couple generations may be living in the aftermath of a hell we created. But they’ll figure it out anyways. You just keep swimming
>>2763724>'le interimperialist war' and 'lenin said antimperialism is a sham and humbug'that's literally one guy spamming the same joke over and over and over ad nauseam
>>2763727except it happens 24 hours a day?
idk i just expect years of hard theory and changing world conditions to wake people up a bit but instead people who learn just leave this place and it spirals into a cesspit of more and more illiterate rejects
>>2763730Russia is predominantly in the continent of Aisa u cunt
>>2763729he's autistic like that
>>2763740Weak. Should've seen /ukr/ get spammed with the same image of a Donbas soldier with the Totenkopf patch. (it was a war trophy)
>>2763729we have managed to live rent-free in the heads of some people, unfortunately, yeah.
>>2763648
Nice try, I ain’t going back to MSM social media. Even at leftypol suckiest at least I feel challenged reading stuff here. The only social media I got left is YouTube and I’m considered leaving that too. I wish there was other somewhat active image boards. Nuke Chan is a ghost town, 4chin and hatechan are Epstein. The internet in general sucks and leftypol is like the last dive bar sandwich between a Starbucks and TGI Fridays.
>>2763746Maybe shill leftypol in other websites so it gets more lively. Hell, you could even shill it IRL by writing "leftypol.org" with a sharpie on public bathrooms or walls in the street.
I always end up going back to 4chan even though its mental retardation sickens me because things are always happening in there. It's an active website. This website needs to be more active.
>>2763742This lol.
The US-Israeli invasion of Iran might be one of the least divisive current events in /leftypol/ history. Aside from a serial shitposting leftKKKom who's likely just a troll and not a gommie, the thread is pretty united in its condemnation of the great satan and the greater satan.
>>2763750>This website needs to be more active.its needs to have less boards, the userbase this shithole has doesn't justify having more than 2
>>2763750OR you learn another language, like mandarin, and go outside the English speaking Western Internet bubble.
There's a
reason we scare off all the hoes.
>>2763754Correct but good luck convincing the staff of this sensible point.
They appear to think a sub-board is like a discord channel (because they're mostly from there) and they actively resist any kind of material analysis of the board's demographic.
>>2763756I speak 3 languages, the other two being spanish and portuguese.
Brazilians are alright in reddit but the problem is that that website is addictive as fuck and I end up scrolling the day away. Brazilian imageboards are nazi on steroids and spanish internet is like 95% reactionary.
>>2763761spanish internet is still part of the western internet bubble doe
>>2763774Japan moving mountains to prove to everyone that the Oxford study is a legitimate experiment jesus christ
>>2763771not really, not in practice.
>>2763756What awesome websites could the chinese possibly have, come on, lad
>>2763819"We're getting ready to get out of there"
It's also a closed press video, this isn't meant to be released to the public.
In a world where nothing ever happens….
>>2763127sauce for glowie funding of kanaky movement?
>>2763610>Somehow losing highly enriched uranium enough for like 5 bombs
>losing Yeah sure 😀
>>2763819Toxic Positivity in geopol. Int Relations students, how are you holding up?
>>2763707No, you have to wait for the war to end and the some westoid to coin the term
>>2763756What website when you know mandarin?
>>2763494how hard is it to give a fucking source, or at bare minimum a target/location?
>>2763855Wouldn't know, I have hoes to scare.
>>2763707Seeing as how this is not a full scale great power conflict yet, it might be termed as the tRump War or maybe just The Minor Conflicts.
Only if it truly escalates and we see more great powers involved directly will it become another Great War or World War 3
>>2763856Stop asking me for the location. If i knew i wouldn't be uploading those here trying to see if someone knows.
Some Israeli uploaded those in another imageboard. Seems like iran, some ammo depot. Source is probably rotter pro but I dunno
>>2763858Just call it phoney war
>>2763503lol is the military high command literally forbidden to say "its impossible, we cant do it" or are they really stupid enough to believe they could do it?
>>2763859then for all you know this isnt even from this war, so its worthless to post it
>>2763867No, it is from this war unless you prove it otherwise.
>>2763581iraqi kurds are not socialists you retard, they dont even claim it, they're proud nationalists capitalists. Iranian kurds arent socialist either.
>>2763871you even more worthless than your post you idiot
https://x.com/CryptoCyberia/status/20393507854026752 16
Massive Polymarket insider bet for boots on the ground just placed.
>>2763882Paste*** fucking kill myself
>>2763724while I agree mods are often not doing their job stamping down on obvious glowie behavior, those retards thankfully arent even close to the majority of posts, and most of the userbase clearly hate them and push back
>>2763856that one was in Isfahan
>>2763880Didn't the first bet not work out? It's April already.
>>2763894 it seems like he won that earlier bet that the US would attack by Feb 28. but it doesn't say what his current bet is? other than ground invasion? did he bet on a date? because it seems like most people reckon there will be some sort of ground operation.
>>2763896Right after posting I realized that it was probably someone else betting on a ground invasion of Iran
before March 31st. That guy lost, like 70k. Guess not every suspicious wallet is an insider. Polymarket is fucking small-fry money-wise, anyway. Schizos just latch onto a single WallStreetBets gambling addict that got lucky, and think a gambling addict's addiction is actually the oracle and not another GUH in waiting.
Wonder if there's "loss porn" being posted on Polymarket subreddit or do they just invest in $ROPE immediately. It probably exists.
>>2763724It's because this board is pozzed and full of (((glown*ggers)))
>>2763742oh no i was there the whole time. and syria.
>>2763633Next member of the dem progressive caucus: Eric Prince
>>2763916At least it's not run by glowuighurs, like /k/ and /pol/. I think.
>two to three more weeks
That address was fucking retarded lmao. Cunt out of breath just talking about nothing.
>>2763950>traders actually though he was going to chicken out of sucking Israeli cockThe joos are right, goyim truly are cattle
>>2763904$Rope is the name of my atmospheric electronic indie-pop project
so what did the blubbering bloated boomer say?
>>2763904>Guess not every suspicious wallet is an insider. Insiders do exist but these prediction market hustlers are just seeing gamblers take big risks and call them insiders. I think there are also attempts at market manipulation that goes on around this. Like zomg there's an insider buy YES while they're trying to hook people to use as their own exit liquidity.
>>2763957Same old: 2 more weeks. It's Europe's job to open the strait. Short term pain for long term gain. Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. Sleepy Joe Biden. I won the election in 2020. No president ever won like he did. Lock her up! Bigly. Lying fake media. Deport them all and let god sort them out. Biggest ratings in history.
absolute waste of life to hear that speech.
as someone who regularly listens to his crap, this is the crapiest speech he has gave in forever.
>>2763962he was slurring at times probbably from the drugs
>>2763965He's slurring because the drugs
aren't working
>>2763967Is that why we keeps repeating the same thing over and over again? Think he talked about these 13 zogbots and "FINISHING THE MISSION" multiple times already.
>>2763976yeah, brain is melted. he ran out of steam 5 minutes in and looked exhausted at the end.
>>2763994that's crazy work. does he know what he's thinking?
remember today or yesterday US media said this bubblewand blower said he was tired of the Iran war and that he was talking to trump to finish the war soon?
>>2764001>>2764001picrel
Flood detected; Post discarded.
Oh goooood I'm compleettinngggggg
>>2764002I genuinely can’t imagine anything more humiliating than dying or killing for Lindsay Graham.
>>2763998Literally everyone but this board is ZOG-pilled at this point in time.
>>2763994>being stupid is a grand strategyShart of War
so i'm guessing no ground invasion
>>2764021you'd be wrong, all in on Easter surprise
>>2763994TACO has thoroughly broken finance bros and xitter addicts
>>2764065>>2764065he knew he said a boo-boo, and backpedaled to something else.
>>2764006I would do it if the target and client were the same man
>>2764065>but the war>the war>warCan't even keep the pretense of it not being a war up lol, he's too lazy.
Currently two C-17s and one KC-135 are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were seven C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae1448,ae0509,ae1238,ae07e7,ae123c,ae0800,ae07ce,ae1242,ae144f,ae080bAnother one of those KC-135a movements from Romania.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae047a,ae02bc,ae041d,ae04ed>>2763863they have to make the plans that the president asks for even if they know they're fucking retarded and going to get every soldier killed or captured. I have to imagine that at the end, there's a note tacked on saying something like "this is a highly risky operation that could lead to heavy American casualties with little to no chance of success" etc etc
I watched a secret genius trump video that explained dugin's third rome and the greater north american technate and it's insane that both grand strategies get pwned if everyone just buys a reserve of yuan, tolerates iranian oil royalties, and normalizes relations with tehran.
>>2764119even language that simple is impenetrable Finnegans Wake type shit to Trump though.
>>2764227Can you link it pls, curious about it
>>2763968excellent reference, while a complete piece of shit in the story, its also the best character
>>2764065>uhh "btw" do we have the greatest military ever??? That course correction to mindless military praise as he realizes he's giving the game away is just beautiful lmfao. He really just lays it bare doesn't he? The most american president of all time
so, starmer will lead a 35 countries or so coallition to 'free the hormuz'?
>>2764065realized he was starting to go out of line and then snapped back lmao, the claps pure comedy
Iran bombed a amazon cloud server and promised to bomb more big tech industry no ?
beyond based if true.
>>2764286b-but trump said hormuz has nothing to do with the US!
>>2762691Is making fun of crossdressers transphobic?
>>2764382Is obsessing about transvestites gay?
>>2763968isolationism my ass. my country will not be isolationist until it is balkanized for the safety of everyone else
>>2764355have they bombed any new ones since the start of the war? they claimed they were going to but i can't find info on any new strikes on amazon or other mutt tech companies
>>2764269"b-b-b-but religion has nothing to do with it Israel is totally secular you guys" - dumbass lib
>>2762861Why is everyone forgetting about nuclear winter? All nukes are MAD because the winter of even a small scale nuclear conflict would cause millions to billions of starvation deaths and destabilize the world
>>2764390they shot at one in bahrein yesterday, they also made a announcement that they will start targeting them.
>>2764410Israel doesn't consider the holocaust to be a tragedy, but something to be learned from. They think the victims were weak and should have fought back harder. Israel wants to copy the Nazis but do it better, in order to be "strong". The parallels aren't a coincidence, they are deliberate.
>>2764280WTI didnt see a bigger impact in price because oil from the ME takes more than a full month to reach the US, that is, at the moment of closure the US effectively had more than a month's supply of middle eastern oil navigating the ocean. Not discounting manipulation totally but investors really really can't comprehend the strait of hormuz being blocked for more than 60 days
>>2764399that didn't happen after nukes were dropped in japan or tested in the american southwest and russian hinterlands
nuclear winter is a spook
>>2764399source: americo-soviet lies from the 1980s
>>2764420they bombed areas where they knew their own citizens were kept hostage. No one hates the Jewish people as much as the Israeli Knesset.
Eternal death to israel
Both sides are bad. Neither Tel Aviv nor Tehran. This is an interimperialist conflict.
>>2764423Because the wilderness and ww2-era japanese cities don't contain black carbon. Modern concrete construction means huge firestorms would loft ash into the stratosphere.
>>2764475>This is an interimperialist conflict.True but Iran is the one getting invaded.
>>2764475its very good you invented a reason to abstain timmy, now go play hockey with the stronger force.
>>2764475how is iran imperialist
>>2764475This is a hasbara post
IDF has changed their tactics from "Israel good" to "Israel bad BUT [insert Israel talking point here]"
They know Israel has become very unpopular in the states so they can't be open about their support, they have to muddy the waters with both-sides-ism
Very noticeable on reddit in particular, if you want to know what hasbara is doing look at posts on r/worldnews
>>2764504Also have you noticed a recent uptick in israel and pro-israel media criticism for the violence in the west bank by settlers.
Very big resupply effort today. Currently five C-17s are heading to MENA, and earlier today there was a
C-5, nine C-17s, two C-130s and four KC-135s.
There was also a Kuwaiti C-17, an Italian 767-200, and a French A-400.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae07d9,ae1471,ae07ff,ae07f3,ae123b,ae07ef,ae058f,ae035b,ae07a1,ae144b,ae080c,3b7766,706217,ae4f15,ae4f12,ae057d,ae080e,ae0693,33fe92,adfe85,33ffe2,ae07de,ae146c,ae1197>>2764594i guess this is the prep for trumps stone age bombing
>>2764548Israel has lost the war of words tbh. They'll never have good press again.
>>2764662how did this even happen when the biggest publications across the west are zionist sympathizers?
did they get complacent or something?
>>2764675unironically, social media.
palestinian tiktoks and livestreams of the genocide
soldiers livestreaming themselves mincing around in stolen lingerie, beheading stuffed toys, etc
>>2764743That looked like a claw for a moment
>>2764675There is a large educated proletariat
>>2764759why does he end every post with his name when it's already his username?
I tried to get a truth social account to use for trolling, but it requires a phone number. -_-;;
>>2764768because half of the time he lets his aides and advisors make posts on his behalf
>>2764768also he just fucking loves himself and the fact that he's president
Why has information about the war slowed to such a trickle
>>2762861>be China, have nukes>let everyone else nuke each other and stay out of it as usualI think India and Pakistan would nuke each other in this scenario as well. Also, France and Britain both have nukes but the graphic doesn't show them nuking each other.
So apparently the U.S. bombed one of Iran's largest bridges? What would be a proper retaliation from Iran? IIRC I think the UAE or Dubai has some major bottlenecks in infrastructure, bridges and roads that if bombed would completely wreck their society.
Any guesses on how Iran responds?
>>2764879destroy all major ports and airports in Israel
>>2764879they will team up with Greta
apparently all iran shit was banned or filtered from r/noncredibledefense cuz most of posts are either stupid internal memes, lockheed glazing, cope over chinese aircraft or ukraine glazing, and nobody mentioning iron dome being short on missiles or mentioning the historical clap that the US is taking
>>2764889r/noncrediblediplomacy seems to be making plenty of jokes on the other hand
>>2764879Iran has been waaaaay to focused on military targets. They need to repay unto Israel what they have received and begin bombing schools, hospitals, synagogues. As well as militarily insignificant settler outposts.
>>2764889they got booty blasted over that toilet meme, their minds are broken, just with every westernshit weapon worshipper.
>>2764879bomb them bottlenecks, simple as.
>>2764894Iran actually has a moral framework and an ideology that extolls just conduct in war. Bombing synagogues, hospitals, and schools in Israel will not accomplish any military goals nor bring a swift end to the war.
>>2764901Maybe not, but it would be vindicating.
>>2764907Why should Iran play fair when their opponents do not? Nice guys finish last.
>>2764909I think they need to play it smart
>>2764910Playing it smart got them here, if the rule lead to this, of what use was the rule?
>>2764901Iran says it's following an eye for a eye, which is the only law in an war, if they try to be heckin moral while appealing for memes like the international law you get the cucking out that is russia, they bombed iran ilegaly then they get ilegaly bombed by iran, simple as.
if they bemoan that is a cry just say it's retribution for prior behaviour and end at that, iran, having a meme like a moral framework create openings to be exploited, they should fix that idealism.
Just get rid of the UN at this point
>>2764909>>2764907>>2764903>>2764911>>2764913I'll try to simplify things.
Bombing schools only gives propaganda victories to the Israeli and U.S. state
>"Buh-buh-buh Israel did it to them first!"The only thing the media will do is claim Iran intentionally targeted schools and hospitals while Israel and the U.S. "made mistakes". It'll galvanize particularly the Israeli public where strikes on explicitly military targets and infrastructure can undermine support for the war.
There's no sensible argument to be made for Iran bombing schools. Zero. It's just "it will be emotionally satisfying" but that means next to nothing.
>>2764913…Only they aren't doing an eye for an eye. That would be bombing schools and museums etc. They're only targeting military installations and leaving the reactionary goblinoid civvies alone.
>>2764613irondomebros… our response?
>>2764919The israeli public is already galvanized to genocide the whole region, who gives a fuck about how they feel?
End them and be done with it once and for all
>>2764921golden dome soon
2 more weeks, to be precise
>>2764922>"End them!"Bombing schools and hospitals doesn't "End Them", certainly way less than military targets.
Again you're just arguing from a position of emotion rather than logic.
>>2764901not only are they graciously showing restraint, in the face of inhuman cruelty, they're strategically saving key infrastructural targets for the escalation ladder
>>2764925Fuck logic, logic brought us to this status quo, into the trash
>>2764919>Bombing schools only gives propaganda victories to the Israeli and U.S. statethey already have complete and total victory in these places, israeli majorly support the war, americans do anything in power for them to realise this.
>b-but americans are against-not in any way that matters, or in any what that is relevant to go against the war.
>The only thing the media will do is claim Iran intentionally targeted schools and hospitalseven if they fall by accident they do, there is no winning a propaganda war outside one's frontiers, all that Iran could do is make an annoucement and ask for evacuation as it is doing with industry regions.
>>2764928That restraint will only ever be one sided and it will only reproduce the conditions that brought us here
>>2764930they aren't going to come out on top in a slugfest
>>276492580 % of israeli are in favour of the war so bombing at random is targeting potential supporters, and because you need to go to the IDF, potential soldiers.
hate to agree with leftypols resident lib but yeah bombing schools in hospitals in retaliation is not strategically valuable. Iran should focus on infrastructure that would immediately materially facilitated the reconstruction of Israel's ability to commit war crimes. ports, airports, of course military bases as they have been doing so far.
when are mods going to ban these war crime apologists?
>>2764937schools and hospitals*
>>2764937what about them energy grids and desalination plants.
>>2764932i'm sorry but you're posting total capeshit, iran has no means to completely destroy tel aviv and this their objective is establishing deterrence, which is why they're not going all out and killing settlers en masse
>>2764938jewish negro defending the toppling of other jewish negroes.
>>2764933There are 90 million Iranians and 7 million Israelis, all the Iranians need to do is walk the same way they walked through Iraq
>>2764879The east-west pipeline in Saudia Arabia.
>>2764894sir that's a war crime
>>2764942If they had the political will they could march through Iraq and Jordan
>>2764930>Fuck logic, logic brought us to this status quo, into the trashI'm reminded of the idiocy behind Operation Barbarossa where the Germans thought by being "ruthless" and "gloves off" they'd win. Or the idiocy not just undergirding America's actions here but also the meme "we CHOSE to lose in Vietnam!"
>>2764931You still aren't making a case for bombing schools and hospitals. Its a waste of resources.
>>2764946capeshit posting
>>2764944Israel has nukes you fucking retard
>>2764950If their nukes were functional they would have used them by now.
>>2764845censorship in israel and iran doesn't seem to be doing much these days in the gulf. maybe they get a cool hit every two days or so while ziomerica keeps striking the country dozens of time every day
>>2764950Nukes aren’t real, they’re fictional
>>2764955>>2764953please end your life, retards
>>2764845idk i like it when the thread is slow and not full of shitposts
>>2764949they absolutely could. russia could also crush ukraine in a day. strategic patience and international optics are real and important
>>2764950iran could flatten israel conventionally, not to mention probably has nukes now
>>2764950 Ability to commit genocide =/= ability to win a war.
Nukes are not a magical win a war button. If they were so powerful and so easy and risk free, we would have seen more places getting nuked than Japan 80 years ago.
Also Israel is couple of water desalination plants away from collapse dying of thirst nation wide. So is every gulf country. In a sense Iran already has conventionally the means to depopulate Israel and the gulf if it wanted to and Israel can't realistically do anything about it, not even with it's nukes beside threaten retaliation.
>>2764613Aftermath of the warhead impact.
It targeted machine workshops. It was off by ~10 metres but it still destroyed most of the building and it isn't operational anymore.
>>2764972unfortunately khamenei (sp?) isn't an evil degenerate like the leaders of the west
>>2764973I hate that Hell Aviv still has skyscrapers. It should look liek gaza by now
>>2764935I'm sure having nothing but yes-men while fighting a war will do wonders.
I feel like it would be more than fair if Iran blew up a bridge in Israel, given Israel blew up one of their bridges.
Maybe they could pick one that's being used by the military frequently.
>>2764992Does Israel have many bridges
to blow up? It's not very riddled with rivers.
>>2764994There's more than a few.
Though Iran is apparently threatening to blow up bridges in any of the gulf states.
Iran threatening to blow up Amazon warehouse lol
Regime change status?
>>2765009Changed. But it's even less friendly to the West.
>>2764930why are Americans so bloodthirsty
>>2765023They are a barbaric and uncivilized people. It also overcompensates for their cowardice. That's why they always argue for high collateral strategies that do not work, and economic warfare.
>>2764975The mad bastard act only works if you are actually powerful. psychology 101, even animals do it. Puff up and make the other guy flinch so that you don't have to blow your load and risk yourself getting hurt. However, only retards and children think that being a screw loose vindictive cunt is what what real power actually looks like.
Israel is picking a fight with an adversary that has way more staying power than their prepared for a 14 day war shitstain of a country. it is bound to get strangled. Israel can of course make it a real tussle, but it won't walk away without it's throat getting slit.
>>2765039this would also spell the end of the petrodollar and US hegemony….
Were Russiagaters right all along?
If you were the head of a gulf arab state what would you be doing right now?
>>2765055pedophile island vacation
>>2765049Russiagaters assume that the American hegemony is so powerful that it can only be undermined 1) from within by American government itself and 2) deliberately.
They may be right about the first part, but they fail to consider that it will happen because of their own hubris and incompetence and not some kind of internal anti-American conspiracy.
>BREAKING: Russia, China, and France are blocking an Arab-backed push at the UN Security Council to authorize military action against Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, per NYT.
Based frogs?
>>2765082What would authorizing military action at the UN even look like compared to what's already happening?
>>2765055I would be posting memes about Dubai with the Sankara quote.
>>2765082My bet is current western european elite is just posturing while they're waiting for Trump to go away in 2 years because they really want to remain a partner of American imperialism. It's self-destructive in the long-term but it benefits their porky in the short term because they get access to foreign markets under very favorable conditions and they need that to survive against Chinese competition.
>>2765082uae is going to be so mad at this. they'll be giving so much money to the RN
>>2765091>My bet is current western European elite is just posturing while they're waiting for Trump to go away in 2 years because they really want to remain a partner of American imperialism.What American imperialism? Imperialism does not abide failure. No matter how much gaslighting and toxic positivity you try to put to it. European porky, right now, is already looking at the exits, if the US fumbles this shit.
>>2765100he probably made the mistake of saying they shouldn't bomb schools and hospitals
>>2765103Should I be buying oil futures?
>>2765091what euros don't understand is that this would've happened with any president and will keep happening no matter what. its political suicide for americans but in terms of economic interests they stand to gain the most with their oil producer rivals taken out of the market just like Russia in 2022, what a coincidence huh
>>2765109you're late but yes
>>2765099>What American imperialism? Imperialism does not abide failure.American imperialism always had plenty of failures, they lost most of their wars, but they were often successful in using other means to produce comprador governments around the world. This is what european porky benefits from.
This war with Iran looks like a point of no return to you and me but from all the behavior I'm seeing by european elite they still live in hopium land that this is a Trump-specific fuck up or that they can adapt.
And I see no serious attempt from them to break from America. When they start buying gas from Russia then I will reconsider.
>>2764935This is a big hmm
>>2765109>>2765109no, what this
>>2765103 means is that the future contracts must repay the prices of $141 the closer they get, pressuring on inflation, also making new future contracts more riskier. in short terms, the sellers have leverage on future contracts, so inflation won't be a some-months issue. it'll be a long, long term situation.
also, we are a step closer to
>forced selling>failed hedges>delivery stressthis causes a market squeeze.
>>2765124>And I see no serious attempt from them to break from America.Quantitative changes become qualitative. You should know this, since you're posting here. The first sign will be the US dollar falling very quickly, and not just against the Yuan. Things will start moving much faster from there.
>>2765133So what would be the best thing to do? Explain it to me like I'm retarded.
>>2765138put it all on black
>>2765124>American imperialism always had plenty of failures,you can indeed afford plenty of failures as an imperial hegemon, but losing your capacity to travel goods around the globe is not one of them.
>>2765138get a bike and start networking, better to know people that know people or can do things that to own cuck tokens
>>2764475Wrong. This is an interdengist conflict and Chynah is winning
>>2765138take all your saving into something harder than your local currency, or party those savings like there's no tomorrow if you have any; because this is the prelude, the presage, of some serious inflationary spiral. even the US dollar will receive a massive blow. and be prepared for a massive goods scarcity due to hoarding of finished products, specially where there's no oil (state energy) security/ oil (state energy) independency.
>>2765144So the hoarders are right for once?
>>2765008NOOOOOO MY TREATS THIS IS EVIL
>>2765148Was Pam Bomdi already fired? I wanna see that Karen get locked up
>>2765155another one biting the dust?
>>2765158yes, it's official. for the mishandling of the epstein files. if I have to guess, there were too many mentions of trump in the releases
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>>2765148She's the chief of staff… wouldn't she be in charge of… the staff? Or is her position in name only and it's actually Miller running everything?
>>2765159I love starting a war and then immediately firing all my staff, great idea, not a recipe for disaster.
>>2765159Todd Blanche was Trump's personal lawyer and was in charge of the Epstein files btw.
He's even more corrupt than Bondi.
>>2765161it's miller, levine, witkoff runing the show.
>>2765161I wouldn't be surprise if it's like Do-Not-Invite gabbard DNI's role.
>>2765175I don't believe in karma but this is the closest thing to it considering what Israeli invaders have been doing to Palestinians in the West Bank.
>>2763984I should drive around blasting this as loud as possible
>>2765171reminder that Iraq war killed only about 4500 US troops. Vietnam meanwhile killed 50,000. If this war continues as long as Vietnam did, hundreds of thousands of burger reich troops will die
>>2765171So that's why we're seeing all those military transport planes flights. They'll be packing them into coffins.
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>>2764879They should bomb the highway used for all the poop trucks in Dubai
>>2764941>what about them energy grids and desalination plantsEnergy maybe but the desalination plants are Irans nuclear option. Those go and the entire region is fucked. We’re talking tens of millions of refugees, decades to make the region habitable again if at all possible. Iran would be fine as they only rely on 2% of water from desalination. But they are prolly very hesitant to start a massive humanitarian crisis that kills hundreds of thousands and leaves 10s of millions homeless. All that labor leaving the region would also further collapse the oil markets. Thankfully Iran is a moral and rational actor on the global stage, and hopefully it doesn’t come to that
>>2765203Watch Israel do a false flag on them and blame Iran.
>>2765109Yes. And food. And ammo. And a gas mask.
>>2765103>The global economy collapses and forces the US to admit defeat and stop attacking Iran before the ground invasion even happensBeautiful
>>2765300Yeah, cool OpSec, I watched Shogun, too. When's the ground invasion, Donny?
>>2765305I bet it's probably decided, and that's why they are getting rid off the chief of staff who doesn't agree with that. same shit with the southcom generals who were put into early retirement over the decision to kidnap Maduro.
Attacking another country without declaration of war in the middle of ongoing negotiations.
Those used to be called days that would live in infamy. Now they just rhyme with words that end in -day.
>>2763633le heckin authentic politiceriños
>>2765103It's friday tomorrow. Invasion in saturday
>>2765300Pretty sure WSJ journalists knew too, but decided not to report on it to not compromise the mission
>>2765300Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham were touring for weeks before saying that Trump had privately assured them he was going to do regime change in Iran. It wasn't much of a secret at all.
>>2765300Casino gambler behavior. Week after a success in Venezuela, they just went all-in into Iran regime change, thinking they are on the roll
>>2765327They were probably in the Signal group where Hegseth planned the whole op tbh
>>2765340Boots on the ground. Most Amerilard generals probably still have enough braincells to keep the nuclear genie in his bottle.
>>2765341Can also be an argument over American inability to regime change Iran via bombs
BTW, can you imagine how horrible Putin would have looked if he instead of "cucking out" and proclaiming one-sided ceasefires kept escalating with demands? Where the fuck is Trump's off-ramp? Retard boxes himeself in into an ultimatum with full scale war
It's like, Westoids viewed Putin's kiddie gloves as inability to harm Ukraine, and acted as if Russia was ready to collapse; USA, instead, acts with an ever-increasing violence, pondering using nukes ffs, just to avoid being seen as weak
>>2765343kash hasn't been fired
>>2765348see
>>2765159, first picrel.
>>2765340What about boobs on the ground?
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>>2765343the old fat pedo turd can now sense that everyone around him is doubting or disgusted with him, so he's reducing his circle to only the most committed zionist warmongers and trump personality cultists
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