What are you guys opinion on queer anarchism?
I think I am something like this.
Pic related is a place in my hometown (Curitiba - Brazil) that I would totally make as the headquarter of my movement.
I don't know the history of it but assume it was born out of either homophobic anarchists or terfy anarcha-femmes
In general it seems like most anarchisms have adopted some element of queer theory
What's the weather like in Curitiba, Brasil today anon?
Queer sexuality is inherently neoliberal and parasitic, I say this as a bi man
>>2764833Wow, an almost-heterosexual man has an opinion on queerness! Everyone, listen to him!
>>2764839Unlike most bi men I’ve made a man my exclusive romantic partner for nine years, it’s all an escape from patriarchy the way drugs are an escape from reality, it’s temporary and fake
seems like a redundant concept to me - the queer community is already inherently anarchist from the start, with no real hierarchy to speak of and people self-identifying and governing one another's behavior as equals in a horizontal structure. marginalized groups tend to exist at the forefront of anarchist thought because they are outsiders with no place in the traditional structure of mainstream society, particularly queer people who often don't even have support from their own families. they are effectively on their own and forced to figure everything out for themselves in terms of finding likeminded people and establishing solidarity.
>>2764843When are you planning to dump him for a woman?
>>2764847I’m not, having a kid would ruin my life
I don’t like anarchism and all of it’s messy sub ideologies (liberalism). And you rarely see communists using redundant names like “queer communism”.
>>2764843is he also bi?
Are you the kind of bi that only tops?
>>2764849Your life is already ruined until further notice
>>2764849In 5 years you will feel your life is being ruined by dating a man and you will run to get a woman to feel better about yourself
>>2764855The opposite, he’s a gay top and I’m a bi bottom, I’m attracted to women but actually penetrating during sex doesn’t feel good
>>2764859Too many sunken costs at this point
>>2764857That’s Benjamin Netanyahu’s fault, not mine
>>2764832It is warm and sunny.
>>2764833You sound like Che Guevara saying homosexuality is "burgueoisie". It is just being dumb about human sexuality and prejudicial. Socialism must not be based on such behaviors.
>>2764854Maoism, Marxism-Leninism, Trotskyism, Luxembourgism, Eurocommunism, etc.
c'mon now
>>2764871It existed before bourgeois relations but was always an upper class thing, just like romance, peasants and hunter gatherers NEEDED to have kids just to have enough labor around for their social unit.
>>2764872Most of those aren’t redundant, and the last one is more of a trend than a specific ideology
>>2764874Shut the fuck up, dumbfuck.
Why are marxists so dumb and prejudicial?
>>2764880mtf x ftm couples are cute but let’s not pretend they’re gonna be the basis of a new society
>>2764882Queer is much more than that.
Queer is an existential threat to society and will always be. Marxists can't understand queerness because they relativize oppression when it is commited by the poor.
>>2764888So is climate change, should we embrace exxon mobil as revolutionary?
>>2764888I’m gonna need you to define queerness, if it’s not sexual and gender minorities idk what you’re referring to
>>2764890Queer is fair existential threat.
>>2764892Queerness is the quality of a person, a group or anything that defies gender and sexuality normativity (cis-heteronormativity, patriarchy) etc.
>>2764897I’m not seeing anything positive here, just pure negation
>>2764900Queer is a way of being that denies hierarchical gender or sexual norms. It doesn't need to have anything "positive", it just is.
>>2764912Men sexually dominating each other wouldn’t qualify then, gay men and trans people reproduce straight norms and dynamics all the time
>>2764821is that all it takes to make you cringe is the word "queer"? what are you, a mormon or something?
>>2764914Men having sex with mem is queer because it violates the heterosexual norm.
I get what you're talking about, but it will never be the same thing. being queer is also defying traditional views of what sexuality and gernder should be.
>>2764914The people obsessed with being queer (specifically "politically queer") unironically agree with that yes, they go into autists contest about who is the most hetero-divergent
>>2764914Does that mean that bottoms are more revolutionary than tops?
>>2764934>>2764914I am gay, and I think the most nice thing about being gay is the power of equality.
Domination in gay relationships tend to be performances.
>>2764948Tops can be queer, straight people can be queer.
Anyone can be queer, my friend.
>>2764927Was Thomas Sankara “queering” up Burkina Faso when he ordered married men to shop and cook on international women’s day?
>>2764956No, straight people cannot be queer. Queerness is more than getting a septum piercing and dying your hair.
>>2764964So ftm and mtf couples aren’t queer, lesbians that sleep with pre srs transwomen aren’t queer
>>2764960Yes, changing traditional gender roles is being queer.
But that itself is not enough.
>>2764964Straight people who are asexual or perform in ways that can be consideres "gay" or queer are queer.
what does being a faggot have to do with politics?
>>2764964Women who look like men, mem who look or act (or feel) like women.
That's all being queer.
>>2764969What are politics to you?
>>2764833>Queer sexuality is inherently neoliberal and parasiticLGBT identity politics certainly is, but not necessarily queer. The second sense of the word queer is anything that resists or disturbs established structures e.g. bisexuality destabilizes the hetero-homo binary while gay identity is accepted. There are hordes of men out there with sexual behaviors that don't fit the acceptable LGBT model, in the queer theory sense of the term, they could be seen as queer. In this sense, queer and anarchist go together well. That said, this can all lead to an obsession with sex acts instead of sane political thinking and moron academics who think they are radical because they like anal or something.
>>2764846>the queer community is already inherently anarchist from the start, with no real hierarchy to speak of and people self-identifying and governing one another's behavior as equals in a horizontal structure.Bullshit. Some people are valued more than others. The LGBT community is notoriously racist and prejudiced towards minorities and there's a pecking order where gay men sit at the top and everyone else at the bottom. Its also, like that other anon said, neoliberal and parasitic, obsessed with consumerism and supportive of shit like surrogacy for gay couples (human trafficking). It isn't squeaky clean at all.
>>2764978Surrogacy doesn’t necessarily have to be human trafficking, that’s why the Cuban family code allows for solidarity surrogacies, within the family
>>2764968>asexualWho gives a fuck. Asexuals have never been discriminated against other than the times that they were mistaken for gay.
>>2764978That's because everyone loves the joie de vivre and sassy observations that gay men add to the mix.
>>2764981You mean mannerisms they stole from Black women
>>2764981I don't like the idea of centering human condition in reproduction roles. That's where all the idea of lgbt being "degenerate" comes from.
>>2764985It’s literally why any biological organism exists you fucking idiot
>i base my politics on identitarian post modern individualism
this will never achive anything meaningful for queer
>>2764988And after they are born they can do whatever they want with their lives. We are not reproduction machines.
>>2764978>Bullshit. Some people are valued more than others. The LGBT community is notoriously racist and prejudiced towards minorities and there's a pecking order where gay men sit at the top and everyone else at the bottom. Its also, like that other anon said, neoliberal and parasitic, obsessed with consumerism and supportive of shit like surrogacy for gay couples (human trafficking). It isn't squeaky clean at all.and do you have any real non-anecdotal evidence to support these claims?
>>2764995This is why Marxist Leninists outside the crypto nazi GDR rightfully banned you and your practices
>>2764991Post modern individualism can be good if you know what to do with it.
>>2764999Why do you care about marx and lenin lmao
dead grandpas
No opinion, but I deeply despise the poster w that flag, and all the liberal/social-democrat garbage ties to it and the lgbt community in general tollerates.
>Inb4 straight
Fag, checkmate.
>>2764988>>2764999Humans have the brains to not be slaves to our to our genetics.
See
>>770571 >>2765034mendeloid nonsense. genes do not completely specify species-being
>>2765073the only reason you want to reproduce is due to multicellular instinct.
It's because we don't have true immortality like unicellulars.
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