How do you as Marxists reconcile your immense loss when you consider that next to one even thinks about class when it comes to explaining societal problems? At best they consider how much money people make, which isn’t a Marxian conception of class. So, if the very core of your theory is not even considered, how will socialism be successful? You talk about “the right conditions” but will “the right conditions” just magically endow people with the thinking that owners of the means of production are the problem? Why was the idea not even taken seriously for so long then? It seems like when shit hits the fan people will be more inclined to believe it’s only billionaires who are the problem, or Jews, or non-whites, or communists, ironically enough.
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(Reactionary) >>2767771I would snap your neck but a strong wind would beat me to it if you were ever outsie
>>2767773I already told you, meet in Taxqueña subway station, Mexico City you set the date and time.
>>2767776The EZLN will march to Mexico city before I can get there sorry
>>2767776Can you drop already the Mexican act? Just admit you're Canadian
>>2767790>EZLNthey are no longer relevant, anon.
>le people are le dumb
Class consciousness is the party, it doesn't exist outside of it. Read Lenin and abandon your idealism
Retards still believing in spontaneity xd
>>2767966>Read Lenin>>2767970Read Marx and Engels
>>2767989
Okay dude
>>2767974Good posts
>>2767966Bad post
>>2767974Marx and Engels famously believed in spontaneity and a mystical "class consciousness" … that's why they established the first communist party in history
>>2767994>t. Believes in a metaphysical class consciousness Drop the false flaggot
>>2767999
Hang my balls on your face
>>2768002Go to Marxists.org, use the search page and type "union consciousness"
You're welcome, try studying theory before spamming your american fetish on here, you bring us a bad rep.
>>2768006
I refuse to allow the barista discussion
>>2768007You seem to believe I deny the necessity of the party, you are wrong.
>>2768013
>Waste of resources
Subhuman Kaczynskist detected, drop yourself off a bridge and stop wasting valuable resources
>>2768015
Recommend me a left-communist party in Mexico City, I asked in /latam/ and didn't get an answer
>>2768010
Not having it
>>2768013
Communal food (restaurants, canteens) is actually more resource-efficient (economy of scale, just like a factory is more efficient than an artisan) than petty-bourgeois individualistic cooking. This is observable in the very personal kitchen with the phemonemon of: "batch cooking"
>>2768012Class consciousness doesn't exist outside the party. It's not a mystical feeling developed spontaneously that eventually leads to revolution once enough people join the hivemind. The proletariat has exist for hundreds of years yet it took Marx to point out how to resolve the fundamental contradiction between worker and owner.
Actually talk to people and not embrace the right's caricature of a leftist. Activists who think they will become the face of the socialist uprising just by yelling cold takes piss me off.
>>2768032Next time you post a picture can you embed your GPS information on it? your exif metadata is useless abd baren
>>2768044If your GF is bourgeois why are you still working?
>>2768045My GF is not bourgeois, she doesn't own property or industry
>>2768048Isn't her family bourgeois
>>2768038Class consciousness does exist outside the party, as such class consciousness was necessary to exist to form the first international
>>2768044I spend my socially necessarily labor time making r/ultraleft memes
>>2768045I wish my GF was bourgeois. I need an Engels in my life.
>>2768041I looked into it, apparently the anon's name is "kamadak".
>>2768049No, his father is a farmer. He benefited from ejido
>>2768051>I spend my socially necessarily labor time making r/ultraleft memesWhy
>>2768051Kys retarded redditor
>>2768058Because I can get away with it and it's therapeutic
>>2768063>it's therapeuticWhy
>>2768062Reddit is a prole website unlike this lumpen shithole
>>2768064It gives me the illusion of making something as means of expression and being connected to my species being or somet
>>2768065Reddit sucks taint
>>2768065Reddit is literally and American website and the majority of the userbase is American
>>2768076It’s also annoyingly electorialist
>>2767271Yes, but they have a childish view of what rich means
For example, rich people don't deal in money, they deal in assets and expenditure of the capabilities of those assets. Money might as well be shit left over from dinosaurs eating up all the food. That's essentially what money is. We know this because banks can oh so easily freeze accounts, ignore debts, print more, meanwhile they think some taxes or more funds for poor communities is going to solve a damn thing.
You're not physically going to take over industry and the bourgeois isn't going to just give it to you willingly. Revolution is a power fantasy and reforms are a nightmare induced by the weak.
>>2768146
your poltardation is showing
>>2768108I do not disagree with that, the point is that you see class consioussness even in its infancy, proving OP wrong
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