How exactly does one avoid being purged after a communist revolution?
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
Cynical political maneuvering an manipulation the same way you would through any feudal house or liberal party
just leave the communist party immediately after the revolution, and dont be a art*st
>>2784827
Tell me 1 left wing revolution that didn't purge itself after coming to power
just don't take any envelopes of cash from the CIA, Mi6 or the mossad
>>2784836But the guys in charge will just fabricate evidence that i did.
>>2784834
well libs also purged themselves when they had their bourgeois revolutions, back when libs were actually "left" wing relative to feudalism
>>2784842Yep
The accusations during the reign of terror in France and the great purge in the ussr are pretty similar
I mean Kollontai was literally a member of the worker's opposition and wasn't purged just for not actively getting involved in party infighting. in the 30s USSR it honestly seems pretty easy to avoid as long as your not involved in CPSU infighting, join a dissident group or get caught for corruption.
>>2784821By being a liberal
Don't make any big waves.
>>2784920The weak should fear the strong
>>2784837>>2784836Even if you accept the official version of events presented by the Soviet government, they were still "misled" into purging a bunch of innocent people, which is why they eventually turned on Yezhov. Such rehabilitation is just another example of things Stalin was already doing which people later seethe at Khruschev about.
git gud
>>2784821Don't construct a system where a purge is even allowed. Vanguardists need to give up on the one-party-state thing, it does nothing but produce more despotism.
Just don't be a fascist-collaborator, organizing murderous sabotage gangs throughout the country in order to weaken the productive forces right before a genocidal invasion. Should be simple enough.
>>2784858Except Danton was indeed a corrupt fuck who accepted bribe after bribe.
>>2784949>Vanguardists need to give up on the one-party-state thing, it does nothing but produce more despotism.Asking Vanguardists to give up their the only proven successful model for seizing power is just as naive as asking the current ruling class to give up their power voluntarily.
>>2785020> organizing murderous sabotage gangs throughout the country in order to weaken the productive forces unless you're in the imperial core. then it's communist to do this
Keep your head down and don't make a fuss. Or be Semyon Budyonny
>>2785031>Keep your head down and don't make a fuss.This is a big ask when you're talking about people who couldn't do that under the previous system LOL.
>>2785021>history isn't written by the victoriousanon, i declare you're corrupt and receive bribes, and if you deny it, it is only proof of your guilty. after you are executed for treason i will right a million histories with fabricated evidence of your malfeasance and everyone will quote it as scripture.
idk why i'm saying any of this other than to be pedantic, i actually have zero opinion of whether danton was actually corrupt or not, and I have since forgotten most of the stuff i once learned about the french revolution because my brain is fucking dog shit >>2784821Purging opportunists is necessary due to the infiltration of liberals, reformists, nationalists, reactionaries, and class conciliators. Furthermore, the more responsibility a worker has in a socialist state, the more severe the punishments to protect the supremacy of the proletarian class. A problem that exists among so-called "left" communists is pretending to be more revolutionary in their idealism and naiveté, making it easier for the bourgeoisie and imperialists to intervene against the dictatorship of the proletariat and the supremacy of the proletariat. This romanticizes spontaneity and avoids the need to use force against those who impede the socialization of the economy and the use of state capitalism to encourage cooperatives to prepare peasants for the socialization of the economy, especially in a country that is backward with an economy partly based on small-scale, isolated, and underdeveloped peasant production. This can lead to unnecessary conflict, requiring the poorest rural workers to align themselves with the proletariat and avoid being co-opted by prosperous peasants and their apologists who will invent excuses and hide their counter-revolutionary intentions.
If you are concerned about purges, then you are already falling for capitalist propaganda and bourgeois agents who want to prevent the revolutionary terror necessary in a communist revolution. Therefore, you are not acting as a revolutionary socialist because you fear chaos and fail to recognize the necessity of using violence in the revolution to consolidate the dictatorship of the proletariat, socialize the economy, and prevent the actions of imperialists and their agents against the supremacy of the proletarian class until the state withers away with the global victory of socialism and the resolution of the contradictions in society that lead to the state's violent force existing as an entity separate from the population.
>>2784949Wrong. Purging and the use of revolutionary terror are how the dictatorship of the proletariat is maintained. Complacency, apathy, and a lack of revolutionary fervor lead to defeat by exposing weaknesses for the enemy class to exploit. The state is an instrument for one class to oppress another, arising from the irreconcilability of social classes in a class society. Opportunism is expected to appear through infiltration and must be resolved with violence.
<We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. But the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of God and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.
<Karl Marx, Final Issue Neue Rheinische Zeitung May 1849, Suppression of the Neue Rheinische Zeitunghttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1849/05/19c.htm
<While this utopian doctrinaire socialism, which subordinates the total movement to one of its stages, which puts in place of common social production the brainwork of individual pedants and, above all, in fantasy does away with the revolutionary struggle of the classes and its requirements by small conjurers' tricks or great sentimentality, while this doctrinaire socialism, which at bottom only idealizes present society, takes a picture of it without shadows, and wants to achieve its ideal athwart the realities of present society; while the proletariat surrenders this socialism to the petty bourgeoisie; while the struggle of the different socialist leaders among themselves sets forth each of the so-called systems as a pretentious adherence to one of the transit points of the social revolution as against another – the proletariat rallies more and more around revolutionary socialism, around communism, for which the bourgeoisie has itself invented the name of Blanqui. This socialism is the declaration of the permanence of the revolution, the class dictatorship of the proletariat as the necessary transit point to the abolition of class distinctions generally, to the abolition of all the relations of production on which they rest, to the abolition of all the social relations that correspond to these relations of production, to the revolutionizing of all the ideas that result from these social relations.
<Karl Marx, The Class Struggles in France, (1848 to 1850)https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1850/class-struggles-france/ch03.htm >>2785040>Purging opportunists is necessary due to the infiltration of liberals, reformists, nationalists, reactionaries, and class conciliators. Except that it didn't do that and directly to their taking power the minute Stalin was dead.
>>2785040>If you are concerned about purges, then you are already falling for capitalist propaganda "The working class is the best because of their common sense pragmatism and wisdom to struggle according to their material interests…wait no, not like that!!!"
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