Interimperialist war
>>2790122Iran hasn't been an empire for a while now.
>>2790122one empire is worse tho
>2 more weeks: The war
>>2790142Sit on my patio and burn to a crisp in the sun
>>2790142I am really anxious about this basically every single day, it's going to get fucking bad, isn't it?
>>2790142I'm stocking up on glp1 peptides to deal with the hunger. Modern problems require modern solutions.
Everything will stay the same, we will remain slaves to capital, from birth to death.
You will stay an economic unit till the end of time
>>2790159>WatchI keep clicking but nothing is happening?
USA be like "given everything we've done to them, if the Iranians weren't building a nuke before they definitely are now therefore we must wage war against them"
>>2790159could osama bin laden be hiding in a london apartment with obama bin barack?????
Bombing apparently resumed.
Not seen a real source yet though.
>>2790142Thank Marx im LatinX(e) and food is infinie here
>>2790183according to telegram channel middle east spectator it was false alarm, just air defense testing.
Behind the scenes, US-Iran are ‘negotiating on returning to negotiations’Former US General Mark Kimmitt told Al Jazeera earlier that “back channel” talks are taking place between the US and Iran, which are likely focused on “negotiating on returning to negotiations”.
“There are front channel messages coming from all sides. Different elements inside of Iran have different views and are not shy about announcing them, which we haven’t seen in the past with Iran because there was always message discipline,” Kimmitt said.
“By contrast, in the United States, we only have one person who can make the messages and tell the messages without any fear of contradiction,” he said.
“Unfortunately, he’s got many opinions on a daily basis,” he added.
https://aje.news/252c85?update=4515014 >>2790187uygha u dumb
in case it comes down to the apocalyptic predictions some are saying, the US will force all the food from latam to go to the US and they'll face 0 opposition because 9 out of 10 governments there are coup'd comprador shitholes
>>2790188there's a lot of talk lately about how much of the US weapons stocks have been used, like 50% of a lot of important things have already been used up/wasted. i think there's a lot of people in the US thinking they have to stop this and stop the bleeding of munitions stocks. So there's some pressure against restarting a bombing campaign, but you never know, trump may just keep doubling down anyway.
>>2790142>Famine caused by the Epstein Regimethey're calling it The Pedodomor
>>2790212 (samefag)
This implies cattle traders have not priced in any semblance of the ceasefire breaking.
There are no planes currently heading to MENA. Earlier today there were thirteen C-17s, one A-330 and one A-319.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae68a7>>2790194> the US will force all the food from latam to go to the US and they'll face 0 opposition because 9 out of 10 governments there are coup'd comprador shitholesUS imperialism works until you starve all the brown people who grow your food
>>2790244For no reason whatsoever, the people vote for a communist leader, and when said communist ruler gets disposed of, they rebel.
>>2790159I can't be the only one who believes this is obviously for purposes of espionage right?
>>2790267London properties are a famous way internationals store wealth without many questions.
Le interimperialist conflict
>>2790267you dropped your "fell for the national bourgeoisie again" award
>>2790349You think he's gonna go on a harem shopping spree in England.
>>2790159>imagine believing western press about X leader owning X property on X rich place.and it's always
this report couldn't be verified independently or like this
Motjaba isn't directly named in the documents, we made the stretchhow many Fidel Castros need to exist for you to understand they run the same
40 beheaded baked babies but with
luxury properties on each leader they don't like.
>>2790361Just like I predicted. ez
American ships need to get in range of Iranian missiles to intercept, and India doesn't give a shit, they want their oil.
>>2790347is anyone even listening to this shit anymore?
are countries learning the lesson that they should have nuclear weapons?
>>2790374mother of god, that can't be real…
*proceeds to check truthsocial*
… it's fucking real.
>>2790374Did he AI generate that text?
>>2790347Wtf even he knows how bad it looks
>>2790374trump is our nero
Why the fuck is there a fake article in the op?
>>2790405you will read the cia's fake articles and stay informed
israeli media has no confidence in Netanyahu and no confidence in Trump
>Netanyahu’s decision to hitch Israel’s future to Trump means Israel’s security is no longer in its own hands. Instead, it has been outsourced to a US president whose ability to see strategies through to completion is very much in question.
>But Israel’s military power has also been put in check by Trump, who seems to believe that reaching formal ceasefires solves complex problems and has refused to tear them up even when their terms are publicly flouted by adversaries.
>Israel’s leverage at the negotiating table is diluted by Trump’s decision to put talks in the hands of dilettante diplomats like Witkoff, who are easily swayed by empty promises.
>As the Islamic Republic thumbs its nose at Trump, refusing to open the strait or even show up to talks with the US vice president, he repeatedly extends deadlines and undermines the credibility of his threats — while placing his trust, and Israel’s security, in the hands of Pakistani leaders with long-standing ties to the Taliban and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.
<But until he can show the Israeli public that he is a prime minister who is brave enough to say “No” to Trump — and deal with the potential fallout — making good on such promises may remain out of his hands.https://www.timesofisrael.com/repeatedly-deferring-to-trump-netanyahu-subjects-israeli-security-to-us-presidents-whim/>On August 26, 2020, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gave a speech, saying that "in our civilization, conquest is not occupation or looting. It is establishing the dominance of the justice that Allah commanded in the region. First of all, our nation removed the oppression from the areas that it conquered. It established justice. This is why our civilization is one of conquest. Turkey will take what is its right in the Mediterranean Sea, in the Aegean Sea, and in the Black Sea.
we're gonna have Greater Israel vs Neo-Ottoman Empire wars by 2030
>>2790405retard jannies that think this shit is fine.
>>2790512Climate change prevents all of this. At the end of day, it either be that communism succeeds, or we will all be dead or dying. No state on earth will be able to adapt, but the proletariat on the other hand…
>>2790374>>2790543 (me)
oh it's because it's the transcript from a pundit's show
>>2790545he's definitely done that for real too however
>>2790522>>2790405the OP laughs at it and explicitly calls it fake in the third image. use context clues.
>>2790385does he? this dude thinks his own shit smelsl good
>>2790554>the OP laughs at it and explicitly calls it fake in the third image. use context clues.It's a bit confusing anon, considering he posted it multiple times including multiple OPs. Fake-news anon feels the need to spam his little projects across half the board.
This article is 10/10. Worth reading in full. The author is very articulate and truly understands all the layers to what liberals do. These are some key parts I liked
>The Limits of Liberal Solidarity Situated in a Settler-Colonial ContextSettler colonialism is not a historical event; it is a persistent structure.Footnote89 Decolonizing a settler-colonial state cannot be reduced to symbolic gestures or rhetorical commitments. It demands land repatriation, reparations, recognition of indigenous sovereignty, and the dismantling of colonial institutions – legal, educational, economic, and military.Footnote90
In contexts such as the United States, Canada, or Australia, the reduction of the natives to a very marginal minority violently or through assimilation and the temporal distance from the original moment of colonization has often rendered decolonial policies only marginally transformative for the settler population as a whole. Even when such policies involve land restitution, reparations, or the restoration of limited forms of sovereignty, they seldom disrupt the foundational structures or everyday lives of the settler majority. By contrast, the case of Israel/Palestine represents a radically different configuration. There, decolonization entails immediate, tangible, and deeply personal consequences for the settler population.
The core of decolonization in Palestine lies in the right of return for refugees. The Palestine Land Society, under Salman Abu Sitta, has developed detailed, viable plans for refugee return – many designed in consultation with refugees themselves.Footnote91 In this context, the native can still look into the eyes of the settler occupying their family’s home. Decolonization would require dismantling all structures that have sustained Israel’s domination and accepting a profound demographic, political, and institutional transformation between the river and the sea. It requires Israeli Jews to renounce their role as masters and accept the imperative of sharing power with Palestinians across all major societal institutions – institutions that would necessarily be restructured within a post-colonial framework.
However, Israeli liberal elites have demonstrated an unwillingness to bear the personal costs of decolonization. This is why some critics of the war – who initially hesitated to adopt the language of genocide despite months of a livestreamed apocalyptic destruction – have argued that the war was not genocidal from the outset, but that a genocidal threshold was crossed as it progressed. In January 2024, Israeli legal scholar Itamar Mann wrote: “[a]fter hearing South Africa’s arguments, many lawyers (including myself) speculated that, even if the provisional measure is granted, the likelihood of Israel being held responsible for genocide at the end of the day is small.“Footnote92 By June 2025, Mann was willing to publicly state that Israel is committing genocide and critiqued those who describe its actions as “almost genocide,” warning that this approach – promoted by Kai Ambos, Stefanie Bock,Footnote93 and others – “risks creating an ever-receding horizon of state responsibility.”Footnote94 However, he introduces an important caveat, arguing that genocidal intent “does not necessarily pop, prefabricated, out of the perpetrator’s state’s head. It emerges – gradually, often unevenly – as a product of action, omission, emotion, and political opportunity.”Footnote95
In other words, his main contention is that Israel’s war on Gaza was not genocidal from the outset. Rather, “contrary to some commentators,” he maintains that the onslaught on Gaza “initially had a legal justification. Even if it was not wise to attack Gaza before negotiating a hostage deal, there was no legal imperative not to do so after the Hamas attack of 7 October 2023.”Footnote96 Likewise, in his July 2025 New York Times op-ed, Bartov argued that the genocide threshold was crossed around May 2024, when the Israeli military ordered approximately one million Palestinians sheltering in Rafah to relocate to the coastal area of al-Mawasi – an exposed zone offering little to no shelter or infrastructure. The army subsequently launched a large-scale assault that devastated much of Rafah, a campaign largely completed by August. For Bartov, this marked a decisive turning point, signalling a shift from extreme violence to actions indicative of genocidal intent: from war to genocide.Footnote97
Mann rightly argues that the “identification of transformations [from non-genocidal intent to a genocidal one] may reveal how we think about state violence, civilian vulnerability, and the permissible thresholds of military conduct,” as it serves as a “litmus test for our moral and political preferences.”Footnote98 I agree.
Indeed, the notion of evolving intent is not controversial among historians, including those who study the Holocaust. As Amos Goldberg observes, historians “understand that intent is dynamic, non-linear, and full of contradictions and complexities.”Footnote99 At the same time, Goldberg underscores the difference between the concept of intent in historical research and its application in legal scholarship, noting: “The law requires a moment at which the mental component … matches the action … and the two elements coalesce to constitute the crime of genocide.”Footnote100 Thus, when legal scholars sever the connection between the current genocidal moment in Gaza and the continuous eliminatory logic of the Nakba, they inevitably reshape how we understand justice, reparations, and guarantees of non-repetition. Therefore, the denial of the genocidal character of Israel’s military offensive from the outset – and the decision to adopt a progressive-evolution theory instead – constitutes, at its core, a moral question.
Denying that the Israeli offensive was genocidal from the outset – and thereby severing it from the Nakba and Israel’s settler-colonial formation – is striking, particularly given that Israeli officials and politicians themselves often acknowledge this connection. As Segal observes, there has been a shift “from Nakba denial as a structural element in Israel and the West since the 1948 Nakba to a discourse that admits the Nakba as an ongoing process.”Footnote101 This is evident in statements such as those of Israeli cabinet minister Avi Dichter, who described the genocide in Gaza as the “second Nakba” and the “Gaza Nakba.”Footnote102 The failure to recognize the current genocide as a continuation of the settler-colonial logic of elimination is also reflected in discourses that obscure the different ways Israel has pursued the goal of eradicating the Palestinian people – including through the imposition of a decades-long apartheid regime developed under the auspices of Zionist settler colonialism. Bartov is an example of this discourse, arguing that “I am deeply worried that Israel will persist on its disastrous course, remaking itself, perhaps irreversibly, into a full-blown authoritarian apartheid state.”Footnote103 By contrast, as Mark LeVine and Eric Cheyfitz remind us:
In a foundational, ontological sense … [Palestinians] experienced the genocidal future in the colonial violence of the past-present. What they have suffered in relentless violence … throughout the history of Zionist colonization was, then, not merely the anticipation of genocide to come, but – like the receding waters as a tsunami gathers force and energy on the horizon – the first phase of a genocide already in-the-making whose fullest force has now hit shore.Footnote104
Among the first to identify the eliminatory logic of the Zionist settler-colonial project in Palestine was the Palestinian diplomat and intellectual Fayez Sayegh. In his seminal 1965 work Zionist Colonialism in Palestine, Sayegh observed that “Zionist colonisation could not possibly assume the physical proportions envisaged by Zionism while the Arab people of Palestine continued to inhabit its homeland.”Footnote105 Patrick Wolfe would later theorize this dynamic as the logic of elimination, arguing that:
The logic of elimination not only refers to the summary liquidation of Indigenous people, though it includes that. In common with genocide as Raphael Lemkin characterized it, settler colonialism has both negative and positive dimensions. Negatively, it strives for the dissolution of native societies. Positively, it erects a new colonial society on the expropriated land base – as I put it, settler colonizers come to stay: invasion is a structure not an event. In its positive aspect, elimination is an organizing principal of settler-colonial society rather than a one-off (and superseded) occurrence.Footnote106
Understanding the genocide in Gaza as a continuation of the eliminatory logic inherent in Zionist settler colonialism reorients both the analytical and political focus. It situates decolonization as the process of addressing and remedying the full consequences of the Nakba. Most importantly, it challenges the historical marginalization of the security and survival of the Indigenous Palestinian population subjected to this logic, while at the same time undermining Israel’s claim to permanent security premised on military and demographic domination. As Judge Tladi has observed in his separate declaration in the Advisory opinion on the Legal Consequences Arising from the Policies and Practices of Israel in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, Including East Jerusalem (July 2024):
[W]hen addressing security concerns, it should be recalled that all States, and not just Israel, have security interests. This includes Palestine. Often, when the “security concerns” claim is made, it is as if only Israel has security concerns or that somehow, Israel’s security concerns override those of Palestine’s. The second general point to make is that security interests as such, no matter how serious or legitimate, cannot override rules of international law, a point made by the Court.Footnote107
Within this framework, the right of return for Palestinian refugees emerges not only as a legal and moral imperative but as a structural necessity – one that many liberal Israelis deeply fear, as it threatens the foundational assumptions of the Zionist project. For example, in his exchange with Martin Shaw regarding the implications of the 1948 ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, Bartov understood and objected to the decolonizing power of return:
[T]here was and remains a relationship between the Palestinian right of return and the very existence of the State of Israel, which is entirely absent from the case of other expelled peoples. Exercising the right of return would mean the end of Israel as a Jewish state.Footnote108
Beyond implicitly justifying Israel’s pursuit of permanent security, Israeli liberal elites are so deeply embedded in their colonial privileges that they resist not only the prospect of a decolonized future in which they would lose their demographic and political dominance, but also the forfeiture of their own individual privileges – privileges that are structurally rooted in, and sustained by, the ongoing dispossession of the Palestinian people.
The same intellectuals who refrain from using the term genocide also oppose – or remain silent on – the academic and cultural boycott of Israeli institutions. The prohibitions on genocide, crimes against humanity (including apartheid), and war crimes all constitute peremptory norms of international law, known also as jus cogens.Footnote109 The same applies to the violation of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people. Breaches of these jus cogens norms entail significant legal consequences.Footnote110 The complicity of Israeli academic institutions in the oppression of the Palestinian people is well documented. It is evident, first, in their deep entanglement with the military-industrial complex and in the production of knowledge that normalizes violence against Palestinians, while providing legal justifications to shield Israel from international accountability.Footnote111
It is visible, second, in the systematic suppression of dissenting voices both within and beyond their institutional boundaries.Footnote112 The UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem – while analyzing the legal consequences of the International Court of Justice’s July 2024 Advisory Opinion on the illegality of Israel’s continued presence in the OPT – concluded that “States shall not render aid or assistance to educational, academic, research or cultural activities that support or maintain the unlawful occupation.”Footnote113
Yet, liberal academics continue to employ a range of discursive strategies to legitimize their opposition to sanctions, even in the face of what Francesca Albanese has described as “one of the cruelest genocides in modern history.”Footnote114 One common argument is that such boycotts are counterproductive, as they might undermine dissent within Israeli academia. For instance, in its response to being suspended from the International Sociological Association, the Israeli Sociological Association acknowledged internal disagreement: while some members regarded the suspension as a legitimate measure, others viewed it as a “misdirected punishment” as it “risks weakening one of the few remaining sites of critical resistance within Israeli society and may inadvertently strengthen right-wing efforts to suppress academic freedom.”Footnote115
Yet it is an indisputable fact that what passes for “dissent” in these institutions has largely served to furnish them with a liberal façade, thereby legitimizing their continued, unimpeded participation in the development, maintenance, and refinement of Israel’s apparatus of oppression.Footnote116
More perversely, some invoke the presence of Palestinian academics within Israeli institutions as a reason to resist boycott measures, claiming that such actions would also harm them – thereby using Palestinians facing intimidation, marginalization, and discrimination within Israeli universities to shield Israeli academia from accountability.Footnote117 If Israeli elites cannot tolerate even the most basic accountability measures aimed at halting the ongoing grotesque violence against Palestinians, how could they ever accept full-fledged decolonization? The answer, it seems, is obvious.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2025.2556564#d1e501>>2790524since when did communists cared about the environment?
>>2790595 (me)
Only people who do*
>>2790405op deserves the bullet.
>>2790122You are being completely ignorant; economic sovereignty is progressive and useful for communists to advance the revolution, seize the means of production, and avoid sanctions.
Let's look at Lenin's position on what imperialist capitalism is with a quote:
<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:
<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is completed. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed.
<Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, 1916, VII. Imperialism as a Special Stage of capitalism.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch07.htmNow let's look at his position on the types of countries as examples at the time Lenin wrote about the self-determination of nations and capitalist imperialism:
<6. Three Types of Countries in Relation to Self-Determination of Nations<In this respect, countries must be divided into three main types:
<First, the advanced capitalist countries of Western Europe and the United States of America. In these countries the bourgeois, progressive, national movements came to an end long ago. Every one of these “great” nations oppresses other nations in the colonies and within its own country. The tasks of the proletariat of these ruling nations are the same as those of the proletariat in England in the nineteenth century in relation to Ireland.
<Secondly, Eastern Europe: Austria, the Balkans and particularly Russia. Here it was the twentieth century that particularly developed the bourgeois-democratic national movements and intensified the national struggle. The tasks of the proletariat in these countries—in regard to the consummation of their bourgeois-democratic reformation, as well as in regard to assisting the socialist revolution in other countries—cannot be achieved unless it champions the right of nations to self-determination. In this connection the most difficult but most important task is to merge the class struggle of the workers in the oppressing nations with the class struggle of the workers in the oppressed nations.
<Thirdly, the semi-colonial countries, like China, Persia, Turkey, and all the colonies, which have a combined population amounting to a billion. In these countries the bourgeois-democratic movements have either hardly begun, or are far from having been completed. Socialists must not only demand the unconditional and immediate liberation of the colonies without compensation—and this demand in its political expression signifies nothing more nor less than the recognition of the right to self-determination—but must render determined support to the more revolutionary elements in the bourgeois-democratic movements for national liberation in these countries and assist their rebellion—and if need be, their revolutionary war—against the imperialist powers that oppress them.
<V. I. Lenin, The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination, 1916https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htmNow, regarding the issue of wars and the opportunists who obscure the truth by trying to defend imperialist capitalist finance capital that maintains dependency to intensify exploitation, like what you are doing to deceive the masses into not cutting off and sabotaging the imperialist core of weapons, loans, money, aid, and foreign intervention to keep the puppets of finance capital and subjugate other countries to dependence on finance capital, then I leave you with this quote:
<In short: a war between imperialist Great Powers (i.e., powers that oppress a whole number of nations and enmesh them in dependence on finance capital, etc.), or in alliance with the Great Powers, is an imperialist war. Such is the war of 1914–16. And in this war “defence of the fatherland” is a deception, an attempt to justify the war.
<A war against imperialist, i.e., oppressing, powers by oppressed (for example, colonial) nations is a genuine national war. It is possible today too. “Defence of the fatherland” in a war waged by an oppressed nation against a foreign oppressor is not a deception. Socialists are not opposed to “defence of the fatherland” in such a war.
<V. I. Lenin, A Caricature of Marxism and Imperialist Economism, 1. The Marxist Attitude Towards War and “Defence of the Fatherland"https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/carimarx/1.htmNow a text against opportunists like you who equate every war as if it were "inter-imperialist" to defend US hegemony:
<Advanced European (and American) capitalism has entered a new era of imperialism. Does it follow from that that only imperialist wars are now possible? Any such contention would be absurd. It would reveal inability to distinguish a given concrete phenomenon from the sum total of variegated phenomena possible in a given era.
<V. I. Lenin, A Caricature of Marxism and Imperialist Economism, 2. “Our Understanding of the New Era”https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/carimarx/2.htm >>2790611thanks for citing your sources
>>2790622this is like saying cuba should stay blockaded as to avoid any kind of imperialist investment. you are 12
>>2790629
>it's the US that is preserving its 'AES' status
oh leftypol dont ever change
>>2790631What are the odds that Trump is projecting the fracturing of the pentagon and his administration onto the IRGC?
>>2790538Thank you Squidward very cool
>>2790640>le Fizzle sisters…<le Sizzle sisters…>i dont le feel so good<is it le over?>is it le happening?You're not funny, get new material for christs sake
>>2790644Fizzle sisters, our response??????
>>2790644>>2790648nibble siblings… lunch status?
>>2790629
>it's the US that is preserving its 'AES' status
boo get better bait boo
>>2790651
Yes, unironically doesn't look good for Israel
>>2790652they locked him out of the situation room. he's got nothing to do but post
>>2790650you have to see the pink shahed. best drone ever.
>>2790658You're mentally ill
>>2790651
israel automatically loses so long as the nuclear dust still exists in iran
>>2790613A country must have the capacity to develop its economy in a sovereign manner; being sanctioned allows for the independent development of industry; not collaborating with US imperialist hegemony facilitates de-dollarization and prevents deindustrialization; state capitalism is superior to private capitalism and small-scale peasant production. A country occupied by imperialist capitalism means aligning itself with the Gulf monarchies and Israel to maintain alignment with financial capital. Iran has a state banking system that, if overthrown by collaborators with financial capital, will be privatized to serve financial speculation and indebt the country into a cycle of austerity, like all countries that follow IMF guidelines without question. The loss of Iran prolongs the intensification of capitalist exploitation and unites the world's capitalists to better combat communists and workers worldwide. An Iran with independent national capitalism destabilizes the US imperialist capitalist order and its puppets. All this chaos weakens imperialist capitalism, facilitating national liberation movements and allowing communists to assume power as imperialism weakens, occupied with other enemies.
Occupied Iran bears no resemblance to occupied Iraq. Iraq represented right-wing Baathism, which began to enter into an antagonistic relationship with the Gulf monarchies as it lost its function in defending capitalism because it no longer had a role with the consolidation of neoliberalism, which has less tolerance for state capitalism and does not allow for the independent development of the economy. It's worth remembering that Syria had a left-wing Baathist tendency, unlike Iraq under Saddam.
Let's see a quote from Trotsky against pseudo-communist cunning here who don't want to defend an anti-imperialist position if British capitalism tried to invade Brazil under the Vargas government:
<In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship. The defeat of England will at the same time deliver a blow to British imperialism and will give an impulse to the revolutionary movement of the British proletariat. Truly, one must have an empty head to reduce world antagonisms and military conflicts to the struggle between fascism and democracy. Under all masks one must know how to distinguish exploiters, slave-owners, and robbers!
<Leon Trotsky, Anti-Imperialist Struggle Is Key to Liberation, An Interview with Mateo Fossa (September 1938)https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htmIs it true China has abandoned Iran?
>>2790629
Cuba wouldn't looking for US investment if they weren't close to the US. You can't be this densely retarded, demanding that level of purity.
>>2790678negatory, china actively exploits status quo disruptions all over the globe at the americans expense
>>2790683Is that a can of beans?
>>2790683>they aren't untouchableHow's they? This loser is so unpopular even Trump shat on him.
I pray to Marxllah they install him so Iran could have a revoluion 5 minuites later
>>2790684This uygha eatin beans
>>2790679Almost like liberalism in one country is a failed socdem fantasy
furiously googling how to make fertilizer and grow food in my backyard
>>2790650These kids deserve the world and more
>>2790625ML cope getting funnier each day. Next y'all are gonna defend IMF loans and shock therapy as based anti-imperialism.
>Cuba and Iran should be forced out of the global economy so their proles suffer
imperialist gangsters 🤝 leftcoms
>>2790700sir, you fell for b8. that article doesn't exist.
>>2790711he is the baitposter patting himself on the back
>>2790710They should be integrated into the global capitalist economy (more than they already are)
MLibs should shut up about them being socialist doe
>>2790674>>2790613I already answered you and didn't use any AI for this if you don't want to read it. Iraq has communists who see the common interest of parties in Iran against finance capital strategically. Iran has not yet been occupied to the point of becoming a colony, but its defeat is far more useful for stabilizing US imperialist hegemony and sanctioning other countries or blackmailing peripheral countries by international organizations to slow the decline in the rate of profit.
Read what I posted here:
>>2790669>>2790617Iran follows the interests of its capitalists; this does not justify supporting an invasion to financialize the economy as a non-antagonistic colony with Israel and the Gulf monarchies in the Middle East under US hegemony. Subordination to spontaneity is unacceptable. If workers fought for their interests and were repressed against the bourgeoisie, that is to be expected in a capitalist country. This does not justify subordinating oneself to a false opposition that serves submission to finance capital. Manipulating sentimentality to support capitalist imperialism and deceiving the masses has no effect on me. If you think that being a puppet of imperialism against Iran means you are fighting for the workers, then I say you are lying to deceive the naive.
>>2790622This is the interests of Iranian capitalists following their own interests. Now, this relationship is becoming more antagonistic because there is no tolerance between the capitalism of US hegemony and Iran. Subjugation as a colony is what is currently being offered. This is similar to when Putin tried to have Russia respected as a capitalist country integrated with American hegemony, but was rejected because being a colony is what imperialist capitalism chose. The more antagonistic and divided the capitalists in the world are, the better for communists to overthrow puppets of US financial capital hegemony in a communist revolution or to cut this relationship of dependence so that countries have more equal relations, causing the rate of profit to fall and making it impossible for capitalists to stabilize their countries.
>>2790703I literally got banned because I called an MLib retard for saying IMF (Hezbollah freikorps) should kill Lebanese workers cuz they block traffic
>>2790703There's nothing really wrong with investment on its own as long as it's done on equitable terms that allow the country receiving the investment to actually develop.
>>2790720Who supported US invasion of Iran? The voices in your head?
>>2790710name a more iconic due.
>Iran is the primary contradiction because its fighting US investors
<uh… it's begging for them
>then investments are actually good
What zero (0) theory does to a mf
>>2790731didnt marx literally trade in stocks
> Sailors blocked in the Strait of Hormuz are receiving fraudulent emails from scammers posing as IRGC commanders promising them safe passage against cryptocurrency payments
bruh moment
>>2790734>muh moralism Of course the liberalism flag hasn't read a word of Marx
>>2790733look up 1995 conoco deal. oil company porky want business in iran. stronger finance porky force him not to for geopolitics reasons. Iran fight strong finance porky not weak oil porky.
>comparing stocks to capital export
Oh allah please kill all western radlibs 🙏
>>2790731Non-argument and also Marx isn't super relevant here, since we're talking about the economics of imperialism which he never really wrote about. There are obvious examples of foreign investment being used to rapidly develop a country, improve the lives of its population, and overcome imperialist domination. China is the clearest example of this, and it was possible because Western capital only entered China on Chinese terms. Far from reducing China to a neo-colony of the West, it turned them into the most formidable rival they've ever faced. The problem with the typical pattern of economic relations between the Global North and South isn't that there's investment, it's that this investment is restricted to primary industries like resource extraction or non-productive sectors like tourism, grants the host country a tiny portion of the revenue, and/or comes with numerous strings attached on issues like labour rights, privatization, foreign policy, etc.
>>2790733Iran is fighting US imperialism, this isn't the same thing as US investment. If it were then the US wouldn't use sanctions as a punishment for countries that resist imperialism.
>>2790741South Korea is my favourite AES
>>2790740>he thinks industrial capital could ever be as strong as finance capitalcritical lack of Lenin detected. you may begin here:
>Thus, the twentieth century marks the turning-point from the old capitalism to the new, from the domination of capital in general to the domination of finance capitalhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch02.htm >>2790743I never said Iran was AES or that foreign investment had anything to do with socialism. I said that it's not equivalent to imperialism, and when done on equitable terms it can be mutually beneficial and promote development in poor countries.
>>2790710>Line goes up means world more gooderNeolibs 🤝 MLs
>Iran is fighting US imperialism, this isn't the same thing as US investment. If it were then the US wouldn't use sanctions as a punishment for countries that resist imperialism.
I might be hallucinating so I asked AI if this sentence makes any logical or grammatical sense, the answer is a resounding no.
Also i thought imperialism was capital export but apparently it is vibes and Iran is fighting those vibes
>>2790748>things must never get betteridealist detected
>>2790750This unironically 90% of western leftism at its core
Anything but proletarian revolution that might hinder their treats
>>2790745I am going to answer the same way I've answered to this misuse of Lenin:
It’s not the same if Russia opens a burger franchise in your country and simply operates there, versus the U.S. opening a burger franchise in your country where the CEO coordinates with the Pinkertons or other paramilitaries, and seeks the execution or disappearance of anyone trying to form a union or organize for better wages.
get better reading skills.
>>2790748you might as well go live in a cave, /pol/ chud.
>>2790750>Death to AmeriKKKa?death to America implies that everyone gets to have a better life, guess what? without the control of the US financial system, that, among other things, forbids trade between nations.
>>2790751>Things get better when AmeriKKKan and iRANian porkies get wealthier!Y'all people unironically believe in trickle down economics.
>>2790753>get better reading skills.ironic cuz ur reply has nothing to do with what was said
>>2790752most people understand you cant just export the conditions of revolution onto your own and that revolution is what happens when all other democratic options fail, feel free to start it yourself though big guy il be right behind you.
>>2790757one of those is not like the other
>>2790760I live in the middle east, my mission is the defeat of my islamist bourgeoisie, yours should be the defeat of your own, not sitting on your ass wishing mine was wealthier.
>>2790762people here would be calling marx a shitlib for posting that, they are just armchair fart sniffers
>>2790763focus on the US first they are the ones bombing you goyim, pushing over Iran will just lead to another century of the gulf wars.
Im sure the 3rd time will work bro just trust me
>>2790758>no argumentyou have less substance than bob dole and beto o'rourke combined.
>>2790764The US literally installed the islamist bourgeoisie in my country lil chuddie
>>2790749>I might be hallucinating so I asked AI if this sentence makes any logical or grammatical senseMaybe you should try using your own brain instead? The obvious point is that if investment was the same as imperialism, then the US wouldn't try to subjugate countries by withholding investment would they?
>Also i thought imperialism was capital export but apparently it is vibes Imperialism isn't capital export, you're misunderstanding Lenin here. What he actually says is that the export of capital surpassing the export of commodities is indicative of an economy reaching the imperialist stage of development. Imperialism is a system designed to artificially perpetuate uneven development so as to extract greater profits through prevention of competition and suppression of labour/resource costs in the colonized countries. It's the intentional starving/stunting of the periphery to fuel the development of the metropole. The typical pattern is something like this:
>poor country has raw materials the rich country needs>rich country cuts a deal with poor country rulers to extract these materials>the deal includes enough revenue for the poor country so that local elites can live in luxury, but not enough to reinvest in their own economy>diversification away from raw materials is discouraged>secondary industry is discouraged>privatization encouraged>labour rights and wages suppressed >poor country exports raw materials to the metropole only to import the products they're used to make (e.g. India exporting cotton to Britain and importing textiles)>local producers are forced out by flood of manufactured goods from the metropole>poor country becomes heavily dependent on the rich country, unable to develop its own economy under this arrangement>any attempt to change this inequitable arrangement is put down with force, either by the imperialists or local collaboratorsInvestment which allows countries to overcome this uneven development (e.g. by granting them sufficient share of the revenues to reinvest in their own economy) is by definition not imperialistic. Under your understanding virtually all trade would be imperialism.
>>2790768then rightfully fight those, would be helpful if you said which one though of course.
Like I dont think anyones gonna argue the devolopments in Syria with a US backed proxy is anything good, its obviously best if the US just fucked off forever and then the proles of Arab and Islamic countries can sort things out themselves without 100 NGO backed fundies spraying shit everywhere and the CIA funneling free guns and ammos to any tribe with a blood feud.
>>2790770The islamist bourgeoisie deindustrialized and privatized every enterprise here. The dotp will reverse this inshallah 👍
>>2790768and I bet you were angry about the nationalist faction side of your country before your puppet regime. enjoy the results.
>>2790774The nationalist said was begging the US just like Iran is today but capital needed war so let there be war
>>2790775sure, sure buddy. 'begging' as in, a fair treatment. no evidence, no reason to believe you, no right to speak but only be laughed at.
>>2790774yeah i'm sure it was all great under a dictatorship that prioritized tribal feuds and wars with its neighbors that also became an islamist shithole too, so much better than the americo-iranian appointed islamists
>>2790779>neocon talking pointsstfu crackkker
>>2790727>screenshot 2025>its been months he has been reposting this decade old shit cropped off wikipedia without context when he loose any argumentlol
>>2790780Sorry I seek genocide of the first world not more rentier revenue per profit extracted by exxonmobil
>>2790787Most popular communist in Iraq explicit goal is the overthrow of Islamists and establishment of dotp
Enjoy getting schooled
https://wp-iraq.com/ >>2790703>nooooo we dont want investment, we dont want any ability to develop our productive forces and improve the lives of our citizensmorons like you should be shot, you're a detriment to any cause you claim to defend
>>2790731>t. retard and obvious theoryletpathetic
>>2790794go get mental help I'm sure iraq have some psychiatrists, I dont care how much seethe iran cause you, this simply isnt relevant to the discussion
>>2790797Why Iranian proles existing makes you shit your bed doe?
I didn't leave third worldism, third worldism left me.
Destroy the west through righteous genocidal international revolution ♥️
Kill all Islamists and western imperialism disappears
>>2790804The guy friends with gulf islamists and helped them fund hamas?
>>2790792>Most popular communist >sub 50 average share (I really hope that number isnt unique read)embarrassing
>>2790809Kill him too, he is guilty by association with islamists.
>>2790816
Jah munkey
>>2790816
lmfao
>>2790727You're confused about Iraq. I was referring to coalitions based on common interests that the Iraqi Communist Party had at the time. Of course, the goal of communists is the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat, but there are situations where communists and Shiite parties in Iraq have temporary common interests. Being against imperialist capitalism and the effects of finance capital is one of these interests, and if Islamist reformists have a common interest, then communists can work together as long as it doesn't affect the communist party's ability to maintain its independence from the bourgeoisie.
You're confused, but as communists, we cannot tolerate liberals feigning opposition to subjugate a country to finance capital; therefore, we cannot tolerate these liberals co-opting the masses. I'll give the example of Turkey, where Erdogan intervenes in the economy using the national bank. If the opposition defends the independence of the national bank only to hand it over to financial speculation, then these liberals are using a reactionary proposal of submission to imperialism and should face opposition from communists as a greater evil. Politics should always be present in the economy, and there should always be intervention in the economy.
>>2790808>westard chauvinist mocking the real movement in the third world based on muh analytics on unknown websiteLike clockwork
They still have active sections in Iran and Kurdistan, influence dozens of unions in the region, caused a crisis last year, and have more organizational capacity than your larp will ever amount to.
>>2790820The Iraqi ICP isn't a communist party and it supported the invasion of Iraq
kys faggot
>>2790837there is not threat of a military operation in taiwan anyway
>>2790837I think these articles are writing to lobby for more military spending and maybe contain more speculation than facts. if push comes to shove, the us is still either the first or the second industrial power, and as much as people like to make fun of MIC embellishment, all of that can be very quickly either reformed or sidelined if the need arises. to take these articles seriously is to dangerously underestimate imperialism
>In response to Trump’s attempts to sow division in Iran, all senior Iranian officials jointly published a tweet tonight, stating that in Iran, there is no such thing as extremist or moderate; we are all resistant and resilient Iranians. With the extraordinary unity of the nation and state institutions, and in full support of Ayatollah Khamenei, the Iranian people will make the criminal aggressor regret his actions. One God, one leader, one nation, and one path — the path to victory for the Islamic Republic, more precious to us than life itself.
>>2790845you know, there's the point to make that the US isn't a reliable partner.
>>2790861oh, absolutely, but with China squeezing rare earth materials, less oil supply, and a retarded neolib in chief as trump is, the question is how much of shear can the US put on the common folk until their system starts to fall apart. ROosevelt managed to rally all americans to make sacrifices during WWII because he imposed several socialist restrictions, like harsh penalties for hoarding, rationing to top down to bottom.
and the more he time he tries to buy, the more Iranians will squeeze the energy market. and if he finally decides to go all-in, the outcome will be a much worse scenario for the economic burden, and it will result in the same political outcome for trump.
the only real thing saving trump, saving the economy, is that he admits defeat, signs a treaty, and let Iranians alone. but that's a no-no in the US diplomatic literature.
>>2790872Ein gott, ein führer, ein nationen
>>2790861Uh-huh, nice shell production, m9.
>The Air Force Is Having To Reverse Engineer Parts Of Its Own Stealth Bomber>Twenty-one years after the last Spirit was delivered, the Air Force is working out how to build the exotic spare parts the bomber requires. >>2790887You best start believing in drafts, kiddo…
>>2790861not gonna happen so long as labor remains expensive and stupid rightists made cheap immigrant labor impossible so
>>2790887USA was in Vietnam for 8 years
>>2790887and he keeps going:
>Reporter: What do you say to the American people who want to know how much longer this will take?>Trump: You’re such a disgrace. Do you know what I just said? How many years was Vietnam? >>2790887"we'll just be there for 17 years calm your tits libtard"
TTHEY TOLD ME DONT GO WALKIN SLOW
THE DEVIL’S ON THE LOOSE
BETTER RUN THROUGH THE HORMUZ
>>2790887DSA is organizing the most epic spontaneous dance off protest you've ever fucking seen in your life. There
will be furries. There
will be dildos. Trumps lil war is DONZO.
>>2790897Narcissistic collapse happens when a person with narcissistic personality disorder is unable to maintain their confident image after a big hit to their ego.
Common signs of narcissistic collapse include angry outbursts, irritability, and defensive behavior.
Being let go from a job or the breakup of a relationship or a quick war to raise morale are common triggers for narcissistic collapse.
>>2790905You can fool yourself,
I promise it will help
Now every single day,
I just wanna hear you say
Currently one C-17 is heading to MENA. And earlier today there was one
C-5, nine C-17s, two C-130s, one KC-135 and one 767.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=06a27a,33fff3,ae080c,ae056a,ae574d,06a27b,ae0814,ae0803,ae04b9,ae0817,ae07ce,ae07d5,ae2faa,ae07db,ae29ddEurofighter in the eastern Mediterranean.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=43cae8The Iranian government planes that landed in Ankara.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7324e3,7324e6This is a bit weird. This
C-5 isn't like the rest of the cargo planes involved in this war; it didn't temporarily stop at the bases in Germany nor did it take the same route. It most likely landed in Turkey but it's unknown if it's for something for this war.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0576>>2790823You can criticize how effective they were or whether they were co-opted at some level. The case of the Iraqi Communist Party, for example, was that they acted in conjunction with the Sadrist Movement as the Alliance Towards Reforms in 2018, but eventually they no longer saw common interests and left in 2021. I'm only giving this as an example, but you can add your own criticisms or points out errors.
I'll just include this quote from Engels regarding bourgeois elections to remind you how to act:
<The first great step of importance for every country newly entering into the movement is always the organisation of the workers as an independent political party, no matter how, so long as it is a distinct workers' party. And this step has been taken, far more rapidly than we had a right to hope, and that is the main thing. That the first programme of this party is still confused and highly deficient, that it has set up the banner of Henry George, these are inevitable evils but also only transitory ones. The masses must have time and opportunity to develop and they can only have the opportunity when they have their own movement–no matter in what form so long as it is only their own movement–in which they are driven further by their own mistakes and learn wisdom by hurting themselves.
<Frederick Engels, “Letters: Marx-Engels Correspondence 1886”, Engels to Friedrich Adolph Sorge In Hobokenhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1886/letters/86_11_29.htm >>2790927We don’t live in 1886, we’ve seen repeatedly in the 20th and 21st centuries that this electoral road is a dead end, even when you achieve full gramscian hegemony like the Chavistas did
>>2790929>erm actually engels was wrongreformists OUT
>>2790938Engels was the reformist though
>>2790967
may they find kek soon
>>2790964
>The United States and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire following weeks of direct and indirect conflict, according to officials on both sides, easing fears of a wider regional war.
CNN is saying the same shit, its actually over.
>>2790967
What territory did they lose?
trump fired his navy secretary because he told him that building the battleships he wants in the time he wants is impossible
>>2790964
What does the Iran war ending mean for trump midterms
>>2790966evidence for your claim, anon? (not the anon)
>>2790896… the USA was supporting the anticommunist Vietnamese starting in 1955…
>>2790986All political parties are inherently reformist
>>2790964
Is posting fake llm-generated news to farm (You)s the new meme?
>>2790991who cares
like actually unless you're 5'4" and made it your entire personality this is meaningless
>>2790807>What are the odds of Iran and Israel coming to an agreement where gaza is wiped off the map in exchange for nuclear armament?i mean let's be real… israel was never NOT gonna wipe gaza off the map so it's really getting something in exchange for nothing
>>2790994Then why does the official DNC account mock his height?
There are a million other things you could pick on a person for
>>2790991Bruh you're telling me they appointed a hung cow as head of the navy? Talk about on the nose
>>2790997Every man under 6'4" should recieve a state-sponsored
penectomy.
>>2791008The nationalism spook always goes with the religion one
>>2791008uygha who gives a shit
>>2791025
fuck off polyp
>>2791027I have already seen people like you call John mearsheimer /pol/
No one is falling for your crap Zionist. People have called pro Palestine activist antisemtic for years
>>2791025
go back
>>2791029>>2791025Are you upset you can't blame everything on the jews? Opposition to total prejudice got you by the cock?
Stop fucking crying, bitch.
>>2791043You literally show up unannounced with no one even engaging with you to complain about anti-semitism. I have seen you do it multiple times. I remember there being a rank poster who made useful contributions to the Russia Ukraine thread which was cool. As for you all I see by the tank poster in this thread when I check is crying about anti-semitism. Not even talking about the war in any form at all
>>2791029>you're a zionist if you don't like my ZOG delusionstop posting twitter screenshots and just shut the fuck up, no cares 1 iota about you have to say or post, you could disappear and i doubt more than 1 guy would remember you
>>2791047Call him /pol/ Zionist
Go ahead. You haven't done shit compared to him for Palestine
>>2791052Keep mocking Palestinians dumbass
>>2791051This shit does not work dude I don't know why you keep trying it. You Zionist have spent literally years calling Palestinian activist anti-semitic and you keep thinking it will work. It's pathetic
>>2791054and what relevance does this have to the contents of the thread?
>>2791057>YOU'RE ALL ZIONISTS, I'M THE ONLY NON-ZIONIST HERE, I LOVE ZOGPOSTING!you can keep posting this crap if you want but it's just gonna make people criticize you, which you seem to hate
>>2791058His post is directly about people screaming about anti-semitism go read it
>>2791058No there are plenty of other anti Zionist I am definitely not the only one. However the ones that immediately scream zog and call people anti-semitic non stop are definitely Zionist
>>2791057>>2791053>>2791061All the subtlety of a brick and grace of a bag of hammers, uyghurfaggot.
>>2791062You refuse to engage with the Palestinian activist writing Zionist. You Zionist always only have insults and can't argue against substance
>>2791064I don't have to engage with shit (you) hide behind, /pol/shit. (You) ZOGpost, (you) get pushed back, (you) cry like a little bitch about not being allowed to ZOGpost, and call us Zionists, hoping it'll silence us. That's not how this is going to work, fuckwit. You better accept it, you fucking tourist.
>>2791064you can keep calling people zionists but it's not gonna stop people from not liking your slop
>>2791037Huh, this guy is a Hilterite now.
I can excuse him for being a Pali but he is effectively given the green light to western chauvinists to mask off.
>>2791072What, did he start heiling?
>>2791054>>2791057polyps are so transparent, do they really think this kind of tactic work against anyone without brain damage?
then again, they're polyps, they prolly cant fathom people with functioning brains
>>2791079>Israel when journalistsHmm… "YEAH, KILL'EM" posting isn't as funny, when it's literally what's happening.
>>2790929>>2790966According to Marx and Engels the Marxist position for bourgeois elections is not abstentionism, but rather organizing into a distinct revolutionary party of the working class for proletarian class domination that is independent of the bourgeoisie. Using the election to count forces and demonstrate its program to the masses, even if its candidates have no chance of winning. Voting for communist candidates is a duty if you call yourself a communist, to develop experience in the class struggle and spread propaganda to the masses.
Now let's begin with three quotes from Marx and Engels on how communists should act in a bourgeois democratic election:
<Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.
<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, 1850, "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League"https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/communist-league/1850-ad1.htmRadical reforms can be made to push bourgeois democracy to the limit by advancing the class struggle to prepare workers for the revolutionary situation and destabilize these bourgeois democracies.
<Complete abstention from political action is impossible. The abstentionist press participates in politics every day. It is only a question of how one does it, and of what politics one engages in. For the rest, to us abstention is impossible. The working-class party functions as a political party in most countries by now, and it is not for us to ruin it by preaching abstention. Living experience, the political oppression of the existing governments compels the workers to occupy themselves with politics whether they like it or not, be it for political or for social goals. To preach abstention to them is to throw them into the embrace of bourgeois politics. The morning after the Paris Commune, which has made proletarian political action an order of the day, abstention is entirely out of the question.
<We want the abolition of classes. What is the means of achieving it? The only means is political domination of the proletariat. For all this, now that it is acknowledged by one and all, we are told not to meddle with politics. The abstentionists say they are revolutionaries, even revolutionaries par excellence. Yet revolution is a supreme political act and those who want revolution must also want the means of achieving it, that is, political action, which prepares the ground for revolution and provides the workers with the revolutionary training without which they are sure to become the dupes of the Favres and Pyats the morning after the battle. However, our politics must be working-class politics. The workers' party must never be the tagtail of any bourgeois party; it must be independent and have its goal and its own policy.
<The political freedoms, the right of assembly and association, and the freedom of the press — those are our weapons. Are we to sit back and abstain while somebody tries to rob us of them? It is said that a political act on our part implies that we accept the exiting state of affairs. On the contrary, so long as this state of affairs offers us the means of protesting against it, our use of these means does not signify that we recognise the prevailing order.
<Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, "Apropos Of Working-Class Political Action".https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/09/21.htmLenin also agrees with me if you read the text “Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder in the section written "Should We Participate in Bourgeois Parliaments?", so I will leave the link to the page if you want to read it:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch07.htmMarx also left a program for a bourgeois election after the Paris Commune as a quote for you to read:
<The French socialist workers, in adopting as the aim of their efforts the political and economic expropriation of the capitalist class and the return to community of all the means of production, have decided, as a means of organization and struggle, to enter the elections with the following immediate demands:
<A. Political Section[NB2]<1. Abolition of all laws over the press, meetings and associations and above all the law against the International Working Men's Association. Removal of the livret, [6] that administrative control over the working class, and of all the articles of the Code [7] establishing the inferiority of the worker in relation to the boss, and of woman in relation to man;<2. Removal of the budget of the religious orders and the return to the nation of the 'goods said to be mortmain, movable and immovable' (decree by the Commune of 2 April 1871), including all the industrial and commercial annexes of these corporations;<3. Suppression of the public debt;<4. Abolition of standing armies and the general arming of the people;<5. The Commune to be master of its administration and its police.
<B. Economic Section<1. One rest day each week or legal ban on employers imposing work more than six days out of seven. - Legal reduction of the working day to eight hours for adults. - A ban on children under fourteen years working in private workshops; and, between fourteen and sixteen years, reduction of the working day from eight to six hours;<2. Protective supervision of apprentices by the workers' organizations;<3. Legal minimum wage, determined each year according to the local price of food, by a workers' statistical commission;<4. Legal prohibition of bosses employing foreign workers at a wage less than that of French workers;<5. Equal pay for equal work, for workers of both sexes;<6. Scientific and professional instruction of all children, with their maintenance the responsibility of society, represented by the state and the Commune;<7. Responsibility of society for the old and the disabled;<8. Prohibition of all interference by employers in the administration of workers' friendly societies, provident societies, etc., which are returned to the exclusive control of the workers;<9. Responsibility of the bosses in the matter of accidents, guaranteed by a security paid by the employer into the workers' funds, and in proportion to the number of workers employed and the danger that the industry presents;<10. Intervention by the workers in the special regulations of the various workshops; an end to the right usurped by the bosses to impose any penalty on their workers in the form of fines or withholding of wages (decree by the Commune of 27 April 1871);<11. Annulment of all the contracts that have alienated public property (banks, railways, mines, etc.), and the exploitation of all state-owned workshops to be entrusted to the workers who work there;<12. Abolition of all indirect taxes and transformation of all direct taxes into a progressive tax on incomes over 3,000 francs. Suppression of all inheritance on a collateral line [8] and of all direct inheritance over 20,000 francs.
<Karl Marx and Jules Guesde, 1880, The Programme of the Parti Ouvrierhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/05/parti-ouvrier.htm >>2791146gas production+consumption means america is the sole remaining petrostate
>>2791148>>2791149Incorrect. The correct answer is that the yanks stole all their gas from mexico
>>2790984it means a bunch of capitalists will win and inequality, cost of living and the military budget will all increase
>>2791178
iraqi leftcom starts a revolution as a result of this
>>2791178
can you post a link to that? i can't find it
>>2791178Wouldn't couping the Iraqi goverment be very difficult though?
I do know that the US has bases in the country but still, looking into this guy he was the former defense minister of iraq and helped bring down Isis, it migjt be a ego thing idk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_al-Obaidi>>2791146are you quoting online prices or actual out of the gasoline nozzle prices?
guys trump just said he got a ceasefire with iran
>>2791227big if true but also small if false
>>2791227Woah so that means the war is over, right?
Can Jack wilimos win?
>>2791178
The US already controls the Iraqi economy.
The oil revenues (most of the state's budget) go to an account in federal reserve first, where the Iraqi government has to request and justify withdrawals to the USA (same deal with Venezuela btw). They also get lots of dollars in literal pallets. Their army is like a comprador and entirely reliant on US supply and maintenance. And finally, Iraq is only permitted to use Swift and dollar finances because of an ongoing sanction exemption package which the USA renews every few months. And that's the over the table, basic bitch stuff, that was put in place after the occupation. I bet NATO hasn't been slacking these last decades.
If Iraq were to try and leave Washington's orbit for real, the economy would cease to exist the next day. Liberals will scarcely want to risk that happening.
>>2791241that article is fake
>>2791178
DOESN'T EXIST
REMINDER TO ANONS THAT /LEFTYPOL/ HAS BEEN UNDER FAKE NEWS RAIDING THE PAST FEW DAYS. OTHER EXAMPLES WERE:
>fake burkina-ghana war
>fake iran surrendering to israel
>>2791146why has the prize increased more in china than in japan, korea or taiwan when it's less dependent on the gulf than them and it has way more ev's?
>>2791248China is actually taking the physical oil price seriously
>>2791247>>fake iran surrendering to israelTBH if the East-West pipeline across KSA isn't NordStream-ed soon, while the USA continues blockading Iran, I'm just gonna have to believe that one.
>>2791257 (me)
Like it's just getting ridiculous. Israel and NATO are literally using the "ceasefire" Iran provided to dismantle Hezbollah. And the USA is literally blockading Iran.
>>2791241can you provide some sourcing for this? Id love to read more about how current Iraq works
>Trump threatens to review UK’s claim to Falkland Islands and punish Nato allies over Iran war disagreement
>The memo also includes an option to consider reassessing U.S. diplomatic support for longstanding European "imperial possessions," such as the Falkland Islands near Argentina.WTF is going on lol
https://archive.ph/29oAD >>2791329You've heard of Vile Shlomo…
Now get ready for
Despicable Vikrum >>2791328He just wants more land for the Israel of the Western hemisphere (Argentina).
>>2791441at the expense of the israel of europe, engloids
>>2791467on a Friday too? yeah its definitely happening
>>2791481What if Morocco's flamboyant king invaded Spain and restored Al Andulas? Huh? What then chud?
>>2791248It's getting subsidized in hopes that it'll be a temporary crisis which makes the potential oil shock worse
>>2791477>>2791481They’re not going to “leave NATO” you gullible retards, this kayfabe song and dance is a regular feature between Amerikkka and its European vassals and you fall for it every time
Nobody is gonna leave nato
i'm gonna leave nato
>>2791477>How to leave NATO without the internal political falloutDamn this is 5d chess
I didnt leave NATO
>>2791477good if happens. won't happen.
Like 20 military aircraft just deployed from the local air base I think the Jews are about to nuke Iran. ZOG just flew over my house lmao.
>>2791532Just fucking kill me already
>Russia, China and Spain are EXEMPT from paying the tollbooth in the Strait of Hormuz.
Currently two C-17s are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were eighteen C-17s, two KC-135s, one C-2 and one A-400.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae07f0,ae145e,ae07d6,ae07de,ae145f,ae49c5,ae1463,ae07e4,ae1471,ae20ca,ae0454,ae07d9,ae2fa5,896c2f,43c172,ae07e8,ae0663,3b7768,ae20c3,ae07f1,ae058b,ae10b8,ae0677,706216Tanker movements from Romania.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae015e,ae04f8An Iranian government plane came from the east and started landing near Tehran.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7324e5>>2791532What's the name of the airbase near you?
Cuckran chose to get cucked again
>>2791539Travis air base in Cali. I looked and didn't see anything on flight radar but I'm guessing military planes hide their signal when going on bombing runs? Or I'm just schizo idk.
>>2791508Fungimir Shroomin
Iran is another reactionary leftover of 20th century geopolitics and will be swept into the dustbin of history
>>2791552Yeah I don't see anything on replays either. The base belongs to Air Mobility Command so it'd be more cargo and not bombers so I wouldn't worry about that.
Twenty planes is still a lot of shit though supposing it's all C-17s.
Iran exists and that upsets me, the moral and existential center of the universe
>>2791614Iran doesn’t exist and never has
>>2791623True, it has always been called Persia
The us is another reactionary leftover of 18th century geopolitics and will be swept into the dustbin of history
>>2791647Mexico is another Reactionary leftover of 18 century Geopolitics and will be swept into the dustbin of history
It's Friday! Everybody know what that means? The war is over and we won! See you next Friday when we'll win the war again!
leftypol is another reactionary leftover of 18 century geopolitics and will be swept into the dustbin of history
Someone needs to empty out that dustbin already.
https://archive.ph/CWhem
>Fifty days into the Iran war the world has lost 550m barrels of Gulf crude—nearly 2% of last year’s global output. Every month Hormuz stays closed, the world misses out on 7m tonnes of liquefied natural gas (LNG), worth 2% of its annual supply. Yet in Western countries, which host the largest futures markets, pain remains limited. Petrol is a bit pricier, but most households can still afford to drive. Trucks keep trucking. Planes continue to fly. Fuel stocks remain close to pre-war levels.
>This comforting picture is deeply misleading. By April 20th the last few oil tankers to cross Hormuz before the war began reached their destinations, in Malaysia and California. There is no buffer left to protect the world from the supply shock, at a time of the year when demand from holiday drivers starts to pick up.
>To gauge how close the world is to energy catastrophe, The Economist has gathered a dashboard of indicators. It suggests that grave damage has already been done. Worse, without a reopening costs could soar, triggering events that cause the fuel system to seize up. A reopening of the strait now would—just—avoid a complete disaster. But some additional pain is already inevitable.
>Three factors are pushing the world towards the cliff edge. Oil cargoes available to buy are drying up. Refineries are slashing output of fuel. And demand remains artificially high, especially in Europe. Something big must give somewhere large for energy markets to balance. Anyone else feel like the protests in Iran before this war started were grossly exaggerated? I feel like this war even proved it. Considering how fast the people of Iran came together to oppose the US and Israel that is.
>>2791776The reports of protest were prelude to the war were meant to manufacture consent. Trump is just so stupid he thought they were real enough to topple the government.
>>2791799What do you think the death count was, if any? That's the thing that's bizarre to me.
>>2791802They keep getting bigger and bigger so I'd guess that the reality is that they're vanishingly small.
>>2791802Iran's government says ~3000.
>>2791776my schizo theory is that Israel manufactured the protests so the people most willing to topple the government were killed early on because Israel is planning to do something much worse than regime change
>>2791819how many dimensions of chess are we on
>>2791776casualty numbers certainly were
why do diplomats travel in person to discuss shit with other diplomats? why not just settle everythinng through phonecalls and or online meetings?????
>>2791842They like to travel. See the sights and maybe get laid.
>>2791842Maybe security it also signals commitment to pyscially travel somewhere
>>2791819israel has never been coy about wanting to destroy iran so thoroughly it can never be a meaningful opposition ever again, too bad it's a retarded expectation and it will eventually spell the end of israel
>>2791842because sometimes you need to do backchannel communications, pass secret messages. computers and phones can be intercepted.
>>2791842this poster gets absolutely no play
>>2791819They literally admitted giving guns to protestors and operating inside iran during the protests. Some protesting was genuine of course but they got played.
>>2791881I think Trump said it and wome official was there biting his tongue or something
Still they admitted it. Got a better way to prove it? Isn't Pahlavi their dog anyway?
>>2791666>Mexico is another Reactionary leftover of 18 century Geopolitics and will be swept into the dustbin of historyBut Mexico didn't even gain independence until the 19th century
>>2791893I believe this 50%
>>2791893Nice orientalist meme timmy
>>2791893lol
this emboldens religious fanatics and schizophrenic conspiracy theorists
>>2791893Thats so fucking funny, the very propaganda that was created by CIA and oil porkies are undermining them.
>>2791901Im sure the cubans are ready for guerrilla warfare
>>2791901what we can definitely say about that with zero doubt is: big if true
>>2791901hope they find out
Chances of something happooning tonite are 66%.
Wish be luck.
>>2791921
sorry, that journalist "looked into it". nice try schizo
>>2791842If you can't risk getting Khassogi'd nobody takes you seriously
>>2791901It'll be over by Christmas!
>IRGC: A ship (EPAMINONDAS) suspected of cooperating with the US military was seized. – Tasnim
>"During the past six months, according to intelligence monitoring by the IRGC Navy, this ship has made multiple trips to US ports and due to ignoring warnings and multiple maritime violations, it was seized by the IRGC Navy."
>>2791893I’m convinced it’s because God is on the side of Shia Islam.
>>2791956you don't need god when you have motivation, organization, militancy, initiative, and productive forces. Iran has those in spades, and it is the quasi-Leninist nature of its revolution which gave them that. They are just Shia Liberation Theologists. God doesn't need to be real or on your side. You just need to behave as though it were the case. It's kind of like how free will is the most real when you recognize it's a spook and choose to be guided by material forces and necessity.
>>2791968>you don't need god when you have motivation, organization, militancy, initiative, and productive forces.* and mass support. duh. how could i forget
>>2791968Just joking my mang, since the region getting a lot of rain is pretty biblical and Trump is acting like the antichrist.
Like I’d say the odds of the 12th imam coming out of occultation are probably non-zero with all the crazy shit going on.
>The US Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctioned today around 40 shipping firms and vessels associated with Iran’s "shadow fleet".
>>2791995A house in Beverly hills? I thought these guys were like getting killed and shit how/why does this guy got a house over there?
>>2792018it might be a fabrication as well. these politicians are never dumb. they know that their behavior has repercussions, and they think three steps ahead, and have advisors that help them think and take decisions before they happen. the US is not the only place in the world with smart people.
I never trust those articles coming out stating that X property belong to Y leader. if they are coming out means more like a policy shifting or a policy reaffirmation, and that's all.
There are no planes currently heading to MENA. Earlier today there were four C-17s and one KC-135.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae20c6,ae07dd,ae1468,ae04c9,ae144cThe weird
C-5 I pointed out earlier appears to have landed in Cyprus.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0576This drone is still active, mind you.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae7814Spoofed aircraft using the default hex code (ignore the giant striped lines, it's an incorrect interpolation since it came from a base in southern Cali).
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=249249>>2791893It's bullshit but I believe it
>>2792017They're literally just smashing mortar shells into things with drones. That's awesome.
>>2791921
i remember years ago some zio academic wrote a book about why arabs and muslims are so conspiracy minded. funny enoiugh one of his last conclusions was that becaues there have historically been many true conspiracies by outside powers. it wouldn't surprise me if 20 years down the line we see documents released about this saying that the US did try to mess around with weather to create a drought conditions in iran.
>>2792016>>2792017How much damage do strikes like this do?
>The Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas found in a survey of nearly 100 oil and gas executives that nearly 80% believe the strait will not reopen until August or later. More than 80% of executives who responded see future disruptions in the strait as somewhat or very likely, the Dallas Fed Energy survey found.
Priced. In.
how is the ceasefire holding up?
>>2792179Iran like always cucks out and everyone in the LE AXIS OF LE RESISTANCE has to pay for it
>>2792151this is iran thread
>>2792208Hello this is mershsm, today on iran podcast we tell how to hold hands with your friend while launching missile at dubai
>>2791893It's not a cospiracy they started to mess around with weather since vietnam.
ZERO strikes
ZERO ceasefire negotiations
Just what the hell is going on
>>2792177Can’t price in a very real energy shortage.
>>2792121for a very small army like israel's? not to be underestimated. however, I don't think Hezbollah can showcase swarms of drones.
>>2792220We're in this liminal state of non-peace/non-war. Watch it continue indefinitely.
>>2792121Depends on the vehicle, of course. I don't think the D-9 was destroyed, but the Humvee was probably at least disabled and that soft comms vehicle is definitely gone.
Hezb puts HEAT and other anti-armour charges on the drones, so they're pretty effective against vehicles.
>>2792318real anti-imperialism in action
>>2792338bombing tonight then and back to negotiations on monday?
>>2792359Is there even a plan for a definite course of action among Trump's regime
As has been posted, the oil crisis has yet to fully hit home and the longer they play chicken with the Iranians the worse it becomes
>>2792338lmao he's so full of shit.
>>2791921
don't be a retard and use AI to prove an argument ever
>>2792286it can't, because the Strait is still closed to US assets. It's going to go to the bitter end as long as Iran prevents the passage of US and Israeli-flagged ships or until the US admits defeat (not going to happen).
>>2792377 (me)
which is to say that it's can't stay cold forever because of the pressure of scarcity of a resource of fundamental importance to the world economy
>>2792320This is way I will always oppose resistard larp
>>2792366>As has been posted, the oil crisis has yet to fully hit home and the longer they play chicken with the Iranians the worse it becomesTrumps pretty fucked, he has no good options. I think he's really just hoping for some kind of miracle to avoid the invetable. Which only just makes the future consequences worst. Iran is positioning itself to try and attempt regime change in the U.S through its propaganda and effectively sanctioning the U.S economy.
>>2792320Trump either has to commit to a full invasion. Which will inevitably need a draft to sustain or he needs to concede to Iran and blame everything on israel.
Currently six C-17s and one A-400 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were six C-17s, one KC-135, two A-400s and one A-330.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae07dd,ae07f6,ae1238,ae119b,ae07e3,ae1197,43c5df,ae10ba,896c40,3b776a,ae07fd,3b776d,706217,896c30,ae07e1,ae059b,43c700P-8 spotted over the sea of Oman.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae684c>>2792382There's no regional build up of troop deployments to signal any capacity to actually invade
This may just continue as a tit for tat exchange of missile and bombing escalation campaigns that ultimately lead nowhere
>>2792382The US abandoning Shitstainrael would be a dream come true.
March every last Israeli into the Sea, except for the children, who should be converted to Islam.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/25/mrfp-a25.html
<Hegseth says Iran blockade “going global,” as US announces new sanctions on Chinese shippingAt the very end:
>In the same interview Marshall endorsed nuclear escalation. Asked whether the US “will have to go in and finish this job” if negotiations fail, he replied: “I think that’s right. Previous presidents have had the same issues on what to do. Think about President Truman’s decision on dropping the bomb, and D-Day for President Eisenhower.” Truman ordered the nuclear destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. >>2792415the chinese will NOT stand for this. the STRONGEST words are imminent
>>2792415dropping the bombs on japan was 100% completely unambiguously definitely not necessary. this is the historical consensus. every respectable historian agrees. japan was ready to surrender and the USA knew that. they dropped the bombs on civilian targets. the bombs were dropped for typical pure sadistic bloodthirsty USA reasons.
Fuck, It looks like the USA has successfully planted the seeds of a civil war in Iran.
>>2792419
*IraKKKi economy
>>2792404Israel is the name of your prophet, CIA-mindraped bro.
I humbly APOLOGIZE for calling the IRGC a bunch of do-nothings in 2025.
>>2792450I'm sure this statement was eating away at them in their sleep. Thank you for lifting the burden, anon.
So what's the endgame?
>>2792453Ho Chi Minh once said:
>When making criticism and self-criticism, we must sincerely expose our shortcomings. If we make mistakes but don't want to expose them, that is like a patient who refuses to tell his disease to the doctor. Thus I must uphold the principle of self-criticism no matter how harmful to my self-esteem.
>>2792457baathised and saddampilled
https://alexcallinicos.substack.com/p/geopolitical-fractures-and-the-marxist-119Thirty minutes read that might be of relevance to some; partially dog shit as the author tries to appellate the Ukrainian conflict as an inter imperialist war
>>2792471It took this long?
>>2792487
Yeah okay buddy, pull this shit elsewhere this is the IRAN thread
>>2792491You brought it up doe
Also it is partially a zionist thread and Russia is a zionist country
>>2792496This is next level schizo posting considering heavy rain and winter season already extended before the region before the war started
>>2792496If really I wanted to find a correlation with the war, I would be looking at all the dust and burned oil creating seeds for clouds…
>>2792493>You brought it up doeAs a reminder for how dogshit the opinion is. Russia has an economy the size of Texas dependent on fuel exports
>>2792465the flipside has to be people in good will trying to help you work through it
>>2792320that's not official iran lego. i can tell because it's not as well made even though it hits some similar vibes
>>2792318>also, accounts for the incredible appearance of an Iranian F-5 over the skies of Kuwait doing bombings. what?
>>2792510yeah there are multiple authors
>>2792320also
>no IRGC guy>no "one vengeance for all">4 minutes in, still no israel or ba'al type imagery >>2792419
so much for iran supposedly bombing the fujairah pipeline
Oil futures markets open in ~24 hours.
>>2792586Whatever has happened to the oil reserves? Are they getting depleted or nothing has changed?
>>2792604They're being drawn from slowly, and yeah they've declined a lot so far.
There's apparently lots of arguments and discourse in the Israeli government right now about the Arrow interceptor shortage and the fact that Bibi constantly decreased production of it in the last few years.
>>2792496We've seen heavy rain and floods all year you spaz
>>2792627Who doesn't, brother? Who doesn't….
Currently three C-17s are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were fourteen C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae144d,ae2fa5,ae080d,ae117c,ae07e6,ae145e,ae145d,ae1459,ae080b,ae119a,ae07ff,ae0813,ae123f,ae07df,ae1464,ae146f,ae1235All quite on the happening front
I almost lost this thread
Communiqué #3Before we torched LPP Holding to the ground in Czech Republic, we took restricted documents from the factory. Since then, we have heard nothing from LPP Holding following our request for them to publicly terminate ties with Israel’s biggest weapons producer, Elbit Systems.
These documents are now attached to this communiqué.
We remind all others who work with Elbit you have two options: wait for us, or release a public statement with proof that you have cut ties with Elbit Systems. This includes Data Patterns (India), as we also found your restricted documents at the LPP Holding facility.
Since our last communiqué, there have been a series of fires against the imperialist weapons industry. The fight against Zionism is made stronger by these courageous individual actions.
To the western masses, join us. The Zionist machines operations in your towns and cities, and it is time to tear it down.
https://earthquakefaction.net/three/Leakrd Files:
https://earthquakefaction.net/media/three/ Oil futures markets open in ~3 hours.
Currently three C-17s are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were ten C-17s, one C-40, one A-330 and one A-400.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae1467,ae117d,ae07de,ae07f4,ae07eb,ae144b,43c5df,ae20ca,ae4d69,ae123a,3b75a8,ae1251,ae49c6,ae145f,ae144a,ae07e9>>2793345I appreciate these posts. So there's been quite the troop buildup recently?
>>2793485Not troop deployments else there would have been news
>>2793485No it's mostly interceptors and stand-off munitions for jets.
>>2793519 (samefag)
Also a good chunk of it is routine military supply to Israel that ranges from medical equipment to bombs.
>>2793517
>US doesn't want to fight
>doesn't want to admit defeat
>fizzle
You're standing in the eye of the storm, saying it has passed.
>>2792419
why would this destroy the Iraqi economy? The US controls their oil. The Iraqi economy would only be destroyed if the US decided to decrease the allowance it pays them to look the other way. Which it may well do. But then they won't look the other way any more. And it's not 2003 any more.
>>2793646Where do you think the OIL revenue that goes to Iraq's federal bankaccount t in the US comes from retard
>>2793662
>the USA's puppet govt is the Axis of Resistance
>>2793651if only there was something in my reply that answered this question
We back to seething again, are we?
>>2793686You get quiet every time the actual shooting starts.
>>2793691
I don't think even the Iraqi ultra who thinks Iran is imperializing Iraq, because regional trade, has an opinion that extreme.
>>2793691
a seed is not a tree
Riddle me this, islamist
Why does the ACKsis kills protesters when they want to overthrow "US's puppet government" (your quote)?
Why is the biggest bloc in the "US's puppets government" explicitly resistard 'coordination framework' for almost a decade? Why did they handpick the PM who hands oil to the US?
Why does squealing at the enemies of the US always get louder the more US is eating shit?
>>2793706There is no answer
There will never be an answer
There is no AI summary of a country you know nothing about that can get you out of this
There isn't even an cope attempt
This mindrapes the campist
This is class struggle
>>2793716
I wouldn't stoop so low as to suggest these posts are made by the subhuman degenerate that cheers on US imperialism for the sole reason it makes us mad.
>>2793709>Why does squealing at the enemies of the US always get louder the more US is eating shit?Yeah I dont get what that anon is even saying. It's bad the U.S is losing? That our prolly installed pedophile game show host president started another unwinable war in the middle east. One that creates more and more economic crisis and supply shocks the longer it goes on. But Iran isnt communist so workers all over the world have to face famine because it's better to see the world engulfed in constant war and imperialism than the U.S having to concede?
>dismantles your larp ideology using your own premises
<heh… attention whore
<umm psyop much???
Oh allah we are weak…
It's still talking and thinks it accomplished something.
Don't care, didn't ask. Kick sand, pound rocks.
Collapse of American imperialism is ongoing, and posting on an imageboard changes nothing.
>>2793726
I like reading the news. What's the opposite of "doomscrolling"?
IT IS OFFICIALLY DAY 60 SINCE THE START OF THE WAR
Using either the 13 mmb/d or 15 mmb/d lose figures, 60 days of Hormuz closure means the world has lost 780 million or 900 million barrels so far at least, not counting losses due to damaged refineries or restarting oil wells (which would only become fully obvious after the war).
>>2794019American GDP hinges upon verbal interventions and fake news
>>2792204Not the TREATS!!!
>>2794042That ain't treats. An army still marches on its stomach.
How the hell do you get these kinds of supply issues today?
NEH won
Fizzle won
Bourgeoisie won
Campsisters lost
Currently one
C-5, three C-17s, one KC-135, one A-400 and one A-319 are heading to MENA. And earlier today there was another
C-5 and nine C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=498422,ae07ef,ae49c6,ae4f12,3b7760,ae0659,ae0578,ae10b8,ae07e3,ae2fa6,ae057d,ae4f13,ae123d,ae080b,ae0677,ae144c,ae1449Iranian government plane heading east.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7324e5>>2794078by not resupplying your ships?
>>2794099
Yup, it's an ideology whose sole purpose is to provide copium. Even libtards can see it
Hormuz status? Is the ceasefire holding?
>>2794078>How the hell do you get these kinds of supply issues today?I've been thinking about this too. Iran must have clapped their logistics much harder than has been reported if they're not able to supply ships with food.
>>2794263shit. that is bleak
>>2794099>>2794131hilarious "anti campist" (pro imperialists) seething
they literally see the overextended US empire unraveling itself trying to submit various national bourgeoisie, as predicted and applauded by the dreaded "campists" (in reality, the anti imperialists) who give critical support to those nations under attack, and all they can do is seethe about it by repeating the same neh mantras as the "libtards" and denying the reality that the "campists" (anti imperialists) were entirely right in their analysis so far
keep it up guys, we always need a laugh when in the middle of the bleak realities of war
>>2794265>>2794078>I've been thinking about this too. Iran must have clapped their logistics much harder than has been reported if they're not able to supply ships with food.Idk how Iran would be able to distrub the resupply of aircraft carriers. This got to be due to corruption and DOGE cuts. Im sure the destruction of the multiple U.S bases caused a supply shock but it's not like Iran can take out U.S ports in the pacific that could be sent to resupply them. Maybe im a tard on this, I understand that the navy likely isnt risking resupply through the Red Sea so they got to go the long way around.
>>2794263>An unnamed Hezbollah military leaderLet's hope it's not true
>>2794263Morality/aesthetics aside, is suicide bombing more effective than other methods like drones or car bombs? Feels wasteful.
>>2790522Are most of the Jannies namefags ?
>>2794503Thry said old tactics, including "suicide attacks,". This is more than just uicife bombing exactly.
>>2794503nah, the best methods are the quietest. anthrax in the mail, sarin gas attack, that kind of stuff. Those tactics just aren't used by /ourguys/ for some reason.
>>2794518Wasn't anthrax in the mail a hoax? Or at least exaggerated?
>>2794503i think the statement refers to this
1982 bombing of a IDF intelligence building in Tyre. 1983 US Embassy Bombing and the Marine barracks bombing.
>The blasts killed 104 Israelis and 47–59 Lebanese, wounded 95 people, and were some of the worst losses ever for the IDF.>Of the Americans killed, eight worked for the Central Intelligence Agency, including the CIA's top Middle East analyst and Near East director, Robert Ames, Station Chief Kenneth Haas, James Lewis and most of the Beirut staff of the CIA.>The attack killed 307 people: 241 U.S. and 58 French military personnel, six civilians and two of the attackers.This forced IDF to move out of Beirut and the Chouf into the Litani. but the conflcit continued in the 'security zone'. it was called Israel's 'Vietnam' at the time.
>On March 10, a suicide bomber killed twelve Israeli soldiers from a convoy near Metula, inside Israel. From mid-February to mid-March, the Israelis lost 18 dead and 35 wounded. >On 9 April, a Shiite girl drove a car bomb into an IDF convoy. The next day, a soldier was killed by a land mine. >On 18 October 1988, eight Israeli soldiers were killed by a Hezbollah suicide car bomb. it continued into a constant tit for tat and the IDF were worn out, the occupation was unpopular with the israeli public, and they withdrew in 2000 because it was unsustainable. hezbollah is saying if you do this again this is what will happen.
>>2794530All the more proof that you can't have peace with Israel. They will just attack again later. Two-state solution is a joke.
Only the "Amerithrax" attacks were real. The rest were hoaxes, mostly carried out by anti-choice terrorists and other right-wing dingbats.
>>2794530Yeah Hezb was definitely attempting to open old wounds with this backhanded threat
I don't believe they genuinely think it's effective in modern warfare
>>2794611>>2794619>epic music video murder montageAbsolutely soulless.
>>2794694>justifying your politics with bronze-age mythologywhy are israelis so retarded? I've never met an american jew who gave two shits about the bible or tanakh whatever
>>2794700So just like Shia Islamists?
geg
>>2794611It's a pity the helicopter one was a miss.
>>2792220Trump doesn't have object permanence so he won't understand how fertiliser shortages are a problem until it's too late.
>>2794690Hmm…
Would be very interesting if this poster was one of those bitching about "campists".
>>2794690Practice some revolutionary defeatism, faggot. It's not like the Hezb doesn't recruit miserable Shia workers who it itself beat down.
>>2794732Nah that's me
>>2794724If the prediction around temperatures this year tracks, crop failure and fertiliser shortages could create a perfect storm for food prices
Given the presence of three carriers and a refusal to negotiate, the situation appears that it will only worsen as time goes on
>>2794690every one of the 6 people in that video would have gone on to kill several palestinians or lebanese civilians had they not been stopped, therefore it is self defense, simple as
>>2794700they don't actually believe in the wholly babble, they just USE it. as machiavelli said, there is nothing more important than APPEARING religious. notice how he said APPEARING rather than BEING. the most powerful religious zealots don't believe a word of scripture.
>>2794749>Marsh, UK-based>subsidiary of Marsh McLennan, a New York companyWoah, woah, international booj, what the FUCK ARE YOU DOING?
We're gonna need a new award for this - Trusted the International Booj Award.
>>2794870Yeah I know, they are soldiers, about as valid of a target as you can get, doesnt change anything about the fact posting videos like that is a height of ghoulishness.
>>2794872
This thread has worse doomers than /pig/ and they're panicking over the gas prices more than here.
>>2794888it's just one so-called "iraqi leftcom" who endlessly samefags and makes new threads with ai-generated fake news
>>2794890What are you even talking about man
Jej Israeli Telegram channels are still malding over the FPV kill footage.
>>2794611Are these drones invisible or something, they barely react
Is this going to turn into another Ukraine where nothing ever happens?
>>2794908I think we might be dead by july bro
>>2794908The war is ending they are moving the navy away rn
>>2794908US and Israel got what they wanted. A whole bunch of dead children and lots of money for their bourgeoise
>>2794883> posting videos like that is a height of ghoulishness.why? everyone should be shown videos like this over and over again. they need to learn: live by the sword, die by the sword. they need to learn what happens to invaders and tyrants. they need to learn that it is better to rot in jail for dodging the draft or even die by by firing squad than to betray the proletariat and end up with your asshole blown to bits and your intestines draped over your leg stumps.
>>2794883it's not even gory, don't be a baby
>>2794883What's wrong with ghoulishness? You trying to soft peddle some Christcuck shit? Gonna go to bat for foot-soldiers of reaction?
It's time to embrace Socialism with a Human Face as a Party Mask.
Unironically these videos boot revolutionary defeatism regardless of the side. I bet they caused manpower shortage in th Russia-Ukraine war
They're double edged sword since redditors on the other side of the world get to make memes out of em doe
>>2792018A. It's Barzanis, do you think thry live in tents in the desert, or what?
B. Properties abroad are usually bought as fairly no-questions-asked assets.
>>2794935>French Revolution slanderYoutube essay slop.
Currently one C-17 is heading to MENA. And earlier today there were twelve C-17s, four C-130s and one KC-135.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae145c,adfe85,896c2f,adfdb6,adfdb8,adfe87,ae07f1,ae1468,ae119b,ae07e8,ae07f5,ae07e4,ae0664,ae1233,ae08e3,ae145e,ae07d8,ae07d9>>2794942Is that why there is a movie soundtrack over it, to highlight horrors of war?
>>2794971They put this music over every video of theirs.
>>2794970
You know what's necessarily not anti capitalistm tho? Liberal theocracy that calls commies fags before burying them in mass graves
>>2794972
peanut brain
>pol memes
go back
>>2794876and the
trusted national bourgeoisie fell for it again award never replied that, huh. as in, celebrating or reckoning the situation.
>>2794995
That you need drink RC Cola.
>China industrial profits jump 15.8% in March despite Iran war oil disruption
>Per CNBC.
So is there anything new or are we still waiting for the futures markets to meet reality?
>>2795117>profitscapitalist confirmed
/s Look at them go. this swarm of boats are the terror of the international oil supply market.
by the way, incredibly good report.
https://theoilreport.substack.com/p/outatime>Thai Foreign Minister Sihasak Phuangketkeow told the Washington Post that Thailand is approaching Russia and China for economic assistance after receiving no help from the United States, even though the country has been a U.S. treaty ally since 1954. “This war should not have taken place,” he said.
>Thailand is among the hardest-hit Asian economies from the Strait of Hormuz closure. The country relies on gas for 66% of its electricity, with LNG accounting for 27% of its gas supply — 28% of which previously transited the Strait. The cost of sourcing a spot LNG cargo has surged an estimated 125% since the conflict began, with prices jumping from $11 to $23.50 per million BTU, compounded by a 5.3% depreciation of the Thai Baht, according to the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis.
Chairman of Israel’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Boaz Bismuth:
>‘The Iranian regime is about to pay a very heavy price. I call on everyone to continue with their routine, be patient, and stay alert.’
>The statement was made after the end of a high-level security briefing.
<Middle_East_Spectator
Here we go again anons
>>2795410Pretty sure usrael were the ones to start this war and force it on Iran
>>2795410>Colonialism is a better alternative to being bombed by colonialists until every hospital stops working, every farm is rendered fallow, every bridge and tunnel destroyed, etc etc etckys, Iran has been begging, just like Russia, to be part of the global system that the US has molded into existence since the end of the Cold War, but it chooses against the wishes of the entire species to impose itself as it has been imposing itself since its inception
>>2794331What does 'critical support' mean to you? Are you directly working in a popular front with the Iranian bourgeoisie (historically this sort of alliance usually had disastrous consequences for the communist side) or are you just opposed to US military intervention? The 'collapse' - an as of yet not accomplished retreat from the Middle East and Ukraine - of the US empire going to result in the resolution of imperialism? Can imperialism be resolved without resolving the class contradiction?
>>2795477>The 'collapse'*Is the collapse
>>2795477>The 'collapse' - an as of yet not accomplished retreat from the Middle East and Ukraine - of the US empire going to result in the resolution of imperialism?different anon but yes, atleast its a good step forward. comprador countries like japan, philippines, south korea etc.. would then find itself in a legitimacy crisis making communist agitation for the first time possible since the USSRs collapse. So, tell us, what would you find bad about the US collapsing? Yugoslavia betrayed the USSR because of this "both sides" foolishness (which is nothing more than supporting the more powerful economic entity against the weaker one) and guess what happened to them.
>>2795448
>Yes, so why campists cheer it on
Not even argument but a pure fallacy
UAE leaving OPEC
also pattycake pattycake baker's man?
>The UAE is to exit OPEC on May 1st.
>Their energy ministry issued the following statement:
>"This decision follows a comprehensive review of the UAE's production policy and its current and future capacity and is based on our national interest and our commitment to contributing effectively to meeting the market's pressing needs."
Someone make a new thread
>>2795668I will make a new thread in 2 hours from now be patient
>>2795788thank you I don't know how to make a thread I've never been on an imageboard before or used a computer where am I what is this why can't I see anything
>>2795662the dam is breaking and it will be a glorious flood by a wrathful god. let us be cleansed
>>2795824nah, it's more UAE knowing the oil price will be very high for a very long time, and they don't want be bound to the opec quotas.
to whoever pays attention to opec news, this was uneventful for OPEC, because UAE issued threats before.
but what's telling is the timing now.
but does UAE even exports anything right now?
also, Iran had a very nice run, why did they had to fizzle it out like this?
>>2795919blame china
the war was eating into their profits so they defanged their proxy
>>2795919>also, Iran had a very nice run, why did they had to fizzle it out like this?It's in their interests to drag it out. The ceasefire expired without a deal and Trump didn't go back to firing because he's shook. Iran is in full control of the strait and oil prices are rising again. I have complained a lot about Cuckmeini and AoR incompetence before but they're in a good position now and seem to know what they're doing. Patriots are in control. Trust the plan.
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