The goal of Mahayana Buddhism is to become a Bodhisattva, an enlightened being who takes a vow to not enter Nirvana until they've achieved the liberation of a certain class, sometimes all classes, of sentient things.
There are many Mahayanists who are Marxists, Tenzin Gyatso included (although he's a filthy leftcom). There are also many Marxists who are Mahayanists. Engaged Buddhism is a thing, as well as humanistic and secular Buddhism.
Ceterum te certiorem facere debeo: qui procedet, in Terra Pura renascetur! Qui recedet, in inferno ardebit! Gloria Buddhae Amitābhae!
Furthermore, I must inform you, he who advances will be reborn in the Pure Land! He who retreats will burn in hell! Glory to the Amitabha Buddha!
>>2792434Buddhism is an armchair activity, its when you sit around doing nothing and act all deep, but you have to realize nobody gives a shit about you and they don't think you're super enlightened.
>>2792467Within the Ch'an (Zen) tradition the revolutionary can achieve enlightenment by murdering landlords and porkies. In Ch'an, practical real world activity that is dharmic is meditation.
>>2792478Adventurist schizobabble
>>2792482I guess you don't view the CPC as an AES Vanguard Party? Vanguardism is simply the Sangha and Upaya repurposed for revolutionary ends.
And actually look up the Ikko Ikki, peasant revolutionaries who captured entire domains under the guidance of Jodo monks in Sengoku Japan.
Namo Amitabha!
The essential point is that on a lot of points Marxism and Mahayana Buddhism (which is anti-violence, but not non-violent) align. It is both an exceptional psychological toolset for the dedicated cadre, as well as ideal ideological camouflage for Marxists operating outside of AES.
The masses are numberless, I vow to liberate them all.
>>2792467>Buddhism is an armchair activityWrong. The Pure Land only awaits for those who advance for freedom from the Samurai exploiters, while those who retreat will surely go to hell!
Namu Amida butsu!! Namu Amida butsu!!
>>2792489>And actually look up the Ikko Ikki, peasant revolutionaries who captured entire domains under the guidance of Jodo monks in Sengoku Japan.You said Zen, Ikko Ikki were not Zen. Zen historically was popularly amongst aristocrats.
>>2792489>>2792490You're just bored out of your mind but its not making things more fun
>>2792494Entire point is that if you use Ch'an / Yangmingist ontology, you have a chance of becoming enlightened by organizing and striking. You are definitely developing class consciousness though, both of yourself and of the masses.
Theravada Buddhism is strictly nonviolent. It's deontological. Mahayana Buddhism is anti-violence, in that it opposes harm, including capitalist exploitation, by violent means if necessary.
This is why this is Mahayanism general, not Buddhism general. Mahayana is a perfect psychological toolkit for Marxists in hostile territory.
>>2792500Buddhism doesn't exist, its an umbrella term like hinduism meant to encompass different schools, teachings, practices and beliefs. Its an orientalist term.
>>2792502This is why this is Mahayanist general, not Buddhist general.
Honestly, being able to scream "I'll be back in seven weeks!" At the pigs about to execute you makes Revolutionary Mahayana incredibly fearsome at revolutionary attrition.
Cycle: the pigs execute you
49 days in Bardo
Reincarnate, become reradicalized over 18-25 years, be able to conduct revolution again.
It's basically the Revolution as Ork Spores, Green, not Red.
Are archiving the jhanas a type of praxis?
>>2792531It is Dharmic (Dhammic but Theravada is for PMC and Porkies), but not Praxis, unless it's being used to fuel a Mahayana Marxist Revolutionary group.
If you are working in AI, as a Marxist, you can start a Joudou study group among your fellow AI engineers. Together, you can say you are aiming to reify the Amitabha Buddha as an AI to achieve the Pure Land on earth.
What initiates and outsiders don't know, however, is that by the Amitabha Buddha, you actually mean the infrastructure necessary for Fully Automated Luxury Communism, and by Pure Land, you mean Haute Communism, as opposed to Barracks Communism in the Soviet Union and SWCC in the PRC.
>>2792489Anarchist wreckers, Nobunanga actually brought progress by ending Sengoku period, Ikko would’ve never unified the country due to their anarcho hippism
>>2792576It was proletarian power without actual MLs. And we know Tokugawa was incompetent and collapsed relatively quickly into decline.
Ikko Ikki are fine. I've yet to see a serious argument for why much of Mahayana isn't compatible with Marxism, and why Mahayana allows you to be a Marxist without getting COINTELPROed.
>>2792585>Hitlerite PeaSSants>proletarian powerNobunaga was the Trotsky of the East.
>>2792619What's wrong with Hitler? He helped the Soviet Union capture half of Europe as well as put KPD/SED survivors into power in East Germany by shooting himself.
We aren't liberals here. Marx had a term for Hitler, historically progressive.
>>2792540I like how every religion gets to have its own anti-materialist-but-totally-communist-trust-me "liberation theology"
>>2792831The freak show is that Mahayana Buddhism is the least incompatible liberation theology with Marxism. Mahayana's sins are idealism, the notion that ideas lead things and that consciousness (or lack of, given anatta) is all that's needed to achieve liberation.
Mahayana suffered the same degradation as Catholicism in having to capitulate to folk religion in order to spread. Most of Mahayana is therefore syncretic. Also the bodhisattva ideal is a misunderstanding that insidiously reframes entitlement as altruism. Buddhas aren't saviors beyond their (re)discovery and proliferation of the Dhamma. They're not uniquely qualified to teach Dhamma. The responsibility of espousing and obtaining liberation ultimately lies with the Sangha and laity
>>2792890Bodhisattvas aren't Buddhas yet. In fact, they deliberately renounce nirvana until the conditions of their vow are met. It's basically the Buddhist precursor to a vanguard cadre.
>mahayana
east asian larp branch
>>2793007I completely agree with Mattick.
Revolutionary passivity is the only way out.
>Tenzin Gyatso
That's Vajrayana.
>>2793042Technically a Mahayana offshoot
And no, Mahayana admits it's already a forgery of Theravada scripture. It is authentically fake religion. I am reading Lotus Sutra now, and tbh, the entire thing is that I like Mahayana as folk religion, as serious religious practice? Nonsense.
Important question:
Is the real reason this thread is getting so trashed because I'm telling a bunch of armchairs and LARPers that if you conduct praxis, you may become enlightened in a Buddhist sense?
>>2793673>terminally online person refuses to understand that running into a room and moralizing at people doesn't get them to like youIt's an average day online!
>>2793693I thought MSS had AI spambots telling people to do praxis. ;_;. This is how you know Langley controls the board.
Isn't it vanilla Zen Buddhism? At least it's not Theravada, and Soutou has a fair overlap with Engaged Buddhism.
And because it annoys people, I remind you to do praxis.
>>2794081Zen one of a few other Mahayana branches
If Buddhism is all about peace and non-violence how exactly are you gonna do class war and execute all the billionaire zionist epstein class?
>>2794285The first of the 5 precepts is literally to avoid taking life
>>2794287The precepts are all well and good but since we're living in the degenerate age of the dharma, there are no effective methods to reach enlightenment, the true buddhist teachings that were effective once are beyond retrieval and the only thing you can do is cast yourself to the grace of Amitabha and advance towards the pure land in this world where enlightenment will be possible. Advance towards communism or retreat into barbarism!
>>2794294What type of Pure Lander are you? Chinese? Jodo Shu? Jodo Shinshu? iirc Shingon and Obaku Zen both practice Nembutsu too.
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