Modern transhumanism seems to have been entirely coopted by the extreme right, the fascist right.
The Elon Musks, Peter Thiels, Alex Carps, Sam Altmans, Mark Zuckerbergs, Nick Lands, Curtis Yarvins of the world.
These are people who hate humanity. Hate. Hate. Hate. Nothing but hate for the human condition.
These are people who see capitalism as both inescapable and worth accelerating to its maximum hostility, just to line their own pockets and see how many they can kill in the process, which they take pleasure in.
They want the working classes as a living dead, as digitised servitors, as brains hooked into a corporate matrix, hopeless and powerless to do anything but work.
They watch at Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell, and read Neuromancer and decided the hellish dystopia is what they want, at any cost.
Why? For the aesthetics alone? Because they expect to be the corpolords on top of the dogpile for a brief moment? Due to pure psychopathological sadism?
If you listen to them they've stated their aims:
They want city states, owned and ran by megacorps, ruled by CEO kings, when millions of serfs toil for the 0.0001% to live in a synthetic cyberutopia.
Is it any wonder then, that the modern left reacts today with a total hatred to transhumanism?
Recently there's been a whole spate of videos from leftist content creators outlining how they believe transhumanism is an ontological evil, conceptually and entirely with no distinction between various ideological forms it may take.
But it didn't use to be that way.
There used to be a prevalent current of left wing, socialist transhumanism, and of anarcho-transhumanism.
UBI for humanity's sake. Cybernetics to treat injuries and disability. Full bodily autonomy. Computer driven economies to equalise wealth and prioritize well-being. Robots to clean our streets.
It was not about life extension via designer peptides and child-blood transfusions for the elites. Not AI taking the job of the artist. Post-humanism as an enhancement of capabilities, not as a tool of nihilistic self-extinction.
So can we, and should we revive left transhumanism? Can the left at last de-demonise the term?
Because, personally, the way I see it technology is advancing whether we like it or not.
In that case I think we're morally obligated to bend the direction of the incoming technocrisis towards leftist goals, to promote a socialist transhumanism as an alternative.
If the tech like a meteor crashing into a city can't be stopped we must direct it so that we can minimise casualties.
Left transhumanists should raise public consciousness of their ideology as much as possible and if capable eventually launch cyber attacks on the Palantirs and OpenAIs of this world, physically disrupt their murder tech, burn their data centres, steal their data to repurpose it and openly reveal their secrets, again and again and again until there's no alternative but for people begin to take seriously the need for technology to serve the goal of benefiting humanity, not ending it.
Anyway that's just something that I ended up think about today.
I'm not the most knowledgeable on this matter, so please tell me what you think should be done to prevent these sick freaks from forming their cyberpunk Hitler society.
Please let me know if you think it's possible to construct a real movement out of left transhumanism!
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A single cow in beef can feed a family for a year with its meat.
The reason agriculture became so popular is because grains feeds slaves who tend the fields.
>>2798204Sleep ends the day for an animal; it is the pleasure of unbecoming.
>>2798208>Why would we grow plants when we can just hunt animals?By the same logic, why do we hunt animals when we can just cannibalize each-other?
>>2798211Cannibalism is a pattern across various tribes, so its not out of the question; the same way the incest taboo only occurs at a certain stage of development. I would say that hunting other animals probably builds trust in a tribe rather than building suspicion.
The only thing i like about transhumanism is extending human life span and thats it
>>2798215I suppose you prefer atomic bombs
>>2798217Humanity truly was best when you could grow up to the age of 5 and then have your mother tear you limb to limb to eat you.
>>2798218If this was the case, how did humanity last so long?
You are projecting the horrors of civilization onto savagery.
>>2798220>If this was the case, how did humanity last so long?Because they didn't listen to morons like you, they killed them.
>>2798220>You are projecting the horrors of civilization onto savagery.Savagery literally embodies cannibalism from prior to civilization.
The worst product of civilization is primitivism.
>>2798221>listenWere the mothers giving ideological defenses?
>>2798222And civilization means torture, slavery and war
Cannibalism is perfectly tame compared to the rest
You can get the best of an anprim life via transhumanism.
Walk into the holodeck, plug your brain into the virtual world, and got live in a virtual mudhut, get impaled by a digital wild boar and die of cyber-dysentery safely as many times over as you want.
>>2798233Why would i put my brain into a rock to touch grass, when i can jjst touch grass?
>>2798235Because then you can touch grass for 1 million years
>>2798231No those mothers and their bastard sons like you got killed off by the rest of the tribes, which eventually civilized.
>>2798231>And civilization means torture, slavery and warTorture, slavery and war existed prior to civilization.
>>2798241>bastardMarriage is a civilizational concept
>>2798242No they didnt.
>>2798245>No they didnt.They did, we can even see those exhibited in apes.
Every human that has lived before civilization (the growth of cities) has been able to confine another person enslaving them, torture them by physical damage and tribes have waged wars against each-other.
>>2798245>Marriage is a civilizational conceptThat's one way to call your mother a whore.
>>2798249Yes, my mother was promiscuous, which is not a disagreeable thing.
>>2798247Not all conflicts are wars
Wars are conflicts between states for the acquisition of resources; e.g. rape of women, theft of property and conquest of territory.
Torture can only come from malice, which is a result of repression and resentment, which don't exist before civilization. And enslavement is not exhibited anywhere in the animal kingdom.
>>2798250>Yes, my mother was promiscuous, which is not a disagreeable thing.Yes and you are an unwanted pregnancy, very apparent from the way you turned out.
>>2798253Of course, since my mother was young when she had me
>>2798250>Wars are conflicts between statesThat's semantics to narrow down the definition in order to idealize the reactionary primitive life utopia. A war between tribes is for the acquisition of resources the same way: rape of women, theft of belongings and contest of territory.
>which is a result of repression and resentment, which don't exist before civilization. That's also wrong, repression and resentment existed for as long as humanity did.
>>2798258>the reactionary primitive life utopiaAs opposed to the progress of nuclear war, i presume
>A war between tribesWhich only really begins during the neolithic era.
>repression and resentment existed for as long as humanity did.No they havent. Hatred is a uniquely civilized emotion.
>>2798255Life would be better for you without civilization, unwanted pregnancies were either left in the wild to die or terminated after birth. Embrace your limits, embrace death and kill yourself.
>>2798267>No they havent. Hatred is a uniquely civilized emotion.Hatred exists as an emotion in all sentient animals.
>>2798268>embrace deathThat seems to be your theme.
>>2798270No it doesnt.
Hatred is the impotence of will; it grows from fantasies of retribution, which dont fester in the minds of the innocent.
>>2798267>As opposed to the progress of nuclear war, i presumeAt the very least it will give you what you're looking for - coming to terms with death.
>>2798271My theme? That's your theme, come to terms with your limit.
>>2798277I have come to terms with my limits, which is the source of my sanity.
>>2798273Even animals other than humans are capable of retribution.
>>2798278Your sanity consists of self-loathing and waiting to die. That's less functional than most insane people.
>>2798279I've never seen it.
Yet almost every civilized man is full of ugly emotions, like shame, fear, hatred, envy, etc.
>>2798281>self-loathingSelf-loathing is more befitting a civilized creature, which must learn to domesticate itself.
>>2798283>Yet almost every civilized man is full of ugly emotions, like shame, fear, hatred, envy, etc.All of those have existed as long as humanity and sapience itself.
>>2798283>Self-loathing is more befitting a civilized creature, which must learn to domesticate itself.Yeah like yourself, you are the worst product of civilization.
>>2798289No they havent.
Only enslaved animals can learn to feel shame.
Slavery is the hallmark of civilization.
>>2798290>no uI guess you're at the end of your tether.
Anyway, like I say - Accept reality, and be sane, my friend.
We don't need civilization as long as we get to exterminate the religious and the primitivists who go against development and glorify the poverty of regress. Civilization protects the primitivists and enables them to use the fruits of production to express their abhorrent views without facing consequences, in wild nature the strongest wins and the strongest is always the smarter.
Primmies have a crony view of anthropology idealizing non-existent pasts and only exist to sabotage any people trying to resolve present problems, the useful idiots of competing rulers.
Civilization is characterized by the growth of cities, we don't need cities to conduct science, let us form migratory habits to go around the world and rid it of species traitors impairing the prolonging of life and the possibilities of interacting with the environment.
>>2798299>Slavery is the hallmark of civilization.Slavery has existed prior to civilization, as long as humanity has existed people have confined others against their wishes.
>>2798299>Anyway, like I say - Accept reality, and be sane, my friend.Sanity as a word did not exist prior to civilization.
>>2795765OP you see what I told you? Viper pit, full of reactionaries.
>>2798305>as long as humanity has existed people have confined others against their wishes.Wrong. Read Origin of the Family. In hunter-gatherer society there was a time before slavery when captives of enemy peoples were simply killed or, if there was room, integrated.
>>2798319Read common sense, if people wanted to confine each-other they always could.
>>2798319Were native americans civilized to practice slavery?
>>2798322I.e. before colonizers even arrived - Tlingit, Haida, and Kwakwaka’wakw where war captives were enslaved, slaves could be bought, sold, or inherited, slaves performed labor and had very low status all the while the tribes were still hunter-gatherers as small mobile bands with no permanent settlements.
>>2798174Eat shit then primmie
I'm sure humans in the far future, after being genetically modified and riddled with cybernetic implants, would disgust most modern people, but I'm not sure how you could oppose it without going against industrial, instrumental logic. Might as well throw away your glasses and computers and heart transplants. I wonder if the sex instinct will be destroyed as a redundant waste of time, or maybe used as a psychological carrot. Do X labor, receive Y pleasure. Or we might be desexualized, but the reward would be a bit of wire head euphoria.
>>2795765>Modern transhumanism seems to have been entirely coopted by the extreme right, the fascist right. bc leftist transhuminism is predicated on popular ownership of the means of production
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