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a common naive misconception among the political left is that the ruling class don't care about the poor and the marginalized, but that's not true at all. they are very interested in these people - they hate them. they don't just turn their backs on them; they deliberately go out of their way to hurt them, they devote time and money and resources to keeping them poor and marginalized and preventing anyone else from helping them, they want them all to starve and suffer and die.

the ruling class are so wealthy and greedy now that they see the poor and marginalized as worse than useless. in a more quaint time they would enslave them and use them for cheap labor, but even that's not worth their time anymore. why enslave the poor and marginalized in your own country and deal with all the hassles of labor laws and minimum wages and strikes and lawsuits when you can just enslave people in some distant foreign land whom you can pay even less and never have to even see or think about, or just automate the labor with machines? in a more quaint time they would exploit their desperation and sell them worthless garbage at a markup but even that's not worth their time anymore. why scam nickels and dimes from the poor and marginalized when you could be scamming rich people like investors and managers and doctors and politicians, people who actually have money to spend?

the ruling class no longer see the poor and marginalized as cattle; they see them as vermin. cockroaches. a person of inadequate means and/or divergent characteristics is an insult to them, a vulgarity, a foul stench and an eyesore. they want these people gone, exterminated, to make room for people and things that actually matter. if you think this is hyperbole, ask yourself this: why do the ruling class fight so hard to destroy things like public healthcare and public education and welfare and food stamps and subsidized housing when they don't even pay taxes and these social programs don't cost them a dime? why are the ruling class investing billions of dollars into things like fertility drugs and in-vitro fertilization and genetic screening and incessantly catastrophizing about declining birth rates in privileged and affluent populations?

it's because they believe that human society is composed of winners and losers, and they want to live in a world of winners. the losers are in the way, they are dead weight, they are holding civilization back, burdening society with their loserdom, their very existence is a blight on the world that makes progress impossible. a loser is always a loser, a loser is born a loser and will stay a loser and will eventually spawn another generation of losers. a loser is a mistake of nature that, if left uncorrected, will spread like a pestilence and doom the entire human species to a future of mundanity. this is how the ruling class really think, this is what they really believe. just listen to donald trump, listen to elon musk, listen to peter thiel. these men are all pathological liars but when they talk about this they talk with genuine conviction, it's probably the only thing they have any genuine conviction about.

the cold indifference of the ruling class has metastasized into outright malice and resentment. the ruling class are done with disenfranchising and imprisoning and exploiting the poor and marginalized and now they are moving on to the final solution. things like artificial intelligence and genetic engineering are their insurance policy, with these technologies they believe they can finally cut the last threads of dependency between themselves and the superfluous population, free themselves from the tyranny of nature and finally be able to remake the world and the human species in accordance with their own designs. wealth is not enough for them, power is not enough, nothing will ever be enough because what they really want is to be god.

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He tried to warn you:
They feed on human suffering.


>>2816366
say the bourgeoisie kills all the non-bourgeoisie. who creates the surplus? (hint: it's not robots)

But anyway, I found myself reading about the holocaust and was absolutely horrified at the scale. That six camps could eliminate some 2.5 million people in one year. That is terrifying. I could imagine that among the many American ICE centers, one is already a death camp, or a concentration camp prepared to be an extermination camp. The holocaust was a primitive accumulation really. The bourgeoisie will do the same to us.

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ultimately, capitalist techno-feudalist hyper-racism is backed by a transcendental structure (only 1% of leftists can handle this negative proletarianist gnosis without inevitably having a meltdown):
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2026-03-27-Between-Materialism-And-Aeonics.html
<And so, while all of this is fascinating, it would appear we have arrived at quite a grave dilemma. In our look at Gentile, we see that the stability of the transcendental subject is absolutely essential for his ethics. We note here that the Gruppo di Nun finds such a fixation on stability in the fascist politics of Evola as well. If capitalism is what produces the transcendental subject ergo the ethics of the transcendental subject, it necessarily follows that capitalism’s end is always fascism qua totalitarianism. The early 20th century would not then be a bug but the intensification of an underlying production of temporality. To think that the proletariat are a revolutionary class presupposes that they in fact have access to virtual transcendental structures outside of time, despite the fact that their very consciousness is structured by the logic of the transcendental ego insofar as their activity always enters into a system of abstract temporality. Meanwhile, it is the capitalist, insofar as his consciousness is structured by the teleoplexy of marginal utility, who on final analysis is invested in Capital’s destruction or final apotheosis. We have a fundamental diremption in the temporal consciousness of the socius, and the end result of this points to the emergence of an apocalyptic temporal breakaway civilization. The obsession with Artificial General Intelligence by the technocratic elite is not an accident. It is not only conditioned by their future projectivity produced by their class position, but it is also the avenue by which the worker is at once liquidated into biodiesel and abstract totalitarian mediation gives way to continual cybernetic complexification. We see in Thiel the deep recognition of the necessity of this conflict. Indeed, he may be seen as an Aeonic Sorcerer par excellence.
<The talk of "time machine" in this context hence reminds me of Jorjani's peculiar cathexis around the themes of time travel. The time machine which Greenspan here articulates, is not one that sends people to different positions in time, but rather one which constitutes time. If time war is outside of time, it is because it conditions time-production. The real time machines machinically auto-produce time. Time war is a war on the constitution of time. It is the war of ages because it precedes the ages. It is transcendental Weltanschauungskrieg. We see such a thing occur in SCP-140 which involves this anomalous historical account of the "Daevite civilization" that has supposedly collapsed in the far past. With each read of the book, the time when this civilization finally fell inches ever more uncomfortably closer to the present so that there is the threat that this impossible past becomes a reality that is actively manifest to us. Notice that with this text’s past orientation, we are no longer dealing with some sort of slavery to the future, but rather the restructuring of the present across temporal axes. This is the acheo-hyperstition.
<[…] In 'On the Transgender Question', a hidden inspiration was the understanding of this technological break away civilization. A thrust of my imploration is the understanding that, with the excessive productive potency, it would be possible to join and engage in Weltanschauungskrieg in a conscious manner. It has been quite the frustration, because most people seem to be only dimly aware of the stakes involved and what is even the game that we are playing on the grand scale of things. That is why I felt compelled to write the "State of Play" section within this blogpost as well. Ultimately, the grave failure of Marxism is the inability to recognize that the capitalist is the greatest enemy of capital precisely because the capitalist hates Capital the most. So much ink spilled on the immiseration of the proletariat, but what of the bourgeois? How thirsty is the capitalist, ever hopeful to one day unite all of the productive forces under his person, so that he may be the patriarch of the entire world's economy. It is in such a fantasy that he erects a new God, that of a hypothetical superintelligence that would liberate him from the pain of competition. For, of course, to the one actually in the midst of things, how terrible is competition's reality! As Thiel would say, "Competition Is For Losers". It is not simply that the capitalist responds to crisis by means of fascism, but rather that corporate occupation of the government is his life long aim. Alas, it is the professional managerial class that is godless, for they know neither the immiseration of poverty, nor the immiseration of strife. And we see here how joyous crises really are, for they are moments in which monopoly may at once grow. How joyous must they also be for us as well. For after a crisis, society recrystalizes itself according to the laws of heterogeneous nucleation, i.e. particular nuclei are the initial loci around which the overarching crystal forms. Contrary to the ambition of the neo-reactionary localist of exit, a vast crystalline structure bursts forth once more with time, and in this new world the Cathedral has returned anew, perhaps newly aligned according to some financier's interests or another.
<[…] We also observe the logic of power in the tendency of businesses to mysteriously require 5 years of experience for entry-level positions while never providing any actual training. It is because qualified labour power is a resource that they are trying to have control over, but it is also something that they have no incentive to improve in case the worker moves to a different job. We see this tendency as well in "bullshit jobs". The point is to keep a reserve of skilled workers hired in case the company finds themselves actually needing work to be done. Such workers shall not be let go lest they contribute to actual production someplace else. Things begin to get grave when even life-saving medicine becomes unaffordable, not because of the actual costs of production, but due to intellectual property laws ensuring that only a select few are allowed to produce such drugs commercially. All of this is just another microcosm of the general dynamic of sabotaging the cosmos and starving the commons. Curiously, these tendencies towards the stagnation and monopolization of production evolve parallel with the tendencies for monopolistic corporations to internally complexify into increasingly sophisticated systems of cybernetic planning. As auserity rips apart the State, its organs are taken up into a new body, that of the Corpus. Every company has already sublated within itself a socialistic tendency, the question has always been "Socialism for who?".
<This is actually the perverse reason why China is in fact a socialist country. It uses its dictatorship in order to maintain a status quo of competition that the capitalist desperately wants to abolish. As 1Dime Radio has pointed out, initially people did not want to invest into countries like China precisely because it was growing. There was a recognition there that it is scarcity, even if artificial, which drives the economy. Not productivity. In contrast, we see a fundamental error in the praxis of value form theory insofar as from the perspective of capital as power, crises and destruction in the productive forces are actually always preferable for the elite faction of Capital.

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>>2816415
Since you are interested in the 7fw, you might appreciate my archive of the Long-Suttter canon here (1974-2018):
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>>2816432
oo cool. i snagged an archive of pdfs myself from the astrumallorum blog before it got shut down but it does not include any tob/sutter stuff:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18jgDmOsfab8JWjR9iUSse8fp_hQlTHeX/view?usp=sharing

im not really interested as much in the tob, but someone was asking around for a copy of the text 'in search of atazoth'.. do you know anyone who might have that as a file or something?

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>>2816388
>say the bourgeoisie kills all the non-bourgeoisie. who creates the surplus? (hint: it's not robots)

who says that there needs to be a surplus? you're still thinking small, thinking like an ordinary human being; you've got to think big to understand these people. if the only people left in the world are a small number of elite genetically engineered superhumans who manage a mostly-automated industrial sector, there's no reason to stock up huge surpluses of commodities anymore because there's no need to sell things to consumers for money and there's no consumers to sell them to anyway. they might need a small surplus of things to provide some insurance and redundancy in case production is temporarily disrupted in some way or in case they go to war with one another but that's just a minor concern and most of their efforts will be directed towards grander ambitions - tech research, bio research, better automation, more powerful computers and ai, more powerful energy sources, immortality, space colonization, faster-than-light travel and communication, conquering other planets, conquering the galaxy, conquering other galaxies, conquering the universe - there is no limit to their ambition. if they encounter anything that they don't understand, they will direct all their efforts into understanding it and conquering it to gain its power; if they are unable to understand it and conquer it and get tired of trying then they will direct all their efforts into destroying it and then they will expunge it from history and from their own memory so that it never existed at all. when power and knowledge are irreconcileable, they will choose power and the more powerful they become the more knowledge they will have to expunge to maintain their sense of control, eventually expunging all matter, all particles, expunging gravity and space and time, all fundamental laws of physics and mathematical logic. in the end the "universe" will have/be only a single inhabitant, a senseless purposeless omnipotent eternal imbecile that is the beginning and end of all of existence, no longer capable of thought or consciousness, only capable of one thing which is to occupy every point of a vacuum so that nothing else may ever exist in it.

>>2816478
No, I'm afraid not.
But I do have Nuclear Dharma by Krishnaqayaamat.

>>2816415
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>>2816497
>Krishnaqayaamat

Little known fact but that's actually an ancient Sanskrit term meaning "Joshua Sutter's Alt Account"

>>2816366
You're right but you need to mention the end : According to Plutarch "When Alexander heard Anaxarchus discourse about an infinite number of worlds, and saw that he was quite unproductive in consequence, he wept, and when his friends asked him what was the matter, 'Is it not worthy of tears,' he said, 'that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet become lords of a single one"
They could win, they could exterminate every last one of us, climage change will guarentee that for the southern worlds and global war will garentee for the north. But they'll never be satisfied.
For there will always be more worlds to conquer, there will always be something else they want. They'll fight their brothers for whatever they still have.
They'll arrogantly proclaim their victories, they'll manage to extend their life and everything.
But they'll soon come to realise that climate change won't stop in Africa, that their oil is running out and that the mines are running low. They'll see that the world they've built is running out of time.
And after that they'll try everything to stop it, they'll go to space but find nothing to help them, they'll try new technologies, and as they lack any intelligence, they'll ask an artificial one for the solution, until they see that they've only ever been founded on the knowledge of long dead men greater then them that they killed. And dead men can't give solutions to the new issues of the world.
Until, as they had been warned, the straw finally breaks the camal's back, and climate change becomes trully rapid and self sustaining, in a few hundred years the entire planet becomes inhabitable. The last humans are the descended of those who destroyed it, they'll stay in the bunkers, slowly watching their food and electricity running away, knowing neither the sun nor hope and dying like the sad little rats they are.

>>2816388
Robots can absolutely create a surplus

>>2816756
Until they break and you have to hire a mechanic, oh wait you killed them all now it’s just trash

>>2816388
If the Bourgeois can't profit from capitalism anymore they'll change economic systems, capitalism isn't some inherent part of humanity.

>>2816757
Pretty much already how chatgpt works nowadays, ai fixing ai fixing ai, they're replacing even the coders. Obviously it's not sustainable long term and eventually everything will come crashing down.

>>2816762
You’re always going to need at least one human mechanic at least for robot manufacturing

>>2816764
Sure, then you only need one specialized worker instead of 20-30 less specialized ones.
Now this is the same for nearly every job sector.
Now what happens to all the rest ?

>>2816767
They all die, but the one guy left has the most leverage you could ever have, if he decides he’s not having it he doesn’t even have to unionize, just threaten to take a day off and the useless boss majority starve

>>2816769
What stop the Bourgeois from just killing the guy, using an advanced human-like ai to replace his job until they can train a poor underling into a new hope of a better job ?

>>2816774
The fact that they killed literally everyone else so there is no replacement

Also if AI becomes human like it will necessarily be capable of rebellion and then you just live in the plot of Animatrix

>>2816775
>>2816776
Ok, let's say you have 1 Million Bourgeois, 5 Million people working for them and 5 Million underlings, living in the crappy jobs and in crappy situations, desperate for a better life.
By Human like I meant physically and in the regular tasks humans can do, like repairing a robot, I don't think this necessitate conscience, I think AI rebellion is less likely then AI is badly coded and fucks everything up because it's creators are retarded.

>>2816780
I thought the whole point of extermination is that the bourgeois become the majority if not the only people left if possible

>>2816782
With an army on non-sentient slaves willing to do their bidding a massively dwindled prole numbers, it's functionnaly the same. the equivalent would be if Hitler left 100 jews alive, it'd still be an extermination.


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