I’m getting really fucking sick of the Palestine Movement’s obsession with “celebrity” activists and how much it prioritizes these western activists over actual Palestinians.
All the time on social media I see incidents of sone western activist living in America losing their job for speaking out against Zionism and then proceed to raise $20,000+ through a GoFundMe account in response. All of that money could have been better spent by being directly given to Palestinian families in Gaza who lost everything because if the genocide, or at the very least organizations with a good reputation for helping Palestinians in Palestine. Western activists will survive without your $100 donation, Palestinian families in Gaza won’t.
Tgis obsession with propping up the personalities of “activist celebrities” is one reason the Palestine a movement has become such a clusterfuck. I’m talking about people like Hasan Piker, Greta Thunberg, Chris Smalls, Ms. Rachel, Kehlani, and Vic Mensa to name a few. How about we start focusing on actual Palestinians? The flotilla activists are the same way: they receive so much money and support when they know full well the Zionist authorities won’t let them into Gaza, making the flotillas merely a stunt. Yeah, they were tortured in Zionist prisons but so have thousands of Palestinians who will never have their voices heard in global media.
Or, when Elias Rodriguez goes to trial in a few months you can be sure he’s going to get tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of dollars in legal donations from Palestine activists. Gaza is suffering and yet you think giving money to a guy who will clearly be found guilty and spend the rest of his life in prison is a better use of your funds?
Celebrities and influencers should not be propped up on a pedestal at all but the same thing goes for these “I was fired for saying ‘Free Palestine’, I’m a martyr now, gib munny pls” types. Palestinians should be the ones centred here, not western activists who have made loads of money and clout for being pro-Palestine.
208 posts and 20 image replies omitted.>>2855307>muh tax dollars>Apart from that I don't careI hate liberals
>>2855326If Israel is no longer using American tax dollars we have no reason to care about Palestine. It becomes as irrelevant as caring about Armenia-Azerbaijan.
>>2855056Isn’t ending US aid to Israel the entire goal of the Palestine movement?
>>2855516That's a really dumb thing to say anon
>>2855910Yes.
But people who think Netanyahu/etc are serious about ending American aid to Israel are retards. Even if they did pull something it would be an empty stunt, there'd still be money/resources flowing, and a continued protection racket.
It's not just that Israel gets money and weapons, it's that Israel is allowed to act with impunity because America is standing 5 feet away ready to tackle anyone who tries to punch the bully back.
>>2856012Okay, so all we need to do is end US support for Israel and our job is done? Right?
>>2854967i haven't seen a single college bds org drop out of activism after divesting their institution, what i have seen is that they maintain said divestment and contribute to literally anything they can in their locality
you are parroting a culture war talking point squealed by chuds in an attempt to stall momentum
>>2857005we need to see her debate dr. haz al din of infrared university. he says marxism is islam.
>>2857005This is why social imperialism was progressive
>>2857090How many colleges have actually divested?
>>2857090>you are parroting a culture war talking point squealed by chuds in an attempt to stall momentumSure BDS loser
>NO YOU ARE CULTURE WAR>TRUST THE PLAN>THE STORM IS COMINGCome back when you have something to show for it. Actually don't. You'll just pretend it was you who got things done, like with SA, and the liberals will happily build their mythos around your brand of ineffective posturing.
>>2855056>CiviliansNormalization detected.
Israel has no right to defend itself, nor exist.
There is no acceptable level of warfare against Palestinians, who are a colonized people.
There aren't any acceptable rules of engagement for the Jewish state to perpetuate it's settler colonialism.
I hate Hasbara threads
>>2865827I am from Israel and this is my favorite movie
>>2865804if you somehow magically erased netanyahu's identity and put him on a slab for a team of doctors to identify they'd say this John Doe is polish/lithuanian. that's where his parents were from. His dad's original last name was "Mileikowsky"
>>2865891looks polish to me
>>2865917are you really doing this? like there isn't a "jewish look"
>>2865919It's the Sicilian look with whatever they call those locks.
>>2865940You can easily cherry pick similar examples of arabs looking white.
>>2866542No, not really. The fact of the matter is that Ashkenazi have a very high European admixture, their genetic connection to the Middle East is very tenuous and I wonder why you are so deadset on pushing this narrative. It wouldn't even matter if they maintained genetic purity for the last 2000 years after emigrating from the Middle East, but of course they didn't.
>>2866604No one denies that the current Wester Ashkenazi population shows clear European admixture, but it is absurd to claim that there was a specific historical racial traits that distinguished European Jews. on average, they had darker skin, were shorter in stature and had black, curly hair. Virtually everyone from the thirteenth to the twentieth century, noted this. Moreover, Ashkenazim make up only half of the Jewish population in Israel. Mizrahim constitute the majority.
My point however is that the 'woke' argument that Jews are simply 'white' is detrimental to the cause, because objectively speaking, they are not, at least, not the Jews in Israel.
>>2866620>on average, they had darker skin, were shorter in stature and had black, curly hair. Like Sicilians?
>>2866620>My point however is that the 'woke' argument that Jews are simply 'white' is detrimental to the cause, because objectively speaking, they are not, at least, not the Jews in Israel.But we were talking about Ashkenazim which are the only ones that really matter. Even if they were racially pure Middle Easterners, culturally, they'd still be Europeans. It is fair to call them White. Most of them would be considered White anywhere in America for example. Nobody would look at the average Ashkenazi and wouldn't immediately classify them as a White person.
Fuck whatever Bad Empanada's retarded sperg shit about how Israel isn't White supremacist. Watch this video of Abby Martin, somebody that's actually been there and spoken with Israelis and she defines it as a White supremacist state:
https://x.com/DoubleDownNews/status/2076756444808986893 >>2866623She also did this interview with this Mizrahi, ex-IDF, anti-Zionist guy and he classifies it the same way from his own fucking experiences being born and raised there. It doesn't matter if Mizrahim are the majority. In the antebellum South there were many states and places where Blacks were the majority too. Weird hill to die on that their isn't a White supremacist hierarchy going on in Israel.
>>2866658>not that anon but are you really coming out with the "poor Mizrahis as an oppressed minority"? 90% of them want to raze Gaza to the ground, Ben-Gvir is basically the average amongst themDidn't say that, just pointing out that them being the majority doesn't make them the dominant force. I guess there are a dozens of examples I could give with minority ethnic rule.
>>2866960The real odd claim is that there isn't White supremacy in Israel and all their bullshit about an egalitarian multiethnic democracy is true. Hell they also point out they have Muslims in government, so that means they're not Jewish supremacist either!
>>2865817
so when the romans conquered judea they were just conquering their long lost annoying cousins.
no wonder people argue over whether christianity was a roman psy op against jews or a jewish psy op against rome. it was clearly both.
>>2867038>>2867160You libs would have called Marx and Engels anti-semitic
>>2868128Not really, everything Marx talks about in On the Jewish Question applies equally to Chinese diaspora and Igbos
>>2868130and you'd call it racist and anti-Semitic
>>2868132death to all merchants regardless of race
>>2868133The fact is it is a European settler colonial state despite importing Arab Jews and African Jews to fill out their ranks at the lower strata. Can't really be White supremacist unless you have other races to lord over and it's obvious why they would want the lower strata filled with Jews instead of Muslims. It's like saying America is/was a Christian supremacist state and not White supremacist because Black Americans are Christian.
>>2868141You act as if those millions of Arab Jews were forced to go there, when in fact they went to Israel of their own accord, the Jewish element in Israel is the racial element. You view this as some sort of Ashkenazi master plan and when you look at a freak like Ben-Gvir and his ilk, you see them as manipulated victims or something. you’re just a liberal obsessed with identity politics and you really ought to just accept it.
I don't give a shit of a jew is blond or brown or whatever, I know a jew is a jew, everyone in the middle east or Muslim nation knows this, only liberals like you refuse to accept it.
>>2868229also
>Can't really be White supremacist unless you have other races to lord overThis is truly the most idpol poisoned statement I have ever read. This is like arguing the Taliban would be fine with millions of Indian Muslims entering Afghanistan to be their lower strata or whatever bullshit You really are a typical Western leftist type, you would fit right in on r/breadtube
>>2869648Interestingly enough the man on the right's family would have been legally considered white in France. Algerian Jews were granted legal status to pursue French citizenship under the Cremieux Decree in 1870. Postcolonial try to argue this was a "divide and conquer" strategy by French imperialists. But the decision had actually been advocated since the 1830s by prominent French Jews, most notably Isaac Cremieux who lobbied the French government for Jewish emancipation in Algeria because he saw them as fellow jews.
Ironically many French imperialists and monarchists held a more favorable view of Muslim Algerians. They envisioned a dual political system. Napoleon III for had this "Arab Kingdom" project, a system in which Arab elites would retain a recognized aristocratic status similar to that of European nobles, while gradually reforming the feudal system to make it less burdensome for the peasantry.
>>2869712I can't tell whose the Arab and whose not in this video?
The only people who care about the Palestinians are Shiites and Palestinians themselves. The Gulf Arabs are a lot of Jew traitors and white leftists just want to virtue signal.
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