>"Wanted to have an adventure and kill some people. Joined up in ‘04, did Fallujah and Ramadi, and managed both. Hell of an excellent experience."
>"There are times in this world when, for the good of tolerance and humanity, you need to kill a motherfucker. Sadly most people who are true believers in tolerance and humanity find that activity repulsive. Which I suppose is morally good, but pragmatically a shortfall."
>"Out of curiosity, what would you say to the many Marines and Soldiers who took trophies and desecrated bodies while fighting the Japanese? I find the urinating on bodies as a poor choice, but only because of the current state of media affairs. It's amusing that today killing a man isn't worthy of comment, but god forbid you display dominance. Only 50 years ago, and for the rest of the history of warfare, this stuff was pretty standard."
>"We are going to kill thousands. By the end of it, it may be millions. Our way of life is better, and if that is what it takes to prevail, let's get this show on the road. I don't disagree with your point, I just disagree with the fact you seem to think we shouldn't do it."https://archive.org/download/graham_platner_reddit_comments/graham_platner_reddit_comments.txtthe tattoo and the racist and misogynistic stuff graham platner has said in the past were certainly red flags for me, but honestly when i actually started reading through the comments myself, i realized it's actually worse than people seem to realize. it goes beyond just teenage edgelord internet shenanigans, this is someone who seems to have a genuine fascination with killing and hurting people, he talks about it a lot and brags about it a lot, he claims that he joined the military because he wanted to kill people and that he enjoyed killing people and he constantly talks about how empowering it feels and how much he misses it.
i've known a lot of people who have served in the military and i've never known any of them to say things like this. but i have heard a few of them talk about meeting certain other members of the military who did. most people who join the military are decent normal people who join for the usual kinds of reasons - sense of duty and wanting to serve their country, having family members in the military whom they look up to and want to follow in their footsteps, seeing it as a career opportunity to build a better life for themselves, etc. and most people who have fought in combat and experienced the horrors of war don't feel very good about it and don't like to talk about it and certainly don't find it glamorous or invigorating or think of it as some kind of exciting adventure. but there is a small minority of very sick people who really do join the military just because they want to fight in a war and get to kill people and watch people die, they think that war and killing are very neat things and they talk about it and obsess over it a lot and they genuinely seem to enjoy it.
i would like to think that graham platner is not that kind of person, but reading the comments he's made over the years, he legitimately seems like a psychopath. he's expressed some remorse for the things he's said, but that's not worth very much when he's simultaneously trying to pursue a political career and running for one of the highest positions of power in american society, a position that would give him far more power and therefore far more opportunities to kill and hurt and dominate other human beings than his military career ever did. i don't think a person who has said these kinds of things should be allowed that level of power.
The left should stay away from soldiers those awful men love murder rape and torture. Academics and baristas will lead the revolution.
>>2826855>The left should stay away from soldiers those awful men love murder rape and torture. Academics and baristas will lead the revolution.you need soldiers, but the soldiers have to have the same principles as you, not the opposite. hope that helps!
>>2826896Soldiers are just cops for overseas
A question to non-burgers: how do you cope with the fact that if the US goverment decides that what happened in Gaza needs to happen where you live the most you can expect from the american left (a country with 340 million people) is that they vote for and run cover online for a Nazi mass murderer?
>>2826855>The left should stay away from soldiers those awful men love murder rape and torture. Academics and baristas will lead the revolution.Not true, Trotsky hired many Ex-Tsarist military specialists, Zhukov originally fought in the white army, Mao never would have won the Chinese civil war if he didn't accept nationalists who defected to his side, neither would Castro or Ho Chi Minh, also Tito and Gaddafi original fought in bourgeois militaries.
>>2826970not like I expected anything else
>>2826966
german nazis and chinese landlords can rest in piss, because they won't be missed.
Leftypol will still shill for him
>>2826978You need four more bars for your rap verse
>>2826980>>2826978pigs mad, state of israel shouldn't exist
>>2826792I don't understand how Platner is getting away with these psycho comments. People have been disavowed for less.
Why should anyone trust this guy?
>>2826923has a revolution ever been won without soldiers
>>2827024He’s gonna be the new Democrat sin eater like Joe Manchin and Kristen Cinema. Especially since John Fetterman is actively crumbling worse than Trump and Biden despite being half the age.
>>2826966
ah yeah socioeconomic progress to stop millions of people starving over the next century is exactly the same motivation as wanting to kill because you have a murder fetish
>>2826896>you need soldiers, but the soldiers have to have the same principles as you, not the opposite.Absolutely. People like Hugo Chavez was a military guy, and was a leftist. He was also not a psycho, motivated by bloodlust.
Platner is clearly a psycho. Psychos can't be trusted. Period!
>>2827045He basically coopted the Hoxhaist guerrillas he was fighting in the 70s, his is arguably their only victory that wasn’t completely reactionary
>>2827028theyre kinda all related tho
>>2827024>I don't understand how Platner is getting away with these psycho comments. People have been disavowed for less.same reason trump gets away with all of his psychopathic behavior and nobody wants to talk about anything but his most superficial faux pas, because these are the kinds of people the american meritocracy elevates to positions of power and you can't truly disavow them without also disavowing the meritocracy. the so-called "successful" people with great careers who make all the important decisions in our society, politicians and business owners and web entrepeneurs and respected mainstream journalists and media figures, all these kinds of people are deeply invested in the meritocracy and they want to believe that a person like trump is just an anomaly, that there's no way that this great system that rewards ergomania and overambition and hyperindividualism could possibly be bullshit and could be creating a society run by narcissists and psychopaths.
>>2826976You speak as if platner really is a genius strategist like zhukov. His reddit prove you wrong
>>2827120>>2826855 said to stay from soldiers not platner specifically
>>2827125Platner is representative of soldiers in general, all of whom are criminals
>>2827127You're contradicting your last post.
>>2826970It wouldn't be shocking at all, since leftists are not communists, I don't expect anything from them.
>>2827065My mistake, but he fought in the imperial army in WW1 so my point still stands
>>2827120I was not talking about planter but I was talking about leftists who are veterans who have fell victim to the poverty draft and who have worked to atone, Planter has never apologized for what he did so he is different, I would still rather him win then the bitch who he is running against because I think the politicians who wage wars are just as responsible as the people who fight them but whatever.
>>2827140>I would still rather him win then the bitch who he is running against I don't mind lesser evil arguments, as in most cases is the correct tactical option. But to believe Platner is someone who can be trusted as some "progressive firebrand", as some people clearly believe, is nuts.
As an AIPAC financier, thank you for telling the TRUTH anon.
>Platner bad post #92138405
It's so funny that the hasbara campaign hasn't worked.
>>2827272he doesn't really even understand what is truly wrong about killing another human being. he only thinks in terms of what it means for the person being killed and what it means for the rest of the world, but he misses the most crucial element - what it means for the killer, the person who has taken it upon himself to play the role of god and decide which humans should live and which should die. he doesn't consider that a moral dilemma at all and he enjoys the feeling of having that power, he doesn't see it as a terrible burden to have to live with but as an exhilarating positive feeling. textbook psychopath.
Anti-zionism imploding acussing one another of being pro-israel for being for or against a basic ass socdem LMAO
>>2826896Most modern day amerikkkan soldiers are overweight retards who have never fought in a war. They’re just as useful as all the fat fuck militia larpers. The only genuinely useful soldier would be a logistics officer and logistics NCO
War criminal that Leftypol simps for
>>2827218>The American left should do everything it can to keep people like this out of their movement.he is not even trying to join The Left™, he is part of a right wing bourgeois party, his platform is making the US military great again, if you want to ride his dick so be it but don't pretend you are much different from ACPoids that simp for Putin
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