Anarkids come out AGAINST accessible high-speed rail system.
Please tell me again how anarchism isn’t simply petit-bourgeois rebellion?
They are calling a project that will greatly increase accessibility and reduce the car and oil monopoly “anti-indigenous” or whatever. How can anyone take these people seriously?
94 posts and 7 image replies omitted.>>2839638land rights aren't real
property rights aren't real
no one has some eternal claim to any piece of land
all nations and borders should be abolished and everyone should be forced to mix so we can get rid of this stupid blood and soil nonsense
>>2839639land rights are perfectly valid
property right are perfectly valid
almost everyone belongs somewhere
if possible all nations should be confined in clear borders so that everyone can exist in the way most civilizationally befitting them in the environment they are naturally most compatible with
>>2839639so black buffalo soldier separatism and supremacy good, white or Jewish separatism and supremacism, bad?
>>2839641>almost everyone belongs somewhereRight. It's called earth
>befitting them in the environment they are naturally most compatible withHomo sapiens are compatible with many parts of the planet?
>>2839642They are equally bad.
>>2839639t. pic rel
"land rights aren't real broooo, just do whatever you want lelz"
>>2839646yeah nah
none of this would've even been an issue had natives been given at least land and autonomy over it to pursue their own policies like they should have
>>2839647lmfao ok, i guess the jews are in the walls? Your type needs a high dosage of anti-psych meds. 3 turdist trash. jewish zionists are not flocking to leftypol they got better things to do you have to be off your rocker to think zionists are here in some plot. thats reactionary bullshit and you know it. im sure theres ice agents here at times but the only israelis here are socialists if any
>>2839647>No, it impossible to build some more highrises, we must kill each other for the holy land!>>2839650Homo sapiens are native to Africa. Nice try, creationist.
>>2839653out of africa theory is politically motivated pseudoscience
>>2839647If they do a genocide of the natives to build this rail line then I'm against it but somehow I don't think they will
>>2839657they're worried about property right meaning they will be denied access to hunting grounds or that it will force parcelization of land and further canadization of their custom or even bringing down more unwanted foreigners for the purpose of maintaining new rail
>>2839651>Zio completely crashes out and starts rambling incoherently after being called outtypical
>there's israeli "socialists" herekek you are actually retarded lmfao
>>2839653That is what you advocate for yes. I advocate for the opposite of that. Which is to respect indigenous land rights
>>2839657I think those native communities probably have a better grasp of the issues regarding the rail line construction on their lands than you do
Im gonna be the enlightened centrist adult-in-the-room here. Yes, "land back" is mystical woo woo and mostly reactionary. But also, indigenous people are targeted for primitive accumulation precisely because they are the stewards of so much land.
We can both empathise with indigenous people, show solidarity with their struggles, while also educating them that their problems can only be solved with the overthrow of capitalism, which will necessary result in "their" land being put to total societal use, and the free movement of individual worldwide meaning there WILL be "foreigners" in "their" land inevitably.
>>2839655It's not pseudoscience just a simplification. What continent we started from is one thing, what continent we developed on or moved over as we developed is another. But it doesn't actually matter to my overall argument as humanity evolved on earth and can collectively claim it's ownership together.
As for "Native" Americans we do have modern genetic testing that show neanderthal DNA which proves they did not pop from the ground but came from Eurasia. No questionable archeology needed.
>>2839660>I advocate for the opposite of that. OK, but if that is your only goal then stop trying to pretend you are communist.
>>2839665>OK, but if that is your only goal Kek, so completely busted you have to make up nonsensical positions that nobody proposed just to cope
Pretty cringe my guy
>>2838830It does make sense to struggle against gentrification but a railway is not responsible for it. Yes capitalist development bad, no opposing railway or other such projects doesn't actually impede it.
>>2839669>you have to make up nonsensical positions that nobody proposed I made up absolutely nothing and linked to everything. Anyone can read the thread and see for themselves that you are a weaselly ethnonationalist pretending to be "lefty" because you would get no support otherwise.
>>2839675meds schizo. You're literally just mad at having your zionism called into question
"Ethnonationalist" lmfao keep coping you projecting faggot
>>2839661>while also educating them that their problems can only be solved with the overthrow of capitalism, which will necessary result in "their" land being put to total societal useladies and gentleman i present to you *brown man's burden*
>>2839675>>2839690>I'm not the zionist you are !incredibly funny discussion
It's telling how a "Montreal" group posted this in English.
>>2839706Montreal is like 50% Anglophone, by far the most Anglo city in Quebec.
>>2839690Can't wait for the stronger capitalists to crush your precious """""Indigenous""""" landlord rights.
>>2839727>Can't wait for [] capitalists to crush your precious Indigenous land rightsYup, that much is obvious. That's why I called you a zio dumdum. That's why you are Ben Gvir
>>2839658>they're worried about property right meaning they will be denied access to hunting grounds or that it will force parcelization of land and further canadization of their custom and I understand that but that can't be used as an excuse to block progress. can't we just have wildlife tunnels under the rail line, and give the native groups unoccupied land on the other side of their territory as compensation. it's not like canada has a shortage of land
>>2839727>"""""Indigenous""""" landlord rightsNot a thing in Canada. Land yielded under treaty or Aboriginal title is held collectively by the nation and can't be owned by individuals.
>>2839641May I inquire for one Thought about the Volk?
>>2839729Capitalist landlords are capitalist landlords no matter the ethnicity and Amerindian landlords are the same exact thing as Israeli landlords. Fundamentally you and the zionists are the same: you both want landlord rights to be based solely on ethnicity.
But the only people you will get as support are unorganized anarchists and mentally ill maoists, so good luck.
>>2839759>hahaha the occupied colonial subject and the occupier colonialists are actually the same thing lolzKys zioscum
>>2839765You simply want to change what ethnic group gets to be the landlord. Communism wants to get rid of the position of landlord all together. And unless the system itself is changed, it just temporarily moves who is on top of the pyramid. At least until they are overthrown by some other group in turn and the new group becomes the new landlord.
>57 new posts>not one person engaging with the bit in >>2838637 about how New Zealand gives a pragmatic, actually-existing example of what greater recognition of native rights looks like.>usual tedious slop about "indigenous landlords" and you wonder why this shithole is dying.
>>2840082
things that never happened for 2 million!
>>2840082
yes that thread existed, i deleted it because it was obviously fake as fuck larping
>>2840166This, my friend mods here and all LARP shitposts get deleted pretty quickly, so no thats normal. people slide old posts at random all the time, that was probably unrelated. there's no discord jewish conspiracy against leftypol and reddit, but its fun to pretend there is, right?
>>2840166Anon you're probably talking to the same person (juchecultschizo) who made the post. He does this, he makes some retarded and flatly unbelievable post then comes in pretending to be other people in an attempt to validate said post.
He's clearly trying to do some myth making for his fantasies, still haven't worked out why though, outside of mental illness i mean..
>>2840198It's not just one person, there's multiple mentally ill maoists and juche posters who are doing this, ruining the board. 3rd worldists are creating pro 3rd world threads, then fake anti 3rd world threads to make the opponents of 3rd worldism look like zionist operatives, because the victim and persecution complex is what gives cults legitimacy.
>>2840205
>>Good, you don’t deserve productive discussion
What does this even mean in relation to anything??
>>2840208
>Found the 3rd turdist
>>2839829>actually-existing example of what greater recognition of native rights looks likeSeems great for them but it's still a liberal reform where capitalism and property ownership exists. Reform vs revolution etc
>>2839829>pragmatic, actually-existing example of what greater recognition of native rights looks likenothing says communism like reifying property and rights lmfao
>>2840254
>communism is about vague abstractions (that are already realizable under capitalism anyway)
*loud incorrect buzzer noise*
>>2840254
radlibs actually believe this. but you are baiting
>>2840266
>physically cant even picture in their mind proletarians acting together in struggle for aims that immediately concern only their own class
lol ok champ
>>2840251>>2840252the liberal reform illustrates a tepid step towards redressing previous wrongs without doing something manifestly unreasonable. it illustrates an area between "under communism natives can get fucked as with the status quo, sux2be on the wrong side of the productive forces loser" and "under communism all kkkrakkkas will be deported from turtle island", and pointing directly at new zealand and going "it's this, it actually works in real life right now in a nice country that even speaks english" is a lot more convincing (and a lot less boring) than if you were to describe all these individual reforms as hypotheticals.
>>2840302>>land back for people with darker shade of skin>>Amazing>>Land Back for lighter toned skin>>Reactionary shitlordsthe aboslute state of modern leftism
>>2840296Reform isn't inherently bad in itself. The problem is that liberalism wants to redirect worker power so that it only seeks ever shifting reforms and never achieves socialism. It's just a carrot they dangle in front of people. A carrot they can move closer or pull away at will in order to keep workers in line.
As for the Landback people, once you pull away all the post-colonialist academic talk, they are just nationalists. And if they ever get their way they will just stab communists in the back exactly the same way most nationalist movements did in the 20th century. Fundamentally they only see leftists as useful idiots.
the biggest obsticle for anarchists is not the state but rather the fact that they are just really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really reallyreally really really really really realy lame
>>2839647Zionazis explicitly say Israel is their holy land and belong to them according to the Torah.
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