/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Because high speed rails can’t exist under anarchist definitions of ownership and property. Highways and subways can’t exist either.

>>2838312
We need a word for reactionaries (in this case NIMBYs) who use pseudo-leftist/Marxist language to launder their ideology. Assuming one doesn't exist already.
Albeit this could just be a false flag campaign.

>>2838330
Anarchists see public transit as a form of centralized state control or something.

>>2838312
>How can anyone take these people seriously?
idk but they seem more serious than communists that pretend stock markets are socialism

>>2838312
https://anarchistnews.org/content/anarchists-against-high-speed-rail-quebec-windsor-corridor
They made a valiant effort to cobble together environmentalist and anti-colonialist arguments against the train but it's clear their main concern is gentrification. Surely there are more direct ways to combat that than opposing public transit.

>>2838339
Opposing public transit to oppose gentrification is fucking retarded. Are these morons against Mamdani’s free buses in NYC too?

>>2838339
>>2838348
So basically it's anarcho-NIMBYism

Who cares? These people have no relevance.

Marxism has been the last refuge of the bourgeois for 60 years now, just accept that the proletariat isn’t capable nor does it desire power

Why do you want first worlders getting even more development and treats? When is enough enough?

>>2838384
I'm not really capable but I do desire power, I think one out of two isn't bad.

>>2838393
You would be worse at it than the bourgeois are, with even higher stakes

First world privilege.

>>2838312
>They are calling a project that will greatly increase accessibility and reduce the car and oil monopoly “anti-indigenous”
A legitimate concern given the ongoing realities of colonialism in Canada, but to my knowledge the rail system isn't expected to go through any Indigenous territories. I may be mistaken, and if I am it's a safe bet that the government is going to try to fuck those people over. Beyond that though the supposed ecological justification for opposing it seems silly. Habitat destruction is one thing, but surely cutting emissions and weakening the oil lobby is a far more pressing ecological concern.

Total NIMBY death

Many here are unaware of how deeply Canadian anarchism is interwoven with Indigenous resistance communities. This is a reflection of a fundamental material reality, that the Canadian state's mode of production is predicated on ongoing primitive accumulation, which necessitates a particular relationship of anarchism to Indigenous resurgence. This relationship is a structural imperative rooted in the specific character of Canadian settler colonialism.

The development of Canada is not a completed historical process but a continually unfolding program of what can be termed again, primitive accumulation, the process by which capitalist social relations forcibly separate people from the land and the means of their social reproduction in the means of development and expansion. This occurs through the violent expropriation and dispossession of the Indigenous peoples, of their lands, the central condition for the establishment of private property and capitalist social relations. In Canada, this dispossession is not an historical relic it is an ongoing process, with Indigenous nations whose territories are coveted by the resource extraction industry remaining a primary target of state and corporate aggression. The work of sub-dividing reserves and destroying collective land systems has been a deliberate policy to "implant a spirit of individual responsibility" revealing the state's mandate to impose market principles on indigenous swaths of land. This is the material ground upon which the Canadian anarchist movement is forced to organize upon.

This ongoing primitive accumulation is the root of the structural antagonism between the settler state and Indigenous peoples. As the state and capital work to discipline Indigenous life to the cold rationality of market principles, Indigenous resistance is provoked not primarily as a response to wage exploitation but as a struggle over land itself. Indigenous peoples are situated antagonistically to capital not only as laborers but because their very Indigeneity has been in the way of development of Canada for well over a century. This material fact has made the resistance of Indigenous nations, not the settler working class, the primary site of struggle against the most brutal forms of capital accumulation in Canada.


Given that the capitalist class's project in Canada is fundamentally an expropriation of land, the Indigenous movement as the force most directly confronting this primitive accumulation constitutes a sort of vanguard of anti-capitalist resistance in the country of Canada. The state's response to this movement is not a series of isolated incidents but a systematic war of suppression, employing cultural and ethnic genocide as active policy to expand the Canadian colonial state. This ongoing war creates the material conditions for an anarchist methodology to flourish, as the struggle necessitates an organizational form rooted in local autonomy, direct action, and the establishment of collective security in the face of state repression.

>>2838480
>>2838485
>juche flag
>anarcho-primitivist talking points
Maybe you should change flags?

>>2838485

Alderville First Nation Chief Dave M. Simpson has publicly stated that the Alto project is a concern due to a lack of meaningful consultation and unclear benefits for the treaty territory.

>>Indigenous communities have expressed major concerns about the physical and ecological destruction the rail line would cause to their traditional territories.

>>The Mohawk community of Kanesatake has voiced concerns that the project will infringe upon or jeopardize their ancestral land claims. There is an expectation that the project must be "structured in a way that acknowledges and supports long-term self-determination," an expectation they feel is not being met.

>>Environmental studies note that the rail line creates a "heavily fortified wall" of up to 60 meters wide, guarded by continuous wire fencing with buried skirts, which would devastate wildlife corridors and local ecosystems.


Those of you who only have orthodox Marxism within your thought process are not equipped to understand the position these anarchists are taking. They aren't setting the tone, they are following the most radical of the indigenous community, and their fundamental critique frames the entire megaproject as an extension of the "settler colony founded on the genocide and dispossession of Indigenous Peoples and lands primarily for resource extraction." They quite literally want Canada abolished. Stop applying social reformist perspectives to people who want total burger collapse.

>>2838489
>>maybe you should change flags

Should I?!?!?

Wanting the total burger collapse doesn't make someone a primitivist, does it? Oh, it's adorable, really. You'll watch a leftist perform a flawless materialist dissection of Israel illegitimate settler state, built on expansion, primitive accumulation, ongoing ethnic cleansing, cannot exist in a socialist world because its very foundation is imperial force. Applause. Nods all around. Then you take that same scalpel and turn it toward their own backyard say, KKKANADA, Amerikkka and suddenly it's "Whoa, slow down, that's different, it's too late, the settlers are already here, we have to work within the system." The perspective of pathetic imperialist swine.

You think the right wing chuds were lying about us maoists? Not at all. They were paying attention. They knew we meant it when we said we're anti‑Amerikkka, anti-west, not just anti‑Bibi. The whole rotten settler project, from sea to shining sea, from the Great White North to the Gulf of Mexico. No exemptions. No "but we're the good settlers."

>>2838489

Name one Anarcho-primitivist talking point in, >>2838485


You'd have to be a total outsider a total a lurker or a glowie to look at them talking points and shout anarcho‑primitivism.

Any actual leftist who's read a damn thing besides online comments can immediately tell which two or three tendencies this sits between. And spoiler, anarcho-primitivism ain't one of them. I'm not saying the person don't hold primitivist tendencies, but there's not a single anarcho prim argument there.

>>2838494
He already deleted his most primitivist post that I linked so I can't quote anything from him…

In any case, the whole "indigenous wannabe landlords vs settler working class" is simply ethnocentrism. Communism is when everyone owns everything together. Having some random ancestors live on a random geographic area doesn't give specific people the eternal rights to own that land forever.

>>2838503
Why do leftists choose native land rights as the hill to die on anyways? I thought we were supposed to be against private ownership of land based on blood relations.

>>2838503

I read both them posts that got put up. Both read straight up like Third Worldist Maoism or anti-colonial anarchism plain as day. They using materialism to break down how your settler state functions, thats marxism in the highest level. And what you do? Scream "primitivism!" Cause you know how bad a first-world white man looks when he tries to shout down anti-colonial liberation.

explain to me how you any different from an Israeli who says "yeah, but we got a right to exist"? Same damn thing. Reactionary. Anti-materialist. Y'all ain't revolutionaries, you just settlers who learned to paint social democracy as radicalism. i aint fooled at all

>>2838504
>>to be against private ownership of land based on blood relations.
>>Ancestors live on a random geographic area doesn't give specific people the eternal rights to own that land forever

Zionists.

Now let's talk about how dirty you motherfucking crackers really are. You sit here, call my comrade a "primitivist" just because he uses materialist analysis on your precious settler state. Then you tell him he can't use the Juche symbol? The same Juche that's been a weapon for anti-colonial struggles across the Third World? The same Juche that fought alongside and welcomed the representatives from every tendency y'all try to silence in this thread? The black liberationists around the world were juche. The anti-settlers were juche. the third worldist first wave, was JUCHE.

Sit your dumb ass down. Show some respect and listen. Or shut the fuck up if you can't offer a real, vigorous materialist response to what my comrade actually said. Because if all you got is name calling and tone policing, confusion, diversion, lies, and half truths, you ain't no leftist and damn sure as fuck aint a comrade. god damn, my comrades told me to come here to support them, and i never met so much chronically online white boys. you guys sit the fuck down in real life. where do you chauvinist tards exist and organize? you sit online and jerk off with the acp and other crackers on twitch. im 56 years old, you are all runts. a lot to learn.

Keep playing. We'll break you down on every front. Just like we always do.

>>2838505
>Scream "primitivism!"
lol such exaggeration. I read his post as having an anti-technology undercurrent. Since he already deleted it, I can't even take closer look and see if I misread it.
>tries to shout down anti-colonial liberation.
Again what shouting? Also 20th century anticolonial liberation was a failure. 99% of anticolonist movements are nothing but smaller capitalists. They switched out the bourgeoisie to the local ethnicity. Now what?
>an Israeli who says "yeah, but we got a right to exist"?
Yeah they are humans who should be allowed to exist. What they can't be allowed to do is kill Palestinians for their own ethnocentrist project.
>Sit your dumb ass down.
This rhetoric only works on liberals who abandon ship the instant it doesn't appeal to them. irl ethnocentrism will only gain you the support of your own ethnicity. Communism is universal on the other hand.

>>2838312
Petite bourgeoisie love trains they can put their little shops along the route and get mucho dinero.

Someone tweet this thread to Caleb Maupin so he can make a livestream about it and call the Montreal anarchists "Malthusians".

>>2838485
So you're saying a Marxist position would be to oppose Canada having high-speed rails on the basis of muh natives?

>>2838512

So let me get this straight. You really think we're only gonna win over one race? Or do you mean I might scare reactionary settlers with my language? Meanwhile in real life, the base of leftists who actually give a damn about Third World liberation, anti-colonial struggle, and fighting white supremacy is growing every single god damn day. Even the DSA, the fucking DSA (way more worthy than zionist CRAKKKER CIAUSA - CPUSA) has been dragged kicking and screaming into adopting these talking points just to stay relevant.

So tell me, how exactly you gonna sit here and paint us as the ones who lost the field of dominance in leftist thought? Like we're trapped by our race? When there are probably millions more white leftists who will defend Black liberation theory, anti-colonialism, and anti-white supremacy over whatever chauvinist garbage the ACP and their friends are peddling?

here's what the fuck I really find funny. You think we're "limited to one race" when the federal government is so goddamn butthurt about our branch of leftist thought that they wrote an entire national security objective with billions of dollars in funding specifically to counter this leftist tendency. You know about NSPM‑7, right? The main target is written in a way that clearly uses "antifa" as a stand in for "Third Worldist." third worldists drive the anti-Zionist left, whereas normal socialist arent inherently anti Israel existing, and they aint automatically pro palestinian armed struggle (3rd worldists and insurrectionary anarchists automatically are) which makes them targets from nearly every powerful shady actors on earth from jewish groups to the FOP, to real glowies. NSPM7….nearly every analyst who helped write it also writes articles against… you guessed it decolonial anarchism and Maoism. and 3rd worldism.

Good luck with that. We're not going anywhere. Your side is the one losing ground.

>>2838519

Yes, you think the war agains the canadian settler state is over? whatever the indigenous nations and their struggle decides, is what the anarchists and Maoists will support. this is what happens when the base you embedd yourself in isn't a bunch of middle class crackers who riot when indigenous peoples disrupt them on their way to work at the oil pipelines, or golf courses being built on their lands

>>2838520
How will protesting against a high-speed rail help destroy the Canadian settler state?

These crakkkers are the exact type of "communists" who will sit there and call Indigenous anarchists "reactionary" for beating Canadian pipeline workers with sticks in self‑defense after those workers attacked them for blockading their own land. In their version of communism, which is just white chauvinist dengism (so not dengism), the men who go to work on stolen Indigenous land aren't colonizers. They're "pioneers." "Blue‑collar adventurers." Just carving out a better life for their families. That's the mindset of a settler, not a worker.

It's the same logic as, "But but, the Israelis are workers too! Hamas is a religious extremist group, wahhh we came here to forge a better life" Zionist CPUSA swine. They purged our entire chapter for speaking truth. Fuck the CPUSA.

And fuck the ACP too. You think this branch of fake leftists have us outnumbered? The ACP got laughed the fuck out of every serious base. They'll be reduced to a more openly chauvinist version of the CPUSA totally irrelevant. Midwestern Marx and their settler fetish for manifest destiny, for "Western civilization" will not creep into leftism it will be reduced to obscurity. Useless. Already stamped out by the real vanguards and thinkers in present and history.

>>2838312
When you love Native Americans so much you inadvertently become a carcuck.

>>2838526

I'm not localized to Canada. aint ever even been. But let me ask ya how exactly is aligning with the bourgeois settler structures of white supremacy over Indigenous nations supposed to achieve anything? True communists should support anything that agitates, that acts as a force against the land‑grabbing, the profit‑hustling, the civilization of the settler.

My tendency is not workerist. I'm pro‑worker, yes, but I don't give a damn if an Israeli or a white reactionary is a worker. They are supremacists and threats to the colonized first, last, always. Their labor doesn't erase their position on stolen land.

Now look at the Mohawk warriors. Armed up. Shut down the development of a golf course and condos. Did that single act "dismantle the settler state"? No. And it didn't have to. It was an insurrectionary function a mother fuckin' glazing blow, not the final knockout. but them punches need to build up for generations and decades. endless struggle. endure as long as possible. And real communists support that shit ya heard me? They do not stand with the white settlers who rioted because the Canadian military didn't open fire on the people inconveniencing their precious settler lifestyles. they dont side with the white reactionarys who cry and commit vigalntism when black workers loot.

You want unity? Start by siding with the colonized, not crying for the comfort of the colonizer you pathetic imperialist loving westoids

If you don't want total burger collapse you are a weak, coddled settler who seeks more treats, and is afraid to destroy the free market, because you actually don't want communism, you want free market-socialism

>>2838520
>You really think we're only gonna win over one race?
"Settlers" are anyone not indigenous. There is only a few million indigenous left. And you actually think yelling how 98% of of the populations needs to leave is a winning strategy?
>Even the DSA, the fucking DSA
Those are the guys who snap their fingers instead of clap, right? Real warrior material there.
>adopting these talking points just to stay relevant.
aka being trendy
>field of dominance in leftist thought
You mean WESTERN ACADEMIC leftist thought. That is to say the weakest strain of leftism that can possibly exist that only benefits a bookselling petite bourgeoisie
>the ACP
ACP is a cowboy larping joke. But that doesn't make DSA any better.

Welp, the comments on that post are not having it.

>>2838531
ChatGPT-ass post.

>>2838533


trendy? where? this has been the dominant idea since the black liberation movement and it's height. Academic left? Brother I welcome you to walk into the hood of Oakland, Philadelphia, Seattle, LA, Chicago, even portland a white ass city, and find the most working class or poor leftist space, and go ahead, see if they get down with you or me. you dont know shit you can admit i aint lying and say yeah but most of the left is retarded and i cant wait to see yall fail but you cant say we are not the dominant thought tendancy outside of social media.

>>2838531
White people aren't going to tear down their cities' infrastructure and decide to live like cavemen in the name of "the indigenous," moron. I've literally seen this same argument made by Turd Worldists that TWOO COMMUNITS should tear down shit like hospitals and large-scale housing projects on the basis those things are an affront to Natives. Fucking stupid with zero pragmatism.

>>2838322
Isn't this the same argument that the "Space Commune" imbeciles made, that public transit and walkable cities are "Malthusian" because they're part of degrowth and that true socialism is when everyone has a car and a single-family home with a lawn?

>>2838540
>> 3rd worldists want to tear down hospitals and large scale housing projects

You are a ZIONIST. Epstein.

>>Turd worldists


Shut up, I'd smack the shit out of you talking shit to my comrades like that in person and you wouldnt do anything about it. thats why i hate the internet i cant check nobody who wouldnt get big outside of here. where are you anti-third worldist leftists at? come bring that energy in person, 3rd worldists are always in the streets, and the only people who show up about anything are groups like "the traditional workers" party and other nazis, so it kind of makes me wonder, why is aggressively anti third worldist in leftist spaces? the nazi white trash that got sick of getting their teeth put to curbs, so pretend to be leftists and feds online?

it's not going to be rubber anymore, soon it's going to be live lead. bye bye faggots. the 3rd worldists are going to go out like their icons, bloody, broke, and without the rest of the world even caring. don't worry, to all you sane socialists, these agents of chaos and hatred are about to be removed from our civilization, permanetely.

>>2838544
Schizo, take your meds before you an hero.

>>2838507
What is this retarded ethno-babble?

>>2838370
This.

I can't wait to see Montreal's anarchists eat themselves over this rail project that will inevitably be built regardless of protests. It's not like any of them have the balls to engage in violence at the construction sites or whatever. In a few years, I will enjoy riding that rail taking day trips to Montreal and Toronto from Detroit.

>>2838531
>bourgeois settler structures of white supremacy over Indigenous nations
blood and soil traditionalism is retarded when everyone does it, including natives lol. theres nothing inherently special about them. until they eliminate their medicine men and ridiculous notions of "spiritual connection to the land" or whatever evola-esque shit they say, we arent getting anywhere.

>>2838507
>"anyone I don't like is a ZIONIST"

Funny enough, Turd Worldists act more like Zionists than any white socialist does, given their obsession with going back to a mythical past sprinkled with ethno-nationalism and mysticism.

>>2838550
"Indigenists" are just Zionists with red skin.

>>2838535
How are HSRs colonial but airports not?

>>2838544
>>bragging about beating up white workers who want to advance and defend their culture

First off thats admission to terrorism, and Second, you're the reason most white people hate the left. There was nothing about leftism that made white folks think communism was anti‑white until Maoists and anarchists started running around assaulting randoms and stealing shit for years, turning urban american life into even more of a nightmare. this is what destruction and rebellion with no aim acheives. Congrats, you radicalized them against us. Good job. i almost kind of hope nspm7 wipes antifa out, now i hate the word antifa, but when you realize people say antifa to mean third worldists, you realize how many people these kids pissed off. even chomsky called them a gift to the right and its exactly what turd worldists are. say antifa to any person who works a real job and they go cringe, or get mad. workers of all races hate them and they really only convince gay white people, its a lie that white workers are for this shit just queer whites thats it.

>>2838553

This white people have been in the americas for so long that treating this like israel is what makes 3rd worldists cringe. if anything the natives that want to return to their nations from thousands of years or whatever the fuck ago are the real zionists. BUT MUH BIRTHRIGHT

>>2838554

lolol anarchists oppose airports too. theyre just agents of chaos which is why anti american foreign assets love them but make no mistake theyre not useful to socialism, socialism is something that comes through legal means at this stage of western capitalism, that is unless you believe the western markets must be destroyed which is what muh turd worldists believe.

>>2838539
Black Americans are also settlers. How exactly does "black liberation" deal with that fact?

>muh indigenous
Can we just admit the toothpaste is already out of the tube and no amount of self-flagellation from white settlers is going to undo the past 400 years of history?

Also, high speed rails are the shit. Any socialist country would build them because they're infrastructure that's geared towards the people. The only reason why American and Canadian trains generally suck is because of the car lobby and big oil, also the airline industry. Building this rail from Montreal to Detroit is objectively a good thing for working people. I'm not going to sacrifice progress for Native feelings.

>>2838565
Trvke. If "indigenous nationalism" is supposed to be anything but anti-white racialism we'll need to send back a whole bunch of recent nonwhite immigrants as well

>>2838568
It's a worthless ideology in the US and Canada because Native Americans have very low populations compared to settlers. Not to mention a lot of them are right-wing as fuck.

>>2838568

Most of the leftard "organizers" you see in the US aren't working real jobs. They're anti‑work yet they claim to be pro‑worker? The reality is, labor militancy is dead in this country canada included. What you're left with is a handful of Third Worldists, anarchists, and Maoists who are more defined by personality disorders than revolutionary politics. Spend five minutes with them and you'll see it BPD, oppositional defiant disorder, the whole clinical picture. These aren't revolutionaries they're school‑shooter types who want to burn the market and society down, not socialize it. if it wasnt anarchism or communism theyd attatch to pure nihilistic hatred of society and still be a mess of human beings. these are the people who would be no use to socialist society anyways.

the part that makes them real dangerous… they've wrecked the left. The antifa crowd went from woke anarchists to full‑on "Third Turdist maoists" and now normal working people Black, white, doesn't matter see the left as a mob of rabid, anti‑white Islamists. after years ppl are sick of their shit. I work construction. Guys on the site don't see "Black liberation" when they look at these people they see a psyop designed to scare whites out of communism and play right into far‑right conspiracies about anti‑white leftism. Go ahead look up the new black panther party in philadelphia talking shit on ice, theyre not talking black nationalist talking points, but theyre trying to trojan horse 3rd worldism into the black community again and guess what most black people are conservative and calling them out. go ahead, google black panthers for international society philly and read the hate they get from the black community, and really look into the comments. its the same as this anarchist instagrams comments. workers hate these people. socialists who are normal people dont get this much hate but anarchists and 3rd worldists are hated by the people they claim to fight for. so theyre just larpers.

So can we all just agree? Anarchists and Maoists are nihilistic, mentally ill, and a liability to any serious movement.

That said I started on /pol/. I still respect commies who actually know what they're talking about. Leftypol has never bought into the nonsense you see on anarchist and Maoist subreddits, you see those little echo chambers crying about "leftypol being too white" or "against intersectionality and critical race theory." Good. Keep it up boys.

I hope these people burn out. I hope they get wrecked by the reactionaries they love to provoke. Then maybe we can finally organize the working class for real, without these chaotic clowns dragging us down.

>>2838576
>What you're left with is a handful of Third Worldists, anarchists, and Maoists who are more defined by personality disorders than revolutionary politics. Spend five minutes with them and you'll see it BPD, oppositional defiant disorder, the whole clinical picture.
Every single anarchist space I've been to in the past 10 years about half the comrades were clearly autistic. And not Kanye West autistic but anime LARPer autistic.

>>2838578

Dude, there are left tendencies I hate more than anarchists and Maoists, but I don't think I've ever met leftists who caught the spectrum bug as hard as these two camps. They are some of the most tism'd out people out there. And that's the real reason they hate formal organizations tbh you know they lash out on the CPUSA, and other orgs, all those are filled with normies, and they just can't function in those spaces.

So what is it about these tendencies that makes them so anti‑normal? Like, I'm not trying to be rude, but I genuinely cannot picture a normal person being swayed by them. Anarchists and Maoists aren't the face of Marxism in America they're the underbelly. The weird basement dwellers. The ones who make the rest of us look insane by association. but why?

>>2838596
Anarchists and Maoists use lots of cult-like psychology tricks to pickup and keep recruits. They target the socially isolated, mentally ill and the homeless, use love bombing, struggle sessions are quasi-religious group confessionals and the black and white thinking appeals to the Autists.
Average people with social support don't fall for those types of tricks as often and when they do their friends tend to bail them out faster.

>>2838617
Also keep in mind that a lot of autistic people are prone to personalization and will see anything and everything as a personal attack on them. Like if the grocery store runs out of their "safe food" cookies they will have a meltdown and start screaming that the grocery stores are conspiring against them. Or if their special interest is Harry Potter and they overhear someone saying they think Harry Potter books are terrible that autist will feel like they were personally attacked and go into fight or flight mode.

>>2838617


You're not wrong. Even the Maoist manipulators came from the fringe themselves. Take Jared from the Red Guards AUSTIN TEXAS, guy was a train rider with face tattoos. He wasn't some polished, well together mastermind manipulating the vulnerable from a distance. He was the fringe. He lived it. Slept in squats, hopped freights, had the. The manipulation, if you want to call it that, wasn't some top‑down cult recruitment alone, it was fringe on fringe manipulation. Damaged people leading damaged people deeper into the margins.

The overlap between anarchism and Maoism shouldn't just be studied in theory in the texts It needs to be studied in the lives these people actually lead. The train hoppers, the crust punks, the street kids, the ex‑cons, the addicts who found politics instead of recovery. why? what is it about these 2 tendencies that get the weirdest people

>>2838565
I hate to say it but yeah. We can't hold back all progress for tiny native groups.

I think there could be criticisms of it if it cuts through indigenous land, splitting it up. It sounds like they didn't consult the natives on it which is what the colonial government always does. That doesn't mean the railway shouldn't be built (it is obviously a piece of infrastructure that is technologically and historically progressive) but if it is going to harm indigenous people then it needs to be altered maybe by giving plenty of passages through it so the land on either side can be easily accessed. The problem is that the Klanadian government will not alter it because they see indigenous people as subhuman.

>>2838623
It's always people who have loads upon loads of unresolved trauma in their lives. Tons of anarchists and Maoists, like you said, are addicts or former addicts, or child sexual assault survivors. A lot of former foster kids too who became homeless after aging out of the foster care system. Queer youth who were kicked out of homophobic households (this was a big thing 20 years ago). I think they turn to anarchism and Maoism because the nihilism and love of destruction in those two tendencies appeals to their frustrations and suspicions towards the status quo, like they want revenge on society.

>>2838312

1. Because people don't think in terms of trade-offs. Economists try to, and even they barely manage it.
   
2. People also have a status quo bias and struggle with hypotheticals. They don't think "high speed rail > less car use than there would otherwise be", they think "current levels of car use OR current levels of car use + HSR"
   
3. Opposition to such projects is usually superficially and to some extent actually "grassroots", which makes it easy for anarchists (and environmentalist/Green) types to fall into it because it has the correct vibe, even if many of their allies are middle class bourgeois types who don't want their ideal property interfered with. (e.g. if you buy a rural house, you don't want it to become a commuter-town house and have to sell and move elsewhere if that can be avoided by stopping HSR, even if this is worse for everyone else.)
   
4. The consortia that build such projects are usually superficially and actually "evil big international megacorporation", which makes them very to oppose. Your local petit bourgeois farmer is "the litle guy" up against SNCF, a foreign company that owns all the trains in France.
   
   

Here's their PDF so you can see their actual reasons: https://anarchistnews.org/content/anarchists-against-high-speed-rail-quebec-windsor-corridor
For the most part, it's just a worked exercise in repeating standard anarchist/lefty talking points on a hot-button issue of the day, naturally with a heavy dose of "neither plausible thing A, nor plausible thing B, but a secret third thing [that won't actually happen]" and some wishful thinking around the urban/rural divide typical of the sort of person who plays stardew valley and, perhaps, a touch of opportunism.

When you understand they're just trying to give off a vibe instead of thinking things through and that everyone in politics is doing this all the time (the ones who appear to think things through more deeply are in fact just trying to give off a different kind of vibe), you'll be at peace.

You'll realize that for the most part these are nice people being a bit dumb, which is a lot better raw material than nasty people being incredibly stupid, which is the rising force in politics today. (The global Trump cult.)

>>2838490
The statement here is quite anodyne. Being a cynic, I would view
>There is an expectation that the project must be "structured in a way that acknowledges and supports long-term self-determination,"
As the opening gambit in a negotiation, like that of the liberal ecologists who might be bought off with promises of consultations. (Though less cheaply.)

That said, because I'm not really engaging with it, I would say I find your additions interesting and that although it may not seem like it they gel with my theories quite well. (If the radical chic lies with indigenous activists, the sort of person drawn to the radical chic of anarchism will of course be drawn to such activists and with collaboration with them. The average person's political alignment is, if you will, a branding exercise.)

>>2838565
>>2838627
No because to "admit" such a thing is bad and ugly (e.g. it will appeal only to right-wing creeps) and a lot can be done to smooth over the ills of the past even in a pragmatic, capitalist, liberal sense.
Look at New Zealand: From the 1800s to the 1960s the legal position was that their treaty with the native Maori was a "simple nullity", which was in fact the situation on the ground. Since then, they've progressively recognised (e.g. retroactively decided) that it is in fact the founding document of their country in material fact as well as in technicality, that the binding version of the treaty is the Maori language version and not the English translation (important because "giving up sovereignty" isn't really a concept that translates well), that it has legal force and creates a whole swathe of responsibilities and obligations for the state (protection of Maori culture, language, land rights, land/environment, settlements for historical injustices, etc.) and creation of a whole pile of fundamental principles of NZ law (the "Principles of the Treaty of Waitangi") all while basically retaining everything you'd expect for a modern governable western type state.

Some weaker version of that is the long-term woke path for the US/Canada/Australia. More than land acknowledgements but less than the total repatriation of Turtle Island.
(Though there's a personality gap in the kind of person who'd advocate for this. NZ had an easy job because, relative to those other countries, the treaty was "nicer", their approach to managing indigenous people less genocidal - even rather fond of them in a patronising, mismanaging, "civilizing" sort of way - and their total population quite small. For everywhere else, you need to combine quite a moderate policy solution with quite a radical change to the status quo and to national identity…)

>>2838628
Doesn't matter, activists won't do shit to stop it.

>>2838556
This sounds like the ramblings of a Fox News watcher. The reason people hate communism is because they have been propagandized against it for almost 100 years.

and again there is no group called antifa, you retard.