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Der Umgang des deutschen Staates mit "Terroristen" (Sachbeschädigung) - Richterin bricht munter ein Gesetz nach dem anderen. Bananenrepublik.
Shut Elbit Down: The Ulm 5 mit Benjamin Düsberg - 99 ZU EINS - Ep. 656
https://99zueins.fireside.fm/656>In unserer Ausgabe «Das System Epstein» analysiert Redakteur Daniell Pföhringer wie eng Epstein in die Entstehung von 4chan verwickelt war: Im Oktober 2011 traf Epstein auf Vermittlung von Boris Nikolic, einem ehemaligen Berater der Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, den 4chan-Gründer Christopher Poole, alias «Moot». 🤔
https://www.compact-online.de/enthuellung-qanon-von-epstein-erfunden/ >>2844596
Currently being developed (in China).
Anti-militaristischer and pro-Palästina coup gerade Zugange beim PdL-Parteitag.
Geschäftsordnung wurde schon erfolgreich geändert gegen Vorstand und Präsidium.
>>2844604I was wondering how that was supposed to work without Russian petrochemicals, makes sense
>>2844608Blaming Russia is a convenient but ultimately misguided scapegoating. The present structural issues go far beyond mere access to Russian gas.
>>2844605Erfreulich und Glückwunsch an Thies, Hannah & Co. Beim Spiegel war man gestern besorgt, daß genau dies passieren könnte. Gysi findet auf seine alten Tage leider sehr großen Gefallen an bürgerlich-liberaler BRD-Staatsräson.
Germany is the most disgusting place on the continent
>>2845202ne der kerl hat schon recht, scheiß marionette amerikas.
>>2845600Deutschland kann sich mit etwas Mühe von den Stiefelleckern befreien - aber natürlich geht das nur, wenn es die Stiefellecker verurteilt, anstatt sich selbst.
How are you guys handling your imminent defeat?
>>2845213Einfach eine wahrsserstoffbombe
>>2845627Thanks for getting my hopes up for no reason. Another 2 weeks of jingoist non-sense here we go.
>>2845690It wasn't fair they used Kraut space magic.
Gibt es im Deutschland noch Punk-Kultur?
Hier kommt die Sonne
>>2846172WTF i am in this video lol.
Or at least, in one of the videos they cut to make this.
>>2840725Den Leuten, die das im Kontext der "horrors of communism" posten empfehle ich mal das billigste Gericht in einer westdeutschen Schulkantine.
>>2846172Antifa Anarcho-Zeckenrap. Das mit Rojava hat ja toll geklappt
>>2846335basiert
auch kein bock von zigeunern im zug belästigt zu werden
>>2843331in my home town, every other week a dude jumped from the same tower for years after DDR was dissolved
You and we too have blood on our hands, a lot of it.
>>2846335Den Leuten geht es einfach noch nicht schlecht genug.
>>2847233Tja. Hätte er mal lieber Bürgergeld beantragt.
>>2844345That’s true, you know your the better Germany if you’re traffic lights look this cute
>>2846938Well I wasn’t even born until over 15 years after East Germany was annexed so I don’t think I’m responsible unless you consider all Americans blood liable
>>2840725Jhiggy miggy lol
>>2850902So Germany has proletariat?!?!?! Twitter third-sjws lied to me?!?!
>>2850902this is what they get for cucking to amerikkka
>>2850902deserved tbh, also watch how the Unions will cuck out instantly
>>2851122I mean tbf VW is in a lot of trouble, and I think the Unions would rather some of their people become unemployed now, than all of their people become unemployed in two years.
That's one of the major problems with capitalism though: you as an individual are exposed to a lot of risk from market fluctuations, that you really can't do shit about.
>>2851246
Was war da?
Bundeswehr hat 300 000 Briefe an junge Leute geschickt. Bisher freiwillig gemeldet zum Dienst an der Waffe haben sich darauf 530. Das sind 0,18 % (aufgerundet).
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=152906>>2852088lmao
basierte sumerer
>>2852893Ihr merkt schon, dass das nur Ablenkung ist, um über inkonsequente Klima-Maßnahmen zu streiten, oder? Klimaanlagen sind nichts im vergleich zur Massentierzucht. Selbst Zement herzustellen belastet das Klima mehr.
KPÖ (eigentlich Sozialdemokraten) in Graz haben zugelegt. Die scheiß liberalen freuts trotzdem nicht lol. Der deutsche Wikipedia artikel über die Partei ist reines butthurt
>>2852914Air conditioning is only for the data centers!
>>2852914Das Thema wird vor allem wieder bewusst zu einem Kulturkampf gemacht, Klimaanlagen sind jetzt "rechts" und das wird auch wie man bspw. an Apollo News in
>>2852893 sieht, entsprechend vereinnahmt - rechter freiheitlicher Individualismus auf Kosten der angeblichen Allgemeinheit, die Amis haben ja schließlich auch AC. Linke werden wieder mit Fake-News aus dem ÖRR ("Klimaanlagen machen es nur noch heißer" etc.) und christlicher Moral im Sinne einer malthusischen Verzichts- und Klimaideologie abgefrühstückt.
Beides ist typisches Divide und Conquer und natürlich eine falsche Dichotomie um natürlich keine öffentlichen Investitionen in Klimaanlagen zu ermöglichen damit im Düsseldorfer Uni-Krankenhaus es weiter 38° auf der kardiologischen Station ist.
Das AC direkt das Klima beeinflusst ist hahnebüchene Propaganda, genauso könnte man sich für das Ende des Kühlschrankes einsetzen und den Leuten raten, ihre Lebensmittel doch in feuchte Tücher einzuwickeln.
Beispiel China, erneuerbare Energien machen jetzt schon 62% der Energieproduktion aus und Klimaanlagen sind günstig und überall installiert. Sogar im Schweinestall.
>>2853254I have communist friends who totally realize that being anti-AC is beyond stupid but they're still against it because they do not want to give US this "cultural victory".
>>2853625Ok, sunni-islamistische Anti-Assad-Schergen dann aber auch, richtig?
You guys watching the game? Are you guys going to get eliminated by Paraguay?
Jayed war ganz klar ein gekaufter Hurensohn, hat schon beim Auftaktspiel mies gegen DE gepfiffen. Gestern Handelfmeter für Woltemade nicht gegeben und das 2:1 war so ziemlich die offensichtlichste Schiebung bei einer WM überhaupt.
War trotzdem ein Grottenkick und letztendlich verdient verloren im Elfmeterschießen.
>>2853279>I have communist friends who totally realize that being anti-AC is beyond stupid but they're still against it because they do not want to give US this "cultural victory".Uh oh. Maybe they're still socialists,
national socialists. The American Revolutiuon was actually progressive if you think about and then the slave states and the Europeans (who were the reactionaries) tried to put that shit down on multiple occasions.
So, ihr faulen Nixnutze und Produktivitätsverminderer. Ab sofort AU ab Tag 1 in eurem 6 mal auf 48 Monate befristeten Mindestlohnjob.
>>2856365Jedes mal wenn ich einen Tag wegen Erkältung ausgefallgen wäre gibts dann eben ne Woche Krankschreibung
Probleme waren nicht
>>2856365Bin zu ungepflegt und zu alkoholisiert für Arbeit.
>>2857067stabil. weiter machen.
Haben sich nicht genug Berufssoldaten gefunden, die sich freiwillig nach Litauen stationieren lassen, jetzt wird verfplichtet.
>>2859398Wie zerserzt man heutzutage Wehrkraft?
>>2859861
First pic shows freimaurer asking proletarians to work more, second pic shows proletarians forcing freimaurers to work more.
>>2865021Abrahamisten sind die schlimmsten von allen.
Any reason why German laws on prostitution and porn are more liberal than in countries like France and the UK?
Because you’d think that, with how entrenched feminism is in Germany, that they would lobby to ban prostitution directly or indirectly (e.g., adoption the dumb “Nordic model” which is like trying to ban drugs by only arresting buyers instead of dealers), but it seems even the AfD is ok with prozzies and porn for all the rhetoric about “family values”. Granted, some Christian intellectuals in the Middle Ages did argue that brothels were necessary as a safety valve for sin, so conservatives being pro-prostitution isn’t unusual. Still, I am surprised by the dynamics.
Is it because of lobbying by the sex industry, because it’s too established for any challenge to be effective, or is it because German feminists don’t oppose it as much as French and Anglo feminists do?
This is off-topic, but is it true that Germans are a pedantic, autistic people incapable of understanding jokes?
>>2866589Prositution was banned in the GDR so banning prostitution is considered to be literal stalinism.
>>2866637I wonder if legalising gay anal is considered “Stalinism” too considering how the GDR legalised gay sex before the DDR did.
>>2866589Feminists see it as liberation, so nobody would dare to touch the topic.
>>2866622> pedantic, autisticYes.
>incapable of understanding jokesNo.
>>2866845Was hat er gepostet?
>>2866856"Palästinenser sind Menschen"
>>2867105I mean, some of them are nice people like the people protesting in the video. But damn, their cops seem like real assholes. The people weren't even doing jackshit but walking around calmly and the cops start getting aggressive.
>>2867108because the germoids support this, they are all hitlerite
>>2867113>seems to be an abnormal level.freund und helfer
>>2867113They get a lot of practice on their wives and gf's. They're all fascists.
It's hardly just a Germ thing, anon.
>>2867125>islamic regime in iran, russia, hamasjuden haben mal wieder nen normalen
>>2867113When I was around 5 or 6, my dad hadn't paid child support and my immigrant mom really needed the money, so she wouldn't stop knocking on his apartment door who was there but wouldn't open it. The neighbors called the cops, and an officer actually beat her up and dragged her by the hair to get her to an elevator right beside me, even punching me when I tried to shield her. German cops are literal sociopaths and regular Germans thinking Nazism is very cool again doesn't surprise me.
>>2867229Riot/football police are basically hooligans in uniform, it's always been this way. These squads draw the most violent cops. Overall the behaviour of our cops has dramatically changed to the worse though. Since they changed their uniform color from green to black they behave much more like one would expect from Israeli and/or American cops. 20 years ago they would even under pressure practically never pull their gun. In rare cases they would use it to fire warning shots or disable an armed attacker with a shot in the foot or leg as last resort. They would always take their time and deescalate a situation non-violently. Today they are much more trigger happy and they actually do kill suspects on the spot now. AfD burgers will defend it "but there's more violence!", which is true. However those new, more violent cops contribute to more violence in the country themselves.
Germoids are subhuman fascist animals
>>2867811
>>2867787
Deutschland, aber normal
>>2867841
>>2867811
Ist Kohlchan unten oder haben dich die Palästinafahnen ausgelöst, Schlomo?
Hau ab.
>>2867903
Ist mir eigentlich wurscht ob du Jude bist. Rassismus wird von Zionisten bzw. von deren nützlichen Idioten forciert wie blöde, da liegt es halt nahe.
Du bist aber jedenfalls der Hurensohn, der rumheult und unironisch "Kanake" in den Faden kotet, wenn einer in nem internationalen Forum auf Englisch schreibt. Das hier ist nicht Kohlchan, Krautchan, pr0 oder ichiel.
>>2867966pr0 kanne ich noch gar nicht. Ist das ein Bilderbrett?
>>2867811
Frag mich echt ob du geistig behindert bist oder einfach ein CDU-Spast, weil du einer Konvo nicht länger als 1 Wort folgen kannst, um zu merken, dass ich jemandem antworte, der nicht deutsch spricht
>>2868082Das deutsche "Kulturgut" besteht aus DDR und… das wars lol. Eigentlich selbstverständlich dass die Deutschen seit der Wiedervereinigung nur Müll produzieren (Filme und co)
Ich war vor kurzem auch in so nen Buchladen, die Bücher aus Deutschland (vorallem von Politik"wissenschaftler" verfasst) kannste dir nicht geben
>>2868082Bine eher für eine Diktatur (des Proleteriats)
>>2867903
Rent free.
>>2868227
Verpiss du dich, die seelenlose Alman Ausgeburt.
>>2868227
Halts maul du cop liebende arschgeburt
>>2868039You can answer me in German if you want, I can use built in translators no problem. I would use auto translation on my posts ITT but I don't want to give the false impression I speak German or for my posts to be called LLM.
>>2867479I'm sorry to hear that happened to you and your mother anon.
>>2868250Wenn die Brettercops (sie tun es umsonst) meine Pfosten löschen hast du bestimmt nichts dagegen, Mustafa
>>2868589Oh, poor baby. I bet they're English speakers too.
>>2868733OH MEIN GOTT ICH WÄÄÄÄÄHÄHÄHÄHÄHÄHÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄHÄHÄÄHÄHÄÄHÄHLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>2868755Alles OK bei dir?
Bestimmt ne dumme Frage, aber was genau sind "Antideutsche"?
>>2871485'Antideutsch' ist eine politische Strömung in Deutschland, die historisch aus einen Teil der radikalen Linken erwachsen ist, urprünglich als Reaktion auf das Erstarken des deutschen Nationalismus nach der Wiedervereinigung.
Heutzutage zeichnet sich diese politische Tendenz durch eine sehr starke pro-Zionistische Position und die bedingungslose Unterstützung Israels aus, die oft in offene Islamophobie, pro-Amerikanismus und sogar Ablehnung des Marxismus und Klassenkritik als 'strukturell' antisemitisch mündet. Während sich nicht viele Vertreter von diesen Tendenzen selbst offen als Antideutsch identifizieren werden, ist es wichtig zu wissen, dass diese Positionen in weiten Teilen sehr einflussreich innerhalb der selbstidentifizierenden deutschen Linken und radikalen Linken ist und eine gewisse Präsenz diversen Institutionen hat, wie zum Beispiel innerhalb akademischer Kreise.
Vertreter von (anderen) Linken Tendenzen oder Organisationen werfen Antideutschen oft vor keine Linke zu sein und offen rechte bis (neo-)konservative und rassistische Positionen zu vertreten.
>>2869285Seems like a bad idea to get publically known as a shemale before going to prison, especially if you aren't really and it was just a lifehack moment
His asshole is going to be less of an o and more like an O before he gets out
>>2871849bisschen mehr sozialstaat abbauen, repression und krieg werdens schon richten. mit sicherheit.
>>2871849Mit einem regulären Ausdruck im Denken, welcher demokratisch mit kapitalistisch ersetzt, macht vieles sehr viel mehr Sinn.
>>2871849>It is the responsibility of the bourgeois parties to make people not understand what is happeningWas er damit wirklich meint, der Otzenfritze
>>2871980Socdem's wet dream
>>2868733East Germany and Bavaria are truly the worst
>>2873271>>2873274Well Berlin is nice. But Bavaria and East Germany are fucked lmao
https://mia.mk/en/story/germanturkish-writer-sentenced-to-prison-for-incitement-to-hatredTIL that the author of the Felidae novels from which the movie Felidae was adapted from is some slovenly Turkish reactionary pickme. It’s funny because I was just like him before being recovered.
As to why non-Euro immigrants in Europe turn out like that? As someone familiar with the case, it’s both because of an extreme individualism that enables their pickme nature, and because of the fact that immigrants in general are often scoundrels, regardless of their place of origins. I mean, he is a first-generation Turk, which makes it all the funnier how he bashes immigrants. Not sure how common it is in Germany to have reactionaries among its immigrants (especially those of the Gastarbeiter program) but it seems that it’s more of the case among Turks and Kurds, who are somewhat analogous to the Latinos of the USA insofar that its host population has a love-hate relationship with them in contrast to non-Balkan Eastern European immigrants in Germany that seem to occupy the role of white ethnics in the 2000s if we continue with the American analogy. And much like the Chicanos of the USA, a major trait of Turks and Kurds in Germany is their inability to speak their mother tongue properly.
But yh, the biggest trait of a brown immigrant is the desire to be the only brown person in a white/European country, and that desire for exclusivity often leads them into reactionary politics, especially anti-immigrationist ones. You often see it in how often they say they are the good brownies unlike le bad brownies (like Kurds or Arabs in the possible case of Turks) whilst also having this contradictory complex over their whiteness where they overcompensate by converting to Christianity (if they want to grift) or to radlib new atheism or, in some extreme cases, bleaching their skin and breeding white.
Much of the reasons behind it are a combination of psychological factors and class differences: The average immigrant then and now are more often than not a bunch of scoundrels trying to make a living in other countries, so this individualist greed is transmitted culturally as hyper-individualism where the immigrants that grew up in or were born in the host country try to ascend from their middle class to the upper class much like the petit bourgeois. That’s what “assimilation” entails for them: Social mobility from petit bourgeois to full bourgeois status, like the author of Felidae. And that involves trying to cut off the opportunity for others, hence their obsession with immigration. But much of it is psychological, which I’ve already covered.
This is an observation I made as an immigrant in Italy. Not sure how the immigrant dynamics fully work in Germany.
>>2873515Really? A German chud told me that Germany is one of the best places in the world to live in bar a select few countries, and despite never being in Germany the country looks cozy AF, even east Germany.
But yh, seems like a place like Hamburg is way nicer than a place like Dresden. Really makes you think how much did the German government neglect east Germany post-reunification.
>>2873542Why are Turks so defensive about their nationalism? The level of seething whenever their nationalist ravings are questioned always in my experience leads to unfathomable levels of seethe and mald, treating the turkish state and it's honour as it is the very real life of their mother in question.
I know there are tons of leftist who don't go in for all this nationalist spooks nonsense but i've literally never encountered any in non-leftist political discussion spaces.
Always very bizzare people. I have never been able to understand.
>>2873515Go back to reddit.
Unless your're a proper FDGO maxing libshit you can't seriously believe CDU, Greens, SPD and FDP are in any way different or even better than the AfD in political practice. Current CDU/CSU/SPD govt is the WORST government ever from a working class perspective, by far.
Anyway, they're all, including the AfD, literally all the same bourgeois shit, just with slightly different rhetorics and slightly different fanbases. AfD is sort of doing an "East Germany regional party" grift recently but they would literally say *anything* to convince people voting them. Kind of ride on an anti-war trope too still, which is in fact a big reason for their popularity here, however they will drop that as soon as they get into power in Berlin, just like Trump and Meloni. With regards to social politics and economics there is literally no difference AT ALL between them and the other bourgeois pricks.
>>2873556LOL so true especially when the Armenian genocide is brought up. One way or another, they’ll try to minimize it or engage in full denialism in ways they never do when it comes to Greek massacres against Turks which, let’s be honest, wouldn’t make Turks the complete victims as both sides were pretty nasty during both Balkan wars and WW1.
Also, I’ve often seen German chuds complain how Turks in Germany will often vote SPD, but vote for Erdogan in Turkish elections as Turkey allows Turkish citizens living abroad to vote too. Not sure how reactionary the ones in Germany are, but it’s pretty insane how the most common non-nationalist Turks online tend to be shitlibs or self-hating radlib cucks as opposed to actual leftists. Is it proof of just how weak the left is in Turkey?
>>2873995The property is owned by the SPD, buddy.
>>2873545>Metropolitan area is more 'progressive' and economically active than left to rot bumfuck nowhereYeah, big shocker. 500 inhabitant shithole villages in Rhineland Palatinate are just as run down and reactionary as comparable places in eastern germany.
>>2873556>>2873978Your drivel is as reactionary and retarded as you paint 'the Turks'
>>2874082einmal döner mit alles bitte
>>2873978>Is it proof of just how weak the left is in Turkey?I don't think so, that's what's so weird, Turkey has and had a strong left.
>>2874082<n-n-no u!!!I don't have a nationalist bone in my body anon, i wish and work only for the destruction of all these bourgeois conflagrations.
Why does it make you so defensive though? It's almost like a reflex.
>>2874006If Marx & Engels knew they would be fuming. Fits the contemporary cucked status of the German worker's movement well though. It should be maintained as a museum under an e.V. or other non-profit association umbrella by actual communists, socialists and unionists and by no means *owned* by the fucking SPD, which shits onto the German working class and on Marx & Engels legacy every second it exists since 1914. I'm actually mad right now.
>>2874276You know damn well communists couldn’t run this shit, so be glad your historical nemesis is kind enough to take care of it.
>>2874082Ich weiß, daß es im Westen teilweise extrem trostlose Regionen gibt, bin aber uezs gar nicht unglücklich über das deutlich negativere Image, das der Osten im Vergleich mit dem Westen im Westen und im Ausland immer noch hat, solange diverse Gentrifizierer-Schnösel, ambitionierte Gusanos und Glücksritter aller Art aus Osteuropa oder sonstwoher es deswegen vorziehen sich irgendwo im ach so tollen Westen einzunisten. Keinen Bock auf die und keinen Bock auf moderne, angeblich "progressive" Berliner Verhältnisse. Als Berlin noch "arm und sexy" war gabs dort keine Zeltslums mit Obdachlosen iirc.
>>2874284Einfach mal das stupide, ewig arschverletzte reaktionäre Maul halten. Kriegste nicht hin, oder?
Hab von Berlin jetzt langsam genug. 3 Jahre mittlerweile obdachlos, Drogekarriere, bei sämtlichen linken Strukturen verscherzt und keine Hoffnung mehr auf Zukunft. Wohin soll ich fliehen? Suche eine Gegend mit lebendiger Punkkultur, freien Sozialwohnungen und ein bisschen Natur wäre auch schön.
>>2874418geh dahin wo
>>2874320 wohnt
>>2874320Klingst selbst ein bisschen Popo aua
Scored a new job. Tried to write my resignation letter at current job. 2 minutes in boss comes in and tells me that if I don't go inside working he'll fire me on the spot. I tell him okay, but the company needs to take me back home (a service I'm paying for monthly.) He says nope, he'll call security and they'll escort me outside the lagerplatz. I tell him I don't even know the address of my apartment (the company moved me 10 times in 11 months). He says it's not his problem. So I go to work.
That was 2 days ago.
Today I get a call from the little boss, he says they are throwing my stuff out from my apartment because I haven't showed up to work in 3 days (it was actually 2, but nvm.) I go back to my apartment, and thankfully the giga boss is there. I explained to him my situation, and he assured me I can stay until Saturday for which day I have a driver set up to take me to my new job.
Can I sue the shit out of them for this?
Do you guys know any driver services that I could use? This fucking company I worked for a year could make me homeless if I can't get a driver on Saturday 11:00 AM, near Hanover in a little village.
Please help, am desperate
I'll check your responses tomorrow. I have no internet in my shitty village apartment and have to walk 40 minutes every day to a tankstelle/BurgerKing combo so I could try to organize my moving. Also, the fuck is up with Germany having little casino slot machines at tanstelles? You guys burgere'd up big time!
>>2875054wie wärs wenn du deutsch lernst?
>>2875084Wie wär's, wenn du Deutsch lernst?
>>2875054aren't there any busses you can take?
>>2875054Ginjeet?
>I tell him I don't even know the address of my apartmentGoogle maps has a history feature that can tell you the addresses you've been. Might as well use it since they're tracking you whether you use it or not.
>Do you guys know any driver services that I could use? Has to be something right? Uber? Taxi?
>>2875220kannst du bitte zeitstempel liefern, kein bock mir 20 minuten geseiere von irgendeinem bundeswehrtrottel anzuhören
>>2875562Da ich mich jetzt nicht persönlich angesprochen fühle, wenn die Tussnella da von Gernany labert, frag ich mich aber auch gleichzeitig, warum wir überhaupt Nationnamen in den Mund nehmen, wenn wir eigentlich deren Regierungen meinen. Soll ich mich jetzt als Deutscher schlecht fühlen, oder meine Regierung verachten? Das lässt sich jetzt nicht eindeutig heraushören. Aber sicherlich bekommt man auf diese Weise unsichere Antideutsche für seine Sache eingespannt. Schlau.
>>2875925>Antideutsche against IsraelIsn't supporting Israel their main thing? I think it is pretty normal to refer to the international actions of a country as "this country is doing this, this country is doing that." What else are you going to do? Say the "Merz regime/administration?" Or "the government of this country" every single time? Also she was applauding the German people that are out there protesting.
>>2875933>unsicherewar hier mein Punkt, mit dem Rest hast du schon recht.
>>2875925Wenn man nicht nationalismusgehirnt ist, kriegt man auch kein pipi inne augen, wenn 'Tussenaldas' von 'Germany' labern.
>>2876809Nationalismus impliziert ja leider, dass man irgendwelche Grenzen akzeptiert, die irgendwelche Barone mal gezogen haben. Diese Gedanken fleuchen mir nun nicht im Hirn herum -sehr wohl aber der Nutzen einer Gemeinschaft, ob man sie nun die Kotti-Kiez-Gang oder die Deutschen nennt, ist dabei egal, da sie alle unter dem selben Regime leiden und ihre Arbeitszeit dafür verschwenden, damit irgendwelche Imperialistem Völker ausrotten können, damit der Dollar stabil bleibt. Das ist doch schon etwas vereinendes, nö?
>>2876924>identifiziert sich als Deutscher<Nationalismus liegt mir fernmerkste?
>>2876982Denk mal drüber nach.
>>2877511
Muslim chuds vote for AfD lmao
>>2877514
>Oh Ahmed I love you so much, Free Free Palesti-ACK
Kritische Unterstützung für den islamo-kommunistischen Widerstand gegen den westlichen Homofaschismus
>>2878328
Do you think majority of people can keep it their idea straight for longs period of time? Even leftist fall prey to being stupid or inconsistent themselves
Warum suchen sich die Angloiden eigentlich immer genau unseren General zum zuscheißen aus?
>>2878350Laas deine Anglophobie behandeln.
Ich empfehle einen Hot Dog mit Darm.
>>2878354>Hot DogOida. Netzfundstück des Tages:
>Die Sprachregelung der wöchentlich mehrmals an alle Redaktionen versandten „Mitteilungen des Presseamts des Ministerrats der DDR“ gab konkrete Weisungen für die Aufmachung und Einteilung der Zeitungsseiten, für herauszustellende bzw. zu unterdrückende Themen, sie enthielt Listen für sprachliche Bezeichnungen, die zu gebrauchen oder zu vermeiden waren. Es gab sogar „Empfehlungen“ für die Auswahl von Kochrezepten. So kam es zu Dubletten von Bezeichnungen, die aus ideologischen Motiven entstanden waren, weil die DDR-Führung bestrebt war, sprachliche Erinnerungen an die feudalen Zeiten zu beseitigen. Beispielsweise wurde aus Bismarck-Hering der Deli(katess)-Hering, vom Kuchen Bismarck-Eiche blieb nur noch Eiche, aus Fürst-Pückler-Eis wurde Halbgefrorenes (wenn es eine Torte war) bzw. bei der Pückler-Schnitte wurde zumindest der Adelstitel Fürst eliminiert. Tilsiter Käse war wegen der Umbenennung der Stadt Tilsit zum Unwort geworden, Königsberger Klopse wurden in Kochklopse umbenannt. Hingegen durften Schweizer und Limburger Käse ihre Herkunftsbezeichnungen behalten.[2][3]
>Westliche Bezeichnungen sollten möglichst nicht verwendet werden. Mit Produkten wie Ketwurst, Grilletta oder Krusta gab es ab Ende der 1970er Jahre auch eigene gastronomische Entwicklungen, die sich an westliche Vorbilder anlehnten, jedoch den direkten Bezug vermeiden mussten: Die Ketwurst entsprach dem Hotdog, die Grilletta im Grunde dem Hamburger, die Krusta der Pizza. Die Wortwahl entsprach einerseits ideologischen Vorgaben der DDR-Führung, andererseits aber wiederum der Verfügbarkeit, die eine direkte Übernahme der Begriffe ohnehin nicht ermöglicht hätte.[3][4]
>Eine besondere eigenständige Wortschöpfung ist der Goldbroiler (für das im Westen gebräuchliche Brathähnchen), der nach einem unerwartet positiv verlaufenen Testverkauf in einer Broiler-Bar eine massive Ausbreitung erfuhr und ab Ende der 1970er Jahre eine erhebliche Entlastung der noch immer problematischen Eigenversorgung mit Fleisch bedeutete (die edlen Teile der Schweineproduktion, wie Schweinefilet, wurden für Devisen an die Bundesrepublik verkauft und standen in der DDR nur ausnahmsweise zur Verfügung). Dass der Broiler derart erfolgreich werden würde, war nicht abzusehen gewesen, es war eine Verlegenheitslösung, deren Erfolg aber selbst die Verantwortlichen überraschte.[3]Kwelle:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCche_der_Deutschen_Demokratischen_RepublikBin zwischen cringe und based hin- und hergerissen. Kann ein Mitteldeutscher idF bitte seinen Senf dazu geben? Wikipedia ist ja jetzt nicht gerade die beste Bildungsstätte.
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>>2878328
Moral > Ideologie
>>2878404
No AI anymore, pls. :(
>>2878411My bad, was unsure as to whether it would be fine to present it in English or not since I didn’t want to shit up this thread with more English, but I needed AI to translate it to German. Oh well, here’s the English text based on my wording (no AI this time):
I remember that back in 2021 American media was abuzz with drama over the poster above that was used for the Alliance 90/The Greens in the elections. What many of the American and anglophone commentators omitted is that the poster was specifically just for Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg, and that unlike American and other European parties, German parties are often more localist so the platform of the same party can vary even between boroughs, or at least that’s how a German neo-nazi put it back then. That meant that different parts of the party would be more conservative than the others, even the Greens.
Said neo-nazi (that nicknamed himself Arminius) in a forum I lurked to back in that day would go on to state that the use of English language in that poster wasn’t accidental, since the stigma on German nationalism outside of sports has meant that many German leftists would adopt English and American neologisms to look “cool”, while German advertising and managerial boards would adopt English to make themselves look professional and appeal to a wide berth of people. He then stated that he felt pessimistic about the future of Germany as not only were local dialects going extinct, but he thought that Germany of the future would turn into a multiracial hellhole where German would become extinct and be replaced by some anglicised version of it. A Creole language, in other words.
There was also another neo-nazi (who nicknamed himself Staufer) who would go on a tangent on how obsessed everyday Germans could be with America, with some even adopting weird habits like watching the Super Bowl, or follow US politics (mostly AOC and Bernie Sanders) to the point that they thought the world would end if the “dumb Americans” (as those Germans would put it) voted for Trump again (remember, we are talking about 2021 in this case), so there’s that. That German neo-nazi was often the one to push back against American right-wing misconceptions of modern Germany and delusions about nazi Germany, but only insofar that:
- Germany was less “pozzed” than the USA (back then “woke” wasn’t widely used as it is now) since Germany urbanisation followed a different path from the American one where large cities gradually transitioned into villages as you travelled away from urban centres, and it was there that Germany’s conservative elements lived in. Hence why trans people aren’t as prominent in Germany compared to the USA. Said urban structure is also why German large cities are far less populated (e.g., Berlin being far less populous than London, Paris and Moscow) but Germany still has higher population density than America and Russia, besides the obvious fact that the green revolution and the Haber Bosch process allowed for the expansion of the German population to the point of Germany becoming the most populous nation in Europe proper. This, and the traditional centralised German urbanisation model is also why German industries are less centralised as companies like Volkswagen typically get their spare parts from contractors located in other cities.
- Nazi Germany wasn’t some paradise as American neo-Nazis believe. The user Staufer would argue that if any of these neo-Nazis actually bothered to talk to German people they would realise that many of the Germans in the 1930s largely accepted Hitler because he improved the German economy but nonetheless some of the nazi policies like the Kristalnacht proved quite controversial. Regarding the treaty of Versailles, he pushed back against the notion that it was cruel by pointing out that the Brest-Livotsk treaty was harsher on Russia than Versailles was on Weimar, especially as military buildup long preceded Hitler’s rise to power since it began under Hindenburg, whom he notes as being beloved by current German liberals as having the potential to have formed the EU if it wasn’t for “anti-democratic forces”. He also pushed back on the notion that millions of German men in the aftermath of WW2 died en masse due to allied inprisonment in open air prison camps since the numbers given out by pro-German revisionists would be too high to account for the number of survivors in official censuses. And while Staufer did deny the Holocaust, he did say the camps did exist, just as labor camps that would have worked well had it not been for allied bombing campaigns.
Staufer also stated that Weimar was much less degenerate than American right-wingers would like to think as said degeneracy that scandalises the current online western right was actually limited to certain urbanite intellectual circles of interwar Berlin (as was the “negrophilia” artistic movement) while the rest of the Weimar Republic (which Staufer notes had “Deutschreich” as its official name) was fairly socially conservative.
But yh, both neo-Nazis were (un)surprisingly pessimistic about Germany’s future, but unlike mainstream German conservatives they didn’t think Germany would end up as a caliphate due to the high assimilation rates among the biggest immigrant diasporas (particularly Turks) and instead they thought Germany would end up as the same “shitlib totalitarian multiracial dystopia” (their words in English, not mine) turned up to 11. They seriously thought societal collapse was the only way to “save” the German nation since they thought most Germans are a lost cause.
Then again, I’m not sure how to take their words at face value, since Arminius in that forum:
- Wrote a misogynistic screed after witnessing two old German coots discussing their promiscuous lives and making casual misandristic remarks, as well as seeing a 14 yo German girl holding hands with her mixed-race Afro-German boyfriend, whilst he took a walk at the park. Oh, and he managed to chase out one of the “German” nazi user in that alt-right forum that I mentioned after he discovered that said user wasn’t a pure German by virtue of having a Russian dad from Kazakhstan. Apparently it’s common for Kazakhs (both mixed race, ethnic Kazakhs, and ethnic Slavs) to claim distant German heritage to exploit the very liberal (at the time, I guess) German right to return law to gain German citizenship, and often instead of integrating they end up ghettoising themselves with other Russians, hence how Arminius discovered the user wasn’t a “pure” German: the user was fluent in Russian and would speak with other Russian users in the same forum.
But yh, that’s how early 2020s internet was. I would like to compare note. So were these Nazis right or wrong about German history and culture then and now?
>>2878419English is always fine here. Even bad English. Thanks for the original text.
>>2878419I’ve posted this because if they were right, then it was surprising to learn how Die Linke and the AfD are the two most popular parties among the 18-24 age brackets, especially since the AfD under Alice Weidel has taken on a more pro-USA stance despite having to contend with the more russophilic faction of the AfD.
Tbh, there are some things I would like to ask the Germans here, based on what that neo-nazi nicknamed “Staufer” recounted back in that alt-right forum in the late 2010s and early 2020s:
- Do you think that Rudi Dutschke (the German behind the “long march through the institution” strategy) was a Stasi agent or asset? Because that same Staufer posits that Rudi was a Stasi agent meant to destabilise west Germany since he found it odd that an East German immigrant that fled to west Germany would begin to lead the German leftist cultural revolution of the 60s and 70s, and keep in mind that this German left deviated significantly from the interwar and pre-WW1 German left primarily in having less focus on labor and more towards culture. But he does praise Rudi in that unlike the current German leftists as embodied by the anti-Deutsch movement and antifa, Rudi was a genuine German “patriot” who supported German reunification, albeit under communism which Staufer disliked. That user also stated that many of the old German communists were so patriotic and nationalistic that if they were alive today in Germany they would have their cars and private property burned down by Antifa on a daily basis, although I can’t say for sure. As for Rudi, IDK much about him but maybe it is plausible considering how much back and forth covert activities was going on in other sides of the Iron Curtain. The western example would be operation Gladio and the Gelen network (the same network George Soros of the OSF built his fortune upon).
- Are the German “old left” (i.e., the 68ers) to blame for the impotence of the current German left? Because Staufer recounts how the “old left” used to be pro-Palestine due to its support for anti-colonialism and economic issues, but today the German equivalent of “woke” is so spiteful of the older generation that the German woketards have turned into neocons, down to unironically discussing “islamo-fascism” and openly supporting America as a beacon of freedom (at least when under Democrat administration). Of course, Staufer sees it as no one else but the 68ers’ fault for it for “ruining” German society by going against the German traditions and nation of their ancestors, which paved the way for the German woke (or “modern left” as he puts it) that goes against its predecessors, and Staufer himself sees moderates and extremist leftists different only insofar as their methodology goes as he sees their goals as being the same. Wonder if you German leftists here agree with that assessment.
- According to him the 68ers used to be over represented in the teaching profession, although I can’t confirm nor deny this as I never lived in Germany, so can anyone fact-check this?
Keep in mind that I remember the conversation from 2019 to 2022, so probably much has changed since, especially since the 2000s.
- Was Angel Merkel the greatest victory of the GDR against the DDR? He thinks so and says many German right wingers think the same, since Merkel got her degree in east Germany which would mean she has undergone deep ideological indoctrination (according to him anyway) and used to work for the GDR’s communist party.
I would appreciate if someone answered these questions, thanks.
>>2878452>Are the German “old left” (i.e., the 68ers) to blame for the impotence of the current German left?Not really. Shit fizzled out. The students of yore became conservatives, reactoids or disillusioned. Neo liberalism was brought upon society. Same story as everywhere basically.
>over represented in the teaching professionI have no statistics at hand and am too lazy to look that shit up. As stated before, the 68ers where for a big part a student movement. Naturally, these people then would go into correlating professions, for example becoming teachers. As for 'over represented' - in comparison to what? Anecdotally and from personal experience: nah, i had one teacher who was an actual 68er relic and upfront about it. The system did and does a good job in keeping teachers 'on track'. Sure, they had some leeway, which was eroded even more ever since. But being openly and outright 'left', or even in a party like 'the Linke' will make you not be hired or lose your position.
>Was Angel Merkel the greatest victory of the GDR against the DDR?Schizo talk. Merkel is blamed for tons of shit she didn't have any control over. At the same time, Merkel is said to have lead to 16 years of stasis. My personal take: the 'stasis' was Merkel doing whatever she could to stall the avalanche of shit that is rolling down since she departed.
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