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For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of online left-wing politics. Bernie was about to win, Democratic socialism was the future, China would inevitably democratize and the old boring MLism was dead. A few DSA-backed candidates winning city council seats in already progressive districts was treated as if the Bolsheviks had just stormed the Winter Palace.

The most ridiculous part was that the supposed divide between the Dirtbag Left and the DSA left barely existed. They agreed on healthcare, labor, foreign policy, housing, policing and virtually every other major issue. The defining ideological conflict of the era was essentially whether you were allowed to make edgy 90's raunch comedy jokes on podcasts. Entire feuds and endless Twitter meltdowns emerged from a disagreement that amounted to "can you say slurs ironically?"

The confidence was incredible, leftist genuinely talked as if DSA-aligned leadership of every major American city was inevitable, as if Bernie was one good news cycle away from the White House and as if a handful of podcasts by stand up comedians had somehow cracked the code of political history.
In retrospect, it all seems absurd. There was never a realistic path to any of it. The movement's grandest ambitions had essentially zero chance of materializing.

Then reality intervened. Bernie lost, The post-COVID world arrivedm Housing crises worsened, Migration became politically explosive, Major wars returnedm China didn't democratize and instead looked increasingly capable of navigating long-term crises without becoming a Western liberal democracy and the assumptions underlying the entire scene collapsed one by one.

A lot of the old supporters ended up as tankies. A smaller but noticeable number drifted toward the far right. Sometimes they somehow became both at once. The aesthetic transformation is almost as funny as the political one, the old Dirtbag Left revolved around schlubby podcasters making jokes about being ironically gay, the people who inherited its audience are often obsessed with MMA, military history, geopolitical realism and posting shirtless workout photos. The few remaining loyalists seem to have finally realized that their politics were never meaningfully different from the DSA's in the first place and appear perfectly content settling into the role of ordinary progressive liberals.

What a strange, stupid little farce that was.
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>>2856475
I am sorry but what? At the time when this clip happened Hasan already was the most watched American streamer by total watch hours for several years.

>>2849745
>overproduced
So that's why his channel is having financial issues.

>>2856475
what put him on the map is his uncle is chunk yogurt of the young turks, also he dated porn stars

>>2856098
>u sure bout that? cuz hasan said blah blah blah
your random example doesn't mean anything statistically significant
>>2856415
part of getting a lot of attention is being a narcissist and this guy's job is to get attention and give attention to the things giving him attention

>>2856415
>streamer is a narcissist
I mean isn't it practically a requirement of the job? put yourself on camera and yap for hours, gotta have a significant ego or you probably wouldn't bother doing it except as a hobby

Looks the dirtbag left LEFT to get the BAG ($$$).

>>2856792
Don't go into debt for your daddy who doesnt know you exist now. gl bud

>>2856475
what put him on the map is saying america deserved 7/11

>>2847877
<this is skinny in AmeriKKKa

>>2849718
>cruise ships cause more emissions then cars

Either he is completely ignorant on this or wilfully misrepresenting shit.

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>tfw dont know a single dirtbag leftist

The fact that wokeness just about disappeared after Trump's reelection kinda reinforces that we all never actually believed in it

>>2847690
It needed to happen. It was part of the nascent left breaking from neoliberals.

>>2893069
I think some paper years ago said cargo ships emit more so2 or nitrogen oxides than millions of cars and then through a game of telephone people said it releases more co2 than millions of cars, or all cars. I'm not sure, though.

>For a brief moment from 2016-2022 this was supposedly the pinnacle of Reddit

fixed it for you.

the real "pinnacle of left-wing politics" is always right now, this present moment in time, because true social progress isn't measured by the random eccentricities of the cultural zeitgeist but by what humans actually learn about themselves and the world which cannot be unlearned. if ever we repeat the mistakes of the past then it means we didn't really learn anything, we just thought we did and we were being arrogant and overconfident in our own abilities and myopic about what was really going on in the world. there's a reason why white liberals were shocked and apalled and literally breaking down into tears and hanging themselves when trump got elected, whilst immigrants and poor black people were not the least bit surprised and it was just business as usual to them.

>>2903832
Your right, but I always associated dirtbag left with twitter more then reddit.

being a leftoid isn't fun any more

>>2903832
dirtbag left wasn't welcome on reddit, what are you talking about. r/chapotraphouse constantly shat on lib subreddits, summoned users from lib subreddits by tagging them, called the podcast hosts reactionaries, and called for the destruction of amerikkka and the two party system. the entirety of reddit was more triggered by r/cth than by the_donald and so they banned both at the same time in an appearance to be "centrist"

>>2904295
it's been 7 years, move on

>>2903780
What the fuck is "wokeness" and who's "we"? Are you talking about progressive liberal appropriation of BLM?

>>2847690
I'm gay

>>2904330
gay sex with your dad, the funniest shit they could think off.

Yeah I'm thinkin I'm off

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Chapo at least has some general discussion, but I simply don’t understand the appeal of cumtown. Like every other line is some joke about being gay, having gay sex or whatever. It’s the type of humor I’d wager only a degen(whose also a wimp) would be into. I can’t imagine either a normie or even a tough, masculine guy, being into this. All you’re gonna get is just a bunch of irony poisoned manchildren.
Like, I remember seeing this post from a cumtown fan who got a job, did a few bits thinking he’d be hilarious and everyone just called him a faggot instead.

>>2905911
I was always a fan, but there are a lot of shitty parts because while being one of the most popular podcasts at the time, it was also easily the most low effort one with them never preparing anything. I don't think I would ever listen to an entire episode again and most others probably feel the same seeing how popular clips of the show are.
>Like, I remember seeing this post from a cumtown fan who got a job, did a few bits thinking he’d be hilarious and everyone just called him a faggot instead.
There is an epidemic of people who think they are Nick Mullen because of the pod sadly.

>>2905929
>while being one of the most popular podcasts at the time
For urban Brooklynites and wannabe Brooklynites, Joe Rogan was probably still 10'000 times more viewed followed by some true-crime podcast.

>>2905933
I'm sure there were plenty more popular shows but it did impressive numbers
>During its run, it was consistently one of the most popular podcasts on Patreon and at its 2022 conclusion was one of the top 25 comedy podcasts on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

>>2905929
nick Mullen is someone that's funny to listen to, but unbearable to be around and his worshippers are all just as unbearable without being funny.

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>>2905941
>one of the most popular podcasts on Patreon
Anyone paying Patreon for a comedy podcast of gay jokes is not someone I would take seriously as a human. Again It's Brooklynites and wannabe Brooklynites who were probably already interested in those politics or who were George Carlin types and might otherwise have become annoying libertarians, but are now shitlibs.
I think looking at the actual popular podcasts gives us a better idea of trends in general culture and the direction of society. Even niche subcultures that produce objective results like the DSA are still worthwhile to examine. The Dirtbag Left basically gave us nothing but annoying people on twitter with handles like “Gay Simpsons cum fart”

>>2905943
He’s entertaining in small doses, but those same jokes about being gay and giving blowjobs feel pretty stale, it’s not even about the progressive aspect. It's just gay.

>>2848458
What is going on?

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>>2905944
The popularity of the Dax Shepard podcast is honestly fucking funny, because half of it seems to be built around the novelty of Dax, a moderately successful, older actor interviewing other actors who are sometimes more successful than him and sometimes considerably less, alongside his co-host Monica Padman.
Monica is a younger actress who originally came on as a producer and editor and ended up becoming the other main co-host. She brings a younger actress’s perspective to the show, while also bringing in younger actors, influencers and other guests. But the other half of the podcast’s popularity seems to be this bizarre parasocial obsession with Dax and Monica’s co-dependent relationship and endless speculation about what the fuck is going on between them.

Dax literally had her house built right next door to his. Monica has said she doesn’t date anymore since becoming a co-host. Dax revealed his relapse with pills to Monica before he told his own wife. He’s openly said that he holds his wife, his children, and Monica at the same level of importance. He constantly calls her “kid.” And the whole dynamic has this bizarre fetishistic power imbalance. Dax is older, significantly more successful, vastly richer and so much bigger then she is. This is what people actually care about and find interesting rather then weird gay jokes, the love life and relationships of Dax Shepard.

>>2905911
Yeah name dropping cum town or doing mullen esque bits IRL is definitely a faux pas but cum town was good for what it was: a niche internet hangout for online nerds.

>>2905911
they are obviously saving their best bits for their own standup shows, but sometimes genuine gems do crop up and often because nick mullen is a huge dick

>>2906109
If you talked to a normal guys like this, you would get beaten up and or get called a faggot.

>>2906124
Talk how?

>>2905953
>Dax literally had her house built right next door to his. Monica has said she doesn’t date anymore since becoming a co-host. Dax revealed his relapse with pills to Monica before he told his own wife. He’s openly said that he holds his wife, his children, and Monica at the same level of importance. He constantly calls her “kid.” And the whole dynamic has this bizarre fetishistic power imbalance. Dax is older, significantly more successful, vastly richer and so much bigger then she is.

Hot

>>2906128
Any of the jokes and humour, 99% of it would get you beaten up.
>>2906139
And that relationship drama involving a moderately popular actor has had more impact than the entire Dirtbag left combined.

Even if they had said everything right and even if they had funding and connections, the Dirtbag left was doomed to fail because they were inherently inauthentic.
Look at the actual most popular podcasts >>2905944 Despite their various forms of schizophrenia, low-autism score, violence and conspiracy theories. they are popular because they are authentic to themselves. They are either dumb meatheads (Joe Rogan, Huckerman, Theo) who genuinely embody what they are, genuinely charismatic and attractive men and women(the kind of people who don't have to cope through comedy and irony) talking with other attractive popular normies(Dax and Smosh) or they are simply insanely religious fanatics who speak with absolute conviction in their beliefs and delusions, calling their enemies opponents of God and demon worshippers (Tucker and Candace).

All of that will always beat detached irony by a million to one in terms of popularity. People are drawn to conviction, authenticity, charisma and the sense that someone genuinely believes what they're saying. Detached irony will never compete with that kind of visceral commitment.

>>2906124
I genuinely don’t understand how a guy like Nick can even exist in the real world. Like, even when he’s talking about his friend’s horrendous health issues, he literally cannot be serious for even two seconds. Stav is obviously wrong for downplaying his issues instead of actually making an effort to fix himself, but he’s completely right about Nick never being able to take anything seriously and says says everything in a mocking tone, like he physically cannot have a normal conversation. And every podcast clip I’ve seen of him is exactly like this. Like, how has this man never gotten punched in the face or at least threatened?

Fundamentally the SJWs come out of that period looking the best
Can't believe I could've spent 2012-2019 as a Tumblr transhumanist webcomic artist instead of being a 4chan repper wasting his life away while thinking he's so much smarter than everyone else for avoiding being cringe by avoiding living at all.

>>2847690
This is funny because all these left forums seem the same to me, you guys ARE dirtbag leftists like the old chapo sub, or stupidpol, trueanon, red scare, all those people on twitter with names like the trashcanlenin. Except there's more weebs here, of course.

>>2907392
Like right now in Siberia there's a Rowling hate thread and the equivalent of trans cutie thread. You guys are the old chapo sub.

Cumtown and chapo used to be good like, nine to eight years ago, now its dsa madami slop, not impossible that they have been psyoped, now adam is hosting the drug addicted lumpen rapist son of the president of the empire, who lied and aided in the gazan genocide, adam is now nothing but a lowely pathetic bug that eats nothing but dust.

>>2907396
Uighur the dirtbag were always dsa shills, Like none of these men were “psy-oped.” You’re the moron if you genuinely think any of these men had any political convictions beyond wanting weed, healthcare and wanting what Sweden had.

So much blood has beeen spilled for new generation to come up with new idpol issues to argue about . Ist really sad and 50 years too late to argue about cultural preferces.

>>2907392
>>2907393
Whether people like to admit it or not, they influenced online alt-left humor, which really isn’t taken from the right so much as it is from stand-up and shock-jock traditions.
Shock-jock humor is edgy, offensive and smarmy but it’s also inherently neurotic, self-deprecating and cowardly. It’s not really the kind of humor you’d ever see from a confident or well-adjusted guy. it’s the kind of humor you’d associate with someone who could get his ass handed to him by literally anyone else.

>>2907396
Stav literally bragged about how he voted for Madami for Assemblyman over some Greek woman.

You just sound like you have a recency/hipster bias.

>>2907708
>Shock-jock humor is edgy, offensive and smarmy but it’s also inherently neurotic, self-deprecating and cowardly.
I'm not sure what you mean by this but maybe I'm not too familiar with ye old shock jocks. I agree the dirtbag left has (or had) a kind of passive edginess, like the "safe" anti-Italian racism, or the "safe" horniess of wanting women to step on their balls or whatever, but the shock jock would just be racist and chauvinist, I thought.

>>2908962
>I'm not sure what you mean by this but maybe I'm not too familiar with ye old shock jocks
You know that 99% of those guys are wimps who act like the biggest faggots in the world when anyone physically threatens them.


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