For those sick of Zigger Putlerites, Chigger Dengoids, Irauyghur Islamists, DPRK ethno-national-monarchoids, and other right wing multipolaroid schizos pretending MUH ACK-SIS OF RESISTANCE and MUH AMERISRAELI MUTTREICH has anything to do with class struggle.
ITT we laugh at classcuck jewish niggers who pretend:
<the end of America = the end of Capitalism
<Judaism/Zionism is a bigger enemy than Capitalism
<islamists are real resistance to capitalism
<dengoids are real resistance to capitalism
<monarcho-nazism in DPRK is real resistance to capitalism
<muh sahel coalition gang raping gay men is real resistance to capitalism
etc. etc. etc.
307 posts and 53 image replies omitted.>>2877023>IraniansDid you mean proles? make up your mind.
>>2877026>they want the imperial periphery to stay ruled by retarded religious freaks and impotent socdems so the US can rule foreverThen why the fuck the US is attacking Iran again?
>>2877029Stop pretending to be socialist then, youre just a tribalist
Youre an enemy of all leftists in the preiphery since youll happily support tossing them in pits so long as whoever is doing so hates Americans. You have no interest in freeing anyone from anything.
>>2877030Yes, socialism is my tribe.
US is the first and biggest obstacle to socialism anywhere in the world. If your socialist plan does not account for dealing with the US, you're not a serious socialist. With the US present, you're not going fucking anywhere.
Now, come on, do the moralist thing, shitlib, and bring up Hitler.
>>2877032The most you can do is fend them off, there is no guaranteed way to actually deal with the US. Countries with nuclear weapons have a privileged position that means they can only be brought down from the inside. The US is going to be a perpetual problem unless it collapses or becomes socialist itself, if you insist on priorotizing combatting it over everything else you are postponing any socialost action anywhere effectively indefinitely, which is easy to say when youre not the one getting shot by all these despots you support.
>>2877032you are just kautsky but without the brains
>>2877035>Countries with nuclear weapons have a privileged position that means they can only be brought down from the inside.Congratulations on creating more third-worldists, you disgusting lib wearing red.
>>2877039You can seethe all you want, Im correct. There's a reason North Korea doesnt get fucked with the way Iran does. There's a reason NAFO wont directly fight Russia. Nukes matter.
>>2877043Except Israel gets bombed on the regular, so you're a fucking dipshit liar.
I sure love liberals putting on a red cloak, and then telling
me who is and isn't a real socialist. I appreciate the hell out of Adam Something.
>>2877039vncritical revdefism is the only shining path to communism in the vvest
>>2877051>if nukes matter why doesnt Israel nuke Iran for lobbing random missilesIt's not my fault you cant figure this out, your understanding of power dynamics is too myopic to understand it. But yes, you are still wrong despite what you said.
>>2877032>socialism is my tribeexcept when CIA backed islamists put socialists in mass graves tho, then you switch to the capitalist with theocratic characteristics tribe real quick
>>2877060What happened to "can only be brought down from the inside"? You gonna claim "lobbing random missiles" doesn't affect state stability?
>>2877061>There is something in human history like retribution: and it is a rule of historical retribution that its instrument be forged not by the offended, but by the offender himself.>t. Karl MarxDo your reading next time, agent.
>>2877064Random terror bombing will not bring down a state, we've known this since WW2.
>>2877066You think Iranian bombing is random? That's cute.
>>2877067Accurate bombing wont bring it down either, campoid. Look at Iran. You cant word cop your way to victory.
>>2877077Now you're comparing Iran to Israel? A country with some local water supply versus a country dependent on desalination?
>>2877120The fact you think that disproves anything simply reinforces your inability to accept contrary information.
Good to know my detractors are all imbeciles and gaslighters. I might actually think I was wrong, otherwise.
>>2877061anyone throwing "islamists" around like a perjorative just sounds like a butthurt israeli. boom boom tel aviv friend.
>>2877061>when CIA backed islamists put socialists in mass graves we must oppose whoever the US empire is fighting now because the US empire helped them 40 years ago? This just aids the US empire in degenerating conditions even further. Whoever the USA wants to replace these "islamists" with is going to be even worse.
>>2877217>>2877217>>2877217That's because the only middle easterners you listen to are Islamists and Israelis my guy.
But I would like to remind you that Rojava was a thing, Assaad was a thing,
Nasserism was a thing, yes even Iran was once a secular democracy before western intervention
>>2877061>boo hoo they killed communistsWhy do people think that communists should care about the lives of other communists, treat them with excemption, treat them like kin, etc? Especially in an unqualified manner.
Same shit when trots complain that stalin "killed the old bolsheviks" or "killed other communists". So? Why should being an " old bolshevik" give anyone special.status and immunity from getting purged or tried?
>>2877367well I suppose the context matters: whether these communists were actually communists are not, whether they were purged for being communists by open reactionaries, purged for being fake communists by real communists, or accused of being reactionaries by fake communists.
>>2877367Cause I don't like capitalists. Don't worry, the "leftists" who also helped islamists in Iran also got executed. Which is the destiny of all these ACP type thirdworldists.
>>2877027S-tier analysis there.
What is even the point of this time wasting general?
"tankies" (unfocused umbrella term) vs "leftcoms" (unfocused umbrella term) strawmanning and snarking at each other for all eternity?
Who am I kidding, this is just a typical /leftypol/ thread actually. Perfect for people to get their dopamine hits while, just like the "cringe" leftoids on tiktok, twitter, IG, etc.; not reading (but here under the safety-blanket of anonymity!).
>>2877367>Same shit when trots complain that stalin "killed the old bolsheviks" or "killed other communists". So?finally someone who gets it, since Stalin's time killing communists is just standard dialectical practice for those who are actually doing shit, but ultras looove purity testing
Someone get this Musk bot back to shitter:
>>2877457>>2877493>being this triggered by realpolitik and pragmatismseethe about it ultra, in this board we defend the multipolar right of capitalist states killing communists in order to help create the conditions for communist revolution, try reading a little about dialectical materialism before sperging out so you stop sounding like a mossad agent
Someone get this Musk bot back to shitter
>>2877524>>2877457>>2877524Damn, ultras are the biggest pearl clutching moralists, huh
once we kill all the anti communists calling themselves communist, there won't be anyone left to purge except ourselves
>>2877524>you can't support capitalist states that killed communists!>drop dead, tankie???
>>2877427ACP are explicitly not third worldist lol, they believe in the revolutionary potential of the western/american proletariat. The word you're looking for is campist
>>2877029They are chauvinists, they think hurting the US is actually a really bad thing
>>2875812Didn't deny that
"""tankie"""
"""leftcom"""
>>2878355thats duginslop i think, or maybe just haz's reading of dugin so its even slopier
>>2878355Socialism is when clash of civilizations and traditionalism. You (liberal cosmopolitan lgb trnny) wouldn't get it.
>>2853401There is a more simple explanation to this, a person by person explanation. Only thieves who take the colors of the ruling ideal may prosper the furthest as their resolve is the fastest and they may override the rules to protect themselves even though they have no morals.
>>2878642cont.
>>2853401The bourgeoise definition can explain everything, but the problem of the bourgeoise will present itself in any system as time goes on.
>>2859254we hold these truths to be self evident
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