For those sick of Zigger Putlerites, Chigger Dengoids, Irauyghur Islamists, DPRK ethno-national-monarchoids, and other right wing multipolaroid schizos pretending MUH ACK-SIS OF RESISTANCE and MUH AMERISRAELI MUTTREICH has anything to do with class struggle.
ITT we laugh at classcuck jewish niggers who pretend:
<the end of America = the end of Capitalism
<Judaism/Zionism is a bigger enemy than Capitalism
<islamists are real resistance to capitalism
<dengoids are real resistance to capitalism
<monarcho-nazism in DPRK is real resistance to capitalism
<muh sahel coalition gang raping gay men is real resistance to capitalism
etc. etc. etc.
You never have built any positive alternative nor will you ever because you only want to critique and observe, never change the world, you’re inferior to the bourgeois and the Chinese NEPmen.
>>2853405>positive alternativeMUH AFFORDABILITY
MUH HECKIN LIFTIN PEOPLE OUT OF POVERINO
just makes capitalism go on longer. things must get worse so that faggots like me will finally be forced to do something
>>2853413You haven’t done anything since Mattick (pbuh) declared Marxism the last refuge of the bourgeois and for “revolutionary passivity“
whats the final solution to the JNQ?
I'm not objecting to this thread but unironically why do you use slurs? More so knowing you're brown… is it to earn whitey points?
based thread
>>2853414>>2853405adventurism lmao
>>2853469Not even denying it lol
>>2853444>I'm not objecting to this thread buteverything before "but" is bullshit
>but PWEASE DONT USE HECKIN SLURSpic is u
>>2853536kys chuddie faggot I'll crush your brown skull with my biceps alone
Fuck racism
Lasalle and August Willich won, Marx and Engels lost, its really that simple
>>2853539>Lasalle and August Willichwasn't Lasalle to Marx's "right" and Willich to Marx's "left" ?
>>2853404are you trying to say Vijay Prashad is a Modi supporter? Weirdo
>>2853401It boils down to whether you support the general strike or are against it. Islamists, Dengoids and so on are against the general strike.
>>2853555I am islamo-dengoid and I say general strike NOW
>>2853401We are the Islamo-DengGODS, and this is how we move.
can't stop us. we are the subversive element subverting…. white western civilization… why? Because we're third-worldists. And we're resentful. because I am very swarthy. and brown.
>>2853575You're a white american that metaphysically supports a ruling class on the other half of the world which kills brown workers while shaking hands with your own white ruling class
>>2853577>>2853579i say this and i look like this
>>2853401>DPRK ethno-nationalthey abandoned ethno-nationalism when they abandoned the goal of reunification in 2024 doe. now they are just state-nationalists
Thank god there's finally a containment thread for these retards again, please stay here and keep circle jerking about how much you love and devote your life to Israel. If it were up to me your reactionary ass would get banned on sight. But self segregation is a good start I suppose
Have leftcoms accomplished anything other than whining about their betters?
Like, it’s been nearly a century since Bordiga got kicked out by the PCdI and the typical leftcom has nothing to show for it besides wordcel-ling about “capitalism”, which atp is nothing more than a spook for failed normies to rail against.
>>2853405>you're inferior because you're a useless eater unlike the entrepreneursThank you Ayn Rand, very cool!
>>2853629Bruh this meme would have been at least slightly plausible in 1975, not after the USSR self abolished themselves rather than even slightly move towards abolishing capitalist relations and supporting actual communists worldwide
>>2853634>LARPing as denier because it's less embarassing than being a falsifierWhat level of virginity is this?
>>2853423woah that's a rare gondola
>>2853646What level of ideology are you on?
>>2853641As Orwell said:
>Some are more equal than others >>2853646>Unironically using terms like falsifier and denier like you're some religious zealot, while you're really just some retard shit posting and seething about people not supporting the Epstein Empire enough Lmfao talk about embarrassing
>>2853401>orangetext>”etc. etc. etc.”Imagine losing the argument in so many arenas and thinking that you can avoid reconciliation that with one cover-all circlejerk thread.
>>2853655Reconciling that*
>>2853655If it means these retards stop sliding every fucking thread I'm fine with them corralling themselves in here.
>>2853550fuck it, one struggle
>>2853643just replace Moscow with Beijing and it is just as apt as ever. but also Moscow struggles against the Eternal Yankee
Communism is when I get all my opinions from influencers
>inb4 HAHAHAHA MY CYBERIZED TIKTOK BRAIN IS DA FUTURE UNC
You are no different from a cable news boomer
>>2853698>noooo stop liking my favorite indie band you’re not even a real oneThis is you with politics
>>2853694hohol bandeirite apologia
>>2853709Russophobes definitely put the same kind dehumanising intent behind “Vatnik” as all racial slurs. It’s clear they get huge enjoyment out of Russians having effectively an “N word” that is uncontroversial, it’s the racist’s dream to be able to use slurs and have that raise not a single eyebrow.
what I find the most funny about "anti-campists" is how they reveal themselves to be the actual campists. after all, when was the last time any of you saw an "anti-campist" protest against their own camp's militarism? when have ever Western "anti-campists" protested against NATO expansion? for its own camp's military defeat in Ukraine, in Palestine or in Iran? never, that's when. which of the two are vilified by bourgeois media? it certainly isn't the "anti-campists", because they are no threat to NATO. "anti-campism" is merely the tacit acceptance of the supremacy of one's own camp, of the NATO camp
>>2853712This insult was created by Russians and is used by Russians against other Russians. There is absolutely no racist connotation here. Meanwhile, the vatniks are true Nazis/racists and blame one nation - Ukrainians - for their misfortunes.
Literally above you there is a post calling me a hohol (even though I am Russian)
>>2853732So you therefore know that when you say “created by Russians” you know that’s some Uncle Tom shit used to alienate themselves from the rest of the Russian population.
More over the etymology of the word is an irrelevance when eventually Vatnik is adopted by Russophobes in the west and applied to
all Russians as a generalised group, including the kind of people who invented the term.
>I got called a HoholBecause you essentially called him a Vatnik for implying “neither Moscow nor Washington” just means ‘Washington’
>>2853745A “Russian” who hates his own motherland and feels nothing but contempt for his own people ceases to be a Russian. Might as well go fight for Azov like your leftist buddies if you hate Russians so much you think their dehumanization in the face of an attempted genocidal is acceptable
>>2853736Between washington and moscow i choose moscow, between moscow and communism i choose communism, if you have contempt for the people who would chosen moscow over washington, despite latter being materialistically progressive while former having its progressive force in the wheel of history depleted, and now in a hegemonic position turned as a force of evil, you commit a grave mistake.
No wonder i called you a bandeirite apologist, ukraine at this state has no chance of proletarian revolution until NATO is driven out as also the bandeirite apparatus and its collaborators
>>2853745>Racism is good when it's against a nation I hateWhere was that said?
>>2853754He bought into Austro-Polish propaganda about Hoholistani “nationhood”. Any attempt at denazification is actually racism against the Aryans of the Ukraine you see!
Blatant racism itt
>ziggers are crying about muh heccin racism again
why are they such snowflakes?
>>2853747>motherland>people>ceases to be REAL aryanHoly hitler hold me
>>2853634>Have leftcoms accomplished anything other than whining>>2853730>when was the last time any of you saw an "anti-campist" protest against their own camp's militarism?<Meanwhile, their western strategy: >>2853403Popular Frontism; capitulating and collaborating with the big bourgeoisie for
a century (or more!) instead of setting the stage for proletarian revolution. Let's review.
…What "Moscow"?
…Eastern bloc??
…Hainan "Free Trade Port" inaugurated
in the 2020s??
…Nepal's (a bordering country!) MLs being left out to dry? To be overthrown like nothing?
…Private banks in Cuba, June, 2026? While the CPC's too busy circle-jerking with the international bourgeoisie in both the OECD and BRICS.
…Your thought leaders advocating yankees Voting Blue, soyfacing about Mamdani?
…Is BRICS+ UAE and Egypt about to lead the charge in west Asia?
…Is Indonesia gonna do something about those anti-communist laws?
Or are you people just blatantly full of shit?For the leftcoms: what do you think the odds% are of these guys being:
· Paid 'BRICS Internet Defense Force' agents, or BRIDF / BIDF
· addicted to 'political' day trading / gambling with a smidge of brain damage
?
>>2853747>A “Russian” who hates his own motherland and feels nothing but contempt for his own people ceases to be a Russian. Might as well go fight for Azovbut enough about cucktin
>>2853888
Another garbage zionist post
I'm a leftcom now. What should I do? What org should I join, what is our program, what should we do in the world that actually exists here and now in 2026?
>/Anti-Campism/ ACKsis of "Resistance" Edition
second-campists are equally, if not more, useless than leftcoms. but reading chudslop like this makes me wonder
>>2853906nothing, the revolution will happen spontaneously
TRVST THE PLQN >>2853857trvst the plan, anon
>>2853694vatnik is an anti-worker meme from 4pol
>>2853913Awesome, I love being a leftcom
>>2853906Join your nearest class-union, that being a labor union that doesn't have clauses forbidding strikes.
Communists understand that the Class-Party needs to struggle for leadership within it, therefore you need Party organization.
>what is our programThe program:
https://www.international-communist-party.org/BasicTexts/English/51PrDict.htm >>2853913Dropped your flag anarchoid:
>>2853982
>muh action for the sake of action
you are fascist monkey
>>2853920
how do you expect to not get called zionist if you call people paliuyghurs doe
>>2853982MLs haven't done anything but red capitalism
>>2853986How do you expect not to get called one when you tried to derail this thread about the zionist pedo non-country of Pissrael first?
>>2853982
>Ugly-cries
Pathetic. With the rise of proletarian revolutionary militancy, strikes, little bosses like you will be tarred and feathered for morale.
Jungle adventures are closed
Cross-class alliances are closed
The October road, the historic road, is our future.
If that makes you piss your pants a little bit that's YOUR problem.
You still have some time to change until the real movement runs you over.
>>2854017Why did you use the term "pali n%gger"?
does "pannekoek" actually, unironically mean just "pancake"?
what kind of name is that?
>>2853747>no actual leftist can be RussianThank you for admitting Russia is a fascist shithole.
>>2854052Yes, he was Dutch
>>2854055are all dutch people named after food like dragon ball characters?
>>2853982
>China: backs Israel
>Leftcoms: don't back Israel
MLs will call this praxis
>>2854019Cope, you’ll never be a Bolshevik
>>2853985No u :^)
>>2854017>Muh red capitalism, only we are pureStill more than whatever leftcoms ever did, who are at this point nothing more than good-for-nothing ideologues who can’t even bring 1% of the global population under their rule.
>>2854029MLs created the only communist superpower in history that was capable of exporting its government system outside its borders.
What have leftcoms ever done to merit the entire left to listen to them on strategy besides complaining on their fat asses?
>>2854071Outlasting the USSR?
>>2854067>China: develops apartheid infrastructure, is #1 trade partner with countless joint duel use tech programs >leftcoms: non of thatErgo Chinese praxis > leftcom armchairs o algo
>>2854054Fascism IS leftist, the left wing of capital to be precise. Communism is not and never has been “left”
>>2854076You pay taxes to Israel's #1 trade partner while defending Israel's #2 trade partner 24/7 on a Kazakh pumpkin trading forum.
I do neither. You lose, I win, suck a dick, bye bye
>>2854071>Still more than whatever leftcoms ever didsure if you support state capitalism and social democracy but we're Communists here. Liberalism has also done more but you're not about to start championing that are you?
>>2854071>MLs created the only communist superpowerstate capitalist super power*
>>2854084you are the apophatic theologians of communism. you can only say what communism is not.
>>2854088and what it is not is Marxist Leninism
>>2854082>using israel as a bludgeon in this conversationand why israel bad? because they genocide palestinians. but palestinians are… a nation… I thought you didn't care about nations… only class….
>>2854090Israel is bad because it is a nation state. Try working that empty campist head of yours
>>2854071>>2854029 (You)
>MLs created the only communist superpower in history that was capable of exporting its government system outside its borders.Yeah and liberals still defeated it too lol.
Just give up marxist leninism is inferior to liberalism
>exporting its government system outside its borders
The USSR literally armed every government in MENA that was massacring its communists
>>2854097Multipolarism in a nutshell
>>2854092ok so why is your argument "china bad cuz trade with israel" and not simply "china bad because it's a nation state"
you know the second one will be taken less seriously, so you resort to the first, then when it's revealed you don't actually really care about palestinians, you fall back on the second even knowing it's absurd
>>2854029
Marxist-Leninism IS liberalism. Looks how it industrialised the Russian Empire and created small capitalists hungry for more power.
>>2854102Because exposing leftard zionism projection is fun
>>2854105Damn liberalism literally always wins.
I care enough about Palestinians that it in no small part transitioned me from a leftard to a communist ("ultra")
>>2854118Qatar and Turkey supported Palestine x93284692920274 times more than token CPC speech at the UN
I should become an Islamist then
>>2854093Would the same apply to leftcommunism too? Will you actually admit that leftcoms are inferior to liberals now?
>>2854136no because Left Communists are not operating on the idea that doing random shit equates the success of a theory
>>2854122>I should become an Islamist thenThats actually pretty commong among ml's
>>2854138>not operating on the ideaBecause leftcoms literally have zero ideas to operate on besides “dragging down leftists to their circlejerk of masturbatory pseudo-intellectualism”.
That’s why all leftcoms are either trolls or pseuds as shown ITT.
That they’re ideologues is made all the more clear when they can’t cite any successful example of a society operating under their ideas, unlike Maoists, castroists and MLs.
Hell, even pedophiles have accomplished more than leftcoms and the former are always scapegoated by all sides because of evangelical retardation.
>>2854165>Maoists, castroists and MLs. >SuccesfullIn being shitholes perhaps.
>>2854165>Because leftcoms literally have zero ideas to operate on besides “dragging down leftists to their circlejerk of masturbatory pseudo-intellectualism”.this is just you being mad sorry kid but weren't not out here to create a popular front we're reading theory and waiting for history to catch up.
Revolution will come about when the material conditiions are correct for revolution not when your shitty ad campaign reaches enough people
>can’t cite any successful example of a society operating under their ideas, unlike Maoists, castroists and MLs.we're Communists we're not interest in the state capitalist these ghouls set up
>>2854166You say that, and yet can’t cite any society that succeeded by applying leftcom theories into practice. Almost as if leftcoms are bigger losers than the MLs they love to hate on. 🤔
>>2854171No ones ever tried. Theyve only tried applying marxist-leninism and always failed.
>>2854171We're not trying to put Leftcom theories into practice though.
Considering MLs have a 100% fail rate they are infinately bigger losers then any left com
>Zigger Putlerites, Chigger Dengoids
Leftcom mask off moment
>>2854203glad it makes you seethe liberal
>>2854218>bwwaaaah stop making fun of my wholesome capitalist heads of state and their dickriders bbwaaah!!you have to go back to r/SocialDemocracy
>>2854215Israel is a third world country and Israel has Russians who are ethnically proles
>>2854268
China, DPRK, Cuba,
>>2854272
There is nothing about market liberal practices that is counter to Marxist Leninist theory
Having a head of state does not make a country a monarchy
>>2854276
Until you’ve done a revolution and won a war, liberalism > communism, right now you’re just another punk critiquing power but afraid of being liable for any actual death or destruction on your hands
It’s literally no one’s fault outside your own that “liberals” mog you and move history while you wank to books
>>2854285
Mao wrote better poetry than any of your thousand page pretentious screeds about the economy
You don’t exist
>>2854290
Call me when you have a star trek replicator oh wait you never even took engineering
>>2854276
>Hereditary rule over a state is a monarchy
you're just redefining monarchy at this point and calling things you don't like liberalism.
Genoa and Venice weren’t TRVE republics
>>2854230i am elated you will never put your ideas into practice. liberalism will last forever!
>>2853752Putin is materialistically progressive dudes
PUTIN, not the USSR, Putin.
Ukraine Delenda Est because Putin is the Vanguard of the worker's century
>>2854020because it's funny, and because it triggers you. That's reason enough. Now call HR.
Let’s be real, socialism is dead as a movement and it lead to the status quo anyway whether you’re left right or center. Clearly there needs to be an alternative.
>>2854425The alternative is we can choose to imprison or execute whoever. We can vote them off the island. But even if we let them live we can surely deprive them of all their possessions.
>All Property, indeed, except the Savage's temporary Cabin, his Bow, his Matchcoat, and other little Acquisitions, absolutely necessary for his Subsistence, seems to me to be the Creature of public Convention. Hence the Public has the Right of Regulating Descents, and all other Conveyances of Property, and even of limiting the Quantity and the Uses of it. All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it. >>2853924This meme was created before /pol/ even existed. Also, the stereotypical vatnik is a talentless drunkard, so I don't see how this meme can be anti-worker.
>>2854443
Only one of the words is filtered because of some obvious conclusions about the mods.
>>2854442
>literally just racism as the counterpoint
>ending english word with "-aru"
that's japanese, dipshit. Chinese doesn't do that.
>>2854215Leftcom chads always are correct.
Don't forget the greatest hits like
<Supporting oligarch 'traditionalist' reactionaries who buried the USSR bombing and invading Ukraine is justified because the Ukronazi regime are antisemitic anticommunists>Supporting Burger-Zionist Reich bombing Iran and Gaza because they're 'antisemitic' anticommunists is not justified because Good vs Evil Proletarian vs Bourgeois Nations The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of race wars Clash of Civilizations >>2853405Israel also builds productive forces. Damn I guess I'm #Zionista now
good god they even have socialist and communist parties in the Knesset and social welfare!why can't you be normal about not supporting the authoritarian russian regime that actively makes the lives of its people more miserable and wants to expand to ukraine in an imperialistic war of conquest while also recognizing that the genocidal colonial state of israel has no right to exist, why do you have to be weird and insane and racist about this
>>2856289Because in the real world Russia has its faults but isn't nearly as bad as you libtards make it out to be.
>>2856301i'm literally russian
>>2856308>>2856289Зато в России можно купить эстрадиол без рецепта, если заказать в атеккку онлайн. Пиндосы же покупают себе гормоны из индийских подвалов
>>2856327я из индийских подвалов заказываю потому что дешевле
прогинова щас дорогая пиздец, you're a porky если у тебя денег на неё хватает
>>2856329Дляженс фемо: просто существует
>zigger
>chigger
Why are NAFOtards too afraid to actually say the n-word?
>>2856503I think when they do this they reveal that they hate black people so much that
_igger is their frame of reference for hating everyone else
>>2856289Because none of this is done in good faith and is pure contrarian trolling.
>>2856485это всё ещё в миллионы раз дороже и муторнее, чем покупать из индии инъекционный эстрадиол один раз в год
…и лучше уж фемостон, чем расеянский дженерик, который буквально ничем не отличается от индийских подвалов
>>2856555Saying “zigger” is peak predditor behavior, bud.
>>2856660>расеянский дженерик, который буквально ничем не отличается от индийских подваловНу Россия хотя-бы не N1 по сранью на улицах и изнасилованиям
>>2856673Cope harder, ziggersau
>>2853551Jeet is rightoid lingo for Indians. I know "anti campists" barely disguise their rightoid ideology but this is ridiculous
>>2856680yeah the racism part was obvious, more baffling is the accusation being made towards Vijay Prashad, who wrote Washington Bullets. But the guy who made that post probably didn't even think that hard
>>2856675Bing bing wahoo, have an updoot!
>>2856674что то, что то фашистская помойка
>>2856742
we should focus on all the bourghisie not just one ethnic/religious element.
>>2856742>Jewish Supremacy is the greatest threat to the proletariat>>2856753>we should focus on all the bourghisie not just one ethnic/religious element.this is the part where he calls you shlomo shekelstein for saying this, gets banned for idpol, and then comes back on a new IP and cries that the mods are all jews who censor anti-zionism because they won't let him do idpol
>>2854281
>More importantly, how come such blatant anti-communist propaganda isn't banned?
anti-communist website, simple as
>>2856503In old leftypol we said it but I'm still getting the hang of the new site and on the new dialect uiygher is the preferred parlance.
Yeah I don't miss having Nagger around either, it's kind of just lazy vulgarity and shock for the sake of shock (even at the cost of the actual Living Naggers some of whom might actually come here at some point, as a reminder).
But obviously cleaning up the speach to the point that we can't insult each other or communicate emotion and disagreement anymore would be bad so I think it's a decent compromise that this isn't the place for /pol/rated spergouts (althought they happen in other ways), while still you get to speak your mind broadly without mincing words.
>>2854281
the worst and most annoying "representatives" (often false flagging trolls) of every single left tendency on this site make an annoying habit of crying for more more more censorship of all the other tendencies, while alleging that mods are in on a conspiracy to do the opposite… it's really bizarre behavior… alleging a conspiracy, and begging the people supposedly at the head of it to do the opposite… reads like trolling.
>>2857591
you forgot to read
>>2856684>ZERO counter>JUST radlib language policing Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I was the poster of
>>2853403 ITT as a bump and, as indicated by not having a flag while the other poster had one, we are not the same person.
Now address the idiotic liberal bullshit that Prashad is saying in that complete clip (i.e. no cuts).
Go on.
>>2857628anon nobody really cares about your video, it was a response to this:
>>2853404vijay prashad is not a modi supporter, and it's not "radlib" to point that out.
>>2857635>nobody really cares about your videoNone of you care because you are radlibs. You have nothing to do with Marxism and require opposition at every level, every stage.
>>2856503Because those are specific variants for different people. We're not talking about blacks.
>>2857640vijay prashad isn't a modi suporter, stop changing the subject
>>2857661you chose to spell it like that for a reason, you ain't slick boy
>>2856503you are obsessed!
>>2857661You have a racist conception of Black people, namely of their “intrinsic” and “extrinisic,” qualities and characteristics, thus claiming Russians are just like them in every conceivable way. Your preddit “neologism” is rooted in racism. No amount of moving the goal posts can change that. You hate Black people and should kill yourself.
>>2853732Vatnik was created by a Ukrainian and post-2014 used almost exclusively by Ukies and other Butthurt Belters.
>>2856503These people have zero creativity. Russian liberalism in and of itself is a kind of suicidal nihilism that doesn't promote healthy life or appreciation of beauty. Both Ukrainian nationalism and the post-2022 western propaganda campaign are ultimately extensions of Russian liberalism that went through two slightly different paths.
That, and they are racist. But you can be racist and creative at the same time instead of being trash gremlins obsessed with gore and repeating Russian slurs at a rate of 20 a minute.
>>2858079NTA that baselessly claimed he's a modi supporter. Address anything Prashad said in the vid you classcucked lib.
>>2858450> Address anything Prashad said in the vid why should i? i made no claims about it.
>NTA that baselessly claimed he's a modi supporter. OK so you have no place in the conversation. concession accepted.
>you classcucked lib.that's you actually
>>2854272
Wrong. The DPRK was a socialist state until recently, when they approved the new constitution
>>2859302Elaborate. Constitution of which year? What in particular changed? I hear people make the opposite argument sometimes, that with recent constituional changes made them on the path again due to re-including phrases like "communism".
I start to doubt DPRK moreso due to their subordination to United Russia.
>>2859473>Elaborate. Constitution of which year? What in particular changed?you think he knows? lol
>>2859254they won't give you any. ever. stop asking.
>>2859266That guy fled to Ukraine. Also the infographic doesn't mention Leftypol and similar communities, only thr mainstream social media and /pol/.
>>2859858yeah 4chan gets credit for a lot of stuff that didn't actually come from there. 4chan is sort of the funnel between schizo and normie so that normies think everything came from there.
>>2854430>russian imperial flagwell no shit that guy is retarded
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