NOW - Thousands of illegal migrants from Africa storm the border of the Spanish enclave of Ceuta from Morocco
>Situation heating up in Spain
>Some are saying that Israel and the US is trying to punish Spain through Morocco because of recent anti-zionist actions
>But the situation is causing a shitstorm at the moment with on the ground fighting occurring
So what is going to happen in this situation and how will the EU respond?
Inb4 >noooo we must flood the countries with thousands of lumpen
>>2881084Define "lumpen".
>>2881055>>Some are saying that Israel and the US is trying to punish Spain through Morocco because of recent anti-zionist actionsmost likely
morocco's government is proudly zionist
>>2881093It comes off the back of some court rulings saying that migrants found around the enclave cannot be deported, or something like that.
>>2881115Maybe after Morocco leaves Western Sahara.
>>2881055Either give them citizenship or become anti-imperialist or just both
We can only achieve communism when 10 billion Moroccans and Somalians exist.
>>2881115Or they can just shoot them.
>>2881091In the words of Marx, "social scum".
>>2881109Yes, and over 1,000,000 immigrants have applied (2% of total Spanish population), so people are getting in before the deadline. It is a self-inflicted policy, not a "Zionist" conspiracy like OP implies.
>>2881364That would imply law and order in effect.
>No quantity of atom bombs could stem the tide of billions… who will someday leave the poor southern part of the world to erupt into the relatively accessible spaces of the rich Northern Hemisphere looking for survival
Wait, I thought this was a daily occurrence. Does that mean that chuds were lying to me all along for a few shekels? :(
Pre-disclosure note: I won’t take any side in the disputes for Gibraltar, Melilla and Ceuta, but I will say that the people making claims to others’ lands should either wage war for it or STFU instead of yapping about legalisms no one takes seriously except when convenient for themselves.
I’ll be honest with you. I can’t tell the migrants and the Spanish apart, especially since Spaniards aren’t that white, and have the same phenotype as the average Moroccan on average.
This is just Morocco pressuring Spain for its positive relations with Algeria. Both states will agree to a deal to help with the deportations in exchange of something. Same thing happened in 2021. Turkey does the same with Syrian refugees. Just another example of capitalist states using workers as cannon fodder.
>>2881370>Yes, and over 1,000,000 immigrants have applied (2% of total Spanish population), so people are getting in before the deadline.Only applied to people already working in Spain for years btw. And the vast majority are latin american.
>>2881401I agree saar, we simply cannot institute communism until 10 billion moroccans and somalians exist, it would be unethical
>>2881404
Whiny.
Fucking.
Baby.
Also who actually fucking cares about an enclave of Spain in Africa having Africans in it. Fucking Spanish simp. Go eat a sardine.
>>2881413
>zionist
How braindead are poluyghurs? The most rabidly anti-European jews are non-zionist.
>>2881413
>being retarded enough to believe social media takes
Damn no wonder you’re a nazoid
>>2881416>The most rabidly anti-European jews are non-zionistJudeobolshevism myth in my leftypol?!
Unsurprisingly this topic is the top post on preddit right now
>>2881429You mean the capitalist propaganda machine website is promoting reactionary bullshit? Who could have predicted this!?
>>2881364You want to shoot Africans who go from Africa to Africa? I think you might be racist.
>>2881433Race doesn't exist and we live on a floating rock in space, if a few eggs get cracked it doesn’t matter.
Leftypol is now third-worldists vs patsocs
>>2881374Imperialism is a natural fact, of capitalism
>>2881055>Some are saying that Israel and the US is trying to punish Spain through Morocco because of recent anti-zionist actionsYes, this is punishment for "anti-semitic policies" of spain. Netanyahu said as much.
>>2881084white hands typed this post
>>2881401>>2881055oh no poor people crossed an imaginary line, clutch your pearls
>>2881091Retards that think they will be rich and fuck blonde white women for free in Spain.
Ceuta and Melilla should be given to Western Sahara, problem solved.
>>2881055i hope morocco empties out their entire population into spain and the rest of the EU through schengen TBH. imperialist euros deserve far worse
>>2881055lmao euros have done holocaust level atrocities in africa and asia but act like sissified victims the moment an arab teenager crosses their sight.
The white mind is truly a fascinating machine
>>2881405the working man has no country gtfo my board /pol/ slime
>>2881433The people living in those exclaves are Moroccan ethnicity and are happy to be part of Spain because Spain actually treats them well and has done for 500 years. The people breaking in were escaping mistreatment and poverty in Morocco. Racism is a meaningless buzzword in that context, designed to let non white trash continue with their crimes, usually against their own people.
>>2881432Did you deliberately ignore the adverb “unsurprisingly,” or just not understand what it means?
>>2881531I don't know who that guy is but I too would like to know why these enclaves still exist
>>2881531>In 1986, Spain joined NATO. However, Melilla is not under NATO protection since Article 6 of the North Atlantic Treaty limits such coverage to Europe and North America and islands north of the Tropic of Cancer. Morocco could do the funniest thing
Europe deserves everything bad that happens to it. I don't give a shit about these colonizers and imperialists
And I don't give a fuck if you decide to elect the far-right. They will drive your country into the ground because they are incompetent retards but at least you showed it to these browns amirite
>>2881531It'd be kinda weird if another country had a tiny gated community in your country that you're not allowed to enter. Like what if Vatican City was off limits to Italians?
>>2881084Are these dirty poors stealing your job, cracker
>>2881401>>2881471People crossing borders has obvious serious practical implications for a country, especially regarding its labour market, housing availability, strains on social services, etc. "Borders are fake" is a ridiculous, ultra position to hold. It accomplishes precisely nothing regarding alleviating global poverty, only an end to imperialism can do that. It's the epitome of a pet issue pursued by intellectuals and petty bourgeois leftists divorced from the actual concerns of workers.
>itt Makzhen Islamo-Imperialist supporters
>itt Third-Worldists
>itt Euro-marxist racists
Morocco is more a colonial power than Social-ist-ish Spain is by far, annexing the Western Sahara, oppressing the Sahrawis, sending them into Ceuta under Amero-Israeli command to destabilize the country. Ceuta is an autonomous city that never was Moroccan. Wanting to expel native people just because they are white or it looks good on a map is beyond brainrotted.
>>2881593>back to Morocco>backdelusional. Another lefty fell for nationalist larp propaganda.
>>2881597Spaniards don't belong in North Africa. You're just putting them in harm's way. Cuban citizens won't invade Guantanamo Bay because they're civilized and fear death. Moroccans don't fear death, and the Spanish government refuses to use lethal force to defend the territory.
>>2881055Unironically an inter-imperialist conflict.
Israel
>muh hybrid warfare
Leave NATO and EU then. Actually be the so-called anti-imperialist hero you claim to be Spain.
Apparently most of these people have already been returned to Morocco according to the Spanish foreign Ministry
>>2881055All rightoids are chimping out about this. Its better to contain the situation.
This is not natural migration, since there are no women nor children, the zionist, colonialist and imperialist monarchy of Marocco is purposefully sending only young males (i hate how people refer to them as military-aged men) to stir up the racism in Spain so Samchez loses next elections and the zionist PPVox come in power
Ive read they have released some criminals just for this
>>2881115Ceuta and Melilla are not colonies, they have been Spanish teritory from centuries before colonialism existed
>>2881401Spain (and Portugal) are neither European nor white
>>2881405You cannot be a communist if you exclude other workers, stop the idpol
>>2881719>since there are no women nor childrenI'm pretty sure this is how most asylum seekers enter Europe. The men make the dangerous journey and their families join later when they have secured a right to stay.
>PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE LINE ON THE MAP THIS IS LIKE LE CAMP OF LE SAINTS WESTFALLEN BILLIONS MUST DIE<NNNNNNNOOOOOOOO You DonT Get IT!1! IF WE DONT SLAUGHTER THE BROWNS SPANISH TREATLIRITES WILL V00T FOR HITL3R11!!>>2881091Non-white
>>2881573People moving to a different city also has consequences for the local labor market, housing availability, availability of social services and so on.
Why not go back to feudalism or chattel slavery while you're at it?
>>2881719what's happening in that video?
>>2881732>PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE LINE ON THE MAP THIS Thats why theres no problem when israel crosses into the west bank
>>2881723Yes, maroccans and other immigrants work
>>2881733They are dropping them near Ceuta? It shows clearly the state of Marocco using them as pawns
>>2881732>NNNNNNNOOOOOOOO You DonT Get IT!1! IF WE DONT SLAUGHTER THE BROWNS SPANISH TREATLIRITES WILL V00T FOR HITL3R11!!I didn't say that, I was just expressing frustration since more people is getting fascist, I have no problem with migrants and I think they are positive in the long run if the notion of Spain and other imperialist nations are destroyed. The bourgeoisie yet again paving the way of communism
>>2881737I don't care if a a quadrillion jews migrate to Palestine. I draw the line at forcibly evicting people and destroying their homes.
Is it really that shit living in Morocco?
> Italy has temporarily suspended Schengen free movement with Spain and closed its air and sea borders, citing security concerns after the mass migrant influx into Spain’s North African enclave of Ceuta, Euronews reports.
italian fascism strikes again
>>2881744The Maroccan government is totally colonialist but its worth remainding this is just the opinion of a retarded zionist yankee, not an official statement of any Maroccan political (altho they are armed by the US and Israel)
>Michael Allan Rubin (born 1971) is an American historian, foreign policy analyst, government adviser, and military lecturer. He holds the position of a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). He previously worked as an official at the Pentagon, where he dealt with issues relating to the Middle East, and as political adviser to the Coalition Provisional Authority in US-occupied Iraq. >>2881745
How so?
>>2881746(Far) right governments in Poland and Italy, also Vance, immediately jumped in to put pressure on the Spanish SocDem government.
Has the west fallen yet?
>>2881776Spain is not a western country
>>2881749It's also worth mentioning that Morocco is historically the home of a large population of sephardic jews and Morocco's kings are staunch Israel/USA/UK allies since like 200 years. Morocco recently colonized West-Sahara, built a highway there and named it after Trump.
Their apartheid shithole is really tiny however the zionists are behind A LOT of stuff going on in geopolitics around the world. The kind of happening right now in Ceuta, the pictures it produces and the retarded ("open borders") shit certain "leftist" libshit politicians will inevitably say now in reaction is going to boost rightoid (pro zionist) parties across Europe like in 2015 and deal a nice blow to leftist parties who actually gained some popularity recently.
>>2881781Spain literally is thee Western country. In fact in Chinese Western County is literally its name.
I lived in Morocco for four months. This isn't a country from which you have to illegally storm a border fence as the only way to get out.
Wages are shit, and the king and his government are neoliberal dipshits. Unions are pretty much non-existing or heavily surpressed, although a protest culture does exist. They actually had a "cultural revolution" with "red guards" under Hassan II. which used aesthetics from the Chinese one, but only to "Westernize" and not become "like Algeria". Socialist/Communist parties are banned, mild SocDem is the best you get.
However, the infrastructure is okay, especially the train system, and you can live a good, safe life there. Corruption exists, but almost no criminal or mafiaesque networks that traffic opiods and stuff. Immigration into Europe should generally not be problem, especially since you already speak French.
Huge scammer culture though, almost as bad as India.
>>2881790Bro read too much Alatriste 😭
>>2881790Until one hundred years ago the French (the core of Europe alongside Germany) said that Africa started at the Pyrynees
>>2881798I was born in Spain so im just coping
What caused morroco to sell out to israel so hard?
>>2881826They get their imperial ambitions met in the Sahara, so funny to see the rest of the west giving Morocco its win because they're so racist too
I don't get it? it's literally a couple square miles of an exclave on the other side of the Mediterranean from Spain. They are just gonna go back to Morocco after they get bored? they haven't left Africa?
>>2881833>They are just gonna go back to Morocco after they get bored?90% already did according to Spanish authorities.
>it's literally a couple square miles of an exclaveIt's located at a strategic shipping lane, its terriotrial water reach over the exit of the straight of Gibraltar and post-Iran war we know how important shipping lanes can be.
>>2881837It's obviously at a strategic location just from looking at the geography; I don't know the history much but the brits have their exclave on the other side for similar reasons I imagine. I was more reacting to the right-wing framing that these people were somehow gonna get into mainland Europe when they aren't any closer than normal.
>>2881826Morocco is also long-term allies with the US which probably brought them closer to Israel, very much in a Saudi Arabia sort of way.
>>2881833You don't understand. The WEST has FALLEN. Andalusia 2.0 IS HAPPENING. Europe WILL bow to Mecca. Halal kebabs WILL be sold on the steps of VATICAN CITY.
>>2881841>more reacting to the right-wing framing that these people were somehow gonna get into mainland Europe when they aren't any closer than normal.Alright. Btw funfact: 50% of Ceuta's population already is Muslim and has historically been very high already. Lmao.
>>2881848Also very important: Gibraltar has joined the Schengen agreement last month with Spain as its guaranteer state. This means Spanish authorities, under a European mandandate have now extended limited authority over Gibraltar terriotrial waters in form of border checks, patrols, etc.
>>2881848oh no
if only zionist morocco had them instead
Morocco being an oppressed third world country has every right to liberate Ceuta from NATO dog Spain
>>2881877Morocco is the oppressor
>>2881854I was gonna ask how was that allowed in the first place but I guess it just makes sense considering where they live, the Uk isn't that petty I guess
>>2881790Trvke, the Habsburgs attempt at achieving hegemony in Europe triggered the consolidation of France and England as modern nation-states.
>>2881892>the Uk isn't that petty I guessYou are mistaking, they are that petty. It's just that the EU with its full-weight negotiated on the side of Spain because this was still fallout from Brexit. An external Schengen border to a non-EU member state would have collapsed the Gibraltar economy in the long run, because every second worker within the Gibraltar labor market is a frontalier. 95% of Gibraltar residents voted Remain.
>>2881732>People moving to a different city also has consequences for the local labor market, housing availability, availability of social services and so onMaybe but people aren't scrambling to do that by their millions, and even if they were it's inherently much easier to manage the flow of citizens from one part of the country to another than it is to manage an influx of totally new people without connections in the country, documentation, legal status/citizenship, who may not speak the language, etc. Whats the point of your position exactly? You must know that it wouldn't make a dent in global poverty, and that only ending imperialism and capitalism can do that.
>>2881904If imperialist nations are destroyed it'll be easier to organize the working class since the bourgeoisie will no longer be able to use racial and national idpol. Great replacement theory is progressive
>>2881905>If imperialist nations are destroyedImperialism is a product of capitalism. If you nuked all of Western Europe and North America out of existence new imperialist states would emerge within a generation. Anti-imperialism without socialism is an exercise in futility. Besides, Morocco is a thoroughly captured comprodor state.
>since the bourgeoisie will no longer be able to use racial and national idpolDo you unironically believe that racial and national idpol doesn't exist in the Global South?
>>2881906I meant like national identity sorry
>Do you unironically believe that racial and national idpol doesn't exist in the Global South?Mmm okay I forgot, but I think there is a difference, since they aren't countries of migrants, but imagine if 1 million non-latam migrants came each year + their children, in 50 years there would be more migrants, and migrants and their children usually don't have a great national attatchment/feeling, I'm myself a child of a migrant and a national and I barely feel Spanish
>>2881909>migrants and their children usually don't have a great national attatchment/feelingThey usually have attachment to their country of origin such as some gen 3 Turk still waving Turkish flags
>>2881910Maybe if they have parents of the same nationality and grow in ethnic enclaves
>>2881909>migrants and their children usually don't have a great national attatchment/feelingSounds like a Euro problem since the Americas specializes in eating foreigners and spitting out Canadians/Americans/Brazilians/Argentines/etc.
>>2881927More like an Euro strength
>>2881055>Some are saying that Israel and the US is trying to punish Spain through Morocco because of recent anti-zionist actionsApparently this is true.
Here's an article from Ynet from April, which outlines plans from a neocon thinktank to "get back at" Spain for not supporting zionist colonialism/genocide/war (by hitting a Spanish colony with "demographic pressure," ironically concocted partly to reward Morocco's vassal monarchs for supporting colonialism in the rest of western Asia):
Abraham Accords reach the Strait: how Israel can help Morocco reclaim its northAnalysis: US-Spain tensions over NATO, Iran create opening for Morocco to press claims on Ceuta and Melilla, with Israel positioned to back Rabat diplomatically within US-led alliance that increasingly favors cooperative partners over European holdoutsThe geopolitical earthquake shaking Washington's relationship with Madrid has opened an unexpected window for one of the Arab world's oldest territorial grievances. Spain's refusal to allow the United States access to its Rota and Morón military bases during the Iran campaign, its consistent failure to meet NATO defense spending targets, and Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez's confrontational posture toward the Trump administration have collectively generated something rare in North African affairs: a genuine crack in Spain's strategic armor over Ceuta and Melilla. Into that crack, Morocco's most consequential new partner, Israel, is uniquely positioned to press.
The pieces have been assembling for months. In March 2026, Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute, writing through the Middle East Forum, called on the Trump administration to formally recognize Ceuta and Melilla as occupied Moroccan territory, branding Spain "a colonial power running colonies across the Strait of Gibraltar." Days later, Representative Mario Díaz-Balart, chairman of the House Subcommittee on National Security and one of Marco Rubio's closest congressional confidants, declared publicly that the enclaves "are not in the geographic territory of Spain" but rather in Moroccan territory, and that their fate should be "established, negotiated, and discussed between friends and allies." This was not the fringe speaking. This was the architecture of a coordinated strategic repositioning.
Spain's estrangement from Washington has deepened further. An internal Pentagon email, reported by Reuters in April 2026, outlined options including suspending Spain from NATO over its refusal to facilitate U.S. operations against Iran. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made the administration's contempt for European free-riding explicit, singling out allies who refused to contribute to the Strait of Hormuz campaign. Trump himself had already called Spain "terrible" in March and directed his Treasury Secretary to cut economic dealings with Madrid. Critically, Article 6 of the Washington Treaty explicitly excludes territories in continental Africa from NATO's collective defense obligations, meaning Ceuta and Melilla stand legally exposed. The alliance umbrella Spain has long relied upon to insulate its colonial holdouts from diplomatic pressure simply does not extend there.
This is where Israel enters the equation, and does so with unusual leverage.
The Abraham Accords transformed Morocco from a quiet interlocutor with Israel into a formal military partner. In January 2026, Israel and Morocco signed a joint military work plan for the year during the third meeting of their Joint Military Committee in Tel Aviv, which the IDF described as deepening cooperation with a "key partner for regional stability." The two countries had already concluded a security cooperation agreement in 2021. This bilateral architecture gives Israel something it has rarely possessed in North African politics: direct strategic stake in Rabat's regional success.
That stake has an obvious application to Ceuta and Melilla. The Trump administration's Abrahamic coalition, built around shared opposition to Iran and common economic incentives, has created an operational triangular relationship between Washington, Jerusalem, and Rabat. Israel's voice in that triangle carries disproportionate weight. When Israeli officials signal alignment with a partner's strategic interests, that signal registers powerfully in a White House that has placed Abraham Accords expansion at the center of its foreign policy vision. Morocco's territorial claim over the enclaves is not simply a bilateral dispute with Spain; it is increasingly a litmus test for whether the Trump administration will reward its most cooperative partners over its most obstinate NATO members.
Israel can advance Morocco's cause through three distinct channels. First, through direct diplomatic signaling. Israeli acknowledgment that Spain's continued occupation of African territory undermines the post-colonial credibility that normalization frameworks require would reframe Ceuta and Melilla as a regional governance issue, not merely a bilateral spat. Second, through Washington corridors where Israel's influence is considerable, Israeli officials can amplify the case that Morocco's strategic contribution, anchoring the western Mediterranean, controlling the southern approach to the Strait of Gibraltar, and serving as America's longest-standing treaty partner, warrants concrete American support on its most persistent territorial demand. Third, Israel can expose Spain's glaring hypocrisy. Madrid has been among the loudest European voices condemning Israeli territorial policies and settlements. Spain recognized a Palestinian state in 2024 while simultaneously maintaining European enclaves on African soil that predate modern Israel by four centuries. That contradiction is potent and deserves to be driven home repeatedly in international forums.
None of this requires military adventurism. Morocco has consistently pursued its northern claims through legal, demographic, and diplomatic pressure rather than force. The model is patient and effective. Israel's role would be diplomatic amplification within an alliance structure already sympathetic to Rabat's position. The United States designates Morocco a Major Non-NATO Ally, has signed a new 10-year defense roadmap with Rabat, and is simultaneously threatening to suspend Spain from the alliance it refuses to support financially or operationally.
Spain finds itself diplomatically isolated at precisely the moment its most exposed territorial possessions lack a legal defense guarantee. The Abraham Accords created a framework for reconfiguring Middle Eastern and North African alliances in ways that serve American and Israeli interests simultaneously. Helping Morocco recover Ceuta and Melilla would serve that framework and punish a NATO member that has repeatedly chosen obstruction over partnership at the alliance's most critical juncture. For Israel, amplifying Morocco's claim is not charity. It is strategic investment in the partner that, across the Strait of Gibraltar, holds the key to one of the world's most vital maritime chokepoints.
https://www.ynetnews.com/opinions-analysis/article/bki11ns9tzx >>2881943Zionazis' only tactic is to colonize territories which they claim have been theirs for aeons or what
>>2881904>Maybe but people aren't scrambling to do that by their millionsLook up urbanization rates in South America, Africa and Asia these past decades. And the share of first generation (rural) migrants in many of their slums.
>an influx of totally new people without connections in the countryAnd What is this innate essentialist connection shared by someone moving from Anchorage to NYC, and the locals, that is not shared shared by someone from Ciudad Juarez and the locals in El Paso? (Or a Pole moving to Spain versus a Moroccan moving to Ceuta) Other than documents of course.
>Whats the point of your position exactly? That I don't care. Workers the world over are already 'competing' with each other, even if they live in different countries owing to global markets. First generation rural migrants compete with city dwellers. It doesn't matter if they do not speak the language, the principle remains the same.
Whether this is all organized by in cahoots with the Zionists is irrelevant. Note the different reactions to millions of Ukrainian migrants moving to Europe and millions of Syrians. (Or currently a few thousand Africans who haven't even crossed into continental Europe yet)
I wonder what the quintessential differences between two are… Considering both affected the (local) labour markets, housing availability and social services…
>>2881833>>2881843This and images of millions of virile young African men with impossibly large cocks impregnating millions of virgin blondes (of which there are obviously a lot in Spain) flashing in the minds of rightoids.
>>2881967>Look up urbanization rates in South America, Africa and Asia these past decadesThat's expected in a country in that stage of development. That doesn't mean it's a good idea to suddenly reimpose it on people in advanced countries.
>And What is this innate essentialist connection shared by someone moving from Anchorage to NYC, and the locals, that is not shared shared by someone from Ciudad Juarez and the locals in El Paso?Speaking the same language for one thing, but I wouldn't just dismiss documentation. That makes a huge difference for keeping track of the population and related demands on society. Somebody moving to a new city might introduce additional strain on the local government and services, but its obviously easier to manage at a national level than new people entering the country. A national government doesn't have to expand social services at a national level when people move around within the country. At most they'd just need to reallocate it from one region to another. It doesn't actually increase the burden on the state or society in general.
>I wonder what the quintessential differences between two are… Racism obviously. Everything I'm saying would apply to any sort of immigrant, including those from elsewhere in Europe or "white" countries. I make no distinctions on this basis.
Capitalism requires immigration to function.
>>2881969>>2881967Zionist not project grotesque rape fantasies challenge impossible
>>2881978The locals can also lack documentation. In many places I've lived it was landlords who had to inform authorities they had someone living at their properties. (Which they often didn't I suspect because they were avoiding taxes)
Everything you've mentioned can be managed at a local (urban) level. Speaking of which, this is not limited to 'that' stage of development as the same issues are present in the US, various European countries and East Asia. Cities are where the jobs and services are, so people move to the cities. The distance they had to travel makes no difference to the strain this puts on the housing supply or social services.
>Racism obviously. Everything I'm saying would apply to any sort of immigrant, including those from elsewhere in Europe or "white" countries. I make no distinctions on this basis.But that's my point too. I also make no distinction.
>>2881978I'm saying rightoids have these rape fantasies, and they're fairly open about it too. They often obsess about the men involved here, specifically young men.
>>2881975>Capitalism required your mother to functionTrue, increasing birth rates would benefit capitalism but the bourgeois want to pay people too little to have children.
As a result, capitalism needs these people who walked across the border.
Whats your thoughts on accepting migrants but conscripting them to planned labour allocation and making them do national service along with local youths building housing, railways, staffing parahealth etc?
Service gaurantees citizenship but instead of blowing up other proles, your service is in building the stuff society needs to reproduce itself?
>>2881509The issue is EU schengen area and Spanish asylum laws. They can legally only return those who leave willingly, those who don't leave will go through months lasting asylum process. They don't have any facilities to handle tens of thousands in Ceuta and moving the asylym seekers to mainland Spain poses new types of problems.
Plus these people are just dumped at the border and told to go over. it's all but confirmed that this is US and Israels punishment to Spanish government for aiding Palestine and hindering US war against Iran. I guess there is a message from the israelis' "look you complain about how we deal with our own brown unwashed masses, lets see how you deal with it when we dump 50k on your doorstep, you hypocrites."
>>2881848Is it really necessary to own Ceuta other than history and traditions
weighing down like a nightmare on the living? Anti-ship missiles can easily cover entire Gibraltar strait from Spanish mainland.
>>2881848>>2881854based
fuck morocco and fuck their ziorat king
>>2882036>Is it really necessary to own Ceutayes
Fuck Morrocco. Heil Sanchez.
If he was courageous he would team up with Algeria to take care of these ziorat.
>>2882063That, or make Ceuta and Melilla into independent states against their will. That would satisfy no one and make for a great troll, as well as make Spain get rid of the border crossing issue.
Or, better yet, have the Moroccan and Spanish royal families interbreed to form a single non-EU Eur-African kingdom.
Not sure if that would work compared to just, y’know, blocking the Moroccan migrants via sonic weapons and tear gas to deter them which, while cruel, would be less fatal and cruel than just shooting them.
>>2882073>Or, better yet, have the Moroccan and Spanish royal families interbreed to form a single non-EU Eur-African kingdom.the Morrocan royal family is so compromised with zionism i don't even know why that would be a good idea.
>>2882087Well well well…
>>2882073They would be independent in name only anyway, are morocco and algeria "independant" countries, if they're always getting pressured in their foreign policies?
>>2882091TIL:
>Casablanca[a] is the largest city in Morocco and the country's economic and business centre. Located on the Atlantic coast of the Chaouia plain in the central-western part of Morocco, the city has a population of about 3.22 million in the urban area, and over 4.27 million in Greater Casablanca, making it the most populous city in the Maghreb region, and the ninth-largest in the Arab world.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca I thought they were invading spain but turns out they're invading a territory that spain contorls in morocco.
nothing burger
>>2882063To be fair for a succdem Sanchez has recently been more courageous than the entire EU in regards to Israel/USA.
>>2881084get your mayo monkey ass back to your cave. i can smell how much you weigh from here cracker.
145 replies for this nothingburger… happeningfags are so desperate, its pathetic
>>2882007That would require capitalist governments to engage in rational economic planning and have the state do something other than protect le free markets.
>>2882142Sorry not sorry. No child pussy = No rangebans for cringe campists and no global empire. Simple as.
>>2881091scary non-white people who arent rich (this is sarcasm, for the mods)
So Israel and the Trump admin are basically doing to Spain what Trump regularly accuses Latin America of trying to do to the USA.
>>2882201It's really funny that this actual subhuman is now one of the main propagandists for the AmerIsraeli Pedophile Reich. Even moreso than oil oligarch funded outlets like the Daily Wire. On the other hand his visage makes me feel nothing but utter disgust.
>Spain is an adversary of both Israel and America
>thirdists dont care and still want Morocco to invade them even if it's at the behest of Israel
There is literally no better proof than this situation that this site is not filled with leftists but with nationalists who use the fact theyre from poor countries to excuse violence and tribalism with socialist set dressing. They dont even care that Spain is anti-imperialist, they just hate Europeans. A European country cannot do anything to escape their ire. They are tribalists, pure and simple. Reactionaries.
>>2882299>they just hate EuropeansThis has been apparent since 2016.
What is the point of this thread? What is there to discuss?
>>2882299>Spain is anti-imperialistbwahahah you're fucking retarded
>>2882315Yeah I know, thirdie, Euros are inherently imperialist blah blah blah youre just a racist. That's all it is.
>>2882325>still has colonial holdingsLike I said, youre just a thirdie reactionary. If youre using shit that happened 400 years ago as justification for violence now youre a reactionary and nothing you say will ever convince me otherwise.
>>2882306Cracker fee fees.
>>2882299>A European country cannot do anything to escape their ire. Boohoohoo
So what exactly do spaniards to in Cueta?>>2881848
Is it all just about laying claim to yhr waters? Now I am im favor of England keeping Gibraltr.
If Britain is removing border controls with Spain for Gibraltr, shouldn't Spain do the same with Cueta?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwydz60j3enoNew era for Gibraltar with removal of 118-year-old border controls with Spain12 July 2026
>>2882373Why would that possibly be how this works? Are you sincerely a medical retard?
>>2882398She looks MENA ngl
>>2882398>In a February 2021 interview with El Mundo, Peralta self-identified as a Falangist, a fascist, a "national socialist", a Holocaust denier, an admirer of Adolf Hitler, and an opponent of democracy. In the same interview, she condemned Spain's main far-right party Vox for not being extreme enough, saying "they disgust me more than Podemos".hmm, no I don't think I can fix her
>>2882399most spainiards do, they are traumatized by this fact
>>2882325>vast amounts of value>literally less than HungaryThey're closer to Chile and Russia than they are to the US. Meanwhile Morrocco is one of the most cucked comprador states in the world, engages in direct de jure colonialism of its own, and is actively working to attack Spain at the behest of Israel to punish them for non-cooperation with the Gaza genocide and war on Iran. You people are a joke.
>>2881531Leftypol is a zionist board we support Morocco here
>>2882429Spain is literally the only country in Europe refusing to cooperate with the attack on Iran, and this is an attempt to punish them for that. Why are you in favour of it? At this point Morrocco is objectively more reactionary than Spain.
>>2882427I support whatever makes more people hate Israel.
>>2882429sorry but committing an act of colonialism for 50 years, with pretty much no punishment, or even mentions on the topic, getting away with it, while claiming some territory that has never been yours, that has been spanish for so long? fuck off
this is a psyop tailor-made to get leftoids vomit the worst takes imaginable, i dunno what's the point. nazis will forget it in a week, tops.
>>2882434What is the status of the people actually living there? Do they have full rights as Spanish citizens? Are the impoverished or something? People seem to forget that colonialism is a social relationship, not just when you control overseas territory.
>>2882349Why are you quoting some celebrity when he's himself most likely quoting the PSOE transport minister that said this exact thing?
>>2882431punish them how? do explain what's the punishment here, because the only people feeling "punished" in spain are literally all hitler
this kinda sounds like an inter-imperialist conflict to me
>I see that antisemitic conspiracy theorists are using this tweet from 2019 as “proof” for their absurd blood libels against Jews and Israel.
This is absurd.
>This is the original 2019 tweet, and I explained exactly why I posted it in the thread.
>The tweet was intended to highlight the irony of Spain criticizing Israel’s presence in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) and calling to “Free Palestine,” even though this region is the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. It is filled with Jewish archaeological sites dating back thousands of years, makes up nearly half of Israel’s territory, lies only a few miles from Tel Aviv, and includes Jerusalem, Israel’s capital.
>At the same time, Spain still controls two enclaves in Morocco, on the African continent, across the Mediterranean. Yet Spain has no intention of giving up those territories, even though they are not essential to Spain’s security or survival, nor are they the cradle of the Spanish nation in the way that Judea and Samaria are for the Jewish people.
>So why does Spain preach to Israel about giving up Judea and Samaria while funding radical NGOs in Israel that advocate for Israel’s withdrawal from the area?
>The point of the tweet was to expose the irony, hypocrisy, and audacity of Spain’s demands of Israel.
>It was also meant to highlight the hypocrisy of the Arab Muslim obsession with the “Muslim land” of “Palestine,” while largely ignoring Spain’s continued control of territories on the African continent that were historically under Muslim rule.
Oy vey, it's annudah blood libel!
Justice for St. Simon of Trent!
>>2882435>this is a psyop tailor-made to get leftoids vomit the worst takes imaginabletrvke
the fact that the PSOE rhetoric gets profoundly shaken by a handful of morons crossing into a spanish enclave just shows how little left-wing governments in the imperial core matter, that's just a fact. they can't deal with some slight contradictions and crumble like marzipan dildos at the slight bit of pressure.
>>2882435This is a psy op to make leftoids unafraid to say "I bet the Jews did this."
>>2882398>>2882399>Yankees shocked when they realize their key tool for analyzing the world, 18th century radlib race politics, isn't adequate. You'd be mind-blown every second getting a rough outline of the history of the Mediterranean (Greeks and Ottomans? Spaniards and Arabs?) Or fascism (you know, that thing starting in Italy? A country. In Europe. East of the Atlantic).
>>2882446i'm gonna level with you, that's probably one of the most harmless takes you will get out of this.
>>2882434<that has been spanish for so long>wahhh wahh muh territorial integrity muh ancient and historical connection to this occupied land, do not deny us our heritage!!!its no coincidence these are the SAME arguments the Zionists deploy to defend their colonization of the west bank and gaza. shut your NATO zionist bitchass up
>>2882325Hey retard:
Compare the value extracted from the colonial holdings of
US
France
Spain
One is not like the others. And you'd know this if you knew anything
about the colonial holdings in question.
>>2882438By trying to make them seem like hypocrites who should shut up and let Israel ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Zionist government officials are literally posting shit like "Those Spanish antisemites criticize us for not wanting to live with Palestinians, and yet they don't want tens of thousands of Morroccans to enter their country? Curious!" They're just saying this outright
>>2881640 >>2882452>spain is imperialist just not AS imperialist as the america or england, therefore colonialism is okaysmartest euroid
>>2882452Spain is also exploited by the EU center, being apart of the Euro periphery.
>>2882454>"Those Spanish antisemites criticize us for not wanting to live with Palestinians, and yet they don't want tens of thousands of Morroccans to enter their country? Curious!"explain what is wrong with this question
>>2882431>Spain is literally the only country in Europe refusing to cooperate with the attack on Iranare you lying on purpose? many european nations refused, including the UK with their base in cyprus. the spain dickriding is sus
it's hard to square off not being fucking hitler and also entertain that illegal immigration from the global south is a form of punishment lol
>>2882460UK allowed the US to use Chagos, they are very much cooperating. Spain won't even let American planes cross their airspace.
>>2882459Because there's an obvious difference between controlling existing borders that have been established for centuries and conquering new territory so you can exterminate or expel the Indigenous population.
>>2882457I take it you found the task of finding even remotely relevant data to your first erroneous claim impossible due to your abject incompetence. I accept your concession.
>>2882462>Because there's an obvious difference between controlling existing borders that have been established for centuries and conquering new territoryok but the question is why dont spain want moroccans entering their country
>>2882465>you're Hitler if you think it's bad for Israel to engineer a migrant crisiswhether israel "engineered" it or not is irrelevant
>>2882464Because why should they? Every state in the world controls their borders. Massive influxes of people has negative effects on wages, housing, and social services while doing nothing to alleviate global poverty. Just the mere fact that one country is richer than another doesn't obligate them to allow anybody in.
>>2882467No it isn't, this is literally a Zionist psyop. The reasons for it happening is absolutely relevant because it's directly designed to advance Zionist interests.
thirdies should die within their borders sweaty that's how the world works, and the point of left-wing politics is to preserve the world as is :)
>>2882463>my poor innocent NATO nation is being invaded by the third world!!! let me tell you why the imperialists are the victim actually!!!!zionist euroid mentality on full display
>>2882469>No it isn't, this is literally a Zionist psyop.it's irrelevant because it shouldn't be this easy to trip so-called left-wing governments. there will be more crisis like this, and most of them wont be "engineered".
>>2882475
Where is the letter for countries that blame Israel.
>>2882464>ok but the question is why dont spain want moroccans entering their countryethnonationalism
so yeah man, moroccans should stay in morocco, but spain should get out of morocco, too. seems only fair. make all the spanish settlers gtfo, back to the mainland, or the beleares or whatever, and let morocco have ceuta and melilla and, while we're at it, let the polisarios have the west sahara. hell the white european descendants of the english should let the native americans and mexico have their lands back, too.
that ain't gonna happen, and you know it, because those lands don't belong to them anymore. you can't have 'em back, that's the whole reason I took 'em from you. duh.
>>2882479so close but no bestie
>>2882482fascism never left spain, let alone europe. imagine being the subject of a monarch lmao absolutely cucked
>>2882431JIDF/ziobot, perhaps.
On a side note there might be more behind this happening than mere punishment for Sanchez and Mossad doing the usual Mossad things (cooking 2015 type vibes to boost support for their rightoid cuck parties in the EU).
Sanchez' succdems might not run Spain's govt forever but Israel/US awarding Morocco with taking over Spain's exclaves for being such a good asset would be more of a long-term project for the zionists in the region. Not sure how Brussels would deal with it. Ceuta and Melilla are certainly kind of a pain in the ass even though they aren't in the Schengen area, however their citizens might actually prefer not getting annexed by Morocco.
>>2882489I'm still curious as to whether or not Spain's relationship with these enclaves can even really be called colonial. Is there any materialist basis to consider the people there more oppressed than the average Spanish worker?
>colonialism is when quality of life
>>2882495Colonialism is when one part of the population is subjected to intensified exploitation and discrimination on the basis of nationality. Its not when you control a piece of land that isn't physically attached to the rest of your country.
>>2882282>So Israel and the Trump admin are basically doing to Spain what Trump regularly accuses Latin America of trying to do to the USA.i think that was more of a biden thing, with biden apparatchiks constantly claiming that migrant caravans from south america were phenomenons "engineered" by AMLO to extract concessions from biden and trip biden up ahead of elections. the reality is that AMLO was sloppily navigating the contradiction between being a "humanist" government and not shooting migrants at the southern border. like this "migrant crises" are so unique to left-wing govs in the imperial core because they have already acquiesced to the fascist framing of seeing migrants as fundamentally undesirable subhumans, so an organized group of migrants crossing the border is automatically an opportunity for fascists to weaponize it by framing it as a deliberate invasion. actually the relationship between mexico and the US is somewhat similar in the sense that morocco has long been tasked with "containing" immigration from africa, it's no secret that spaniards have exported police brutality to morocco's borders. so it's worth asking what if morocco becomes lax with immigration enforcement, how would sánchez even navigate such a scenario.
>>2882498so true bestie, the UK's relationship with northern ireland is also non-colonial! those dirty outsiders should stay OUT of the land we rightfully conquered hundreds of years ago! zionists everywhere agree!
>>2882496Don't be silly now, you anglos have used it as one for centuries! It's practically in your patriotic tradition! Against those dirty Irish, Italians, Greeks, Turks, Jews…
>>2882494I highly doubt that Ceuta's worker's are worse off than workers in other Spanish exclaves such as the Canary Islands and mainland Spain. One of my best friends has a home on the Canary Islands a couple months every year. It's 100% Spain/EU including all the benefits and bad things.
This is all very basado. I hope this drives a further wedge between Spain and the rest of the Zionist-EU. Europe will keep trying to sweep their Zionist influence under the rug until the crisis gets too big to.
Just so this discussion can make any sense:
PSOE is a neoliberal shithole of a party responsible for the privatization of almost all SOEs that Spain used to have, and are to this day cutting shit under a succdem rethoric. The only thing allowing them to sustain that rethoric that, for some reason, they are slightly less neoliberal than the PP, and less prone to protagonizar corruption scandals. Their recent foreign policy moves against USA and Israel shouldn't make you forget that. I am not an expert but the explanation for those moves are, to me, the following:
1. Electoral strategy to keep the party in power, because of Spanish people's generally progressive mentality. There are many arguing Sanchez's personal rule over the party and his careerism as an important factor in this move, but this is more likely fash rethoric.
2. They are pivoting towards Chinah.
>>2882533>They are pivoting towards Chinah.In your dreams
>>2882451i'm sorry but pointing out the historic ownership of a region by a people is not the same, i mean you can say "IT'S ZIONIST ARGUMENTATION!!!!" all you want, but you actually have to use an example they do, these territories are about as spanish as you can get, there is no colonial relationship between them, like there is in israel, that there is none proves all you're mad about is that they happen to own territory that makes you mad since it isn't "for them", that's it
>>2882510there is a colonial relationship in northern ireland, there is not in ceuta, you can piss and cry about it but that's not gonna change the fact of the matter
>>2882544LMAO!
Doesn't this in combo with the DC think tank piece just a few months ago and the footage of Moroccan military escorting the truckload of migrants stacked like sardines (pretty sure it's illegal) prove definitively prove what's going on?
>>2882481People from Ceuta and Melilla aren't settlers retard, great portion of the Iberian peninsula was under islamic rule hundreds of years ago and until 1492 there was a muslim kingdom in the Iberian peninsula, countries can have land in other countries, just like how turkey has territory in Europe
>>2882544Maybe it's all a rulling class psyop to do the whole migrant xenophobia dance and divide the workers. They're afraid of anything left of Thatcher getting a hold in European governements.
>engloids piss and shit over argentina claiming falklands
>espanoids piss and shit over morocco claiming ceuta and melilla
the euroid soul knows no limit to its depravity
>>2882559Ceuta and Melilla have never been part of Marocco, since they are older than Marocco as a country they can't belong to Maroccans if thwy were never Maroccan, also, like only a little more than half of the population of Ceuta and Melilla are Spaniards, muslims and christians live together there
>>2882566
thank you mr trump
>>2882573<Judea and Sumeria have never been part of Palestine, since they are older than Palestine as a country they can't belong to Palestinians if thwy were never Palestinianyou are Ziorat scum
>>2882576Whatever, it's a loose loose situation. Actually, better it belonging to Spain, otherwise that maritime territory would be basically USA
>>2882576What should be done? Settling hundreds of Maroccans there and in the Canary islands? And after that getting back Gibraltar? Why are you taking the side of a zionist nation actively engaging in colonialism themselves?
>>2882576>side with israel or else you're a zioratYeah I don't think anyone is falling for this one tbh
>>2882581>Settling hundreds of Maroccans there can't exactly 'settle' land thats yours now can you
>Why are you taking the side of a zionist nation actively engaging in colonialism themselves?When israel sold cutting edge fighter jet technology that america subsidized for them to Communist China i didn't complain, sometimes they do things that undermine the imperialists and benefit the periphery
>And after that getting back Gibraltar?obviously
>>2882581Morocco should take territory from Spain and fuck off from Western Sahara
>>2882585>>2882586Americans love talking like if they know more about a country than the residents themselves
Spain isn’t actually anti zionist, you’re falling for larp
All of Spain belongs to the Ummayad caliphate anyway
>>2882582When you side with Morocco you side with Israel. And Israel was involved in this little stunt against Spain.
>>2882510Northern Ireland fits the definition I just gave. It's substantially poorer than the rest of the country, and the brunt of that is borne by the Catholic population as a direct result of centuries of de jure discrimination.
bros Sanchez deported all the BAC and even possibly the BBCs…. Lasalleans are the real fascists.
>>2882811undeniably based. NATO will not survive the winter
>>2882729>BACNo such thing sweetie
>>2882576>you are Ziorat scumi'm not moroccan
>>2882585>can't exactly 'settle' land thats yours now can youWhat makes it theirs? Non-blood-and-soil arguments only.
>>2882853
NATO dickrider
>>2882855You support Morocco, not me.
Death toll from migrant rush into Ceuta rises to 72https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/death-toll-migrant-rush-into-ceuta-rises-72-2026-08-02/
>The death toll from Thursday's mass rush into Spain's North African enclave of Ceuta from Morocco reached at least 72 on Sunday as five more bodies were found along Ceuta's coast, officials said.
>The Spanish government representative in Ceuta, Miguel Angel Perez, told reporters on Sunday that, in addition to the 72 fatalities, more than 1,000 people had been treated by health services since Thursday. The situation in the city had improved markedly, he said, but more remained to be done to re-establish normality
>"It pains me deeply that young people are dying at sea. It’s not right that, in the year 2026, women with children as young as two months old should be crossing the sea only to die," said Karima Abenaz, a French national in Ceuta with family in Morocco, holding back tears.
>"In Morocco, there’s food, there’s everything we need," she added. "If we don’t have a decent job, we should go on strike and demand our rights from the government. We shouldn’t be dying at sea, it’s not right."I really don't understand. Morocco may be poor, but not that poor. They're like Indonesia level. Why would people take such risks? And why are they drowning? Are they trying to enter via the coast?
Leftists are now willing to admit that migrant waves are a hybrid warfare strategy now that an Israeli ally is doing it. But when it was being done by Russia/Belarus/Turkey leftists were like "wow Europe is such fascists for not allowing migrants".
>>2882874Morocco still has a fucked up economy with little economic opportunities for the youth with almost half of them being unemployed, so a lot are attracted by the north
Now that the dust has settled, did anything even happen?
>>2882883Lmao is this literally Mossad posting on my /leftypol/ at this point?
>>2882883Migration flows themselves are not dependent on Putler or the king of Morocco scheming from their castles to send browns across the border. They're dependent on the relative advantages provided to the workers who migrate, the firms that rely on their cheap labor, and the fallout of military imperialism and capitalism making a significant chunk of the world unlivable shitholes. Even rightoids like Meloni realized this and had to look for alternative ways to stem this problem like investing in the poor shitholes migrants come from. Unfortunately, retarded eurocattle will never get this material reality through their inbred skulls. Instead they will cry at the nation-state to solve the problem, vote for Hitler 2 and organize pogroms.
>>2882900Mossad is here no doubt, but this is likely one of those anti-communist autism score88 Visegrad/EUrocrat NAFOids.
>>2882883Leftists were saying the same thing when Russia/Belarus/Turkey did that. That was a big discourse at the time.
>>2882883If antiimperialists do is based, if the imperialists/zionists do it is cringe
>>2882887Sure but unless you're fleeing war or Congo-tier poverty it doesn't really seem worth risking your life. For what? To pick tomatoes for two Euros an hour or something?
>>2882915Putler and Lukashenko just let migrants through who wouldn't stay in Belarus or Russia anyway. It's a stretch to say that this "hybrid warfare" when the West puts a gazillion sanctions on Russia but somehow expects them to stop migrants heading for the EU and take care of them?!!
Turkey used refugees for leverage and blackmail, to get concessions from Europe. This was always widely pointed out and criticized in leftist circle.
In case of Morocco, yes, it seems like this was literally targeted as a way of hybrid warfare against Spain - probably instigated by state actors.
there should be a single /geopol/ thread where all the inter-imperialist nothingburgers are contained, any mention of this bourgeois pseudoscience outside of it should be a permaban
>>2882811So Morocco pushes to annex Ceuta. Israel and the US either tolerate it or Morocco acts on behalf of their geopolitical interests in the region. Morocco went ahead and flooded Ceuta with tens of thousands of Moroccan settlers just like it flooded West-Sahara with settlers before, who eventually outnumbered the (mostly left-leaning) West-Saharan natives there.
Brussels does nothing, calls Morocco "a good and reliable ally", but complained that Cucktin "weaponized the events in social media against the EU". If Trump and Netanyahu piss into their liberal NAFO cuckfaces at the next big ZOG summit live on camera they would say thank you and then rage in SPIEGEL about how Cucktin weaponized Netanyahus and Trumps cocks to manipulate the weather.
Meanwhile rightoid zioshits blame Spain's "leftist politics", as expected. It's so tiresome.
Pedro Sanchez stands against the zionist state and his moroccan puppet. Anyone who tries to whitewash the loyal soldier of Great Satan & Co should do some selfcritic.
>>2882568UK and Spain are in the right here. Their opponents are Zionist puppets.
>>2882479Spanish and Moroccans are like 95% the same people genetically speaking.
<How could this happen!!! Migrant flows are not at the whim of (x person in power)>He reached Tétouan to find the city completely overwhelmed. “Young men were running through the streets, flooding every corner,” he said. By the time a second taxi took El Abbas to Fnideq, the town bordering Ceuta, he realised that the usual blockades and checkpoints preventing people without European documents from even approaching the frontier had been removed.>"The Moroccan police were shouting at us: ‘Go, go, go! Run now, run into Spain,’” he said. “The night before, they were beating people. But that morning they were letting us through. Nothing made sense.”>Despite the crowds, El Abbas noticed the police were only letting Moroccans cross over. “All the sub-Saharan migrants were being pushed back by force.”https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/02/ceuta-border-crossing-spain-moroccohttps://archive.is/3A4yZ >>2882941Because their real country is next to it and two euros are actually much much better than what you would get back in morocco, so you can retire at 30 and enjoys "luxurious" vacations when you go back to your family you're sending the money to ?
>>2882129It's an antizionist festivity
>>2882941You can get on refugeebux. I get 220 eur a month from French govt and free housing.
>>2883402Why tho? Are you not allowed to work?
>>2883421Just don't want to
And well yeah they give a work permit only after 6 months and I arrived 2 months ago. I guess I could get a job when they give the work permit
>>2883429But if you do get a job they take away the refugeebux which is a bad incentive IMO although I would still get way more even on min wage
>>2883430R U Ukrainian or MENA?
>>2883509Russian lol
I just said that im gay
>>2883546Oh wow, didn't know you could get refugeed by being gay
>>2883546Can you get citizenship like that in the near future?
>>2883559You love lumpen cock don't you. Hey Russian guy I think you got some score out here, some thrill piled *. You are absolutely crazy about lumpen cock, I can see it, you either are a lumpen romanticizin it or you envy lumpen poverty dignity, you envy the dignity of poverty cause you feel spiritually poor yourself.
>>2883577Russia declared the whole LGBT population terrorists so that made them eligible for political asylum.
>>2883580Imagine being this mad.
>>2883581But ca they get citizenship, cause that would be a juicy information right there, can save a lot o trouble to Russian friends out there in the world, not realizing they are gay. I mean, it could be a good exploit
>>2883582Hey man to each their own, there's nothing wrong in being crazy about lumpen cock, it doesn't hurt nobody. Oh no no, no problem with that, there are worse things
>>2883578Yeah but not soon
So the path is 6 months Dublin procedure (I entered EU by asking for asylum at Bosnia-Croatia border but bc my gf is trans they won't send us to Croatia bc she cant start/continue hormones legally there) then 3-16 months actual procedure. They'll do 3-5 interviews and check my story for logical consistency, knowledge of LGBT community, etc
Then if they approve it I can apply for a refugee travel document and travel, it's basically the same as passport but i'd need a visa for countries outside EU
After that when I wait 7-10 years and pass a French language test I'd get citizenship. It doesn't really offer any perks other than travel and right to vote
>>2883584LGBT is the most popular strategy for Russian refugees in EU now because it doesn't require any documentation backing it up. Some also get for political position but it's more difficult because you need documentation that you're persecuted bc of it, and e.g. if you donate to Ukraine army or protest in Russia you're gonna go to prison and if you donate outside Russia you cant enter Russia ever without going to prison so it's less popular.
There were some Jehovah's Witnesses and other banned sects in Russia in my refugee camp in Croatia but you gotta know the lore for this to work because they'll ask on the interview
>>2883592Oh, thank you for the data, good luck to you and your gf
>>2882559How are they settlers when they were born there?
Not a single moroccan coming over was born there.
>Thousands of illegal migrants from Africa storm the border of the Spanish enclave of Ceuta from Morocco
Why do we care about this? Don't thousands of migrants come to europe all the time?
>>2886601Because there's strong evidence that it was instigated by US/Israel in an attempt to destabilize Spain's government in retribution for its opposition to the genocide in Gaza and the war on Iran.
>>2886601It's more of a Israelis storm over a Palestinian city in hopes of settling it kind of situation rather than migrants fleeing en masse.
>>2886602That sounds stupid. What evidence? How does this "destabilize" the Spanish government?
Again, don't refugees and migrants come into europe all the time? Specifically the border crossing between morocco and spain has been a mess for decades
>>2886603What are you talking about? These migrants got tanks, jetfighters and and an advanced military? How is it anything like israeli settlers?
>>2886606>These migrants got tanks, jetfighters and and an advanced military?Give it a year
>>2886623The dream of the third worldists will come true
>>2886606>That sounds stupid. What evidence? How does this "destabilize" the Spanish government? How about you try reading the fucking thread you stupid asshole.
>>2886630How about you just tell me this oh so strong evidence faggot
>>2881084It makes rightoids seethe so I support this.
The only anti-genocide activities i'm aware of Spain doing besides supporting Ukraine are shaking hands with the leader of the west bank. Not the leader of Gaza but the leader fo the west bank. Is that enough to piss those little shits off? Yes. But by that logic nobody supports the ROC
You guys are little kids. You think it's an epic geopolitical conflict about colonialism, Israel, NATO, third-worldism and nationalism?
The reality is much more simple and boring than this.
>In December 2022, Ministers and high-level representatives of the partner countries and organisations of the Rabat Process met in Cádiz for the 6th Ministerial Conference of the Euro-African Dialogue on Migration and Development (the so called ‘Rabat Process’) to adopt the Dialogue’s new multi-annual cooperation programme for the next five years (2023-2027). During the event, the Cadiz Action Plan was adopted: it addresses five action areas, including on regular migration and mobility, on asylum and protection of persons in need of international protection, and on prevention and effective reduction of irregular migration, fight against migrant smuggling and trafficking in human beings.[2]
>In August 2022, the EU announced the intention to allocate more than EUR 500 million to Morocco for the period 2021-2027, a budget that is 50% higher than the previous one, including for border management and police cooperation.[89](Source:
https://asylumineurope.org/reports/country/spain/asylum-procedure/access-procedure-and-registration/access-territory-and-push-backs/)
The €500 million agreement is coming to an end in 2027 and Morocco is putting pressure on Spain to renegotiate more sweet sweetvEuro bucks, it's that simple.
They already did this in 2021:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Morocco%E2%80%93Spain_border_incidentMembers of the Guardia Civil also reported spotting Moroccan intelligence agents among the migrants.
That said, Mossad might still be involved. There is absolutely no way something like happened organically, they had to psyop or pay these 60000 "migrants" to do this.
>>2893208>The €500 million agreement is coming to an end in 2027 and Morocco is putting pressure on Spain to renegotiate more sweet sweetvEuro bucks, it's that simple.i already said in this thread that morocco is simply exploiting the fact that they're effectively spain's border police to yield concessions taking advantage of the current juncture, that's what a comprador state does. the migration crisis is not moroccan, and certainly not manufactured by israel, like they can even do that, it's european-made with israel just opportunistically poking holes in PSOE's empty garbage rhetoric, so they can have a more slavish pro-israel guy, like that changes anything. they can do this because retarded liberals like sabocat, much like PSOE and Pedro Sanchez, already conceive migration as de-facto a net-negative, so they have no answer for this, except to keep propping up a comprador government so they can keep playing militarized police at the border and occupying western sahara because they're cowards afraid of getting their own hands dirty.
could be one of the biggest landback movements in history
sorry angloid but spain is rightful moroccan territory
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