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Why is it that the surviving members of the George W. Bush administration who acted as the architects of the Iraq War have never faced any legal penalties for what they did?

The 2003 US invasion of Iraq was arguably one of the worst human rights atrocities of the past 50 years. Over 1 million Iraqi CIVILIANS were killed. If that's not a low key genocide similar to Gaza I don't know what is. But it's even worse knowing this war was based entirely on a gigantic lie (a "noble lie" if you will) by some of the slimiest, most diabolical villains ever known to American politics. Yes, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld are dead and rotting in hell. But George W Bush, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith are still alive. Neocons Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan and John Bolton who were the top dogs in PNAC (Project for a New American Century), which called for massive military spending and preemptive attacks (also a "New Pearl Harbor" which conveniently happened on 9/11) are also still alive. WHY HAVEN'T ANY OF THEM EVER BEEN CHARGED AS WAR CRIMINALS?????

The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics. Many Neocons from the Bush II era have now since become Democrats and publicly supported Kamala Harris over Trump on the basis Trump wasn't Neocon enough. These people have names and addresses and have to face some kind of legal penalties so the world can finally have closure and the Neocon war criminals can finally reap what they sowed.

>>2883310
>Why is it that the surviving members of the George W. Bush administration who acted as the architects of the Iraq War have never faced any legal penalties for what they did?
because the system was functioning as intended and war criminals are in fact the prime product of the US government?

The “winners” of the war are never charged with war crimes. Also, Israel is far more evil than America.

I hate imperialism as much as you, but why would this matter now? Isn’t Paul Wolfowitz like 90 years old? John Bolton the same age? What’s the use in pressuring the ICC to try these aging neocons? Maybe this would have been something Obama could have done 15 years ago but it has no relevance to today.

I swear ChatGPT is run by neocons.

>>2883323
>$cam Altman's vaporware produces answers I don't like
no shit

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>umm 12 people were responsible for war please take them and spare capital
l m a o

>>2883323
>violating BDS by using a Zio-owned app

>>2883369
>activism
>>2883447
>Those were from different groups of iraqis chimping out at other iraqis
They were US and Iran backed groups that didn't exist in the country prior to the invasion and got in to destroy the local cross-sect/ethnic resistance. We have documents of when and how they crossed the Iran border and the Syrian border. While we also have video and literary documents of sunni-shia solidarity in the face of invasion during the early years of the invasion. divide et impera o algo

>WHERE DID THE NEOCONS COME FROM?
Athens and Jerusalem

If you don’t understand that reference you shouldn’t be writing about this topic. But Maupin speaks out of his ass 90% of the time anyway.

>>2883313
>>2883318
This, unfortunately.

>>2883310
>”Straussian cabal”
2005 called. They want their scapegoat back.

>>2883664
Yeah well the JERK STORE called and they're running out of YOU

>>2883310
>watched the whole video
>literally calls Trotsky a “Jewish supremacist” in the end
Figures Maupin keeps invoking Medieval Christian antisemitism in his talks. At this point, he’s a preacher LARPing as a tankie. Pathetic.

>>2883664
To be fair, Power of Nightmares was a huge redpill for a lot of us who were in high school in the mid/late 2000s.

>>2883310
>Why is it that the surviving members of the George W. Bush administration who acted as the architects of the Iraq War have never faced any legal penalties for what they did?
Read up on Clean Break and PNAC some time. It was a part of the joint US-Israeli operation to reorder the MENA region under their domination. The invasion of Iraq was planned as early as 1999 under the name "Operation Desert Crossing." Clean Break was a bipartisan operation that was planned under Clinton, started under Bush and was continued by Obama, Trump and Biden. If they indicted BushCo, they would have had to indict themselves.

>>2883713
>US-Israeli
Iran and gulfies offered more tangible support to the US invasion than Israel ever did, Egypt did more than Israel by opening up the Suez

This fact absolutely mind rapes shitlibs since it demolishes their clash of civilization meme

Kek, remember when Bill Kristol started crying over Trump on Morning Joe?

>>2883723
Saddam had bad politics and ruined Ba’athism, doesn’t make the US or Israel good

>>2883723
People forget Iran LOVED the US invasion of Iraq since they wanted Saddam out. They only changed their tune once Neocons began threatening them.


>>2883310
>>2883323
You think Paul Wolfowitz or any of the other neocons underwent metzitzah b’peh as babies?

>>2883817
>US is the greatest satan… except if Iraq is around
lol tell that to Iran bro unlike me they supported the invasion and destruction of IRAQI PEOPLE (not "Saddam")

>>2883886
Undoubtedly yes.

>>2883886
>>2884276
>socdem hours

Isn’t “neoconservatism” just standard US foreign policy since the end of WWII?

>>2883601
TBH Maupin has never made a worthwhile insight in his life.

>>2883310
Neocons are the woke
Every neocon is a liberal in disguise who like war

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>>2884323
you have to donate a certain amount to the CPI to hear the good insights. a chairman's suits are not cheap.

>>2883310
Who brings the charges?

Also, by this logic you’d have to try all living US presidents for war crimes (yes, even Obama).

>>2884331
Literally styling himself as a cult leader.

What's the evidence PNAC did 9/11?

>>2883313
>>2883318
People act as if the Iraq invasion was unique and not regular ol' US imperialism.

>>2884515
Burger chauvinists and their pathological obsession with blaming da juice for everything

>>2884519
You can take them if you want them Millei. We can even pay you.

>>2883713
So Bill Kristol is as much a war criminal as the rest of them? Interesting.

>>2884528
No one wants to take in smelly burgers

>>2883310
>The Straussian cabal is very real
Oy vey, cool it with the antisemitism.

>>2884515
on the one hand, it was not unique, just as you say. It was pretty basic US imperialism. On the other hand, it was unique in the sense that it was a NATO coalition invasion, not just the US, even Ukraine helped despite not being in NATO, and it was also unique in the sense that, unlike Afghanistan, the US didn't even bother with a plausible excuse like "The Taliban is harboring Osama Bin Laden who did 9/11." but was clearly trying to finish off what they had already started with the gulf war in 1991, "weapons of mass destruction" as an excuse. Here was this Ba'athist regime that clearly had no love for the Wahhabist and Salafist militants and the US was making this out to be a GWOT issue.

>>2884902
That Baathist regime also had no love for IRGC islamists that the US put in power


>>2884903
no love for Israel either

>>2884906
Point is we can all ignore the material roots of US imperialism and conjure up idealist conspiracies to tacitly defend the empire

So what exactly do the neocons want?

American Empire? That’s what the US has always been.

Rule by intellectual elites AKA philosopher kings? That sounds based, actually. Plato was a proto-communist and philosopher kings are chads.

Jewish messianism? Also based given that the Jewish messiah is supposed to usher in communism.

So what’s going on here that I need to be worried about?

>>2884915
Not really what I was doing or trying to do, but yes, anyone "can" do that if they want.

>>2884925
stupid bait

>>2884927
You're running circles around yourself to essentially save the good name of US imperialism from being tarnished by another war for capital

>>2884929
Why are they wrong?

>>2884925
r/ultraleft material right here.

>>2884891
"Straussian cabal" conspiracy is just "Cultural Marxism" conspiracy for liberals.

>>2884925
Dafuq am I reading?
>sees flag
Oh.

>>2884925
>>2885270
She is the a Greek-Australian Empanada who chose to stay in straya and get transitioning.

>>2885271
In good company with the other legendary Greco-Strayan, Drew Pavlou.

What a credit to your Greco-Strayan Race.
>YPG-flag
>Bad Empanada
and
>Drew Pavlou

>>2884925
This is a question to ask Maupin, since he's obviously the expert.

>>2884925
I mean, wasn’t Stalin technically a philosopher king?

>>2885723
A huge number of Americans supported the war on the basis it was revenge for 9/11.

>>2885723
muslim regimes, including le based ones, are infinitely more guilty of enabling the invasion of Iraq than the average american citizen.

not acknowledging this naked fact speaks to how disingenuous opportunists are and how low they're willing to sink even mocking the bloodshed of millions of workers

>>2885792
Elaborate please. This sounds like victim-blaming.

>>2885799
Who fascinated the invasion of Iraq? What lands were used as a launching pad? Whose waters allowed US armament? Which countries operated CIA blacksites? Who backed the new regime? From where did the militias who to this day brutalize the population into submission come from? Which countries joined the privatization campaign that doomed the place?

The answer is every country, a cross-camp massacre of workers by international capital, no different than Gaza today, or the Holocaust yesterday.

>>2885799
>This sounds like victim-blaming.

Get real.

>>2885810
USA and the neocons/Straussians (perhaps Israel too) are the only ones to blame for this.

>>2885831
It is. The Muslim countries were forced to comply with America and israel.

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>>2883318
Israel is just an extension of US imperialism, and they are way behind US in terms of war crimes.

>>2885908
>>2885985
>the CIA forced islamists like chalabi and alawai to fabricate evidence, what do you mean they were wannabe bureaucrats motivated by self interest?
>multinational investors? they were forced to exploit Iraqi oil at gunpoint
>housing US troops and allowing them to arm for years with the explicit goal of invading Iraq? ermm…
kys retard

>>2886042
AIPAC virtually controls America. Every neocon is an Israel First Zionist. Tell me, why are you forbidden to criticize Israel and Zionism in American politics?

>>2886086
You can find collaborators in every country on the planet

>>2886105
The collaborators are the countries themselves

>>2885799
It's an open secret the USA's foreign policy in the SWANA has always been to support the Muslim Brotherhood, because the MB is viciously anti-communist and supportive of free market capitalism. This is, paradoxically, why the US allows certain Muslim politicians like Mamdani, Ilhan Omar, and now this guy in Michigan to take positions of power: all of them are under the same ideological line as the MB. They're pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist of course, but they're supportive of US foreign policy on everything else. There's also a HUGE amount of Turkish and Qatari money flowing into the US. Nearly every major Sunni mosque in America is funded by Qatar and Türkiye, and the US allows it because they want to keep the Muslim population in-check. Qatari/Turkish interests are the interests of the MB. Hell, al-Jazeera is Qatari state media that fully promotes the MB line on nearly everything.

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>>2886109
I don't believe it, but if there are secret Muslim power-brokers de-zionizing America, I support it.

>de-zionizing America
Can I post amerimutt speech bubble or is it bannable for triggering jannies?

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>>2886117
Why don't you say what you mean?

>>2886114
How many of these pro-Palestine talking heads are explicitly pro-Iran vs. pro-Qatar?

>>2886114
>>2886127 (me)
Let me give you another example as to what I mean:

Every single time you hear of a conflict in the world involving "Muslims" (quotation marks because the term is used very loosely) you see al-Jazeera and other MB-affiliated media portray said conflict as one of religious persecution or outright Muslim genocide? Gaza is a very obvious genocide, but when it comes to, say, the Uyghur issue it's very much one of Uyghur separatism and the CPC's response. Yet MB-affiliated media is deadset on pushing the idea of a "Uyghur genocide" because it has a vested interest in promoting pan-Islamism. I'm no fan of Modi, but I remember hearing endlessly about alleged pogroms against Muslims in India in the late 2010s from al-Jizz. Same thing with Russia cracking down on the Muslim-majority regions in the Caucuses. Same thing with the Rakhine state in Myanmar. Or the fighting between Muslims and Christians in Nigeria which of course was framed as Christian Nigerians massacring Muslim Nigerians. In truth, nearly all of these conflicts are either civil wars or involve separatist movements. Very much unlike Palestine/Gaza, these are not actual genocides but are framed as such by MB, Qatari, and Turkish media. Ask yourself why that is.

>>2884891
If the cabal is real, how do I join?

>>2883601
>But Maupin speaks out of his ass 90% of the time anyway.
He also recycles information over and over and over ad nauseum. I think his recent books are mostly verbatim content from his older books.

>>2884925
>and philosopher kings are chads.
Bruh, who the fuck wants to be ruled by kings?

I have a philosopher king-sized penis.

>>2883310
>The Straussian cabal is very real and still holds loads of ideological power within American politics.
Not really. The neocons thing died out in 2016.

>>2883310
Why does Caleb believe Trotsky was a “Jewish supremacist” exactly? He gives no evidence:

>>2886676
go to your local center for political innovation branch. take a D-Meter test today.

>>2886676
Micro?

because underneath the surface of your pristine shiny high tech first-world society and all the performative egalitarianism of the people who live in it is the same old white supremacist monster who believes that all those people who died were not really people, they were subhuman savages who had to die because their way of life is inferior

>>2886818
most neocons dont even perform egalitarianism tho.

>>2883313
fpbp
/thread

>>2886825

of course they do, that's practically all they do is go on and on about freedom and liberty and promoting democracy and improving the lives of people in poor american cities or poor foreign nations with industrial development and jobs, just like their european colonial ancestors who claimed to be helping to civilize the indigenous peoples of the new world by displacing and enslaving and exterminating them.

>>2886732
Because Caleb relies on old school Christian antisemitic tropes about Jews being innately evil because they reject Christian Universalism or some shit. He thinks Christianity is a “higher” stage of morality than Judaism was, that Jews are “tribalist” and “primitive”, and therefore must have their Jewishness stripped from them if they are to be moral people.

>>2883447
Those chimpouts wouldn't have happened in the first place had the US not invaded, you mong.

>>2886928
some imperialism shills bring up those points but the high level people usually are talking about "US strategic interests" "they're terrorists who want to destroy Israel" "they attacked US bases (right next to their country)", etc etc. just the language of pure power politics.

>>2883601
I watched the whole video (regrettably), and it's quite telling how Caleb leaves out the most crucial aspects of Neoconservatism: the belief that ideas and values have profound political consequences, the concern with the decline of "traditional values", and dismay over the so-called moral degradation that followed the 60s New Left. There was concern about moral decline, cultural conflict, and need for political action against these perceived threats.

Neocons/Straussians have always been highly opposed to the moral relativism of the West, something which (according to them) was directly influenced by the turn towards historicism. Leo Strauss himself bemoaned the historicism of modern political thought which ditched ancient attachment to forbearance and traded objective morality for subjective. In his view, modern political philosophy (liberalism) from Machiavelli onward had abandoned the ancients' concern with virtue in favour of comfort, commerce, and procedural politics. This is precisely why Neocons approach their views from classical political philosophy such as Plato and Aristotle rather than from Christian theology like the Religious Right does. Neocons latched on to religion to enforce social order, on the basis virtue cannot be maintained by purely secular societies.

If we're talking about issues like abortion, which Maupin has implied time after time that he's against, Neocons saw it as indicative of the weakening of traditional moral standards and social institutions such as the family. Pro-lifers began to contextualize abortion as part of a greater decay of culture that involved the destruction of the family, indulgent sexuality, and secularization, all of which plays into the Neocon agenda perfectly.

You also see this with the very polarized thinking that Neocons and their Religious Right buddies hold, which Maupin clearly holds as well. Political, educational, and media institutions become battlegrounds for good vs. evil, supernatural forces influence human events, usually attributed to New Age spirituality, secularism, corrupt elites, etc.

Cultural crisis —> spiritual warfare
Moral decline —> demonic influence on society
Defence of traditional values —> conservative Christian response through activism
Conflict between competing worldviews —> cosmic battle between good and evil

One of the biggest reasons Straussian Neocons are authoritarian is because of their obsession with virtue and the demand that the state impose it on the vulgar masses of people. In this regard, Maupin and his "American Christian NazBolism" isn't much better.

>>2887087
ChatGPT-ass post


>>2886679
According to Maupin, everyone who hates Russia is a de facto neocon.

>>2883310
>WHY HAVEN'T ANY OF THEM EVER BEEN CHARGED AS WAR CRIMINALS?????
Who is supposed to charge them?

>>2887087
>”Antifa” defending an actual fascist

>>2887328
Isn't that their purpose? They're anti fascist ie pro proto fascism (liberalism)

>>2887084
Iraq was sectarian long before the U.S. invaded.

>>2887087
Maupin opposes abortion because he sees it as a tool of Malthusian population control by the ruling class. Not because of morality.

>>2887087
Interesting. Would you say most Democrats and progressives nowadays adhere to this exact same mentality? We see it with the left’s embrace of Heideggerian traditionalism and Gen Z prudishness towards sex.

>>2887087
>One of the biggest reasons Straussian Neocons are authoritarian is because of their obsession with virtue and the demand that the state impose it on the vulgar masses of people.
So cancel culture, basically.

>>2887394
I’d say a major element here is how with Trump the American right no longer has to put on the façade of morality (or intellect for that matter). So the left ends up embracing an obsession with sexual morality and virtue as a means of countering Trump and his sexual immorality.

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>>2883323
no shit retard

>>2887087
>Leo Strauss himself bemoaned the historicism of modern political thought which ditched ancient attachment to forbearance and traded objective morality for subjective. In his view, modern political philosophy (liberalism) from Machiavelli onward had abandoned the ancients' concern with virtue in favour of comfort, commerce, and procedural politics. This is precisely why Neocons approach their views from classical political philosophy such as Plato and Aristotle

Protip: tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.

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>>2887371
  1. No it wasn't
  2. The argument is tantamount to saying the US is racist so if race war was ignited by foreign actors it's ok


kys freak

>>2883321
War crimes should still be punished. There are former Nazis who are 90+ years old who still get charged with genocidal crimes.

Someone needs to send this thread to Caleb and see what he says.

>>2885810
>no different than Gaza today, or the Holocaust yesterday
Woke socialists celebrated the Abu Ghrabi rape-torture prison camp guard Graham Platner as a "committed anti-fascist", but the mods will ban you if you follow this logic to its obvious conclusion about the relationship between anti-Stalinists and the entity

>>2887087
> the most crucial aspects of Neoconservatism: the belief that ideas and values have profound political consequences, the concern with the decline of "traditional values", and dismay over the so-called moral degradation that followed the 60s New Left
Their lofty ideals and uptight morality were determined by historical materialist conditions like all of ours are. The most crucial aspects of neocons was their desperate obsession with assimilation into WASP supremacy of imperialist Tucker Carlson guys. That's why neocon libs (and their DSA socialists coworkers lol) are so mad at Tucker: he broke their pact! In the 1960s era the neocons explicitly said that women and gays and black people gaining civil rights was bad for them, as white-ish Jews or as men or closeted bourgeois gays, or whatever their privileged class position was. It was like those Jewish people who thought "fighting the KKK is bad for us". They became reactionary when faced with the prospect of actual revolutionaries, not the utopian Trotsky dogshit of "incremental progress of permanent global revolution of free markets for consumers of delicious treats". Seeing militant working class people assert of their universal rights forced them into reactionary ideology to defend their hegemony. Norman Finkelstein often brags about how he went to such a legendary school full of high status Jewish kids, and he only knew one black girl.
>This is precisely why Neocons approach their views from classical political philosophy such as Plato and Aristotle
Boomers: "Young people must read the classics!"
Young people: "The Republic is about Epstein class guys doing a late night secret cabal for anti-democracy pedophiles"

>>2887629
Very oversimplified way of putting it.

>>2887441
I don't get what you mean by this.

>>2887776
>They became reactionary when faced with the prospect of actual revolutionaries,
What "actual revolutionaries?" The 60s new left was mostly a CIA psy-op.

>>2887776
>In the 1960s era the neocons explicitly said that women and gays and black people gaining civil rights was bad for them, as white-ish Jews or as men or closeted bourgeois gays, or whatever their privileged class position was. It was like those Jewish people who thought "fighting the KKK is bad for us". They became reactionary when faced with the prospect of actual revolutionaries, not the utopian Trotsky dogshit of "incremental progress of permanent global revolution of free markets for consumers of delicious treats". Seeing militant working class people assert of their universal rights forced them into reactionary ideology to defend their hegemony.
And does this not perfectly describe Maupin's turn to the right? I've seen plenty of his livestreams where he rants endlessly about how queer people, Black intersectional feminists, abortion rights activists, etc. have "polluted" Marxism and that "true" Marxists should be concerned with upholding American patriotism and the patriarchal bourgeois family. Does he not see these exact people as threatening *his* social power, as a white, cis-het Christian male, hence his embrace of crypto-fascism, antisemitism, smearing of feminists and Black activists, etc.?

>>2887776
>about the relationship between anti-Stalinists and the entity
Stalinism has no relevance to today. The only people calling themselves "Stalinists" unironically are autistic tankie online LARPers.

>>2887763
Funny enough, he just posted this.

>>2887813
>Hannah Arendt traces back to Max Shachtman
What the fuck is he talking about?

>>2887777
NGL that was quite a good listen, anon.

>>2887835
Yes. It's brain food. Forget what the haters think and enjoy it anyway.

>>2887776
Manichaean worldview is the mentality of whiteness, idiot. Fanon literally talks about that shit in Wretched of the Earth. There’s no contradiction between what (you) and >>2887087 are saying.


>>2887087
>>2887776
Why did Lyndon LaRouche got from Trot to fash?

>>2887776
>anti-Stalinists and the entity
>t.
Also
all leftcoms are opposed to graham relative to few MLs

>>2887923
>le stalin was le israel.
tired meme pushed just like the holodomor, so called materialists ignoring every historical event to push a ideological narrative is funny.
>all leftcoms are opposed to graham
their opposition is very flimsy when they carry water for him by being tools like trotskiites.

>>2887929
>ired meme pushed just like the holodomor, so called materialists ignoring every historical event to push a ideological narrative is funny.
Google what was the first country to recognize Israel.

>>2887931
google what country send weapons to the arabs in the subsequent wars.

>>2887932
Sounds like they made a very dumb move in the first place. Sounds like their zionism got the best of them and it wasn't good realpolitik.

>>2887934
sounds like you, general hindsight, knows what a political gamble that goes wrong is like.
you need to have political power to do these things however, something that is never gonna happen so all that is left is being a judgemental catty bitch.

>>2887932
>send weapons to the arabs
*sold
That was used to kill more Arab workers than Israelis btw

>>2887776
>Young people: "The Republic is about Epstein class guys doing a late night secret cabal for anti-democracy pedophiles"

Stalin was arguably a philosopher king FYI. Lenin and Mao too.

>>2888348
Didn't Stalin fuck a teen girl?

PNAC was pure evil.

the primary architect of the iraq war was donald rumsfeld and that guy was like human teflon, a man with a totally unimpeachable character. he had the ultimate good ol' boy reputation of a fine upstanding american hero who served in the us military with distinction his entire life, he had a very disarming personality and jovial manner of speaking that made him seem like a very reasonable and decent and down-to-earth man, and he had an incredible ability to dodge questions and deflect blame and minimize catastrophes and distort reality, and he would do it with such conviction that he himself seemed to believe it. even his most vocal critics who tried to confront him about the horrific consequences and tremendous costs of the war and the non-existence of the alleged weapons of mass destruction would quickly find themselves dazzled and incapacited by his verbal gymnastics, he was a silver-tongued devil, a true psychopath, one of the finest human instruments of evil that the american nationalist military state has ever produced.

>>2888777
This reads like pasta.

>>2883323
Will any of you celebrate when Wolfowitz dies?

>>2887845
Didn't Marx have a PhD in classical Greek?

>>2887951
What are you talking about?

>>2887776
>Young people: "The Republic is about Epstein class guys doing a late night secret cabal for anti-democracy pedophiles"
Interesting how there were no Straussians in the Epstein files.

>>2888878
Which should make you question the assertion that if Epstein was a Mossad agent who was single-handedly puppeteering US foreign policy for decades how come NONE of the architects of the Iraq War appear in the files? Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, etc. aren’t mentioned in the files. GWB is but there’s no evidence he did anything dirty with Epstein. Doesn’t Mearsheimer think the Iraq War was a war for Israel? If so, how does he prove it?

>>2887813
Caleb browses leftypol and came across this thread.

>>2888878
Bill Kristol keeps wanting more of the files released, because he hates Trump that much.

>>2888897
All this means is that neocons are so evil they don’t need to be blackmailed to invade Arab countries.

>muh Straussians
Get better material.

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This is your threadly reminder that no matter how much amerislops moralize about the war to run cover for capital we WILL still abolish all existing social structures and with it your precious treats tehe :)

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>Maupin

>>2887087
>I watched the whole video (regrettably), and it's quite telling how Caleb leaves out the most crucial aspects of Neoconservatism
You racked up a lot of >> but it takes reading all the way through to eventually reach the neoconservative final boss, Daniel Bell.

>>2889517
Interesting. What does he argue?

>>2889277
She's not wrong.

>>2883310
Who the fuck in Trump’s administration is a neocon?

>>2883675
>>2884331
>>2884891
>>2885268
>>2884925
>>2887087
Neocons despise ordinary people. Leo Strauss saw himself and his students/cult followers as philosopher kings who must deceive the masses in order to preserve their power. Most neocons were former Trotskyists and Trotsky, likewise, HATED the working-class. This is largely because neoconservatism is an expression of Jewish supremacy. Jews believe they are the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" and seek to preserve their ethnocentrism and tribalism against the universal brotherhood of man brought into the world by Christ. You can't separate these things.

>>2890007
Uh most of them? Hegseth for one?

>>2889277
I follow her, and she made a post right after this one saying no one would call it a cabal if Judith Butler had former students of hers working with Mamdani. As if the two are equivalent. Strauss literally told his students to deceive people. Butler doesn’t even teach poli sci but linguistics and she’s always promoted social Justice, anti-Zionism and human liberation.

>>2890010

everybody believes they are the chosen people. every autonomous organism capable of independent thought assumes by default that it sits at the center of existence and that the universe exists outside of it and around it, that's just the nature of subjectivity. to overcome this false assumption requires a biological capacity for metacognition and a continuous exercise of mental discipline and humility that most people cannot or will not devote themselves to. everything you're saying about jews applies to every other human being who ever lived, because there are no jews, there's no such thing in physical reality as a jew, a jew is just an idea, there are only human beings and they are all pretty much the same.

>>2890015
>to deceive people.
Name a single government that doesn't lie to the people it rules over. Did the leaders of the USSR not lie?

>>2890010
How did Trotsky “hate” ordinary people, exactly?

Also I’m autistic and we naturally hate 99% of humanity.

Someone send Maupin this thread so we can get his response.

>>2887776
> Seeing militant working class people assert of their universal rights forced them into reactionary ideology to defend their hegemony.
How does this explain someone like David Horowitz, who was raised in CPUSA, worked with the Panthers, and didn't become right-wing until the late 1970s?

>>2890010
You say this, yet I believe you think the Palestinians are the people destined to redeem the world and "Palestine is the only issue that matters" or something.

>>2890010
>believing in “Christ”

>>2890620
this is maupin
>>2890010

>>2890010
Why does it matter if they are “Jews”? If the neocons were all Irish Catholics, would you still hate them? If they were Pakistani Muslims? Palestinian comprador/national bourgeoisie? Is your beef with neocons, or is your beef with “Jews”?

Also, calling Strauss a “Jewish supremacist” makes no sense at all given that he had an Ancient Greek fetish. What did Trotsky say that indicated he was a “Jewish supremacist”, given you obviously know so much on the topic?

>>2887845
This is correct. Socialists should embrace this.

>>2883323
ChatGPT users deserve public execution.

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Wait why are they all Jewish?

>>2892676
Ask Maupin.


>>2893110
Iceland tried to ban circumcision and international Jewry threatened their tourism industry until they gave up lol

>>2892676
Why does it matter?

>>2883310
> Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith are still alive. Neocons Bill Kristol, Robert Kagan and John Bolton who were the top dogs in PNAC (Project for a New American Century), which called for massive military spending and preemptive attacks
Yeah you don't get charged with war crimes just for saying shit.

>5:30
>"why are we today so obsessed with sincerity?"
Straussians never beating the allegations.

>>2893110
>>2893215
>international Jewry
Finally horseshit theory vindicated. Left & Right wings of capital unite!

>>2893110
You seem to be obsessed with Jewish genitalia. Why?

>>2893110
You think Bill Kristol underwent metzitzah b'peh as a baby?


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