Does anyone else think the whole "NVE" thing that popped up a year or so ago is a dedicated psyop? It came completely out of nowhere despute the fact that violence with obscure motives has always been a thing yet recently all the news outlets are drumming about it and acting like its an ISIS tier threat. Is someone trying to start a new satanic panic or is this a way to make political attacks look likejust mentally ill people schizoing out?
Plus they dont even know what nihilism even means.
do you mean like school shooters n shit
>>2884473
> as if COINTELPRO is something that happens to everyday Marxists and anarchists just going about their petty organizing or lives.
the FBI killed fred hampton when he was 21. it doesn't take much to piss the feds off
>>2884468
>boasted that they sent prostitutes to blackmail married cops, which is highly illegal, and immoral as fuck
projection. cops are the ones who do this in their sting operations.
We had a series of threads back in the day about Nazi Esotericism like O9A and what not having loads of weird connections to intelligence agencies, anybody have those archived?
It's the wonderful return of nihilism. There is no future, negation is the last remnant of humanity. Revolt, destroy and kill
>>2884477All the prostitues used by intelligence agencies end up being arrested because prostitution is illegal after they do the work too,the former french intelligence director straight up said it in an interview going "she was a true patriot" in the same sentence, fucked up shit
>>2884484
>look how swollen his hands are. thats a sign of weeks of IV drug use.
Lmao you really are 15
>>2884478I remember and they were very interesting. Can we bring them back?
>>2884484
>nihilism has helped us reach this stage of despotism, and the last thing humanity needs is more despotism.How? When? What do you mean by despotism? Because I suspect you quite like the current order and you just want to hunt down anyone who poses a threat to it, be it communist or not.
>>2884488Oh ok you're that obsessed cop guy, no wonder you are incapable of reading any book. But fine, let's humor ourselves
> you fucking leninist.oh snap, you called me a leninist without clarifying anything, now I surely will be expelled from the anarchonihilist kabal. All you do is point at a thing and say "that's bad and authoritarian". Incapable of original thought.
>>2884490look at pic rel, the hands of a DISGUSTING drug user
>>2884491The resentment you show toward people using drugs as a mechanism to cope with the brutality of this world completely betrays your class position and who you ultimately work for. I don't take my anarcho-nihilism flag too seriously; it is, however a collection of thought that I do admittedly align with for a large part, as vague as it is. And it is really clear you have no idea what you are talking about.
Please, tell me, what does anarchism look like to you? Or even leninism for that matter.
Anyway, any moment now before you're going to go off about dprk juche supermeth again
>>2884506
>anarchists do drugs, haha so funny! people who have no arguments often accuse their opponents of being drugged out or mentally ill
>>2884484
>look how swollen his hands are. thats a sign of weeks of IV drug use. unless he was injecting vitamins into his veins? possibly a.i, but i cant tell.
>>2884517
>Weren't the 09A guys juche too? Again, anti marxist idea so it makes perfect sense but I totally remember hearing they were obsessed with it in some chapters. I'm gonna break down those archives soon so apologies for asking.
Multiple of these kinds of groups have done that and even reached out to the dprk and in some instances made contact if I remember correctly.
>>2884468
>i believe the cops
>as an anarchist who practices NAP
hahahahaha
>>2884506
>lets talk about what anarchism is NOT. Forget about the drugs, and the meth accusations, I never claimed or made those meth conspiracy theories, you're just associating someone else's bullshit with me, simply because I'm critiquing the same milieu of miscreants.
>let's not answer and deflect by vomiting some vague platitudes about meaningless shit, also I didn't do the thing I just did ib writing!
This is why I believe you truly are a fed, no one else could be that retarded with his head that far up his ass. Fucking scum of the earth, fucking kys
>who were once principled and anti-statists, who once stood for justice and the morals of equality and no masters that "well um actually, there's a material reason for anti-imperialist states"
Like who? Again, 0 substance because you're larping. Being "a principled anti-statist" means what exactly? Instead of throwing shit you could try eating it.
>anarchist community […] in europe
European anarchist groups are filled with postmedia insurgency groups, I get that you're a fucking state sponsored retard, but come on.
I could shit on you more but it would be too redundant, it's basically a tryhard version of "that's woke so it's bad because it's woke". You can't even be barely consistent in 1 thread.
>>2884513
You pointed it out because you assume everyone has automatically a negative opinion on drug users, because you are a inhumane piece of dogshit
>>2884517
>Weren't the 09A guys juche too? Again, anti marxist idea so it makes perfect sense but I totally remember hearing they were obsessed with it in some chapters.
lmao wat? So you believe (and want everyone else to believe) something like that because you supposedly remember hearing something? Why not just say it is like that because venus is in retrograde.
>read a lot of the comments in that last video, and you'll see how serious left cults are
<these youtube comments really proof my retardism
also stop samefagging you cop
>>2884449People are suicidal, so I guess they got nothing to lose. Or they feel hopeless of achieving anything of note so they choose infamy
>>2884449Pysop to reduce the statistics of right wing terrorism.
>>2884563Modern right wing terrorism basically is "Nihilistic violent extremism" because the ones committing these mass shootings, despite labeling themselves as fagscist, neetsocs, ancraps, and whatever right-wing political ideology is contrarian at the moment, basically have no real ideology besides blaming "DUH NORMALFAGS AND JOOZ" because their entire ideology is built around resentment and aesthetic rather than anything substantial or logical.
The one thing I would agree on with OP is that the ""Nihilistic violent extremism" label basically is a psyop, but it's because it muddies and obfuscates the exact reasons why these right-wing retards from places like 4chan, Xitter, sharty etc. become mass shooters or terrorists in the first place, which are the material conditions and alienation that results from the ruling capitalist system.
I.E. things like parents being forced to worked multiple jobs and instilling a form of hyper-consumerist, individualistic culture to serve the interests of capital which means many of said right-wing retards will end up being neglected by these parents and will never be properly socialized to comfortably interact with the community or society they live in, leading to ostracization, resentment and eventually mass shootings and terrorism. And the "NVE" designation just brushes it off as a individualistic thing because "Misreable, faggot neet losers shoot up places", which they do, but it's because of the aforementioned capitalist system and it's consequences, rather than the liberal individualistic reasons LEO and intelligence agencies use to defend said capitalist system.
>>2884553idk who that guy is but he seems singularly devoted to misleading people about north korea, who are one of the biggest victims of the USA in the entire 20th century. seems really sus if you ask me.
>>2884449>nihilistic violent extremism >lacking ideology or politicsNot a thing. Everything is political. Everything is ideological. Its just a way to whitewash the fissures in American society through bourgeois ideological means. Same way as chauvanists claim to be "apolitical" while esposing how American imperialism should always remain on top and that burgerland is the trve civilized centre of the world (which is far from an apolitical nonideological standpoint). Not having an ideology is an ideology as well, but nihilism may not fall under the catagory (even if the law enforcement definition claims this), it can be and most likely will be used to just cover up any deeper questions as to why these acts of violence occur.
>is a dedicated psyop?Maybe? Just as the chauvanists (possibly backed or connected by the government) referenced above use a veneer of "apolitical" discourse to push pro-imperialist narratives. Or its just a more boring, "not all the time". Bourgeois society will avoid addressing deep structural problems so to inadvertantly reinforce this "nihilist" label, chalking it up to a grayed "people just snap sometimes lol" zone rather than delving deeper into the systemic shifts that lead to such events which can then expose political and ideological leads.
It feels disingenuous to call them nihilists considering most of them believe in right wing bullshit. They are explicitly political, the psyop is acting like this is just random violence for no reason. These people are groomed by right wingers online to do this stuff whether it be feds or some guy on discord it's the same source.
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